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Speaker 1: By three oh five in the Queen City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty an honor, pleasure and

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Speaker 1: privilege to be filling in for Moger today on The

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Speaker 1: mo Ager Show. Tarren Bland is today's producer, And like

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Speaker 1: Eric Carmon and the Raspberries, going all the way to

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Speaker 1: six o'clock tonight, and we're coming out of the gate

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Speaker 1: strong with a super guest of this show. He's not

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Speaker 1: only a Bengals insider, he's a Cincinnati sports insider, host

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Speaker 1: of the Jungle Roar podcast. He writes for clnssincy dot com.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in, Trags, Mike Petralia, how are you, Trags?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Bought on this incredibly beautiful last day of March.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic and I'm asking all my guests this question right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate. There's a little bit of Braylen

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Speaker 1: Mullins in all of us. Who were you in the

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Speaker 1: backyard on the black top in the driveway counting down

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Speaker 1: three two one in shooting a buzzer beater?

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Speaker 2: I who was I? Andrew Tony?

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Speaker 3: That was my player growing up, seventy six ers point

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Speaker 3: shooting guard from the nineteen eighties, the Boston Strangler. That's

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Speaker 3: exactly who I was. I actually wore twenty two in

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Speaker 2: Because of it all. No, i'd have to say, I'd

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Speaker 2: have to say Andrew Tony.

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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, Mike Petrellium and what a historic night at

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Speaker 1: the Ballyard last night, Great American Ballpark. Chase Burns finally

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Speaker 1: gets his first win, and I think those are important

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Speaker 1: to pitchers, believe me. And Jose Franco, how often aren't

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Speaker 1: we going to say Julio from days gone by? But

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Speaker 1: first save, and then just the awesomeness that continues in

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Speaker 3: Well, you may say Julio, I'm going to say, and

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Speaker 3: I know I'm going to write this a thousand times

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Speaker 3: John and then hit the backspace like twice and then

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Speaker 3: correct it to Jose. But first of all, with Jose Franco,

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Speaker 3: what he did, what he gave the Reds last.

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Speaker 3: And he gave up leadoff singles in the sixth and

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Speaker 3: he absolutely did not want to do with Pierce Johnson,

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Speaker 3: Yes, for him to come up big and go an

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Speaker 3: see Jose Franco. It's somebody else in that position. But

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Speaker 3: And injuries, of course happened, but the Reds are in

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Speaker 3: That chick is the sign of a team that could

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Speaker 1: Awesome to have Mike Petralia with us today and kick

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Speaker 1: him out on Twitter x at Trags and Drags. How

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Speaker 3: Terry Francona joked after the game. I told him after

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Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, chick Phillips has filthy stuff. He

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Speaker 1: Fantastic stuff your trags and I'm reading some of your tweets,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, the Final Four has transformed over the years.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a I think the Friday afternoon NABC

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Speaker 1: NFL meetings are going on in Phoenix, Trags. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Katie Blackburn talking. Man, do the

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Speaker 3: This fall yes to no check And I see your point.

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Speaker 3: one voice. Very very similar, but with Marvin and Bill

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Speaker 3: because you're talking about contracts and the Joe Burrows situation,

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Speaker 2: Those are the people.

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Speaker 3: You're paying, again fifty five million dollars a year, two

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Speaker 1: That will be something I'm going to be watching.

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Speaker 3: Well it's going to be an aspect in an angle

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Speaker 1: Drags I got a run man, Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: You got it, Take care of check.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's Mike Petralia. Follow him on Twitter at trags.

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Speaker 9: Thank you Chick for having me. I wish I was

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Speaker 9: he's in the major leagues moving to first, Base i'm

438
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 9: sure he's totally fine with, that, chick because being a

439
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 9: major leaguer and contributing to a team that's gotten off

440
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 9: to a good, start.

441
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: He's going to be fine with. That but that was

442
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: never his.

443
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 9: Intention he felt like he could play third base at

444
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 9: a big league, level and now that he's there and

445
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 9: he's there's an opening at first, base so he's able

446
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 9: to do. That i'm sure he's one hundred percent fine with.

447
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 9: That but, boy he's going to be a fan favorite

448
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 9: as time goes, by and you, know he reminds me

449
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 9: he's not truly a carbon copy Of Pete, rose but

450
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 9: there are some there are some. Similarities he doesn't have

451
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 9: the all out hustling style of game That Pete rose,

452
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 9: had but in terms of baseball intelligence and just playing

453
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 9: as a, WINNER i see some of the same. Things

454
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 9: AND i grew up Watching Pete, rose SO i see

455
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 9: some of those same things at his intensity level just

456
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 9: off the, charts AND i think as time goes, by

457
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 9: he's not going to keep hitting seven, hundred but he'll

458
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 9: cool down at some. Point but, boy he's just going

459
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 9: to be a fan favorite on This reds ball club

460
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 9: because of the way he plays the.

461
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Game his hands are so, quick and even a ball

462
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: that's up like near his, eyes he's able to get

463
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: the bat on it and he's driving it out of the.

464
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: Ballpark it's if you, Yeah i'm, sorry go.

465
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: Ahead.

466
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah it's just fun to watch, him it really.

467
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 10: Is.

468
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 9: Yeah if one thing you'll notice With, sally and we

469
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 9: noticed this right away when he got the, date and

470
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 9: it's hard to find players with, this with this willingness

471
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 9: to understand the game situation is when he comes up

472
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 9: in a situation where contact is really. Needed notice he'll

473
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 9: change his approach with two, strikes which a fan would, say, well.

474
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 4: Every hitter should do. THAT a lot of them.

475
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 9: Won't that's that's the reason we have so many strikeouts

476
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 9: in the game.

477
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: Today but, he'll, he'll he'll go up.

478
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 9: There our manager when we Had sal in twenty twenty

479
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 9: four Was Brian lahair and he made the comment to

480
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 9: me after about a week of Watching. Sal he said to,

481
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 9: me his first two strikes and is it batt were

482
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 9: For Sal, stewart and the third strike is for the.

483
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 9: Team and basically what he was saying, was he's going

484
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 9: to go up there and take an aggressive swing and

485
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 9: try to hit the ball in the gap hard on strike,

486
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 9: one strike. Two but if he gets to a two strike,

487
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 9: situation he's going to shorten his, swing make contact and

488
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 9: protect the plate and avoid the strikeout for the.

489
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: Team and that's you, know it sounds.

490
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 9: Simple it's hard to get guys to do, that especially

491
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 9: guys that are his as young as he, is to

492
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 9: understand the game situation like he. Does but he in my,

493
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 9: Mind i've always said this is going to be a

494
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 9: special player.

495
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: And the ability yet to drive the ball the other

496
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: way and lay and spray it really to all, fields

497
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: and that comes with just like you, mentioned the first

498
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: two strikes for, him the third strike for the. Team

499
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: it seems like he will do anything to win a

500
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: baseball game and to help The Cincinnati. Reds.

501
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 9: Well you, know one of the REASONS i think the

502
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 9: fans are going to really appreciate him is he is a,

503
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 9: ballplayer and he. Doesn't in this day and, age there's

504
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 9: so much focus on, tools, athleticism, speed and that's Not

505
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 9: those things aren't his. Strengths he is not going to

506
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 9: wow you with. Athletics. Athleticism he's more athletic than he's

507
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 9: giving credit. For but those aren't things that he's top

508
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 9: of the charts. On what he's top of the charts

509
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 9: on is getting the most out of his ability and

510
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 9: being more of a what you might say a common

511
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 9: guys as an. Athlete but yet his baseball skills are

512
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 9: really his. Strengths the back to the ball, again understanding

513
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 9: the game, situation just just quality baseball skills versus raw.

514
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 9: Tools those are the things that are that are strengths

515
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 9: for South.

516
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: Stewart The Red sox have seen, him The pirates have seen.

517
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: HIM i wonder when they're going to start hating.

518
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 9: Him you, KNOW i can remember in our, league quite,

519
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 9: honestly we had a tremendous rivalry with The dodgers, affiliate

520
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 9: The Great Lakes.

521
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: Loons both teams didn't like the.

522
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: Other.

523
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 9: Uh they The dodgers affiliate in our league had a

524
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 9: little bit of a sense of entitlement with some of

525
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 9: the things they do that would drive me. Crazy their

526
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 9: player would hit a home run and he would watch

527
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 9: it and and and, uh opposing pitchers and opposing players

528
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 9: don't like. That and then our guy would would do.

529
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 9: THIS i Remember Jay allen hitting the home. Run he

530
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 9: washed it a little, bit and immediately their whole infield

531
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 9: screaming at. Him And i'm, thinking you guys just did

532
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 9: the same. Thing why what's the double standard? Here but,

533
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 9: anyway neither team liked the, Opponent dodgers And, reds and

534
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 9: that's the way it, was of course when we were

535
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 9: growing up in the. Seventies but in our league it

536
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 9: Was Great lakes and The Dayton. Dragons and The dayton

537
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 9: player That Great lakes absolutely hated Was South, stewart just

538
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 9: because of the way he went about his business on the.

539
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: Field he's so intense and they didn't like.

540
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 9: That and he's never going to be a guy that's

541
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 9: liked by the, Opponent and, AGAIN i Mentioned Pete rose,

542
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 9: earlier the same kind of, thing and that was The

543
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 9: South stewart we saw In, dayton AND i think you're

544
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 9: seeing the same. Player he is, very very, confident and

545
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 9: it's not a fake. Confidence it's a true belief that

546
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 9: he's going to go out there and get the job.

547
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 9: Done and you'll you'll see that as time goes by

548
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 9: and you get to know his personality better and. BETTER

549
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 9: i think he's played enough now that most fans have

550
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 9: started to catch on to.

551
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: That in the off, Season it's not like The reds

552
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: were really trumpeting him really at. All it was a

553
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: question will he make The will he make the opening day?

554
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: Roster And i'm their right, man you, Know, uh let's just.

555
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: See BUT i was certainly hoping he would and and he,

556
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: has and he's inserted in as the cleanup. Hitter it's just. Incredible.

557
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 9: YEAH i think that maybe they were a little quiet

558
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 9: just to avoid putting any pressure on.

559
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: Him and.

560
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 9: Although he's not the type of guy that's gonna feel

561
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 9: pressure because he believes that he can do anything out.

562
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 9: There and, uh but you're. RIGHT i was a little

563
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 9: concerned too WHEN i started hearing some of that And i'm, thinking,

564
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 9: no he needs to have an everyday job somewhere where

565
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 9: he can he can know he's in the lineup each.

