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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Monday to some, Black Monday to others.

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Speaker 2: It's the Monday Midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: More importantly, thank you for spending your Monday right here

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Speaker 2: on the with the Bengals. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports

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Speaker 2: Station And Happy twenty twenty six. Yes, what a year,

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Speaker 2: it's already been there it is you want to Can

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Speaker 2: we get these cannons out of the way early?

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Speaker 3: Should we do that? Is that what you want to do?

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Speaker 3: Let's do that? Okay? All right, first cannon, all right,

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Speaker 3: goes out. Hold on, I have the list here, Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, if I can get my my iPad apparently

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Speaker 3: doesn't recognize my fingerprint anymore. Okay, this is the first

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Speaker 3: canon from months ago, twenty twenty six. Brian Callahan of

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Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, thank you for your services, service, Brian Callahan.

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Speaker 3: Brian Dabole of the New York Giants, Brian Daball, thank

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Speaker 3: you for your services. Heason Blessings, b D. Mike Kafka,

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Speaker 3: got that team played like the Patriots. Raheem Morris late

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Speaker 3: last night of the Atlanta Falcon.

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Speaker 2: Rahem Morris Atlanta this year broke their franchise record for

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Speaker 2: sack in a single season. They also have Bjon Robinson,

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Speaker 2: Drake London and some studs on defense.

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Speaker 3: Four straight wins to end the year doesn't matter. Kevin

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Speaker 3: Stefanski of the Cleveland Browns the two time NFL Coach

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Speaker 3: of the Year, two.

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Speaker 2: Time NFL Coach of the Year, and did so in

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Speaker 2: Cleveland that dumpster fire.

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Speaker 3: Two eleven wins seasons, two playoff appearances. There are two

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Speaker 3: a season. They are Paul Brown and Kevin Stefanski. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for your services. Kevin Stefanski, Pete Carroll of the

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders, Pistol Pete just one year in one

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Speaker 3: and done number one overall. Pick now for the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: And apparently Tom Brady is taking charge alongside John Spytech

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Speaker 3: to lead the search for a new head.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. The Falcons move on

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Speaker 2: from their GM, however, the Browns and the Raiders retain

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Speaker 3: More on that later, And just coming down as we

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Speaker 3: head coach Jonathan Gannon. That's the Gannon cannon right now,

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Speaker 3: the Gannon cannon right there. A lot of injuries, but

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Speaker 3: that team quit for your services. Yes, it is Black Monday.

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Speaker 3: We can do this one for Terry Fontina, oh GM

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Speaker 3: Oh do you know where that canon won't be firing?

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Speaker 3: Right here in the Queen City today? Come on the statement.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this from the desk of Mike Brown. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Mike read this to you. I almost guarantee you he

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Speaker 3: wrote this.

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Speaker 2: We came into the season with high expectations, coming off

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Speaker 2: four straight winning seasons with leaders in place that took

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Speaker 2: us to a Super Bowl and back to back AFC

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Speaker 2: title games. Damn right, we know this season has been

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Speaker 2: frustrating and disappointing. The results fell short of our standards

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Speaker 2: and missing the playoffs again proves there is more work

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Speaker 2: to do. Our focus is on building a team that

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Speaker 2: can consistently compete at the highest level with the goal

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Speaker 2: of winning championships. Yes, after thoughtful consideration, I am confident

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Speaker 2: that Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor are the right leaders

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Speaker 2: They have proven they can build and lead teams that

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Speaker 2: return to our desired levels of success. He finishes, We

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Speaker 2: are taking a hard look at everything we do as

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Speaker 2: we approach this offseason with focused determination good to build

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Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go, We're going to be back.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that is a lot of the reaction

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Speaker 3: Percent Austin that don't agree with this decision. This is

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Speaker 3: following a season since twenty twenty. Now, obviously this is

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Speaker 3: Tobin was named. Ye he's never been named We've talked

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Speaker 3: as much as this year. This kind of binds those

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Speaker 2: It will be a conversation as we get into the

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Speaker 2: Duke Tobin will be available on Friday at one o'clock

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Speaker 2: I think it would be fun as the week goes on, Austin,

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Speaker 2: got the microphone. You're asking Duke Tobin the question, what

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Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating to hear from Duke Tobin.

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Speaker 2: for doing it. I mean, this is the bare minimum.

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Speaker 3: You're a director of football operations for an NFL club.

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Speaker 3: the Beat writers have been all over the Bengals in

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Speaker 2: The draft class we know, well, not the class, but

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Speaker 2: earlier when we were meeting, Bengals have just over what

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Speaker 3: And that's just the early projections, and we don't know

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Speaker 3: zero excuse for turning around quickly because eighty million dollars

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Speaker 2: It is only behind Washington, the Los Angeles Rams, the Jets,

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Speaker 2: most of any team to spend in the upcoming offseason.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the game itself, although we're not going

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Speaker 2: to spend a ton of time on that dumpster fire yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I have questions about yesterday. We'll dive into those when

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Speaker 2: I have one question about the ending Austin Okay to

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Speaker 3: Yards and never then call a timeout and never easy

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Speaker 3: I thought that was in a season of questionable decisions

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the playoffs set. We'll get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into what I think is the most important takeaway,

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Speaker 2: about coaching. Coaching matters, man, and you see a lot

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of things they have in common

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Speaker 2: For Brendan Sowersby as he enters another season after hitting

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Speaker 3: Never easy to see your starting quarterback leave like the

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Speaker 3: Bearcats are seeing, and especially difficult to see a guy

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Speaker 2: Well said, Well said speaking of his former team, the

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Speaker 2: UC Bearcats Austin. They fell to the Navy Midshipman. Oh

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Speaker 2: my lord on Friday. That looked miserable. What a miserable

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Speaker 3: I thought they played hard.

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Speaker 3: It used to be just a prerequisite.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about the football team, but they

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Speaker 2: But in the end, it's Navy thirty five and the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bearcats thirteen. That makes it Austin a seven and

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Speaker 2: six year. More importantly, back to back seasons. Now for

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Speaker 2: and now finishing the season seven and six. Other college

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Speaker 2: Sure shout out to the norse Man. Shout out to

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Speaker 4: Don't so were they were there.

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Speaker 3: We're close, man, Yeah, we're close, man.

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Speaker 4: Not ready for that. We're close.

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Speaker 3: Thirty five days, really thirty five days pitchers and catchers

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Speaker 2: That's what Bill Seg Dennison told me to day O

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Speaker 6: Anyway, this is Football in the NATI, brought to you

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. We'll dive into some phone calls here

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Speaker 3: best thing is don't put him in harm's way. And

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Speaker 3: that's what they did. That was clearly the game plan. Good.

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Speaker 3: There was more good, yet he was still in harms

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Speaker 3: way early on of the game, kind of rolled his

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Speaker 3: ankle back, had an awkward slide being chased down by

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: There were still those moments where you're holding your breath

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Speaker 3: and everybody is saying, please get up, please get up,

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Speaker 3: please get up.

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Speaker 4: Thankfully Joe did.

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase led the way eight catches, ninety six yards,

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Speaker 2: another touchdown. T Higgins six for sixty seven. Another touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown found the end zone again. He's been a

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Speaker 2: touchdown machine. Great season. On a pass from Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: mentioned the Noah Fant fumble.

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Speaker 3: Seen far too much of that this year. You want

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Speaker 3: a couple of crazy stats, place nine return touchdowns against

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Speaker 3: the Bengals offense this year. Crazy. They had another tip

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Speaker 3: pass pick six, which was just unlucky, but whatever, Noah

456
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Speaker 3: Fan fumbled and it was scooped and scored again, third

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Speaker 3: time this season, all on the same play. All three

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Speaker 3: fumbles that Noah Fan has had have been scooped and

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Speaker 3: scored on. Yep, that is insane. So thirty three percent

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Speaker 3: of those nine return touchdowns have come on Noah Fam fumbles. Yep,

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Speaker 3: that is a crazy stat. Sam Webb returned that for

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Speaker 3: a touchdown. Devin Bush let his middle name. What I

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Speaker 3: didn't know if you were going to guess one spider, Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's fine, I think you're talking about Devin Bush.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen tackles and an Ion T returned for a touchdown

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Speaker 2: for Devin Bush as well.

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Speaker 3: That was a guy who sucked a couple of years

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Speaker 3: ago at the Steelers and has turned his career around.

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Speaker 2: He's had a great season for people. Miles Garrett obviously

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Speaker 2: gets the sack record. Did you have a problem that

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Speaker 2: they stopped play?

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Speaker 3: No? I didn't either. I had heard before the game.

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Speaker 3: I had heard before the game that the play was

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Speaker 3: going to be stopped, and I was like, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: makes sense, yep, like that, that happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: And then to see Joe kind of like talking with

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Speaker 3: the ref and then Zach Taylor losing his mind, I

479
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Speaker 3: was like, Oh, this was never communicated to the Bengals. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: which I have no problem with stop and play. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get that it should have clearly been communicating. But

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Speaker 3: if the if nobody talked to the Bengals about that,

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Speaker 3: then that's that's not right.

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Speaker 2: Agreed. Agreed that itself was the game. Are you making

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Speaker 2: anything to Hevin macpheer since extra points struggles?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that pissed me off a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Missus two extra points first one got blocked in a

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Speaker 2: game that the Bengals lose by two.

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Speaker 3: First one got blocked. Yeah. I do wonder though if

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Speaker 3: that had happened, if the Bengals would have gone for

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Speaker 3: two to try to win the game or lose the

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Speaker 3: game later on. Yeah, I don't know, but nobody wanted

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Speaker 3: overtime the next week for a guy who'd had a

494
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Speaker 3: really good season. Yeah, disappointed and difficult to see him

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Speaker 3: finish the season.

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Speaker 2: There is plenty more to talk about as it pertains

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Speaker 2: to this game, and we'll talk to you next on

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Speaker 2: the Monday Midday Quarterback right here on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: It's suit you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: We recapped the loss to the Cleveland Browns yesterday. We've

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Speaker 2: talked about the statement from Mike Brown running it back

506
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Speaker 2: with Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin just a day after

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Speaker 2: the Bengals twenty twenty five. I guess twenty twenty sixth

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Speaker 2: season comes to an end. Now that's twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: all right, twenty twenty five season comes to an end.

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Speaker 2: That statement was made here in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: And how long till you like stop writing twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: It'll take a while. I've been pretty good so far,

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Speaker 3: It'll it'll take a while. Also, what's the cutoff? I'm

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Speaker 3: not trying to derail the show, but quickly, what's the

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Speaker 3: cutoff for saying Happy New Year? This week? Is it today?

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Speaker 2: I think it's today? Yeah, today or tomorrow because everyone's

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Speaker 2: kind of getting back to work. And I've heard it

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: Probably five times already today, okay, And so I'm just

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Speaker 3: under most people you're seeing for the first time since

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Speaker 3: correct the New Year, and today it's like it's it, right, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: you say Happy New Year, Happy New Years. I usually

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Speaker 3: say happy New Year? Okay, all right, back to you

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Speaker 3: in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phone lines at five one three, fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty eight, and is calling it?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: What's up?

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Speaker 8: Guys?

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Speaker 4: What up?

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Speaker 9: We all we all know these things that I'm stating.

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Speaker 9: But it's just pure curiosity, man. I just raised with

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Speaker 9: chat CBT, just doing a little review and basically saying

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Speaker 9: what we all already think, Like, hey, while they show

535
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Speaker 9: free agents that aren't on the market yet, and to

536
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Speaker 9: not scare them away, make up preemptive moves.

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Speaker 10: You know, got some.

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Speaker 9: Guys show some confidence, so we have every chance to

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Speaker 9: get these guys. To leads to the next point that

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Speaker 9: guys that have shown true production in the draft and

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Speaker 9: these couple of names, and that's all I got for

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Speaker 9: you guys, But it goes as guys like Peter Woods,

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Speaker 9: Dion Walker, Brandon Dolores, Jay Higgins and Killan Demon have

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Speaker 9: all shown a lot of production.

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Speaker 11: And there's chat's just saying like these are what other.

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Speaker 9: Teams do to be consistent, sure to get it back

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Speaker 9: and run it back. I mean, I wonder what you

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Speaker 9: guys think. It's not too early to start talking about that,

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Speaker 9: to be clear.

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Speaker 3: To be clear, hearon Ian, you're saying that you want

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Speaker 3: the Bengals to draft players who have product been productive

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Speaker 3: in college.

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I love the free thing, but we don't have

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Speaker 9: that luxury right now.

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Speaker 11: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I thank you for the phone call. It's

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Speaker 2: something I touched on this yesterday to Austin. I think

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Speaker 2: with where this roster is, and again most talked about

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Speaker 2: it a lot. The psychoanalysis of Joe Burrow and things.

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Speaker 2: He said, the way in which you view the draft

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Speaker 2: should change now for the Cincinnati Bengals because they have

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Speaker 2: They've prioritized the physical freaks right the numbers, what they jump,

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Speaker 2: what they run, what their shuttle looks like, and then

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Speaker 2: they rely on, Okay, we'll develop this player, and that

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Speaker 2: has work. Listen, Miles Murphy played the season much better

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Speaker 2: at this point. You don't have three years to wait

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Speaker 2: for a guy to figure it out.

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Speaker 3: You need.

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Speaker 2: You need to go to the eye test, watch college football,

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Speaker 2: and if a dude is making plays at the highest

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Speaker 2: level of college football, then trust that he's going to

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Speaker 2: make plays at the college level, even if maybe they're

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Speaker 2: they're forties a half step slower, or their broad jump

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Speaker 2: or whatever metric you rely on. Go back to the

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Speaker 2: idea of does this guy make plays when he's on

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Speaker 2: the field? Quote you need those players.

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Speaker 12: Quote.

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Speaker 3: We are taking a hard look at everything we do

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Speaker 3: as we approached this off season with focused determination to

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Speaker 3: build a championship caliber roster that wins consistently. That's from

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown earlier this morning. That means you are looking

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Speaker 3: at the way you evaluate talent and are open to

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Speaker 3: changing it and you're exactly right. Time is running out,

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Speaker 3: clock is ticking. You can't be waiting on upside. You

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Speaker 3: can't be waiting on Miles Murphy to develop. Three years

587
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Speaker 3: strapped on development, and to their credit, last year they

588
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Speaker 3: took Demetrius Knight Junior, who's what twenty four to twenty

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Speaker 3: five years old, with the idea of this dude's going

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Speaker 3: to come in right away and there's not going to

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Speaker 3: be this waiting period.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it didn't quite work out that way, as is

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Speaker 3: something that happens with rookies a lot. But I talked

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Speaker 3: about this on Friday. I did Cincinnati Sports New Year's Resolutions,

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Speaker 3: and towards the top was focus on production, not traits.

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Speaker 3: What you have to do? Uh, what's up, Johnny.

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Speaker 10: Tony Austin, Happy Monday? How are you good?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm great, John, I'm great.

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Speaker 11: Austin, You'll be happy. I didn't drink as much yesterday

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Speaker 11: as I normally do.

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Speaker 10: Wow, that's a new year, new league, right.

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Speaker 3: Wow, It's just it's a moist January, not quite dry.

