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Speaker 2: Here in studio.

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Speaker 1: Studio weekly x's and no's with head coach Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 3: Followed by John Hines, Coach of the Wild meanwhile joining

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Speaker 3: us now Ben Gestling, Star Tribune, Star Tribune dot Com

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Speaker 3: at Ben Gesling via x into the season finale versus

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Speaker 3: What's the what's the access Vikings off season Plan, the

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Speaker 3: very popular, sometimes controversial podcast What's the off Season Plan?

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Speaker 3: And good Morning, Good Morning. Yeah, we are. We'll keep

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Speaker 3: at it during the off season. We'll have more probably

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Speaker 3: the past. We've kind of gone on a as needed

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Speaker 3: I would assume probably at least every couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit more. Awful we're a couple times

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Speaker 3: I would think we will be probably more frequent than

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Speaker 4: This offseason. Some new new things come and mention be

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Speaker 4: kind of fun. What about the newsletter?

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Speaker 3: The newsletter will keep going as well, weekly, probably not

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Speaker 3: weekly weekly, but it'll probably be again more frequent than

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Speaker 3: it's been. I think last year is an organization short

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Speaker 1: That's now busy the off season could be let's keep

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Speaker 4: That is probably true.

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Speaker 3: There's there's generally enough going on, and the busy stretches

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Speaker 3: off season where we have plenty to talk about. I think, hey,

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Speaker 3: also can always get into the personal situation. And here's

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Speaker 3: the question, what's big with the Star Tribune not being

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Speaker 4: And some of that is the natural change in the business.

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Speaker 3: a couple of times, and he is unique in the

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Speaker 3: sense that he spent the first fIF teen years of

439
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Speaker 3: his career or whatever it was in one place, which

440
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 3: you know, you guys know well, most coaches don't do that.

441
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: Most coaches bounce around to five places in eight years

442
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: or you know, if they're lucky three and ten or

443
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Speaker 3: something like that. And he did that, and then he

444
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Speaker 3: goes from New England all that time, to Miami to

445
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh to Minnesota in the span of like five years.

446
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Speaker 3: And when your family is growing up and they're not

447
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: used to that, I think that took a toll. So yes,

448
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Speaker 3: I do think I think he's going to be picky.

449
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: I think it would take the right fit, It would

450
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Speaker 3: take the right situation probably for both him and a

451
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Speaker 3: team for it to happen. Otherwise, I know he has

452
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Speaker 3: enjoyed working here. I know he feels like, you know,

453
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Speaker 3: when you have as much say in this defense, in

454
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Speaker 3: as much leeway to be innovative, be kind of a

455
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Speaker 3: cavalier in some ways. I mean talking to players on Sunday,

456
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Speaker 3: it had that conversation with Harrison Smith and Blake Cashm

457
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Speaker 3: in the locker room. The number of guys that come

458
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Speaker 3: in to this scheme like really, we're going to do this,

459
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Speaker 3: and it takes a long time to be like, yes,

460
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Speaker 3: we are going to do this, and it can work

461
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: if you commit to it and you get all the

462
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Speaker 3: details right.

463
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Speaker 4: But no, it's not as crazy as it sounds.

464
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Speaker 3: There are not a lot of places that would just

465
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Speaker 3: be like, yeah, you know, the defense is yours to

466
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Speaker 3: craft as you wish to that degree, So I think

467
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Speaker 3: some of those things are attractive to stay here. And I,

468
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Speaker 3: like you said, I think the connections he's made in

469
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Speaker 3: this community have been something that may play a big

470
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Speaker 3: role in this as well. You know, I know he

471
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Speaker 3: wants to kind of see what the market looks like

472
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Speaker 3: and see how things shake out, but yeah, I think

473
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Speaker 3: there is a lot of appeal for him to stay

474
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Speaker 3: here as well. Nordo brought something up yesterday that I

475
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Speaker 3: hadn't been thinking about, and I thought quite a bit

476
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Speaker 3: about it since he said it. And it involves Mike

477
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Speaker 3: Tomlin and Pittsburgh. Yeah, where if the Tomlin run is over,

478
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Speaker 3: because that year has kind of Tomlin's right hand man, yep,

479
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Speaker 3: just to decompress after Miami and Stephen Raws and Brady

480
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Speaker 3: and the yacht and the lawsuits and the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that was a vital year for him.