566
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: Day. Uh and and that's in the in the, end

567
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: that's what they.

568
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 9: Did and he's not only in the lineup every, day

569
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 9: he's hitting clean up in the lineup every. Day and

570
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 9: where you put your best hitter or second best. Hitter

571
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 9: ellie's hitting, third where oftentimes you'll put your best. Hitter

572
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 9: AND i don't think anyone would have predicted. That, PROBABLY

573
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 9: i think most people would have Expected suarez to be

574
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 9: in the fourth. Spot but he's in the five spot

575
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 9: and South stewart's in the fourth.

576
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: Spot so, again pleasure to watch.

577
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 9: Him and we saw this In dayton with Sal and

578
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 9: and now The reds fans are seeing it.

579
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: Too we talked a little bit off the air a

580
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: couple of your concerns pitching. Wise but, wow Was Chase

581
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: burn's incredible last. Night we're gonna See Brandon williamson uh here.

582
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: Tonight but Jose franco came on strong last night In

583
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: Connor phillips and had his really. Helped now it appears

584
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: That tony Santion, man who was an absolute war last

585
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: year AND i love the, guy but a couple of

586
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: miles an hour off his, Fastball.

587
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 9: Yeah that's concerning right now to. Me And i'm a

588
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 9: Huge tony. Fan tony's one of my all Time dragon's.

589
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 9: FAVORITES i thought last year he had an all star quality,

590
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 9: season And i've got confidence he'll he'll get that. Back

591
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 9: as you, mentioned two miles an hour down on both

592
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 9: his fastball and his, slider and you wonder, Why and you,

593
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 9: know he's had a couple of games where his command

594
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 9: wasn't as good as he would have.

595
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 4: Liked AND i would have, said, yeah, well who'll get.

596
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 9: THAT i don't know why his velocity would be down

597
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 9: two miles an hour right, Now but hopefully it's a

598
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 9: little dead arm stage he's going through and he can

599
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 9: be back because he's such a valuable and he was

600
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 9: an eighth inning lockdown guy last.

601
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: Year just.

602
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 9: Automatic if you've got a one run lead at the

603
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 9: end of, seven the game was usually just about over

604
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 9: Because tony was going to pitch the eighth And Emilios

605
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 9: pegan was going to pitch the. Ninth AND i hope

606
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 9: he gets back and check on that on that to

607
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 9: your point, there you know one of the things THAT

608
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 9: i think has been interesting about these last Three reds

609
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 9: victories is and this has been STATED i think By

610
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 9: Terry francona to some, degree they were three games that

611
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 9: were the types of games they really had a tough

612
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 9: time winning last year for three different. Reasons the first

613
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 9: One saturday extra ending. Game they were horrendous and extra

614
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 9: ending games last. Year they won an extra ending game

615
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 9: on on On saturday against The Red sox. Uh and

616
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 9: Then sunday they're they're just kind of not showing much

617
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 9: of anything at all offensively and they're down to nothing

618
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 9: and they get a three run home up to get the.

619
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: Lead and then win the. Games, yes and.

620
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 9: They didn't have too many of those like that last.

621
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 9: Year and it Was, suarez a guy they added exactly

622
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 9: for that. Reason and then and then here was another

623
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 9: one last night THAT i don't know how many people

624
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 9: have noticed, this but to me it was. Interesting was last.

625
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 9: Season you'll, remember it was really tempting when you got

626
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 9: the lead to Use santian And pegan day after day

627
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 9: oftentimes you, know more than you might want, to, yeah

628
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 9: because they were so good and you just didn't maybe

629
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 9: quite have the confidence to use anyone else in the

630
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 9: eighth and ninth. Innings and last night was a night

631
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 9: they didn't want to Use santion And pegan and they

632
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 9: still won the game and shut out. Variety they Had

633
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 9: ashcraft And phillips get them to get them through the

634
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 9: final two. Innings and you know last night it Was, Burns, Franco, Ashcraft,

635
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 9: phillips all four Former Dayton dragons guys we saw here In.

636
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: Dayton and you, KNOW i Love. Phillips he has elite. Stuff,

637
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: YES i mean.

638
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 9: Ninety nine mile an hour fastball with a sweeper that

639
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 9: gets swing and miss after swing and, miss and so

640
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 9: his control HE i think just a matter of gaining.

641
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 9: CONFIDENCE i know the young man very. WELL i know

642
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 9: that he maybe can have some, doubts but as he

643
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 9: gets confidence after games like last night where he walked

644
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 9: the first two batters in the ninth inning and then

645
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 9: got out of it and you know in the game

646
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 9: the next the Game, sunday, no it is the extra ending.

647
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: GAME i guess he had two.

648
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 9: Straight sportless innings where there's a free runner at second

649
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 9: base and he'll put up a zero.

650
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: And, yeah three strikeouts in Tom we've got to. Run,

651
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: wow this was great. Stuff really appreciated as, Always thank

652
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: You chick for having. Me thank you and. Man check

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Speaker 1: Guest he is doing a whale of a. Job is

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Speaker 1: the host of the morning show on seven HUNDRED, wlw

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Speaker 1: and it's awesome to see and hear him calling games

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Speaker 1: college football and basketball on THE. Cw he Is Tom. Brennaman,

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Speaker 1: Tom welcome to seven fifteen. Thirty, brother how are? YOU

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Speaker 1: i believe, ME i know the Feeling i'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: MAN i love that.

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Speaker 11: Too and every time you play that tune when you're

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Speaker 11: on on the weekends or on. Today AND i heard

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Speaker 11: you when you first started the show at, three that

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Speaker 11: was such a Great it is a great.

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Speaker 1: Tune, yes Love Eric carmon and The raspberries And. Tom

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Speaker 1: i'm asking all my guests. This we all have a

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Speaker 1: little bit Of Brailn mullins in us From. Yukon who

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Speaker 1: were you in the driveway counting down three two one

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Speaker 1: with a basketball and a buzzer? Beater, Well i'm showing my.

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Speaker 11: Age by, this and most people will never even remember

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Speaker 11: him as a. Player they remember him as a. Coach

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00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 11: hall Of fame Coach george Carl he was a player

693
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 11: At North, carolina was just an unbelievable balls to the,

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00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 11: wall had hair down to his. Shoulders he was just the,

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00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 11: scrappiest toughest. Dude Led carolina to The final. Four AND

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00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 11: i can't remember the, year but we were still living

697
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 11: In Virginia beach at the, time before my dad had

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 11: gotten The reds, job and we'd go down to A

699
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 11: carolina game or two every, year and he was always

700
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 11: my favorite. Player in, FACT i think it's one of

701
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 11: only two autographs That i've ever kept in my. LIFE

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00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 11: i got his autograph in the student bookstore when he

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00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 11: was a senior At North carolina and years later would,

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Speaker 11: be you, know coach of The cavaliers for a. While

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00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 11: and a buddy of mine of college was his next door,

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00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 11: neighbor SO i had a chance to say a low

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00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 11: to him years, later and what a great, coach and,

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00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 11: boy he was just a great, player not AN nba,

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Speaker 11: player but a great college.

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00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Player fantastic, Stuff, Tom and what would it mean to

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00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: The Queen city Of cincinnati to really have a sports

712
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: renaissance with The reds here playing well right, now and

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00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: The bengals and even you see basketball getting things turned.

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00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Around what would it mean to the. City, no it

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00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: means so.

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Speaker 11: MUCH i, mean when your team is, winning, man everybody's

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00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 11: in an upbeat mood when they come to, work whether

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Speaker 11: it's you, know during baseball on a daily basis or

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Speaker 11: weekly during.

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Speaker 1: Football and.

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00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 11: You, KNOW i was around and lucky enough to be

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00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 11: broadcast in THE uc basketball games When huggs was there

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Speaker 11: for about ten, years and there was nothing like. IT i,

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00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 11: MEAN i think an entire generation has gone by now

725
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Speaker 11: of not knowing what it was. Like one year after

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Speaker 11: year after year after year they were ranked in the

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Speaker 11: preseason top, ten top, five even ranked number one in some.

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Speaker 1: Weeks it.

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Speaker 11: Was it was just incredible the environment. There and so you,

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Speaker 11: know look hoping that here in twenty twenty six, baseball

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Speaker 11: football and then rolling into basketball in the, fall that

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Speaker 11: the same thing in.

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Speaker 1: The, winter that it will everything can get going in

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Speaker 1: the right.

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Speaker 11: DIRECTION i certainly think THAT uc has hired the right,

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Speaker 11: Coach there's no doubt about.

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Speaker 1: That, well after The Yukon douke game On, Sunday Rick

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Speaker 1: batino tweeted it out that second half of that game

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00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: Makes college Of. Basketball he called it the best and

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Speaker 1: just a phenomenal time of, year no, doubt with to

741
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Speaker 1: start a baseball, season THE Ncaa, tournament all the rights

742
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: of spring coming with The, masters The Kentucky, derby The

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Speaker 1: indianapolis five. Hundred absolutely love this time of.

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Speaker 11: YEAR i was a dope who and, admittedly AND i

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Speaker 11: THINK i shared with you yesterday when we were texting

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Speaker 11: back and. Forth you, KNOW i was sitting. Here i'm

747
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Speaker 11: at home by. Myself my wife's out of town taking

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Speaker 11: care of her. Dad kids are off the schooler in

749
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Speaker 11: the working, world and So i'm here by. MYSELF i settle,

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Speaker 11: in make a little, dinner ready to watch a duke.

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Speaker 11: GAME i watched the first half AND i turned it,

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Speaker 11: off and then right BEFORE i went to, bed maybe

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00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 11: two hours, LATER i just checked the score to see

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Speaker 11: what the final was on my phone AND i thought

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00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 11: that something was wrong with my phone WHEN i saw

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00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 11: That yukon won that. GAME i still can't AND i

757
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 11: didn't see a second of the second, half AND i

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00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 11: can't believe THAT i turned.

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Speaker 1: It, off BUT i. Did HE i think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people did and WHAT i did WAS i kept

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Speaker 1: it on Because i'm listening TO wlw at the same

762
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: time watching the. Game and it got to nineteen, POINTS

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Speaker 1: i kept it. ON i was doing. STUFF i did

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Speaker 1: some laundry and everything around the, apartments BUT i kept

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Speaker 1: kept an eye on the. Score and when it got

766
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Speaker 1: down to nine, points was seven minutes to. Go, man

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Speaker 1: have watched watch the end and what was crazy is

768
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Speaker 1: too had the lead and the ball and, yeah just a,

769
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Speaker 1: stunning stunning turnaround.

