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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Budweiser Reds Hot Stove League presented by

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Speaker 1: UDF and for the first time this spring, we are

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Speaker 1: coming to you from Goodyear Arizona. We're both coming to

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Speaker 1: you from Goodyear Arizona with Jim Day. I'm Tommy Thrall.

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Speaker 1: It was a split squad last week and now here

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Speaker 1: we are both reporting for camp on time. We passed

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Speaker 1: our physicals and now it's go time. I barely passed

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Speaker 1: by the way getting up in age to getting a

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Speaker 1: little brittle. But this is one of my favorite times

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Speaker 1: of the year. There's nothing more therapeutic than hearing the

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Speaker 1: snap of the ball hitting a glove or the batcrack.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful thing. And I do think that this team

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Speaker 2: is in a good position right now. It's been a

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Speaker 1: They're in a good position for a lot of reasons,

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Speaker 1: and we can get into that as we go along.

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Speaker 1: But one of the guys that I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: part of the news this week, that just is another

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Speaker 1: piece for this organization. Now where he fits in, I'm

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Speaker 1: not entirely sure, but the Reds went out and were

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Speaker 1: able to bring in a guy like Nathaniel Low this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that has had success at the major

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Speaker 1: I really like this acquisition, and now the question is

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Speaker 1: how does he fit in. But that's what the next

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Speaker 1: six weeks are to figure out.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're always looking for depth, and if it's quality

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Speaker 2: you're really in business. Not only does he have pop

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Speaker 2: Now this is just batting practice, folks, but there's different

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you the ball rockets off of

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Speaker 2: He was consistently hitting balls into the screen in right field,

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Speaker 2: A few years ago hit twenty seven home runs. That

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Speaker 2: was a career high for him. In twenty two he's

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Speaker 2: We've seen pictures throw to hitters already pretty much everybody

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Speaker 1: Not gone wood. But you go back to last year,

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Speaker 1: guys came in banged up. Matt McClain, for instance, was

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Speaker 1: coming off the surgery, spencer here still wasn't back to

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Speaker 1: Rhet Lauder who was a slow start and never did

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Speaker 2: Gabbitt got a slow start a little bit to spring

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Speaker 1: So right now, this team from an injury standpoint, is

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Speaker 2: And not only that, but you've got I mean, there

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Speaker 2: And we've talked about Tony Santion. He had to pitch

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Speaker 1: Speaking of its time, it's time that he finally joined

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Speaker 1: us on this show. Who are you talking about? That

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Speaker 1: would be Red's general manager, Brad and Better. Brad, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for being on with us. Always love talking

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the thirty thousand view of camp so far.

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Speaker 1: We talked about everybody kind of being healthy to this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great to be here. You know, every year

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Speaker 4: It's always a fun time to start over and to

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Speaker 5: So that's a good start. You know.

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Speaker 4: Edie and I were talking this morning and we were

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Speaker 4: back to when we left LA last year. You know,

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Speaker 4: there it was the start of something bigger and guys

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Speaker 2: When you look at this pitching staff, boy, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: When you've got guys like Burns and Louder Williamson batting for.

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Speaker 2: How nice is that going into a season? And that

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Speaker 5: And it's by design.

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Speaker 4: You know, we go into the off season feeling really

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, we're gonna need all

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Speaker 1: Run prevention sometimes is just as important as run production,

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like the defense is improving there as

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Speaker 4: Well, that was one of the things that we went

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Speaker 4: And so that was a priority going into the offseason.

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Speaker 4: We feel like we've done a pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Job one of those one of the defense of parts

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Speaker 2: last year that was positive with Spencer Steer was a

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Speaker 3: He shed some pounds in your eyes. How does he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Gino and Sal have both been over at first

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Speaker 5: So that's an encouraging sign.

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Speaker 1: Radio Network. Welcome back into the Budweiser Reds Hot Stove

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Speaker 1: League presented by UDF. We are in goodyear Arizona talking

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Speaker 1: Reds base Bath Red general manager Bradmeta and Brad We've

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Speaker 1: been talking about pitching and defense, and now I think

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Speaker 1: for the first time, it feels like in a while,

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of things might be a little more

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Speaker 1: I think people think I'm crazy when I say that

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Speaker 1: a nice bounce back year. I think the way Spencer

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Speaker 1: I always felt like this offense was probably better than

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we also feel like they're going to

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Speaker 4: The biggest reason for that is that they have more

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Speaker 4: the step of making the playoffs last year was a

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Speaker 4: big part of Okay, What's next? Like we talked about,

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Speaker 4: when you put Geno in the middle of a lineup

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Speaker 4: And you've heard Tito talk about how often he moved

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Speaker 4: Well, he's here to make the team. I mean that's

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Speaker 5: So we'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that's that's noticeable in camp this year.

