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Speaker 2: It's nine o'clock and I'm Paul Allen, your Minnesota Wild.

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Speaker 2: You know there are no l's in the name Winnipeg Jets,

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Speaker 2: but definitely one in the word wild.

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Speaker 1: Hanson at the offensive boul line muscled at right wing wall.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Hartman takes a look for the while to the

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Speaker 3: left point Rossie in.

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Speaker 1: The wheelhouse of favor a risk shot.

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Speaker 3: Hell about the same as looks this guy.

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Speaker 2: Damn the man, Dan the Man is on the fan

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Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: He's the box for these guys. Share it with five

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Speaker 1: of the play clock. Takes the ball back and looking

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Speaker 1: throwing into.

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Speaker 4: This rotate Brown He's talk baby head fine he touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions come to Saint Brown. Twenty seven yards of

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Speaker 1: the Lions strike first.

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Speaker 2: Dan Miller played by play voice for the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 2: the foes, the adversaries, the opponents for your Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Sunday at noon, FM one one hundred point three kfam

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Speaker 2: and a quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. It's JJ season

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Speaker 2: again and mad producers excited. First and ten from the

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Speaker 2: twenty seven of the Bears, McCarthy out of the shotgun.

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Speaker 1: Let's have gone it picked up McCarthy looks the Jones Tuck.

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Speaker 2: Showtime and the Minnesota Vikings have taken on one point lead.

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Speaker 1: Tin Cheat tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Jan Hassen gets the feast Friday, and it's all good

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Speaker 2: in the hood this Wednesday. And good morning, Parker Fox,

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Speaker 2: as I stopped by the nine to noon Stable, Good

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Speaker 2: morning young man.

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Speaker 1: Good morning Yea. So here we go for you and Nordo.

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Speaker 2: It's called hyperbolic or hyper accurate, and here they are.

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Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs have emerged as Super Bowl favorites

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Speaker 2: at four and a half to one. The Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs Super all favorites to win it four and after

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Speaker 2: one and absolutely are the best team in the NFL. Parker,

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Speaker 2: you're the guest go first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean Patrick Mahomes is playing at an unbelievable level

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Speaker 5: right now. I'm lucky to have him on my fantasy team, obviously,

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Speaker 5: and I think that's right. We've seen a couple early

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Speaker 5: good teams, but I really like this Chiefs team.

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Speaker 2: So Parker Fox says, the Chiefs absolutely being the best

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL is a hyper accurate statement.

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Speaker 1: Hyper accurate. What about Matt Producer, They got the best

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Speaker 1: defense in the division.

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Speaker 4: They got Rashi Rice back, They're figuring out how to

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Speaker 4: run it a little bit more. They are back. They

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Speaker 4: are after the weird start. They are the best team

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. They should be considered despite a tough

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Speaker 4: division and a tougher conference. Really, they are the best

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Speaker 4: team in the NFL right now. Hyperbolic or hyper accurate.

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Speaker 4: Green Bay absolutely is the best in the NFC and

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Speaker 4: actually is a great bet to win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: at seven to one.

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Speaker 5: Hyperbolic, I like this Lions team. Hyperbolic, Mica or Hollick.

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Speaker 5: I like the Lions team. I really do. I think

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Speaker 5: they have so many weapons on the offensive side of

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Speaker 5: the football. They got a deep threat in Jamison Williams.

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Speaker 5: They have mister steady and mister consistent. And I'm on raw,

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Speaker 5: you had a great tight end in the porta Jared

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Speaker 5: Goffs playing at a high rate, Montgomery and Gibbs in

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Speaker 5: the backfield. Like, that's a great offense behind a really

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Speaker 5: good offensive line as well. So give me the Lions there.

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Speaker 6: You can't talk that way and take it seriously, is Sureger?

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Speaker 4: The Green Bay Packers are the best team in the

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Speaker 4: NFC right now. The Green Bay Packers are absolutely the

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Speaker 4: best team in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: They got the.

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Speaker 4: QB when the brights are when the lights are bright,

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Speaker 4: playing as well as any quarterback in the NFL. The

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Speaker 4: defense is absolutely shutting people down save for that cow

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Speaker 4: Boys game, hence the weird tie in the record, and

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Speaker 4: they're the team that has figured out how to truly

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Speaker 4: shut down that Kiddies offense. I'll be a week one

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Speaker 4: As of this particular moment, they are the best team

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Speaker 4: in the NFC, and I would never do it because

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Speaker 4: I mean, I respect myself as a Vikings fan. Seven

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Speaker 4: to one, some people can probably place a wager seven

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Speaker 4: to one on that awful, ugly colored franchise, the Green

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Speaker 4: and Gold, that they are to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you put your pants back here?

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Speaker 2: I'm here as Parker, you identified the Motor City Kiddies

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Speaker 2: as the best in the NFC. Here's some what I

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Speaker 2: think is interesting minutia for you. This Lion's offense, the

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Speaker 2: fan has learned they do everything from all angles.

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Speaker 1: That's about the only way to put it.