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Speaker 11: There and, MAN i just can't say enough good things

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00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 11: about The Caden boozer. Kid the way he stood up

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00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 11: and answered all the questions and tears after the.

773
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: GAME i can't, imagine you.

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00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 11: Know for those of us that are blessed enough to have,

775
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 11: kids AND i have a son not much older than,

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Speaker 11: him and to think that that young man at his

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00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 11: age had the wherewithal to be able to answer those,

778
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 11: questions your heart had to bleed for. Him and it

779
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 11: always reminds me, chick because you, know you, know, look you,

780
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 11: know when you broadcast games or, whatever you can get,

781
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 11: critical and CERTAINLY i would do that from time to

782
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 11: time announcing. Games but nothing AM i more critical of

783
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 11: than a player at the professional level who ducks the.

784
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: Media.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 11: KNOW i mean when a guy has a bad game

787
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 11: and he's hir hiding back in the training. Room it

788
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 11: happens in baseball all the time from time to, time

789
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Speaker 11: not as often as. Football and, LOOK i can't remember

790
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 11: what the great tight end for The ravens last Year

791
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 11: edwards when he dropped the ball in the end zone

792
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 11: would have been a touchdown they would have won the,

793
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 11: game or the two point. CONVERSION i can't remember what it.

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00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 11: Was and he seems like he's a great. Guy AND

795
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Speaker 11: i understand that he was really really upset so much

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00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 11: so last year he couldn't answer the. Questions but, man

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00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 11: that's part of your job and it's not the part

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00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 11: of an eighteen year old's. Job AND i was just

799
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 11: amazed at that young, man the way he conducted and handled.

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00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 11: Himself it was something for every kid and every parent

801
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 11: to show their kid about.

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00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: Accountability and he had a great. Game fifteen, points, what six,

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00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: assists five, rebounds a couple of. Steals he just had

804
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: a phenomenal. Game just one mistake at the end was very.

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00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: Critical but you're exactly, right what a stand up. Guy and,

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00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: yeah it's a lesson for all of us really no

807
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: doubt about. It and, LOOK i know all about.

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Speaker 11: It how you know one moment in time can change your.

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00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 11: World and you, know for him it was a mistake

810
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 11: on a basketball, court and he's got a lot of

811
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 11: great days ahead, him and So god bless. Him he'll

812
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 11: he'll come back stronger than ever and learn from. It

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00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 11: and you're root for that kid moving forward for.

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00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Sure and you mentioned, kids and your, Kid Luke Brenneman

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Speaker 1: man is on his. Way are you guys still doing

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00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: a podcast? Together, no we're.

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00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 11: NOT i think we're going to get back around to

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Speaker 11: it once he gets back in the.

819
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: Fall he wrapped.

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00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 11: Up he's Doing indiana baseball right, now and he'll go

821
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 11: to The Cape Cod league for the second year in

822
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 11: a row and broadcasts there this. Summer still got one

823
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 11: year left of. College but, man what a run he.

824
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Speaker 11: Had you talk about a fortunate young. MAN i, mean

825
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 11: he got to broadcast The indiana football games last, year

826
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 11: went to all the bowl games and the run through

827
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 11: the college football. Playoffs so he got to go to

828
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 11: The Rose bowl he had never been there, before got

829
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 11: to go to The Peach bowl and then the championship

830
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 11: game In, miami and he had the time of his.

831
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 11: Life it was just. Incredible that is.

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00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: Phenomenal And i'm Reading Bill brown's takes On facebook all

833
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: about the Big Red, machine like one person after, another

834
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: just phenomenal. Stuff and he talked About Marty brenneman and

835
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: really how this one belongs to The, reds how that

836
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: all started and it really just came out one day

837
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: and he liked. It everybody liked, it and he stuck with,

838
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: it and he did all right with. THAT i, Think,

839
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: chick he did okay with. It fantay six years, later

840
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: he done. Good as my grandfather used to, say no

841
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: doubt about. That and you, know The reds are off

842
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: to a good start, Here, tom and you just hope

843
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: they can keep it. Going who knows what's going to

844
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: happen with this with the pitching, staff it looks like

845
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: they've got some solid. Depth you don't want to burn

846
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: this bullpen. Up so, gosh WHEN i When Hunter green

847
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 1: And Nick lodola went on the injured, List i'm, thinking,

848
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: man is this season already? Sabotage but No Chase.

849
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 11: Burns you know the only THING i worry, About, CHICK i,

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00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 11: mean you, know and my concern and this has been

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00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 11: about a three year run on this, concern and it

852
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 11: continues to be the same problem over and over and

853
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 11: over because the same cast of characters In lodolo And

854
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 11: green's case continue year after year after year to get

855
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 11: hurt in some form or. Fashion but now you mix

856
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 11: In williamson who didn't pitch it all last, Year louder

857
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 11: didn't pitch basically at all last, year And burns is

858
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 11: not throwing a full season as a starter where innings

859
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 11: to pile up where you, know so going into this,

860
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 11: Year i'm Not i've never looked at it when When

861
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 11: green And lodolo went, down as is the season getting

862
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 11: sabotaged because to start the, Year, Louder, Williamson burns are

863
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 11: all healthy and they're ready to, go and you've Got

864
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 11: singer And abbot who pitched full seasons by and large last.

865
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 11: Year my concern is is what happens as you move?

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00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 11: Forward because you, Know Tom, BERDUCCI i think was a

867
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 11: guy who did all the research on it initially in

868
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 11: his days Was Sports, illustrated where you, know how many

869
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 11: innings do you ask a pitcher to throw based on

870
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 11: how many he threw the prior, year and every single

871
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 11: Year i've said the same, thing AND i sound like

872
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 11: a broken. Record who's going to be around and who's

873
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 11: going to be standing when you have your biggest games

874
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 11: In august In, september because you're watching the number of

875
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 11: innings these guys are having to pitch just to get,

876
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 11: there And i'm deeply concerned about what that's gonna look

877
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 11: like this. Year, yeah you'll get you'll Get. LIDOLO i,

878
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 11: mean he's gonna be back sooner rather than. Later but

879
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 11: because team that's so much time last, year he's only

880
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 11: gonna GO x number of. Innings let's just say theoretically

881
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 11: you have sixteen hundred innings in a. Season, okay you

882
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 11: mixed in some extra any games that kind of, thing

883
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 11: maybe tack on an additional one hundred innings all told

884
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 11: over the course of the. Year, well you, know you're

885
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 11: you're looking at guys, potentially if they did the ten

886
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 11: to fifteen percent more than they did last, Year, okay

887
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 11: you're gonna be hard pressed to find seven hundred and fifty. Innings,

888
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 11: okay say eight. Hundred you're gonna be hard pressed to

889
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 11: get eight hundred innings in my, opinion out of your starting.

890
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 11: Rotation and SO i just wonder you're right about the

891
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 11: depth and, man when it comes to just pure, stuff

892
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 11: you Watch, louder you Watch.

893
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: Burns their stuff is.

894
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 11: Unbelievable, yes and they have a chance to be really

895
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 11: good major league, pitchers really really. Good but just based

896
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 11: on what you're going to get from them And williamson

897
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 11: from an inning standpoint this, YEAR i am deeply concerned

898
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 11: about who they hand the ball to In august And

899
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 11: september if they're again in the.

900
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: Hut Tom brenneman's with us for a few more, Minutes And,

901
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: tom how About Sal, stewart the youngest player to reach

902
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: base safely three or more times in each of his

903
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: first four games since at least nineteen. Hundred oh, Man,

904
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: yeah it's.

905
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 11: AMAZING i mean the young, man you know everything they've

906
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 11: asked him to.

907
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: Do check the.

908
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 11: BOX i, mean whether it was come up as a

909
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 11: rookie in the middle of a pennant. Race put him

910
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 11: in the, lineup he knocked the cover off the. Ball

911
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 11: you start him on the opening. Day If i'm not.

912
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 11: Mistaken he was only the second rookie in the history

913
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 11: of The reds franchise in a season opener as a

914
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 11: rookie to back clean. Up so you put him in

915
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 11: the cleanup spot as a, rookie and you see what

916
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 11: he's done through the first four games of the. Year

917
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 11: kids off to an unbelievable. START i think that as

918
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 11: the season goes, on there will be a book On

919
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 11: stewart because he came up In september and the majority

920
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 11: of teams in the, league and none of the teams

921
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 11: in the other league saw him at all last. Season you,

922
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 11: know you get the divisional rivals that saw him maybe

923
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 11: a series or two In september last, year and you

924
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 11: played four games this. Year so sooner or later he's

925
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 11: going to be forced to make. Adjustments but the big

926
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 11: feather in his, Cap unlike Say matt, McClean i don't

927
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 11: think McClean has a really good idea of the strike.

928
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 11: ZONE i think he chases a lot of bad. Balls

929
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 11: he had a great. Spring everybody's hoping he'll be the

930
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 11: player we saw two years, ago not the guy we

931
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 11: saw who might have been hurt last year but still

932
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 11: has a very good eye at the, plate rarely chases bad,

933
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 11: balls and THAT i would think would give him a

934
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 11: big advantage in falling into prolonged.

935
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Slumps can we move to The bengals here for a,

936
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: minute and how concerned are we About Joe burrow playing flag? Football,

937
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: WELL i MEAN i heard tracks on. Earlier i'm with

938
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: him all the. WAY i, MEAN i just don't get.

939
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 11: It you, KNOW i don't know why people around here

940
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 11: In Bengals, country why they like get offended when you

941
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 11: say That Joe burrow is injury, prone because he is

942
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 11: the quintessential definition of injury. Prone you can say they're freak,

943
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 11: plays you can say it's a freak, accident you can

944
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 11: call it whatever you want to call. It at the

945
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 11: end of the, day a player is hurt and it

946
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 11: keeps them from playing the sport that they're paid handsomely to.

947
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 11: Play so he is injury, prone AND i.

948
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: Just don't know. WHY i don't know why he would

949
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: want to go do. IT i know he wants to

950
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: go have some.

951
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 11: Fun AND i don't want to sound, like you, know

952
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 11: the old, man get off my. Lawn AND i Think

953
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 11: trag said the same. Thing BUT i think if you're

954
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 11: looking for That bengals, renaissance big, year get back to

955
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 11: where they were four or five years.

956
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Ago the only way that's going to.

