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Speaker 2: You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You one answer

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Speaker 2: the truth. You can't handle the truth, truth, the truth?

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Speaker 2: wlw Welcome into Rnel Carrier Sports Talk, presented by Kelsey Chvlat.

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Speaker 2: I'm lionce Bacanist. You're your host. I'm glad you're here.

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Speaker 2: We've got two and a half hours tonight. Can't remember

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Speaker 2: A couple of different topics to get you involved in.

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Speaker 2: Start with college basketball tonight. The Bearcats are in Tucson

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Speaker 2: to take on number one ranked Arizona. You did the

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Speaker 2: last time you see beat the number one team in

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Speaker 2: the country was Duke in the Great Alaska Shootout in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight. It was Fletcher to Kenyon t Mel

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Speaker 2: for the Slam coverage here with Dan and Terry. Starting

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Speaker 2: at eight thirty. Scott Springer checks in from the desert

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Speaker 2: with a preview. Now, I don't think he'll be exactly

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Speaker 2: in the desert, but you get the idea with a

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Speaker 2: preview tonight at I don't think he'll be in the desert.

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Speaker 2: We'll see At eight oh six, Xavier takes two game

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Speaker 2: Jays seven o'clock with Joe and Byron on fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky is hosting Sean Miller in the Texas Longhorns. That's

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Speaker 2: at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty the Longhorns or eleven

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Speaker 2: and seven this year two and three in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Other action Drew Western, Heidi's Dayton Flyers at LaSalle and

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Speaker 2: A ten play It's Right State hosting Cleveland State, and

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Speaker 2: Horizon League Play Baseball. Another signing, Big Bucks Cody Bellinger

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Speaker 2: returns to the Yankees five years, one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: two point five million per year. Math tells me that's

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Speaker 2: what is that? That's about a thirty five million a year,

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Speaker 2: A little bit under that. There are opt outs after

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Speaker 2: the second season, and after the third season. He gets

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Speaker 2: a twenty million dollars signing bonus, and he gets a

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Speaker 2: full no trade clause. Wow. The White Sox have finally

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Speaker 2: traded Luis Robert the Mets give up two minor leaguers

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Speaker 2: and will assume the entire twenty million dollars on Robert's contract.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that deal is done and he's not here.

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Speaker 2: College football. U See's schedule is out. The Bearcats will

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Speaker 2: welcome Texas Tech, Utah, and Colorado to Nippert for the

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Speaker 2: first time ever. This coming football season. You See will

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Speaker 2: host four conference games, will travel to five road contest

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Speaker 2: the Miami Game, the Battle of the you See Miami

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Speaker 2: Game Battle for the Victory Bell will be at pay

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Speaker 2: Corps neutral site. Game Berickats have won by the weekend

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Speaker 2: of October tenth NFL. The Bills have requested an interview

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Speaker 2: with former Bengals defensive coordinator and current Colts d C

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Speaker 2: lou Anroumo for their head coaching position. Anroumo has already

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Speaker 2: interviewed with the Titans and the Giants. They both have

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Speaker 2: obviously filled those positions now. Bengals OC Dan Pitcher did

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Speaker 2: a virtual interview today for the OC job with the

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers today. He also interviewed with the Bucks

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty three. Brian Callahan has a second

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Speaker 2: interview with the Buccaneers tomorrow. Very interesting NFL Conference Championship Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Patriots at the Broncos at three rams of the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: at six thirty. All the games, both the games here

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW. If you miss this show, if

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Speaker 2: on Mom. Did you hear what Terry Franconis said on

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Speaker 2: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. Ay A

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Speaker 2: developing situation in the NFL moments ago. According to NFL

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Speaker 2: Network Dundal, the Chiefs have agreed to terms with Eric

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Speaker 2: season of the Patrick Home Mahomes era, Andy Raid brings

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Speaker 2: Lasted one year. Then he went to UCLA to be

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Speaker 2: City to be their OC. All Right, Friday night at

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Speaker 2: Ridsfest was a blast. Loved doing the show from there.

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Speaker 2: on Friday night, Nicolodolo sat down and talked, and Emilio

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Speaker 2: and Terry's said so many different things that I thought

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Speaker 2: we pick it up with me asking Terry about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean our to be truthful, I mean, our

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Speaker 3: but our trajectory has to be going this way, and

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, remember what it felt like the pop champagne.

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Speaker 2: I just talked with Emilio and I thought he brought

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Speaker 3: So when we were going through good times last year,

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Speaker 3: So we can match up against certain guys in lineups

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Speaker 2: We know at times last Sea and you were offensively

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Speaker 3: You know, And I got stubborn with him last year

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Speaker 3: But I would rather try to play with a really

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Speaker 2: If you are going to have nights where runs are

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Speaker 3: It's very hard to be ultra aggressive on the basis

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Speaker 3: leaving the league. Making outs on the bases isn't a goal. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And the one thing we talk about all the time.

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Speaker 3: But I told him myself, we got to be intelligent

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Speaker 2: You made a decision to come back and you got

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the same things that you kinda crave,

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Speaker 2: What if it makee The question I get asked most

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Speaker 3: You know, back in my day, the fastest guy let

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Speaker 3: I don't want a base clogger up there. I don't

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Speaker 2: So I've been thinking since Friday night about what Terry

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Speaker 3: It's very hard to be ultra aggressive on the basis

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Speaker 2: We don't want to do that. Tito Friday Night, I

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Speaker 2: to know how many opportunities did the Reds have to

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Speaker 2: yet they stole one hundred and seventeen fewer bases, tried

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Speaker 2: to steal one hundred and seventeen bases one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventeen fewer times, and were successful one hundred and two

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Speaker 2: fewer times, so more opportunities. Didn't do it nearly enough

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Speaker 2: in the attempt and didn't do it nearly enough in

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Speaker 2: the success. So you know what, that leaves you with

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Speaker 2: a lot of l oh bees left on base, and

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Speaker 2: I just don't I don't know how you can afford

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Speaker 2: to do that again with the current roster construction and

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Speaker 2: makeup of this team. We go to Kevington. Hey, Brad,

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Speaker 2: you were on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 4: Hey Lance can here?

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Speaker 2: We got loud and clear what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Awesome?

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, like I follow every game as many do

446
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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati, you know, and I follow every game. If

447
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Speaker 4: I can't physically watch it, I'm following it just to

448
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Speaker 4: make sure what the Reds are doing. And you know,

449
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 4: I've lived here my whole life, and so Reds, you know,

450
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Speaker 4: grew up in the big Red machine with my dad,

451
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Speaker 4: you know, and he always taught me about all of them,

452
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Speaker 4: so you know, rez are in the blood. But it's

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Speaker 4: been very frustrating. Last year, I went to that last

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Speaker 4: Pirates game. I think we got into three double plays

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Speaker 4: that killed Brawley's in a game that we should have won.

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Speaker 4: And me and my friend are sitting there, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: why are we not stealing? Why are we not doing anything?

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Speaker 4: And I really remember this art where and I think

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Speaker 4: what you said twenty three is when they had the

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Speaker 4: base changes press yep, So was that also the year

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Speaker 4: that the Diamondbacks made it to the World Series.

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Speaker 2: Ah, let's see backtrack. I'm gonna have backtrack in my memory.

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Speaker 2: It might be yes, I believe so.

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Speaker 4: So I remember watching in any regardless, I say, I

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Speaker 4: think I remember watching that World Series, and I really

466
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Speaker 4: likened our style of baseball to the Diamondbacks in a

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Speaker 4: way because they were very fast, they were very aggressive,

468
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Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, this could work, you know

469
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Speaker 4: what I mean. We don't have to be the Dodgers,

470
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Speaker 4: we don't have to be the Yankees, like you're talking about, Like,

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Speaker 4: this can work and you can be successful. Yes, you

472
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Speaker 4: might give up outs, you might give up rallies, but

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Speaker 4: this can work. And still last year, as I'm sitting

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Speaker 4: at that game that I went to against the Pirates,

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Speaker 4: at the end of that season where we really needed

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Speaker 4: those wins and gets me back into the playoffs. But

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Speaker 4: that's neither here. They're there at this point. But I

478
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Speaker 4: was just like, maybe we steal or hit a hit

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Speaker 4: and run like what you're saying, and put up some

480
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Speaker 4: of those double plays. And it is frustrating to hear

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Speaker 4: a philosophy, not a manager's situation, like in a in

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Speaker 4: game situation, but a philosophy. I'm like, since he has

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Speaker 4: come on compared to Buddy Bell before, is like, we

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Speaker 4: don't run, and it's like that was sort of our

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Speaker 4: identity there for a couple of years, especially when La

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Speaker 4: Day La Cruise came.