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Speaker 11: But you know, well, if you want to know, my

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Speaker 11: New Year's resolution is to go sober from Super Bowl

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Speaker 11: to Saint Patrick's day. That's like one month. Okay, that'll

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Speaker 11: be my cleanse, my cut. We'll see if the halfs

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Speaker 11: If I may, I just want to brief comment on

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Speaker 11: my lovely presidents of Football Mike ground comment today, and

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Speaker 11: then I would like to give a public address to

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Speaker 11: the city of Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: If I may please.

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Speaker 11: The first The first part is I actually, in some

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Speaker 11: ways I am not as upset as other Bengo fans

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Speaker 11: and Deason ticket holders from what I got told today,

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Speaker 11: because pretty much what I got told today is this

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Speaker 11: is your last year. That's pretty much what I feel

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Speaker 11: like I got told. Because you think about it, t

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Speaker 11: Higgins and Tamar Jase's contracts run through twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 11: So now I feel like the Bengals are like, look,

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Speaker 11: we'll give you one more chance, Zack. If you don't

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Speaker 11: get it, we need two years of a new regime.

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Speaker 11: They need at least two years to get something going.

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Speaker 13: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 11: So I think this is their last year. So that's

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Speaker 11: why I'm as upsets, like, all right, one.

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Speaker 4: Way, here, let's go.

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Speaker 14: That's how I feel.

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Speaker 4: Wow to the City of Cleveland.

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Speaker 10: As I am leaving my.

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Speaker 11: Seat yesterday, when the Browns beat the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 10: I got barked at.

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Speaker 11: I got, you know, just cold, you know, have at

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Speaker 11: them Brownies and hop.

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Speaker 4: At them Bungles.

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Speaker 11: And I just want to tell Cleveland, I just want

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Speaker 11: to tell you something. The AFC North has existed since

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Speaker 11: two thousand and two. Okay, that's twenty plus years of existence.

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Speaker 11: The Bengals has won the division six times.

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Speaker 14: The Clouds I've never won.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 11: The Bengals have been just three super Bowl The Crowns

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Speaker 11: have never been to a Super Bowl. The Bengals the

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Speaker 11: Browns this year when it actually mattered the Browns the

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Speaker 11: Bengals when they probably shouldn't have. So for all you

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Speaker 11: Cleveland Browns fans that come from that lovely city up

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Speaker 11: north that smells a little bit, I just want to

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Speaker 11: tell you enjoy your lovely w and we'll see you

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Speaker 11: next year.

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Speaker 15: That's all.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Johnny Well said, thank you. And obviously the

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Speaker 3: most important statistic there is that the Bengals lead the

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Speaker 3: all time series with Cleveland fifty six to forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Did you view along with Johnny's thoughts as that's Mike

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Speaker 2: Brown's way of saying it needs to be figured out now.

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Speaker 3: I think there was a little bit of pressure placed

658
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Speaker 3: on them. I know that that the Bengals, you know,

659
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: had thoughts in twenty nineteen when they were struggling about

660
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Speaker 3: if they made the right decision.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they.

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Speaker 3: I think the way things went in twenty twenty they

663
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Speaker 3: felt better, and obviously things got better after that. I

664
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Speaker 3: don't think that the people in the front office, Mike

665
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Speaker 3: and Katie and Troy, are particularly thrilled with the way

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Speaker 3: this year went, because they did change a lot of

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Speaker 3: the things that they that we've asked them to change,

668
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Speaker 3: and they came up with the plan and the plan

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Speaker 3: didn't work. And I think that, based off Diana Russini's reporting,

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and other players have privately vouched to ownership

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Speaker 3: on behalf of Zach Taylor, and so I think that

672
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Speaker 3: may have bought Zach a little bit more time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and oddly enough, I wasn't as close to the

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Speaker 2: fire Zach as I have been to the Duke side

675
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Speaker 2: of things. I agreed, and that's kind of where I've

676
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Speaker 2: been as far as where things are aut right.

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Speaker 3: But I do think, you know, we talked about this year,

678
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Speaker 3: is Zach going into the season with pressure and start

679
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Speaker 3: to and oh, everything is the way you want it,

680
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Speaker 3: and then you get the new about Burrow And so

681
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: for me, that kind of bought him that extra year

682
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Speaker 3: and that time and that excuse. They were close in

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Speaker 3: all those games, they weren't really embarrassed other than one

684
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Speaker 3: or two of them. Yeah, and so for that reason,

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Speaker 3: I think you go into this offseason just about everybody

686
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Speaker 3: is fully healthy. They're gonna if they continue the trend

687
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Speaker 3: that they've been on, they're gonna not just sit on

688
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Speaker 3: their hands. They're gonna do something. They try to improve

689
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Speaker 3: the team, and the heat will be right back on.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, why not as soon as possible

691
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Speaker 2: get the Risener deal done.

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Speaker 3: Sure, you know he played well.

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Speaker 2: He spoke yesterday in length that he wants to be

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Speaker 2: here and Joy's playing next to MEM's and Karis and

695
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Speaker 2: appreciate Scott Peters and wants to be in this system,

696
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Speaker 2: in this city. He's not gonna break the bank. That

697
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Speaker 2: would be one of those forward thinking moves. Okay, let's

698
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Speaker 2: get this in, let's put this, let's put this on

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Speaker 2: ice said, let's move on to the next.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that bothered me about last offseason

702
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Speaker 3: is it felt like they waited on the Higgins and

703
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: Chase and Hendrickson deals before they felt like they could

704
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Speaker 3: pivot to anything else. Now you don't have that excuse

705
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Speaker 3: this year now. Hendrickson maybe, but I think we all

706
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Speaker 3: agree that that's probably the end of that marriage there, sure,

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Speaker 3: And so now it's like, okay, let's get a jump

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Speaker 3: start on this thing. And so Chase Brown, DJ Turner,

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Speaker 3: all guys, I think deserving of extensions.

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Speaker 4: Get it done.

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Speaker 3: You've got plenty of cap space, not just next year,

712
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Speaker 3: but in the years after that. Now's the time. John

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Speaker 3: from Boston, what's up?

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Speaker 4: John?

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Speaker 11: Happy New Year, Tony, Happy New Year. On Friday for Austin,

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Speaker 11: good job, fellas. As always, a couple of things I

717
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Speaker 11: want to complain about the offense. First of all, they

718
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Speaker 11: play with such a slow pace. I mean, how many

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Speaker 11: times do we have to wait and see the play

720
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Speaker 11: call comes in, the huddle breaks at fourteen seconds, Joe's

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Speaker 11: at the line of scrimmage, changing protection, maybe checking out

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Speaker 11: from a run play to pass play, and then you

723
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Speaker 11: end up with what six pre snap penalties yesterday? I mean,

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Speaker 11: when you have your offensive lineman sitting in a stance

725
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Speaker 11: for that long period of time sometimes you know, they

726
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Speaker 11: lose concentration. They shouldn't, but they do. So those are

727
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Speaker 11: things that have to be cleaned up. I think one

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Speaker 11: thing that could happen Zach Tiller is going to stay

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Speaker 11: back as head coach, as you guys have informed us,

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Speaker 11: I would look in a different direction of the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 11: Could you bring Brian Callahan back, maybe as assistant head

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Speaker 11: coach whatever, and get play calling duties out of Zach

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Speaker 11: Taylor's hands. Then he becomes more of a CEO coach

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Speaker 11: and you kind of speed that offense up a little bit,

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Speaker 11: because it's frustrating watching that offense sometimes when they just

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Speaker 11: take forever to get into plays and they should play

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Speaker 11: with pace. They have a quarterback that's tremendous on his

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Speaker 11: feet with his mind. You get these great wide receivers

739
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Speaker 11: and it seems like he's playing into the hands of

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Speaker 11: the defense bright blowing things down.

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Speaker 3: Yep, agreed.

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Speaker 2: I just I think moving faster this offense already puts

743
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Speaker 2: enough pressure on you that the higher tempo which you play.

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Speaker 2: I mean they talked about it last night with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: When Aaron Rodgers started going a little bit more tempo,

746
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Speaker 2: he got way more comfortable in that game. I would

747
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Speaker 2: like to see him put more pressure on opposing defenses,

748
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Speaker 2: especially with the not just the slow nature in which

749
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Speaker 2: they've played at times, but just how many times this

750
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Speaker 2: year has this team had delay of games or you know,

751
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Speaker 2: procedure penalties where they're just taking too long to get

752
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Speaker 2: a play in and have to burn a time out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that would be one of my questions

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Speaker 3: for Zach if I was talking to him today. You

755
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 3: know again, Mike Brown said, taking a hard look at everything. Well,

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Speaker 3: I think procedural, there were too many pre snap issues,

757
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Speaker 3: there were too many timeouts burnt, There were too many

758
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Speaker 3: play call problems. How are you as a head coach

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Speaker 3: going to fix that this offseason? And are you willing

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Speaker 3: to give up the play calling if that means the

761
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Speaker 3: offense runs more smoothly. It can still be collaborative. Zach

762
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Speaker 3: talks often about it being collaborative. That's all done during

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Speaker 3: the week, but on game day, Zach's the one calling

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Speaker 3: the plays. Well, you can still be collaborative and do

765
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Speaker 3: all that stuff during the week, but on game day

766
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Speaker 3: somebody else is calling in the plays right, and is

767
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Speaker 3: you know the situation and the hash and the down

768
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Speaker 3: and the distance and all that is being communicated in

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Speaker 3: a more efficient way. I think that's got to be

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Speaker 3: a goal. Yep.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And oftentimes we see that Borrow's helmet doesn't even work,

772
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Speaker 11: which you complicates problems well.

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Speaker 3: And that might be that might be a league thing,

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Speaker 3: because I swear that happened a lot yesterday. I mean,

775
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was very frustrated last night. I don't know

776
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Speaker 3: if they got to re evaluate that, but that's been

777
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Speaker 3: seemingly a big issue all throughout the league. Well.

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Speaker 11: Last week Daryl Johnson had a great quote during the

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Speaker 11: Bengals game. He said, I don't think Borrow really needs

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Speaker 11: anything in his helmet himself, which I would be fine with,

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Speaker 11: to say the league. And before I go, just as

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Speaker 11: far as these interceptions, these tip castes and so forth,

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Speaker 11: I think since he's come back that Borrows so cognizant

784
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Speaker 11: of getting ready to the football quicker. He wants to

785
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Speaker 11: be that type of quarterback. But with that leads to

786
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Speaker 11: a lower complex completion percentage, also might lead to more tipball.

787
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Speaker 11: He's gonna have to find that fine line where he's

788
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Speaker 11: getting rid of the ball quicker but still being who

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Speaker 11: he is. What makes him so fantastic is he processes

790
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Speaker 11: better than any quarterback. He hangs in the pocket, he

791
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Speaker 11: navigates the pocket, and how many great rows is he

792
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Speaker 11: made as he's getting nailed. You don't want that to happen.

793
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Speaker 11: But that's kind of what separates him from most other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 11: So you've got to find that fine line. And I

795
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Speaker 11: think he will next year. And again I just juggle

796
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Speaker 11: coaching staff a little bit and get a different play

797
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Speaker 11: caller in here to loosen up this offense. And by

798
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Speaker 11: the way, has had the same play call for six years,

799
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Speaker 11: maybe grown Stale.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, John, Thank you so much, man.

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Speaker 4: Have a great.

802
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Speaker 3: Day you two guys, Yes, sir, one final break here

803
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Speaker 3: in our number one. We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll try to finish up the phone lines, and as

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Speaker 2: we get to our number two, we'll look ahead to

806
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Speaker 2: the playoff weekend upcoming. The odds are set, the game

807
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: times are set, and the matchups are set.

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Speaker 3: We'll dive into those as well.

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Speaker 2: To kick off hour number two right before your talkbacks

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Speaker 2: on the Monday midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: WCPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Monday midday quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

813
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: We'll look across the rest of the National Football League

814
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: and get you set for the playoffs upcoming this weekend,

815
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Speaker 2: wild Card weekend that happens just around one o'clock before

816
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Speaker 2: we get to a break. One final phone call here

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Speaker 2: and I were number one, Gunner, what's happening.

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Speaker 16: Hey, guys, how we doing today? Happy post holiday? I

819
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Speaker 16: thought they were good. Well, you got time with your families.

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Speaker 3: Thank you you too, Gunner.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I wanted to call in. I man, I wanted

822
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Speaker 16: them to lose that game so bad yesterday in the

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Speaker 16: last three games, to be honest, I just thought, from

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Speaker 16: an organization's perspective, let's lock into a top pick once.

825
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Speaker 16: It doesn't matter, you know. So I wanted to lose

826
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Speaker 16: yesterday's So I'm okay with that. The fact that this

827
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Speaker 16: coaching staff went out there and tried to win the

828
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Speaker 16: game against this Browns team and couldn't do it tells

829
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Speaker 16: you everything you.

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Speaker 4: Need to know.

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Speaker 16: And the fact that they're bringing this crew back together

832
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 16: is disappointing, you know it. I know we're all we

833
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 16: all have that same feeling of you know, Burrow, he's

834
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Speaker 16: turning thirty right, you know, we know about the injuries

835
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Speaker 16: and everything, and it just.

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Speaker 4: It's tough.

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Speaker 16: You know, it's tough sitting here as a fan after

838
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Speaker 16: the season's over and you're like, man, they might never

839
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Speaker 16: be good again for all we know. You know, I

840
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Speaker 16: don't know how it's an organization. You come off of

841
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Speaker 16: the the AFC Championship game, lost to the to the Chiefs,

842
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Speaker 16: and you roll into that season or no, I'm sorry,

843
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Speaker 16: that's the year Burrow got hurt. So the next season,

844
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Speaker 16: right when Browning came in and we were close. The

845
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Speaker 16: next season, they didn't do anything to that defensive line,

846
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Speaker 16: didn't do anything to that defense. You know, my dad said,

847
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Speaker 16: I think the Patriots come out and beat us Week one,

848
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Speaker 16: and I was like, you're crazy.

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Speaker 4: Won't happen.

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Speaker 14: He said, they don't have anything.

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Speaker 16: On the defense. He was right, He was right that

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Speaker 16: whole season. And then they do the same thing this season,

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Speaker 16: and I just, man, it's so frustrating. And then yesterday

854
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Speaker 16: when I want them to win, you know, to lose

855
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Speaker 16: the game, and they win, and they lose the game but.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to win. It's I'm almost even more.

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Speaker 16: Upset about that. Just man, it's it's so frustrating, but

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Speaker 16: I'll hop off.

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Speaker 3: I hope you guys have a great rest today.

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Speaker 16: Happy to have you back and look forward to hearing

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Speaker 16: from me soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Gunnar, I appreciate it. I guess that's the

863
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Speaker 2: thing for me. If that was truly trying to win

864
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Speaker 2: the game, then that's a terrible loss. It's a bad

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Speaker 2: Cleveland team. But again, I struggle to find the middle

866
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Speaker 2: ground of Joe Burrow gives us the best chance to win,

867
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Speaker 2: winning matters and then watching how the game unfolded, surely

868
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Speaker 2: that wasn't the best path to get to win. It

869
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Speaker 2: was at some points, let's go in with a game

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Speaker 2: plan that's going to get the ball out of Joe's

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Speaker 2: hands quickly and go from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd never really felt like the Bengals were trying

873
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: to win. And maybe in the last little bit, you know,

874
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: they're just trying to go down there and find a

875
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: way to win and we'll see what happens. But it

876
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: never felt like for the entirety of the game they

877
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: were trying to win. Yeah, at least to me.