957
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 11: Happen you AND i both know a chick is If

958
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 11: burrow plays the whole, Year and SO i just don't

959
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 11: UNDER i GUESS i just MAYBE.

960
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: I am just an old AND i don't. KNOW i

961
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: just don't.

962
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 11: UNDERSTAND i always ask myself the, question what's the? Upside

963
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 11: what that he plays great in the flag football?

964
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: Game who? Cares, yeah he would like he'd like to

965
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: play in The. Olympics he'd love to win An olympic gold.

966
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: Medal that's all. Great but with this salary that he's, getting,

967
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: man he's, uh he truly is the most important player

968
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: probably in this franchise. History no. Text well, ANYWAY i

969
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about.

970
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 11: It and AND i think you can make a strong

971
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 11: in case that you know him and maybe two or

972
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 11: three other guys you could pick out. There they're the

973
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 11: most important players to their particular. Teams in THE, NFL i,

974
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 11: Mean mahomes goes, Down Josh allen goes, Down Lamar jackson goes.

975
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 11: Down you could pick another guy or two, maybe but

976
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 11: there aren't five of them in the league that are

977
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 11: more important to their team Than Joe burrow is to

978
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 11: The Cincinnati.

979
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: Bengals and to.

980
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: Have three new coaches in THE Afc north and The

981
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: bengals continuity that this has to be the year where

982
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: they win this division and you want to host THE

983
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: afc title, game you want to host, two you.

984
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 11: Do and The bengals have incredible. Fans it's an unbelievable

985
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 11: environment when they're. GOOD i, mean, there's for my, money

986
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 11: at the end of the, day there's nothing better in

987
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 11: the town than when they are.

988
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: GOOD i don't know.

989
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 11: Why maybe it's just because THE nfl is so enormously.

990
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 11: Popular and my dad AND i argue about this all

991
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 11: the time about Whether cincinnati's a baseball town or a football.

992
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 2: Town and you, know.

993
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 11: He thinks it's. BASEBALL i think it's. FOOTBALL i don't

994
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 11: think anybody's right or anybody's. Wrong but, man when The

995
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 11: bengals are, good this is just it's a fun place

996
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 11: to be all the entire fall and hopefully Into january

997
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 11: and Even february next year.

998
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: They've won Some World. Series it would be nice to

999
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: win A Super. Bowl there's no, doubt there's no.

1000
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 11: DOUBT i, mean it's just it's so, exciting and you,

1001
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 11: KNOW i mean it's and they've got such great playmakers

1002
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 11: and big stars and you, KNOW i Mean they're a

1003
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 11: team that even if if you don't live In, CINCINNATI

1004
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 11: i think, THAT i, mean everybody kept talking about it

1005
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 11: and out of market people, that you, know if there

1006
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 11: was ever going to be a year For Josh allen

1007
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 11: to do, it he didn't have to deal With. Lamar you,

1008
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 11: know by the time they got to that point in the,

1009
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 11: playoff he didn't have to deal With, burrow he didn't

1010
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 11: have to deal With mahomes being you.

1011
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: Know mahomes of.

1012
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 11: Old, so you, know people around the country recognize that

1013
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 11: that this is A bengals team that man and if

1014
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 11: they get in if they can just slow people down on,

1015
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 11: defense and clearly that's been The achilles. Heel it's kind of,

1016
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 11: IRONIC i, think don't.

1017
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: You chick, that you. KNOW i still feel like the

1018
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 1: reason they got to.

1019
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 11: The Super bowl and the reason they got to THE

1020
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 11: Afc Championship game back to back years was mainly because

1021
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 11: of the. DEFENSE i, mean the offense wasn't putting up

1022
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 11: outside the one game In. Buffalo the offense wasn't the playoff.

1023
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 11: Game they weren't putting up huge points in the, postseason

1024
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 11: but the defense was the one that would come up

1025
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 11: with a big turnover they make a big stop and the,

1026
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 11: offense you, know they couldn't put up twenty five thirty

1027
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 11: points in a. Game so the defense has got to

1028
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 11: help these guys because you're, never no matter what anybody,

1029
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 11: says at the end of the, day you are not

1030
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 11: going to win A Super bowl trying to outscore.

1031
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: People it's just not going to. Happen this is THE

1032
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: afc North. Man you got to have the, defense And,

1033
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: tom we've got to. Run you're doing a phenomenal job

1034
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: in the, mornings listen to all the time driving to.

1035
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: School thank you so much, Anytime, chick have a great, day,

1036
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: Man all, right right back at, You Tom. Brenneman and

1037
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the, hour we're going to open

1038
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: up the phone lines And i'm asking you who were

1039
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: you in the driveway on the blacktop on the, playground

1040
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: because we've got all of, us have a little bit

1041
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: Of Brailen mullins in all of. Us this Is Chick

1042
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: Ludwig and you're listening To CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen thirty With Tarren,

1043
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:43,760
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1044
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,120
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1045
00:58:50,320 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: radio four point thirty in The Queen city Of. Cincinnat

1046
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: this Is Chick ludwig and you're listening To CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen.

1047
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Thirty awesome to be filling in today For moeger on

1048
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: the Mo Eger. SHOW i Appreciate Tarn, bland today's. Producer

1049
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: and we're going to open up the phone lines here

1050
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: Until brenneman And jones on baseball at four point fifty.

1051
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: Today AND i believe we've all got a little bit

1052
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: Of Braylen mullins IN. US i know growing up at

1053
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: the corner Of West Ethan, rosemont on the west, side

1054
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: best side Of, Cincinnati West Price, hill short walk To

1055
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: Saint William's, school in a short walk To Elder High.

1056
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: School we had a hoop in our backyard and my

1057
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: parents bought me A university Of cincinnati sweatshirt as a,

1058
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: kid AND i Was John frailey played one year of

1059
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: basketball at The university Of, cincinnati fell in love with the,

1060
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: guy and then he broke my heart and transferred to

1061
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: The university Of, georgia where he had an outstanding. CAREER

1062
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: a Former MIDDLETOWN midi was an absolute. Stud he was

1063
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: one of my childhood. Heroes BUT i grew up With

1064
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: Oscar robertson And Adrian smith And Jerry lucas And Wayne

1065
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: Ambry wow and going to The Cincinnati. Garden so loved

1066
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: the playing hoops out in our backyard and we walked.

1067
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Everywhere kids came. Over we always had a game. Going

1068
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: AND i want to hear from you at, five, one, three, seven, four,

1069
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: nine fifteen point, thirty who were you on the blacktop

1070
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: in the driveway on the playground is a kid growing

1071
01:00:50,280 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: up that's coming up. Next you are listening To The

1072
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,480
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1073
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,280
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1074
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Speaker 7: Bridge also keep in Mind Crescentville road blocked off due

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Speaker 7: to a stopped train between Trei Con road And Princeton.

1086
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 7: Pike i'm at ezelic with. Traffic this Report.

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati Sports station.

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01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: Four thirty eight in The Queen city Of. Cincinnati CHICK. A,

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: Ludwig this Is CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen. Thirty awesome to be

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: filling in For Moe egger, Today Austin elmore back on

1091
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow For. Mo austin did a phenomenal job earlier today

1092
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: ON cincy three. P sixty AND i was listening to

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01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: him yesterday covering For. Moe. Awesome austin does a fantastic.

1094
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: Job AND i appreciate all the loyal listeners out there

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01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: on The home of The, Bengals CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen. Thirty

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01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: AND i certainly appreciate our Producer Tarren. Bland who were

1097
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: you on the driveway shooting hoops as a kid counting

1098
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: down three two, one and of course you made the

1099
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: shot to beat the. Buzzer it was always. Good who

1100
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: were you to hear from you at five, one? Three

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01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: seven four, nine fifteen. Thirty i've got my, Coffee i've

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: got my. Computer ALL i need is you once again

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01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: at seven four, nine fifteen. Thirty, hey coming up at

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: the top of the, Hour Steve, grody elder And university

1105
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: Of michigan basketball, legend going to join us to talk

1106
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: about his career and about the Awesome Michigan wolverine's going

1107
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: for ANOTHER ncaa. Title, well let's go out to the

1108
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: phones and welcome. In jim In centerville has a comment

1109
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: about The. Reds, Hey, jim what is on your? Mind hey?

1110
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 10: Chick, oh glad to have.

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01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 13: YOU i.

1112
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 14: WAS i know this isn't going to be very popular In,

1113
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 14: cincinnati But i'm a dating. Kid, yes for, me it

1114
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 14: Was Roosevelt.

1115
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: Chapman ooh, yes, wow six foot only six foot. Four

1116
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: if he was say three or four inches, taller, man

1117
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: he'd have been in THE. Nba but what a, great

1118
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: great player.

1119
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 14: Yep all time leading scorer AT. Uds, yes, yes WHEN

1120
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 14: i was what ten eleven years old right when right

1121
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 14: in that wheelhouse, there so showing my age a little.

1122
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 14: Bit but he was, great, Definitely so you know what.

1123
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: A.

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: Jim WHILE i got you, HERE i went to The

1125
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Dayton Saint louis. Game, okay at you the. Arena AND

1126
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: i like to say this that going to it's an.

1127
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Experience going to you the. Arena it is a, combination

1128
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 1: not just a basketball. Game it is a combination rock,

1129
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: concert fraternity party and sorority, party a town hall, meeting

1130
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 1: and a high school. Reunion it's.

1131
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 14: Unbelievable, yeah, yeah there's they say it all the, time

1132
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 14: but there's not a. Better there's not many better arenas

1133
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 14: in the The New. Arena they really do, it.

1134
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: And it's hosted every, game and it's hosted the most

1135
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: NC douaa tournament games of any venue on the.

1136
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 14: Planet, yes for, reason for a, reason, yes, so but,

1137
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 14: HEY i did want to SAY i didn't see you

1138
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 14: this year at The Catholic Catholic Youth league volleyball. Matches

1139
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 14: where you are you still reffing?

1140
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 10: Those you know WHAT i?

1141
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: AM i did thirty eight of. THEM i did thirty

1142
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: eight matches kids From Holy angels To incarnation to. UH

1143
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: i was At ascension for the, tournament AND i was

1144
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: At Saint, luke so we were all. Over we just

1145
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: missed one. Another but, yeah it sounds like.

1146
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 14: It, YEAH i have a son and daughter that both,

1147
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 14: play and it was it was a good year for my,

1148
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 14: daughter definitely my. Son you, know a little bit of

1149
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 14: NEPOTISM i think in that league, sometimes but you, know

1150
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 14: he didn't get the playing. Time but another day for.

