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Speaker 1: Your host Ken Brew on news Radio seven hundred WLW

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Speaker 1: on the closing day of.

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Speaker 2: The Olympics in Italy. Welcome on in seven hundred WLW,

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Speaker 2: and we are keeping close watch on the gold medal

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Speaker 2: hockey game the US met against the Canadian men. It

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Speaker 2: is won nothing USA as the second period has just begun.

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Speaker 2: Later in the show to break down how the gold

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Speaker 2: medal game has gone, will be joined by former NHL

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Speaker 2: general manager Neil Smith, who built the New York Rangers

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup team in nineteen ninety four and along the

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Speaker 2: way is coached in a lot of hockey games and

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Speaker 2: including a few right here in Cincinnati. But right now

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Speaker 2: early second period, won nothing USA overt Canada. A lot

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Speaker 2: of college basketball, Bengals football, and yes, Red's baseball to

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Speaker 2: get to between now and when we're done at noon today,

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Speaker 2: and let's start with basketball, because I don't think there

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Speaker 2: was a bigger win, at least as far as back

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Speaker 2: I can remember. And I'm not going back to the

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Speaker 2: sixties or anything like that. I'm going back over thirty years.

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Speaker 2: I don't recall a bigger road win for the University

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati than the one it pulled off yesterday. Final

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Speaker 2: score Cincinnati eighty four Kansas sixty eight. This was a

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Speaker 2: total throttle by the Bearcats. Now, look, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a long shot for the University of Cincinnati to

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Speaker 2: get into the NCAAA Field of sixty eight. You can

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Speaker 2: win games, and you can win a lot of games,

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Speaker 2: but if the record isn't there, if the quad wins

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Speaker 2: aren't there, you're not going to go. This was their

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Speaker 2: second quad win, the other, of course, being against Iowa

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Speaker 2: State that was a home game. This was a road game.

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Speaker 2: And yesterday in the eighty four to sixty eight win,

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Speaker 2: Mustapha time was just terrific. Twenty eight points, eleven of

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Speaker 2: seventeen from the field. It was a career high for him.

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Speaker 2: Baba Miller eighteen points and eight assists. You see one

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Speaker 2: on a twenty to eight on late they were twelve

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Speaker 2: to go fifteen and twelve. Yes, it's a lot of

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Speaker 2: field of sixty eight. But Wes Miller yesterday on the

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Speaker 2: heels of that win, he would be exactly the way

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Speaker 2: you would think he would be. He was absolutely elated to.

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Speaker 3: Win a game in a place like this, against a

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Speaker 3: for our players that they get to feel that reward.

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Speaker 3: How about how about our front court tonight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's mossed Offa's birthday. That's one heck of a birthday present.

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Speaker 3: We all got to feel like it was our birthday.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seemed like everybody was celebrating afterwards, except, of course,

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Speaker 2: the folks that were on the Kansas side of the equation.

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Speaker 2: Kansas falls to twenty and seven, ten and four inside

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve. Now, Kansas didn't play well. I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to tell you, if you've watched enough of Kansas,

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Speaker 2: they didn't play well. The mitigating reason and why they

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Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati. Kansas wasn't getting any good looks. They

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Speaker 2: had no idea how to contain the big man in

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Speaker 4: We were just awful today defensively, and then they were great.

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Speaker 4: I mean they played great. They're bigs, dominated and their guards.

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Speaker 4: We didn't pressure them. They got where they wanted to.

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Speaker 4: So it was Yeah, it was a combination of defension,

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Speaker 4: to go. But they're bigs, you know. They destroyed us,

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Speaker 4: absolutely they did.

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Speaker 2: Now you see again, it's fifteen and twelve, seven and

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Speaker 2: seven inside the Big twelve. They're at Texas Tech Tuesday night.

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech is twenty and seven. They don't have their

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Speaker 2: best player. He's out, he's injured, you see, is getting

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Speaker 2: healthy again. They got to make a run. But that

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Speaker 2: was a huge win. If indeed they make a run

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Speaker 2: in a Quest for birth in the NCAA field of

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Speaker 2: sixty eight. We'll get in to what yesterday meant here

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Speaker 2: in just a little bit. Joining me is the godfather

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Speaker 2: what that win meant and whether or not you see

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Speaker 2: Xavior is now thirteen and fourteen, eighth in the Big

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Speaker 2: East They're at Providence on Tuesday night. Yep, they got

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Speaker 5: Very very disappointed with the first one minutes of the game,

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Speaker 5: but what does it really matter, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: We got to continue to help them to see if

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Speaker 2: Well that's the idea, right, I mean, you got to finish,

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Speaker 2: and both UC and Xavier have had trouble finishing games

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Speaker 2: was a problem for Xavier in this game. It was

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Speaker 5: Our first half was very very poor. We weren't ready

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Speaker 5: So it felt a little different than the Villanova game.

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Speaker 5: We were ready to go. We jumped Villanova early, where we

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Speaker 5: to bad offense because we're going to get a set offense.

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Speaker 5: We weren't playing with the pace that we normally do,

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Speaker 5: you know, Treyorri's really good. If they were healthy, they're

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Speaker 2: Well we'll see if Xavier can stay healthy and make

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Speaker 2: some sort of run. But the Big East, I don't

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Speaker 2: do well in their tournament, no question about it. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: I watched this game. This game was a rock and

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Speaker 2: again Kentucky was struggling, right, they had lost two in

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Speaker 2: Elijah Freeman had a tip in miss with one point

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Speaker 2: seventy five to seventy four, But there was a call

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Speaker 2: before that, with about fourteen seconds to go, a push

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Speaker 2: of it for Mark Pope. Mark Pope went crazy. His

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Speaker 2: To me, to a lot of people, looks like the

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Speaker 2: kid from Auburn took a flop, wasn't called no matter,

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Speaker 2: reports that after the game he was yelling in frustrating

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Speaker 2: find me. I don't care what they how many much

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Speaker 2: money they take from me, I don't care. I don't care. Well,

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Speaker 2: a very upset head coach.

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Speaker 6: We refuse to give control to people that are outside

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Speaker 2: We refuse to give control.

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Speaker 6: To fans, to give control to anybody else associated with

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Speaker 6: That's what I talked about. We have forty eight hours

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Speaker 6: it because that's what we do. So we're not giving

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Speaker 6: away our power. We're not like, we don't make excuses.

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Speaker 6: We don't do that regardless of what is happening, regardless

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Speaker 6: of how disgraceful things are, we don't give away our power.

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Speaker 6: Regardless of how embarrassing, personal, awful, like unacceptable things are. We

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Speaker 2: Well, there you go. There's a man that was beside

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Speaker 2: himself after a one point lost third in a row

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Speaker 2: for Kentucky Auburn seventy five, Kentucky seventy four again at

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Speaker 2: South Carolina on Tuesday night. NKU is at Youngstown State.

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Speaker 2: That's a two o'clock tip today Friday night, it just

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Speaker 2: kept right on rolling for Miami ninety one seventy seven

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Speaker 2: Seventy seven points looks like a doable number if you're

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Speaker 2: trying to win a basketball game these days, particularly with

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Speaker 2: the way the way Miami shoots the ball. They shoot

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Speaker 2: the country. But still, Travis Steele knows that as you

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Speaker 2: get deeper into the season, when you start playing games

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Speaker 2: that matter, when you get into for them, hopefully the

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Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, defense starts to play a huge role. But

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Speaker 2: our defense has just got to be a little bit better.

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Speaker 7: I thought we'd been making great progress in that area

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Speaker 7: last four and a half games, but not as much tonight.

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Speaker 2: And that's got a katina to be the case here

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Speaker 2: moving forward. We gotta be better on that end. YEP

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Speaker 2: got to be better on that end. But they've worked

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Speaker 2: been for any other team, would have been considered a

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Speaker 2: major setback. For example, em and Es Sparrow, one of

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Speaker 2: looked like a devastating blow when all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: Bowling Green on Friday night. Skaljack has played well virtually

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Speaker 2: ever since he went in in replacement of Ipsarro, and

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Speaker 2: even though there are different kinds of players, they both

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Speaker 2: unbeaten with a ninety one seventy seven win over Bowling Green.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I feel like that's just the beauty of

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Speaker 8: our team. We have so many good players that can

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Speaker 8: hurt you in any given night. Obviously, I learned a

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Speaker 8: lot from Evan. Obviously he was the point ground before

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Speaker 8: he got hurt, So I've kind of just I've watched

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Speaker 8: a lot of what he does. Obviously I don't play

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Speaker 8: of what he does to make myself better. So just

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Speaker 8: trying to stay calm, stay poised throughout like tough times

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Speaker 8: just we have so many good players that can hurt you.

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Speaker 2: I'd say that is a fact. Jack. And they got

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Speaker 2: a road game against Eastern Michigan on Tuesday night, then

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Speaker 2: they go out to Athens to play Ohio, and then

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Speaker 2: it is the Mac Tournament. This is a team that

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Speaker 2: just keeps right on rolling along. Now the big question

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Speaker 2: I got a contract extension. I just haven't gotten around

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Speaker 2: He said that that about a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: scores are relatively meaningless. The line score was Cleveland four runs,

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Speaker 9: I'm making an effort to better myself. That's why I

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Speaker 2: It's everything that's great about Cincinnati, everything that's great about Milford,

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Speaker 2: It sure felt like one number one Michigan sixty three,

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Speaker 13: We have light snow right now and twenty seven degrees

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Speaker 13: Negotiations to refund the Department of Homeland Security continue. Now

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Speaker 2: Get this six car garage and an extra thirty two

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five square feet of unfinished basement. Want

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Speaker 2: to see it? Call holding five one three four five

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Speaker 2: one forty eight hundred five one three four five one

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Speaker 2: e dot com nine nine news radio seven hundred at

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Speaker 2: WLW under two minutes to go second period in Italy.

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Speaker 2: It has still won nothing USA over Canada in the

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Speaker 2: gold medal hockey game in men's hockey. Again, we'll keep

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Speaker 2: you apprized of that. Former NHL general manager Neil Smith

441
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Speaker 2: built the New York Rangers nineteen ninety four Stanley Cup team,

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Speaker 2: got Messia there and everyone else. Uh, he will join

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Speaker 2: us to break down the game. At eleven thirty six,

444
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Speaker 2: Canada has just tied it with one forty four to

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Speaker 2: go in the second period. So I was watching the

446
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Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati game last night and it kind of fell

447
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Speaker 2: into a pattern of a lot of games we saw

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Speaker 2: last year where there was a feeling out period, actually

449
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Speaker 2: a feeling out half, but once the hammer got dropped C Cincinnati,

450
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Speaker 2: it really fell into to third gear. The Dencade goal

451
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Speaker 2: was brilliantly set up, and then there was a terrific

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Speaker 2: crosser off a corner to Nick Hagelin that set up

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Speaker 2: the second goal and yet another clean sheet. Two games

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Speaker 2: no goals allowed by FC Cincinnati, won in CONCACAF Champions

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Speaker 2: Cup and the other in the MLS opener, which was

456
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Speaker 2: last night against Atlanta. Somebody who was soaking it all

457
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Speaker 2: up standing by to join us right now. He is

458
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Speaker 2: one of the premiere soccer influences of our time, and

459
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Speaker 2: certainly someone who understands the beautiful game better than anybody

460
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Speaker 2: right here on the Tri State. It's our good buddy,

461
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Speaker 2: DJ Sweitzer, DJ, how are you on this glorious Sunday

462
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Speaker 2: hanging in there?

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Speaker 16: Can a little disappointed by a US giving up that

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Speaker 16: goal a minute ago, but hey, we're not here to

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Speaker 16: talk about hockey this morning. We'll keep it focused on

466
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Speaker 16: last night's football.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely a lot of time to go in that that

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Speaker 2: game over there in COURTEENA. All right, look at I'm

469
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Speaker 2: watching this game last night and I'm a little frustrated

470
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Speaker 2: in the first half, I didn't since there was the

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Speaker 2: offensive cohesiveness that I wanted to see from this team.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, it was a solid first half of soccer.

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Speaker 2: What happened do you think at halftime or what did

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Speaker 2: Pat Noonan and his staff do to make that second

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Speaker 2: half different in terms of chances and results for FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 16: You know, it's hard to say what exactly Pat Noonon

477
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Speaker 16: and the staff did. They're obviously not going to reveal

478
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Speaker 16: any of their secret sauce in the locker room at halftime,

479
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Speaker 16: but I do think it was a little bit the

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Speaker 16: team getting used to the idea of playing without a

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Speaker 16: Vander Obviously, him going down and having to be subbed

482
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Speaker 16: out in the thirteenth minutes was a big shake up

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Speaker 16: to the plans that they had put in place over

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Speaker 16: the last couple of weeks as they prepared for this

485
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Speaker 16: home opener, and obviously they executed down during the Champions

486
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Speaker 16: League as well. But when they lose the player so

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Speaker 16: vital to them like that, it's going to take a

488
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Speaker 16: little bit of time for the team to at their

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Speaker 16: feet back underneath them and get situated. And I think

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Speaker 16: by the sign the second half rolled around, they're feeling

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Speaker 16: a little bit more comfortable in their own shoes about

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Speaker 16: him on the.