878
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: And again, we could go back and forth about Joe Burrow,

879
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter because he did get through the

880
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: game healthy and he's going to go into the offseason healthy.

881
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

882
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: So I already Number one was don't get that guy hurt. Correct.

883
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: Mission accomplished.

884
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: We will dive into the rest of the playoffs, and

885
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: I think a coaching conversation that is able to be

886
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: had based on looking across these playoffs. I still can

887
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: tend Austin that you can find probably seven or eight

888
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: coaches that are more than deserving of winning Coach of

889
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: the Year in the National Football League defensive and Offensive

890
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year odds right now, you remember earlier

891
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: in the year, Austin, when a mechag Buka was like

892
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: a runaway favorite to win Offensive Rookie of the.

893
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 3: Year, that entire team fell off the cliff.

894
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: Now old Tito McMillan from the Carolina Panthers, the playoff

895
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: pound Carolina Panthers, Tito, the Magnificent Tito. The McMillan is

896
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: the odds on favorite. Trayvon Henderson made a late push.

897
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: He's been awesome for the New England Patriots. Tyler Shuck

898
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: is up there as well. Defensive now, Demitrius Knight is

899
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: not in the top ten here, Austin, but listen to

900
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: some of these names and tell me if any may

901
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: mean anything to you. Donovan as Arakill, Is that a

902
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: name we talked about at all?

903
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: That was a name that I was adamant to be

904
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: should draft him.

905
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: Had a great year for the Cowboys as a rookie.

906
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: They didn't go to his pro day at Boston.

907
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

908
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: Gee, Hot Campbell. We talked about him a lot. Yeah

909
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: he's up there. Xavier Watts, Yeah, he's fourth on the list.

910
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, yep. Is it a man of Warri Nick

911
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: Manawori nick Emon Warri. Yeah, yes, he's up there. Really

912
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: good season. James Pierce was a name that was thrown

913
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: around a little bit. Yeah, all those players in the

914
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: top ten of Rookie of the Year voting right now.

915
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: Carson Schwestinger, he's gonna walk away with it.

916
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 3: Who I wanted desperately, And I believe the Brown took

917
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: with the first pick in the second round. Yep. That

918
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: you know, I talk about winning, taking the wind out

919
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: of your sales. Yeah, thats what happened to me right there.

920
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: Yep, as it goes right now. Coach of the Year odds,

921
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is the favorite at plus seven hundred. Mike Rabel,

922
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, Who who's your.

923
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: Demiko Ryans is mine? Okay? Because I thought that team

924
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: was gonna stink, and they don't have an offensive line

925
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: and the way that that that defense and the way

926
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: that that offense is kind of woken up. And obviously

927
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: they didn't have the most difficult schedule on planet Earth,

928
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: and not maybe the most difficult division, but I mean, hell,

929
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is in there, and Indy was eight and one

930
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 3: at one point. I think it's Tamiko Ryans and Mike.

931
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 4: They lost c. J.

932
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: Stroud for a good chunk of that. They won eight

933
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: nine straight games, and three of them came from Davis Mills.

934
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: Sure, Mike Rabel is currently the odds on favorite to

935
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: win Coach of the Year.

936
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

937
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: I guess because they were so bad a year ago.

938
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: I can understand that. But they also spent hundreds and

939
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars in free agency. It felt like, uh,

940
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 3: and we're very aggressive. But if you want to give

941
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: Rabel credit for that, okay, but could.

942
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: You not make cases for Kyle Shanahan, Ben Johnson, Sean Payton,

943
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, Mike McDonald, Mike Rabel. You mentioned me, Demiko Ryans.

944
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, Demiko Ryans is my choice, and then I would

945
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: put Liam Cohen at second.

946
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

947
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: I've been big on the Jags from the very beginning.

948
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: One of the most impressive wins of the years, what

949
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: Seattle did in San Francisco over the weekend.

950
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, my top three would be Demiico Ryans, Liam Cohen,

951
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald.

952
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: Which is crazy right now because I I can be

953
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: sold on the Demico Ryans and he's not in the

954
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: top six of odds. Yeah, that's what I don't understand.

955
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: It's is crazy this year. How many coaches you can

956
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: make an argument for.

957
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: It just depends like when do you start the clock?

958
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: Who start the clock, Like from the moment the Super

959
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: Bowl ends, or from the moment the ball gets kicked

960
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: off in Week one. Yeah, that's my question because from

961
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: the moment the ball gets kicked off to week one

962
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: to where they are now. I mean, Houston's a road

963
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: favorite at Pittsburgh and they're going to blow the doors

964
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: off the Steelers.

965
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: Now, Pittsburgh, I think like twenty three straight Monday night

966
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: football games at home. Watch out they've won twenty three

967
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: at home, right, twenty three in a row.

968
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: That's coming to an end.

969
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk about that game and more to kick

970
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,240
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Speaker 2: in just a moment. Did you want to did I

991
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: tell you, Austin what happened to me when I arrived

992
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: in Memphis?

993
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: You did not the hotel.

994
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: So obviously I flew at a different time than when

995
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: the team went to the hotel. The team left days earlier.

996
00:49:54,719 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: So I get in and the team is at So

997
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: normally when you travel with the team, when you get

998
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: to the hotel and you're with the team, there's just

999
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: like a table with envelopes and your name on it,

1000
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: and you grab your room key and you go up

1001
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: to the room. I traveled separately, so I asked John Whittikin,

1002
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: who controls all of this? I said, what do I

1003
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: need to do when I get there? Just to grab

1004
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: my room key and drop my stuff off? He says,

1005
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: I'll just go to the front desk and they'll get

1006
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: you in a room. Your name's on the list. So

1007
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: I go to the front desk, they give me a key.

1008
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: As I'm waiting on the elevator, the lady from the

1009
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: front desk comes like springing around the corner, yelling my name.

1010
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh.

1011
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: Oh, so I I stop, come back, come back out

1012
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: of the elevator. She's like, I'm so sorry. I just

1013
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: saw that the room I gave you hask people in it.

1014
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: You don't want to go in there. I was like, yeah,

1015
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: that's good to know. Let's go back to the front

1016
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: desk to get this sorted out.

1017
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: Good safe.

1018
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: So like ten minutes go by and she's searching for

1019
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: a room and what to do, and she gets like

1020
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: her manager involved in.

1021
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: What time of day was this? This is like before noon? Okay,

1022
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: so that did makes sense. Yeah, maybe your room hadn't

1023
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 3: been flipped.

1024
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: Correct, So I was supposed to have the room for

1025
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: the entire time the team was there.

1026
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: But whatever.

1027
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: So then they come back and they say, well, we're

1028
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: having trouble locating a room, but we see here that

1029
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: we have a king room available, but it's a handicap room.

1030
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: Would you be okay with that? And I was like, well,

1031
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: if that's all it's available, that's fine with me. So

1032
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: I get the room key, I go up to the room.

1033
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: I opened the door and as the door's opening, I

1034
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 2: hear whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

1035
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1036
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: So the door's already opening at this point, it opens fully.

1037
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: There's a woman sitting on the bed. There's a man

1038
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 2: standing like as he just got up because the door

1039
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: was opening, and there are I would say two hundred

1040
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: rose petals on the floor. Oh I mean this was

1041
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: a moment between these two.

1042
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yes.

1043
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: So as I'm opening the door, the first thing I

1044
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: see are like rose petals on the ground, and the

1045
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: door keeps opening, and then here's this woman sitting on

1046
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: the bed. Oh my god, here's this guy now standing

1047
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: up looking at me. Yeah, she gave me like a

1048
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: triple take, Like she looked at me, looked at the

1049
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: guy she was with, looked at me, looked at the

1050
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: guy she was with. At one point I wondered, like,

1051
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: did she think that that I was part of the gift?

1052
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say.

1053
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: So I'm like.

1054
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: Now, like the look on her face is a lot

1055
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: different than the look on.

1056
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: The guy's face.

1057
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: Of course, So then I'm just like frozen, you know,

1058
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: do I just offer them towels?

1059
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: Like what do you do?

1060
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: At this point? And I just I swear I shut

1061
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: the door so fast and got to the elevator so fast.

1062
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: Went back downstairs, like you just sent me to a

1063
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: room and there's I shouldn't be in that room.

1064
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1065
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: Ended up like twenty more minutes go by. They're like,

1066
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: well all we have is a queen. I'm like, that's fine.

1067
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 2: I just want a room that's mine.

1068
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: I want one that doesn't have other people in it.

1069
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: They they were celebrating something good for them, and I

1070
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: think that woman thought for a moment I was part

1071
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: of the celebration.

1072
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: You think she was disappointed.

1073
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: She's just like, you got rose petals and now a

1074
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: delivery man here. I hadn't seen the rose petals before

1075
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: at the hotel row. I mean, this guy went all out.

1076
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: Credit him.

1077
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: Love in the air in Memphis town was something going

1078
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: on and before noon. It was before noon, so so

1079
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: this was gonna be a big day for them.

1080
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: This What were they wearing?

1081
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 18: Uh?

1082
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: So the guy just had on shorts and like a

1083
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: beater okay, and the woman had on what looked to

1084
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: be pajamas.

1085
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: Okay, so like a like a net in her hair.

1086
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

1087
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: So they had probably stayed there the night before, yes,

1088
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: and had woken up. Yeah, so I had imagined that

1089
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: those rose petals, do you think they were from the

1090
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: night before. Yeah, yeah, maybe she was surprised, Like, wow,

1091
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: you dirty dog. I would imagine those you waited until today.

1092
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: I would imagine those two were a little bit low

1093
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: on sleep. Yep, if you know what I mean, you

1094
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: waited until today for my last gift. Come on now,

1095
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: just me deer in headlight, look opening up the door.

1096
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 4: I love.

1097
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: I would love to know the way that they are

1098
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: telling that story.

1099
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: Yep.

1100
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: This guy that walked inham anyway, he was so sweet,

1101
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: he did so much for me.

1102
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: But yep, it's kind of weird at the end. So

1103
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: shout out to the Hilton Memphis man. Shout out to

1104
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: the Hilton Memphis.

1105
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: That is, Like I I wish I could say I

1106
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: was surprised, I know, but like I don't know what

1107
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: it is about you big. I don't know either. I

1108
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: don't know it seems to you. I don't know. I

1109
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 3: don't get it.

1110
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: The wild coll The NFL playoffs are set. We know

1111
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: what the matchups are, and we know what the matchups

1112
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: are Austin, because of what happened over the weekend. The

1113
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Bucks beat the Carolina Panthers on Saturday.

1114
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: But because the Bucks didn't take care of business the

1115
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: week before, and the Falcons had beat the Rams. It

1116
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: came down to the Rams and they are the Saints

1117
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: and the Falcons on Sunday, which actually was a good game,

1118
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: competitive game. Falcons edged the Saints, which means the Carolina

1119
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 2: Panthers are in the playoffs. They are the four seed

1120
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: in the NFC. We'll get to their opponent in just

1121
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: a moment. Any other games of meaning that happened on

1122
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: Sunday kind of took care of themselves. The Jaguars dominated

1123
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 2: to win that win their division. They beat the Titans

1124
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: forty one to seven. Texans then beat the Colts thirty

1125
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: eight to thirty. Although I thought Riley Leonard was pretty

1126
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 2: good in his debut against a good defense in the Texans,

1127
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce is gonna get paid a monster game. Four catches,

1128
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty two yards, two touchdowns. Bill's rolled

1129
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: without Josh Allen. I think one of the more disappointing

1130
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: results was probably the Bears offensive output against the Lions.

1131
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: Lions went into Chicago and won that game nineteen to sixteen.

1132
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: Broncos needed to win to be the number one overall seed.

1133
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: They did just that against the Chargers without Justin Herbert

1134
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: Chiefs Raiders. That was a fun one fourteen to twelve.

1135
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: Rams beat the Cardinals to get the five seed in

1136
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: the NFC. Patriots dominated the Dolphins. What would the Eagles

1137
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: doing in their game? Did the Eagles lose seeding by

1138
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: losing the game of the Commanders.

1139
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't seem to care, no if it was

1140
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 3: if they were the two seed or the three seed. Yeah,

1141
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 3: but they probably should because San Francisco's coming. Correct.

1142
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: The final game of the night and carry the most

1143
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: weight for the day was Ravens Steelers.

1144
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 4: It was a.

1145
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: I thought, a great game all around. The Ravens trailed

1146
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: what thirteen to ten going into the fourth quarter, and

1147
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: then an offensive explosion happened in the fourth quarter twenty

1148
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: seven combined points, including a couple clutch touchdown drives from

1149
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers some Lamar Jackson magic with two touchdown passes

1150
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: to Zay Flowers. But as mentioned earlier, it did come

1151
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 2: down to a forty four yard field goal. Ravens got

1152
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 2: into field goal range and I believe had thirteen seconds

1153
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: on the with one time out. Instead of trying to

1154
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 2: get more yardage for a kicker that has struggled this year.

1155
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: The Ravens elect to just center the ball with Lamar Jackson,

1156
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: allow the clock to run down, and the field goal

1157
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: at the gun goes right. Steelers win. Steelers advance to

1158
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: the AFC playoffs. So here's what we get in the NFC.

1159
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: The Seattle Seahawks are the one seed. The Chicago Bears

1160
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: Austin are the two seed. Here come the green Bay Packers,

1161
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: and they are favored in Chicago.

1162
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't quite understand why green Bay is favored in

1163
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: this game. I mean, I guess Jordan Love is coming back,

1164
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: but their defense has been rattled with injuries. They've kind

1165
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: of fallen off a cliff in some ways. Maybe because

1166
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: of the Chicago defense, this could be a bit of

1167
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: a shootout.

1168
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1169
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: But now I'm seeing that the Bears are favored. Okay,

1170
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: so the line has shifted, but I believe it started

1171
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: with green Bay being fake.

1172
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: Green Bay this morning, right before the show, I wrote

1173
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: down the spreads right before the show, green Bay was

1174
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: a one.

1175
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: And a half point favorite. Okay, well, so if that changed,

1176
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: there's a chance that this site is wrong.

1177
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: So okay, no, you're right. So ESPN has it now

1178
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: in Chicago one and a half point favorite.

1179
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.

1180
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: So either way, yep, that's a Saturday game at eight o'clock.

1181
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what's interesting. You know, Matt Lafleur did not

1182
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: have his contract extended. There was a change in leadership

1183
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: in the front office of Green Bay this offseason. There

1184
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: hasn't really been this overwhelming amount of support. There hasn't

1185
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: been a lack of support, but there hasn't been this

1186
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: we believe in Matt Lafleur type of thing. The Green

1187
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: Bay locals are not thrilled with the way that offense

1188
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: has performed. You talked about the stat last week that

1189
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: they've been the seventh seed ever since twenty twenty when

1190
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: they expanded the playoffs, And this is your biggest rival.

1191
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: If the Bears we're to easily handle the Packers on

1192
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: Saturday night, I think there's a chance the next er

1193
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: Bank Coach Opening is going to be in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

1194
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 3: Oh and Matt Lafleur could.

1195
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 4: Be out of the cannon.

1196
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: How about that?

1197
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1198
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: Uh, we mentioned the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC. They

1199
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: don't care about yesterday's results or they're the three seed

1200
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: which means they'll host the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

1201
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: Right now, Philip, you rather play the Packers right now.