1151
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: That amen And, JIM i just read AND i just

1152
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: read Where Nebraska university Of nebraska's volleyball, team as we all,

1153
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: know it's just. Awesome they're going to play an outdoor

1154
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: game At Wrigley field this. Fall. Wow so that place

1155
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: is just going to be. INSANE i just love the.

1156
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 14: Sport volleyball's a lot of fun to. Watch it's. Underrated

1157
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 14: not a lot of people think about, it but you,

1158
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 14: know and then now that you know boys are playing volleyball,

1159
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 14: more it really is a fun.

1160
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: Sports you, Too, yes it.

1161
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 4: Is.

1162
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah and do you have a comment on The, Reds.

1163
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:40,479
Speaker 14: Jim, SO i have in my man cave a team

1164
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 14: picture from the nineteen eighty Six Cincinnati, reds AND i

1165
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 14: was looking at that the other day AND i was

1166
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 14: thinking of how this team reminds me of The Pete

1167
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 14: Rose reds from a batting, Perspective and WHAT i mean

1168
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 14: by that is you have the old guy you, Had Dave.

1169
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 14: Parker Then now it's A HENNY o swore you had

1170
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 14: this the lightning fast phenom super hitter In Ellie Da La.

1171
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 14: Cruz you Had Eric, davis and now we Have Sal.

1172
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 14: Stewart And i'm telling YOU i told a lot of people,

1173
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 14: this he reminds me Of Cal.

1174
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: Daniels.

1175
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 14: Wow AND i know that doesn't sound like a compliment

1176
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 14: to somebody who's growing up and never Saw Cal daniels.

1177
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 14: Play But i'm telling you Cal daniels could have and

1178
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 14: should have been a.

1179
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:35,959
Speaker 1: Star he. Was he was. Awesome what a hitting machine he, was, yes.

1180
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 14: Right, right contact and, power a solid Steady. Eddie you,

1181
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 14: know just the way they have Salth stewart breaking up

1182
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 14: the strikeout combo Of ellie And. ANNE i think that's

1183
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 14: kind of What Pete rose did with with Cal daniels

1184
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 14: a lot of times, too because you knew you were

1185
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 14: going to get a hit out of.

1186
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: Him most of the.

1187
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 14: Time, HEY i was wondering, Though, yeah you.

1188
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: Go, ahead go, Ahead Dot, Jim, Yes.

1189
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 14: Oh, SORRY i was just wondering do you know who

1190
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 14: we traded him for or how whatever happened with? HIM

1191
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 14: i know he had injuries and. Stuff it wasn't like

1192
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 14: you know What.

1193
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: I'll try to look that up on a break here

1194
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: if you keep on. Listening. UH i made a trip

1195
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: To Wrigley field with friends And cal was in left

1196
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: field and we were calling his name and he was

1197
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: waving at. Us loved, him loved, him good. Guy, yes, ye, well, Hey,

1198
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: jim appreciate the, Call thanks so. Much.

1199
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 14: Thanks take care.

1200
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: All, right take care. Hey paul In cleaves wants to

1201
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: check him in on who he was in the driveway

1202
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: counting down three two one at Buzzer. Beater paul And,

1203
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: cleaves how are you doing?

1204
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 8: Well doing? WELL i actually WHEN i was a kid growing,

1205
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 8: Up i'm going to show my, age but it Was

1206
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 8: Chris mullins At Saint.

1207
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 4: John oh lefty as.

1208
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 8: WELL i absolutely loved. HIM i followed him throughout his

1209
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 8: career from what he went To Golden, state even through

1210
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 8: his drug and alcohol. PROBLEMS i still love that. MAN

1211
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 8: i think he was one of my favorite just you,

1212
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 8: know pure. Shooter you, know.

1213
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: Never met a shot he didn't. Like he was. Awesome

1214
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: he really.

1215
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 8: Was, yeah everybody thought he was going to be the

1216
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 8: Next Larry. Bird but the thing about him was was

1217
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 8: being a. Lefty BUT i don't, KNOW i think HE

1218
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 8: i thought he was as good as a passer As

1219
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 8: bird was as.

1220
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: Well so, YEAH i got to See bird play one,

1221
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: time and that was at the Old Market square arena In,

1222
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: indianapolis the former home of The. Casers and JUST i

1223
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: just in my mind's, EYE i See larry leading a

1224
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: fast break and just his hands were so fast passing the.

1225
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: Ball and yes he could, shoot you, know he he

1226
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: didn't have the great, vertical but, man he was. Tough

1227
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: he was, smart, great just great instincts all the way

1228
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: around and just a phenomenal passer and shooter of the.

1229
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: Basketball loved.

1230
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 8: Him like one of my one of my all time

1231
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 8: favorite teams, was uh with The Golden State warris Was Chris,

1232
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 8: Mullins Tim, Hardaway Mitch, Richmond Serrudush. Barcelonis, yeah, Uh Chris.

1233
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 8: WEBBER i mean they Were they were just a bunch

1234
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 8: of guys that were six six that could. Shoot but

1235
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 8: the problem was if they weren't, on they just got

1236
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 8: and they they didn't have. It that was in the

1237
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 8: in the era of the, bigs you, know with The

1238
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 8: patricks and The lajahuans and stuff like, that and they

1239
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 8: didn't have the BIG i mean you Had Chris webber,

1240
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 8: playing you, know playing the five spots at six.

1241
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: Nine, so yeah oh AND uh i Bumped Into don

1242
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: nilson gosh on. Our honeymoon, uh yeah on a Honeymoon,

1243
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: to hawaii okay For the dayton played over there In

1244
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: The Shamanad christmas classic and walk into, THE arena i

1245
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: Bump Into don, nelson, Him uh Halachek. And bird really

1246
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: The only CELTICS that i liked because they would Beat.

1247
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 7: The.

1248
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: Royals UH when i was a KID and i Hated.

1249
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: The celtics, oh, YEAH yeah i.

1250
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 8: Mean it was Always the Celtics, and lakers and then

1251
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 8: it turned Into the bulls And, the pistons, you know and, you,

1252
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 8: know yeah that was the that was the era at.

1253
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: That, time ay, Fantastic. STUFF paul i got. To run,

1254
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: Appreciate you thank you? All Right, Hey, rob rob who

1255
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: was the guy you pretended to be shooting and counting

1256
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: down three? Two? One yes, hey chick oh, great man.

1257
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: Great yeah growing up in, our neighborhood It Was. Rex, chapman,

1258
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: yes yes and here's a.

1259
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: True story.

1260
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 13: He said the same park we're sitting there pretending To Be.

1261
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 13: Rex chapman it's near a swimming pool we would go

1262
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 13: to when. Every year we'd just swimming every summer and

1263
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 13: there's a lifeguard there that she went TO. The, uk

1264
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 13: well we're sitting there shooting baskets and she's. Coming down

1265
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 13: she ain't working. That day she's coming down the hill

1266
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,879
Speaker 13: and this dude's walking. With her It Was. Rex chapman.

1267
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 1: All, that yeah he's going down.

1268
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 4: And started shooting baskets.

1269
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 13: With US and i Had my rex Chap for jersey

1270
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 13: on that day and it was quite.

1271
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: An experience that's phenomenal to me to meet one of.

1272
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: Your heroes, absolutely awesome. Beautiful stuff, appreciate it, rob uh.

1273
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,839
Speaker 1: Let's it. Thank you Mike in la, are, Good Buddy, Hey, mike.

1274
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 5: Hey ched what's up?

1275
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: All right great to hear, Your.

1276
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 15: Voice mike great to, hear, You kid very good to

1277
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 15: hear you at this time of. The day nice and, Unus, today, yes, Sir,

1278
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 15: yeah well you know.

1279
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 16: The people call in and they say this and that

1280
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 16: and this. And that but YOU and i know back

1281
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 16: in the day.

1282
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 5: And a, Bored everybody. I'm sure but When the bearcats

1283
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 5: won those two back to backs and you don't stay

1284
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 5: two years in, a row went to the final of the,

1285
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 5: third Year Lost loyola Chicago With, Paul Hoge, Tony Yates,

1286
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Speaker 5: Tom Packer, Larry Shingleton, Ron.

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: Bonham, Ye, Yates, Sacker, hoge Bonham And. Wilson man they

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01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: were my heroes. Growing up, OH yes.

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01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 16: I mean i used to cry When THEY oh.

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: I cried to night they Lost. TO loyola i like to, Say,

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: this MIKE and i haven't stopped crying since nineteen. Sixty,

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: three oh.

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01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 16: The junkers go TO juck i can't remember the jugger

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 16: going to a Stall.

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: When, oh yeah he. Absolutely did he. Absolutely DID and

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01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: i just don't think, the officials the gods of basketball

1297
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: were gonna let you see win a THIRD consecutive ncaa

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: championship for the. First Time, and mike, WITH that i got.

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01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: A run We've got Brenneman and jones coming up. On

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Speaker 1: baseball thank you. So much you're listening To The Chickster

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Speaker 1: chick Ludwig ON cincinnati's espn. Fifteen thirty Brenneman and Jones

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Speaker 1: Five oh five In The queens City.

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Speaker 9: Of.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati chicklog This IS cincinnati's espn. Fifteen thirty we are

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01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: going all the way to six. O'clock Tonight tarren bland is.

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01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: Tonight's producer. Welcome in AND when i think Of the

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01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: University of, MICHIGAN basketball i think of. ONE guy i

1320
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: grew up at the Corner Of West, ethan rosemond and

1321
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: his family was right up the Street, on Rosemont A

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01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati elder high school legend football, and basketball and he

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 1: Played for johnny or At the University, of michigan a

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: four year starting star at guard For. The wolverines welcome

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01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: in to. The program my Good Friend, Steve grody steve

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01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: how are, you?

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 10: Uh chick i'm.

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01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 17: DOING great, i mean, Come on michigan has one of

1329
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 17: the best college BASKETBALL teams i have.

1330
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 10: Ever seen and.

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: Boy, oh BOY and i got.

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 17: My tickets i'm Headed to indy for the weekend And

1333
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 17: hope i'll be headed back down There.

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 4: On monday.

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: Too fantastic it truly is a, Complete Team. Steve, grody

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01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: wow and what? A matchup an absolute dream matchup in

1337
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: the semi Finals. Against arizona are you? Kidding? Me wow

1338
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: could that game be for the?

1339
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 17: National title those are clearly the two best teams out of.