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Speaker 2: Pitch, from that clearing header to the way the play

494
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Speaker 2: developed on den K's goal. He gets the ball inside

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Speaker 2: the box, I mean, forget about eating a sandwich. He

496
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Speaker 2: could have made a sandwich and eaten a sandwich, very

497
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Speaker 2: very patient inside the box. This again is a young

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Speaker 2: player but playing well beyond his years. I thought he

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Speaker 2: handled that magnificently on that goal. What about you, yeah,

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Speaker 2: den K?

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Speaker 16: You have to love his movement to get open for

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Speaker 16: the ball. He finds himself in so many great positions

503
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Speaker 16: in the box because he's just great at getting into

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Speaker 16: the good spot to make a teammates easiest, this look

505
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Speaker 16: even easier, and when he is in those positions, there's

506
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Speaker 16: pretty much no chance he's not going to put it away.

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Speaker 16: So absolutely a great opener.

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Speaker 2: And Hagland elevating for that header. Now, look, I want

509
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Speaker 2: to talk about Brian Ramirez in just a second, and

510
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Speaker 2: I don't mean to, you know, make fun of his age,

511
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Speaker 2: but he is one of the older players on that roster,

512
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Speaker 2: if not. The the way he elevated for that I

513
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Speaker 2: thought was very impressive.

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Speaker 16: Hey, elder Statesman can definitely still contribute. Shout out to

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Speaker 16: Nick for keeping it down for all this old guys

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Speaker 16: out there. But no, he looked great out there as

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Speaker 16: well last night. His speed really didn't seem to be

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Speaker 16: much of an influence in the game. I thought Tyler

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Speaker 16: Robert or excuse me, Miles Robinson alongside him also looked

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Speaker 16: really really solid. But yeah, Nick, great to see him

521
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Speaker 16: get on the scoreesheet right at the end of the match.

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Speaker 2: Talk a little if we could. Let's talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about Brian Ramirez. He came to the team late.

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Speaker 2: It was after the first of the year, and it

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Speaker 2: had been rumored for a while. But I'm just wondering

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Speaker 2: what your thoughts are on Ramirez, who had the corner

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Speaker 2: that Haglin put away. I'm wondering what dynamic do you

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Speaker 2: think we're going to see from him as this season progresses.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I was also really impressed with Brian Ramirez last

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Speaker 16: night the Ecuador and really took that left wing and

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Speaker 16: made it his. In fact, both are wing backs. Last

532
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Speaker 16: night I thought looked really really solid overall. But Ramirez

533
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Speaker 16: is definitely going to give you something down that left flank.

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Speaker 16: He's a type of player that's going to take on

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Speaker 16: his attack or defenders. But he also has a significantly

536
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Speaker 16: solid service or service out from that wing. So seeing him,

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Speaker 16: you know, play in a corner that's kind of to

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Speaker 16: be expected when he's slinging balls in all evening.

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Speaker 2: Fair to say that significantly. This team isn't that different

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Speaker 2: from last year's team. I mean Ramirez this year, or

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Speaker 2: Shadow was gone. The major core of this team is

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Speaker 2: still here. What has been added has been added I

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Speaker 2: think to supplant star value here, not add star value.

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Speaker 2: Would that be fair to say? Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Absolutely.

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Speaker 16: I mean someone like you Barlow, who came on for

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Speaker 16: a second half substitution last night, is a new guy

548
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Speaker 16: in the squad, but definitely brought in to help give

549
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Speaker 16: us a little bit more depth off the bench so

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Speaker 16: that the quality doesn't drop off when you pull out

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Speaker 16: one of your significant starters. And I think they did

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Speaker 16: a really good job this offseason finding the pieces they

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Speaker 16: needed to supplement some of these star players that they

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Speaker 16: have on the roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the most significant offseason move in your opinion?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Man, I mean, obviously there's a lot of different players

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Speaker 16: that they brought in this season. You know, I don't

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Speaker 16: know necessarily that he came in a little bit later

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Speaker 16: at the end of last year. I thought, gee, looked

561
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Speaker 16: really really impressive last night as well in midfield. You know,

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Speaker 16: not a brand new signing, but so far Brian Ramirez

563
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Speaker 16: looks to be the most impactful of the new signing

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Speaker 16: so far.

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Speaker 2: Watching that Conker CAF Champions Cup game last week and

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Speaker 2: it was friends and loved ones there. I'm just you know,

567
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Speaker 2: I suppose when you set these things up and you

568
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Speaker 2: open it to competition, you're not necessarily looking to see

569
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Speaker 2: what the support is. But I thought that was an

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Speaker 2: embarrassment to mL less to have. I mean, it looked

571
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Speaker 2: like I tweeted out there were more people at Jeff

572
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Speaker 2: Ruby's on that night than there were at that match.

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Speaker 2: What an embarrassment. What was it thinking behind including a

574
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Speaker 2: team like that or allowing a team like that to

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Speaker 2: play its way in.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: So, I mean, obviously, the Dominican Republic isn't necessarily known

578
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Speaker 16: for their soccer pedigree, and there's not a whole lot

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Speaker 16: of economic development on the island, and I think that

580
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Speaker 16: spurs a lot of things that are going on, both

581
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Speaker 16: in the quality of the team and the ability for

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Speaker 16: people to actually fill up the stands. The other thing

583
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Speaker 16: to kind of keep in mind, too, is these games

584
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Speaker 16: will important for SC Cincinnati, important for the team they're

585
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Speaker 16: playing against as well. They're not necessarily seen as quite

586
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Speaker 16: as important of a competition as necessarily their home league

587
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Speaker 16: competition at times, and it's not that unusual to see

588
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Speaker 16: in these North American Championship caliber games to have an

589
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Speaker 16: empty stadium when you travel to somewhere like the Caribbean

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Speaker 16: or Central America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I understand it. I know what the

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Speaker 2: league is trying to do, and I'm one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: behind it because it is an international sport, there's no

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Speaker 2: question about it. I don't know. I just seemed like

595
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Speaker 2: maybe the buy in on this there could have been

596
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Speaker 2: a little more of research. We get that same team

597
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Speaker 2: up here on Wednesday night, and I'm guessing that the

598
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Speaker 2: attendant is going to be far greater than what we

599
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Speaker 2: saw there. But sometimes I just wonder if there's just

600
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Speaker 2: so much that the league is trying to do and

601
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Speaker 2: understanding that it's going to shut down for the better

602
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Speaker 2: part of what five six weeks for the World Cup,

603
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Speaker 2: almost seven weeks for the World Cup. I know what

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Speaker 2: they're trying to do, but it just seems to me

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Speaker 2: maybe ahead of you know, they get ahead of their

606
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Speaker 2: skis a little bit with these kinds of things.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, And you know, it's hard for condocap with such

609
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Speaker 16: disparity between the haves and have nots within the federation itself,

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Speaker 16: When you're having to face up against a team like

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Speaker 16: FC Cincinnati that has a billionaire owners, a brilliant stadium

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Speaker 16: and training ground, with you know, really star level players,

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Speaker 16: it's tough to really compare them against some of these

614
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Speaker 16: teams that are coming from kind of the backwoods of

615
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Speaker 16: North American soccer. And unfortunately, every once in a while

616
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Speaker 16: you get paired up against one of these teams that

617
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Speaker 16: just the mismatch scenes as big as it might, I

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Speaker 16: might add the other.

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Speaker 2: Night well, chatting with soccer influencer DJ Sweitzer on the

620
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Speaker 2: heels of a two zero win for FC Cincinnati at

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Speaker 2: TQL Stadium last night over Atlanta, things are going to

622
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Speaker 2: get a little chaotic and a little different at the

623
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Speaker 2: end of the season with the with the MLS trying

624
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Speaker 2: to sync up with EPL. I'm not sure how all

625
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Speaker 2: of that is going to play out. I do know

626
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Speaker 2: it is going to make for an interesting short season

627
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Speaker 2: and then a regular season, and they're going to happen

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Speaker 2: within a couple of months of each other. How do

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Speaker 2: you see that playing out? And do you do you

630
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Speaker 2: have any concern about injury knowing that you're going to

631
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Speaker 2: jumpstart to get to get on the same schedule as

632
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Speaker 2: the EP, you're going to have to jump start a

633
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Speaker 2: new season within six weeks maybe less than that, with

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Speaker 2: training time of ending a very short mini season. How

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Speaker 2: is that going to work out? In your opinion?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 16: Last night, as we were tuning into the game, my

638
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Speaker 16: wife and I were talking about how we felt like

639
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 16: the MLS offseason was already really short and felt like

640
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 16: we had MLS Cup not all that long ago. And

641
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 16: it's definitely going to feel that way too when they

642
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Speaker 16: switched to the new fall to spring alignment that MLS

643
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Speaker 16: is going to be switching to after the World Cup.

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Speaker 16: It's definitely going to be a massive change.

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Speaker 17: I mean, we're going to expect.

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Speaker 16: When they play in the fall, they'll play late into

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Speaker 16: December and then they're going to take a little bit

648
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Speaker 16: of a break, and that's something that's kind of frequent

649
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Speaker 16: within European soccer, even leagues like the German Bundesliga, take

650
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Speaker 16: about a two to three week break in the middle

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Speaker 16: of winter to kind of let the cold weather pass

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Speaker 16: and hopefully not have any injuries stack up. And actually,

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Speaker 16: I think that's going to help the league with injuries

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Speaker 16: a bit because it's going to give everyone a nice

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Speaker 16: big chunk off in the middle of the season to

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Speaker 16: get healthy. And I'm hopeful that when people come back

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Speaker 16: in the spring, they're going to be a little bit

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Speaker 16: more you know, fit when we're midway through the season,

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Speaker 16: so that way we have a good run in heading

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Speaker 16: into the MLS Cup playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be fascinating how that

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Speaker 2: that works. So this current season ends as all MLS

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Speaker 2: seasons do in early December, correct, Yes, and then and

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Speaker 2: then this mini season or whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: will begin when most MLS seasons began, which is in

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Speaker 2: late February, and they'll play to what June? Is that is? That?

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Speaker 2: Is that the idea of play to June?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think so, And I think it's that little

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Speaker 16: mini season is going to be a weird one. But look,

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Speaker 16: Major League Soccer is no stranger to weirdness. You know,

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Speaker 16: they had you know, the in house tournament that they

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Speaker 16: had during COVID.

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Speaker 2: They also had you know.

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Speaker 16: Really weird penalty shootouts for a long time, the word

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Speaker 16: FIVA complying, you know, non compliant clocks. So they're used

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Speaker 16: to doing things that are a little bit flipped the

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Speaker 16: game on its head, and I think they'll figure out

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Speaker 16: a way to make it somewhat entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would imagine. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they're going to award an MLS Cup at the end

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Speaker 2: of this this mini season or whatever they call it.

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Speaker 2: But and then you're right back into it with that

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Speaker 2: same EPL schedule. How do you anticipate the same breaks

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Speaker 2: as the EPL takes. You mentioned that the EPL takes

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Speaker 2: a two to three week break usually in December in

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Speaker 2: that time period the holiday season over in England. Do

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Speaker 2: you anticipate that break being the same here to keep

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Speaker 2: in sync with their schedule as well, because, honestly, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's been, as you well know, DJ, it's been pretty

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Speaker 2: dang cold around here for a very long time. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure you can totally escape it. But do you

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Speaker 2: anticipate that break to be in sync with what goes

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Speaker 2: on in the EPL?

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Speaker 16: So the Premier League itself in England they actually don't

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Speaker 16: break over the holidays. But you know, they're one of

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Speaker 16: the very few leagues in European soccer that doesn't do that.

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Speaker 16: You know, of this league, like Spain and Italy, they're

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Speaker 16: warm throughout their whole season, so they'll play through that break.

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Speaker 16: But a lot of the northern countries like Germany, Denmark,

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Speaker 16: all the Nordic countries, they all take pretty sizable breaks.

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Speaker 16: MLS has said that they're planning to have a winter

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Speaker 16: break so that way we don't have to play through.

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Speaker 2: The coldest months.

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Speaker 16: They've also talked about when they return to play in

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Speaker 16: the spring that they're going to try to shy away

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Speaker 16: from playing outdoor games in some of their more northern

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Speaker 16: extreme climbs, so that way they can protect the players

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Speaker 16: and hopefully, you know, keep guys a little bit more warm.

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Speaker 16: So I think they're trying to plan for this as

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Speaker 16: best they can. I think economically it makes a lot

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Speaker 16: more sense for the league when it comes to bringing

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Speaker 16: players and having them sold out of the league too.

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Speaker 16: But it's definitely going to create some headaches. And you know,

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Speaker 16: it's funny today we have snowfalling here in Cincinnati. But

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Speaker 16: last night it was actually pretty decent.

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Speaker 17: Weather for our home opener.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was, and the crowd was rocking, yet another

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Speaker 2: sellout crowd of TQ well. TQ well is the site

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Speaker 2: this coming Wednesday night when it's that team from the

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Speaker 2: Dominican that comes up here to continue the Champions Cup

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Speaker 2: and then right back on the road to play at

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Speaker 2: Minnesota on the twenty eighth on Saturday night. So we've

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Speaker 2: got three games coming up inside of four days this week.

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Speaker 2: But such is life inside the MLS. All right, DJ,

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Speaker 2: it's great catching up with you. Stay well. We need

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Speaker 2: to hear your voice and we visit down the road.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, looking forward to Ken.