1202
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: Philadelphia is a four and a half point favorite in

1203
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: that one. The other game on Saturday is going to

1204
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: be the number four seed in Carolina Panthers, they host

1205
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: the Rams. Rams are a ten and a half point

1206
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: favorite in that one. I feel like the Rams getting

1207
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: the five seed was significant. That's a significant win for them. Yeah,

1208
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: and obviously that would have been the coveted seed for me.

1209
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: I agree on the AFC side of things with their win.

1210
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: Denver is your number one overall seed. The two seed

1211
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 2: in New England, Patriots are going to welcome into Los

1212
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers, who rested justin Herbert yesterday. That's a Sunday

1213
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: eight o'clock game. Chargers are getting three and a half

1214
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: in that one. Do you see a scenario where the

1215
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: Chargers can beat the Patriots?

1216
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 4: No? I don't.

1217
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't either.

1218
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: Number three seed now, this this to me is a

1219
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: good one. I hate that it's the one o'clock game

1220
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: on Sunday, but it will be must see TV. Arguably

1221
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: one of the hottest teams in the foot in the

1222
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: in the game, Jacksonville welcomes in a guy and a

1223
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: team with a ton of pressure, Josh Allen. Here it

1224
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: is Buddy, no Burrow, no Lamar, no Mahomes. What are

1225
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: you gonna do with it? Buffalo right now a one

1226
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite in Jacksonville.

1227
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: That should be a good.

1228
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: One to me.

1229
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: That will be about can Josh Allen put up enough

1230
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: points to keep up with Jacksonville. I mean, their offense

1231
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: is just really hitting its stride right now. Buffalo's defense

1232
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 3: has some question marks. I feel like Liam Cohens a

1233
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: really good code when it comes to the particular game

1234
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: plans and the little stuff that can take advantage of

1235
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: a defense. And also, I mean, look at the way

1236
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: that Baker Mayfield has fallen off without Liam Cohen yep,

1237
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: And I think there might be something to that. And

1238
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: they're in his ability to coach quarterbacks and to specifically

1239
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: coach offenses. I think there's something there for Jacksonville. The

1240
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: Bills are on upset alert as far as I'm concerned.

1241
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: How crazy is it the Houston Texans win their final

1242
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: nine games and cannot win the AFC South because the

1243
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: team they were chasing one their final eight Yeah, speaking

1244
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: of the Houston Texans. That is the final game of

1245
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: the weekend. That's the Monday night tilt the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1246
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: Welcome in the Houston Texans. Texans right now a three

1247
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite. If you're looking at one.

1248
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: To scratch the itch and place a wager right now,

1249
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: that's the when you're taking on Houston minus three, that's

1250
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: the one you like. By the time the game kicks off,

1251
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 3: it might be five and a half. Houston's gonna blow

1252
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: the doors off Pittsburgh. Okay, look at you scratching the

1253
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: ch early. I haven't placed a wager in months.

1254
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I know it's the hot

1255
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: button topic because we're talking about coaching here already with

1256
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, But if you look at what's sprinkled

1257
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: across this weekend Austin, look at what Canallis has done

1258
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: with the Carolina Panthers, and I know that eight and

1259
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: nine is not but that team is ahead of schedule,

1260
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out that flea flicker. He calls,

1261
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: we know what the rams are with Sean McVay. Matt Lafleur,

1262
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: say what you want if he becomes available, he'd become

1263
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: the top option for pretty much every team. The Chicago

1264
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: Bears have a first year coaching, Ben Johnson, who has

1265
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: completely changed that franchise. The Jacksonville Jaguars, Austin, you just

1266
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: mentioned Liam Cohen has completely changed that franchise. Look what

1267
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: Sean Payton has done in two years in Denver. Look

1268
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: what Mike McDonald has done with the Seattle Seahawks. Those

1269
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: are your two number one seeds. We've talked about Mike Vrabel,

1270
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: talk about what Shanahan is with the forty nine ers

1271
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: and Demiko Ryans. You can't get to this point, Austin

1272
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: and tell me that coaching and coaching advantages aren't crucial

1273
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: at this time of the year. And the difference that

1274
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: coaches can make in the NFL, we're seeing it on

1275
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: display in the NFL playoffs this year. I just I

1276
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: know that again, I'm not as I'm not as bullish

1277
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: on Zach Taylor coming back to this organization as I

1278
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: am with Duke Tobin openly coming back to this organization

1279
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: right now. But the decision was made very quickly from

1280
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: Mike Brown. It was put out there very quickly today

1281
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: that Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin have the support of

1282
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: the organization, and you hope that they are right in

1283
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: that assessment because these teams that will be playing, they

1284
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: all get advantages from their coaches. They have distinct advantages

1285
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: when they go into games that their coaches give them

1286
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: them and they get the most out of the player,

1287
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: and they and the scheme. I go back to it again,

1288
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: The scheme seems to match the personnel perfectly with a

1289
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: lot of these teams. I watched that Seattle game the

1290
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: other night, Austin. I couldn't name a Seattle defender. They're good,

1291
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: they don't have it, to my opinion, a ton of

1292
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: superstars on that defense. But they are to me, the

1293
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: definition of what they want to do schematically matching how

1294
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: that personnel matches up.

1295
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And they've had two really good drafts

1296
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: back to back. I mean, Josh Schneider is a very

1297
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 3: good track record of being able to draft and develop

1298
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: on defense and that continues even without Pete Carroll. With

1299
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald and yeah, yeah, I mean, I think there's

1300
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 3: two teams here that could see head coach changes if

1301
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: they are to lose. I think Philadelphia would be surprised

1302
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Speaker 3: if Nick Sirianni got canned if they are to get

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Speaker 3: blown out at home, and obviously, as I mentioned Green Bay,

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01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. Coaching has always mattered.

1305
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 3: How exactly do you mold your team in the image

1306
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 3: of yourself and in the image of your coordinators, and

1307
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: what exactly your scheme is is and how do you

1308
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 3: bend it around to what your players are good at.

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01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: I think that's a huge, huge part. I mean that

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01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: you think the Chargers have had major offensive line issues,

1311
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: they found a way in Houston has had major offensive

1312
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: line issues, they found a way in Carolina. Not entirely

1313
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: sold on them, no, but I've been schedule, but they

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Speaker 3: found a way to win their division San Francisco. We've

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: talked a lot about their injuries. Now they've had the

1316
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 3: easiest schedule in all of the NFL, but they also

1317
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 3: played a division with the Rams and the Seahawks and

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01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: they found their way into the playoffs. Yeah, I agree

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 3: with you. Coaching matters in a big, big way. But

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Speaker 3: also I think the development a lot of young players

1321
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 3: that have developed on the defensive side of the football

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Speaker 3: for every single one of these teams is a reason

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Speaker 3: they are in.

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Speaker 2: The Before we get to our break. One quick phone

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Speaker 2: call here Vivian is waiting.

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Speaker 19: What's up, Vivian, Hi, I just wanted to let you

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Speaker 19: know that I've had tickets for U see football for

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01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 19: more than fifty years, and I saw the worst play

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 19: I've ever seen UC do. It is pouring down rain

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Speaker 19: in Memphis. We're playing a good team and we do

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 19: some sort of a reverse talk seeing them, was that

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01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 19: the worst play you've ever seen in the It was

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Speaker 19: pouring down rain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pouring down rain. And the play you're

1335
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: alluding to, they gave the ball to Cyrus Allen on

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: a reverse and he tried to flip it back to

1337
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: Brady Lichtenberg and there were three defenders already in the backfield.

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Speaker 2: It was an awful play. I thought it was an

1339
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: awful time because it felt like for the first time

1340
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: that they had a little bit of momentum going in

1341
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 2: the game and they gave.

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: It right back to Navy with that play. I agree exactly.

1343
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 19: I couldn't agree with you more.

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01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 3: What were they That's a great question.

1345
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 19: It would be a great question to ask, because, first

1346
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 19: of all, is pouring down raid. You have people throwing

1347
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 19: the ball around that are not used.

1348
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 16: To throwing the ball around.

1349
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 19: Yeah, and you call that play, yep.

1350
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 15: I agreethleet.

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 19: I've been going to UC game because they're dead for

1352
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 19: years and years, and I have to say, that was

1353
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 19: the worst play I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Vivian, I appreciate it. Thank you.

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 19: I think you could do a whole series. People could

1356
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 19: call in and say, what's the dumbest play I've ever

1357
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 19: seen a coach call that one will be up.

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Speaker 4: There for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Vivian, Thank you have a great thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the play Vivian is alluding to Austin. I think for

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01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: many it was frustrating because UC was down just twenty

1362
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: one to seven at the time, and they had started

1363
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 2: the series with a thirty six yard run, so they

1364
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: were down to the Navy thirty six yard line and

1365
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: uh yeah, they hand the ball to the running back,

1366
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: who flipped it to Cyrus Allen, who then tried to

1367
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: flip at the Brady Lichtenberg and the ball was fumbled

1368
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: and you see, never really recovered in the game.

1369
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,959
Speaker 3: Dave Canalis and Yep, Scott Saturfie watching the same game,

1370
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 3: playing in the rain, Hey, let's toss the ball.

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01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 4: Around a little bit.

1372
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Speaker 3: What better time than now. They never would expect it.

1373
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Your talkbacks are next on the Monday midday Quarterback ESPN

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Alexa, what's going on?

1377
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 20: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone.

1379
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 3: Please keep it clean and don't be mean.

1380
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 4: And a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.

1381
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 21: It's our favorite partner since three sixty.

1383
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 4: So Austin buddy, play those bookbacks.

1384
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 21: On your screen and please try not to sabotage.

1385
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 2: All right, a new set of talkbacks here on the

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Speaker 2: Monday midday quarterback. After the end of the Bengals and

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: the Bearcats football seasons.

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01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 22: This unbelievable magic o'ron at the Indiana Hoosiers. Yes on

1389
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 22: the grid iron, and football continues Friday, the peach ball

1390
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 22: against Oregon Go Hoosiers. The Bengals need to do what

1391
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 22: Arthur Blank did hours after the Falcons game yesterday.

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01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 4: Get them out and ride them out.

1393
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 3: Let's go rank them.

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 5: Up, all right.

1395
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 23: Fella's Start Bench Cut twenty twenty six Draft edition.

1396
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 2: With that tenth overall pick, what would.

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Speaker 3: You do with it?

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01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 11: Not.

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 3: What do you think will happen?

1400
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 17: What would you do with it?

1401
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 3: Don't overthink at audience.

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 24: Would you take the best player available, take the greatest

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01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 24: need available?

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 3: Or would you try to trade the pick either up

1405
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 3: or down?

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01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: What you call at this point? If they're not going

1407
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: to re up on Geno Stone, which who knows? Maybe

1408
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 2: Al Golden sees more on Geno Stone than I would

1409
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: do everything I could to get Caleb downs start.

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: It's a start bencher cut.

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01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll start. I guess he would be the biggest

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01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: need for me. I'll bench moving up or down, and

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: then I'll cut the other you're cutting best player available? Yeah,

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01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: all right, I'm starting best player available. I'm benching trade

1415
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 2: again running would take a running back to trade up?

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01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,919
Speaker 2: What if Jeremiah Love was the best player available?

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 3: He's not, so I would then cut the biggest need

1418
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: because drafting for need in the top ten is how

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01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 3: you get in trouble.

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 25: Turning tone, mister Gilmore at your boy Alex and Silverton turning.

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you've been hearing this, but.

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Speaker 25: A lot of people are saying Michigan gets another win

1423
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 25: over Ohio State because they may handle them in their game,

1424
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 25: causing Ohio State to lose the next two. And then

1425
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 25: I have a would you rather? Would you rather take

1426
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 25: the Bengals offensive players to make a tackle after a

1427
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 25: fumble or interception or the Bengals defense to stop an

1428
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 25: opposing team with under two minutes left to.

1429
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: Win the game. I would rather put it in the

1430
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 3: offensive players making a tackle. I'll put it on the defense.

1431
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 18: Great Sharonville first and goal, a minute and a half

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01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 18: to go. The play by play guys saying, well, maybe

1433
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 18: the Bengals out of one running play, take some time

1434
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 18: off the clock, and I'm saying no, just score. As

1435
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 18: bad as Sanders is, I know we can get a

1436
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 18: stop on him. Little do I know fitting into the

1437
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,520
Speaker 18: season as Zach said.

1438
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, fitting end of the year, So dors Sanders carving

1439
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 2: him up on a game winning drive.

1440
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 26: Hey guys, Tony from Lovelm here as a Bearcat fan,

1441
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 26: just disgusted in how the basketball and football teams before

1442
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 26: this weekend, we lose our quarterback equits on the team

1443
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 26: goes get paid five million dollars by Tech Tech, and

1444
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,879
Speaker 26: I don't see anyone coming in Do you see anytime

1445
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 26: soon to save the quarterback room? Hey Tony, how much

1446
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 26: nil money would take for you to get on the

1447
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 26: field for at least one season two million dollars.

1448
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 2: I figure you'd do it for one hundred bucks two million.

1449
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: I'll go play next year.

1450
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: Hey guys, is O'Brien in the RBA boys?

1451
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 20: Anyways, as I sit here and I reflect on the

1452
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 20: previous year, when I look at all the things we've accomplished,

1453
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 20: that you see Clifton as far as athletic goes, what

1454
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 20: really stands out to me?

1455
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 27: What really takes the cake so impressive is our transition

1456
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 27: to Ticketmaster. I mean, what a smooth and beautiful transition.

1457
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 27: It has set us up for success.

1458
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,440
Speaker 3: Back day one, Ready, day one, well said.

1459
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:02,520
Speaker 12: Good old lucol do for that and never brought to mine.

1460
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 12: Sod oh dove, hard games be forgot in the days

1461
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 12: the turnt runs, For the days the turnment runs. My

1462
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 12: texteed walk for turn the mit runs. We'll take a

1463
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 12: shot of whiskey yet for the days of old days.

1464
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 5: Side.

1465
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: Wow, well done, hey man.

1466
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 4: New year, knew me.

1467
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 13: Tony in Austin, Congratulations to our boy Joe Burrow for

1468
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 13: finally making it into the NFL record book. Tony, I

1469
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 13: hope you had safe travels for the UC game. I

1470
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 13: got some question for you. Would you rather have Scott

1471
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 13: scatted the field coaching the basketball team or West Miller

1472
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 13: coaching the football team.

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 3: Have a great day, gentlemen. Man, that's a tough question.

1474
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: Right now, I'll say I'll say, coach that right now.

1475
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: Well, Happy Black Monday.

1476
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 28: Everybody has a rap on the twenty twenty five season

1477
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 28: for the Bengals, it doesn't and with the bang it

1478
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 28: ends with a whimper. Zach Fober complained about the game.

1479
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 28: Stop it from Miles Garrett's twenty third record breaking sack

1480
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 28: of the season. Come on, Zach, you're not fighting for

1481
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 28: your lives out there. You're out there trying to ruin

1482
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 28: a game that means absolutely nothing. The difference of six

1483
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 28: to ten, seven to ten don't mean squat other than

1484
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 28: drafts it And come on, dude, now we're onto the

1485
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 28: mock draft season.

1486
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, I thought that was I don't know

1487
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 3: if I'm on the mock draft tea. I've always been

1488
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 3: a you know, a Zach guy. I thought that was lame,

1489
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: the way he talked about the especially the way they

1490
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:38,440
Speaker 3: were playing themselves.