1340
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 17: The four, But see michigan didn't play to their ultimate

1341
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 17: ability down, the STRETCH and i believe by Losing the

1342
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 17: purdue that is what ended up putting him In the

1343
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 17: arizona bracket where they should have been in on the.

1344
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 10: Other side but, you know so it's going to be

1345
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 10: a shame for either one.

1346
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 17: Of those teams to get beat because it. Should be,

1347
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 17: in fact you, Know, what chick why don't you be

1348
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 17: a promoter have those two teams play again and just

1349
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 17: ask for.

1350
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 10: A championship, i'm coming, oh man fifteen thirty?

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: National champion, no, Kidding, Wow steve i've been asking all

1352
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,520
Speaker 1: my guests today that there's a little Bit Of brailn

1353
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: mullins in all of Us. From yukon who? Were YOU

1354
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: and i know you battled Your brother bob on the,

1355
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: you know in the driveway at times as, A kid

1356
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: but who were you in the driveway counting, down three

1357
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: two one and and you put up the last second

1358
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: shot that? Went in who?

1359
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 4: Were?

1360
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 10: You well, YOU know I never i never.

1361
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 17: Had THAT but i don't KNOW why i was made,

1362
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 17: this WAY but i had. NO heroes i remember Watching

1363
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 17: The cleveland browns, play FOOTBALL and i remember Watching the

1364
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 17: chicallgo play and ALL that i.

1365
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 10: Was ever thinking is Is THAT.

1366
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 17: I'm i would never miss a tackle like these guys

1367
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 17: are Missing Missing, tim, Brown Okay and i'm going to

1368
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 17: be better than the middle Linebacker. For chicago But, At

1369
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 17: dias i'm going to be better. Than HIM and i never.

1370
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 17: SAID it i Was just That's what i'm thinking in.

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01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 17: My mind but you'll remember. This name So At, Saint

1372
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 17: William's rod darringer was the first really good PLAYER that i,

1373
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 17: knew of and he was the first guy who could

1374
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 17: make shots from the top of. The key AND so i, just,

1375
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 17: Said hey i'm going to be better, than him, you

1376
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 17: know and so.

1377
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 10: And so, you KNOW so i went down right after school,

1378
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 10: every day as, you know we, go home, change clothes

1379
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 10: go back to the, school yard play whatever sport was.

1380
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 10: Being played, and uh, back then the game was.

1381
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 17: Just different it was all about getting to. The basket,

1382
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 17: you know if you watch replays of our national cham

1383
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 17: game in nineteen, seventy six you will not believe some

1384
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 17: of the wide open fifteen eighteen footers that nobody would

1385
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 17: shoot because got to get it to the gotta get

1386
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 17: it to. The basket so so.

1387
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 10: That's, uh yeah but, you know.

1388
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 17: And you may remember that one Basket Downer SAINT william's

1389
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 17: i mean the black.

1390
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: Jet, was yes you.

1391
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 17: KNOW it i mean at the top of. The key

1392
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 17: you were probably only going to shoot at eight feet in,

1393
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 17: the air.

1394
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: You, Know Oh fritz meyer used to tease us all.

1395
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: The time, you know you get. Bloody, knees uh if

1396
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: you Were All saint william's, school yard that was that was,

1397
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: THE goal i mean, That, place.

1398
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 17: Yeah it just Was Uh, Timmy Meyer, Tommy, myer yeah

1399
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 17: another great.

1400
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: Great player when You Mentioned, rod darrenger when His dad

1401
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: ray Took The cleveland state job And took rodney AWAY

1402
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: FROM us i think after his. SOPHOMORE year, i mean we.

1403
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: All cried the dude was wound up being a. Great

1404
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: player came back and played at the Univer At. Miami University, but,

1405
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: Ray uh ray had his opportunity to Really Take cleveland

1406
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: state to the. Next level, and uh He's a Hall

1407
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 1: of fame coach and, uh.

1408
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 17: Yeah and, he was, of course, you know uh when

1409
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 17: when they, were here he was the assistant COACH at u, see,

1410
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 17: yes yes and and so, you know IT'S always i

1411
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 17: found in, my lifetime. It's ALWAYS and i was blessed

1412
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 17: to have an older brother because, guess what you're not

1413
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 17: supposed to beat your.

1414
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 10: Older BROTHER so i had, a constant.

1415
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 17: You know, uh goal uh to achieve higher than than

1416
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 17: my age and uh and so down there at the,

1417
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 17: school yard almost everybody was older. Than ME because i

1418
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 17: remember some guy one day, telling me, you KNOW and

1419
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 17: i won't to admit to this because, YOU know I

1420
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 17: remember i remember many days because he lived right There

1421
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 17: on sunset and, Uh you i'd see you coming.

1422
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 10: Home from the.

1423
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 17: Schoolyard crying and, he said because you're always playing with

1424
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 17: guys four and five years older. Than, You yeah I've

1425
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 17: never i've, never cried let's get. That, Straight okay, but anyway,

1426
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 17: but yeah so.

1427
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 10: You know you grew up.

1428
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 17: Like that and and, in football the what what was

1429
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 17: drilled into my head is if they, don't score we.

1430
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: Can't, lose, yeah yeah and.

1431
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 10: So so even so even.

1432
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 17: In basketball, you know THAT'S why i liked playing defense

1433
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 17: so much and said that they because if they, can't

1434
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 17: score we.

1435
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: Can't, lose hey and a friend of yours and mine,

1436
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: says HELLO because i mentioned you On my facebook, Page

1437
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: Today greg school, says hello, And uh greg. Came back

1438
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 1: we brought him Back To Price hill chili in a wig,

1439
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: and disguise but as soon as he, walked in everybody

1440
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: knew who. He was he scored forty on Us At Elder,

1441
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: high school knocked us out of the regional semifinals At

1442
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: The cincinnati garden Forty. FOUR princeton i was so happy

1443
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: For The princeton vikings To win division one state title.

1444
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: This Year But, greg schewell a Legend, at princeton says

1445
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: hello To both steve and Your brother Bob and. Mike

1446
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: two so, But, anyway.

1447
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 10: Steve here here's an interesting here's one real quick interesting

1448
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 10: Thing About.

1449
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: Greg, seul YES and.

1450
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 17: I recently i've had a number of let me tell,

1451
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 17: it's unbelievable how many people remember. That, game YES and

1452
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 17: i get, kidded that, you, know, yeah yeah you were

1453
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 17: some great, defensive player so scored forty four. On you and,

1454
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 17: YOU know I couldn't that's one of THE things i.

1455
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 17: COULDN'T remember, i know it was in foul trouble. As

1456
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 17: usual but finally ONE day i was playing Golf with Ronnie.

1457
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 10: Hart, toyins yes.

1458
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 17: And ron finally somebody brought it up for, some Reason

1459
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 17: and ron, finally, admitted YEAH and i.

1460
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 10: Was the guy. GARDING him, i said, all right it was. Not, me.

1461
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh well just to fast forward here To

1462
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: the University, of michigan there's an award Named The Steve

1463
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,839
Speaker 1: Grody hustle award because for the folks, Out there steve

1464
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: was just blood and guts. Player Period, and steve you

1465
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 1: scored over thirteen hundred points in your career At the University.

1466
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Of michigan you rank twenty ninth according to these records

1467
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:36,480
Speaker 1: here three d and, thirty points and you're the first

1468
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: player in NC double a history to play in FOUR consecutive.

1469
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: Ncuba tournaments what does that mean?

1470
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 10: To, you, well well.

1471
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 17: The thing that strikes me the most is everybody talks about,

1472
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 17: you know you listen to these announcers, about pressure you.

1473
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 10: Know, pressure okay you know they look are. Looking.

1474
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 17: Tired okay so you got to REMEMBER when i was,

1475
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 17: a freshman no games were. On television there was there

1476
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 17: were no four, minute. Timeouts okay and we had a

1477
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 17: very VERY good uh team that was in, great shape

1478
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 17: and we, played pressure man and. Man defense we ran

1479
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 17: a fast break and you had to win every single

1480
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 17: game because you had to Win The big ten to

1481
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 17: get IN the. Ncaa tournament what happened is is my,

1482
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 17: freshman year We tied indiana For The big ten championship

1483
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 17: and nobody really knew what was going. To happen and

1484
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 17: then then so the league, just, decided hey we'll just

1485
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 17: have a. Playoff Game and indiana. Was good that's when

1486
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 17: they're they're, great players, were sophomores and so we, beat them, and,

1487
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 17: so uh that's that's that's that's a. Great memory, last

1488
01:25:55,720 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 17: year only sixteen got in and then and then, you

1489
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 17: know the very FIRST game i, Played in i'm going

1490
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 17: to say that there were five thousand people at.

1491
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 10: The game People hated.

1492
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 17: Michigan basketball we were picked to finish ninth preseason out,

1493
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 17: of ten and then we really. Took OFF so i

1494
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 17: was LUCKY because i got, the experience the range of

1495
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 17: experiences from your pick to finish ninth in a ten.

1496
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 17: Man league you're an underdog every, single game nobody thinks you're.

1497
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 17: Any good and THEN when i was, a senior we

1498
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 17: were ranked number one in. The COUNTRY so i got

1499
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 17: to see the bottom to the top and how it,

1500
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 17: all happened and so hey to happen.

1501
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 1: Very, often yeah you want to go Back to february

1502
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: seventh of nineteen, Seventy six Michigan against Indiana At. Assembly

1503
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: hall now the Record says. Indiana one this is their,

1504
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: undefeated season thirty two and seventy two to sixty seven.

1505
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 1: In overtime and you Claim the wolverines won. That game.

1506
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 10: We won that game based on the rules at.

1507
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 17: The time two weeks prior, to then we were Playing At.

1508
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 17: Illinois illino we were Down one illinois at the free,

1509
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 17: throw line shooting one, in one missed the. Free throw

1510
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 17: they throw the outlet pass, to me run it down,

1511
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 17: the Floor Hit phil hubbard for and he misses a. Running,

1512
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 17: layup okay, One two the third tip is laying on,

1513
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 17: the rim the horn goes off and the ball falls through.

1514
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 17: No basket what because there there there was a rule

1515
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:56,879
Speaker 17: on the books back then that said an uncontrolled shot

1516
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 17: had to be through the basket before the horn.

1517
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 3: Went.

1518
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 17: Off okay now two, weeks later we're Playing. At indiana

1519
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 17: we're winning the, entire game we're never behind the. Entire game,

1520
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 17: same situation but we've got the ball we're up to

1521
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 17: and we're trying to run the clock out and they.