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Speaker 1: That's the key, without being reckless, And I think that

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Speaker 1: Well that's been Brad Meta, Red's general manager. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for being all this really appreciated. Always love talking

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Speaker 1: thanks for finally joining.

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Speaker 5: No, thanks, I'll see you guys next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his legs are in shade because he's been duck

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Brad, then he sprints. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Brad Metter kind enough to join us. We've got more

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Budweiser Red Hot Stove League presented

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Speaker 1: by UDF. We were talking with Brad Mehtter moments ago.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to talk with Brandon Williamson. First of all, Brandon,

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Speaker 1: great to see you back on the mound. Great to

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Thank you. I feel great. You know, I've had.

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Speaker 7: A long time, almost eighteen months, to have just cheerly

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Speaker 2: Talking to people that have been around you throwing, and

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Speaker 3: Correct with him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I actually feel better than I ever have. I

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Speaker 7: feel like, prior to my arm kind of going down

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Speaker 7: a little bit of a spiral that I could I

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Speaker 7: could really attack the baseball and I felt like I

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Speaker 7: was on offense pitching. That's how I would describe the

445
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Speaker 7: old Brandon was just I was just always on offense,

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Speaker 7: and you know, I could just rip balls as hard

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Speaker 7: as I could and hope that they just swinging thisss,

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Speaker 7: and most time I did because it was just you know,

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Speaker 7: lower levels.

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Speaker 6: And then I had I got.

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Speaker 7: To a point where I had to figure out how

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Speaker 7: to kind of mesh that with kind of like a

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Speaker 7: DJ philosophy, I would say, where you got to know

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Speaker 7: how to pitch, and you got to know how to

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Speaker 7: set up off speed, set up fastballs. And that was

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Speaker 7: a really hard transition for me, but it was it

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Speaker 7: was a great one in the long run because now

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Speaker 7: that I have my arm back, I feel like I

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Speaker 7: know all that stuff through kind of fire. I'll say, so, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I would. I would say I feel better than I

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Speaker 7: ever have.

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Speaker 3: We'll take it. That's encouraging for sure.

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Speaker 1: You talk about coming back from injuries and Tommy John,

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Speaker 1: did it take you a while? I always like to

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Speaker 1: ask this question because to me, it feels like the

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Speaker 1: biggest hurdle coming back from surgery like that is trusting

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Speaker 1: your arm Again. Did it take you a while or

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Speaker 1: reable to slow play it so that that wasn't as

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Speaker 1: big of a hurdle you had to clear?

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Speaker 7: Nope, I was on go, and to my detriment, I'm

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Speaker 7: on go. Admittedly, like I need someone to say you're

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Speaker 7: doing you're doing too much, or you're doing a lot.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to do all this to get what

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Speaker 7: you want out of it. I would say that's probably

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Speaker 7: a product of just like the way I came up

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Speaker 7: in the game was I kind of had to do

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Speaker 7: that stuff. I was a junior college guy, and you

478
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Speaker 7: only have a certain amount of time to show that

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Speaker 7: you're good enough to you know, take the next step

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Speaker 7: to Division one or pros or whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: So I feel like that's.

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Speaker 7: Still kind of in me where I'm just like, I

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Speaker 7: know what I need to do, and I want.

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Speaker 6: To do it right now.

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Speaker 7: And through the rehab process, I had to learn kind

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Speaker 7: of not necessarily hit the brakes, but you can lay

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Speaker 7: off the gas a little bit. I came out my

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Speaker 7: first bullpen after not throwing for close to a year,

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Speaker 7: but my first couple of heaters were ninety two and

490
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Speaker 7: they were like, it looks amazing, but you got to stop,

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Speaker 7: and you know, I actually did too much in my

492
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Speaker 7: elbow tightened up again and I had to stop, and

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Speaker 7: it set me back a little bit. And that was

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Speaker 7: things that before I learned in spring training. Now I

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Speaker 7: got to learn it in a way more controlled environment

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Speaker 7: where the timing wasn't as critical. So that was a big,

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Speaker 7: big lesson I felt like I got to learn because

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Speaker 7: of rehab.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of timing, you never want to have Tommy John surgery. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: it just stinks whenever it happens. But I've seen so

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Speaker 2: many guys that are still working their way back at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of spring training, or maybe he's going to

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Speaker 2: be ready mid season. The timing of yours seems to

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Speaker 2: be working out pretty well at your full go at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of camp, and that doesn't always happen with