1491
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 29: Yeah, Tony's Jack Evan Kotcheojas onto the draft. Now, Yeah,

1492
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 29: I'd love Cable downs in the first I'd be surprised

1493
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 29: if he falls us there.

1494
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 3: But man, I've just got edge rusher.

1495
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 29: And offensive line fatigue. I just I don't want to

1496
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 29: see another one in the first. I know we need it,

1497
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 29: and I would love if we just addressed it in

1498
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 29: free agency, But man, I got no confidence in that

1499
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 29: picking a productive dresser, Yeah, it's understood.

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01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 30: Hi, guys, Happy New Year. I hope you had great holidays.

1502
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 30: Really enjoyed watching the game yesterday.

1503
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 11: You know.

1504
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:13,839
Speaker 3: One plus?

1505
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 30: The biggest plus I think right now is the Bengals

1506
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 30: ended their season with no major injuries. I think that's

1507
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 30: a plus going into next year. And Mike Brown, if

1508
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 30: you want to keep Duke tobing around and you don't

1509
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 30: feel the positions that need to be filled, got no

1510
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 30: one to blame but yourself. Hooday, guys, a.

1511
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 3: Little positivity there to go into the off season.

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01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 24: Els, it's the Lord was actually seeing things. Did Joe

1513
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 24: Burrow actually lay down? And then Miles Garrett touched him

1514
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 24: to get the sack record? And another thing, money, Mac,

1515
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 24: I want my money back. You were horrible yesterday let's

1516
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 24: get it together in the off season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the.

1518
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: Sorry he knew he was gonna go down on that play.

1519
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: He just wanted I think avoid a major hit.

1520
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 3: The hell well this one day, Roberts I heard, I

1521
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 3: mad kind of.

1522
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 31: I absolutely love me some Mycktoriko. I mean, he couldn't

1523
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 31: have set those bums up any better.

1524
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 3: I mean he said, you know.

1525
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 31: The Ravens have looked kind low their search throughout the

1526
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 31: galaxy to find the kicker for exactly this moment. And

1527
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 31: then he said, let's watch it, Unvold, and the guy

1528
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 31: missed it.

1529
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: Tariko was fabulous. He was so good during the Saturday

1530
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 3: yep or not Saturday. But that's the last two games

1531
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: he's done. He's been unbelievable.

1532
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 32: I mean, who didn't see this coming. I called this

1533
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 32: three months ago. I said, what's gonna happen is they're

1534
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 32: going to win the next two out of three games,

1535
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 32: and they're going to convince the fans that were making progress,

1536
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 32: we're gonna make progress and it's the same We're gonna

1537
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 32: bring the same coaches back. And I believe this is

1538
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 32: Burrow's biggest year in the twenty sixth season, because if

1539
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 32: they don't go far. He's leaving.

1540
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 3: I truly believe that. Okay, I don't. There was nothing

1541
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 3: about progress. Nobody said anything about progress. I think it

1542
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 3: was all about Hey, this didn't go the way we

1543
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 3: wanted it to go. Yeah, so.

1544
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 21: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan and oll. That

1545
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 21: was the perfect ending to the Bengals season. The offense

1546
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 21: looked good but gave away fourteen points. The defense looked

1547
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 21: good but couldn't make a stop when it mattered to most,

1548
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 21: and special teams, which looked good all year long, had

1549
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 21: a blocked and a missed extra point. But well, let's

1550
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 21: don't make any haste decisions or wholesale changes. There was

1551
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 21: just enough good to make Mike Brown ignore the bad.

1552
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 3: From the desk of Mike Brown.

1553
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 33: Hey, guys went to the game yesterday to watch Zach.

1554
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 33: We're playing for our lives out there, Taylor find another loss. Hey, Zach,

1555
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 33: I was fourteen twelve before half goo for two. Only

1556
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 33: two coaches yesterday in the NFL hired before twenty twenty

1557
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 33: three had career losing records, Kevin and Zach. Kevin got

1558
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 33: canned and Sir Prosser PRIs surprise, Zach and Coven stick around.

1559
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 33: I love the players on this team, well most of them,

1560
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 33: but this is unequivocally the stupidest organization in all of sports.

1561
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:23,919
Speaker 3: Happy New Year, fellas.

1562
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: Can I tell you the play that made me the

1563
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: maddest yesterday? What's that when they lined up on fourth

1564
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 2: down and didn't go for it and they took the

1565
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 2: delay game and punted.

1566
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 4: Yep?

1567
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: I about lost my mind.

1568
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: Yep, as you should have.

1569
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 3: That was It's game. It's week eighteen. That was like

1570
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 3: one of those where I'm like shaking my head like really, yeah,

1571
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: like what do you have to lose?

1572
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 4: I get it.

1573
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: They weren't trying to win, and they made that abundantly clear.

1574
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 3: So that's the type of move you make when you're

1575
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 3: not trying to win a football game. But it was,

1576
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, right after the end of the

1577
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 3: the third quarter or into the first quarter. Was that,

1578
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 3: because yeah, they had lined up and then it was

1579
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 3: the end of the quarter and then they came out

1580
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 3: and did that. Yes, like you thought, like, all right,

1581
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: they're just getting to the quarter and they're going to.

1582
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 4: Go for it. So dumb yep.

1583
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to have to You have to retrain

1584
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 3: your brain in week eighteen, because.

1585
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: But any thing about week eighteen means that's just one

1586
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: you just you go ahead and go for.

1587
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 3: It, not if you're playing for a draft. Oh my gosh.

1588
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 34: Duke, it's Ian with obsessed Cincinnati fran Central. Are we

1589
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 34: going to be preemptive and go after an adult free

1590
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 34: agent that can secure the room? And also are we

1591
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 34: going to draft for production that would go a long way?

1592
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 3: We would think, Yeah, those are things I both hope happened.

1593
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: Ian called and left to talk back, saying the same thing.

1594
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 4: Have sea tree green.

1595
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 15: Red roses to Wow Zach to him in his back,

1596
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 15: Duke Tolman, and I think to myself, we are so screws.

1597
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 3: That's good as well.

1598
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 23: Let's see how do I formulate my words? Surely, like

1599
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 23: Joe Burrow needs therapy. It was obvious yesterday. Miles Garrett

1600
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 23: is in his head. He scared the death of him.

1601
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,520
Speaker 23: Joe Burrow is not looking down in the field. He's

1602
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 23: looking out of the corner of his eye to make

1603
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 23: sure Miles isn't like putting him into retirement.

1604
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 3: What we're gonna do. It's a fair worry. I think

1605
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 3: mostly everyone needs therapy. I can't recommend it.

1606
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 4: This is DJ.

1607
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 3: This would be my question for Duke on Friday. Injuries.

1608
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 35: Aside Duke, every team in the league has injuries. What

1609
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 35: are you going to do to build a team that's

1610
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 35: going to manage through injuries? And Taylor coach through injuries

1611
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 35: and or poor execution. That's going to change what's happened

1612
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,440
Speaker 35: over the last three years of not reaching the playoffs.

1613
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 35: What can we expect it'll be different?

1614
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 4: Yep.

1615
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 3: It's one of the word that I have written down

1616
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 3: for this offseason is depth. It's not a fun topic,

1617
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 3: it's not a sexy topic. It's probably a pretty boring topic,

1618
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 3: but it is one of the most important parts of

1619
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 3: any football team. The Bengals did not have the depth

1620
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 3: to withstand injuries this year. Great teams figure it out

1621
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: when their best players are hurt. Bengals have to be

1622
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 3: better at building the bottom of that roster and also

1623
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 3: get guys that can start in are capable.

1624
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 8: What up, guys, I'm from Saint Louis driving home after

1625
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 8: another loss. You know, I'm actually glad the Browns were

1626
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 8: able to march downfield and kick that field goal to

1627
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 8: end the game, like so many other teams have done

1628
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 8: to the Bengals this year because with the off, with

1629
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 8: the defense playing better down the stretch, I think Tobin

1630
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 8: would have came out on Friday and said, hey, you

1631
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 8: know we finally got that stop to end the game. Well,

1632
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 8: now we can't do that and maybe we can get

1633
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 8: some changes.

1634
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 36: Hood boys.

1635
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: I also know that it really grinds the gears of

1636
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 3: one Mike Brown to lose to the Cleveland Browns. Yeah,

1637
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 3: the question I would ask Duke Tobin is a two parter.

1638
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 3: One do you really know what you're doing? And two

1639
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 3: are you really in charge of anything? Or just to

1640
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 3: figure hit Today? I still love Moe's question, why can't

1641
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 3: you fix this? Yeah?

1642
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 5: Hey, Tony, Hey Austin, Jeff and New Richmond, Happy New

1643
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 5: Year to you. As far as the Bengals go, it

1644
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 5: kind of went the way I expected it to. The

1645
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 5: letter from Mike Brown rings hollow Tony. I'd like to

1646
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 5: get your opinion on the John Cunningham letter, which I

1647
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 5: believe is a slap in the face to every U

1648
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 5: SEE alumni and fan. So let me know what you think.

1649
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I think, much like Mike Brown's letter

1650
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: for UC fans, it falls on deaf ears because we're

1651
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 2: we're in the now right that it's very hard to

1652
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,919
Speaker 2: see and buy into that when you watch the football

1653
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 2: team lose its last five football games, when you've seen

1654
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 2: the start of the season that basketball has and to

1655
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: kind of be told how great things are and how

1656
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 2: much is needed and things like that, that's tough because

1657
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,799
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people have given already

1658
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: and have continued to give in hopes of seeing this

1659
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: vision play out, and it's just not come to fruition

1660
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: at this point.

1661
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1662
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty tone deaf, especially coming off

1663
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 3: of the dominance of China in the Rose Bowl. It

1664
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: was like, okay, all right, you want to remind everybody

1665
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: you're the guy who didn't hire Kurt Signetti. Yeah, it's

1666
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 3: tough if it were me, if I were, well, I'm

1667
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 3: not going to say anything with regards to Brendan Sorosby.

1668
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 37: I think we can kind of remove our emotions and

1669
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 37: take a real look at what he has meant for.

1670
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 37: You see, is his legacy, what he's meant for the

1671
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 37: team and the program. You know, does he belonged on

1672
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 37: the Mount Rushmore?

1673
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 4: And I think he does.

1674
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 37: Personally, I would put him up there, probably right next

1675
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 37: to Benedict Arnold and Judith Start.

1676
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: How there is right now in Times Square, New York,

1677
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: a huge billboard with Brendan Sorosby and Texas Tech on it. Really,

1678
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is a national Brandon. They are spending a

1679
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: ton of money.

1680
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: But their identity is not that they're good at football.

1681
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 3: Their identity is that they're rich. Yeah, the College Football Playoff,

1682
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: that's cool. They got smoked twenty three to nothing. They

1683
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: weren't competitive at all. So that's what I'm saying, like

1684
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 3: the plan or like, at some point your identity has

1685
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: to be winning football games. So that's what I'm most

1686
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: interested with with Texas Tech. Let me also say this

1687
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: about Soresby. It's easy to rail on him because he

1688
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 3: was terrible at the end of this year. However, I

1689
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 3: do think he deserves a little bit of credit because

1690
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 3: he did come back. He had opportunities to leave last

1691
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 3: year for a lot of money, and he chose to

1692
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 3: come back to Cincinnati for a lot less money. Do

1693
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: you know what's scary to me?

1694
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 2: And I do think he deserves credit for that. And

1695
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 2: here's what's worrisome to me for next year. Dante Corleone,

1696
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: Jake Goldey and Joe Royer will all be drafted into

1697
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 2: the NFL. They had Cyrus Allen, who is the now

1698
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: score record holder with touchdown receptions in a year. Evan

1699
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 2: Pryor and Tylie Walker were very good running backs. The

1700
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: offensive line gave up three sacks all year and was

1701
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,839
Speaker 2: voted one of the best offensive lines in the country.

1702
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 2: And Austin, their starting quarterback, was just the most highly

1703
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: touted quarterback in the transfer portal. And yet they only

1704
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: won seven games and lost their final five.

1705
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 14: Tony, I'm guessing you covered this on your UC football

1706
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 14: radio broadcast, but I can't believe Saderfield did not use

1707
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 14: a timeout with two seconds left in the first half

1708
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 14: to save fifteen yards at the start of the second

1709
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 14: half because the Bearcat running back hit the midshipman in

1710
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 14: the back of the helmet, who did not even tackle

1711
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 14: him after the false start.

1712
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 3: Duh, did you see that unfold? I did. I didn't

1713
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 3: get to see it till the second half.

1714
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: The last play of the half, UC has the football.

1715
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: They are just running the clock out. They have a

1716
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: pre snap in fra action on the play and Manny

1717
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: Covey runs the ball and as he gets up he

1718
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: punches the Navy player in the back of the head.

1719
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: So they throw a fifteen yard penalty now under ten

1720
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: seconds or however money under so many seconds left in

1721
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: the half, a penalty requires a ten second runoff, you

1722
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So then you see has the

1723
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: option to accept the ten second run off there was

1724
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 2: two seconds left on the clock, or allow the ten

1725
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: second runoff to happen. Scott Sadderfield allows the ten second

1726
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: runoff to happen. What's that mean for that fifteen yard

1727
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: or Austin.

1728
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 3: It's not gonna affect you in the second half. No,

1729
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 3: it does affect you in the second half.

1730
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 4: No, yeah, yeah.

1731
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 2: So if Sadafield takes the time out, there's two seconds left,

1732
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: they move the ball back fifteen yards and you just

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01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 2: take a knee. Correct by not taking his time out

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01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: the last play of the half, you then have to

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01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: kick from the twenty yard line instead of the thirty five.

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01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: It's maddening. He was real buttoned up, sap up.

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01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 7: Guys, missed two point conversion. That's going to It's Joe

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01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 7: Burrow's back all off season. But I did a little

1739
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 7: seven round mock the other last night at peter Woods

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01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 7: in the.

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01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: First round, LT over pretend in the second.

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01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 7: Uh, D'Angelo Hans even got Zach zacharyyah Brand from Georgia.

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01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 3: Good slot. We need that.

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01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,959
Speaker 7: Jacob Rodriguez in the fifth. That's production why Dad Williams

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01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 7: is a safety. Then I went Burry and Brown. Then

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01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 7: I stuck in and got Drew Aller last round. I'll

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01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 7: take Drew Allen right now.

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01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Okay, here here's a here's a hot take. I don't

1749
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 2: think Burrow wanted to complete the two point conversion.

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01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 3: You know what, have you been talking to people in

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 3: this office, because there is a belief by some people

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01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 3: in this office that Burrow missed.

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01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 2: That's either defense gets to stop and we ain't going

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01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: to ot. I'd have been good with that.

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01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 3: I just for the record, I do not care about

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01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 3: mock drafts until Wednesday, April the twenty second. Okay, that

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01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 3: is the day before the NFL Draft. Okay, and that's

1758
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: when like Peter Schrager and Daniel Jeremiah and all those

1759
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 3: guys who know what they're talking about release their mock drafts.

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01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 3: They're fun, we'll talk about them. We'll do mock draft mondays,

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01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh we will. That's going to hat, don't you worry.

1762
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 3: But it's all just hot air until April to twenty second.

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01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned, that was our last right.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break one segment. I'm assuming when we return.

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01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: Oh what the hell? Hour number two ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station, The Monday Midday Quarterback.