482
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Speaker 3: Yes, And the reason this defense exists the way it

483
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: does because he met Patton Nardoozy and started picking his brain.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that story in this maybe a

486
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: year or so ago, but jeez. Because they share a

487
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Speaker 3: practice facility with pitt and Patt Nardoozy is like the

488
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Speaker 3: king of all of the hot coverages and hot zone

489
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Speaker 3: stuff where it's playing zone coverage behind all the blitzer

490
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Speaker 3: and saying we're not going to cover everything. A lot

491
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Speaker 3: of that stuff that they run now, yeah, is because

492
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Speaker 3: of that year he was in Pittsburgh. Well, the difference

493
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Speaker 3: would be so say Tomlin's board with it done. Yeah, yeah,

494
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Speaker 3: I believe the Rooney family would give Brian a big

495
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Speaker 3: chance to become the head coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But but Mike, Mike has morphed into the ultimate CEO. Yeah,

498
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Speaker 3: on the side, he's not calling a blaze. I mean

499
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Speaker 3: he's he's handling everything, with everything, And I'm not saying

500
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Speaker 3: Brian's not capable of doing that.

501
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Speaker 4: Brian and rolling in there.

502
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Speaker 3: To be the CEO, rolling in there to be the

503
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Speaker 3: play call defensive play calling head coach. I got TJ.

504
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: Watt here, got all these guys back here. Yeah, so

505
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 3: it's a different situation, but it did resonate with me

506
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Speaker 3: the way he Yeah, I mean there is I think

507
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Speaker 3: that would be a place that would make a lot

508
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Speaker 3: of sense. I know that year in Pittsburgh was something

509
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Speaker 3: he enjoyed and appreciated, and some of those connections with

510
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: the Roonies, with that organization, I think we're genuine. But

511
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: it is that question of do you want that life,

512
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: so to speak, do you want to be the guy that, hey,

513
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: the marketing folks need something, or you know, the owner

514
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Speaker 3: wants to talk on Monday about how did everything go? Hey,

515
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Speaker 3: you called this on third and eight. The analytics would

516
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 3: suggest that you probably should have gone this way. What

517
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Speaker 3: were you thinking there? I mean, do you want all

518
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Speaker 3: of that that's going to take you away from just

519
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Speaker 3: being able to do football? I remember talking to Mike

520
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: Pennon about this when Kevin O'Connell got the job, about

521
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: he needs somebody that can tell him I will take

522
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Speaker 3: care of this stuff because I've been a head coach before.

523
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: I can talk to these people and pass it along

524
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Speaker 3: and tell them what you're thinking. You need an hour

525
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: where you can just shut your door and go grind film.

526
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Speaker 3: So that is harder for head coaches to do in

527
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Speaker 3: this especially than it probably was in the past because

528
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: there is so much of a CEO component of this job.

529
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Speaker 3: So do you want that? Do you want your life

530
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: to look like that? I think is part of the

531
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Speaker 3: question everybody has to ask. It is not all Hey,

532
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: the paycheck's bigger, the spotlight's bigger. I mean, those things

533
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: are true, but there's also a lot more that goes

534
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Speaker 3: into it that I think you have to kind of

535
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Speaker 3: figure out if it's the right fit for you and

536
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Speaker 3: where you want to go in your career.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point with Tomlin too, because when he

538
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: first they had Dick Lebau there, who had been the

539
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Speaker 1: DC with Cower right, and it's very rare that a

540
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Speaker 1: coordinator would stick around. Well yeah, well respected dude with

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Speaker 1: tons of equity. Yes, I think he coached into like

542
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Speaker 1: his sixties or seventy. I think it was his seventies

543
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Speaker 1: and they used him. And I've just reading fan fodder

544
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Speaker 1: in various things, just rube like of me. But a

545
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of people attribute kind of some problems with that

546
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Speaker 1: def like losing that stone cold locked defensive coordinator despite

547
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Speaker 1: Tomlin's great defensive mind, creating issues, you know, post Lebau

548
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Speaker 1: finding the next answer, the.

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Speaker 3: Face of the franchise part, that's big. Yeah, I mean

550
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: think about O'Connell. Okay, mondays, let's say twelve thirty press

551
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: conference Tuesday, X's and O's contractually obligated or not Wednesday,

552
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Speaker 3: into the next game press conference Thursday, maybe some national stuff,

553
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: some McAfee stuff like that, maybe Friday post practice press

554
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: conference into the weekend Saturdays. Say we go on the road,

555
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: we do a lot of our granted, this whole thing's

556
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: ten minutes, but pregame tape and production meetings with TV

557
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: networks that can last a half hour, then game press

558
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Speaker 3: conference after game, A family, by the way, get ready

559
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Speaker 3: for the next way.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yep, that's a lot now that we think about it.