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Speaker 2: Tommy John surgery.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I was actually talking to Eric Gonzalez, our rehab coordinator,

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Speaker 7: today on the table, and while I was getting stretched out,

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Speaker 7: I was like, I can't believe guys come back and

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Speaker 7: do this at twelve months. Yeah, ten months or thirteen months,

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Speaker 7: whatever it is. It's honestly unbelievable because the way I

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Speaker 7: felt at thirteen months was healthy and I was capable

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Speaker 7: to go throw. But even at eighteen months now, I'm

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Speaker 7: still like trying to pull pieces together, yeah, and still

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Speaker 7: figure a lot of things out that I had the

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Speaker 7: best timing ever, Like, like you said, I got to

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Speaker 7: go blue out in September, had the surgery early October.

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Speaker 7: There was no coming back in twenty five, so it

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Speaker 7: was an instant eighteen months recovery process.

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Speaker 6: And we knew that.

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Speaker 7: Yep, most guys don't. I mean they're at twelve months

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Speaker 7: and they're in games. Thirteen months, they're pitching again, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's I got an extra six months and it's still hard. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: So it's just unbelievable that they do it at twelve months.

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Speaker 1: We're visiting with Brandon Williams sitting This conversation continues Next,

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Speaker 1: it's the Budweiser reds Hot Stove Leak presented by UDF

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Speaker 1: on the Reds Radio Network. Welcome back into the Budweiser

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Speaker 1: reds Hot Stove leagu present to buy you DF and

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Speaker 1: we continue our conversation now with Brandon Williamson. And Brandon,

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Speaker 1: you were talking about the things you learned while you

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Speaker 1: were coming back from from surgery. What were some of

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Speaker 1: those things? What what do you think you gained from

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Speaker 1: your time during your rehab that will make you a

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Speaker 1: better picture.

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Speaker 7: Physicality the biggest thing I feel like, you know, not

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Speaker 7: that I was just scrawny, but I was definitely tall, skinny, slender.

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Speaker 6: I felt like I realized.

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Speaker 7: That it takes literally literally physically being stronger, your muscles,

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Speaker 7: being bigger, healthier, That makes them more enduring, That makes

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Speaker 7: you not get your shoulder sore in July and then

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Speaker 7: it causes you to blow your elbow out in August.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's just like that's the type of things that I

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Speaker 7: felt like I learned and I kind of stole from

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Speaker 7: other players seeing them where I was like, what do

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Speaker 7: they do? Why are they healthy. My favorite mantra success

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Speaker 7: leaves clues. So like I'm constantly watching trying to understand

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Speaker 7: what makes certain guys good. Why, why does this guy

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Speaker 7: get hurt? Why did this guy not? Why does this

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Speaker 7: guy throw ninety eight and this guy throws ninety two?

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Speaker 6: That type of stuff.

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Speaker 7: So in the rehab was just building physicality, building shoulder endurance,

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Speaker 7: shoulder strength, you know, even my legs, my rotation. Just

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Speaker 7: surely I feel like I can physically play offense.

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Speaker 6: You know, if that was my goal, which.

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Speaker 7: I knew I wanted to be able to do again,

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Speaker 7: I had to physically be able to do it.

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Speaker 3: Success leaves clues. I love that. That's great. Where did

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Speaker 3: you come up with that? Or did you do that?

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Speaker 7: Guy in my junior college, he was the hitting coach

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Speaker 7: and that was like his like Twitter handle, and that

563
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Speaker 7: was like the first thing I ever caught on. Was like, man,

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Speaker 7: that's genius. Like I don't even have to know how

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Speaker 7: to do this, I just have to look at other people.

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Speaker 7: They they're giving me the answers to the test. So

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Speaker 7: I've used that for years.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were communications majors, so we were always looking

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Speaker 2: for people to give his answers.

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Speaker 3: To those hard Matt questions, etc. That's a whole different concept.

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Speaker 3: I know, pretty crowded rotation.

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Speaker 2: That's a good problem for the organization to have battle

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Speaker 2: for that fifth spot. And I know your goal obviously

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Speaker 2: to make the rotation, But how do you what's your

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Speaker 2: mindset knowing that you're in a pretty steep competition with

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Speaker 2: some guys that are very, very talented.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll add on that too.