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Speaker 2: DJ Sweitzer knows more about soccer than anybody that I know.

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Speaker 2: Than anybody I know. It is after two in Cortina, Italy,

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Speaker 2: and the gold Medal men's hockey game is tied at

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Speaker 2: one one, awaiting the third and quite possibly the decisive

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Speaker 2: third period for the Gold still to come. Perfect free

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Speaker 2: agent matchups in the NFL and for your Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 2: and little baseball talk too. Do we anoint some of

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Speaker 2: greatness on young players and does that curtail their ability

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Speaker 2: to become great, in other words, the next best or

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Speaker 2: the next greatest, and the kids like eighteen nineteen years old.

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Speaker 2: It's happened here in Cincinnati. It has happened here in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and we have seen it far too many times that

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Speaker 2: the that the title, you know, is just so heavy

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Speaker 2: that the player never lives up to it. That and

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Speaker 2: a little talk about what's transpired in spring training, which

743
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Speaker 2: has been quite a bit. We're at nine p fifty

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Speaker 2: four on this Sunday News Radio seven hundred a WLW.

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Speaker 2: Pease fall He's back.

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Speaker 18: Get a Wins and Mariners today at through thirty five

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Speaker 18: pm my seven hundred WLW, or stream for free on

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on at Little Miami Brewing there

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Speaker 2: really is. It's great pizza, it's great salads, it's great

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Speaker 2: peer and all of the other things that go on.

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Speaker 2: For example, wind down Wednesdays one dollar off all glasses

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Speaker 2: of wine and half priced bottles of wine as well,

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Speaker 2: and ukernite at Little Miami as every Wednesday seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: is when it starts. Better get there early because it

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Speaker 2: fills up. And for the best swag anywhere you might

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Speaker 2: want to check out the Little Miami app. They've got

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Speaker 2: sweatshirts and T shirts and all kinds of things. Even

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Speaker 2: go one on there with my name on it, which

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Speaker 2: is pretty pretty sharp, I must say, Little Miami Brewing.

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Speaker 2: It's open today for fun, for for qality, for great beer,

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Speaker 2: great pizzas, and great salads. And it's right there downtown

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Speaker 2: in historic Milford. Not sure how to tackle your taxes?

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Speaker 1: The morning Sports Talk with your host Ken Brew on

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Speaker 1: news radio seven hundred WLW, still one to.

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Speaker 2: One in Italy, Canada and the United States Men's Gold

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Speaker 2: Hockey Game, the gold medal on the line between in

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Speaker 2: Canada and the USA with sixteen minutes to go in regulation.

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Speaker 2: Keeping an eye on that for you all morning. You're

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred w welw as we deal with things

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Speaker 2: that are pertinent to you and me here in the

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Speaker 2: greater Cincinnati area, and of course that topic would include

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Speaker 2: your Cincinnati Bengals, the business of rebuilding that Bengals defense,

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Speaker 2: the business of getting the Bengals back into the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: of not wasting yet another season of Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 2: underway the combine where they get to go to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: All teams do when they get to interview players, watch

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Speaker 2: them run around the field, you know, in their underwear, jumping, leaping,

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Speaker 2: and all the stuff that has nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: putting on pads and making tackles and blocking. All of

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Speaker 2: that begins on Thursday of this coming week. Free agency

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Speaker 2: period starts on Wednesday, March the eleventh, and the draft

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Speaker 2: is April the twenty third. That's when it begins Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: April the twenty third, and the draft this year is

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Free agency there are five signings that make

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Speaker 2: sense to our next guest. Our next guest would be

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Speaker 2: considered the heart, the mind, the soul, and the brains

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Speaker 2: of Pro Footballfocus dot com. Profootballfocus dot Com is based

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Speaker 2: right here in Cincinnati. Their offices are in over the Line.

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Speaker 2: It is the most analytical website when it comes to

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Speaker 2: all things football. They analyze every player, every play, every game,

794
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Speaker 2: every season, so at the end of that season, really

795
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Speaker 2: at the end of that game, you know exactly what

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Speaker 2: that player did and how he stacked up against other

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Speaker 2: players of his similar ilk. Dalton Wasserman would be the

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Speaker 2: man I speak of, and he has this story out

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Speaker 2: five signings that make sense. One of those signings involves

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Speaker 2: our Cincinnati Bengals. Let's welcome him in, Dalton Wasserman, how

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Speaker 2: are you glorious, Sunday.

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Speaker 17: Good, good, good, appreciate you as always can.

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Speaker 16: Have me on.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing, isn't it. I mean, you just keep

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Speaker 2: writing these these stories, and others at PFF dot com

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Speaker 2: they just shake their head and wonder, how can we

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Speaker 2: even approach this part of journalism that Dalton is delivering

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Speaker 2: on a consistent basis? Am I right?

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Speaker 19: I mean, look, man, it's all about we have the

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Speaker 19: data to provide, you know, provide these things, and you know,

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Speaker 19: I just try to try to find solutions, especially in

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Speaker 19: the offseason, to a lot of teams problems. You know,

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Speaker 19: it's just kind of that thing where you turn the

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Speaker 19: Super Bowls over and you get in and now you

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Speaker 19: just try to fix all thirty two teams about the

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Speaker 19: dam far too modest.

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Speaker 2: But any event, you've got a story up there that

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Speaker 2: you ran this week, you posted this week one off

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Speaker 2: season acquisition that could take these five NFL teams to

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Speaker 2: the next level in twenty twenty six, and Lo and Behold,

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Speaker 2: here are the Bengals, and you're saying linebacker Devin Lloyd. Now,

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Speaker 2: why is Jacksonville's Devin Lloyd such a good fit for

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati in your opinion?

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Speaker 19: So look, the goal for the Bengals to meet this

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Speaker 19: offseason has got to be the fix this frut seven

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Speaker 19: on defense. Obviously, we're assuming that Trey Hendrickson probably won't

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Speaker 19: be here, so there's certainly a lot of holes both

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Speaker 19: on a defensive line and at linebacker. And look at Bengals.

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Speaker 19: They had to believe the lowest graded group of linebackers

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Speaker 19: by our metrics in the league. And that makes sense

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Speaker 19: when you consider they started two rookies and Demetrius Knight

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Speaker 19: and Barrett Carter for the most of it. So one

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Speaker 19: way or the other, they need two things. One more

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Speaker 19: talent at that linebacker level and two, I think a

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Speaker 19: true leader. Right when you talk about Devin Lloyd and

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Speaker 19: what he did for Jacksonville this year, third highest graded

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Speaker 19: linebacker in football for US, an unbelievable athlete, really good

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Speaker 19: in run defense he always has been, and I believe

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Speaker 19: it was five interceptions he.

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Speaker 10: Had this year.

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Speaker 19: To me, not only do they need again a talented

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Speaker 19: player to add to that group, they need a leader.

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Speaker 19: I think Devin Lloyd can be that leader in the

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Speaker 19: middle of this defense while they build everything around them.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. Did they make a mistake letting Logan

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Speaker 2: Wilson go by trade in the middle of this past season?

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Speaker 2: Did he decline that much? Because I was like something

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Speaker 2: that aesthetically Logan Wilson could fill.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: I mean the thing is though his play declined a

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Speaker 19: bit over the last two years for sure. I mean

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Speaker 19: when you look at him and Jermaine Pratt, who was

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Speaker 19: let go, I believe last offseason as well, the play

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Speaker 19: was declining, right, So yes, Logan Wilson was a leader,

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Speaker 19: but clearly the coaching staff felt like, okay, this he's

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Speaker 19: declining enough, we got to play these younger players. And

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Speaker 19: obviously there was some friction there in the middle of

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Speaker 19: the season. So certainly Wilson was a leader here for

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Speaker 19: a long time. But I think they just got to

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Speaker 19: find another young playmaker that can really fill the void

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Speaker 19: of production now and not just the leadership side.

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Speaker 2: But you're not going to put, for example, Devin Lloyd,

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Speaker 2: Barrett Carter, and Demetrius Knight on the field at the

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Speaker 2: same time, are you they don't seem to play that

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Speaker 2: kind of a defense.

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Speaker 19: No, in all likelihood no, So I think what you're

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Speaker 19: going to have if in that scenario, as Lloyd obviously

868
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 19: would be locked in as an expensive starter there and

869
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 19: a really good one at that, and then you could

870
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 19: either have an open competition, and I think in all

871
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 19: likelihood as the second round pick, Demetrius Knight would probably

872
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 19: have the inside track to that. I don't think Carter

873
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 19: or at any point this year, was really ready to start.

874
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 19: He just kind of pushed into that role with the

875
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 19: struggles of the rest of the unit. But to me,

876
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 19: the most likely scenario there would be Lloyd and Night,

877
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 19: but that second spot probably an open competition.

878
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 10: Wouldn't even shock me if.

879
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 19: They brought another cheaper veteran in just to try to

880
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 19: compete for a spot there and get some production.

881
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, they got the dough right now, they're at least

882
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: from what we're told the cap would be, they're fifty

883
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: three million plus under the cap, so they would have

884
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: that kind of dough to bring him in. Now. I

885
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: know you're not in playered acquisition. I know you're not

886
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: into player contracts, but just give me an idea of

887
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: the kind of money that you think somebody like Devin

888
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: Lloyd would command.

889
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 19: There there was the upper tier of linebackers. Last year,

890
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 19: we're getting right around seventeen to eighteen million.

891
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 10: Dollars a year, and the year, the year that Lloyd.

892
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 19: Is coming off of, I would expect that number it

893
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 19: probably approach twenty million dollars a year. If I were

894
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 19: guessing maybe four years, four years and eighty million dollars

895
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 19: with at least half of that forty to fifty million

896
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 19: of it guaranteed. So that's really what you're talking about

897
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 19: for a guy coming off a career season, and it

898
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 19: doesn't sound like Jacksonville. I don't think he's going to

899
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 19: franchise tag him. So he's going to hit the open market.

900
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 19: There's going to be, you know, somebody, there's several teams

901
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 19: that need linebackers and that's a position that's becoming more

902
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 19: and more important. Again, I think he might touch that

903
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 19: twenty million.

904
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 17: Dollar a year mark.

905
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned you mentioned franchise tag, you mentioned Trey Hendrickson.

906
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people in this town that

907
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: think maybe a wise thing for the Bengals to do

908
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: is franchise tag Trey Hendrickson and then try to trade

909
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: him that some to somebody that might need his talents.

910
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 2: He's coming off an injury, coming off surgery for the injury. Yes,

911
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: he had those two great seasons back to back, but

912
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: he's over thirty, and I'm just wondering Trey Hendrickson on

913
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: the open market before we talk about the team that

914
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: you have paired him with, Trey Hendrickson on the open market,

915
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: could he approach all of that injury history we just

916
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: talked about. Could he expect to approach what Max Crosby

917
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: received or what Miles Garrett received in last offseason?

918
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 19: I don't think so, considering his age, like you mentioned,

919
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 19: and coming off the surgery, I don't think because when

920
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 19: you get up there, you're talking into the forty million

921
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 19: dollar range or Michael Parson's getting in what forty seven

922
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 19: million a year, I don't think it would be in

923
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 19: that range, but similar to what he got this year

924
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 19: with that thirty million dollar range still wouldn't shock me

925
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 19: at off. You were talking about, let's say a three year,

926
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 19: ninety million dollar contract somewhere in there, and the load

927
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 19: into thirty to low thirties kind of ranger because he's

928
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 19: still as a pass rusher when he is healthy. He's

929
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 19: one of the best in the business. I'd say pretty

930
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 19: easily one of the top ten pass rushers in the business.

931
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 19: And there's several teams that could use that, right I

932
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 19: think about a team that just played in the Super Bowl,

933
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 19: like New England, they could use a player like Trey

934
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 19: off the edge Washington trying to rebuild their defense. You know,

935
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 19: I think about a team like a Carolina you know,

936
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 19: somebody who just needs that dynamic pass rusher off the

937
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 19: edge that's missing that. They will still pay a really

938
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 19: good price for that. It just won't quite be up

939
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 19: in that forty million dollar rage considering the agent injury.

940
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: Well, you got Washington with about sixty eight million in

941
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: cap space, so yeah, they've got money, and New England

942
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: a lot less than that thirty about thirty five million,

943
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: thirty thirty six million in cap space. They could certainly

944
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: make a play for him. But back to the the

945
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: tag in trade scenario for the Bengals, is that too

946
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: much of a risk. I'm not saying that if you

947
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: tag him and trade him that that scenario couldn't happen.

948
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: Everybody seems to think, and by everybody, I mean the

949
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: so called Bengal experts that are popping up everywhere on

950
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: social media. Everybody seems to think tag and trade scenario

951
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: that the Bengals would be able to get a third

952
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: round pick compensatory pick back from whomeever he goes to.

953
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, you'll also stand the possibility of tagging

954
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 2: him and then having that injury come back to haunt

955
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: the Bengals as a team as they try to trade him,

956
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: and it may not be that third round pick or

957
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: that fourth round pick, and all of a sudden, you

958
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: know what was the object of the exercise. Is it

959
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: just better to do a clean break and say, you

960
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 2: know what, thanks for the memories and we're just going

961
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: to let you walk. What would you do?

962
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 19: I mean, this is a tough position because it seemed obvious.