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Speaker 2: To the team, no doubt. And by the way, it

488
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Speaker 2: was Arizona lost to the Rangers in the World Series

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Speaker 2: that year. They stole one hundred and sixty six bases

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Speaker 2: that season.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, yeah, so that's a lot of bases. That's

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Speaker 4: a lot of bases. And then I would be and

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Speaker 4: then I think a stat would even be curious, and

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Speaker 4: I know you're a stat guy. I was like, how

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Speaker 4: many of those stealings actually into them too?

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Speaker 2: Runs?

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Speaker 4: Going back to the you know, it's going back to money,

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Speaker 4: you know, and I've read.

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Speaker 5: I read that whole book.

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Speaker 4: It's going back to moneyball, of that whole philosophy of

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Speaker 4: the analytics of getting these guys. You're buying runs. You're

502
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Speaker 4: not buying home runs. You're buying runs, and that's what's

503
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Speaker 4: supposed to be and getting those runs to move from quicker,

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Speaker 4: especially with the team like ours that does not hit

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Speaker 4: and string hits them together. We got to figure out

506
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Speaker 4: a way and we hit. We're in a hitters ballpark.

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Speaker 4: We can't hit home run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, jo hey, Brad, I'm glad you called. And uh,

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Speaker 2: let's talk again sometime, all right.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, man. I always watching it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Keep in mind Major League Baseball is begging

512
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Speaker 2: you to steal bases. That's why they changed the rules pickoffs.

513
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Speaker 2: They made the basers bigger. And in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: when they changed the rules, you know what, the success

515
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Speaker 2: rate on steels was eighty percent. Eighty percent of steals

516
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Speaker 2: were safe. Now the league is adjusted. In this past season,

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Speaker 2: it was seventy five, but that's a high. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I looked it up today. If you go back to

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five, you know what the success rate was

520
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Speaker 2: stealing sixty five percent. If you go to twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: the success rate was only at seventy percent. It's up

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Speaker 2: to seventy five. Now they are saying run, and Terry

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Speaker 2: frank Cone is saying we're good because I value outs.

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Speaker 2: And the line was, my goal wasn't to see quote

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Speaker 2: why My goal wasn't see how many bases we could steal.

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Speaker 2: It was to see how many times we could be safe.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. Mason we Go Ken,

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Speaker 2: you were on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Lance, Lance, you caught on some very key structures

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Speaker 6: to Terry Francone. Terry Francone is never going to be

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Speaker 6: a base stealing guy. That's just not in his philosophy. Lance,

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Speaker 6: we can you can talk all the statue, on all

533
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Speaker 6: the analytics. Terry's more aligned with Dusty Baker than he

534
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Speaker 6: is this new wave of running. You know, last year

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Speaker 6: he got up frustrated because Ellie strained his quad stealing

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Speaker 6: a base, and he dealt with that problem all year.

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Speaker 6: The Hayes kidding left field got hurt twice being too

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Speaker 6: aggressive on the base pass. You know, Terry, that's another big.

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Speaker 2: Well a minute, Austin Hayes got hurt on a plane

540
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Speaker 2: ride and then he got hit on up on his

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Speaker 2: foot and broke his.

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Speaker 6: Foot and in some strain over running too aggressively, Terry felt.

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Speaker 6: I know that Terry doesn't like that. That doesn't that's

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Speaker 6: not how he approaches the game. It just isn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's great if you have a roster that allows

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Speaker 2: you to overcome that.

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Speaker 6: Terry is one of those three run home run kind

548
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Speaker 6: of Earl Weaver kind of guys. Lancey's that's just the

549
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Speaker 6: way he is.

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Speaker 2: Well. But the problem is, when you look around this roster,

551
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Speaker 2: how many three run home run guys do you see?

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Speaker 6: He doesn't have many, you know, I mean you bring

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Speaker 6: up great points, lance on that You're never going to

554
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Speaker 6: get Terry to want to run the bases aggressively. He

555
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Speaker 6: thinks you get more guys hurt doing that. You know,

556
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Speaker 6: he don't get enough guys playing one hundred and forty

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00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 6: games doing that. You know, I can tell you last

558
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 6: year was very frustrated. Ellie got hurt stealing the base,

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Speaker 6: you know, when he wasn't given the ghost sign either,

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Speaker 6: and I mean he dealt with that all year, and

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Speaker 6: I mean Ellie had it down here last year. If

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Speaker 6: You've got to be honest. His stats were twenty five

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Speaker 6: percent off from the year before, and it's basically because

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Speaker 6: he couldn't drive through his legs.

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Speaker 2: Well, but we're talking about an entire roster here, not

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Speaker 2: one player. We're not specifically talking about having to steal.

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Speaker 2: You understand the art of a hit and run and

568
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: starting runners and forcing the action and opening up holes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's not a that's not a new

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Speaker 2: concept in baseball. It's I feel like we've reached a

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Speaker 2: point where you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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Speaker 2: And Terry Francona is the old dog.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Lance, I agree with you. I'm a Whitey Herzog guy.

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Speaker 6: I'm a first to third guy all day long. You know,

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Speaker 6: I'm a very aggressive runner on the base, Bess. Terry's not.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you think back to his years in Boston.

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Speaker 6: They lived on the three run homer. They had great

578
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: starting pitching, they lived for the three run homer.

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Speaker 7: Oor oh.

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00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 6: We were made a lifetime out of it for twenty years.

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Speaker 6: The three run homer. I mean, that's Terry's Terry figures

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Speaker 6: he only has to get one three run homer a

583
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Speaker 6: game to win, you know, and where he figured. And

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Speaker 6: if you're talking about running the base all time, you're

585
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 6: needing to steal three and four bases to make that happen,

586
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: you know, And I'm more in tune with that. I'm

587
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 6: just telling you what Terry is. Terry will never be

588
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 6: a guy that's gonna get out there and run the bases.

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Speaker 2: Can I always enjoy our I gotta get the news.

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00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: I always enjoy our conversations. Look forward to our next one.

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00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: All right, Lancea that good right, thank you? Good baseball talk?

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Speaker 2: All right, one hour in the books you're gonna hear

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00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: from Will Benson when he sat down Friday night. I

594
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: thought it was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: That and more of your calls as we continue with

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Speaker 2: All right, seven o'clock hour, underway on our way to

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Speaker 2: eight thirty, and you see basketball with Dan and Terry

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Speaker 2: here on seven hundred WLW. Xavier is underway trailing Creighton

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Speaker 2: ten eight with about fifteen minutes to go in the

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Speaker 2: first half. The Kentucky Wildcats out to an early seven

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Speaker 2: to six lead five minutes in and Drew wester Ade's

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Speaker 2: Dayton Flyers. You know, when we were walking out last night,

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Speaker 2: we were in the elevator and Drew, I said, Who's

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Speaker 2: Dayton got tomorrow night? And he says Lasal And he says,

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Speaker 2: I don't feel good about this game. And I said, oh, okay.

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Speaker 2: LaSalle has just completed an eighteen to nothing run and

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Speaker 2: leads Dayton, led him thirty three to ten. It is

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Speaker 2: now thirty six to nineteen with about four minutes to

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Speaker 2: go in the half. All right, let's talk some more Reds,

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Speaker 2: grab some more calls, get back into what Terry Francona said,

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Speaker 2: and get back into some things said and done. At

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Speaker 2: Redsfest on Friday night, Will Benson joined me. And Will

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Speaker 2: Benson I felt sorry for it times last season because

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh, because Will Benson was the quintessential tough

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00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: luck hitter last year. He hit the ball harder than

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Speaker 2: any player on the Reds team last season. The numbers

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Speaker 2: will back that up. Nobody hit the ball as hard

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Speaker 2: for the season as Will Benson did. Nobody hit it

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Speaker 2: harder more often on the Reds than Will Benson last year,

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Speaker 2: and nobody hit more line drives on the Reds last

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Speaker 2: year than Will Benson, and yet his batting average was

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Speaker 2: two twenty six. I mean he would crush the ball.

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Speaker 2: If he had enough at bats to qualify, he would

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Speaker 2: have the I think the twenty second highest exit velocity

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Speaker 2: in the game in crushing the ball, higher than vlag Guerrero.

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Speaker 2: And yet I say tough luck because you can only

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Speaker 2: you can only control so much as a hitter. You

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Speaker 2: try to square it up barrel. It is the term,

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Speaker 2: and the rest is up to where somebody is standing.

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Speaker 2: And he hit into tough luck last year. There's a

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Speaker 2: number in baseball called batting average on balls in play,

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Speaker 2: and it's simply what everybody's averag is if they actually

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00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: hit the ball. Take out all the strikeouts. I'll take

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00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: out everything if you just hit the ball into fair territory.

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00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: The average major league hitter last year hit two ninety two.