561
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Speaker 3: All right, we're going to fade to black on this

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Speaker 3: segment and when we return more with the scribe on KFAM.

563
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Speaker 3: I am dozed off at halftime of that Monday night

564
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: football game last night, Kirk Oat Chains in Atlanta absolutely

565
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: throttling the Rams. Rams came back, made it an interesting game.

566
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: Atlanta won the game in totality. How did Cousins end

567
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: up looking and if he did something like egregious and

568
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: I have looked at the box score or anything, apologies,

569
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Speaker 3: but i've you look pretty good.

570
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Speaker 4: You look fine. I mean, I don't think he made

571
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Speaker 4: any big mistakes.

572
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Speaker 3: And Bejon Robinson was kind of carrying that the whole operation,

573
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Speaker 3: I mean kind of drove that bus reality fantasy.

574
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Speaker 4: He was both and me to fantasy titles.

575
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Speaker 3: It sounds like great covering to colap for winning a

576
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Speaker 3: fantasy way.

577
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Speaker 4: Those things ain't easy, No, they're not.

578
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Speaker 3: So I wonder I wonder if in any way like

579
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Speaker 3: that impacts the Rams into the postseason. I mean, I

580
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: know that they couldn't get the one seed, but it.

581
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Speaker 2: Was five or six seed is what they they're vye.

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Speaker 3: For, right, No, DeVante Adams. They had a couple of

583
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Speaker 3: offensive linemen down. I mean, that just feels like a

584
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: pushbutton operation. Right yet Adams back at those two offensive

585
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: linemen back make one big run. Would you would you

586
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: pick them to go to the Super Bowl? From the NFC?

587
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: I like them a lot because of the coach and

588
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: the quarterback. I mean, they have a better combination of that,

589
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: and obviously those things make a big difference in the playoffs.

590
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: They have a coach that's won it, they have a

591
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Speaker 3: quarterback that's on it, and yeah, if you get DeVante

592
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: Adams back, it makes a big difference. But yeah, I

593
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 3: like them as much as anybody the NFC. It's harder

594
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: when you have to go on the road, but it's

595
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of teams in their division they're.

596
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Speaker 4: Gonna have to beat.

597
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Speaker 3: If it's the Seahawks that have the one seed, and uh,

598
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: obviously the forty nine ers are part of that too,

599
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Speaker 3: So I think even if they have to go on

600
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Speaker 3: the road, I mean they heck that. I think they

601
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: did it the year they won it with O'Connell's offense. Now,

602
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: I think they had to play through the first.

603
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: Round of that.

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Speaker 3: So they won at Tampa Bay, Yes, in a game

605
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: they had no business winning, right with the Cooper Cup

606
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: bong catch and run.

607
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Speaker 4: Oh that's right.

608
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Antoine Winfield Junior maybe got lost a little bit,

609
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: was kind of in the clutch that game. They beat

610
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Speaker 1: Kyler at home, Yeah, wild card, and then they went

611
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Speaker 1: to Tampa.

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Speaker 4: They're like a three or four seed or something something

613
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Speaker 4: like that.

614
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Speaker 3: So no, I then they played the Niners at so

615
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: far right, I think they had not beat the Niners

616
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: and they did get to host the Niners. Yeah, and

617
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: the Niners, I mean they had more fans than the

618
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: Rams than that NFC title game. Yeah, they did all right,

619
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: to the to the local team to finish. Will Harrison

620
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: Smith playing next year? My thought most of the year

621
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Speaker 3: has been no, right, I've thought that he was going

622
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 3: to be done, but he is. The last two years

623
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing he was. I remember talking

624
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: to him in the locker room in Detroit at the

625
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: end of twenty three and thought, boy, I have not

626
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: seen and I've covered his first year was my first

627
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: year on the beat. I realized this this week, with

628
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: my fourteenth year covering him, I've covered him more longer

629
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Speaker 3: than any athlete in my career.

630
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Speaker 4: Wow, probably won't cover anybody as long as him.

631
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Speaker 3: The idea that I'm going to cover somebody else for

632
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: fourteen years is probably fairly unlikely.

633
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: So same here.

634
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Speaker 3: He's probably the athlete I will have covered the longest

635
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: of any stretch of my career the last two years.