963
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 19: Now there's been so much friction over the last what

964
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 19: two years about trade, trying to get a long term extension,

965
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 19: and there's been just so much friction between him, his camp,

966
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 19: and the organization that it just feels like he does

967
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 19: he wants to play somewhere else. He wants to play

968
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 19: somewhere he feels he can contend for a championship and

969
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 19: feel respected with regards to his contract. Right, So do

970
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 19: you want to also deal with the aggravation of if

971
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 19: we franchise him, then he doesn't really have the freedom

972
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 19: to get to pick where he wants to go, right,

973
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 19: I mean, then it's about, Okay, who's making the best offer.

974
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 19: So look, if the Bengals feel like they can get

975
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 19: a pick, let's say a pick in the top eighty

976
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 19: of this year's draft, right, which I think is still

977
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 19: far less value than they could have gotten for him

978
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 19: had they just traded him last off season.

979
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 16: Right.

980
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 19: I think he could have got a first round pick

981
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 19: if he traded him last off season. But to just

982
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 19: get something for him, you know, look, if you get

983
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 19: anything for him, then it's not really a backfire. But

984
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 19: at the end of the day, if you ask around

985
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 19: the league and you go, okay, maybe they'll get a

986
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 19: fourth or a fifth, some sort of Day three pick.

987
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 19: I don't know that it's worth the aggravation at that point, Right,

988
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 19: you might as well just cut it clean. Use that

989
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 19: cat space. He just you know, you get him off

990
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 19: the books. He was thirty million dollars this year. Use

991
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 19: that cat space and just go and fix the rest

992
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 19: of your defense and move into the next era.

993
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: The author of the article one offseason acquisition that could

994
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: take these five NFL teams to the next level in

995
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six whether us he is Dalton Wasserman Pro

996
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Footballfocus dot com. All right, so, some of the others

997
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: that you mentioned in this article, the Chargers and center

998
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: Tyler Lindenbaum. You mentioned the Broncos Kenneth Walker, the third

999
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: who you know. We all know that he just basically

1000
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: put the Seattle offense on his back and willed them

1001
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl. You got the Cowboys and safety CATEB. Downs,

1002
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: of course, the great Ohio State player who would be

1003
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: a draft pick. You're you're working on mount mock drafts.

1004
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: Everybody's working on mock drafts. Do you see any scenario

1005
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: where Downs falls to the Bengals at ten?

1006
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 10: Overall?

1007
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1008
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 19: I think Caleb Downs is the most fun question mark

1009
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 19: in this draft right now, because there are scouts that

1010
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 19: I have seen, and I honestly I include myself in

1011
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 19: this one. I think you could easily argue he's the

1012
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 19: best football player in the entire draft. And what the

1013
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 19: question is going to be now is, Okay, how highly

1014
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 19: do you value a safety? Do you take that guy?

1015
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 19: Even if he's that good in the top five, is

1016
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 19: it top ten. We've seen guys like Kyle Hamilton and

1017
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 19: Derwin James fall into the mid teams and go to

1018
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 19: really good football teams, and well, they turned into superstars

1019
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 19: because that's what they were scouted to be, right, So

1020
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 19: that's going to be the question with Downs. I think

1021
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 19: you could make an argument, although we have to number two,

1022
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 19: if you told me the New York Jets took him

1023
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 19: at number two, I really wouldn't be all that shock

1024
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 19: because if you're taking best player available, he is that guy.

1025
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 19: But the fact that he is a safety, and there's

1026
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 19: still a lot of scouts even within the league that go, well,

1027
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 19: you just don't take safety that high. I could see

1028
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 19: him falling to ten. And honestly, if I'm Cincinnati and

1029
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 19: Caleb Downs is there at ten, I take him. I

1030
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 19: know we talked about the front set of being a

1031
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 19: huge need, but Caleb Downs is one of the future

1032
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 19: game changers in this draft that can make your entire

1033
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 19: defense around him better.

1034
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 10: He would be a steal.

1035
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 19: You talk Cincinnati at twelve, Miami at eleven, Sorry, Cincinnati

1036
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 19: at ten, Miami eleven, Dallas at twelve, All of those teams,

1037
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 19: if Caleb Downs is on the board, be a home

1038
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 19: run eight plus pick.

1039
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: So what you're telling us here, Dalton Wasserman the wheel

1040
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: that makes it go at Pro Footballfocus dot Com, what

1041
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: you're telling us is if the Bengals signed Devin Lloyd

1042
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: and free agency, and if they draft Caleb Downs number

1043
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: ten overall, what you're telling us, I think is the

1044
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Bengals defense is well on its way to recovery in

1045
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. That's what I'm hearing, is that what

1046
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: you're saying absolutely.

1047
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 19: The other thing there they'd have to do in free

1048
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 19: agency is just find a little more pass rush help.

1049
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 19: And the good news about this draft as well is

1050
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 19: later down in the draft, when you get into rounds

1051
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 19: probably two through five, there's a lot of really good

1052
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 19: defensive linemen in this draft. You can stack up with

1053
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 19: the depth of this unit that we have here in

1054
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 19: the draft with the defensive line. Well, you know, it's

1055
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 19: not imperative necessarily that they take a defensive lineman number

1056
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 19: ten overall. I think they just need to take the

1057
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 19: best defensive player available to him. If that's Downs, then

1058
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 19: a plus stuff and then build a defensive line through

1059
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 19: free agency and the rest of the draft for sure.

1060
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, I don't mean to tell tales out of school,

1061
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: but before you and I talked today, I talked to

1062
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: you a couple of days ago, and you really like

1063
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: somebody that played for Western Michigan last year. He's a

1064
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: defensive end. I believe his name is Nadam Tucker and

1065
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: six three, two fifty. He was just all over the

1066
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: place in that MAC championship game against Miami, had about

1067
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: two and a half three sacks. I think he had

1068
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: a sack in every one of his last five games

1069
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. But he's where would you see

1070
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: him going and would that be a fit for the Bengals.

1071
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 17: I think absolutely it would be a fit.

1072
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 19: When you talk about those stand up edge rushers that

1073
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 19: Cincinnati usually liked in their defense, I think, to me,

1074
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 19: you know what I saw, and you mentioned it. I

1075
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 19: didn't really discover him until I was preparing were preparing

1076
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 19: to preview that MAC title game, and I was like, man,

1077
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 19: this Western Michigan pass rushes. Man, who's this number eleven?

1078
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 19: And then he ended up when I looked at his numbers,

1079
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 19: highest pass rush win rate in the country in the

1080
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 19: FBS this year among edge defenders. So I'm like, okay,

1081
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 19: let me watch this guy a bit. And then he

1082
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 19: went down to the senior ball and he was really

1083
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 19: good down there. Right, He's a little bit on the

1084
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 19: smaller side, not necessarily a three down player yet, but

1085
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 19: his hand usage and his quickness and it's just knowledge

1086
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 19: of just knowing how to rush the passer really good stuff.

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Speaker 10: I think he's.

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00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 17: Probably to me.

1089
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 19: I might take that production somewhere about the fourth round

1090
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 19: and say, you know what, hey, fifteen or so times

1091
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 19: a game, at least early on, just get out there

1092
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 19: and rush the passer on third down and things like that.

1093
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 19: But I think absolutely when you talked about having death

1094
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 19: on your defensive line, I think that's a great guy

1095
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 19: to have rotationally, and just because look, you can never

1096
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 19: have too many pass rushers, right, it's not just about

1097
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 19: that one star guy. You want to have a unit

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00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 19: of him, and he can add to that.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you're channeling, mil Kleiper Junior right here.

1100
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: I think you're ready for the big time. I think

1101
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: you got to get on one of those draft day shows. Dalton.

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00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: I'll be agent. You just give me seven eight percent.

1103
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: I think we can make something happen here. Are you interested? Hey?

1104
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 19: I mean, hey, I'm always interested, man, any opportunity.

1105
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 10: Certainly, we have the.

1106
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 19: PFF Draft Show a draft show as well, so we

1107
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 19: got three days of that about I don't know, probably

1108
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 19: eighteen hours of coverage across the three days. So we

1109
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 19: got that here for sure, so be sure to tune

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Speaker 19: into that on late April.

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00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: All right, Dalton Wasserman Profootballfocus dot Com read him on

1112
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: a daily basis, because he'll be writing even more than

1113
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: that between now and draft day. All right, Dalton, stay well,

1114
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: you know we're gonna call again and for your time today.

1115
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 19: Thanks any content, appreciate you as though you bet Tyler Linderbaum.

1116
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna pick him up and have a terrific center.

1117
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: Not going to be here, Devin Lloyd. We'll see. I

1118
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: don't you know. They they they have to get a

1119
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: veteran linebacker in there. We saw what happened when they

1120
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: put two kids together and it just it didn't work.

1121
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: It was a bad gam But if you look at

1122
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: what Lloyd did this year eighty eight point four overall grade,

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00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: third among all qualified linebackers this season, there's going to

1124
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: be a lot of money out there for Devin Lloyd.

1125
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: We'll see if the dollars are there from a Cincinnati bank.

1126
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: They got to do something. Safety, certainly, safety is just

1127
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's glaring. It has been since Jesse Bates departure.

1128
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: But they certainly needed to address linebacker, edge rusher, and

1129
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: even interior the defensive line. I'm one who wonders if

1130
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: it can be addressed in its entirety in one offseason.

1131
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: It is coming up on ten twenty four. In a moment,

1132
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: we'll check out baseball. The Reds in Goodyear, losing their

1133
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: opener yesterday four to two. Back at it today against

1134
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: the Mariners at three. You'll hear it here on seven

1135
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: hundred at WLW. And why don't we always seem to

1136
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: want to coronate young ballplayers and turn them into the

1137
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: next the next Barry Larkin, the next Willie Mays, the

1138
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: next Derek Jeter. Why do we do that? Why can't

1139
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: we help ourselves? All of that and more coming up

1140
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: on this Sunday morning on seven hundred w l W.

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Speaker 7: When you think about the American dream, you think about

1142
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 7: Bill Cunningham.

1143
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: I'm an American and I always dream about Bill Cunningham.

1144
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 8: That's because Willy is so dreaming.

1145
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: Willy is so American.

1146
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: I bet he's got a big eagle tattooed on his chest. Now,

1147
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: I bet he's got a tattoo with an American muscle car. Yeah,

1148
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: and his nipples are probably the tires.

1149
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 20: You can't get any more American than that.

1150
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 16: You can't get any more American than.

1151
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 10: Willie Dear Cunningham. Tomorrow at twelve noon on seven hundred w.

1152
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Speaker 2: L Big, Big Weight coming up with Little Miami Brewing.

1153
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Speaker 2: My pick beer of the week is River Dog Blueberry Sour.

1154
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Speaker 2: It's easy to sip, nice low ABV just five percent.

1155
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Speaker 2: Every single Tuesday two dollars off my pick beer of

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Speaker 2: the Week. Wednesdays are big. They have the Yuker Tournament

1157
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Speaker 2: going on there. The Survivor fifty premiere watch party is

1158
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: this Wednesday at Little Miami Brewing starting at six thirty.

1159
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: All ages welcome, Grow great food, challenge, prizes, photo ops

1160
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Speaker 2: mceed by comedian Wayne Mamott. Thursdays, well, it's triple steps

1161
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: and tote taps, it's line dancing. There's always something great

1162
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Speaker 2: going on at Little Miami Brewing, and you know where

1163
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: it is, on the banks of the Little Miami River

1164
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Speaker 2: in the heart of downtown historic Milford. Fucke. Oh, this

1165
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Speaker 2: is an old eau. Do you remember the strawberry alarm clock.

1166
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 20: Oh?

1167
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: It probably didn't because you're in some sort of psychedelic

1168
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: casee back in the sixties. Welcome back Sunday morning sports

1169
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: talk where it's ten thirty eight. It is headed to

1170
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: overtime in Italy, Canada and the United States are tied

1171
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: at one to one in the men's Olympic gold medal game.

1172
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: Tied at one to one. This is a This is

1173
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: a classic. I don't know if you've seen any of it.

1174
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: It's interesting the way the USA roster has been placed together.

1175
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: A lot of the big name scorers from the United

1176
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: States who play in the National Hockey League have been

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Speaker 2: left off the roster. Role players, grittier players have I

1178
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: guess been assembled by the general manager of the US

1179
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: Olympic team, a former player by the name of Bill

1180
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: garn What I mean if you look at Jason Robertson,

1181
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: Adam Box, Cole Caulfield, Chris Krider, these are big scorers

1182
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Speaker 2: in the NHL that would have played for the United

1183
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: States and they've been left off the roster and so

1184
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Speaker 2: far at his work. It's got the USA in the

1185
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: gold medal game tied at one to one. If those

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01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: players were on the on the team, who knows that

1187
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: they would have reached this far. It's been a great

1188
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: go of it and now we'll see next goal wins

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01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: sudden death for the gold medal. The Reds play later

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Speaker 2: on this afternoon. They play the Mariners. It's a three

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Speaker 2: zero five start here on seven hundred w welw. They

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01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: fell to the Guardians yesterday four to two. I worked

1193
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: in Tampa for seven years on television, and I thought

1194
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: the most irrelevant thing in all of sports was an

1195
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: exhibition baseball score. Really it means nothing, it really does.

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01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: Managers will say, well, we want to develop a winning attitude,

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01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: and you know you can't develop that unless you win.