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00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 2: Just put it in play. He hit two fifty five,

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00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: which shows you nothing went his way last year despite

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00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: hitting the ball really, really hard. So I laughed. When

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Speaker 2: he sat down with me on Friday night, my iPad

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Speaker 2: was out and I had it open to the Baseball

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Speaker 2: Savant page and analytical page of Will Benson and a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of graphs and charts and numbers. And he

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00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: sat down and put the headsets on and he put

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Speaker 2: it up my iPad. He says, oh, what's this. I said,

647
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: that's your Baseball Savant page, and he started going through it.

648
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: He was like mesmerized. Now he knows a lot of

649
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: that stuff, but he liked looking at it in the

650
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: graph form that it was on this page. And that's

651
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: where we pick up the conversation a couple of minutes

652
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: with Will Benson from Redsfest on Friday night. Give it

653
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: up to Will Benson. Everybody, I love it.

654
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 8: I love it. I love it.

655
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: It's great to see you. You are, you're You're seemingly

656
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: mesmerized by this. Baseball Sabant is a wonderful stat page

657
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: that shows you everything about everybody. And you're like, this

658
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: is really interesting to you, isn't it.

659
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 8: Well?

660
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I was just trying to figure out, well,

661
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 9: this off season, I've been working on understanding my strengths, right,

662
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 9: and what better way to understand what I'm good at,

663
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 9: yeah than looking at Baseball Sabant. And I mean I

664
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 9: knew this was what it was, but just looked a

665
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 9: little bit more intriguing at their stage.

666
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: I told you this when you walked up. I don't

667
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: know that I've ever ever remember somebody who in a

668
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: season consistently hit the ball as hard as you did

669
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: into the worst luck, like right at somebody. What what's

670
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: it like when you I mean the idea you can't control.

671
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: All you can do is control your process and squared

672
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: it up. The rest is out of your control. What's

673
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: it like when you just hit it right at somebody

674
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: and just say, man, I barreled that.

675
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

676
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 9: Well, first I want to thank my teammates because you

677
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 9: need brothers in the fight.

678
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 8: I tell you what I mean.

679
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 9: It can be very frustrating, it could be very aggravating,

680
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 9: but it's always good when you got you know, guys

681
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 9: in your corner just saying, hey, man, don't change the thing.

682
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 9: I think that's the biggest thing right when you are,

683
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 9: you know, hitting the ball in the nose and it's

684
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 9: going to right at people. I think you know that

685
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 9: little inclination areage kind of like, hey, do you know

686
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 9: you want to don't change the thing?

687
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 8: You know?

688
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 9: And I'm glad of people that were around me were

689
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 9: constantly reiterating that message because that's what it takes, you know,

690
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 9: just to stay stay on it.

691
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 8: Man, hit the ball consistently that hard. Yeah.

692
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go bigger picture talk team. Take

693
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: me back to September. It's a playoff chase. Yeah, everybody's

694
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: fans are scoreboard watching, Like what the Mets do tonight?

695
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: What do they do tonight? What's it like playing in

696
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: games and experiencing September in a race?

697
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 8: Yeah?

698
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 9: Man, I was just over there on another right, man.

699
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 9: It's it's an honor, you know what I mean, because

700
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 9: again veterans have told me, you know, you don't really

701
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 9: get this opportunity, and when you do, you need to

702
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 9: relationship and really be in it. So you know, I

703
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 9: was in it. Almost felt it to a fobs two

704
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 9: in it, you know what I mean. I'm checking it

705
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 9: just you know, just like everybody else. But then you realize, like, hey,

706
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 9: one game at a time, the most important game is today,

707
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 9: and it's the best right when you can control your destiny.

708
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 9: And so it was crazy, right because at the point

709
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 9: of time, our destiny was in the hands of someone else.

710
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 9: So that makes you know, bites your nails a little bit,

711
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 9: you know, making shake, but ay, you just stay calm

712
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 9: through it and with the chips fall what they make.

713
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: You've referenced your teammates a couple of times. It seems

714
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: like that group you guys as a whole, all the

715
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: pieces fit, the personalities, and you had each other's backs

716
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: and there for each other. Talk to me about that

717
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: aspect in it. You know, one hundred and sixty two games.

718
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: If that's not good, it can make life kind of

719
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: miserable at times.

720
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, chemistry is everything.

721
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 9: That's why I don't know how any team could make

722
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 9: it without it in some regard, because I think every

723
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 9: team hits a rough patch, right. I think even let's

724
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 9: see the Dodgers for an example, had a little rough

725
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 9: patch in there, and there world champions, right. I think

726
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 9: you don't bounce back without chemistry and just having that

727
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 9: locker room camaraderie, right, And I love the guys in

728
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 9: there that So I'm just, you know, thankful to put

729
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 9: this jersey back on again, because it's a process too,

730
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 9: to have to you know, jail with people. You know,

731
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 9: that takes time, especially if it's authentic and real. Right,

732
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 9: You don't just very rarely do you just come up

733
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 9: to people, and it just like Pops off, you know,

734
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 9: and you're talking about a locker room with grown men

735
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 9: and some boys Chase Burns are like that, the birthday boy,

736
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 9: and that's crazy. He's been his birthday with y'all. Man's

737
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 9: that's cool. But yeah, like so, you know, I'm just

738
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 9: thankful that we we do have a good group and

739
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 9: and you know, I'm thankful to, you know, just to

740
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 9: be a part of that core guys who who've kind

741
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 9: of been here the past few years and uh, you know,

742
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 9: scratch at the playoffs and hopefully can do something else.

743
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: What what is your off season been, like, what have

744
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 2: you been doing?

745
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 9: Man, it's been a blessing. Man, first and foremost, I've

746
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 9: been a father, so it's incredible. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah,

747
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 9: I got two of them. Yeah, yeah, I got two

748
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 9: of them. Went to Disney, So that was the first

749
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 9: time doing that. You know, Now how old are the

750
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 9: two My son's three and my daughters one half. So yeah,

751
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 9: I went to the one in California and so it

752
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 9: wasn't too far away.

753
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 8: I live in Arizona, and yeah, man, it was a blessing.

754
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: It was.

755
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 8: It was amazing.

756
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 9: And then on the other side, yeah, just uh, just

757
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 9: working on my craft, you know, just getting better and

758
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 9: you know, being consistent with just showing up to the

759
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 9: gym and you know, just giving it what I got,

760
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 9: you know that day, and learning and put my body

761
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 9: in a position to go out there and succeed. So

762
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 9: that that's been great. Faith's great, you know, just really

763
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 9: taking time to be with myself as well. I was

764
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 9: just help having two kids, right, But you know he was.

765
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: Talking with Nicolodola, who's a yeah, and it is. I

766
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: mean it's life changing. You think you have a perspective

767
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: on life and it all changes.

768
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 9: Changes and then you add it too, you know, then

769
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 9: many of life to start shaking up. So yeah, I'm

770
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 9: thankful that I was able to find some time for

771
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 9: myself as well, just to grow.

772
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 8: So it's a lot of girl.

773
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have you have a killer voice. You should

774
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: like I could hear you on the radio.

775
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 8: Yeah you appreciate that.

776
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like the Will Benson Show or.

777
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 9: Something you think, So yeah, right now I am and

778
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 9: when that time comes, like's I got to play for

779
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 9: a little bit longer?

780
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I get on it. That's a deal.

781
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: So what you've got about a month before camp starts

782
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: you head the Good Year anything on the docket between

783
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: now and UH and Goodyear.

784
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 9: Well, the cool thing is I live in Arizona, so yeah,

785
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 9: right there at the complex. Yeah, like the thirty minute drives.

786
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 9: So yeah, man, Yeah, be popping in and out, just

787
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 9: trying to get the routine down you used to the

788
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 9: complex again that's a whole nother situation. But then also

789
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 9: just trying to find as many like live reps as

790
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 9: I can, you know, speaking towards loppyps and things of

791
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 9: that nature, just trying to find some some of those

792
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 9: before I you know, come into.

793
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 8: Camp and just you know hit the ground run.

794
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: This was cool. Thank you for hanging out with us.

795
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Best of luck. Yes, and if you need like text

796
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: me and I'll send you information on baseball.

797
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's do that.

798
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Will Bens at everybody Will Benson Friday night at Redsfest.

799
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed our our time up on the stage.

800
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: All nine interviews in podcast form. It's seven hundred WLW

801
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: and dot com and the iHeartRadio app. It'll be interesting

802
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: to see where and how Will fits on this roster

803
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: because there is in that outfield JJ Bladay, There's Dan Myers,

804
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: Spencer Steer's going to play some left field. There's TJ. Friedel,

805
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: there's no a Marte. That's five, Will Benson six, So

806
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: how does he ultimately fit into their plan of a

807
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: twenty six man roster. Back out to the phones, we

808
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: go independence. Hey, Mike, welcome to sports Talk.