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson or new offensive coordinator guy whose name is

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Speaker 2: eluding me, so I'll just call him Jim Bob Cooter

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Speaker 2: like they have this receiver Isaac Tesla, Yeah, rookie from Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: Third rounder John Morton, the New Age. John Morton has

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Speaker 2: three catches this year, two or for touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you put your pants back on slappy?

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 2: Left tackle Taylor Decker, tenth year Ohio State has two

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Speaker 2: receiving touchdowns in his career.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you put your pants back on slappy now?

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Speaker 1: Pinay Seoul their right tackle. How about this?

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Speaker 2: Piney Soul has played a has played seven. There have

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Speaker 2: been seventy five possible regular season games since he entered

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Speaker 2: the NFL five years ago.

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Speaker 1: First round pick from Oregon, he's played seventy four.

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Speaker 2: So like one of the best offensive linemen in the

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Speaker 2: NFL period.

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Speaker 1: That's cool, all right, man?

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Speaker 2: So you have one reception in your career that's a

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Speaker 2: nine yard first down versus the Vikings in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: That's super special.

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Speaker 2: So but I mean you must get banged up a

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Speaker 2: little bit, right, I mean, like, like all all offensive

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Speaker 2: linemen get banged up every so often. He's played seventy

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, even if he did get banged up,

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Speaker 5: you know, Dan Skipper sitting right there to come in

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Speaker 2: Dan not too bad either, huh, Dan Skipper, you say

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Speaker 2: they're extra offensive lineman. He has two receptions in his career.

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Speaker 2: He's an offensive lineman. Two receptions in his career, and

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Speaker 2: he scored a touchdown in twenty twenty four versus the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. In fact, old Ben Johnson, coach of the Bears,

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Speaker 2: as the kids would say, he was in his bag

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. You got the Dan Skipper touchdown.

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Speaker 2: You also that same year last year had a passing

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Speaker 1: Just clowning on people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this game should be on Halloween and like

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Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs should wear some type of some type of

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Speaker 2: slasher costume. He has seven touchdowns this year. He has

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Speaker 2: nine touchdowns in his last four versus Minnesota. He scored

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Speaker 2: twenty touchdowns last year, sixteen rushing for receiving, and in

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Speaker 2: went for one thirty nine and four touchdowns in the

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Speaker 2: big moment Man he is so so good, Hannah. They're

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Speaker 2: punter jack box. He's had zero punts blocked in three

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen punts since he came into the.

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Speaker 1: NFL, that includes the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So it's time for the Minnesota Vikings to block a

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Speaker 2: punt this weekend, wouldn't you say?

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Speaker 5: I would say that. And you can't forget about the

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Speaker 5: Lions defense as well. Over the last five six games,

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Speaker 5: seven three to four sacks, So they're getting They're getting

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Speaker 5: to the quarterback the way the Vikings offensive line has looked,

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Speaker 5: that's going to find JJ in some difficult places.

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Speaker 2: I assume Aiden Hutchinson, Oh fantastic, there's four interceptions in

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Speaker 2: his career. Does he really four interceptions and he has

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Speaker 2: six sacks and four forced fumbles this year?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't he have a defensive touchdown or two as well?

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Speaker 1: I'm quite positive I doubt it. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe he has any touchdowns. I think zero

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Speaker 2: touchdowns for Aiden Hutchinson, but that can be fact checked.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, zero touchdowns, but making plays all over the field.

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Speaker 5: Nine and a half sacks this first year, eleven and

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Speaker 5: a half his second year. I already have to six

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Speaker 5: this year. Hyperbolic or hyper accurate for P. Fox and E.

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Speaker 2: Nord's with games at Detroit and Baltimore, the Baltimore game

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Speaker 2: being here at Detroit Baltimore here after that, the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Vikings absolutely are sitting on a four game losing streak.

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Speaker 4: Hyperbolic or hyper accurate? Boys, Nor do you want to

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Speaker 4: start with this one? Well, here's what I'll say. Is

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Speaker 4: JJ season. Well, first of all, it's JJ season and

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Speaker 4: that's what matters. Well, I mean, winning games matters, but

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Speaker 4: JJ season, indeed, I think that's hyperbolic at this stage.

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Speaker 4: When the Ravens, when the Ravens with Lamar Jackson come

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Speaker 4: to town in a couple of weeks, they are going

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Speaker 4: to have They're going to have their swerve, They're going

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Speaker 4: to have their groove back, particularly with King Henry and

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Speaker 4: having Lamar back in there and what he can do.

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Speaker 4: We've seen the Vikings defense against mobile QBS ain't gonna

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Speaker 4: be pretty at times, There's no doubt about it. However,

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Speaker 4: that defense is atrocious VA and while they slowly get healthy,

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Speaker 4: the one name that everyone has kind of forgotten about,

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Speaker 4: and part of it is because it's very difficult to pronounce.

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Speaker 4: I believe it's Mattabuque, him being gone one for the year.

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Speaker 4: We can try and get healthy in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: We can do some things.