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Speaker 7: I think Chase Burns and Red Louder are two of

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Speaker 7: the best competition for a fifth spot. I think I

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Speaker 7: could imagine having you know, and I think all three

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Speaker 7: of us for the most part, you could drop us

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Speaker 7: into most rotations and we'd probably be comfortably in. Obviously

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Speaker 7: still got to play well. I think it's a blessing

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Speaker 7: for the Reds in that the guy that they get,

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Speaker 7: whoever wins that is going to be ready more than

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Speaker 7: maybe anybody to pitch opening day. Not saying we're going

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Speaker 7: to pitch over the day, but we'll be right opening

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Speaker 7: day because right now, Rat, Chase and I are in

589
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Speaker 7: we're in July baseball in February. We're trying, we're playing

590
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Speaker 7: for something like this is high stakes. We're not just

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Speaker 7: it's not just how you made the team great. Like

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Speaker 7: these are high, high stakes, and all three of us,

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Speaker 7: I would say, understand the stakes that are at play,

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Speaker 7: and we're taking it very seriously. We all are hungry

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Speaker 7: for it. And the competition is just it. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's elite, it really is. It's just a good battle

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Speaker 7: for a position.

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Speaker 1: At the time of this taping you through today. So

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Speaker 1: with that you face hitters. What did you get out

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Speaker 1: of that experience getting the live feedback from hitters.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my first two went pretty smooth and today was

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Speaker 7: more of a challenge, which is good.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 7: I feel like there's gonna be plenty of games where

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Speaker 7: I throw in the first few innings are not what

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Speaker 7: you want. And when you can show that that can

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Speaker 7: happen and you can still, you know, give the team

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Speaker 7: a chance to win, that's very important. So being able

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Speaker 7: to recognize that and understand that it's okay to have

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Speaker 7: those those those innings and those pitches not necessarily those outings.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'll say, if you go through an inning

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Speaker 7: and you're getting whacked, and then you come out to

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Speaker 7: the next inning, it's a little less and the next

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Speaker 7: thing is a little less and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: you've thrown five six innings and it's you know, two

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Speaker 7: or three instead of four or five, and you got

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Speaker 7: pulled in the fourth. You know, that's valuable. And that's

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Speaker 7: kind of the feeling that I took from today was

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Speaker 7: I remember being in games where I couldn't lay my

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Speaker 7: changeup or I couldn't spin my curve ball, and I

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Speaker 7: had to rely on my cutter, and I had to

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Speaker 7: rely on you know, perfectly placed fastball because they're just

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Speaker 7: all over it. And then remembering like there's certain things

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Speaker 7: that you can do in game, and you can recognize

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Speaker 7: if I just do this one little thing right now,

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Speaker 7: I know that I e land to change up or

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Speaker 7: land a curveball doesn't have to be good. That I

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Speaker 7: can then get back into this game and I might

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Speaker 7: not have my best stuff, but I'll be able to

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Speaker 7: at least compete and manage through you know, five or

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Speaker 7: six inns.

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Speaker 2: Where's your control at right now? Because you say the

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Speaker 2: arm is stronger, the velocity's back, got bigger loop on

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Speaker 2: the breaking balls, but at times it's tough to hone

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Speaker 2: that in yeah, and throw it exactly where you want

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Speaker 2: to throw it.

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Speaker 3: Where are you right now with command.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like my fastball is just leaking a

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Speaker 7: little high, and that's kind of forcing me to be

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Speaker 7: a little more fine with my cutter, I'll say. And

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Speaker 7: if I can find the feeling again, like I was

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Speaker 7: saying kind of on the way up here, with just

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Speaker 7: that split more second of feel on the ball and

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Speaker 7: you know, driving heaters more, I feel like I'll be

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Speaker 7: pretty much where I want to be because my arm

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Speaker 7: speed's there, the stuff is moving how I want, and

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Speaker 7: the ball is ever so close to just a tick

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Speaker 7: longer of being able to feel that change up in

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Speaker 7: the zone versus it in the dirt, or that fastball

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Speaker 7: that's in the zone versus it just ends up.

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Speaker 1: Right when you talk about that and what you were

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Speaker 1: discussing before, where you're trying to find a pitch that

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Speaker 1: maybe you didn't have in a particular inning, there's an

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Speaker 1: old saying stay stubborn with your stuff, right. How do

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Speaker 1: you do that in game, trying to make an adjustment

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Speaker 1: while at the same time not getting beat, not letting

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Speaker 1: that hurt you while you still try to figure it out.

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Speaker 6: That's a great question. You've done this before.

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Speaker 3: Had he just left the clue?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: That's a good question.

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Speaker 7: So in game, I feel like I've had you have

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Speaker 7: moments of Okay, I might be overthrowing this or I

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Speaker 7: might be trying to make it too nasty and it's

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Speaker 7: not landing, and then you think, okay, well I'll just

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Speaker 7: land this one.

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Speaker 6: That's as simple as that.