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, Welcome in Black Monday edition of The Monday

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Speaker 3: Midday Quarterback Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. My name is

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01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Austin Elmore. Happy to be with you for this final hour.

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01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 3: About forty minutes from right now, we'll check in with

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01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 3: Tony Pike and Moeggar ahead of the final Tony and

1782
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 3: Mo football show of the season, putting a bow on

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01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 3: the Bengals six and eleven twenty twenty five season. I

1784
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 3: wanted to win yesterday number one, because I always want

1785
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 3: to beat the Cleveland Browns. Number two, because winning is

1786
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 3: hard and life is short, and you should always want

1787
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 3: your favorite team to win football games. But I understood

1788
01:30:53,320 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 3: the lack of effort, desire need to win that football game,

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01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 3: and I understood that the health of the players was

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01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 3: probably a little bit more important. I think there were

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01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 3: some business decisions made across the team yesterday. Obviously a

1792
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 3: bad taste in your mouth to once again see the

1793
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 3: Bengals take a lead late and see the defense give

1794
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 3: it up, especially hard to swallow when it's up against

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01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 3: a quarterback like shad Or Sanders, who is one of

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01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 3: the worst that I've ever seen, and against the division

1797
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 3: rival in the final week of the season. However, the

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01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 3: Bengals are picking tenth in the NFL Draft. That is

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01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 3: a good thing. The higher you pick, the better your

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01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 3: chances are of getting a player that's gonna help your

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01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 3: franchise and This team needs better players, especially on the

1802
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. The big news of the

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01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 3: day is the statement released by the Bengals, but by

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01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 3: Mike Brown that says the Bengals are going to stick

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01:31:55,920 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 3: with Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin moving forward. For Mike

1806
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 3: Brown calls them the right leaders to guide us forward.

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01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 3: They have proven they can build and lead teams that

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01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 3: compete for championships. I agree with Mike on that Duke

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01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 3: Tobin has in the past helped put together a plan

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01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 3: and constructed a team that has been very good and

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01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 3: has competed for championships. The problem is that we are

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01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 3: now three years in a row no postseason appearances. Two

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01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 3: of those years had brutal Joe Burrow injuries that missed

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01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 3: either more than half the season or at least half

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01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 3: the season, and that can't be ignored. But the issue

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01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,719
Speaker 3: is that there's been no development from the young players

1817
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 3: and the plan that they have had to fix it

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01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 3: hasn't worked. And to me, the finger points primarily back

1819
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 3: at Duke Tobin, but it also points at the head coach,

1820
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor and a lot of Bengals fans that I

1821
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 3: see on social media and again I know that social

1822
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 3: media does not speak for the majority of people, but

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01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 3: it is what I see the most. A lot of

1824
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 3: people are upset that Zach Taylor is returning as the

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01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 3: head coach, and I get it. You should have a

1826
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 3: bad taste in your mouth by the way things have

1827
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 3: gone over the last two years, especially last year. This year,

1828
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more graceful in my evaluation because

1829
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 3: of the injury to Joe Burrow, but the defense got worse.

1830
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 3: The players really didn't develop. There were a couple that

1831
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 3: I feel like are if you look at the chart,

1832
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 3: they're going up into the right, albeit slowly. But overall,

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01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 3: it just felt like another lost year, another insane year

1834
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 3: from Jamar Chase, another pretty good year from Burrow when

1835
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 3: he was healthy, and you just look around and think, gosh,

1836
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 3: what could have been? And you're doing that again, And

1837
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 3: Bengals fans should be upset. You should uphold the standard,

1838
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 3: and the standard is a lot more than six and eleven,

1839
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 3: or at least it should be. And so I understand

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01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 3: the frustration of wanting Zach Taylor to no longer be

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01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 3: the head coach of the Bengals. And if the Bengals

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01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 3: would have come out today and announced that they were

1843
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 3: firing Zach. It would have been difficult for me to

1844
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 3: argue against it.

1845
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 4: And I am not going.

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01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 3: To sit here and argue that Zach should be the

1847
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 3: head coach. But all I can do is look at

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01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 3: the facts of the matter, where they currently stand, who

1849
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 3: is in positions, and what they might be able to

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01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 3: do to change so that they can get back to

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01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 3: that championship caliber roster that wins consistently, as Mike Brown

1852
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 3: put it in his statement earlier today.

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Speaker 28: And so.

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Speaker 3: The big thing that I take away is that Mike

1855
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 3: mentioned Duke Tobin and mentioned Zach Taylor together in this statement.

1856
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 3: To me, that ties those two together. That means it's

1857
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 3: not just Duke, your family and Zach you're the head coach.

1858
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 3: It is you guys are in charge of making the

1859
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,799
Speaker 3: football team as good as it can and we're believing

1860
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 3: in you guys for now. But for the first time,

1861
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin is mentioned. And to the Bengals credit, they're

1862
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 3: making Duke Tobin available to speak with the media on Friday.

1863
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,839
Speaker 3: They deserve credit for that. It is the bare minimum.

1864
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 3: It should have been happening for years and years and

1865
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 3: years now, But hey, now it's happening. That's a good thing.

1866
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 3: I look forward to Duke's answers. I look forward to

1867
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 3: the questions that are asked of him, because a lot

1868
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 3: of this falls on him now and not all of it.

1869
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 3: A lot of it falls on Zach Taylor as well.

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01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 3: I think Zach needs to take a long look at

1871
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 3: the way that the game day operation works. We talked

1872
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: about this a little bit earlier today. There are too

1873
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 3: many pre snap issues. There are too many issues with

1874
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 3: getting the play call in in time. There is substitution problems,

1875
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 3: there is timeout stuff like that happens too much for

1876
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 3: a guy at this point in his career as a

1877
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 3: head coach, and especially as a guy who's been with

1878
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 3: the same quarterback for the vast majority of that time.

1879
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 3: And so I have no problem with the way Zach

1880
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 3: does the offense and the play calling and all that.

1881
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 3: And he talks about it being collaborative. The effort to

1882
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 3: play call is collaborative. During the week, they come up

1883
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 3: with here's our favorite calls, here's what we like to do.

1884
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 3: Let's put him into the game plan, and Zach goes

1885
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 3: off of that during the game. I don't think Zach

1886
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 3: is a horrible play caller. I would not put Zack

1887
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 3: in the category of elite play callers. I think he

1888
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 3: is a capable and good enough play caller. But I

1889
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 3: wonder if when it comes to situations communication down in distance,

1890
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 3: get you know, understanding the play clock er, what all

1891
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 3: the little stuff that you have to have a full

1892
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 3: scope and understanding of as a head coach, I would

1893
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 3: like to see Zach reevaluate whether or not someone else

1894
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 3: is going to be the guy who actually, on game

1895
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 3: days is calling the place. That doesn't mean that Zach

1896
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 3: has no impact. That doesn't mean that he has no like.

1897
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 3: It doesn't take away from Zack other than hey, Dan

1898
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 3: Pitcher or whoever is going to be the guy who's

1899
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 3: getting in the yearhole of Joe Burrow right as soon

1900
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 3: as the clock opens up at twenty five seconds. He's

1901
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 3: not screaming at an official, or he's not trying to

1902
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 3: figure out where the misshold was, or whatever it might be.

1903
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 3: I think there's some ego in that, and I hope

1904
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 3: that Zach Taylor will relinquish it. If you remember, prior

1905
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 3: to Brian Callahan getting hired by the Tennessee Titans, there

1906
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 3: was a conversation that Zach had, I believe in a

1907
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 3: conversation with Dave Lapham where he was starting to think, Okay,

1908
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 3: maybe I need to give up the play calls and

1909
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 3: let Brian do it, and maybe that's what's holding him

1910
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 3: back from being a head coach or whatever. And while

1911
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the right mindset for whether or

1912
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 3: not you give up play calling is worrying about other

1913
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 3: people and how it affects them, I do think that

1914
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 3: he needs to be open minded in the sense of, okay,

1915
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 3: is me calling the plays in some way, shape or

1916
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 3: form taking away from our offense. And this is not

1917
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 3: to say that the offense is the issue, because I

1918
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,600
Speaker 3: don't believe that it is. However, it is one of

1919
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 3: the things that Zach Taylor needs to be better at.

1920
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: And maybe if he's able to put a little bit

1921
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 3: more of his time and effort into the game situations,

1922
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 3: or into the defense, or into the communication with Al

1923
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Golden or whomever it might be, then the Bengals can

1924
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 3: be a better football team, a more cleaned up operation

1925
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 3: because of it. When Mike Brown writes in his statement

1926
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 3: that we are taking a hard look at everything we do,

1927
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 3: that would include stuff like this, and it should be

1928
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 3: it better be on the list of things that Zach

1929
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 3: Taylor needs to clean up going into next year, because

1930
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 3: I do believe that a statement like this is putting

1931
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 3: the pressure on Duke and Zach. I read into it

1932
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 3: as Okay, the right people have vouched for you, and

1933
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 3: you are under contract. We'll give you another opportunity, and

1934
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 3: we know that you can do it, but it's time

1935
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 3: to prove it. Because I know losing doesn't sit well

1936
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 3: with Mike Brown. I know that's a thing. Everybody calls

1937
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 3: me a shill for the Brown family. I get, I

1938
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 3: hear that all the time. The fact of the matter

1939
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 3: is they don't like to lose either, and they've been

1940
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 3: much more open in the way that they approach the

1941
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 3: franchise and the changing and the different philosophies, and it

1942
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 3: hasn't worked. And I'm sure that doesn't sit well with them,

1943
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Speaker 3: just like it doesn't sit well with us as fans.

1944
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 3: But you've got to follow up what you say with

1945
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 3: what you do, taking a hard look at everything we do.

1946
01:39:56,200 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 3: That includes how you draft, how you practice, how you

1947
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 3: call plays, how you structure your coaching staff, how you

1948
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 3: structure your front office, how you communicate. Everything has to

1949
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 3: be looked at because the standard is a lot more

1950
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 3: than six and eleven. I've said that multiple times. I'm

1951
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 3: trying to hammer home that point. I think a lot

1952
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 3: of people saw that Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin are

1953
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 3: coming back from this statement thought, okay, status quo. Well,

1954
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 3: there's a commitment in here to take a look at everything. Now,

1955
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 3: there's not a commitment to say we're going to change

1956
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 3: everything that we do, but there is a commitment to

1957
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 3: look at everything and be fully committed to delivering the

1958
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:45,480
Speaker 3: results that match the pride, passionate expectations of this organization

1959
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 3: and our fans. According to Mike Brown, okay, well you've

1960
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,719
Speaker 3: put the cheese on the cracker. Time to figure it out.

1961
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 3: And you know I was talking about you know, I

1962
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 3: think this season obviously didn't go the way that anybody

1963
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 3: expected it to go, and Burrow being hurt is a

1964
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 3: huge part of that. I know that this is not

1965
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 3: going to be a popular take, but I don't think

1966
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 3: they're that far away. And I know that this is

1967
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 3: you know, something that Tony and I have butted heads

1968
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 3: on a little bit. Other people have butted heads on,

1969
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 3: Like when you look at their schedule next year, when

1970
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 3: you look at their salary cap and the amount of

1971
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 3: money that they have. When you look at their draft position,

1972
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 3: they're going to be picking in the top ten of

1973
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 3: every single round. There is a path there to turn

1974
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 3: it around sooner rather than later, and I think that's

1975
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:47,799
Speaker 3: really important context for this upcoming offseason. Yes, the pressure

1976
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 3: is now on, but also the pressure's on because the

1977
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 3: path is right in front of you and you've done

1978
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 3: it before, so you better do it again. And the

1979
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 3: way I see this, you know, I posted about this

1980
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 3: over the weekend. I was told that Joe Burrow has

1981
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 3: been very adamant in his support for Zach Taylor to ownership.

1982
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 3: And I saw Diana Russini's report over the weekend that

1983
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 3: basically said the same thing that Duke or that Joe

1984
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 3: and Jamar and t have supported Zach Taylor to ownership,

1985
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 3: and I think that's part of the reason why he's back.

1986
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that early on in this season, despite

1987
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 3: having two years left on his deal, I don't know

1988
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 3: that the Bengals were convinced that Zach Taylor was going

1989
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 3: to come back next year, and they nor should they

1990
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 3: have been if the team was performing at the level

1991
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: that it was and certainly the way that the defense

1992
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 3: and the flip of the defense over the offseason didn't

1993
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 3: really seem to work. And I think they heard and

1994
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 3: felt the heat and the pressure on Duke. Tobin did

1995
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 3: it to the point where they're making him available Friday

1996
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 3: and included him in the statement. I think they're paying tension.

1997
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 3: And I've said this before that the outside noise matters

1998
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 3: to them more now than it ever has at any point.

1999
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Speaker 4: Now.

2000
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Speaker 3: Is that a lot, Maybe not, probably not, but it

2001
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 3: still matters more than it ever has in the past.

2002
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has already said this is as big as

2003
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 3: it gets for the offseason, and we're gonna play a

2004
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 3: little bit of Burrow here in just a second. Everybody

2005
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 3: should be upset by the way this season went. I

2006
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 3: don't think that bringing back Duke and bringing back Zach

2007
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 3: is an immediate next year is lost. I think there

2008
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 3: is an understanding of what they have to do to

2009
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 3: fix this team. I really do, and I hope that

2010
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 3: they feel and understand that pressure so that it can

2011
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 3: be addressed this offseason. And it feels like to me

2012
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 3: that that statement was indicative of the fact that they do.

2013
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Speaker 3: Let's hear from Joe Burrow. This is about a minute

2014
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 3: and forty five seconds or so of Joe Burrow after

2015
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 3: the game yesterday, talked about the organization, talked about free agency,

2016
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 3: his emotions this season and on the off season, and

2017
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:24,440
Speaker 3: fixing the team going into it. Here's the Bengals quarterback.

2018
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 36: Championship mindset is being matched organizationally? Do you see that?

2019
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Speaker 4: Do you feel that?

2020
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Speaker 36: I mean, I sure, hope so. I think I know

2021
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 36: everybody's frustrated right now.

2022
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 38: So it's hard to there's a there's a disconnect during

2023
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 38: the season. You know, we we're all down here and

2024
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 38: focused on the day to day and trying to get better.

2025
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 38: And it's their job upstairs folks on the big picture

2026
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 38: and where we need to go and who we need

2027
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Speaker 38: to be.

2028
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Speaker 36: So yeah, I know they're committed to that.

2029
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 39: When you guys are winning division titles and going to

2030
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 39: the AFC Championship game and went to Super Bowl Tip six.

2031
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 39: The big reason why there's some of your free agents

2032
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 39: that you guys brought in external guys.

2033
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: How important do you think for this organization?

2034
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Speaker 36: Yeah, that's that's that's that's of paramount importance. I think

2035
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 36: you have to.

2036
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 38: Identify where you're weak and figure out a way to

2037
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 38: be strong in that area. That's that's the NFL year

2038
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 38: in and year out. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't,

2039
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 38: but you have to attack that period with intent to

2040
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 38: get better. We certainly aren't where we want our need

2041
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 38: to be, not where I expect to be. So yeah,

2042
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 38: we we we have to we have to figure it out.

2043
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 36: We got to figure it.

2044
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Speaker 40: Out these next eight months for the organization, just to

2045
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 40: make sure that this drought ends at three so that

2046
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 40: it doesn't go to fourth eighty year computer for the

2047
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 40: division again, trying to get back to the planets, back

2048
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 40: the ac tell the game, etc.