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Speaker 4: They have Kyle Hamilton, we can talk about not drafting

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Speaker 4: him all day and distract ourselves with those sorts of things.

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Speaker 4: That defense has been absolutely awful all season long, and

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Speaker 4: it's not on pace to get better.

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Speaker 1: Pa. So this Kiddi's one is going to be difficult.

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Speaker 4: I still think even at this stage, down and out

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Speaker 4: underdogs that we are, I still think it's super hyperbolic

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Speaker 4: to just dagger us. We could we could lose both,

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Speaker 4: But I think it's a little hyperbolic to daggerous on

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Speaker 4: a losing streak like that, or is.

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Speaker 2: It hyper accurate off two consecutive losses? And now they

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Speaker 2: go to ford Field nine point dogs, then they come

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Speaker 2: home for the Ravens. Depending on what happens in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the high road and go hyperbolic.

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Speaker 5: Although I don't love this week. I think it's a

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Speaker 5: difficult one. On the road Ford Field, JJ's first game back.

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Speaker 5: Who knows what the defense is gonna throw out there.

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Speaker 5: But I do think we come back home. JJ gets

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Speaker 5: and he gets us a win. Like like Noro said,

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Speaker 5: this has been a terrible Ravens defense looking at some

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Speaker 5: of their numbers, giving up forty one, forty one, thirty eight,

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Speaker 5: thirty seven, forty four.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you.

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Speaker 5: Can't score the football against them, it's going to be difficult. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: But if we can score the football against him, I

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Speaker 5: think Lamar is obviously going to march down the field

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Speaker 5: and score the ball. It's going to be a shootout.

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Speaker 5: But I get the Vikes by a field goal.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at this stage we can play the hyperbolic,

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Speaker 4: hyper accurate game. Is it hyperbolic or hyper accurate that

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Speaker 4: JJ will absolutely play the final ten games of the

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Speaker 4: season in totality?

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. What, Well, now you're starting to get personal.

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Speaker 4: Why not even take the field for the next two games.

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Speaker 4: I can't sit here and go absolutely, they're going to

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Speaker 4: get there. The field is going to be waxed with

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Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings over the next couple of weeks, and

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Speaker 4: we're going to endure trials of the hilt for the

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Speaker 4: remainder of twenty twenty five. I just can't think it's

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Speaker 1: Yours truly.

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Speaker 2: Hyperbolic or hype we're accurate, and we have time for

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Speaker 2: What you got, Pete Fox, Oh, that's hyperbolic. Come on,

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Speaker 2: The Minnesota Wild to close, Thank you, Saint Paul. Hyperbolic

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Saint Paul, Welcome to your home for Wild

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Speaker 4: Hockey the Fan. I think it's I think it's hyperbolic

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Speaker 1: For the better.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, Miss Lincoln, how was the play?

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Speaker 4: twenty three, the Vikings were two and seven when they

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Speaker 4: ran the ball fewer than twenty three times to twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. Last year, I mean they won fourteen. However,

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Speaker 4: they were one and three when they rushed the ball

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Speaker 4: for fewer than twenty three times. And so far this

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Speaker 4: year PA, they are three and one when they run

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Speaker 4: the ball twenty three or more. They are zero and

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Speaker 4: three when they run the ball fewer than twenty three

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Speaker 4: times in a game. My question to you would be simply,

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Speaker 4: am I oversimplifying that? Or is there something to the

447
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Speaker 4: idea that again never going to be fifty to fifty?

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Speaker 4: That's not necessarily what the idea of balance is about.

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Speaker 4: But there does, indeed have to be a greater focus

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Speaker 4: in establishing the run, finding ways to get consistent, efficient

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Speaker 4: production out of Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones moving forward,

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Speaker 4: not just to help the QB, but to help the

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Speaker 4: team win games. Based on three seasons and seven games

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Speaker 4: of evidence to that point.

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Speaker 2: My qualifiers would be in the games where they're running

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Speaker 2: fewer than twenty three, what's the score early in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, how far are they behind, Like in games

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Speaker 2: that you get down I don't know, ten, fourteen, seventeen,

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Speaker 2: something like that and you got to throw to get back.

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Speaker 2: I think that would factor into it. With this year,

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Speaker 2: what would factor into it the sixteen different offensive line

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Speaker 2: combinations they've used, plus Jones being hurt. Other side of it,

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Speaker 2: the meshing of the run in the pass, specifically the

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Speaker 2: meshing of it inside the twenty still very much at

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Speaker 2: times appears to be a work in progress. So the

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Speaker 2: coach is going to throw before he's going to run

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Speaker 2: six out of ten times, six point two out of

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Speaker 2: ten times. Maybe that's how his DNA is wired. And

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Speaker 2: the best players are generally the wide receivers in Justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson and Jordan Addison. Now a lot of that statistical

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Speaker 2: equity would involve veteran quarterbacks like Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: So that plays in do it too when you have

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Speaker 2: inexperienced quarterbacks or like Wentz as a veteran, but he

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Speaker 2: hadn't started many games in the last two three four years,

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Speaker 2: so the you know, the the inexperience with the new

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Speaker 2: role here would play opposite of Cousins or Darnold once

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Speaker 2: they got up to speed. Now with McCarthy, you know

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Speaker 2: that that's we're talking about a third start here. So

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Speaker 2: the best way to take heat off a new quarterback,

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Speaker 2: specifically a twenty two year old quarterback, is to establish

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Speaker 2: a formidable running game. Another opportunity is in front of

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Speaker 2: them Sunday at noon on KFA N Bikes Bikes.