1522
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 10: Foul me and just think. About that all you gotta.

1523
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 17: Do is make the front end of the one and

1524
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 17: one perfect perfect.

1525
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 10: Season's OVER but i, missed it so they ran the

1526
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 10: ball down.

1527
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 17: The Floor quinn, buckner terrible, terrible shooter terrible. Football player

1528
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 17: he barely hits the left side of. The rim the

1529
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 17: ball's falling out of going out of bounds on the left.

1530
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 17: Base Line jimmy cruz, grabs it he throws, it up

1531
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:42,839
Speaker 17: it goes over.

1532
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 10: The Rim kent benson.

1533
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,839
Speaker 17: Goes Over phil hubbard tips it and hits the board

1534
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 17: and goes in to tie.

1535
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 10: THE game i go to. THE officials i said that

1536
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 10: basket was. No good it was an. Uncontrolled shot an

1537
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 10: uncontrolled shot have to be through the basket before the horn.

1538
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 17: Goes off and. It wasn't so they huddled together and

1539
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:17,480
Speaker 17: their ruling was just. So bad these guys got SUSPENDED

1540
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 17: for i think a couple.

1541
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 10: Of weeks they ruled and stay that was a. Controlled

1542
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 10: tip so the baskets good and we went into overtime

1543
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 10: and got beat seventy two to.

1544
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Sixty seven just incredible.

1545
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 10: Controlled tip and then that rule.

1546
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 17: Was, eliminated well it was not on the books the.

1547
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: Next year we don't want to spend too, much time

1548
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: like you mentioned On, The cavaliers like, you mentioned there

1549
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: was some gosh. Financial issues you could only have what?

1550
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,919
Speaker 1: Eleven players you were One Of bill fitch's. Final cuts

1551
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: after you're playing Days. At michigan and then were you

1552
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: an assistant coach before your. Broadcasting, career.

1553
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 10: NO but i had a grand assistance Job.

1554
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: AT michigan i.

1555
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 17: WENT back i NEEDED one i need a few classes

1556
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 17: to get, my DEGREE so i. Did that, you know

1557
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 17: the athletic department was kind enough to pay for one

1558
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 17: extra semester, for me AND then i went.

1559
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 10: Back out To The west coast to play in The Summer. Pro,

1560
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 10: league AGAIN and.

1561
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: I signed With.

1562
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 17: The Reno, big horns who were IN, the Cba and

1563
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 17: i'd hurt my foot RIGHT before i.

1564
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 10: Went there it. Never HEALED and i Got the.

1565
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 17: Michigan games we're going to be, televised LOCALLY and i

1566
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 17: met with the.

1567
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 10: PROMOTER and i.

1568
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 17: Got the job as the, color MAN and i SO

1569
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 17: then I just i RETIRED and i stopped.

1570
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 10: PLAYING defense i shot the ball EVERY time i got

1571
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 10: it in the.

1572
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Rec leagues you had an accomplished, Broadcasting, Career steve how

1573
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,919
Speaker 1: did it? All END may? I, Ask.

1574
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 10: Well i'm not really certain. About that.

1575
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 17: There were only there were ONLY two cbs, Color Men,

1576
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 17: billy PACKER and i was, number two and THERE was

1577
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 17: i had a lot.

1578
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 10: Of support to uh at the final four to do

1579
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 10: one of the Semis and billy to.

1580
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Do another.

1581
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 17: And THEN for i, don't know for some, unknown reason

1582
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 17: the NEXT year i got all my games are out

1583
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 17: On The, west coast and then my contract was. Not renewed, and,

1584
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:51,799
Speaker 17: so okay, you know the money. Was good the money's

1585
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 17: great now and you could.

1586
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 10: Do it it could be your full.

1587
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 17: Time job, back then there still weren't that many GAMES,

1588
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 17: on TV and UH so i continue to do uh

1589
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 17: some league games. ON cable i did it for quite,

1590
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 17: a while and, then finally you, KNOW what i, GOT

1591
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 17: married i was Gonna start we're gonna.

1592
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 10: Have kids, right AWAY and i didn't want to be gone,

1593
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 10: every WEEKEND so i.

1594
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 17: Stopped applying for, TWO years i got calls in the

1595
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 17: middle of, The year hey would you come to, A

1596
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 17: game and THEN now i would get more and more

1597
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 17: games for. That season and then finally the THIRD year

1598
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 17: i did. Not apply that's when it when it when it.

1599
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 17: All ended but.

1600
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 10: But, it was, YOU know i WAS on i did

1601
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 10: GAMES for espn the very first year they were on.

1602
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 1: The, air YES so i did.

1603
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 10: It for quite. A, while.

1604
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 4: Well it. Was fun it.

1605
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: Was, fun yes it's. Been incredible and, Last, thing steve

1606
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 1: the way the game. Is played now your head's going

1607
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: to be on a swivel because the ball, goes inside it,

1608
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 1: goes out it goes across. The, Court, wow uh. It's, wild.

1609
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 17: Well, you KNOW the i think most most most guys

1610
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 17: who you know in our age group, would say, YOU

1611
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 17: know i.

1612
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 10: Don't even know what a foul, is anymore and that's

1613
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 10: what is it just.

1614
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 17: BOTHERS me i don't know what a. Fowl is and

1615
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 17: the problem is that all of a sudden they call

1616
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 17: one and you'll hear the, announcer, say correctly well that was.

1617
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 17: Tic tack they've been calling that the, entire game and

1618
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 17: then they decided to call it.

1619
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 10: One TIME and.

1620
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 17: I think the most obvious one that just happened was

1621
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 17: in the duke the, duke.

1622
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 10: Game OKAY and.

1623
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 17: I mean one of the brothers just absolutely ran Over

1624
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 17: the mullins kid and it was, an obvious obvious charge

1625
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 17: and was starting to get late in, the game didn't didn't.

1626
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 17: Call it he goes in makes a nice easy basket

1627
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 17: for two and and so.

1628
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 10: That's uh the biggest the BIGGEST grape i have is the.

1629
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 17: Jump stop here is what is wrong with the way

1630
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 17: they are officiating IT and I and i went over

1631
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 17: This With. Dusty may so here's. What happens you're dribbling into,

1632
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 17: the lane you jump up in, the air you come

1633
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 17: down to a. Jump, stop now the rule is that

1634
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 17: you have.

1635
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 10: To create a. Pivot, foot yeah and that pivot.

1636
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 17: Foot remains now they'll let now, They well i'll say

1637
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 17: your pivot foot is your. Right one they'll let you lift,

1638
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 17: that up go on to your left foot and shoot.

1639
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 17: A layup it's walking or you come to a jump

1640
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 17: stop and then they'll let you shoot a fade away in. The. Lane,

1641
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 17: okay NOW so I, TOLD dusty, i said just here's,

1642
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 17: the problem and they don't. Realize It, r dusty you're you're.

1643
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 17: Guarding me we're at the three. Point line we'll get

1644
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 17: late in. The game shot clock's about to. Go down i'm.

1645
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 17: DRIBBLING left i go up to shoot. A three you rush,

1646
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 17: at me go. Buy ME but i don't shoot. THE ball, i,

1647
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 17: SAY hey i just came down to a. Jump STOP

1648
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,560
Speaker 17: then i go up and shoot.

1649
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 10: My three pointer and.

1650
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 17: Make it it's the exact same it's the exact. Same

1651
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 17: footwork you're up in, the air you come, back down and.

1652
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 10: Then then you go.

1653
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: Up again oh.

1654
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: That's beautiful but.

1655
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 10: But And even dusty, he, said well they call.

1656
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 17: That traveling and so we were doing the conversation and

1657
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 17: he was walking AWAY and i saw him jumping up

1658
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 17: in the air a little bit.

1659
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: Coming down you could tell he was trying to think. It, Through,

1660
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 1: hey steve this is this. IS awesome i want to

1661
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: wish you all the best Going. To indy good luck To.

1662
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: The wolverines man got to get you in studio for.

1663
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: An hour some night would be uh would, be priceless

1664
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 1: but this has. Been fantastic really appreciate your time.

1665
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 10: To congratulations you know darn well how proud we are.

1666
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 1: Of you thank you, So much Love the. Roady family, All,

1667
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: right steve thank you, so.

1668
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 10: Much buddy thanks.

1669
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: All right coming up to the bottom, The Hour jan

1670
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:17,640
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1677
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 7: little bit through. That area southbound seventy one seventy five

1678
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,880
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1679
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,759
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1680
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,599
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1681
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:56,400
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1682
01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig tarren bland is. Today's producer thank you So

1683
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,000
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1684
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,840
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1685
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,200
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1686
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: horde who is At the University of cincinnati's football. Spring

1687
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:23,599
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1688
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1689
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1690
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1691
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1692
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1693
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1699
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1700
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1701
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1702
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1709
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 12: Dan Horde, Dan. Welcome jakespeare that's quite. The intro i'll

1710
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 12: try to live up to it and not scare any

1711
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 12: of the chick. Magnets.

1712
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Away wow i've asked every guest this same question here

1713
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 1: right out of, The Shoot, dan horde when you were,

1714
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: a kid there's a little Bit Of brailen mullins in all.

1715
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: Of us and when you were a kid on the,

1716
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 1: black top, the hardwood, the backyard counting, down, three, two

1717
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: one who?

1718
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 9: WERE you.

1719
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 3: I was.

1720
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 12: Bob McAdoo so for those who Remember The buffalo braves

1721
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 12: of the, nineteen seventies they Became, the clippers but they

1722
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,799
Speaker 12: Were the braves during. MY childhood i was, Number eleven,

1723
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 12: bob McAdoo rocking that Light blue, Buffalo braves JERSEY and

1724
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 12: i rarely missed when there was nobody there to witness

1725
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 12: the end result of. The shot oh that. IS fantastic i.

1726
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: LOVE it i was a guy my Named Of john

1727
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 1: fraley who spent one year At the University of cincinnati

1728
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: and then broke my heart Transferring. To georgia but A

1729
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: middletown midi wearing My university's cincinnati sweatshirt in the in,

1730
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: THE backyard a. Driveway Legend, john frayley.

1731
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 2: That's THE name i have not.

1732
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: Heard before how did he do after he transferred to

1733
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: have a? Good career?

1734
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 7: He?

1735
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: Did uh he Averaged over he only was like twelve

1736
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 1: points a game for uc and then Transferred to georgia.