809
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 10: Hey, how you doing well?

810
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: How about you?

811
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 10: Oh? Good? That was good stuff. I will yeah, I will.

812
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 10: Coming on Cheeto's comments about running, It seemed to me

813
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 10: when they a couple of years ago were pressing the

814
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 10: envelope and kind of running all over the place, it

815
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 10: energized the team like a home run would. And you know,

816
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 10: they put so much pressure on the other team. I

817
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 10: mean there were so many errors forced and just I

818
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 10: don't know. I think the energy in the team was

819
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 10: just something that really struck out to me about when

820
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 10: they were running as much as they did, just energizing

821
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 10: the other guys in a dugout when.

822
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: I did that, I think that's a great point. And

823
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: when you're not hitting home runs, it's even more pronounced

824
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: the lack of energy, and it can be so easily

825
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: substituted by starting the runners and forcing the action right.

826
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 10: And amount of double plays last year was just ridiculous,

827
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 10: So if we can cut that down. I know the

828
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 10: LAKO was talking about situational hitting, but I mean if

829
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 10: we can start the runners like you said, or get

830
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 10: some guys moving, that would cut that down lots.

831
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: As well, No doubt, no doubt.

832
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Speaker 10: That's all I got.

833
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: Hey, that's all I need. Thank you, Mike, Appreciate you

834
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: checking in. Still ahead, more of your a little bit

835
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Speaker 2: we were talking kind of following up on what Tito

846
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: told me Friday night. When I asked him, I said, Hey,

847
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be child he says, uh, I think

848
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: it's safe say we're not gonna lead the league and

849
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: run score. And I said, if you're going to be

850
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: challenged offensive and you're not going to hit as many

851
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: home runs, might you have to consider pushing the envelope,

852
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: pushing the button more in terms of being aggressive and

853
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: to their credit and his response is in simplest terms,

854
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't like to make outs on the basis he

855
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: considers that those very valuable opportunities, and to their credit,

856
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: they were better on that. They didn't make as many

857
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: outs on the bases last year. They didn't get doubled

858
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: up online drives as much or thrown out trying to

859
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: advance on a wild bitch. But and they made fewer

860
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: outs of the plate. A lot of that is tied

861
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: to the ridiculous David Bell contact play being tossed out

862
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: the window. But they didn't take the extra base at

863
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: nearly the same rate as they did the year before.

864
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: Their stolen bases dropped by one hundred and two. They

865
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: went from two hundred and seven steals to one hundred

866
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: and five. And I think of that in terms of

867
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: this season with the challenges they're going to face, and

868
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: I just I just don't see how you justified in

869
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: terms of generating your offense. Mike Germer we go, Hey, Mark,

870
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: how are you hey?

871
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 6: Good Lance?

872
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: How are you well? What's on your mind?

873
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 6: Hey?

874
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Speaker 11: A couple of things you know that's you know, I

875
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 11: heard what Tito said and a couple of things that

876
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 11: he didn't say that you know that I'm going to

877
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 11: talk about briefly. Number one, the guy that called up

878
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 11: about Tito not wanting to run. Go look at the

879
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 11: Indians numbers the last five years they were in the

880
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 11: top five and stolen bases the last four or five

881
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 11: years that he was there, So that's not the case.

882
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 11: I think the problem, the big problem with this club

883
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 11: and that that Tito didn't talk about. It strikes out

884
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 11: way too much. It's one of the highest strikeout teams

885
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 11: in baseball, I think the ninth most.

886
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 12: And when you.

887
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 11: Start looking at the Brewers and the Rats, typically the

888
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 11: Brewers and the Reds had almost the exact same number

889
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 11: at home with runs. I think the Brewers had one

890
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 11: more than the Reds. But the difference is the Brewers

891
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 11: hit with men on base, the Reds do not.

892
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 10: The Brewers are.

893
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 11: One of the best teams in the baseball not striking

894
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 11: out res are one of the worst.

895
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 10: And I don't know.

896
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 11: How many times I saw last year with a runner

897
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 11: on third and less than two out a strikeout. If

898
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 11: you're gonna play small ball, you have to make contact,

899
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 11: and a strikeout is the worst play in the game

900
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 11: with men on base. And I think that's the major

901
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 11: issue here. With this club getting better offensively, they have

902
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 11: to make more consistent contact. And I think if they

903
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 11: make more contact, not hitting with two strikes all the

904
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 11: time having to cover the plate, I think you will

905
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 11: see more home runs. But it's pretty hard when you

906
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 11: strike out a lot to you know, basically that takes

907
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 11: you out of big innings.

908
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't dispute that. Now, for the record, to

909
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: be fair, they did get on base more last year

910
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: than they did the previous season. But to your bigger picture,

911
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: contact is balls in play. Contact is making somebody catch

912
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: it and throw it. Contact is is a ball drop

913
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: it in and scoring a run. Contact's a good thing.

914
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 11: Yeah, And I mean I think a couple of things.

915
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 11: I mean, obviously a lot of the guys that could

916
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 11: steal bases didn't get on base. I mean Matt McClain.

917
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 11: You know, he didn't get on base a whole lot

918
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 11: and you know, very high strikeout guy. You know, Ellie

919
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 11: was hurt the hell second half of the season.

920
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: He couldn't run.

921
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: And to my original point, it doesn't have to be

922
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: a stolen base. It can be starting a runner, it

923
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: can be taking the extra base going first to third.

924
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 2: They just that was that that was lacking last year.

925
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 11: Well, I agree, but I think that's been a problem

926
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 11: here for a while.

927
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: And I think, well, but it wasn't. I mean, I mean,

928
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: as I laid out two years ago, he wasn't because

929
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: they stole two hundred and seven bases and ran ragged.

930
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 11: You know, I just I am not a fan of

931
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 11: the heights of the strikeout. I think.

932
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: I get that, Mark, thank you. I mean we're we're

933
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: basically talking about being aggressive tonight didn't strikeout as a topic,

934
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: but it's kind of a topic for another night. This

935
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: is about the aggressive nature of the team, or lack thereof,

936
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: in the generation of runs. Do they strike out, Yes,

937
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: everybody in baseball strikes out, but again last season, the

938
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: Reds got on base more even with the strikeouts. Last year,

939
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: the Reds got on base more than they did the

940
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: previous year, despite the strikeouts, and yet lack the aggressiveness

941
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: to generate more of an offense. Caller Mark is right

942
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: if you go back to Tito's last year in Cleveland,

943
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, is that right? Two twenty three? Okay,

944
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, what I'm looking at right now,

945
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: the Guardians under Terry Francona stole one hundred and nineteen bases.

946
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: This was prior to the rule changes. They stole the

947
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 2: third most bases in Major League Baseball in twenty twenty two.

948
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking at now twenty twenty three under Terry Francona,

949
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: and they were let me pull this up, one, two, three, four,

950
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 2: fifth in all of Major League Baseball. So that's interesting.

951
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: The caller ken in the first I was referencing Boston.

952
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: But in Cleveland, we've given you back to back examples

953
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: where the Guardians were in the top five in stolen

954
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: bases in baseball. So why the difference? And in fact,

955
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 2: one year prior to that, they stole the third most

956
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: about a basis in the game. So wonder what would

957
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: produce the difference? In the year before that they were

958
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: third in stolen bases back to twenty twenty one. Holy Cow.

959
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: So why why such a stark night and day difference?

960
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that was a good point by Mark.

961
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: We'll get to check on news more ahead. RNL Carrier

962
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet seven hundred WLW seven

963
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: thirty seven seven hundred WLW RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented

964
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: by Kelsey Chevallet on Lance pickownlistener, Man, thanks for being

965
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: around tonight. Uh, Joe Waddella is producing and we're gonna

966
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: roll till eight thirty when we'll hand things off to

967
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: Dan and Terry. They've got UC basketball playing here against

968
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: the number one team in the country, those Arizona Wildcats.

969
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: We got knee deep into the Reds conversation tonight reaction

970
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 2: to what Tito said on Friday night about the aggressiveness

971
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: of this team and running into outs versus making things

972
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: happen and creating a little bit of energy behind it

973
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: offense that as he said, we're probably not gonna lead

974
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: the league in runs this year, and that's the reality

975
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: of this situation in Fairfield, Andy.

976
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 12: What do you say, Lance, how are you tonight?

977
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm good? How about you not too? Bad.

978
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 12: I just wanted to follow up real quick on that

979
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 12: last caller about those strikeouts and running. Yes, maybe the

980
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 12: look up, I mean, because the Cleveland stats don't lie

981
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 12: about Perry's willingness to run. But is he afraid that

982
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 12: if he starts a run or nobody's going to make

983
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 12: contact and that why he's got a double play?