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Speaker 4: Some consternation regarding new faces on the Minnesota Vikings this year,

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Speaker 4: specifically Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, well, feedback there?

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Speaker 4: Uh the you mentioned yesterday Pa Whin we're at TCO

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Speaker 4: that there's there's something the tide is turning for a

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Speaker 4: former member of the Crimson Tide, Nathan Allen, specifically with

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Speaker 4: Javon Hargrave. You were talking with Parker last segment. You're

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Speaker 4: lauding Taylor Decker as you should, You're lauding pinay sewell

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Speaker 4: as you should. But the middle of this, the middle

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Speaker 4: of this offensive line not necessarily all pro laden. And

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious if this is a good weekend in

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Speaker 4: your mindset, whether it's figuring out how to beat Christian Mahogany,

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Speaker 4: who can be beaten. And we saw the Buccaneers, albeit

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Speaker 4: in a primetime loss prior to the buy against the Lions,

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Speaker 4: they found some success there and frustrated Golf at times,

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Speaker 4: and then Gibbs gets loose for seventy eight and I

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Speaker 4: guess it didn't matter. But all the same, whether it's Ratledge, Graham,

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Speaker 4: Glasgow working his way into center, they have had on

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Speaker 4: the interior, not the injuries that the Vikings have, but

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Speaker 4: they've had the uncertainty on the interior of that line

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. Is this potentially one of those

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Speaker 4: games where you say, if not now when for a

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Speaker 4: Javon Hargrave bust out performance.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a little highbolic because they're ten left,

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Speaker 2: so that there are plenty of opportunities to fly in

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Speaker 2: the face of something that I guess I just assumed

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Speaker 2: was going to take place into the season, that Javon

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Speaker 2: Hargrave was going to be a three down guy, that

511
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Speaker 2: he was going to be play three downs in series

512
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Speaker 2: more than he has. So Mahogany is making his ninth

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Speaker 2: start this weekend, and he's a lot better. He's a

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Speaker 2: lot better and a lot bigger than I thought he was.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't really remember him second year, Boston College, six round

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Speaker 2: pick Glasgow. As the game gets longer, Glasgow gets more beatable.

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Speaker 2: Tenth year from Michigan. Still he's still, you know, a

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Speaker 2: rough and tumble offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: He's tough, but as.

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Speaker 2: The game gets as the game continues, that could be

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Speaker 2: a spot that you could take advantage of. And Tate

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Speaker 2: Rattledge is having a good rookie season, second round pick

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Speaker 2: from Georgia. And and when you have when you play

524
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Speaker 2: next see from a hogany playing next to Decker and

525
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Speaker 2: ratledg'e playing next to Pinay Seoul. That really takes heat

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Speaker 2: off those two youngsters because of the way they can

527
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Speaker 2: craft things. Uh, the the Lions, they they don't run

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Speaker 2: between the tackles a lot. They don't do it a ton.

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Speaker 1: It's more short yards with Montgomery, right, Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: when when the Lions.

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Speaker 2: When I watched the Lions run between the tackles, it's

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Speaker 2: basically because Dan Campbell was driving home after a home

533
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Speaker 2: game and he heard some roube from from Westland, Michigan

534
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Speaker 2: complaining they don't run between the tackles enough. I always

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Speaker 2: love that one. So he's like, I'm just gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's just do it twice, all right. Even though everything

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Speaker 2: we do between the hash marks and the numbers makes

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Speaker 2: us money, everything we do outside the numbers makes everybody money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Gibbs to the boundary we got.

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Speaker 2: We got Michael from Westland just constantly complaining on Lions

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Speaker 2: Fan Line week after week. We don't run between the tackles.

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Speaker 2: So David just go ahead and do it.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Nick and Nova, Welcome to Lions fan Line.

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Speaker 4: Final vike by for you is whether it's the defensive

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Speaker 4: coordinator we heard from Kevin O'Connell yesterday with us he

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Speaker 4: will be addressing the media as well, but whether it's

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Speaker 4: whether it's with Brian Flores in what he's looking at

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Speaker 4: post Chargers into the Lions game. Wes Phillips potentially getting

549
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Speaker 4: to hear from a Carson Wentz if that comes through

550
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Speaker 4: and he hops on a mic. What is it that

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Speaker 4: is intriguing you from their perspective as we talk about

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Speaker 4: turning the page, is there something specifically you want to

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Speaker 4: hear from the Vikings coaching staff that they're turning the

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Speaker 4: page on as we move.

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Speaker 1: Forward to the kiddies game.