636
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: So I say that to say, as long as I've

637
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: covered him and have a pretty good feel for him,

638
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: I think. But to have a feel for him is

639
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: also to know that he's unpredictable. And I remember him

640
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: crying in the Detroit locker room thing, boy, this is

641
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: not something I've seen them before. I think he's done,

642
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: and then he comes back and that was the famous

643
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: send Chris Thomas in the Prince picture year and look

644
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: it off if you don't know it. It's the greatest

645
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: thing ever, the greatest Twitter exchange ever. Then the next

646
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: year I thought he was done. I remember texting him

647
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: and he writes back, I wish I had a Prince

648
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: photo to send you. He should have filmed this short.

649
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: It is like, does that mean you're back. Yeah, it

650
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: means I'm back. So the last couple of years he

651
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: has surprised me in that sense. I think even you know,

652
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: the last week, I thought this is probably the Swan song.

653
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on how he's feeling, how his

654
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Speaker 3: family feels about things. But he could still play. I mean,

655
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Speaker 3: I if there's no a little I agree with that.

656
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: I think it's going to have to be Flores here

657
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: for him to think about it. But I could see

658
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: him going, you know what I feel? All right, I

659
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 3: think I could still play. They still want me, what

660
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: the heck, let's do one more. It would not shock

661
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: be because he is one of these players I think

662
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: that has heard this from other players that went beforehand,

663
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: that play as long as you can because once you leave,

664
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: it's done, it's over and you have the rest of

665
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: your life. So there are players that will say, as

666
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: long as you can be on the ride with teammates, Yeah,

667
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: you got to grind through the season with the highs

668
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: of winning games like they did on Christmas Day. You

669
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: don't get that back. So I wouldn't be shocked. I

670
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: guess I think I'm more open to the possibility that

671
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: would happen It's obviously not my decision, but I would

672
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: be less surprised by it, let's put it that way

673
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: than I would have been maybe a couple of weeks ago.

674
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: And he played into this finale, then are we just on?

675
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: We're on McCarthy watch all week?

676
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: Right?

677
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: Just is he gonna play? And what's up with the

678
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: hand grip strength? It's really coming down to his ability

679
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: to physically grip the flat all kind of the a

680
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: topic with the position as.

681
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, that'll probably take the week and it'll probably

682
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: take a while for us to know who the starter

683
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: is going to be. But yes, they want him to

684
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: play if he can Border battle subter refusions, well it

685
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: could be that too, I suppose, But yes, there's well

686
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: the packers probably gonna sit on the starters, so probably

687
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: not going to be the most climactic border battle ever.

688
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: But yes, I think they want to see him.

689
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: They want to get one more for him, as Kevin

690
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: O'Connell said yesterday, And I think it will depend on

691
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: the grip strength. Do you expect Javon Hargrave and Jonathan

692
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: Allen both to be back with the team next year?

693
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: I do not.

694
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 3: I think they have salary cap questions that are fairly big,

695
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: and Javon Hargrave especially, they'd save a lot of money

696
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: if they were to release him.

697
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: I would think that.

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00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean the money they save for Allen is not

699
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 3: that much because of how the dead money works out.

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00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: So I would think Allen has a better chance to

701
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: be back than Hargrave.

702
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 4: I don't think they're both here.

703
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: Hargrave would be the name I'd kind of have an

704
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: eye on in terms of a possible cut. Lastly, here

705
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: do you think they drafted Ty Felton as Jalen Naylor

706
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: replacement insurance? I mean Felton has three catches?

707
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? Year?

708
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: Now if you I mean they came into the season

709
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: clearly thinking Jefferson, Addison, Naylor, Yeah, Hawkinson, Aaron Jones yep.

710
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: So you can draft somebody third round and not, you know,

711
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: immediately get them up to speed as the replacement. That's

712
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: why you have the next offseason. But do you see

713
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: it that way that they took Felton thinking wow, from

714
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: a cap standpoint, we may not be able to sign

715
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: Jalen Naylor. Well, I think there's probably some of that

716
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: because you spend all the money in March and then

717
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: you go into the draft in April knowing that you're

718
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: may not going to have the room to sign Jalen Naylor,

719
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: especially if he has a good year, which he has.

720
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: I think the way they're probably looking at it now

721
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: is there's a good chance Jalen Naylor gets paid by

722
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: somebody and they can't afford to keep him. So whether

723
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: or not they drafted him for that reason, you know,

724
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: I think some of it was they wanted the catch

725
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: and run guy too. That was gonna be run Dale Moore,

726
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: and I think Felton has some of that to him,

727
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: So I think there was some of a let's get

728
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: another flavor in this in this wide receiver group to

729
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: an extent. But yeah, I think think it will turn

730
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: out that way. I think Felton and I know they've

731
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: felt good about some of the things he's done in

732
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: practices and kind of behind the scenes. I think the

733
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: hope would be that he does kind of turn into

734
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: that because I think it may work out that way.