2049
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 3: As big as it gets, Joe Burrow as big as

2050
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 3: it gets, I agree, I think, especially if Joe has

2051
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 3: pounded the drum for Tea and Jamar, and if he's

2052
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 3: pounded the drum for Zach, and if the lines of

2053
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 3: communication have been open, and if the Bengals have I

2054
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't want to say succumb to his demand,

2055
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 3: but have been on the same page with Joe in

2056
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 3: terms of that championship mindset, and it doesn't follow up

2057
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 3: if none of that stuff is met and followed up upon,

2058
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 3: and the expectations and the aggressiveness in the offseason are

2059
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 3: not put together and followed up on him struggling to

2060
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 3: find the words. Then I do think things get hairy

2061
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 3: next year, and understandably so, because the organization would then

2062
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 3: not be meeting the standard that the player, the franchise

2063
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 3: quarterback is trying to uphold. And those conversations about Carson

2064
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 3: Palmer and all that will happen again because this would

2065
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:10,839
Speaker 3: be this wouldn't be the first time it's happened between

2066
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:12,480
Speaker 3: the team and the quarterback.

2067
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Speaker 4: And so.

2068
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 3: Now you've said all the right things, it's time to

2069
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 3: do all the right things. It's time to be aggressive.

2070
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 3: It's time to supplement the roster. It's time to spend money.

2071
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 3: It's time to change the way you draft. It's time

2072
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 3: to do all the things necessary to rebuild this team.

2073
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 3: Last year you blamed it on bad luck and bad coaching.

2074
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 3: You don't have any of that to fall on this year.

2075
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 3: Phone lines are back open at five point three, seven, four, nine,

2076
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. They'll be open the rest of the show.

2077
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on the statement by Mike Brown, on the

2078
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 3: future with Zach Taylor, on anything that might be on

2079
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 3: your mind. This is the Black Monday edition of the

2080
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 3: Monday Midday Quarterback.

2081
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 4: You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2082
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 12: From the Court to the Cage, the Diamond to the Dome.

2083
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 6: He brings the heat Moeger Today at three pm on

2084
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 6: ESPN fifteen thirty, it's.

2085
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 3: The one hundred and twenty fifth season offer of Cleveland

2086
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 3: Shotgun Staff.

2087
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 41: Here comes Miles Garrett and he's got Joe Burrow. Browns

2088
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 41: fans standing up and celebrating as Miles Garrett has just

2089
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 41: become the NFL's single season record holder for sacks. The

2090
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 41: Browns are coming off the sideline to celebrate. They could

2091
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 41: be penalized for that.

2092
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 42: They could, They could. I guess the officials are taken

2093
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 42: into consideration. The enormity of the play, I mean, Miles

2094
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 42: Garrett unbelievable when you think of all the great pass

2095
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 42: rushers in the National Football League, for Miles Garrett to

2096
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 42: set a new single season sack record is nothing short

2097
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 42: of extraordinary.

2098
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 3: Incredible get off by Miles Garrett zero point two three seconds,

2099
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 3: he said, maybe his best get off of his career.

2100
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 3: The way he was able to get in the backfield

2101
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 3: so quickly. Burrow goes down, Garrett gets his twenty third

2102
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 3: sacks setting the NFL single season record set by Michael

2103
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 3: Strahan all those years ago. That was our call today,

2104
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 3: brought to you by Win Shulers. Fantastic chee spreads. Go

2105
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 3: to your local grocer, get you some wind schewelers. No

2106
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 3: better time than right now at Win Schulers. Zach Taylor

2107
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 3: appropriately getting reamed for his reaction to the Browns not

2108
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 3: getting penalized. Here's the Bengals head coach after the game.

2109
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 37: A long conversation with the officials after the Garrett sack.

2110
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 3: What was going on there?

2111
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 43: There's five minutes left in our season. We're playing for

2112
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 43: our lives here and I was never told that we're

2113
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 43: going to stop the game, and in a critical moment

2114
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 43: like that, and the refs just said that they made

2115
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 43: a decision that they were going to stop the game,

2116
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 43: and they said they tried to do it as quickly

2117
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 43: as possible. I didn't feel that we didn't sub. We're

2118
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 43: trying to be on the ball and go and play

2119
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 43: with tempo, and the Empire just held the ball so

2120
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 43: that we couldn't do anything. And I'm yelling at Joe,

2121
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 43: get on the ball. We didn't sub. We're going and

2122
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 43: then we couldn't play, and so again trying to get

2123
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 43: an answer was not easy. They just said that they

2124
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 43: made a decision as a as a crew to stop

2125
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 43: the game when that happened. I guess it didn't matter

2126
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 43: when it happened. It just they were going to stop

2127
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 43: the game. And though I was never informed to that,

2128
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 43: they didn't say one word. We meet with them in

2129
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 43: the ninety minute meeting before the game, they never said

2130
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 43: one word about that.

2131
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 3: Understandably, Zach Taylor should be frustrated with the officials for

2132
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 3: not telling him. However, acting as if we're playing to

2133
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl on that drive a little bit

2134
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 3: maybe over the top, not quite playing for your lives

2135
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 3: in this particular game. Historically, when long standing NFL records

2136
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 3: have been broken, the game has been stopped, you kind

2137
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 3: of got to be ready for it. But he should

2138
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 3: be upset if the officials and they meet with the

2139
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 3: coaches before every game never said anything to him. That

2140
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 3: is weak, for sure. But you got to read the

2141
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 3: room a little bit right there. If you're Zach, he's

2142
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 3: going viral for this. This video, this particular clip has

2143
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 3: millions and millions of views. He's getting roasted all over

2144
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 3: social media. When people already have a low opinion of

2145
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 3: you and you do something like this, that doesn't quite help.

2146
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 3: Although you know, Zach hasn't said or done a lot

2147
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 3: of stupid things. He's pretty buttoned up with the coach,

2148
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 3: you know, speak in the press conferences. But he let

2149
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 3: it fly right there. He wasn't happy about it, and

2150
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 3: I think his issue is more with the officials than

2151
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 3: it is with what actually happened. But still, I guess

2152
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 3: worthy of making fun of Zach Taylor a little bit

2153
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 3: on that one for a bit of an overreaction. Let's

2154
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 3: go to the phones. Let's talk to Jay in Cincinnati.

2155
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 3: What's up, Jay?

2156
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 10: I was you know what I'm saying. Really part to

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Speaker 10: be about the bingles is one that kicker they got

2158
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 10: down here. He had a pretty good decent year, but

2159
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:13,640
Speaker 10: his missus is just starting to bug me, you know.

2160
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 10: And I think they need to bring in some more

2161
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 10: competition next year to get him back in the saddle,

2162
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 10: you know. And and another part is the Bengals. They

2163
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 10: didn't play with no fire yesterday, you know. And and

2164
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 10: that's that problem right there. He didn't get the team

2165
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 10: ready to play. And I also think now when there's

2166
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 10: a turnover and each team runs all the way down

2167
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 10: to the other goal line. They need to be flagged

2168
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 10: for delay a game.

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01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that one. I'm tired of

2170
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 3: seeing that. It does drive me nuts.

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01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 10: That just drives me crazy that they let him do

2172
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 10: all of that in the middle of the game. I'm like, really,

2173
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 10: you know that's my take, and thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay, thanks for the phone call. I appreciate it.

2175
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 3: Evan McPherson made field goals at the highest rate of

2176
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 3: his career this year. He was twenty five for twenty

2177
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 3: eight total. He was eighty nine point three percent. He

2178
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 3: was perfect from twenty to twenty nine. He was perfect

2179
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 3: from thirty to thirty nine. He was perfect from forty

2180
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 3: to forty nine. It was five for eight from fifty plus.

2181
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 3: He set a Bengals franchise record, broke his own with

2182
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 3: a sixty three yarder. Now he missed three extra points.

2183
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 3: I think two of those were blocked. I understand that

2184
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 3: that had an impact on yesterday's game. Evan McPherson is

2185
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 3: not someone that I am worried about for the Bengals

2186
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,719
Speaker 3: this offseason. I think they've got those two departments, both

2187
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 3: him and Ryan Rico and the long snapper William Wagner.

2188
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 3: I think those guys are all pretty well locked down.

2189
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 3: I think they had pretty good seasons and not something

2190
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 3: that needs to be worried about this off season. To

2191
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 3: be completely honest with you, you know, I do think

2192
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 3: it's interesting. I was thinking about Kevin Stefanski, who was

2193
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 3: fired this morning by the Cleveland Browns, and thinking kind

2194
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 3: of about the similarities between he and Zach Taylor. It's

2195
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 3: a little bit closer than you might think. They're a

2196
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 3: little bit more similar than you may have guessed. How

2197
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 3: about this career record. Zach Taylor is fifty two, sixty

2198
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 3: three and one. That is a four to fifty three

2199
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 3: win percentage. Kevin Stefanski is forty five and fifty six.

2200
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 3: That is a four to forty six win percentage. So

2201
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor with a slight edge there. They both have

2202
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 3: franchise altering players all time great Zach has obviously Joe

2203
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 3: Burrow and Jamar Chase. Kevin Stefanski has Miles Garrett, who

2204
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 3: is maybe the single best defensive player of all time

2205
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 3: and is going to be a first ballot Hall. But

2206
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 3: they have each had their I guess seasons or time

2207
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 3: as head coach kind of torpedoed by decisions made by

2208
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 3: people above them. Number one, the way that the Bengals

2209
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 3: approached the defense and the drafting and development of that

2210
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 3: defense I think has torpedoed the chances over the last

2211
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 3: couple of years. That coupled with serious injury to Joe

2212
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 3: Burrow far too frequently, as I think torpedoed some of

2213
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 3: the chances of Zach Taylor. Whereas with Kevin Stefanski, the

2214
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,839
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson decision made by his owner and his GM

2215
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 3: Andrew Berry really torpedoed any chances they had. I said

2216
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 3: it earlier, there's like two coaches in Brown's history all

2217
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 3: time with multiple eleven plus win seasons. It's Paul Brown

2218
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 3: and him. He provided stability to that franchise. He took

2219
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 3: them to the playoffs, took them to heights they hadn't seen.

2220
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 3: They won a playoff game in Pittsburgh. Right, He's got

2221
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 3: to deal with Andrew Berry and the HASLM. Zach Taylor

2222
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 3: has to deal with Duke Tobin and the Brown family.

2223
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 3: Like there's some more similarities there than you think. And

2224
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 3: by the way, I think the Haslams are as inept

2225
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 3: as it gets when it comes to being able to

2226
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 3: run the football team. And if you watch the press

2227
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 3: conference today you would understand why I feel that way.

2228
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 3: And I think the difference between the Bengals and the

2229
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 3: Browns in terms of the way that the front offices

2230
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 3: work and operate. The Browns are extremely aggressive, and they have,

2231
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 3: to their credit, been very aggressive in their pursuit of

2232
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 3: trying to get better. They have what I label aggressive incompetence.

2233
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 3: The Bengals to frequently have passive incompetence, not gonna go overboard,

2234
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 3: not gonna go over top. We've seen them tow that

2235
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 3: line before or perfectly toe that line of aggression. I

2236
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 3: always talk about the offseason after twenty twenty into twenty one,

2237
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 3: where I think they did it just about perfectly. But

2238
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 3: they've also sat back and sat on their hands a

2239
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 3: little bit too frequently and that has led to not

2240
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 3: getting the same results. I'm not saying these guys are

2241
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 3: the same coach Stefanski has two NFL Coach of the

2242
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 3: Year awards and being able to operate in that dysfunction

2243
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 3: in Cleveland is very impressive. But I do think those

2244
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 3: two guys are kind of similar, maybe more similar than

2245
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 3: people think, and one today is losing his job and

2246
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 3: is going to be highly regarded as another head coach

2247
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 3: and will probably get a job sooner rather than later.

2248
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 3: We always talk about the idea of if Zach Taylor

2249
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 3: was fired today, would other teams go and line up

2250
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 3: to get him? And a lot of Bengals fans want

2251
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 3: to say, no, that wouldn't happen. I don't agree with that.

2252
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 3: I think Zach is a good leader. I think he's

2253
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 3: a good offensive mind. I think he's a guy that

2254
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 3: can be provide stability and all the things you're looking

2255
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 3: for out of a head coach. But I think it's

2256
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 3: fair to say does he elevate? Does he bring you

2257
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 3: to the next level? I think that's the biggest gripe

2258
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 3: against Zach because we've seen when the roster is built

2259
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 3: and there are good players, it works. I mean, hell,

2260
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 3: I always think of that two thousand and seven Cavs

2261
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 3: team that Lebron took to the Finals, and you're thinking,

2262
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 3: dear God, how did this team actually get here?

2263
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 4: Right?

2264
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 3: I think of that Bengals offensive line that played in

2265
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and I know everybody wants to say

2266
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow played hero ball, and he was unbelievable

2267
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, but there were also some games

2268
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 3: where he wasn't great, but they found ways to win.

2269
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 3: They changed their running scheme, they changed their offense. This

2270
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 3: does not sit around and defend Zach Taylor, Dad, it's

2271
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 3: really trying now what I'm trying to do at all.

2272
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 3: But I do think when the roster around him, when

2273
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 3: he has a team of capable players, the results have

2274
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 3: often been good, competitive championship caliber. Injuries have happened that

2275
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 3: have taken them out of that. Now, we didn't see

2276
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 3: them elevate as much as you'd like to with Jake

2277
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 3: Browning this time around, but we did see it the

2278
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 3: first time around. We saw the offense elevate it a

2279
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 3: little bit after Jake Browning was benched this year and

2280
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 3: Flacco got there. But does he elevate the rest of

2281
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 3: the roster with the defensive coaches and the defensive mines.

2282
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 3: Turns out, Louis Narrumo was a pretty good hire Jury

2283
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:41,120
Speaker 3: obviously still out on al Golden But when you have

2284
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 3: the capable pieces, I think Zach Taylor has done a

2285
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 3: good job of meeting the expectations with them. I think

2286
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 3: the difference between him and Kevin Stefanski would be, for

2287
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 3: an example, Stefanski's probably often gotten more juice out of

2288
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 3: the Orange than most other coaches would be in the

2289
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 3: midst of that dysfunction in Cleveland, and that might be

2290
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 3: the difference between the two. But if you have a

2291
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,560
Speaker 3: roster that is built properly, who's to say Zach can't

2292
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 3: be the guy who gets you right back in the

2293
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 3: conversation now, elevating players and coaches and all that, that

2294
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,320
Speaker 3: is a role for a head coach. That needs to

2295
02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 3: happen for sure, and Zach can and should be better

2296
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 3: at that. But I do think what we've seen in

2297
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 3: the past, when it's all you know there in front

2298
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 3: of him, there's something about that that works. We'll take

2299
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 3: a break, we'll come back. This is the Black Monday

2300
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 3: edition of Tony Pike's Monday Midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2301
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Speaker 33: It's more than a home, It's where to counch becomes

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Speaker 33: the fifty yard line.

2303
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Speaker 3: Welcome back Tony Pike's Monday Midday Quarterback here on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore just a few minutes from now.