984
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a I mean, that's say the

985
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: downside to it, no question. I guess I'd have to

986
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 2: be able to look up how many times that happened

987
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: last year versus how many times it produced the run.

988
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: But I know where you're going with.

989
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 12: That, yes, right, I would be curious to know where

990
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 12: Cleveland was in those same years in strikeouts versus their

991
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 12: their willingness to run or their stolen bases if they're

992
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 12: really low in strikeouts and really high and you know

993
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 12: stolen bases like we already know. Maybe that's the answer.

994
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 12: I'm not sure. I just it was something that popped

995
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 12: into my head after listening to that last color.

996
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. I'm going to uh, I'm

997
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: going to try to dig that up. And I appreciate

998
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: you bringing it up and appreciate you listen, right, all right.

999
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 12: I appreciate it, Thank you.

1000
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: Thank you. Let's see, can I do that? Well, it's

1001
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: going to take me longer to pull it up. Let

1002
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: me give you this before I run out of time

1003
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: because I want to get into something involving Murty here

1004
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: coming up in our next segment. But a quick note

1005
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: and get ready because a lot of this is coming

1006
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm really I'm not looking forward to it,

1007
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 2: and I'm unsure of exactly how to handle it because

1008
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: there's a lot of it that's minutia and very complicated.

1009
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: And that's the labor situation that is coming from Major

1010
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: League Baseball. And it's not a matter of if they're

1011
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: going to be if there's going to be a lockout.

1012
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: I think the better question is going to be if

1013
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: there is going to be baseball at all in twenty

1014
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: twenty seven. I think that's a very fair and concerning question.

1015
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: But I was reading Evan Drelich in The Athletic yesterday

1016
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: and the belief of what the Kyle Tucker deal last

1017
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: week has done to the owners, and in his words,

1018
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: talking to sources around the game, major League Baseball owners

1019
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: are quote raging in the wake of last week's news

1020
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: where Kyle Tucker goes to the Dodgers for a sixty

1021
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: million year four years of two hundred and forty million,

1022
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: and the quote in the story is it is now

1023
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: a one hundred percent certainty, says a baseball source, that

1024
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 2: the owners will push for a salary cap. The source

1025
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: telling the Athletic, these guys are going to go for

1026
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: a cap no matter what it takes. So you've got

1027
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, the two time defending champs, already had the

1028
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: highest payroll now giving Kyle Tucker sixty million a year.

1029
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: The Mets turned around and gave Bobashett three years one

1030
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six million, And in this story, it

1031
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: says that raised the dander of owners around the league,

1032
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: adding that the Dodgers and Mets might be the only

1033
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 2: teams trying to stand in the way of a salary cap.

1034
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: When it's all said and done, think about that, the

1035
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: Dodgers are looking at a payroll of four hundred million

1036
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: dollars this year. Only three other teams are expected to

1037
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: be over three hundred million. There's two teams projected under

1038
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: one hundred million. The Marlins and Rays Reds are going

1039
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 2: to be around one hundred and fifteen to one hundred

1040
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: and twenty million, and the owners still have to determine,

1041
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: according to this story, what floor, salary floor and sealing

1042
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: they're comfortable proposing. See get caught up in they need

1043
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: a salary cap, they need a salarycap. What's going to

1044
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: come with that is a salary floor, meaning it's going

1045
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: to force teams to start spending that are at the

1046
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: bottom payroll wise. The Reds, the Pirates, the Marlins, the

1047
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: A's teams like that. They're going to be forced to

1048
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: spend more money. So I wonder, and I read this

1049
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: in the story. The floor in particular could be a

1050
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: contentious issue for small market teams, some of which might

1051
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: stand to make more money on the current system. Meaning, how,

1052
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 2: let's just play the game. Let's just say pick numbers,

1053
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: let's play the imaginary game. And Major League Baseball settles

1054
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: this with a salary cap at a salary floor, and

1055
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: the cap is three hundred million. You can't spend a

1056
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: above three hundred million or you pay a significant tax. Well,

1057
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 2: what if they raise the floor to the major average

1058
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: payroll this past year that was one hundred and seventy

1059
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: five million. Now I'm just spitballing here, I just picked

1060
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: the average. Let's just say that becomes the floor. Well,

1061
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: I wonder how the Reds would view a salary floor

1062
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: that would require them to spend more money.

1063
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 8: I mean, the.

1064
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: Reds payroll last year and this year's going to be

1065
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: around one hundred and fifteen to one hundred and twenty.

1066
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: What would their reaction be if through all these negotiations

1067
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: came a cap and a floor, and the floor forced

1068
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: the teams at the bottom to start spending more money.

1069
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: To the point in the athletic how many then of

1070
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: the small market teams would say, on second thought, we

1071
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: want something closer to the system we're operating under right now,

1072
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: where they don't have to spend as much money, and

1073
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: that draws the ire of the teams at the top.

1074
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: There's so many levels and so much nuance to this,

1075
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: and so many complicated things to all this. I just

1076
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: don't look forward to it. When they wiped out the

1077
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: season in ninety four in the World Series, I was

1078
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: in Chicago. I remember what that summer was like without

1079
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 2: the Cubs in the White Sox. I can't imagine at

1080
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven without Reds Baseball for an entire season

1081
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: or half the season or a portion of the season.

1082
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: But understand this, there is absolutely no way there's going

1083
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: to be an agreement reached on this to start opening

1084
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: day on time, because this will be this will be

1085
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: Armageddon meets the Apocalypse, because this will be the most

1086
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: drastic change. One way or another, something's gonna change. It's

1087
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: going to be the most drastic change the game has

1088
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: seen because the economics of the game are out of whack,

1089
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: and I have no idea how it's leveled out to

1090
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: any extent. I mean, the easiest, The biggest problem in

1091
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: all this is this. And this is as simple as

1092
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: I can get it. When people say say, why don't

1093
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: they do what the NFL does the NFL look at

1094
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: the parody in the NFL. Here's the biggest problem, one

1095
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: of the problems. NFL teams have one giant TV deal

1096
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: and all of that money is cut up into the

1097
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: same amount and hand it out to all thirty two teams.

1098
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: Here's your share, and your share and your share. Cowboys

1099
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: you get this much, Bengals you get the same amount,

1100
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: Patriots you get the same amount, Steelers you get the

1101
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: same amount, forty nine ers. Everybody gets the same amount.

1102
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: Because it's one big TV deal. In baseball, all thirty

1103
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: teams have their own local TV deals. So let's just

1104
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: round off numbers. Say the Dodgers are making three hundred

1105
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: million dollars a year on a TV deal and the

1106
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: Reds are making pick a number fifty million a year

1107
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: on a TV deal. Well, how would you convince the Dodgers? Hey, hey,

1108
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: you live in LA. You got a big, giant market

1109
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: with a lot of eyeballs to TV, and you get

1110
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: three hundred million dollars for your TV deal. We want

1111
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: you to share that with the Reds. And if you

1112
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: were the Dodgers, you would say what you would say,

1113
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: the hell, I am not my fault. They're in a

1114
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 2: small market, not my fault. They chose to buy the team,

1115
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: So how do you convince that? In the counter to

1116
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: that would be if I were on the other side,

1117
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: I would say, well, look, you need LA, great, New

1118
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 2: York great, Your TV deals astronomical, But you know what,

1119
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: you need everybody else to play those games to have

1120
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: them on TV. Can they draw them closer to saying

1121
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: all right? Then there needs to be some level of

1122
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: compromise from that standpoint. That's one of many hurdles because

1123
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: a lot of the big market owners say, we're tired

1124
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: of the small market teams pocketing the revenue sharing money

1125
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: that does go on and not putting it into payroll.

1126
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: So how do you force their hand?

1127
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I so do not look forward to this. The current

1129
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: collective bargain agreement will end in December twenty twenty six.

1130
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: Season will end, December will roll around and the owners

1131
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: will lock out the players, and it will be on

1132
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: and it will be ugly. And I can't even guess

1133
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: when it might end up next this date, nineteen seventy four,

1134
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: he was thirty one years old. He was tabbed to

1135
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: be the voice of the Cincinnati Reds. More on that.

1136
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: As we continue, RNL carry Sports Talk presented by Kelsey

1137
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: Chevrolet seven hundred WLW seven fifty three, seven hundred WLW.