735
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: Did I miss the All Vikings All Time piece? Was

736
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: that Christmas Day?

737
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 4: Yes?

738
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, man, so you can go online and see

739
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: it correct. Yeah, So they did some cool design. They

740
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: basically like anybody they picked on the team, it's like

741
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: a tops trading car when you can put the back

742
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: and get the stats. And so the design was pretty cool.

743
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. I'll start Tribune dot Com all right, man.

744
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll see you next week at ten o'clock at KFAM.

745
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: After that, you know how it goes. Man, we're low

746
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: key here. You need time away from radio, You just

747
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: want time to decompress from everything. Just let us know. Yeah,

748
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: but we love having you each and every Tuesday.

749
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: I love doing it. We'll keep it rolling. Thanks guys.

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00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: It's been gasline Tuesdays. Here Friday with a burrero courtesy

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00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: of Standard Heating and Air. Kevin O'Connell, head coach of

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00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, fifteen minutes from now to the league.

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00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: If you want to spot up a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit on some teleracing Minnesota Wild, we're gonna get

767
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: to hear from the head coach already chatted with Pat

768
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: mcletty during the first hour. They are at the Sharks

769
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: for a mid afternoon affair tomorrow three o'clock puck drop.

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00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna get to hear that here, I believe, on

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00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: your home for a Wild Hockey the Fan. But last night,

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Speaker 1: I mean you want to talk about four points between

773
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: the Marcus Johansson, Jule Ericson Eck and Matt boldieline it

774
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: was a beauty five to two, just a beat down,

775
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: dominating effort over the golden nights the Wild there and

776
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: it's still it's we're just past Christmas here, but the

777
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: Wild third place in the central. You're starting to see

778
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: this top three separation between what the Wild Stars and

779
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: Abs are doing. Abs still completely untouchable and the rest

780
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: of what is starting to appear to be a very

781
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: mediocre in midd Lane NHL Central Division. So that's some

782
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: to watch, very excited something to watch and listen to.

783
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Wild at the Sharks tomorrow. Head coach John Hines is

784
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: going to join us around eleven thirty.

785
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: And then last night the Minnesota Timberwolves also in action.

786
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: You would have gotten to hear that on your home

787
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: for Wolves Basketball the fan right after the Slovakia team

788
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: USA affair. I believe the Americans won six' five in that,

789
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Speaker 1: one and The.

790
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: Bulls at The.

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00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: BULLS i was really pumped last, Night pa to See

792
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: Kobe white and YOUR lfl trained and. Raised you brought

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Speaker 1: me into, This you've guided me along THIS lfl.

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Speaker 3: Journey whoeverre your fond just five? Minutes are you kidding?

795
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Speaker 3: Me With Kobe white last? Night CALVE i tuned, in

796
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Speaker 3: he heard his. Calf, yeah he played six minutes in the.

797
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: Game but the STORY nas read thirty some points and

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Speaker 1: maybe a sub story that's.

799
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Speaker 4: Really cool as part of.

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Speaker 1: THAT i think it was fourteen dimes From Julius randall

801
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: last night as. Well So wolves bouncing back from the

802
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: Bad nets game prior to, that and they are at

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Speaker 1: The hawks also an afternoon affair, Tomorrow New Year's, eve two.

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Speaker 2: Pm tip.

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00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: Offs to get THOSE lfl lineups started is set, early

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Speaker 1: ladies and.

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00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: Gentlemen Nikhil Alexander, walker we get to see naw he

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00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: at six three pinners last. Night he's he's had an awesome.

809
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: Season yeah for The Atlanta hawks that that's a really

810
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: toothless defensive. Team Jalen johnson's one of the real underrated

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Speaker 3: stars in THE. Nba wise he underrated because he plays

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 3: for The hawks and The hawks ain't very good these. Days,

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00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: well last night from an injury standpoint for The Chicago.

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00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: Bulls if you are a hard Hardcore chimberwolves fan and

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Speaker 3: you are looking for a serviceable point guard to give

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00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: you maybe eighteen to twenty seven minutes a, game and

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Speaker 3: you want to pick On chicago because.

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Speaker 4: Du, somo, however you, say, YEAH i have no.