1737
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: Twenty points uh and then. Like eleven so but A

1738
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: MIDDLETOWN midi a legend and, uh yeah love. The guy

1739
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: love the.

1740
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 12: Guy well bob McAdoo And, John frailey, yes Guys.

1741
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: And, Tarren Bland ron lewis who hit the For, the

1742
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: buckeyes who hit the three To tie xavier and go

1743
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: into overtime and. Then Win So ron Lewis And tom

1744
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: Brenneman was George carl so Huh Just north carolina Roots Of, Marty's, yes, Yes,

1745
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: well Dan the bearcats twenty twenty six spring football. Practices

1746
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: underway it's building up to a spring Showcase on. April

1747
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: eighteen where you would practice today and what do? YOU

1748
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 1: see i was in.

1749
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 12: Practice today i've been able to attend the. LAST three

1750
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 12: i would say today the. Defense Won so i've attended.

1751
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 12: Three practices the offense dominated, the first it was pretty

1752
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,839
Speaker 12: much an even split in, the second and the defense.

1753
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 12: Won TODAY so i think that's how the coaches, like,

1754
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 12: it honestly where it kind of evens out in. The

1755
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 12: end some days the, offense wins some days the. DEFENSE

1756
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 12: wins i thought the defense, won TODAY and I think

1757
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 12: bearcat fans will be happy to hear that the three

1758
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 12: three five, Is dead so for people who struggle to

1759
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 12: watch that the last, few years and the lack of

1760
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 12: pressure on. The quarterback with the new Defensive Coordinator nate

1761
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 12: woodye who Came, from army they were coming from all.

1762
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 12: Angles today they put a lot of pressure on the

1763
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 12: various qbs that were. Out there so that was kind

1764
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 12: of fun. To SEE and i know for, the guys

1765
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 12: it's much more fun.

1766
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 1: To play and, you Know following, Soresby's, Transfer gosh i'm

1767
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 1: READING About jc french the fourth and some. Other players

1768
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: just such a critical Position here french Coming, From gosh

1769
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 1: memphis And And. Georgia southern and hopefully hopefully. He's, good

1770
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: yeah hopefully he. Is good he throws a.

1771
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 12: NICE ball i can tell you that he's got, great

1772
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 12: mechanics really, quick release throws a nice. Tight spiral his

1773
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 12: arm is not as Strong As, brendan soresby's he's not

1774
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 12: as Big As. Brendan soresby he's not as good a

1775
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 12: Runner As. Brendan soresby but there's a Reason Why texas

1776
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 12: tech is paying that guy five point five. Million dollars

1777
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 12: he was considered to be the number one quarterback available in.

1778
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:42,759
Speaker 12: The portal cincinnati cannot devote five point five million dollars

1779
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 12: of its football budget to.

1780
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 1: One guy SO. HOPEFULLY. J.

1781
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 12: C french she might Not Be, brendan soresby but hopefully

1782
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 12: he's good enough to lead this team where they want.

1783
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 12: To go he won a bowl game, Last Year, georgia

1784
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 12: southern Winning The. Birmingham bowl he led that team to

1785
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 12: winning records each of the last, two years and he's

1786
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 12: the schools all time. Leading passers so he might Not Be,

1787
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 12: brendan SORESBY but i, do think based On what i've

1788
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 12: seen in, three practices he's good enough To help cincinnati win.

1789
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: Some Games, dan horde how awesome would it be if

1790
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: we could Have a cincinnati sports renaissance With, the Reds,

1791
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 1: THE bengals, uc football. And basketball i'm. PREDICTING it i.

1792
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 1: Really am check that is not far fetched.

1793
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 12: AT all i know we're only a few games into the,

1794
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 12: baseball Season but i'm basing my optimism About the reds

1795
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 12: in large part just comparing their batting order to the

1796
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 12: two teams they face. So, far now Maybe The red

1797
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 12: Sox and pirates don't turn.

1798
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: Out to be.

1799
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 12: VERY good i Don't think pittsburgh, will BE but i

1800
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 12: think most People expect boston to be. Reasonably good one.

1801
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 12: Through Nine, the reds, to me at least have a significantly,

1802
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 12: better lineup so. That's encouraging we already know that they've

1803
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 12: got good. Starting pitching it's been challenged by injuries in

1804
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 12: the early portion of This but nicolodolo will be, back

1805
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 12: Soon hopefully hunter agreenably back After The all, star break

1806
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 12: and they can hold the fork in the meantime with

1807
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 12: the guys that.

1808
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,759
Speaker 1: They have i'm not putting too much Stock Into katie

1809
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: blackburn not Talking in phoenix at the, you KNOW the.

1810
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 1: NFL meetings i want the team. To do all the

1811
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 1: talking on the field. IS fall i like the free

1812
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: agents that. They've signed they just have to keep Adding

1813
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: here dan to the defense and the, you know in the.

1814
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: Offensive line as Far as, i'm concerned mostly.

1815
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 12: The, Defense yes i'd like to have a backup swing

1816
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 12: tackle who is an Upgrade From. Cody ford at some

1817
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 12: point they're going to have to have their next center

1818
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 12: in Place Because ted carriss can't. Play forever but the

1819
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 12: starting five they have on the offensive line, are good not.

1820
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 1: JUST okay i think that's a.

1821
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 12: Good group they certainly played well over the last twelve

1822
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 12: games of. THE season I think pff ranked them sixth

1823
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 12: IN the nfl and pass blocking over the last twelve

1824
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 12: games of. The year but the defense still needs reinforcements

1825
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 12: To the the first two guys that they signed were

1826
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 12: the two GUYS that i wanted them to sign, the

1827
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 12: MOST so i was really encouraged. ABOUT that i think

1828
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 12: everybody would like to see a linebacker added to. The

1829
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 12: mix there are still some guys. OUT there i don't

1830
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 12: know how they Feel About, Bobby Wagner, matt mulana or

1831
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 12: some of the guys that are. Still available but whether

1832
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 12: it's through the draft or still in, FREE agency i

1833
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 12: do think that that particular position group could use another.

1834
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:32,759
Speaker 1: Good Body jared calhoun is the Brand new University of cincinnati.

1835
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: BASKETBALL coach i told a caller earlier When the bearcats

1836
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: Lost to loyola in nineteen, SIXTY three, I cried i haven't.

1837
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,799
Speaker 1: Stopped Crying Can jared calhoun bring this? Club?

1838
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 12: Back yeah i'm really High On jared CALHOUN and i

1839
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 12: got to know him fairly well the one year that

1840
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 12: he Was On bob huggins's staff as a. Student Assistant

1841
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 12: chuck mayshack was still alive at that point and was my,

1842
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 12: color analyst and He and jared had a lot In

1843
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 12: and chuck always took a lot of interest in young

1844
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 12: coaches that were doing it the, right, way grinding learning from,

1845
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 12: the veterans willing to do anything almost without, being Asked

1846
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 12: and jared was one of. Those guys he reminds Me

1847
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 12: Of mick cronin in a lot. Of ways they are

1848
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 12: completely different in terms of. Their personality they are completely

1849
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 12: different in their style, Of coaching jared is much more an.

1850
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 12: Offensive coach mick is obviously much more of a. Defensive

1851
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 12: coach but in terms of how they got to where

1852
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 12: they've been able to go in, THEIR career i think they're.

1853
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 1: VERY similar i remember a Very Young.

1854
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 12: Mick cronin, you know making a name for himself At five,

1855
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 12: star camp trying to be able to show Somebody Like

1856
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 12: bob huggins that he was going to be a great.

1857
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 12: Recruiter Someday jared calhoun was like that. As well when

1858
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 12: he was a. Student assistant he was incredibly tapped in

1859
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 12: To the ohio. Recruiting scene now things, have changed that's

1860
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 12: probably not as important as it. Once was now you

1861
01:46:56,439 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 12: get that done with dollars. And cents but whatever the

1862
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 12: conditions are in, College Basketball jared calhoun will adapt, and

1863
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 12: THRIVE and i Think the cincinnati basketball program is really

1864
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 12: going to take off under.

1865
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: His Leadership The final four is this weekend just an,

1866
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: incredible tournament. No doubt what have we learned About The

1867
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: big twelve in this journey To The? Final Four, DAN.

1868
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 12: Well I think arizona is probably the betting favorite to win.

1869
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 12: It all It's either Michigan or arizona at this. POINT

1870
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 12: right i haven't looked at the latest line, on that

1871
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 12: but certainly it's one or. The other arizona was the

1872
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 12: BEST team i saw in person. This year So if

1873
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 12: arizona Wins The, national championship that tells you a lot

1874
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 12: About The. Big twelve it tells you that their best

1875
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 12: team is the best team in, the country and in

1876
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 12: recent years there's always been at Least One big twelve

1877
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 12: team that's been right in until. The finish houston could

1878
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 12: have easily Won the national championship last Year If emmanuel

1879
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 12: sharp didn't jump up and come down to the ball

1880
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 12: shooting it with ten seconds. To GO so I think

1881
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 12: arizona's going to, win it and that says a lot

1882
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 12: About The.

1883
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: Big twelve were you able to see the final ten

1884
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: Seconds of Duke And? Yukon.

1885
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 12: Absolutely yeah, OH oh i didn't see. IT live i

1886
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 12: certainly have seen the replay a million times, by NOW

1887
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 12: but i was watching.

1888
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 1: It, Live yes i'm sure we all.

1889
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 10: Were.

1890
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 12: SHOCKED yeah i feel Badly for boozer for throwing the

1891
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 12: pass that got deflected and stolen and ultimately led to

1892
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 12: the game. Winning shot all he had to do was

1893
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,839
Speaker 12: stand there and hold on to. The ball but easy

1894
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 12: for me, to say easy for you. To say when

1895
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 12: somebody's out there and the pressure of, the moment, you

1896
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 12: know their instincts, take over and unfortunately, for him his

1897
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 12: instinct was the wrong one and it Helped cost duke.

1898
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 1: That, game dan always appreciate. Your time thank you, so

1899
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 1: much and all the best. Going forward, thank you they're.

1900
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: My pleasure thanks for having. Me on keep up the.

1901
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 1: Good work thank you, so much The Great, dan HORDE

1902
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: and i want to thank all our, Guests Today, Mike,

1903
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 1: Petralia Trags, Tom Nichols, Tom Brenneman, Steve Grody, dan horde

1904
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 1: and all the awesome listeners and the callers on when

1905
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Speaker 1: we opened up the phone lines at. Four thirty you've

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