1138
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: We are flying along on this. What is this Wednesday night? Yes,

1139
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: garbage day tomorrow. I have the trash cans ready to

1140
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: put out when I get home tonight. That's how I

1141
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: go because when you forget that, nothing like the sound

1142
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: of the garbage collector coming on early in the morning

1143
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: and realizing you forgot in the mad dash down the

1144
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: stairs into the garage and outside, especially in weather like this,

1145
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: I prefer not to got him set up to revive

1146
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: me when I get home tonight. On this date, nineteen

1147
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: seventy four, the Cincinnati Reds hired thirty one year old

1148
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: Marty Brenneman to replace al Michaels and placed him alongside

1149
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: the old left hander Joe Nuxall. Marty was the voice

1150
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: of the Virginia Squires at the time of the ABA

1151
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: was selected out of some two hundred and twenty one

1152
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: cassette tapes that were sent in as from individuals looking

1153
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: for the opportunity to be the voice of the Cincinnati Reds. Now,

1154
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: I go back on the day Marty's statue. I think

1155
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: there was a statue reveal. Marty talked about his arrival

1156
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: in town, how he felt about the opportunity, and a

1157
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: lesson he learned early on. Take a listen to this story.

1158
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 7: When I came in nineteen seventy it's the only time

1159
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 7: that I ever doubted my ability. I'd come from Virginia.

1160
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 7: I was a big fish in a small pond. Now

1161
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 7: I replaced the guy who we all know what his

1162
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 7: career has been once he started here and moved on

1163
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 7: to al Michaels who's a dear friend of mine. You know,

1164
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 7: I was a little nervous. I was coming into a

1165
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 7: club that was eminently talented, incredibly good at what they did,

1166
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 7: and I really did not know how I was going

1167
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 7: to be accepted. And I was accepted by people like

1168
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 7: Sparky Anderson and Johnny Bench and Tony Perez and Joe

1169
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 7: Morgan and Pete Rose and Davy Concepcion and saysar Geronimo

1170
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 7: and all those guys. They didn't have to embrace me,

1171
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 7: but they did, and they made my coming to replace

1172
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 7: Al a whole lot easier than it might have been.

1173
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 7: Johnny Bench took me out for the first time after

1174
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 7: I joined the club as a broadcaster in Montreal, Canada,

1175
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 7: and we played a Saturday afternoon game and the game

1176
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 7: ended the Reds one up at Old Jerry Park and

1177
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 7: I'm down at the clubhouse and he said, Hey, what

1178
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 7: are you doing tonight? And I said, I'm not doing anything.

1179
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 7: I was wet behind the ears. I was scared of

1180
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 7: my own shadow. He said, You're going out with me tonight,

1181
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 7: and I did, and amazingly, I got overserved and the

1182
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 7: only thing I had to eat was popcorn, and I

1183
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 7: got violently sick, and Bench put me in a cab

1184
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 7: to go back to the hotel, the Queenie Hotel in

1185
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 7: downtown Montreal. And I woke up on Sunday morning, and

1186
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 7: I felt like a million dollars. I mean, I could

1187
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 7: not have felt better if i'd have gotten fifteen hours sleep.

1188
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: So I go to the ballpark and I.

1189
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 7: Go into the manager's office to do a pregame show

1190
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 7: with Sparky Anderson. And before I turned the machine and

1191
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 7: I said, let me tell you what I did last night.

1192
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 7: I said, I had a heck of a time. Bench

1193
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 7: took me out and we went out. We had a

1194
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 7: big time, and I got sick and I had to

1195
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 7: be taken back to the hotel. He said, stop, I'll

1196
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 7: be right back. Went down to the trading room benches

1197
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 7: stretched out of the trading table, sick as a dog.

1198
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 7: But has got nothing to do with what happened last night.

1199
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 7: He was legitimately sick. Bill Plummer was supposed to catch

1200
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 7: that day. Sparky said, I've changed the lnup. You're the

1201
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 7: lineup the entire game. That game went eleven innings and

1202
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 7: the eleventh inning in typical Betch fashion, He and Ken

1203
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 7: Griffy Senior hit home runs to win the game for

1204
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 7: the Reds. Lesson learned is you don't talk about what

1205
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 7: you did the night before if you're a player or

1206
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 7: you're a broadcaster with a manager.

1207
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: Marty with one of his classic stories in the tie

1208
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: in to this date and his arrival in Cincinnati's the

1209
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: Voice of the Cincinnati Reds. He has also talked about

1210
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: the moment in that first season in nineteen seventy four

1211
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: where he felt like it finally clicked and he was

1212
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: welcome here. Take a listen to what Marty said.

1213
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 7: So the season begins in seventy four and I'm on

1214
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 7: shaking ground because I don't know whether I should be

1215
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 7: there or not.

1216
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: And then comes your line.

1217
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 7: The Rents play Ats one eight doubleheader in Riverfront Stadium

1218
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 7: against the San Francisco Giants, and they go to the

1219
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 7: top of the ninth inning in Game one, trailing thirteen

1220
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 7: to nine, and they rally to within one run, and

1221
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 7: Johnny is at first base and Tony Perez is at

1222
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 7: the plate, and Perez it's a home run to straightaway

1223
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 7: center field off Randy Moffatt to give the Reds of

1224
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 7: fourteen to thirteen win. It was an incredible comeback. I

1225
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 7: lost my mind. And then I found out later that

1226
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 7: people continue to call WLW radio all night long to

1227
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 7: hear my call of Tony's game winning home run. And

1228
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 7: at that point I thought, you know what, maybe I

1229
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 7: got something working here.

1230
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: Would you like to hear that call. Let's go back

1231
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: to that night and here is the moment.

1232
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 7: Mopping mopping is brown quickly two strikes out in front.

1233
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: Of Perez, has a sign the pitch flam center fail.

1234
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: It's all over, It's all over.

1235
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 5: Charrass dar darres win It a home run to center.

1236
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: Field by Tony Perez.

1237
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 7: Darres w it, darres w it.

1238
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 4: Fourteen to thirteen Terrez when a home run to center field.

1239
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 11: The Rens has scored five times.

1240
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 7: Of the night inning and the res Tony Perez home

1241
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 7: run the center field.

1242
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 9: Oh my golly, holy cow.

1243
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: Want to finish? How about that call? Wow? Hair standing

1244
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 2: up on my arms. All right, let's wrap up the hour.

1245
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,959
Speaker 2: By the way, just a quick glance during the break,

1246
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: and the collar was wondering. It was a great question.

1247
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: Do the red strikeouts, and in theory, certainly it would

1248
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: would the the hit and run opportunities be lessened by

1249
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: fear of strike them out, throw them at double plays.

1250
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: Aside from stolen bases, we're just talking specifically starting the

1251
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: runners with a propensity strikeout. Over the recent years, the

1252
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 2: Reds of bad seasons where they struck out two more

1253
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: times than the Guardians seventeen times more, but a season

1254
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: where they struck out one hundred and thirty times more,

1255
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: one season where they struck out three hundred times more,

1256
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: one where they struck out nineteen times more, but one

1257
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: where they struck out over two hundred and fifty times

1258
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: more than the Guardians. So certainly it would come into

1259
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: play from the standpoint of starting the runners on a

1260
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: hit and run not is tied directly to stolen base attempts.

1261
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: And it is interesting the last three years of Terry's

1262
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: time in Cleveland with steals, they were third, third, and

1263
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: fifth in all of Major League Baseball. Up next, let's

1264
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: head to Arizona, the top rank Wildcats against the UC

1265
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: Cat Scott Springer on the scene with more afternoons RNL

1266
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

1267
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

1268
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: All right, eight oh seven, seven hundred WLW RN l

1269
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance McAllister.

1270
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: Thank you for being here tonight. We're on the run

1271
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the hour. And then we passed

1272
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 2: the baton to Dan and Terry. They've got u see basketball.

1273
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: The bear Cats play here tonight. You see is in

1274
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: Tucson to take on number one Arizona. On the scene

1275
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: and all over it for the inquirer would be Scott Springer.

1276
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: Let's go straight to the source, sir. How how has

1277
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: your day, Ben? How are your travels to Tucson? Send

1278
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: the scene for me?

1279
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 8: Oh my goodness.

1280
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 13: Well, I was supposed to have flown to Phoenix yesterday

1281
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 13: and been in about eleven am and got deplaned and

1282
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 13: had to switch flight, rerouted Dallas to Tucson. Got in

1283
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 13: about nine pm last night after we taggled over a

1284
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 13: rental car and yeah, and then my wife's with me

1285
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 13: on this trip because she had a week off. And

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Speaker 13: it's like, well, why in the world would you say

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Speaker 13: in Cincinnati if you had a week off. So I

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 13: had to get her a ticket and we were figuring

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Speaker 13: out how to get her in and all that. So

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Speaker 13: she's up, she's up in the nose leaves tonight, So

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Speaker 13: her heckling is not going to be a factor in

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Speaker 13: this game.