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Speaker 3: Idea Trey, Jones Apple, Valley Josh, giddy And Kobe. White,

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Speaker 3: okay they have four there who can play the. Point

821
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Speaker 3: white went down with a calf last night And Josh

822
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Speaker 3: giddy heard his hamstring AND i don't think it's, good

823
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: so they all of a. Sudden Kevin, herder by the,

824
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Speaker 3: way is a. Tweener he plays point and, two so

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Speaker 3: they have a bebby of ball handlers who can play

826
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Speaker 3: one or. Two but they lost their best to last. Night,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i don't know if so that you, know if

828
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Speaker 3: you're looking to pill for that, team for any kind

829
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Speaker 3: of a point. Guard it got a little dicey last.

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Speaker 3: Night TIMBERWOLVES i thought were well below average fair amount

831
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Speaker 3: of the first. Half Then Anthony edwards got pissed. Off

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Speaker 3: they put the pedal to the. MEDAL i swear they

833
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: outscored this team like one hundred and ten to fifty

834
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Speaker 3: eight from one point of the second quarter all the

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Speaker 3: way through the end of the. Game it was an

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00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: impressive display once they started, Rolling so we know they

837
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Speaker 3: have it in, them and that was. Cool The wild

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Speaker 3: thorough domination The, pacific The Western division whatever it's. Called, Pacific,

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Speaker 3: yeah wants nothing to do with The Minnesota. WILD i

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00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: think the teams like ten oh one one or ten

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Speaker 3: ten one and two or something against The west against The,

842
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Speaker 3: pacific and now they play a different brand of hockey out.

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00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: There but The wild were up five zero before the

844
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Speaker 3: midway point of the.

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Speaker 4: Game, YEP i mean it was just utter butt whooping last.

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Speaker 2: Night, no it was a beautiful. Thing it was not

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Speaker 2: a butt.

848
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Whooping but The, falcons dude the, minutes there's actually an

849
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: interesting bit here where, apparently and they said this on the.

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Speaker 1: BROADCAST i wasn't, aware SO i Thought Panthers bucks was

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Speaker 1: just winning in but, it, TECHNICALLY.

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Speaker 4: I, guess is.

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Speaker 1: Not.

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00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: So The falcons.

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00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: Beat The rams last night twenty seven to twenty, four

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00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: And stafford threw a few. Picks still should be favored

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00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: to BE, mvp but we'll. See drake may right on his.

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00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: Heels cousins thirteen to Twenty buck twenty six didn't have

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Speaker 1: to do much Because bijeon had two hundred and twenty

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00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: nine total yards and a couple, scores and.

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Speaker 2: We had a block punt for.

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Speaker 1: It it was actually or a block kick for A

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Speaker 1: td From Jared. Verse it was a really entertaining. Game

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Speaker 1: falcons get out seven and. Nine, well apparently according to

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Speaker 1: the broadcast last, night The falcons if they are to

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Speaker 1: beat The saints On, sunday and that's probably one of the,

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Speaker 1: nooners and then of Course bucks And carolina are Playing

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Speaker 1: saturday after.

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Speaker 2: NOON i think If.

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Speaker 1: Carolina loses to The, bucks so The bucks are Celebrating saturday.

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Speaker 4: Night, yeah we won the.

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Speaker 1: Division, actually, no, really if The falcons beat The saints

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Speaker 1: On sunday because of a three win, tie three team,

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Speaker 1: tie there's some sort of tie breaker that still pushes

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Speaker 1: The panthers into the.

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Speaker 2: Postseason so even if.

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Speaker 4: The atlanta cannot win the, division no they.

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Speaker 1: Cannot, yeah that's all, Right so they're, eliminated but they

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Speaker 1: can play spoiler to The. Bucks if The bucks win

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Speaker 1: against The panthers and The falcons finish eight to nine

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Speaker 1: with a win over The, saints The, panthers regardless of

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Speaker 1: that loss On, saturday would still go into the.

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Speaker 3: Postseason so we are On kevin O'Connell Watch. Minutia, yeah that's.

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Speaker 3: Nice we have a couple of head coaches going back to.

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Speaker 3: Back First kevin, O'Connell the head coach of The Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: vikings about five six minutes from, now followed By John,

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Speaker 3: hines coach of The Minnesota wild calling us from The

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Speaker 3: west coast about eleven thirty eleven thirty. Five you're listening

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Speaker 3: to nine to noon AT fn one hundred point THREE

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Speaker 3: kfam