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Speaker 7: And then you hang in and it gets smoked and

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Speaker 7: you're like, why did I just baby that in there?

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Speaker 7: So there's a great there's a fine line of learning

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Speaker 7: to go too hard and learning to go too slow,

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Speaker 7: and once you understand where that is for you, it's

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Speaker 7: just understanding which pitch is that fine line, if that

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Speaker 7: makes sense, you know. So maybe it's a one to

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Speaker 7: one count where you're like, this guy, he I've only

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Speaker 7: shown him fastballs in he's got to be expecting that

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Speaker 7: because I haven't shown I can throw anything else for

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Speaker 7: a strike. That's a perfect opportunity to throw something that

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Speaker 7: you haven't thrown it for a strike on that fine

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Speaker 7: line of I know that I'm gonna kind of not

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Speaker 7: baby this one a little bit, but I'm gonna just

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Speaker 7: I know it's a little more safe to kind of

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Speaker 7: just feel it in there because he's got to be

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Speaker 7: sitting something hard. You know, So those are the pitches

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Speaker 7: where I feel like, like I was saying earlier, if

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Speaker 7: you can detect those and understand the moment for those,

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Speaker 7: they can save you from, you know, getting the yank

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Speaker 7: or getting giving up a bunch of runs.

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Speaker 3: When you're making clues from those that have had success,

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Speaker 3: going back to that without giving way trade secrets. Who's

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Speaker 3: influenced you? Who you're looking at?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. You've done this before too

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Speaker 7: a few times. Yeah, okay, So I watch a lot

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Speaker 7: of lefties. I like Max Freed, I like Blake Snow,

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Speaker 7: David Price, Cole Hammils. You know, I watch all the

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Speaker 7: guys here. I would say that each guy here is

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Speaker 7: different and they can teach you something different, and it

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Speaker 7: might not just be about pitching. You know, you can

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Speaker 7: watch Brady Singer workout and you can understand or his

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Speaker 7: training in the training room and understand why he throws

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Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty Here he's leaving us clues. He's

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Speaker 7: showing what it takes to throw one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 7: innings in a season. Or you look at Hunter and

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Speaker 7: you see how hard it is and how much it

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Speaker 7: moves and how accurate is to me, his mechanics and

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Speaker 7: his body are leaving us clues saying this is what

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Speaker 7: it takes to be X amount pitcher. I like to

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Speaker 7: throw dollars amount dollar amounts on it because you know,

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Speaker 7: that just helps think if I simply do these things,

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Speaker 7: then here's the reward, and the reward is extremely, extremely

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Speaker 7: life changing, you know.

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Speaker 6: So I get off on that stuff. Man. I just

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Speaker 6: love That's my favorite part about it.

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Speaker 3: Coming I can tell.

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Speaker 7: Yeah and I don't. It's it's fun. The rehab process

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Speaker 7: for me, going back to the first question, was fun

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Speaker 7: because I got to take all those things that I

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Speaker 7: learned and all those clues that were left, and I

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Speaker 7: got to put them into action for much longer and

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Speaker 7: actually try and adapt my game to them for a

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Speaker 7: much longer period than most get to.

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Speaker 1: Brandon appreciate the time. Unfortunately we're out of it, but

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Always great to chat with you,

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Speaker 1: and the best of luck this spring.

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Speaker 6: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Brandon.

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Speaker 1: That is Red's Lefty Brandon Williamson chatting with us on

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Speaker 1: the Budweiser Reds Hot Stove League. We wrap things up

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Speaker 1: when we come back next on the REDS Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in wrapping things up on the Butterweiser Reds

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Speaker 1: Hot Stove League presented by UDF with Jim Day. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tommy Thraw. Always great to chat some Reds baseball and

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's so good to get out here and watch a

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Speaker 1: little practice, see pitchers face hitters, and we get to

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Speaker 1: see it for real.

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Speaker 3: Coming up this weekend with a Cactus League opener. Can't wait,

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Speaker 3: good Year Ballpark.

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Speaker 2: It's always Cleveland Guardians and the Cincinnati Reds to kick

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Speaker 2: it off, no different.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to Saturday, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The roommates squaring off as they always do to kick

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Speaker 1: off the Cactus League action. That game will be at

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Speaker 1: three zero five Cincinnati time. Airtime is two fifty across

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Speaker 1: the network, so hope you can join us for that

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00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: as the spring season officially gets going and then it's

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Speaker 1: baseball from this point forward.

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Speaker 3: It's all the time we have for today.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening for Jim Day, Brandon Williamson, and Brad Meta.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tommy. Throw a good night,