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Speaker 2: Well, the I want to see Andrew van Genkol go

557
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Speaker 2: full fall fall with practices this week because that means

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Speaker 2: he absolutely will play. So that means if you have

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Speaker 2: those two, you have Cashman purportedly Hargrave and John Nathan

560
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Speaker 2: Allen plus plus Byron Murphy Junior and Isaiah Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: You and Jalen Redmond.

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Speaker 2: Those are the most key players that you have for

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Speaker 2: your defense. So like the Vikings had a majority of

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Speaker 2: their key players against the Lions at Fordfield in the

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Speaker 2: final game of the season last year before the playoff

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Speaker 2: loss to the La Rams. And Jared Goff. You know,

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff has torn up the Minnesota Vikings all of

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Speaker 2: his career. In fact, the Vikings have given up two

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Speaker 2: perfect passer ratings in the history of the team. One

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Speaker 2: took place a couple of weeks ago to Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: The other Jared Goff on Thursday Night Football when he

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Speaker 2: was with the La Rams. And in his two games

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Speaker 2: against the Vikings last year, Jared Goff completed eighty four

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Speaker 2: percent of his passes. That's unbelievable. So, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: not like the longest stuff in the world. Chains move,

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Speaker 2: chains move, chains move. Then all of a sudden, because

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Speaker 2: you have Alex from Ann Arbor complaining that they never

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Speaker 2: throw deep to Jamison Williams. I always love that one.

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, here's an Alliance fan line. So he'll just,

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Speaker 2: you know, haphazardly throw one deep to Williams incomplete second

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Speaker 2: and ten. Then they go back and do what they do,

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Speaker 2: that short stuff to lo Porta rock. Right, I'm and

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Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown, Khalif Raymond here and there and Jamison

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Speaker 2: Williams on slants.

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Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this then, So we look

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Speaker 4: at the Phillies games one and six in the red

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Speaker 4: zone is unacceptable, but the QB gets a perfect passer rating.

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Speaker 4: Could you look at that similarly in that Kiddies game

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Speaker 4: a year ago and say the four in the red

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Speaker 4: zone O three in gold to go situations.

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Speaker 1: What a disaster that was inside the twenty that night.

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Speaker 1: That's bad. That was the last game of the year.

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Speaker 4: That was the yeah, the finale in primetime, number one

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Speaker 4: seed on the line. My point is is we were

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Speaker 4: awful in the red zone. You remember Darnold and missing

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Speaker 4: guys open and all that.

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Speaker 2: I would contend Darnold was awful in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: The other ten were fine.

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Speaker 4: Okay perfect, But to that end, one of six in

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Speaker 4: red zone against the Eagles, perfect passer rating for Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 4: Now you have what you mentioned, Jared Goff, and that

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Speaker 4: kiddies offense lighten it up in primetime while we go

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Speaker 4: impotent in the red zone, which is a bigger factor

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Speaker 4: in each of those games. The fact that we were

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Speaker 4: never able to stop the kiddies similarly to not stopping

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts or is it indeed in the end, we

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Speaker 4: were at the doorstep and we wouldn't walk in the latter.

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Speaker 1: The Lions were ripe for the beating that day.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't believe me, then ask the Washington

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Speaker 2: Commanders two weeks later who killed them. Yeah, the Lions

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Speaker 2: were there for the taking in that final regular season

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Speaker 2: game and the quarterback missed five touchdown passes and that's fact.

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Speaker 2: That's the only way to look at it. So they

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Speaker 2: were there for the beating. That was last year. This

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Speaker 2: is different now. They're five and two, three and zero

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Speaker 2: at home, they lost to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of lopsided. You even though they only

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Speaker 1: lost by.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen and I they still don't believe they're as good

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Speaker 2: as they were last year in the regular season when

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Speaker 2: they when they were when they were going great guns.

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Speaker 2: But they're still very good, and they're off of buy

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Speaker 2: and they get their safeties back, and they got Dan

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Speaker 2: Skipper now playing his third game. All is good in

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Speaker 2: their neighborhood. And we will see if everything is good

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Speaker 2: with Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk dot com p

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Speaker 2: f T p f T Radio next via nine to

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Speaker 2: noon at FM one hundred point three k f A

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Speaker 2: n Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk dot Com and author

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Speaker 2: of several books, including Father of Mine and Big Shield,

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Speaker 2: which is a fiction piece about gambling and sports, and

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Speaker 2: Mike joh gambling and football that is. And Mike joins us.

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Speaker 2: Now see you know, since since you conceived and or

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Speaker 2: wrote Big Shield, all right, I mean, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 2: more here, Mike, but we've had John Tay Porter and

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Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors show a Otani and the interpreter, a

637
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Speaker 2: bunch of college sports gambling allegations, and of late this

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Speaker 2: massive NBA meets FBI related kerfuffle. I mean, you time

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Speaker 2: that one up about as well as one can.