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01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: In all that YadA YadA YadA. But the fact of

1199
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: the matter is the scores are meetingless. It's what the

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: players do that really matter. And in yesterday's game, Chase

1201
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: Burns and Rett Louder both pitched a couple of innings

1202
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: and both pitched very well. They're vying for that fifth

1203
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: starter spot, each with a couple of innings. Burns was clean,

1204
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: no hits, no runs, walk three, struck out one. Louder

1205
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: allowed a couple of hits and one run, he walked one,

1206
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Speaker 2: and he struck out four. For what that matters this

1207
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: early in the exhibition season. So Game two today is

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Speaker 2: against the Mariners at three five. We have a tendency

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: and it's we as I mean, in the media, we

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01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: have a tendency to hang things on players that oftentimes

1211
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: aren't fair, if not true. And one of the things

1212
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: we in the media do is try to make players

1213
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: who haven't achieved anything yet the next something, the next

1214
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: Derek Jeter, the next Barry Larkin, and it's worked to

1215
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: that player's disadvantage often times, in fact, more often than

1216
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: it has not. I think of a guy like Austin Kerns.

1217
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: He was going to be the next great player for

1218
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: the Reds. He he was going to be the guy

1219
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: that was going to redefine the Reds roster. We were

1220
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: going to have power hitters here. We had Griffy, we

1221
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: had done, but we had Austin Yearns, a five tool player.

1222
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: Good got him. I so sick and start to that

1223
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: Moniker and Kerns couldn't handle it, and he wasn't the

1224
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: next great thing. And It was with other players too

1225
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: that have come along. It was Ty Howington. Remember when

1226
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: the Reds drafted him back around two thousand. He was

1227
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: going to be the next great pitcher, a left hander

1228
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: cut out of the same cloth as pick any left

1229
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: hander that pitch for the Reds. It never happened, Richie Gardner,

1230
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: never happened. We tend to get too excited about these ballplayers.

1231
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: They're going to be everything, and then they turn out

1232
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: to be somewhat short of nothing. And it happens over

1233
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: and over and over again, and it's happening again. Now

1234
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: there's a kid named Sebastianakunyan. He's a teenager. He's a catcher.

1235
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: He has been described as having the power of Aaron

1236
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: Judge and the speed of La de la Cruz and

1237
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: the defense of Yadayer Molina. Now you're a teenager and

1238
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: you're imagine carrying that with you. Why the media does that?

1239
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Maybe it's for clicks on stories.

1240
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because you know, there are some people that

1241
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: just can't help themselves by doing I really don't know,

1242
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: but I saw this on cbssports dot Com this week.

1243
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: I love Matt Snyder. I love his Snyder's soapbox, and

1244
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: he's on his soapbox yelling about this, and it struck

1245
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: a nerve with me because I worked all those many

1246
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: years in television news and it just it's just I

1247
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: found myself falling into some of these traps myself. But

1248
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: why do we do that? Why do we put kids

1249
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: who barely in some cases like Acunya, know how to

1250
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: speak English and know where America is? Why do we

1251
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: do that to them? So I asked Matt if he

1252
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: joined us on the show today and he's kind enough

1253
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: to do that, and he is standing by to talk

1254
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: about his story, I may hit him with some red

1255
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: questions as well. And Matt, how are you of this

1256
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: glorious Sunday.

1257
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 10: I'm great, and you always give me a big hit.

1258
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 10: I don't know if anybody other than like my dad,

1259
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 10: if my brother is a bigger fan of the soapbox,

1260
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 10: So thank you so much as always.

1261
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying it just seems like you speak

1262
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: common sense. And this whole thing about anointing these these kids,

1263
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: these teenagers, as the second coming of you know, Derek Jeter,

1264
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: it just it drives me absolutely crazy. We've had examples

1265
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati over the course of the last twenty

1266
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: five years. You know, the Austin Kerns of the world,

1267
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: the Ty Howington's of the world. They're going to be

1268
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: the next great thing and it never pans out, and

1269
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: who knows, probably does it disservice to those players from

1270
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: a mental standpoint, Oh wait a minute, now I have

1271
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: to live up to this. I'm worth one hundred percent

1272
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: on this. It's ridiculous. Why does the media keep doing this?

1273
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 10: I don't know, And it's to be fair, it's I

1274
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 10: think a good number of us At.

1275
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Speaker 17: This point I have started to push back against it.

1276
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 10: But you're right, it goes back decades and I think

1277
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 10: it exploded with the agent of the internet. But even

1278
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 10: like Bryke Harper on the cover Sports illustrating who Shit Team,

1279
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 10: saying he's going to be the greatest player of all time,

1280
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 10: like he actually had to fight against the bus label

1281
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 10: for years and are.

1282
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: You kidding me?

1283
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 10: This guy was awesome for the time he came up

1284
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 10: when he was nineteen. And I actually think a lot

1285
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 10: of people would look at Bryce's career and say they

1286
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 10: thought he was going to be better and he's going

1287
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 10: to end up in the Hall of fame, so that's

1288
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 10: probably a bit much.

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Speaker 20: But then the.

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Speaker 10: Examples I talked about, and I know you obviously saw it,

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Speaker 10: because what last week, what really raised my antenna and

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Speaker 10: caused me to write it was there's this kid named

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Speaker 10: spat Jenicunya from Venezuela. He's a catcher. And there was

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Speaker 10: a guy who reported that he signed with the Yankees

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Speaker 10: and said that he, let's see, he has the power

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Speaker 10: of Aaron Judge, the speed of Lli Brees, and he's

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Speaker 10: defensively like Yadier Molina. And I was like, all right, man,

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Speaker 10: what are we doing here? You have put one of

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Speaker 10: those things on a kid. The only thing I think

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Speaker 10: would be acceptable as speed, because you can't speed can't

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Speaker 10: really fail unless you have a lot of injuries, right right,

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Speaker 10: But like you're saying, we've got an Aaron Judge, Eli

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Speaker 10: Da La Cruz, Gott your Molina hybrid or you, I mean,

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Speaker 10: get out of here. And it did make me think,

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Speaker 10: as I mentioned in the article of Jason Dominca just

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Speaker 10: a few years ago, when a bunch of scouts were saying,

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Speaker 10: he's like Mike Trout, but he's better than Trout was

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Speaker 10: at this point and somebody else said, like no, what

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Speaker 10: about he's Mickey Maynle Jason Dominia is right now, is

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Speaker 10: twenty three years old, and I think almost everybody if

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Speaker 10: they hear his name, thinks, oh man, he's been a

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Speaker 10: disappointment or even a bus He's only twenty three. What happened?

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Speaker 10: It's because in twenty nineteen we heard he was Mike

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Speaker 10: Trout and Mickey Mantle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's take a coonia just for a second.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to do that to somebody that's coming

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Speaker 2: out of Plano, Texas or you know, Lexington, Kentucky. It's

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Speaker 2: another thing to do to a kid that's going to

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Speaker 2: be on a in a national stage internationally in the

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Speaker 2: United States of America. I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 10: I've been coming from I believe Venezuela crazy seventeen years old.

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Speaker 10: And you've got people who are already going to be

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Speaker 10: and you know, the spring training fields nowadays, it's it

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01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 10: was long since become a cottage industry to go to

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Speaker 10: spring training and everything. The second this kid shows up Yankee,

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Speaker 10: So it'll be in Florida. In Florida, there will be

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Speaker 10: people flocking to watch him, looking forward to seeing the

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Speaker 10: next Aaron Judge Slash Ellidator Loocrus Mallene. I still laugh

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Speaker 10: when I say it, because you can't there's no way

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Speaker 10: to to I just can't even imagine a player who

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 10: could have There's no possible way a physical human being

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Speaker 10: could have judges power, Elliet's speed and still be Molina

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Speaker 10: behind the plate. It's just not I don't see how

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Speaker 10: that's physically possible for the old Team's got to be

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Speaker 10: like Superman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The ultimate example in my lifetime was Mickey Mantle.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we all know about him. Well, they had a

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01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: player that came along in his wake by the name

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: of Bobby Mercer, and Bobby Mercer was going to be

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Speaker 2: the next Mickey Mantle. Well, Bobby Mercer was never the

1341
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Speaker 2: next Mickey Mantle. He was a very good player. He

1342
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: wasn't a great player, But who knows if that didn't

1343
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: happen to him coming up in the biggest media market

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Speaker 2: in the world, if that didn't happen to him coming up,

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01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 2: how much better could a player like Bobby Mercer b

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Speaker 2: And that's one example. That's one example out of I

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: would guess at least a couple of one hundred where

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: the next greatest is not necessarily the next greatest, and

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's a bum. He flamed out.

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Speaker 10: There has to be some mental baggage that you carry

1351
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 10: with you when you hear that stuff, especially in baseball,

1352
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 10: which is a daily game in which failure is very

1353
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 10: very common. You know, you go to the ballparker over

1354
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 10: four for a few days. Now you start thinking, Hey,

1355
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 10: I'm supposed to be the next Mike Trout. Why would

1356
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 10: I go over four two games in a row instead

1357
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 10: of just being in the mindset that I need to

1358
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 10: bounce back and be better tomorrow. It's a bit much

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Speaker 10: for me to put it on anybody, much less seventeen

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 10: year old who's coming to a foreign country. As you said, so, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I wish we would doing it, but I don't think

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Speaker 10: we will. Because if you just said the Yankees signed

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 10: to catch out of Venezuela, who's the top prospect in

1364
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 10: this international class? That doesn't pop as much as Aaron Judgejellydala,

1365
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 10: cruise out of your molina, that cops, And all of

1366
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 10: a sudden, everybody's paying attention, yeah.

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: Or or you're looking for some sort of click, some

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: sort of angle, or whatever it may be that oh well,

1369
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: wait a minute, this kid flamed out. Maybe the front

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01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 2: office doesn't know what they're doing, or maybe the coaching

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01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: staff doesn't know it. For the organization doesn't know what

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01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: it's doing, and then you're you're you're literally rooting out

1373
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: to other angles on the story. We're chatting with Matt

1374
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 2: Sneyder cbssports dot com and how we want to anoint

1375
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: young baseball players to be the next great thing, the

1376
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: next person that has Cooper's Town all written over them.

1377
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: And I, you know, I look at a guy like

1378
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: Ellie day La Cruz who probably had a working knowledge

1379
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: of what the Cincinnati reads we were all about, and

1380
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 2: the great names that populated the infield, somebody like, for example,

1381
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 2: Barry Larkin. But the only thing I can I can

1382
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 2: imagine is as as we get, as we get new,

1383
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: a new generation of players coming through, maybe that won't

1384
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: be the case. I'm just hoping that you know, some

1385
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 2: of the legends in the game, like you know, the

1386
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: comparison to Mickey Man Mickey Mantle isn't even in video

1387
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: games anymore. So it might mess it might it might,

1388
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: it might not might yea, it might not be as

1389
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: big a deal.

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Speaker 10: What do you think, right? Yeah, I think there's hopefully

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01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 10: something to that. The other thing I always I think

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Speaker 10: about when you brought up Elliott, he fortunately is such

1393
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 10: a an anomaly physically, like six five, around two hundred pounds,

1394
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 10: a lot of power, off the chart speed, like I

1395
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 10: don't know if we've even seen anybody like him physically

1396
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 10: before in baseball, So who we even compared to. When

1397
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 10: you get a freak of nature like that, you don't

1398
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 10: have a point of comparison. So it's it's better when

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01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 10: it's Hey, you've got to watch this kid. He's amazing.

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 10: He's got off the chart speed. He also has power,

1401
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 10: he has great range, sorts out like it's better to

1402
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 10: just do that than throw names on the guy. I

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 10: would much much rather do that and let people see

1404
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 10: for themselves.

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: I want to hit you with a couple of other things.

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01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: The Reds have made a couple of acquisitions since you

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: and I last talked about. One is interesting in Nathaniel Lowe.

1408
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 2: We'll see if he can recapture what he had in Texas.

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01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: The other, obviously, is aio Haaneo Suarez. How much dynamically

1410
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: do you think Suarez brings to that lineup, because it

1411
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like the metrics that are out there, in particular,

1412
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 2: Pakoda have a real, you know, real appreciation for that acquisition.

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Speaker 2: What is your theory on that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that the pendulum has gone too far

1415
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 10: in the other direction for me on power only guys.

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 17: And I know that before with you, I've.

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01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 10: Preached with Kyle Schwarber, with Pete Alonzo that those guys

1418
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 10: have gotten underrated for a long time. They were probably overrated,

1419
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 10: and then everybody wants to to react and adapt and everything.

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 10: And now I think that I think the Metrina hurt

1421
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 10: are gonna be hurting without Alonzo's forty home runs in

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01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 10: the middle of that lineup behind Sodo Inland Door. By

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 10: the same token, the Reds nobody with more than twenty

1424
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 10: two home runs last year and that was Ellie. I

1425
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 10: know he was compromised in the second half, but still like,

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 10: you don't want Ellie to be your main power guy.