2305
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Speaker 3: We'll check in with Tony and Mo, the final Tony

2306
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 3: and Mo football show of the season, coming up this

2307
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 3: afternoon from Twin Peaks. Looking ahead at the schedule, and

2308
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 3: by schedule, I mean off season schedule for the NFL,

2309
02:01:10,120 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 3: obviously playoffs happening over the next several weeks. February eighth

2310
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Speaker 3: is Super Bowl sixty at Levi Stadium in Santa Clara, California,

2311
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 3: and then February seventeenth is the next big date. That's

2312
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 3: when teams may designate franchise tag players or transition tag players.

2313
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 3: After that, February twenty third through March second is the

2314
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Speaker 3: NFL Scouting Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, and

2315
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 3: then March ninth is the beginning of legal tampering. This

2316
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 3: is one of the best things the NFL has ever done.

2317
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:52,480
Speaker 3: The legal tampering period begins March ninth and goes through

2318
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 3: March eleventh, and then March eleventh, at four pm is

2319
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Speaker 3: the official start of the new league year and the

2320
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:07,040
Speaker 3: start of free agency, so that is the next big thing.

2321
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,560
Speaker 3: After that, the annual League Meeting is March twenty ninth

2322
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 3: through the April through April first in Phoenix. There'll be

2323
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 3: a lot of information coming out of there, including potential

2324
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 3: rule changes on the upcoming season. And then April twenty

2325
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Speaker 3: third through the twenty fifth is the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Also,

2326
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 3: I should say this April twentieth, so three days before

2327
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 3: the draft is when teams with returning head coaches may

2328
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 3: begin their offseason workout programs. So we'll figure out that

2329
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 3: schedule out a later date. But then April twenty third

2330
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 3: through the twenty fifth is the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh.

2331
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Speaker 3: It'll be the second AFC North city to host the

2332
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Speaker 3: NFL Draft. Cleveland did it a few years ago. Bengals

2333
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Speaker 3: and Browns both picking in the top ten in the

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Speaker 3: NFL Draft. As in currently stands, this is the top

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Speaker 3: ten in the draft if I can find it. I

2336
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,200
Speaker 3: don't know what I ever did with it, but it

2337
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 3: is Las Vegas number one, and the Giants screwed their

2338
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:12,320
Speaker 3: thing up yesterday. They were supposed to lose, but they didn't.

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02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:15,920
Speaker 3: Here's the top ten. It's Lost Vegas number one, the

2340
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 3: Jets number two, Arizona number three, Tennessee four, the Giants five,

2341
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 3: Cleveland six, Washington seven, New Orleans eight, Kansas City nine,

2342
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Speaker 3: and Cincinnati ten. If you're wondering about the teams right

2343
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:36,480
Speaker 3: behind the Bengals, number eleven would be the Miami Dolphins.

2344
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 3: Number twelve would be the Dallas Cowboys. So the thing

2345
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 3: that's difficult about this is the draft. I'm not getting

2346
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 3: too much into it right away, but there's one, maybe

2347
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks that would go in the top ten, basically one.

2348
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Speaker 3: So if there's ever been a terrible year to have

2349
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Speaker 3: a top ten pick for a team that doesn't need

2350
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 3: a quarterback like the Bengals, it would be this year.

2351
02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 3: Because all the teams ahead of you are not going

2352
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 3: to be willing to draft a quarterback that high, and

2353
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:05,720
Speaker 3: we'll be drafting other players more than likely. So Vegas

2354
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 3: is going to take a quarterback. So the nine picks

2355
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 3: ahead of you, Kansas City's not taking a quarterback. I

2356
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 3: don't think the Giants would take a quarterback, Washington's not

2357
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Speaker 3: taking a quarterback. New Orleans probably won't take a quarterback.

2358
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Speaker 3: So four of the nine teams ahead of you at

2359
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 3: least not going to be taking a quarterback. So we'll

2360
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 3: see how it goes. But those are the important dates

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Speaker 3: to know upcoming in the NFL offseason. All Right, we'll

2362
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Speaker 3: take a break. We'll come back. When we do, it'll

2363
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Speaker 3: be time for quick hits with Tony Pike and Moegger

2364
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 3: ahead of the final Tony and Mo Football show of

2365
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Speaker 3: the season that's next right here on the home of

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: Now, it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes.

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Speaker 3: Since three six it's the Tony Pikes Monday Midday Quarterback Show,

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Speaker 3: and we are looking for We found Tony, we found Mo.

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Speaker 3: They're at the Tony and Mow Football Show coming up

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. The very last one fellas not forever, well forever,

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Speaker 3: so we never know for the season, next several months,

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Speaker 3: just for the year at least. I think maybe you

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Speaker 3: guys should do one in July, just to kind of

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Speaker 3: wet the whistle. What's up, boys, how are we feeling

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Speaker 3: where we at mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, there's a lot there. I think I'm in

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Speaker 4: a good place, but a good place as it relates

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Speaker 4: to all those things. Yes, even though even though I

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Speaker 4: got halfway to Twin Peaks in Westchester forwards realized that's

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Speaker 4: not where we are today.

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Speaker 2: Listen, the start to twenty twenty six could have been better.

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Speaker 2: We watched a loss in Memphis, watched a loss in

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati against the Houston Cougar's, watched a loss for the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. But you know, there's only one way to

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Speaker 2: go now, and that's up.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the loss the Bengals suffered. Can I ask

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Speaker 4: you guys a question please. I'm watching local news last night,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not going to say who it was because

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Speaker 4: I got enough mad at me right now. But I

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Speaker 4: heard somebody on local television last night refer to the

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Speaker 4: Bengals loss as quote heartbreaking. Oh it is now. You

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Speaker 4: may have wanted him to win, that's fine, I did.

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Speaker 4: But what would you describe yesterday's loss, which sent their

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Speaker 4: season record to six and eleven as heartbreaking?

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Speaker 2: I could see some of the people that maybe took

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Speaker 2: the letter from Mike Brown today as heartbreaking.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here's my other question. We're gonna talk about this

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Speaker 4: that I did anybody put their head on the pillow

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Speaker 4: last night thinking, you know what, tomorrow we're gonna find

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Speaker 4: out that they're moving on from Duke and or Zach.

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Speaker 3: No, No, okay, I would say yesterday's lost more of

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Speaker 3: a gut punch than a heartbreak gut punch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The only thing that would have been more of

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Speaker 4: a gut punch would be if the game went to overtime.

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Speaker 3: I just feels like I think I think the gut

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Speaker 3: punch part was, oh shoor, Sanders just did that to

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Speaker 3: this defense.

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Speaker 4: The most on brand thing ever. The Beans can't get

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Speaker 4: us stop at the end of the game, like okay.

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Speaker 3: They can't even stop him.

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Speaker 4: Confirmation of what we already knew, right, this is a

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Speaker 4: bad defense. This is why they I guess, if anything,

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Speaker 4: if you were worried, you know what at the end

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Speaker 4: of the year they're going to do things that impairs

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Speaker 4: their decision making, Well, there was one more reminder that

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Speaker 4: you have to fix this defense.

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing for me that that goes

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Speaker 2: and kind of carries over from yesterday into today and

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Speaker 2: now into this offseason. Austin would be I guess for me,

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Speaker 2: the word chemistry and the chemistry that you can clearly

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02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 2: see between Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin and really without

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Speaker 2: chemistry at any level in any sport, where are you at?

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Speaker 3: And I think it's important to note. I think it

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Speaker 3: really came through in the statement that Mike Brown put

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Speaker 3: out as well, that there has to be chemistry between

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Speaker 3: the front office, between the head coach, between the director

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Speaker 3: and player personnel, obviously the players as well. I think

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Speaker 3: the importance of chemistry can't be understated. I'll ask multiple

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Speaker 3: times today, without chemistry, what do we have?

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Speaker 4: It's a good point I would I would use the

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Speaker 4: word alignment. Frankly, I think there has to alignment between

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin. I think that's the word.

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Speaker 4: They have to be on the same page. One might

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Speaker 4: say they have to have a good working relationship. I

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Speaker 4: would argue, I think somanically. That's how I would put it,

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Speaker 4: more than anything else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, that certainly does make a lot of

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Speaker 3: sense as far as the NFL playoffs are concerned. If

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Speaker 3: I had to ask either of you right now to

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Speaker 3: pick who's going to win the Super Bowl, who would

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Speaker 3: you pick? Well?

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Speaker 4: I love this weekend because we have four road favorites,

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Speaker 4: which I think illustrates how wide open this is. I'll

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Speaker 4: lean on Denver, I guess, because I think they have

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Speaker 4: a legitimate championship level defense. Okay, but you know the

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02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:48,680
Speaker 4: Rams are intriguing to me. Second shortest odds to win

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02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl despite being a five seed, better odds

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Speaker 4: than Denver, better odds than anybody who's not Seattle, and

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Speaker 4: the odds are pretty close. You could tell me the

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02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 4: Rams roll through the NFL. You could also tell me

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Speaker 4: they go to Carolina and get beaten because their special

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02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:08,600
Speaker 4: teams things. Yeah, yeah, I guess Denver, but I don't

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Speaker 4: feel great about it.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy because there was a point in the fourth

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02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 2: quarter last night where I was talking myself into the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: They were gonna host Houston and then they're gonna go to

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Speaker 2: Denver and they were gonna win both of those yea

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Speaker 2: and be in the AFC title. It's unique because I

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Speaker 2: love Jacksonville and then they draw Buffalo in the AFC,

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Speaker 2: and I think that game is fascinating on all accounts.

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Speaker 2: I love the Texans defense. How can you not like

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Speaker 2: the way the Patriots are playing down the stretch. AFC

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Speaker 2: to me, is completely up for grabs. I still lean

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Speaker 2: in the NFC. I look at what the Rams got

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Speaker 2: almost like I looked at Oregon seating in the College

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Speaker 2: Football Playoff. You're a ten and a half point favorite

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Speaker 2: against the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 4: That bodes well for you.

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Speaker 2: I think the Rams have the most consistent team on

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Speaker 2: offense and defense, but it is it feels like it's

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Speaker 2: so up for grabs, and I think that's what makes

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Speaker 2: it so awesome look forward to. I just think it

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Speaker 2: comes down to which team has the most chemistry.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Broncos. What do you think the difference

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Speaker 3: is between the Broncos and the Texans.

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Speaker 4: The Texans defense, while very very good, and while they've

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Speaker 4: been great on the road this year, hasn't been as

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Speaker 4: awesome as it's perceived down the stretch, and they're very

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Speaker 4: inconsistent offensively, and they have a bad offensive line. The

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Speaker 4: Broncos have a Hall of Fame coach, capable quarterback play,

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Speaker 4: though inconsistent offense, I think their defense is at a

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Speaker 4: championship level. I do. I wonder why Buffalo's favorite at Jacksonville. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: explain that to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an imense amount of pressure on Josh Allen,

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02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 2: no Lamar, no Roams, no Morrow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, better do it now? Yeah, better do it now.

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Speaker 4: And I think with New England, you go, okay, how

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Speaker 4: much were they really challenged? With the Chargers? You wonder

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02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 4: about their offensive field. There's so many fatal flaws I think.

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Speaker 2: I think Philly and San Francisco is fascinating because Philly

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02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:53,760
Speaker 2: essentially punted yesterday's game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Not even more about seeding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are I look at Denver and I see

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Speaker 4: the fewest fatal flaws and they have to play one

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Speaker 4: less game and they get home field advantage.

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Speaker 3: I see the Seahawks as having one fatal flaw, but

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Speaker 3: it's the biggest one, and it's if Sam Darnold can

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Speaker 3: actually play at that at the level he's played at

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Speaker 3: the last two regular seasons in the postseason, but if

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Speaker 3: he plays anything like that, I don't see them getting beat.

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Speaker 4: I still have in my mind the four picks he

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Speaker 4: threw against the Rams, and that is maybe not fair.

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Speaker 4: Their defense on Saturday night was at a different level.

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Speaker 4: The playoffs, I think are fascinating. Again, look no further

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Speaker 4: than this weekend for the six road teams are favored.

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Speaker 3: How much fun did you have in Memphis?

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Speaker 4: Mom?

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Speaker 3: Not as much fun as Tony almost had, But yeah.

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Speaker 4: I had some good meals, a couple of good meals.

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Speaker 2: Once I got into a room that was my own,

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Speaker 2: I was good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't have that issue.

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Speaker 3: We really didn't utilize downtown Memphis. There was a great

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Speaker 3: the whole time.

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Speaker 4: I don't love the city of Memphis. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't blame There was a hospital room. I don't

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Speaker 4: love the city of Memphis.

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Speaker 2: That was a hospitality room at our hotel for the

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Speaker 2: bowl game, and that was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: I've probably been to Memphis, Memphis fifteen times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love a good barbecue as much as anybody.

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Speaker 3: I love a You got to pull over, didn't you?

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Speaker 4: I got it? I did. I love a good place

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Speaker 4: to hang out and have a couple of cold ones

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Speaker 4: more than anybody. I like live music as much as anybody.

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Speaker 4: Memphis just has never done it for me, So I

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Speaker 4: really didn't venture out. I had a meal because I

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Speaker 4: got there after Tony and Dan. I had a meal

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Speaker 4: on my own and then a couple of cold ones

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Speaker 4: at the hotel.

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Speaker 3: And said, like Joe flat settled in.

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Speaker 4: For a great football game on on Friday.

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Speaker 3: All right, boys, well we'll be listening for the final

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Speaker 3: of the season.

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Speaker 4: How much time, Tony, I'm like, how much against it?

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Speaker 16: Are we?

2540
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Speaker 4: A minute?

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Speaker 3: In thirty seconds?

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Speaker 4: Well, here's can I ask my Ohio State question? Yeah? Please?

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Speaker 3: I guess we haven't been able to speak since then. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Last year, Ohio State they lose to Michigan and they're

2546
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 4: gearing up for the college football playoff, and I wanted

2547
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Speaker 4: Ohio State to win because I wanted Ryan Day to

2548
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:06,800
Speaker 4: kind of go double bird to all these fans who

2549
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 4: are like, well, it didn't matter, it didn't matter, doesn't

2550
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:11,080
Speaker 4: matter what you do in the playoff if you don't

2551
02:13:11,080 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 4: beat Michigan. This year he beats Michigan, So is it

2552
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:15,000
Speaker 4: cool that they lost in the playoffs?

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02:13:15,640 --> 02:13:20,840
Speaker 3: It doesn't sting as much. But no, it's not cool,

2554
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 3: like pick.

2555
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Speaker 4: One of the other man. Like legitimately, all these people,

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02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 4: all these folks here he wins the thing. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying to you, Austin, because I think you're a

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Speaker 4: pretty measured, common sense person, but I got buck Guy

2559
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 4: fans in my life where like, yeah, it's nice, but

2560
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 4: beat Michigan. This year, the guy beats Michigan, falls short

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Speaker 4: in the postseason. His coaching, I think had a lot

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Speaker 4: to do with that. Well he's got to go, well,

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02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 4: wait a minute, he beat Michigan, Like what is it?

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Speaker 3: Pick one? Pick one? I'm with you to coming up next. Effort,

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02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:58,560
Speaker 3: chemistry between play callers is important. Huge between all people

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Speaker 3: is important. Chemistry sac Thanks Mo, Thanks Tony.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling chemistry is gonna get brought up

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Speaker 3: a lot this afternoon. The Tony and Mo Football Show

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Speaker 3: is next. You've been listening to Tony Pike's Monday midday Quarterback,

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Speaker 3: the Black Monday Edition on the home of the Bengals,

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