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Speaker 3: And good morning, well, good morning, and look I have

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Speaker 3: sensed ever since the moment the US Supreme Court in

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Speaker 3: May of twenty eighteen opened the floodgates for state by

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Speaker 3: state legalized sports betting programs. I was concerned that there

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Speaker 3: would be a scandal, and the question is when does

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Speaker 3: it arrive for the NFL and how many lessons can

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Speaker 3: the NFL learn vicariously before it has to deal with

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Speaker 3: its own reckoning. And that was the benefit of last

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Speaker 3: week's developments, the Terrorosier situation, which became the biggest story

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Speaker 3: in all of sports when you tie it with the

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Speaker 3: really specific and bizarre allegations of rig poker games where

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Speaker 3: Portland Trailblazer's coach Chauncey Billips was a so called face

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Speaker 3: card used to attract fish to the game where they

653
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: were then swindled out of their cash. That I think

654
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: fueled it to a higher level because at its core,

655
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: ter Rozier no different from what happened with Johntay Porter.

656
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 3: And actually Big Shield has a storyline involving a fictional

657
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: basketball player in a pro basketball league that is not

658
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: the NBA that does the same stuff that Terry Rozier did.

659
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: Now there's more to it, there's more details to it,

660
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: and there's more wrinkles to it. He leaves a game

661
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: pursuant to a plan that was in place with his

662
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: mob handler, and then he gets freaked out because the

663
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: doctor looks at him weird. SOO he goes back in

664
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: the game and the monster has to sweat out whether

665
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: or not he's going to hit his overs, and he

666
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: almost does, and then that sparks another reaction and more

667
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: storylines and etc. But that's in there too. There's a

668
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: baseball player who's in the book a basketball player, and

669
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: the main character a football player who's corrupted by gambling

670
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: and the connection to the mob. So I tried to

671
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: write it as a cautionary tale so that maybe people

672
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: within the NFL power structure or the teams or even

673
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 3: the players, And the reality is nobody really reads anymore.

674
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: But I'm hoping that it gets the message out as

675
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: to what can happen, both for the leagues and for

676
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: the players, because I think what happens is no matter

677
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: how much we have, there's always that temptation to make

678
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: a quick score. There's always a llure of easy money.

679
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: And one of the messages that I try to send

680
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: in Big Shield is there is no such thing as

681
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: easy money. There's always a cost, there's always a consequence,

682
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: and there's always a chance you're going to regret it.

683
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: And I try to lay out one word at a

684
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: time over the course of some four hundred pages, how

685
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: it really is a fallacy to think that it's a

686
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: victimless crime, that you know the sportsbooks have inside information.

687
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: What's wrong with giving the betters a little bit of

688
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: the inside information? What could go wrong? Well, we try

689
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: to show what can go wrong, and we're seeing it

690
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: play out in real time. So I got lucky. I

691
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: guess that this happened last week. But I'd rather these

692
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: things not happen. And from the NFL's perspective, I'd rather

693
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: they wake up and address the things that need to

694
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: be addressed. And it's very simple. Number one, you need

695
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: to restrict the amount of inside information that exists. I

696
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: think that is number one, and that requires an overhaul

697
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: of the injury report policy. And then you have to

698
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: restrict the flow of inside information outside the building. And

699
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: of course, the NFL had its moment last week which

700
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: is still unresolved and has been quickly forgotten, that Ravens

701
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: glitch in their practice report for Lamar Jackson. That shows

702
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: how competitive edge trying to keep the opponent in the

703
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: dark is to who they're going to face, creates the

704
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: kind of inside information that could then be misused and

705
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 3: abused and lead to a Terry Rosier Johntay Porter type

706
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: of the situation.

707
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: Now and that was beautiful laid out his book, Big Shield.

708
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: By the way, you can learn more about it and

709
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: or purchase it at Pro Football Talk dot com. Good

710
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: place to start.

711
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: Ninety nine cents for the book. That really is one

712
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: of the dumbest business decisions I have ever made in

713
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: a career. Chock full of them, so that would be

714
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: number one dumbest.

715
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: So you have all the stories at PFT raiders open

716
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: practice window for Aidan O'Connell Broncos thirty six sacks. Then

717
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: you scroll down below latest news and rumors. There it

718
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: is Big Shield. My Florio's latest book is available and

719
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: you can shield and you can order it there. It's

720
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: called Big Shield.

721
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: Now and anything that happened last week give you any

722
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: impulse to pick up the free signed copy I sent

723
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: to you and start reading it.

724
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, now, Crash, And what triggered me is, I've

725
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: worked in horse racing for more than half my life

726
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: and your dad was a bookie, all right, and you

727
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: have quite the fertile mind that nobody could could concoct

728
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: X ray glasses and untack lenses, special tables revealing cards,

729
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: secret mark cards, the shoe, the where the cards come

730
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: out of. That that was Jerry Jerry rigged.

731
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

732
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: They they ordered this shoot to read the cards and

733
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 6: the information was conveyed electronically to an off site operator

734
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 6: who then texted it back to a guy at the

735
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 6: table as to who had the good hands.

736
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Unreal, no matter how fertile your mind is.