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 10: You want him to be a two hole or even

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01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 10: leadof guy and have the thunder behind him. Putting a

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01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 10: U Jeneo Suarez in the middle of that lineup where

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Speaker 10: he can hit forty five home runs, I really think

1431
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 10: it's a big, big needle mover, and I think that

1432
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 10: stuff that those projection systems are underrating the impact that

1433
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 10: somebody like him can have on the lineup. And not

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01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 10: just that, but you've got salth Stewart, maybe a full

1435
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 10: year with him. If he doesn't work out, then Nathaniel

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 10: Lowe is kind of a lottery ticket there. But like

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01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 10: he was terrible last year, but if he's the guy

1438
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 10: that he was for the Rangers in twenty twenty two

1439
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 10: or even twenty three and twenty four, that could be

1440
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 10: a big help for the Reds. And I can't help

1441
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 10: but wonder also when you look at the Red's got

1442
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 10: so much more production out of their pitching staff than

1443
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 10: the position players last season, I almost wonder if at

1444
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 10: some point, if they're hurting for offense, if you might say,

1445
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 10: let's throw a you any at third base. Let's have

1446
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 10: Key Brian Hayes just be a defensive replacement in the

1447
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 10: late innings, and then you can get south Stewart and

1448
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 10: Spencer Steer in the lineup. Or if it's nath Daniel

1449
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 10: Lowe at either DH or first State, there's a way

1450
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 10: to maximize the offense there. They've got options now, and

1451
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 10: the biggest deal for me is throwing the capability of

1452
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 10: forty five home runs from one guy right in the

1453
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 10: middle of that line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, all things, all things at least potentially possible.

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: I think they're I think they're better now than what

1456
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: they were from a production standpoint before Suarez showed up.

1457
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, And there's another thing, like Matt McLean, there's more

1458
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 10: there too, And there are more guys where you're not

1459
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 10: counting on him to all of a sudden it look

1460
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 10: like he did in half of the season as a

1461
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 10: rookie another year removed from the injury. Like, there's so

1462
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 10: much stuff that everything flows down from Dayla Cruz and

1463
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 10: now Suarez in the middle of the lineup, that it

1464
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 10: makes everybody else better. If Freedom stays in the leadoff spot,

1465
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 10: if he's got Elliot Swarz behind him, that just makes

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Speaker 10: Freedom that much more productive.

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Speaker 2: He from cbsports dot Com is Matt Snyder Matt Doug

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Speaker 2: always great catching up with you. We'll we'll do it

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Speaker 2: again soon.

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Speaker 10: Stay well, okay, sounds good, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: You bet and again they play the Mariners today at

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Speaker 2: three zero five. Ye'll hear it here two thirty airtime

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW. It is over in Italy. The

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Speaker 2: United States has won in overtime. Jack Hughes with the

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Speaker 2: game winner, and the United States, as they have in

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Speaker 2: women's hockey, have won the gold in men's hockey two

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Speaker 2: to one, three on three hockey in overtime, and it

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Speaker 2: proved advantageous for Jack Hughes and the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations to the boys who bring home the gold.

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Speaker 2: Mike Suloman, the head coach, won a couple of Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cups in his time as a coach in the NHL

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Speaker 2: and now has now has won an Olympic gold medal

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Speaker 2: two to one final USA. We are at ten fifty

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Speaker 2: five straight ahead, breaking down the field of sixty eight,

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Speaker 2: breaking down the field of sixty eight as it stands

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Speaker 2: right now, just to scan few weeks outside of selection Sunday,

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Speaker 2: we'll have all of that next on seven hundred wl W.

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01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: Lots of bugs are going around. It's time to stop

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Speaker 2: being a clown.

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Speaker 1: This is a public service announcement from seven hundred WLW

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Speaker 1: and wash your hands.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday morning Sports Talk a little after eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Coming up at about a half an hour. Neil Smith,

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Speaker 2: former NHL General manager, built the New York Rangers roster

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Speaker 2: to a championship, will join us to break down today's

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Speaker 2: gold medal game between the United States and Canada, won

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Speaker 2: by the United States two to one in overtime. See

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Speaker 2: what the former GM has to say about what has

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Speaker 2: been a high note for the United States and the

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Speaker 2: Olympics Golden Women's Golden Men's hockey. We are just to

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Speaker 2: scam few weeks away from selection Sunday, and a number

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Speaker 2: of results yesterday were more than a little interesting. The

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Speaker 2: Kentucky loss at Auburn was more than a little interesting.

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Speaker 2: In fact, if you listen to Mark Pope, he says

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Speaker 2: everything but officiating in his postgame ramp afterwards, but it's

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Speaker 2: pretty evident that he was upset with the officiating in

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Speaker 2: that one point loss.

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Speaker 6: We refuse to give control to people that are outside

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Speaker 6: of our program. Refuse, regardless of how personal it might

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Speaker 6: get or how bad it might get. We refuse to

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01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 6: give control to fans, to give control to anybody else

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Speaker 6: associated with this game. Regardless of how blatantly people are

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Speaker 6: trying to make this not happen, we refuse to give

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Speaker 6: them their power. That's what I talked about. We have

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Speaker 6: forty eight hours to turn this around. We've got a

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01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 6: massive game at South Carolina. We're gonna go find a

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Speaker 6: way to win it because that's what we do. So

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Speaker 6: we're not giving away our power.

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Speaker 2: We're not like. We don't make excuses.

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Speaker 6: We don't do that regardless of what is happening, regardless

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Speaker 6: of how disgraceful things are, give away our power. Regards

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Speaker 6: how embarrassing personal, awful like unacceptable things are, we refuse

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Speaker 6: to give away our power.

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Speaker 2: He was overheard telling his athletic director Mitch Barnhart after

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Speaker 2: the game, I don't care if they find me. We'll

1553
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Speaker 2: see it. Doesn't sound like he's moved on for me yet. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: the field of sixty eight awaits and a lot will

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Speaker 2: happen between now in selection Sunday to determine it. One

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: of the original bracketologists. I think he was the original

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01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 2: bracketologist standing by to join us. Right now. He's our

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01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: good buddy, Jerry Palm. You can find him at pombrackets

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01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: dot com for great in depth analysis as to what's

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Speaker 2: going on right now in college basketball. And Jerry, how

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Speaker 2: are you on this glorious Sunday?

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Speaker 17: All right? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm better off, I think than Mark Pope. He seemed

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01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: a little upset after lift.

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Speaker 17: How much of a standard can I'm sorry to say,

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Speaker 17: I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean you could probably take those comments and place them

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Speaker 2: anywhere in college basketball about one hundred times during the season, right,

1569
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just but it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: You've got the end of that game.

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Speaker 17: So I kind of with him on being upset. I

1572
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 17: think I didn't think that went as well as it

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Speaker 17: could have.

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Speaker 2: No, the put the push off on Colin Chandler. I

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01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: mean it did look like a flop. But again he

1576
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Speaker 2: was stenching. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Your your latest bracket, which came out before that game ended,

1579
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Speaker 2: That came out yesterday. You had Kentucky as a seventh seed.

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01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: They've lost now three in a row. Uh, They've got

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01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: plenty of turf between now and Selection Sunday. What what

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01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: impresses you or depresses you about Kentucky, Well.

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Speaker 17: Hope you won't be offended if I say nothing really

1584
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 17: depresses me, because I'm not I'm.

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Speaker 2: Either a fan or.

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Speaker 17: I just you know that's I'm kind of neutral about Kentucky.

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Speaker 17: But you know, they they've got some really good wins.

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01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 17: The Sleep of Tennessee is good. Win at Architas great,

1589
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Speaker 17: thank God. I mean, there's there's plenty of good here

1590
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Speaker 17: in what they've done this season. They don't really have

1591
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 17: a bad loss, but they don't have a great record

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01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 17: against the better teams that they've played. But it's not

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01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 17: so bad that you're in danger of being kicked out

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Speaker 17: of the tournament. But you know, they can't afford to

1595
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 17: lose South Carolina because that's just, I would say, arguably

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01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 17: the worst team in the league. You know, you get

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Speaker 17: Vanderbilt and Florida at home. Those are great opportunities. Florida

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01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 17: is playing so well that having to beat Florida is

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Speaker 17: something you hope you don't get to and an A

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Speaker 17: and M on the road is a team that's still

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Speaker 17: trying to make sure they're securely in the field. So

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01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 17: it's a challenging schedule down the stretch, but you get

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Speaker 17: two of your three tougher games at home. So you know, Kentucky,

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01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 17: you know, can't let a three games streak turned into seven,

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 17: but that they can do well here at the end,

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Speaker 17: and you know then going to the conference tournament feeling

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Speaker 17: pretty good about themself.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel basically the same way too. I I don't

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01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: sense that this this streak is going to I think

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01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: it ends with South Carolina on Tuesday night. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. It's a little lean around

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Speaker 2: here other than Miami. We'll get to Miami in a second.

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Speaker 2: It's a little lean around here for college basketball and

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: the postseason with Cincinnati and and Xavier not playing particularly

1616
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 2: well right now. Although Cincinnati had a huge win yesterday.

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01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: They've got Cincinnati.

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01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 17: Played great yesterday. If you had the better great season necessarily,

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Speaker 17: and I don't think they can salvage it in the

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 17: regular season anyway, but in terms of trying to get

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Speaker 17: into the NCAA tournament. But you know, that's a that's

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01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 17: a huge win, and it's uh, it's Kansas has had

1623
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 17: a strange year, and but Cincinnati's played really well to

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Speaker 17: win that game yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got two squad win wins. They got uh,

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Speaker 2: they've got the Iowa State win, They've got the win

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Speaker 2: against Kansas, but there's just so many things left. Yeah,

1628
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: if they get a little bit of a role, But

1629
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: are you're of the opinion they would they would have

1630
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: to win the Big Big twelve tournament to get in.

1631
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,879
Speaker 17: Most likely, yes, barring barring an end of season performance

1632
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 17: that is different than what the first part of the

1633
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 17: seasons it's shown.

1634
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Savior is an interesting study. Richard Patino came in

1635
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 2: that roster turned over. In this day and age, Jerry,

1636
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: it's very very difficult, I think for a new coach

1637
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: to come in, even with bringing players in that he's

1638
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 2: familiar with, as Patino did it at New Mexico. I mean,

1639
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 2: to get to get in there and get a team

1640
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: rolling in this day and age of nil and the portal,

1641
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 2: it takes a really special quality and it takes a

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01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 2: really big core that you know exactly what they can

1643
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: do and they know exactly what you want. It's not

1644
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: easy when there's transition in college basketball, but that all

1645
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 2: that's all that there seems to be in this day

1646
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: and age.

1647
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 17: Right, We've already had what to coaches fired this season,

1648
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 17: So yeah, in season firings at Kansas State fired Drome Tang,

1649
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 17: and then San Diego let go of Steve Lavin. But

1650
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 17: it's you need money anymore.

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01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 14: You know.

1652
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 17: It's funny because we went for the longest time not

1653
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 17: saying players, and now you know, saying players is what

1654
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 17: you have to do, and in order to do that,

1655
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 17: you need money. And the way the things they're going

1656
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 17: in college sports is that all the money flows uphill

1657
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 17: to the major conferences. Now, the Big Yeast is a

1658
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 17: major conference in basketball, but the major conferences in football

1659
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 17: are the ones that are getting, you know, the boatloads

1660
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 17: of the money. So those four conferences are always going

1661
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 17: to be at least, you know, for the most part,

1662
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 17: financially in pretty good shape to do what they like.

1663
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 17: And it makes it hard for other conferences, including probably

1664
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 17: some of the Big Yeast, where the only FBS team

1665
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 17: is Yukon Is it's going to be harder because they

1666
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 17: don't have the same level of money to compete. So,

1667
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 17: and I don't know if Reverde is sharing it's going

1668
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:11,480
Speaker 17: to change all that, but it's it's just I'm concerned

1669
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 17: about in basketball the outside of those four conferences that

1670
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 17: it might just be really difficult to get in that

1671
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 17: large pit anymore, not so much in the big yas yet,

1672
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 17: but you're already seeing all the others, like the West

1673
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 17: Coast is good for one or two, the Mountain West

1674
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 17: is good for one or two, and you hardly see

1675
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Speaker 17: him anywhere else ignore. So it's, uh, it's something that

1676
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 17: I think would be bad for the sport, But I

1677
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 17: don't know if it's something that we can do anything about.

1678
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: No.

1679
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I look at I look at a situation

1680
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 2: like Sean Miller. He goes to Texas, Texas is you know,

1681
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they don't want for money down there,

1682
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: and he's got that team.

1683
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 17: Don't like to spend it on anything but football.

1684
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: Football exactly. He's sixteen to ten other sports.

1685
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Speaker 17: In fact, they're very good at some other sports.

1686
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's sixteen. He thinks he's running to Texas.

1687
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 2: He thinks it's going to be better. He's sixteen and

1688
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: ten right now. Up until last night, he had won

1689
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 2: five in a row. But I mean, it's not happening

1690
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 2: yet for him out there right now.

1691
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 17: Oh yeah.

1692
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 13: No.

1693
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 17: And and they're pretty squarely on the bubble Texas is.

1694
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 17: It's here for the tournament. So yeah, it is hard

1695
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 17: to do it overnight. It's I mean, if you have

1696
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 17: I mean, Indiana did it in football, and I think

1697
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 17: it's even harder football to do it overnight. So it

1698
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 17: takes a It takes some good fortune. You know, you

1699
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 17: got to have the money to spend, you have to

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01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 17: really spend it wisely, and then you have to have

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01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 17: some good fortune even on top of that in order

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01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 17: to really be to go from not competitive to generally

1703
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 17: pretty competitive overnight. It's kind of hard.