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Speaker 2: Understood. Understood. Take me back to Saturday, they knock off

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Speaker 2: number two Iowa State. Certainly I would think a confidence boost,

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: a momentum builder. What stood out in that game for

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Speaker 2: you in terms of their performance.

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Speaker 13: Just the confidence that they've played with and the ability

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Speaker 13: to finally finish a game, which is what's been missing.

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Speaker 13: And you look at all the games they've been. Really

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 13: the only game you could say that they haven't been

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01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 13: in is that Eastern Michigan debacle.

1302
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 2: But every other.

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 13: Game, you've had leads at certain points, You've had ten

1304
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 13: point leads, you had Georgia on the ropes for a half.

1305
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 13: You came back against Clemson, you know the down at UCF.

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01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 13: You make a shot and they make a shot. They

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01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 13: just as the luck rating says that, you know, they

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01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 13: were three sixty four at one point, and it was

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01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 13: very valid if you want to call it luck or

1310
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 13: just mismanagement or nerves or I don't know what, but

1311
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 13: they put it all together. That's the biggest win in

1312
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 13: the West Miller era. Now you just be number two

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 13: on your home floor and I'm sitting here in the

1314
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Speaker 13: McHale Center because they had to come where and get

1315
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 13: a signal here. It's gonna be about fourteen thousand strong here.

1316
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 13: You're only playing number one, No big deal, right, So

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 13: they're very, very good, and I think home court advantage

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 13: in this league is tremendous.

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Speaker 2: Ask Iowa State.

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Speaker 13: I watched Colorado and Kansas last night. Buffalo's had Kansas

1321
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 13: on the rope there for a little bit. But it's

1322
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 13: a crazy league. But for them to survive, and they

1323
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 13: need to somehow get through January a lot better than

1324
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 13: they did last January, which they lost a ton of

1325
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 13: games and kind.

1326
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: Of fell out of it. So if last Saturday.

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 13: Can be a momentum, we'll see kerk Creases out here

1328
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 13: warming up and scheduled to play.

1329
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: And they're in the black.

1330
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 13: Cats uniform, which has typically been a little bit of

1331
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 13: good luck. Speaking of luck, and so yeah, if Baba

1332
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 13: Miller can pull down a double double and then guys

1333
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 13: can hit their shots. But you know, Arizona's crazy good.

1334
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 13: Jaydon Bradley and those guys. If you go back to

1335
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 13: last year's game, it was they were tearing UC up

1336
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 13: and then the Bearcats came back and had a late

1337
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 13: but then good teams do what they're supposed to do

1338
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 13: close and that's what the Wildcats did. They closed out

1339
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 13: one by five. So coming here as a tall order,

1340
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 13: to be quite honest.

1341
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: Scott, what do you make of Seanabaye? Have played about

1342
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: five minutes versus Iowa State, Then previous games ten, six, twelve,

1343
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 2: and nine, he went through a stretch where he's playing

1344
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: over twenty nearly thirty minutes a game. What do you

1345
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,879
Speaker 2: make of his diminishing playing time.

1346
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 13: I got to see him at overtime Elite last year

1347
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 13: as a high school kid, and he was doing all

1348
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 13: those funky moves and the fadeaways and the stepbacks and

1349
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 13: they're going in. There's a huge difference in doing them

1350
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 13: against a high school kid, even as sounded as a

1351
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,839
Speaker 13: high school kid as at, and then doing it against

1352
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 13: a Division one team.

1353
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: And let's face of these kids.

1354
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 5: Are older now.

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01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 13: I mean these are nine eighteen year old kids and

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 13: Sean's eighteen, and you're playing against guys that are twenty

1357
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 13: two to twenty three. And I think everyone's found Hey,

1358
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 13: you know, if we can get older guy have some talent,

1359
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 13: that might work. It's sure work for Indiana football, and

1360
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 13: it's working for a lot of the basketball teams. I mean,

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Speaker 13: Kurk Crees is twenty five, Jalen Celestine, I think this

1362
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 13: turned twenty five. They're still playing. There's guys in the

1363
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 13: NBA that are younger than that. But if you can

1364
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Speaker 13: get older guys that can mess together as a team.

1365
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 13: And that's the other part you got all these guys

1366
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 13: is if everyone's going to flip the roster, you got

1367
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 13: to get guys that were the guy at one place

1368
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 13: to be a part of the unit at another place.

1369
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 13: So that's something that they all have to learn. So

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Speaker 13: you know with Sean that they put Sinceer Harris in

1371
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 13: the lineup, he added a lot of defensive help. Still

1372
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 13: drives it crazy when he bangs his layups a little

1373
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 13: bit too hard, but he is a menace defensively. And

1374
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 13: then yeah, you got to play Gizzle. They've played pretty

1375
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 13: good since jimsel James has come back. And the one

1376
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 13: thing with Kirk Creaes is Wes Miller said repeatedly, I

1377
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 13: like the way our offense was when we had tour

1378
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 13: and day day in gizlms. So do you get one

1379
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 13: hundred percent tonight? I don't know, but they like that

1380
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 13: reguard approach. I don't know if you see more of

1381
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 13: that tonight, but you know Jalen sell Us, the way

1382
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 13: he's shooting the ball, you got to keep him in

1383
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 13: as long as his.

1384
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Back holds up. He is Scott Springer. He is on

1385
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: the scene. We're approaching game time tonight. You'll hear it

1386
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred W LW. He'll have it covered

1387
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: all over at for the inquire since a dot com. Scott,

1388
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: tell him where they can follow, read and keep track

1389
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: of everything you're offering.

1390
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 13: S Springer Sports on x and Cincinnati dot Com. We'll

1391
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 13: have the game recap and there's some quotes and and

1392
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 13: all sorts of things there. And I think Springer Sports

1393
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 13: is my Instagram and I put some mountain pictures up today.

1394
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 13: Ain't got a good breakfast place called Frank's. Oh and

1395
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 13: it basically said on their sign that there are better

1396
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 13: places in town.

1397
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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 8: It was pretty good, it was awesome.

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 13: I highly recommend Franks beautiful son, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: You are the man. I appreciate you making time tonight

1401
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: and making this work. Thank you all right, Sorry, there

1402
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: you go. Scott Springer from the Inquirer Cincinnati dot Com.

1403
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: He had the the Shanabayev situation, highly r very highly recruited,

1404
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: highly ranked freshman five minutes against Iowa State, And if

1405
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: you work backwards from the Iowa State game, he has

1406
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 2: played five minutes, ten minutes, six twelve nine. Now, prior

1407
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: to that, he went through a stretch of twenty three,

1408
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty five, twenty twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty seven,

1409
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: twenty one minutes that obviously clearly has been cut significantly,

1410
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: And you always wonder how, in particular a young player

1411
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: is going to react to that in terms of his

1412
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: playing time. When we come back from the archives this week,

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Speaker 2: this night nineteen eighty two, Bob Trump, he had Sports

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 2: Talk in Detroit was the Reds Reds, the Bengals and

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01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers for the Super Bowl that year.

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01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: This was the first Super Bowl meeting. Sports Talk was

1417
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: in Detroit for the week. You're gonna hear part of

1418
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 2: Bob Trumpy's conversation. He had Anthony Munhoz as a guest

1419
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: with him, and Sam Weish called in. Sam was an

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: assistant with the forty nine ers at the time, and

1421
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 2: to hear these two go back and forth, I thought

1422
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: it was worth playing. You'll hear it next RNL Carrier

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01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. Hey

1424
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: shout out to those listening to sports Talk tonight in

1425
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,120
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1431
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,760
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1432
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: miss it live, it delivers the podcast as well. Just

1433
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: type in my name on the podcast page and it

1434
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: will pull up tonight's conversations earlier in the show. It'll

1435
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: pull up the reds Fest interviews from Nicolodolo and Emilio

1436
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 2: Pagan and Matt McLean and Sam mall Zach Maxwell, Brandon Williamson,

1437
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Speaker 2: Will Benson, TJ An tonin More. Gonna let you hear

1438
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: a little bit of what TJ said maybe tomorrow night

1439
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 2: before the week is done, and what Matt McClain said,

1440
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: I think we'll do a Matt McClain topic maybe on

1441
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: Friday night as well. Updating eleven fifty two to go

1442
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: in the game, Creighton's sixty four Xavier sixty two. Fourteen

1443
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 2: minutes remaining at Rupp the Wildcats fifty Texas forty seven.

1444
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 2: Dayton has scrambled back, but trails by five. They were

1445
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: down thirty three to ten. Now they're down by three,

1446
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: two minutes to go. Lesu sixty five, Dayton sixty two.