737
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Speaker 4: And and again, I mean I I've, in a roundabout

738
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: way kind of been in that game more than half

739
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 4: my life.

740
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: I've never heard of anything like that. Had you no how?

741
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: And I wish I'd thought of it. You know, when

742
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: I when I see a movie or read a book,

743
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: I have two reactions, either this sucks or I wish

744
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: I'd thought of it. Rarely is there something that actually

745
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: happens that makes me say, man, I wish I'd thought

746
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: of that.

747
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: How How upset do you believe the people who laid

748
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: in the games are the ones who allegedly got stuck

749
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: via the cheating, Upset.

750
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 3: Enough to say something to someone that sparked a federal investigation,

751
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: because you know the risks when you get lured into

752
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: these mob rigged poker games and you lose money. You

753
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: got two choices, shut your mouth forever or open your

754
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 3: mouth and risk the consequences. So they were mad enough

755
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: to open their mouths and risk the consequences because you

756
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: know there's going to be some people. I don't know

757
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: that they're going to end up in witness protection or whatever,

758
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: but I would say that the mob families who were

759
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: rattled off by name, and it wasn't just the mob,

760
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 3: it was Lakos and Ostra. I was mentioned multiple times

761
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: last week. Whoever blew the whistle? And they're going to

762
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: know who the fish were. Those folks I think would

763
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: have some degree of looking over their shoulder for the

764
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: rest of their lives.

765
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: Right right, That's exactly what I was thinking to the

766
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: lesson at hand, and then the week that will be

767
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: begin name tomorrow evening. Uh, maybe McCarthy is the one

768
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: and Brosemer the backup the rest of the way. And

769
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: I know Wolford just was signed to the practice squad,

770
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: but maybe that's what they're going to do here.

771
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: And you say Wolford or Woeful or are there is

772
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: there a difference.

773
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: No John Wolford Wolfle, John Wolffle, no Danny Werf.

774
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: He did, he did, He did play, and he did

775
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: start a playoff game for the Rams.

776
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: He did.

777
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: He has that on his resume, just like Tyler Huntley's

778
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: a pro bowler. I mean, look, all due respect to

779
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: John Wolford, are there really no better options? And the

780
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: reality is there aren't. There aren't enough good quarterbacks to

781
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: go around. One of the lines from Big Shield that

782
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: the main character's agent likes to use is there aren't

783
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: enough bad quarterbacks to go around. The realities aren't enough

784
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: quarterbacks to go around. And this is where you are.

785
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: When guys start getting injured. They need somebody with experience

786
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: on that roster, and that's the guy they got.

787
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: So nine point dogs to the Lions, who are off

788
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: a by all right, uh, and the Vikings offensive line

789
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: gets healthy for the most part. For our fist, Ben

790
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: Ginkel's return is eminent and nine point dogs. Do you

791
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: do you think the Vikings get killed?

792
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: Yes? Wide, Well they got killed last year with a

793
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: much better team in Detroit, and the stakes were higher,

794
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: but the opportunity was much greater. This is a Vikings

795
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: team that is not what it was last year, going

796
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 3: into face a Lions team that, despite a glitch Week one,

797
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: and then they lost again to the Kansas City Chiefs.

798
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: But man, they look every bit as good as they

799
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: were last year, and they're starting to realize this whole

800
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: two running back thing. Come on, jami Gibs, David and Montgomery.

801
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: All due respect to David Montgomery, Jamiir Gibbs is the

802
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: guy and they're gonna possibly be leaning into even more

803
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: into him being the next in the line of Billy

804
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: Simms Barry Sanders. And they just need to unleash this guy.

805
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: So they're coming off their bye week. They're arrested, they

806
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: get Briant branch Back. He's got an extra chip on

807
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: his shoulder, even though it's his own damn fault he

808
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: got suspended. You take that and you turn it into motivation.

809
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: I just think this does not set up well for

810
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: the Vikings lunch. JJ McCarthy comes out and is somebody

811
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: we've never seen, or at least the guy we saw

812
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter of the Bears game from start

813
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: to finish. Even then, even then, the best I think

814
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 3: you can reasonably hope for is to cover the spread.

815
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: I don't envision a scenario where the Vikings can find

816
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: a way to win the game. And I'm not just

817
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: saying that as an emotional hedge or to try to

818
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 3: provide some bulletin board material. They know what they're facing.

819
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: The best outcome on Sunday is to not get killed

820
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: and then try to build on it from there.

821
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: Best outcome Sunday is to win the game.

822
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think the best realistic outcome is to not

823
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: get killed and hope to build on it from there.

824
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: I mean, the best outcome is for you to go

825
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: down and buy a mega million's ticket today.

826
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: And win it.

827
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: All right, Ye I don't buy them, but I would

828
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: like that f T is Green Bay perhaps the best

829
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: team in the NFL.

830
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: I don't think they're the best team in the NFL.