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01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't see UCLA in your in your field right now.

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01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 2: Mick Cronin of course here we know since oh my gosh,

1706
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean did you probably saw him, you know, throwing

1707
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: his own player out of a game and all all that.

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01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: I Mick is, Mick is wired a little different. I

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01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 2: like Mic personally. I think Mick is a great guy.

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01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 2: But my gosh, you can't be doing that, can you.

1711
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1712
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 17: I think Mick, the Mick cron and the the guy

1713
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 17: is is it's a pretty good guy.

1714
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: McK croning.

1715
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 17: The coach kind of loses it sometimes and it has

1716
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 17: trouble braining himself in and uh so, yeah, that was

1717
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 17: an example of you know, just I don't know, it's

1718
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 17: he's got a lot of Bobby Night in him in

1719
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 17: a way that's not attractive. But uh, it's it's yeah,

1720
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 17: it's a weird situation there, and I don't know, you know,

1721
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 17: how much longer he's gonna last if he continues to

1722
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 17: have those kinds of issues. You know, they've got they

1723
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 17: got a big win yesterday over Illinois, just tremendous, say

1724
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 17: something they really needed to try and stay in this tournament.

1725
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 17: They still have a home at home with USC at

1726
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 17: the end of the year years so you know, I've

1727
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 17: got some work to do in Nebraska is coming to

1728
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 17: their place as well. But but yeah, there UCLA, you

1729
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 17: would think U c l A and US he should

1730
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 17: be better, but especially u c LA because they have

1731
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 17: a tradition that they kind of recruit too, even though

1732
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 17: it's been a long time since John Wooden was there. Yeah,

1733
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 17: you know, but they have, but they have been successful

1734
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 17: since then. You know, it's just it's been more hittan

1735
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 17: this and it's I think is going to have to

1736
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 17: if he's still gets it, if he gets another chance,

1737
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 17: that next year is going to have I think that's

1738
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 17: going to be a proving ground year for him.

1739
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 2: We just we I mean, the way games stacked up yesterday.

1740
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: It was just a phenomenal day to watch college basketball,

1741
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 2: and I did watch that overtime win over Illinois. Illinois,

1742
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, is a is a terrific team, but

1743
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: he's got a pathway in. I think he's got a

1744
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: pathway into this thing at eighteen and nine. But he's

1745
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 2: going to he's gonna have to he's gonna have to

1746
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: come up with some big wins. And as you mentioned,

1747
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 2: I mean he still has couple with Southern Cal left Miami, Ohio,

1748
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 2: the RedHawks. It is such a great story. I think

1749
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Travis Steele I said this, and maybe maybe you agree

1750
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: with me, or maybe you don't. Jerry, you could have

1751
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 2: a good coach, you can have a good program, and

1752
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just not a good fit for whatever reason.

1753
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,879
Speaker 2: And I think that's what happened to Travis Steele at Xavior.

1754
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: He goes to Miami and he puts together this team

1755
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: of just terrific ball players. They play well off the ball,

1756
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: They score with the best in the nation. He's not

1757
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 2: happy with his defense, and I understand every coach isn't

1758
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 2: happy with his defense. You have them against Kentucky is

1759
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 2: a ten seed. In your latest bracket. Their big problem

1760
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 2: is who they play, right, they don't have any quad

1761
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 2: win games, and they don't have any quad win wins,

1762
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: do they they have?

1763
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 17: I think they only have one quad two games and

1764
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 17: that was home against Acrid. Yeah, it's been I mean,

1765
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 17: the three the schedule is in the neighborhood of three

1766
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 17: fifty at three forty five this morning, out of three

1767
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 17: hundred and sixty five teams. So you know, if they

1768
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 17: need to be in a large team that means a

1769
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 17: loss in the conference tournament, and it really doesn't matter.

1770
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 17: I just there's just no path doing that large bid

1771
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 17: for a team with a schedule like that. It's it's

1772
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 17: just that's just the way it is. The only the

1773
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 17: only games left on their schedule that are meaningful for

1774
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 17: the NT double A Tournament are the three that are

1775
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 17: in the MAC Tournament.

1776
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: They can lose the next four.

1777
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 17: It's it's they still have to win the MAC Tournament

1778
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 17: or win the next four. They still have to win

1779
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 17: the MAC Tournament if they're going to be an NT

1780
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 17: double A Tournament team. And you know that's unfortunately, I know,

1781
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 17: scheduling is is hard for you know, the non major

1782
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 17: teams to get the kind of games they want. But

1783
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 17: you've talked about the first year coach, right, so so

1784
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 17: it's uh, yeah, it's it's a tough situation. They're a

1785
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 17: great story, and I really hope they're in the NT

1786
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 17: double A tournament. You know, I like the MAC and

1787
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 17: so I hope, I hope Miami makes it. Uh, but

1788
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 17: they're gonna have to win the conference tournament to make it.

1789
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah they can, can they Yeah? Right, they can afford

1790
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 2: a regular season loss. So they've got a rivalry game

1791
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 2: against Ohio University uh next next Friday night. But they

1792
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: have to win their conference tournament. There's no way that

1793
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: they're two mcas.

1794
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 17: If they last four, it doesn't matter, it doesn't change what.

1795
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 2: They have to do. Right, Okay, if they get in

1796
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: and again you have a match with Kentucky, which would

1797
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 2: be a very interesting matchup. But if they get in

1798
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: that team, what kind of damage can it do? In

1799
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 2: your opinion, I.

1800
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 17: Think if it made the sixteen, that would be probably

1801
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 17: over achieving when you consider that they're going to play

1802
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 17: teams the quality of which that they have not seen.

1803
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 17: Starting right away, you know they're they're going to play

1804
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 17: a team that is generally a lot better than anyone

1805
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 17: they've played all season, So now they could, you know,

1806
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 17: win one of those games and build some confidence to

1807
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 17: maybe win too. But because it's a team that knows

1808
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 17: how to win, you know, and there's something to be

1809
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 17: said for knowing how to win. But I think the

1810
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 17: max you could reasonably hope for it would be a Sweet.

1811
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Sixteen Sweet sixteen team. All right, So we've got so

1812
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 2: we got a lot of great basketball still to come.

1813
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 2: We had a great game yesterday between Michigan and Duke.

1814
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: Your next bracket comes out when Monday, Monday, okay, and

1815
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 2: tomorrow okay, And that's at Palm brackets dot Com. Right now,

1816
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 2: as you look other than the look other than the

1817
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: the top eight, give give us some team if you

1818
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind some team to watch here in the next

1819
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 2: week or two that you think has the chance to

1820
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: make a major move into that top eight.

1821
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 17: Well, I would say if I were gonna bet on

1822
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 17: a team, First of all, there's Michigan State. You know,

1823
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 17: it's going to get to play Perdue before the regular

1824
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 17: season ends, and I think they have another one with

1825
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 17: Michigan before the regular season ends. So you know, Michigan

1826
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,879
Speaker 17: State obviously great tradition, great talent, great coaching as always,

1827
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 17: So they're and they're I think a four seed now,

1828
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 17: so that's what the committee gave us. But yeah, they

1829
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 17: are at Purdue and they are at Michigan, and then

1830
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 17: you've got the Big Ten tournament where you've got enough

1831
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 17: quality at the top of the Big Ten for a

1832
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 17: team to make that kind of move. And then I

1833
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 17: would say Kansas. Of course, losing to Cincinnati obviously hurts

1834
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 17: them in terms of trying to rebuild their resume to

1835
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 17: get a seat, but they're in the Big twelve, and

1836
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 17: the Big twelve has got high quality teams, and Kansas

1837
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 17: is good enough to beat those teams. So the talent

1838
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 17: is if Peterson place, which is always a big hit,

1839
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 17: but he played against Cincinnati thirty some minutes, right, and

1840
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 17: Cincinnati won anyway, So but yeah, they're they're they're good

1841
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 17: enough with Peterson in the lineup, playing, you know, thirty

1842
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 17: five minutes ish like a starter would to win the

1843
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 17: whole tournament. They've got that level of talent, but they

1844
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 17: need that, they need him to be that that's kind

1845
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 17: of a player that they can reliably count.

1846
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they get Houston at home tomorrow, then they

1847
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: go to Arizona later in the week. So, yeah, they've

1848
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 2: got the Big twelve. Is brutal. It's just a brutal

1849
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:31,560
Speaker 2: leg I think. I think, I don't know if you

1850
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 2: think this, well, I think it's the best basketball leg

1851
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 2: out there. Would you concur or on.

1852
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 17: The top of their league. They don't have the depth

1853
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 17: of say the Big ten or the se deep the

1854
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 17: depth of teams, but the top level teams in that

1855
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 17: league are as good as anybody. Yeah, it's not better.

1856
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 2: Jerry Palm. You can find them at palmbrackets dot com

1857
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 2: and it's always great catching up with you, Jerry. Hopefully

1858
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 2: we can do it again here real soon. Stay well, okay,

1859
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 2: we read every day, so stay well, all right, thanks,

1860
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: all right. Loved Jerry Palm. Loved him when he did

1861
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: the Big East the BCS. Remember he did the BCS

1862
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: rankings and all that. Jerry Palm. Yeah, I think I

1863
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 2: think the fact that you just don't have the resume

1864
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 2: at Miami is going to hurt them for seeding. But

1865
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: I've got a serious, I serious serious We believe that

1866
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: they're going to do some damage in that big in

1867
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 2: the in the in the NCAA Tournament. If they get in,

1868
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 2: then they can afford a loss at East Michigan. They

1869
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 2: can afford a loss at Ohio. You got to run

1870
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 2: the table low in the conference tournament. But right now

1871
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 2: there's no team in the country home and like them unbeaten.

1872
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 2: It is ten twenty no make it eleven twenty six.

1873
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Stand By will break down the USA Canada gold medal

1874
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: game with former NHL general manager Neil Smith in just

1875
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes on news Radio seven hundred wl

1876
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 2: W my Heart Radio.

1877
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 10: Courtina Will.

1878
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 2: Eleven, News Radio seven hundred W welw, Welcome back. I

1879
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 2: am ken Brew. Great to have you with us sterling

1880
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: in after the news at the top of the hour.

1881
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 2: He will take you right to Redgs Baseball later on

1882
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 2: today as the Reds take on the Marlins at three

1883
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: to five after their four to two loss in the

1884
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 2: EXE edition opener yesterday out in Goodyear, Arizona. We'll see

1885
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: exactly what transpires today in terms of pitching and who

1886
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 2: starts one. I know they want to get Suarez in Arroyo.

1887
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 2: A lot of at bats while with the team and

1888
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 2: a lot of playing time because the World Baseball Championships

1889
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 2: are coming up and a lot of these players are

1890
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 2: going to scatter, to be with their to be with

1891
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 2: their respective countries for that. So perhaps we'll see both

1892
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 2: of those in the lineup today, particularly Suarez, who, look,

1893
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 2: they didn't sign the guy for average, They signed him

1894
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 2: for power, and because of that, I don't think you're

1895
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 2: going to see a lot of two for four or

1896
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 2: three for five kinds of days from him. They signed

1897
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 2: him for the fly ball or the home run they

1898
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 2: need at various times in a baseball game. So again,

1899
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 2: all the play by play right here on seven hundred

1900
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 2: WYLW we are attempting to track down Neil Smith. Haven't

1901
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: had a lot of success at that. Hopefully he'll we

1902
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: can get him on the air to talk about the

1903
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: gold medal game today between the United States and Canada.

1904
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's forty six years to the day since

1905
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 2: the United States won the gold medal in the greatest

1906
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 2: event that I've ever witnessed in my history of covering sports,

1907
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 2: and that was the nineteen to eighty men's gold medal

1908
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: winning team. A lot of people think they beat the

1909
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Russians and that was the gold medal game.

1910
01:38:58,280 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 8: It was not.

1911
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 2: It was the semi final. They still had to come

1912
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 2: back and beat Finland. In the in the championship game

1913
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: that same year. But it was forty six years to

1914
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: the day today that they beat the Russians and that

1915
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 2: they got into that championship game, and now here we are,

1916
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 2: all these years later and they win the gold medal again,

1917
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 2: and it's it's interesting. Matt Boldi was on the team,

1918
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 2: and Boldi was somebody that you looked at and said, well,

1919
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 2: what exactly is he doing on this team? Yet he

1920
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: was the guy that came up with the first goal

1921
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 2: of the game. And it sounded like this on NBC

1922
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 2: Sports when you've been.

1923
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 17: That deficit off the Matt news beat the kennet to

1924
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 17: the punch, Boldie, look at the quick.

1925
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 2: Colt Baldy his guy, and Boldy got the first goal

1926
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 2: of the game. Canada came back and tied it, and

1927
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 2: then in overtime and this is this is really, you know,

1928
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 2: kind of a quirk of Olympic hockey. In overtime, it

1929
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 2: was three on three hockey and it was Jack Hughes

1930
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 2: who scored the game winner. The whole makeup of the

1931
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 2: team was interesting. Number One, the ice surface is different

1932
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: from what it was in Olympics past. The Olympics pass

1933
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: it was this wider ice surface. This was a tighter

1934
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 2: white ice surface, more in line with what the National

1935
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: Hockey Legue plays on. It was eighty five feet wide.