1447
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: An update on the scoreboard. I'll give you another update

1448
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: here in a second. Let me give you this from

1449
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 2: the archives. It was on this date nineteen eighty two,

1450
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: Sports Talk was on the road in Detroit. The Pontiac

1451
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: Silver Dome was hosting the Bengals and forty nine Ers

1452
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: in their first Super Bowl meeting, and Bob Trumpy spent

1453
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: that week there with Sports Talk each night and had

1454
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: Anthony Munnos and I'm trying to remember the other Bengal

1455
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 2: with him on the scene from the hotel. That's where

1456
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: the broadcast setup was at the hotel, But checking in

1457
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: by phone was Sam Wish, who at the time was

1458
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: on the forty nine Ers coaching staff, and I thought

1459
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: it was worth listening to a couple of minutes of

1460
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: the exchange that night between Bob Trumpy and Sam Wish

1461
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 2: hit it now, I.

1462
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 5: Believe we have on the phone line the quarterback and

1463
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Speaker 5: receiver coach of the San Francisco forty nine ers. Sam,

1464
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 5: whitch are you there? Sam?

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 14: Hear? Don't hit that button again, Detroit.

1466
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 5: I had nothing to do with Sam. How are you

1467
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 5: find him?

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01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 14: Right on time?

1469
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 2: On Bo?

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01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, wonderful, You're fantastic, first time in your life. I've

1471
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 5: got Anthony Munjos and Mike Wilson's sitting here with me.

1472
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Speaker 5: The enemy, You're right, the guys in the black hats. Sam.

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01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 5: First question, what is the situation with Freddy Solomon?

1474
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,879
Speaker 14: Well, we had to amputate, just pullow the knee.

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01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 5: That means you got a peg leg for him. I'm serious.

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01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 5: I understand that he did have a knee brain today, Yeah,

1477
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 5: whit we were running patterns, having almost a non contact scimmage.

1478
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 5: We were not in pat today, and he.

1479
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 14: Was running a pattern and he and Ronnie Lott got

1480
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 14: their feet tangled up, and he twisted his ankle a

1481
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 14: little bit and his knee a little bit more, and

1482
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 14: we're just don't know right now. Bob he's got a

1483
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 14: sore knee, and it's we've got him listed as questionable

1484
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 14: because he really he couldn't go out and play right now.

1485
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, how has your week's preparation gone as far as

1486
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 5: you're concerned, Have you been able to get the things

1487
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 5: done that you felt necessary to prepare for the Super Bowl?

1488
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 12: Well?

1489
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 14: I think so. We tried to get what we knew

1490
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 14: we had to do done the week before while we

1491
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 14: were at home. We had good weather and we didn't

1492
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 14: have the distractions that we have here, and what we've

1493
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 14: tried to do here just polished the things and the

1494
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 14: plays that we put in for the game a week ago.

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Speaker 5: Anybody else that you want to talk about that's got

1496
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 5: some problems or is everybody else healthy?

1497
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Speaker 14: My nose has been running a little. Oh a few.

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Speaker 14: Have any fans interested in that? But we're healthy. I

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Speaker 14: think we're now. The last time we played Cincinnati, Freddie

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Speaker 14: was injured and didn't play in the ball game and

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Speaker 14: Edris didn't play for Cincinnati. So we were hoping that

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Speaker 14: those two guys that were back and we find out

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01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 14: who the best team is that Freddy is going to

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01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 14: try to be ready and if he's not, Mike Wilson

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01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 14: will take his place.

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Speaker 5: Sam. Last night I had Bruce gazadon for a short

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 5: time and he said that after that first Cincinnati San

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01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 5: Francisco game, you two guys met in the middle of

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01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 5: the field and both made the comment we'll see at

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 5: the Silver Dome and Pontiac, Michigan. This has got to

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01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 5: be a dream come true for you.

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Speaker 14: Well, it is, and it's I'm happy for everybody because

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01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 14: Bruce is a very close friend and a lot of

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01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 14: guys in the Cincinnati organization are a close friend of mine,

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01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 14: and Bill Walsh's and Chuck Studley's and Linda Elliott. We've

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01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 14: got some connections there. And when we left the field,

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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 14: we knew that we played a super Bowl club and

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01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 14: that we'd had one of our best ball games. And

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 14: we did make that statement. Wasn't a made up story.

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01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 14: We said, we'll see you again in Pontiac, Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody is always looking for a trip to the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Has it been as you expected before you

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01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 5: got here?

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Speaker 14: You know, five, I've been the one before. This is

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01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 14: kind of old hat to me.

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Speaker 5: Oh sure, right. All you did the last time was

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Speaker 5: garry a clipboard for the Washington Redskins.

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Speaker 14: The whole one extra point of Pat.

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Speaker 5: Sam, nice talking to you is Jane Antonia.

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Speaker 14: Oh, well, the plane has landed. We understand that they

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01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 14: haven't arrived at the hotel.

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Speaker 5: Well tell her, I said, hello, Okay, thanks for calling?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 5: Bye? Way Sam Watch, quarterback and receiver coach of the

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Speaker 5: San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: How cool was that? That's a Matt ree special. I

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: love archive and all the stuff that Matt Reese has

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01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: discovered and passed along over the years, And that one

1539
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: is on the calendar each year. Today the anniversary. It

1540
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: was this date, nineteen eighty two. Sports talk from the

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01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 2: team hotel in Pontiac, Michigan. Great here in those two

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01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 2: voices speaking of UC minutes away, Dan and Terry. The

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: football schedule was announced earlier today. They will welcome Texas Tech, Utah,

1544
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 2: and Colorado for the first time ever. They will host

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01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: four conference games in Big twelve play. They'll travel to

1546
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,839
Speaker 2: five road games. Their one by weekend is August October tenth.

1547
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 2: They will get that. They'll leave the Queens City only

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01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: once before October seventeenth, and then play three of the

1549
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: final four on the road. They open with Boston College

1550
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: the Eagles went oh and eleven this season. That'll be

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01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: September fifth at Knippert Stadium. They will host Western Carolina.

1552
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 2: The battle for the victory will be on September ninth

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01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 2: at pay Corps neutral site. We'll open Big twelve play

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01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: at home against Kansas State on September the twenty sixth.

1555
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: They hit the road to face Arizona October third in

1556
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: Tucson for the first time. The travel to West Virginia

1557
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 2: October seventeenth, and the bearcats one hundredth homecoming game will

1558
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 2: be And speaking of homecoming, it will be against Texas

1559
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: Tech the Red Raiders. And how ironic it's homecoming because

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 2: Brendan Soresby will be coming home to take on his

1561
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: former team on October the twenty fourth. That's followed by

1562
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: a home game versus Utah. November features trips to Houston

1563
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: on November the seventh, Iowa State on November fourteenth, the

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01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: Colorado game at Knippert is on the twenty first of November,

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01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 2: and they close out the regular season on November twenty

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01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 2: eighth at BYU. All right to final notes from things

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01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: that happen on this date before I hand things off

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01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: the news Red's Note. Nineteen eighty one, the Reds deal

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01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: Saesar Geronimo to the Kansas City Royals for Herman Baronca.

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01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: The big Red Machine centerfielder would play three. I forgot

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01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: he played that many years in Kansas City, hit two

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01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: forty four in his three years. The twenty four year

1573
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 2: old Bronca would appear in just fifty five games over

1574
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: the next two seasons for the Reds would never appear

1575
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 2: in a Major League game after that. Nineteen ninety John

1576
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: McEnroe becomes the first ever expelled from the Australian Open

1577
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 2: for throwing a tantrum and swearing at an official. And

1578
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven, on this date, Don Manningley announces

1579
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: his retirement. All right, let's see tomorrow night on the show.

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01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: I think I've got it pretty much locked up, so

1581
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 2: I can go a few details to iron out, but

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01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: I can tell you of the following early on in

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01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: fact six point twenty tomorrow night to Holloway Xavier legend,

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01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: he's having his jersey retired this weekend. In the game

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01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: against Saint John's. He will check in at six. James

1586
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: or Peene checks in and talks Dan Pitcher. The Bengals,

1587
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor play calling and more. I've got a Reds

1588
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: offensive question for you in the seven o'clock hour, as

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01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: the search for offense and a bat continues. Would and

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01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: I think we may have done this early in the offseason,

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01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: and now it looks like the Phillies may just wash

1592
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: their hands and release him. Perhaps eat a million or

1593
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: two to get somebody to take would? Would Nick Costianos

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01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: do anything for you?

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 12: That?

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01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: Plus a whole lot to be figured out between now

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Speaker 2: and tomorrow night. Thanks to Joe Wael for producing. Thanks

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01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 2: to you for taking a listen, stick around, listen to

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01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: the news, and then listen to the Bearcats they take

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Speaker 2: on number one Arizona. This has been RNL Carrier Sports Talk,

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Speaker 2: presented by Kelsey Chevallet seven hundred WLW