831
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 3: I think right now the best team in the NFL

832
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: is the Indianapolis Colt And I think you could argue

833
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: that the Packers are the best team in the NFC,

834
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: but they they get a chance to prove it coming

835
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: up against the Eagles. I believe Philly goes to Green

836
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: Bay on a Monday night coming up, so we're going

837
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: to see some of this wash out. The Packers will

838
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: play the Lions again. They've already beaten the Lions once.

839
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: It is so funny how the Packers start off to

840
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: and oh and it's like, man, oh, they're special. One

841
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: of their guys says, hey, we could go undefeated, and

842
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: then reality sets in with a loss and then a tie,

843
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: and we've just kind of forgotten about them. But the

844
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: way they overpowered the Steelers on Sunday night, and that

845
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: crowd in Pittsburgh, it was the first time I've ever

846
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: been to a Steelers game in my entire life where

847
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: the crowd was flat. It felt like a neutral site game.

848
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 3: We were outside the stadium taking a podcast, and from

849
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: the reactions that we could hear coming over the big

850
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: wall of the stadium, you couldn't tell whether it was

851
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 3: a good play for the Steelers, are a good play

852
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: for the Packers. That's so many Packers fans were there.

853
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: Two to go.

854
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: Has the Patriots has Has Drake may become a top

855
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: five ish quarterback in the NFL.

856
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 3: A top five, top top five is a tough one.

857
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there was that whole Kirk Hurbstreet trying to

858
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: put Justin Herbert in the top five last week, which

859
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: you know, you tell on yourself as being a part

860
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: time NFL guy if you even suggest that the top

861
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: five is hard to crack into. Top ten, right, best

862
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: guy from the class of twenty four, Yes, you force

863
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: your way into the top five, not by becoming the

864
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: quarterback of a playoff team, but by winning in the

865
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: postseason and getting your team to the higher levels of

866
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: the playoff tree. That's how you develop the kind of

867
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: vibe that makes people say this guy is in that

868
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: upper crust of all quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Would you prefer Drake May over bow Knicks, Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would too. I mean with with Peyton, you know,

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Speaker 2: with Peyton's offensive mind and just the way he's done

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Speaker 2: things for decades. You know, I think Nis is at

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Speaker 2: an advantage there compared to and Brable's really good at

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Speaker 2: what he does the one five in a row and

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Speaker 2: Drake May during that winning streak eleven touchdowns, just one interception.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that the Peyton factor helps Nix

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Speaker 2: more than May's situation helps him.

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Speaker 3: Do you and I think Peyton would have taken May

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Speaker 3: if he could have gotten him. I think some of

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Speaker 3: that comparison to Drew Brees, and you find a quarterback

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Speaker 3: that you can basically attach yourself with a hip two

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Speaker 3: for an extended period of time. For as long as

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Speaker 3: Peyton's going to be there, bo Nick's likely to be

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Speaker 3: the quarterback unless he just face plants. But it's going

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Speaker 3: to take time because look, if Peyton had gotten Drew

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Speaker 3: Brees as a rookie, it would have taken some time

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Speaker 3: to get Drew Brees to where he was when Peyton

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Speaker 3: got Breeze after he was five years into his NFL

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Speaker 3: career and he landed in New Orleans. So they're on

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Speaker 3: the right track in Denver and they're one of the

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Speaker 3: best teams in the NFL right now. But between the two,

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Speaker 3: I'd take May and I think Peyton in a quiet moment,

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Speaker 3: would admit that right now, May is the better overall

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Speaker 3: quarterback than Nicks. And just look at it this way,

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Speaker 3: you flip the two. If you flip Nicks and and May,

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Speaker 3: what are the Broncos and what are the Patriots? I

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Speaker 3: think the Broncos end up being a lot better and

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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots end up being a little bit worse.

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Speaker 2: Now, now, this last question is a little dated, but

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Speaker 2: it took place after we chatted last week. What what

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Speaker 2: did you think of Jets owner Woody Johnson publicly ripping

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Speaker 2: quarterback Justin Fields the way he did.

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Speaker 3: Well, if I said what I really thought, I'd get

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Speaker 3: you fined by the FCC. I'll just say this, In

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Speaker 3: all the years that I've been following and covering the NFL,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen an owner call out a player. And

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Speaker 3: I think it wasn't as jarring in the first instance

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Speaker 3: because he did it in so nonchalantly. And you know,

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Speaker 3: the big story from the week before that was to

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Speaker 3: a Tonga Bai Lowland the heat of the moment after

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Speaker 3: a game, calling out not by name, the fact that

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Speaker 3: there were multiple teammates that weren't showing up for player

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Speaker 3: only meetings or showing up late, and that was all

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Speaker 3: my I can't believe he did that. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: is a cold blood of assault on Justin Fields, gratuitous, unnecessary,

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Speaker 3: and just. It shows that the bad teams are bad

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Speaker 3: for a reason. The bad team are bad and they

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Speaker 3: stay bad because the dysfunction comes from the top. And

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Speaker 3: Woody Johnson gave us all a look at who he is,

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Speaker 3: what he is, and why his team is typically so bad.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Michael, enjoy the weekend. We'll call you

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Speaker 1: next week.

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