1936
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,839
Speaker 2: Normally in the National Hockey League it's a two hundred

1937
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: foot long ice surface. This was shorter by about three feet,

1938
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: and so the neutral zone or in between the blue

1939
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: lines was much shorter in this particular Olympics, and so

1940
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,560
Speaker 2: because of that, it seemed to be more of a

1941
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 2: lateral game than what it might normally have been. But

1942
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that the that the team

1943
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: that was put together by the general manager, Bill Garrin

1944
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 2: was chippy side. There were a lot of big stars

1945
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 2: in the NHL that were Americans that were left off

1946
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 2: this team. So we're gonna get Neil Smith in here.

1947
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 2: He was the general manager of the New York Rangers

1948
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 2: before they won their Stanley Cup in nineteen ninety four,

1949
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 2: put together the team and then went on and did

1950
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 2: other things in the NHL with the Islanders, and a

1951
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: very long time ago he was the owner of the

1952
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: ECHL franchise in Johnstown. And if I'm not mistaken, and

1953
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,560
Speaker 2: we'll confirm that with Neil, he actually coached against the

1954
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Cyclones. Well, we'll get all of that right now.

1955
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 2: Neil Smith, how are you on this glorious Sunday. I'm

1956
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 2: very good.

1957
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 20: Thanks, how are you?

1958
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm well, let's get into this game. You know, the

1959
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 2: United States to me had a really gritty, chippy side

1960
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: all these Olympics, and there were a lot of you know,

1961
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:55,480
Speaker 2: high scoring Americans Jason Roberts and Adam Fox, Cole Cwfield,

1962
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 2: even Chris Kreider that were left off the team for

1963
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 2: these role play players that Bill Garren, the general managers,

1964
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 2: seem to have wanted interesting strategy, but ultimately it pays

1965
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 2: off correct.

1966
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, you know for sure. And the team, you know,

1967
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 20: is built in a way that you need a little

1968
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 20: bit of everything ingredients wise, and so therefore I'm sure

1969
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 20: Billy was looking to build the best team that he

1970
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 20: could but have be able to withstand the physicality as

1971
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 20: well as being able to score goals.

1972
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously, you know, there's there's a synergy that

1973
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 2: is built when you put any team together. But you're

1974
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 2: bringing together players that were at it in some cases

1975
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: at each other's throats two or three weeks ago. Now

1976
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they're teammates. How does that work?

1977
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: How does that work? I mean, I mean professionals are professionals, sure,

1978
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 2: but I mean human beings being human beings, How does

1979
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 2: all that work?

1980
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 20: I think that it's just the hockey players are used

1981
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 20: to that. They've been going through that their whole life.

1982
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 20: That they've been, you know, for example, against each other

1983
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,759
Speaker 20: in college, and then suddenly they're together in the pros

1984
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 20: or they've been having to play against one another. I mean,

1985
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 20: if you take, for example, the brock Nelson, who's outstanding

1986
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 20: I thought for the Americans, he's a teammate with Cale

1987
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 20: mccarr and Nathan McKinnon and Devon Taves that all played

1988
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 20: for Canada. So you know, while he's wanting the best

1989
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 20: he can to win for his country, you know, now

1990
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 20: starting tomorrow again, he's part of the Colorado Avalanche, and

1991
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 20: those guys all have to play together, and they will

1992
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 20: because there's a friendly rivalry between hockey players all the

1993
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 20: time about this stuff. They're even in the World junior

1994
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 20: when they're playing pro, they're still cheering for their country's

1995
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 20: team and rasing each other in the locker room.

1996
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 2: The other thing I noticed about this roster Neil back

1997
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: in eighty it was basically Boston guys and Minnesota guys,

1998
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 2: with a sprinkling maybe to come guys from Wisconsin. This

1999
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,759
Speaker 2: roster certainly has Minnesota and Massachusetts, but it has players

2000
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:12,480
Speaker 2: from Scottsdale, New York, right here in Ohio, East Palestine.

2001
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 17: J T.

2002
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 2: Miller from East Palestine. You got Alaska guys, in Saint

2003
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 2: Louis guys, and even a Pittsburgh guy on this team.

2004
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 2: I think it speaks to the growth of hockey in

2005
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: the last forty six years, how it's really grown at

2006
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 2: the grassroots level, and it's reflective I think in this

2007
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 2: roster for the United States. Would you agree, absolutely would

2008
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 2: agree with that.

2009
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 20: The team that was built by Herb Brooks, of course

2010
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 20: was all amateurs and the players that he could get

2011
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 20: were the best college players available, and he did that,

2012
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 20: but those were normally the colleges were in Minnesota and

2013
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 20: the Boston area, where the powerhouses of college hockey and

2014
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:58,759
Speaker 20: American players. And with that nineteen eighty victory really spurred

2015
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 20: a whole generation of young people that to play hockey

2016
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 20: that perhaps wouldn't have thought about it had that not

2017
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 20: been such a great moment for the USA. So I

2018
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 20: totally agree that the players that are on this team

2019
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 20: are spread out all over from all over the country,

2020
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 20: and in the NHL there's players from every part of

2021
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,560
Speaker 20: North America now, and I think that's all due to

2022
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 20: the popularity of the game, which stems back to that

2023
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 20: in nineteen eighty victory.

2024
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even if you take it to the women's side,

2025
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 2: women's hockey in nineteen eighty, it was there, it was

2026
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 2: certainly not to any great degree and certainly not to

2027
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 2: the degree that it is right now, And that was

2028
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 2: all part of that, I think as well. I mean,

2029
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 2: you know, I think a lot of women. Title nine

2030
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 2: has certainly helped, but a lot of women looked at

2031
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 2: what the memory, Hey, we can do that too, let's

2032
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 2: you know, let's give it a try here, and you

2033
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 2: have as we saw in these Olympics, we saw some

2034
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 2: phenomenal women's hockey players and of course a gold medal

2035
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 2: for the United States. So what's grown on both sides

2036
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 2: of the gender equation? Has it not?

2037
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2038
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,560
Speaker 20: It has, And I think the sport has just grown exponentially.

2039
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 20: And don't forget too that when the nineteen eighty gold

2040
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 20: medal was won, there are a lot less teams in

2041
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 20: the NHL. I think there were at the eighteen I believe,

2042
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 20: but I may be off on that. But now there's

2043
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 20: thirty two. So you get kids watching the San Jose

2044
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,799
Speaker 20: Sharks for example, that want to play and want.

2045
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 2: To be like them.

2046
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 20: You get them watching the Anaheim Ducks as another example,

2047
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 20: and they perhaps want to be a hockey player. And

2048
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 20: that isn't just males. I think that's females as well.

2049
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 20: So the sport has really grown, and you got to

2050
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 20: give credit to a lot of these expansion teams having

2051
01:46:54,840 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 20: found a home that back to the nineteen Eightylympics, and

2052
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 20: also you know Wayne Gretzky going to the La Kings

2053
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 20: back in the late eighties also spurred a lot of

2054
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 20: hockey development in that California.

2055
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 17: Are sure?

2056
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 2: I mean you really have to be a dreamer back

2057
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty to envision a team in Salt Lake

2058
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 2: City or Tampa or Las Vegas. I mean it's pretty wild.

2059
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 2: I don't know whether this was Gary Bettman, I don't

2060
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 2: know whose idea was, but there's four nations that we

2061
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 2: had last year. I think they're set up right now

2062
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: in hockey for a terrific run. If you did the

2063
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: four Nations every other year and then you have the

2064
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: Olympics every four years, I think you've got yourself really

2065
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: great international competition I would love to see. I don't

2066
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 2: even know if there's plans for four Nations going forward.

2067
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 2: I would hope there would be. But I mean, you know,

2068
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 2: every two years, you have four Nations, every four years,

2069
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 2: you have the Olympics. All of a sudden, you're highlighting

2070
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 2: great players you might not see on a consistent basis

2071
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 2: in the National Hockey League. I think I think it's ingenius.

2072
01:47:58,280 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 2: I really do.

2073
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2074
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 20: And you know, when the four Nations tournament was announced,

2075
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 20: we had no idea what we were getting. Were we

2076
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 20: going to get soft play like an All Star game,

2077
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 20: or were we going to get really competitive games? And

2078
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 20: I got to say, I love that four Nations tournament.

2079
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 20: I thought it was fantastic, as I did with these Olympics.

2080
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 20: And I think you're right, I can't argue one bit

2081
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 20: with great if every two years we got four Nations

2082
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 20: tournament and then, as you said, obviously we're going to

2083
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 20: see every four and Olympics, and so it would give

2084
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 20: us this great international hockey that you know, it's sort

2085
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 20: of like saying, if you're back to six teams again,

2086
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 20: that's how the games would be because there's so many

2087
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 20: great players in the game now and it really truly

2088
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 20: is the best on best.

2089
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Neil Smith our guest. He is former

2090
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: NHL general manager with the Rangers, with the Islanders. Am

2091
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 2: I right? Years ago? You owned the Johnstown franchise and

2092
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 2: you coached against the Cincinnati Cyclones.

2093
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 17: I did.

2094
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 20: I did in the last half of the last season

2095
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 20: they were there, that was oh nine to ten, and

2096
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 20: I did coach against Cincinnati.

2097
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 17: That was a tough place to play.

2098
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,799
Speaker 20: Cincinnati always had a good team and we weren't so fortunate.

2099
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I thought that was the case.

2100
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 16: You know.

2101
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 2: Honestly, our lineage here in hockey is pretty We had

2102
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 2: Messier before you had Messia in New York. His first

2103
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: professional goal was scored here in Cincinnati.

2104
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 20: I know, I've seen, you know what. I've seen his

2105
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 20: picture in the Cincinnati Stingers.

2106
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 17: Jersey, and he also played a little bit.

2107
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 20: In Indianapolis, because I've seen that picture. But you know,

2108
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 20: it was great for him as an Edmonton native to

2109
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 20: have his heroics done mostly in Edmonton because that's his hometown.

2110
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 2: As you put that team together in it began long

2111
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 2: before ninety four, What was your what was your philosophy?

2112
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 2: What were you looking for? Besides great players? Were you

2113
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 2: looking for? Maybe not any different than what Bill garn

2114
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 2: went through putting an Olympic team together this year? What

2115
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 2: were you looking for?

2116
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 20: Well, at that time, you were trying to change the

2117
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,759
Speaker 20: culture of the Rangers, because the culture was they didn't

2118
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 20: expect to win, and you wanted to bring in people

2119
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 20: that expected to win, because I knew that's the only

2120
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 20: way you were going to win. So the biggest trade,

2121
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 20: of course, that I made was in ninety one when

2122
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 20: I brought in Messi and he changed the culture of

2123
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 20: the team. And then we were lucky enough to be

2124
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 20: able to add some other pieces as we went along,

2125
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 20: and a lot of other guys that had won Stanley Cups.

2126
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 20: So really, what you were looking what I was looking

2127
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 20: for at that time. I knew the components that it

2128
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 20: took for a complete team, the toughness, the skill, the

2129
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 20: goal scoring, the defensive game, the goaltending. But I know

2130
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 20: you need guys in the locker room that would rather

2131
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 20: die than lose. And that's the mess Yer.

2132
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 17: Quotion that he brought.

2133
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 2: It's one of the great one of the great constructions

2134
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 2: of a roster ever in professional hockey. Listen, Neil, you're

2135
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 2: kind to give us some time here today again two

2136
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 2: to one USA over Canada and overtime. Great great Olympics

2137
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 2: on all levels for hockey, and hopefully we can visit

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Speaker 2: again soon. Neil, Stay well and thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 17: No, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Take care you bet Neil Smith, former NHLGM two to

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Speaker 2: one USA wins the gold in men's hockey, just like

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Speaker 2: they did in women's hockey. We are now in the

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Speaker 2: United States, the hockey capital of the world, at least

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Speaker 2: for today. It's eleven fifty four in the Tri State.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ken Bruce seven hundred a w l W pease ball.

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Speaker 2: He's back.

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Speaker 18: Get the Libs and Mariners today at two thirty five

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Speaker 18: pm on seven hundred WLW or stream for free on

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Speaker 18: the new and improved iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: You know it's a great data. Head on down a

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Speaker 2: little Miami. When is it a bad day today? If

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Speaker 2: you go down there, they'll have up on the big

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Speaker 2: screens golf, basketball, and you can also enjoy my pick

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Speaker 2: beer of the week, River Dog Blueberry Sour. Now, listen,

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Speaker 2: this is a blueberry sour that it's easy to sip

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Speaker 2: while you relax and enjoy a comfortable Sunday. A little

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Speaker 2: tardness and a little sweetness too. By the way, if

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Speaker 2: you go to Little Miami Brewing on Tuesday you say

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Speaker 2: I want Ken brewce Pick beer, They're gonna give you

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Speaker 2: two dollars off two dollars off on Tuesday and pairrot

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Speaker 2: with their new pizza for Lent. The Shrimp Delicious Pizza

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01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 2: is back tied chili sauce, bace mozzarell, seasoned shrimp, red onions,

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Speaker 2: and fresh basil. Hey might want to get shrimp tacos

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Speaker 2: or clam chowder as well. Little Miami Brewing in the

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Speaker 2: heart of downtown historic Milford.

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Speaker 10: Would the headlines are enough, go deeper, all the struggles,

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Speaker 10: all the hard ache,