1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Because I got a few more problems with the Steelers. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: They are not coming up, not like a flower, not 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: like anything else. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: In fact, they're going down like Grandpa. As you know what. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Number one, I've overestimated how well Aaron Rodgers is playing. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Our buddy Scarps tweeted this out. Rogers ranks third interception percentage. 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: That's the bad third, not the good third. He's twenty 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: second in completed air yards eleventh and passer rating in 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: twelfth in completion percentage. 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Those are man. He's not had a three hundred yard. 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: Game yet, and he was beyond awful at Los Angeles. 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: So maybe on the year, I'd gradem a C plus, 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: which would still make him the Steelers team MVP. And 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: I've heard further that Rogers is bothered a lot by 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: that story we're in the New York Post that suggests 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: his wife might not exist, that Steelers wives and girlfriends 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: called her a fandom that they had not seen. And 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: as I said yesterday, he's not upset about the story 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: so much as he is that Steelers wives and girlfriends 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: appear to have cooperated and anonymously two. My other problem, well, 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: I got a lot of problems, and you people are 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna hear about them. Tom Win talked today about Jalen 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Warren not playing on third down and not getting more 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: touches than he is, and Tomlin said to Steelers have 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: to convert more on third down to get Warren out 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: there again for first and second and get him more touches. 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: And okay, they do, But why can't Warren play on 28 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: third down? 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: Ever? 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Tomlin friggin ran Nagy till the wheels fell off, and 31 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Bell and Parker, etc. And tom On has eckles covering kicks, 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: covering punts and then goes out there, plays defensive back 33 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: and gets torched by McConkey at LA. So why can't 34 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Warren ever play on third dount? And I'll tell you 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: why because Tomin likes to stick with his formula, whether 36 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: it works or not, because to adjust the formula is 37 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to admit he's wrong. Now, the safety thing with Ramsey 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: and Dugger, which looks like it's going to continue, that 39 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: was made necessary by injury, but in terms of something 40 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: not working, and Tomlin then acknowledging that and making a change, 41 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: that's him admitting he's wrong, which he just does not do. 42 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: And then Matt Williamson our football guru with a bunch 43 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: of kill shots on Twitter. The Steelers are second last 44 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: in the league in time of possession at twenty seven minutes. 45 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: The Bengals are second last, rather by just a few seconds. 46 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Steelers at twenty seven, Bengals at like twenty six minutes 47 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: and fifty seconds, so Sunday's game might be. 48 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: Just fifty four minutes. 49 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: The Steelers average three point eight yards per rushing attempt. 50 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: That's the third worst in the league. 51 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: The Steelers are worst in the league at explosive run 52 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: percentage at just two point five percent. That's all for 53 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Scarps noted that the Steelers haven't total 54 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: twenty more first downs. 55 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: In the last ten games. 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: They've gone ten games without getting twenty or more first downs. 57 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: It's not a good football team, and it's old, so 58 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: it won't get better. 59 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: It's not gonna rally. 60 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Cabali said that the Steelers won't fire Mike Tomlin before 61 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: the draft because it would take away from the events. Okay, 62 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna fire tom no matter what. Kabali 63 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: knows that. But I do think they're putting a lot 64 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: of eggs in that draft basket. By way, get renovations 65 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: paid by the city in County for Acrosure Stadium. 66 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: And Art's all about money. Art's not like Dan or well, 67 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 68 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: The chief was all about because he was kind of 69 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: a buffoon with a cigar who founded the team and 70 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: made the playoffs once in almost fifty years till he 71 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: handed almost forty years until he handed the team over 72 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: to his kids. But Art cares about money. Dan cared 73 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: about money, but also winning. Art has a lot of 74 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: investment in this draft so he can get a payout 75 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: from it at the end. 76 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: And I get it. 77 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: But when you hear they didn't trade picks because they 78 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: want that moment at the podium and now they won't 79 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: fire the coach because they don't want to take away 80 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: from the draft. 81 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: Is the draft more important than winning football games? 82 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you drafted better, you'd be 83 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: winning more football games. And like I said, the Steelers 84 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: just won fire tom whever Cabaldi said that would not 85 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: hold keeping Tomlin, that they could get rid of him 86 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: even this year if the season went to hell like 87 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: they lost out went five and twelve. But to me, 88 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: the last decade has been hell for this team and 89 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: this time and our expectations. This the mushy middle. No 90 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: winning a playoff game, no hope with making a playoff 91 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: run for Pittsburgh for the Steelers, for Pittsburgh football fans, 92 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: that's hell. And I don't need to hear how they'd 93 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: be grateful in Cleveland for what the Steelers are doing 94 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: if the Browns did it because a f Cleveland. But 95 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: the Brons beat the Steelers in a playoff game in 96 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I bet they were grateful for that. 97 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, Dougar and Ramsey will stay at starting safeties. 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Tomlin says he likes the stability. Yeah, this team is 99 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: real stable. One Thornhill got cut, so his stay with 100 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: that great defense was not exactly historic. This is the 101 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Mark Madden Show. It's Veterans Day, so way to go veterans. 102 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: Bad m efforts. They allow America to be free, except 103 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: we're not. Well, I mean, we're freer than most, So 104 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 1: thank you. You can follow me on Twitter at Mark 105 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: Madden X. Let's bring on Tommy Radio. 106 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: Tom. Have Steeler fans accepted that. 107 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: This team isn't very good, that it's it's i mean, 108 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: a one and done team in the playoffs and that 109 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: is the absolute ceiling. 110 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if they've accepted it yet, but the 111 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: statistics pretty much all point to it, even when you 112 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: just play well. 113 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: I think it's to say the numbers don't lie and 114 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: they spilled disaster for you at sacrifice. 115 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Even when you boil those numbers down to like the 116 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: most basic right, just like total defense yards allowed, total 117 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: offense yards gained, they're in the bottom in both of 118 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: those categories. Points per game they're trending down. They were 119 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: at twenty five, but now they're around like twenty third. 120 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: They're getting towards the bottom. And you look at points 121 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: per game allowed as a defense, I mean they're in 122 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: the company of teams like the Raiders. I mean it's disgusting, honestly. 123 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: So everywhere you look, it's just pointing to them being 124 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: a not very good football team. 125 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: That Cincinnati game is going to be intriguing because the 126 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Cincinnati defense can't stop anybody, but the Steelers offense can 127 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: stop itself, and Cincinnati's offense could score points. Joe Burrow 128 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: said today that he expects the Bengals to be in 129 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: the division race till the end of the season, and 130 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: that's with him being not at least a couple more weeks, 131 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: you would think, maybe longer, and with Flacco at quarterback, 132 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: which tells me he thinks that Flacco and the Bengals 133 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: could beat the Steelers this Sunday at. 134 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Acrisure, Absolutely he does. How could he not when he 135 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: just winkitness I do too. He just witnessed it two 136 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: three weeks ago. 137 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: I picked the Steelers. But I bet this game has 138 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: its peaks and valleys. 139 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I know it was in Sinci the last matchup, 140 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: but still, he just saw Joe Flacco and the Bengals 141 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: beat the Steelers. And well, you said about the Steelers 142 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: offense stopping itself is so key in this game, cause 143 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: I don't think the Bengals are going to be able 144 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 3: to rally ultimately and get back in the playoff picture. 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: Because even if they beat the Steelers, their defense so bad, 146 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter which Joe's playing quarterback, They're going to 147 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: lose more games down the stretch. But in this game, 148 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: the Steelers offense just gets in its own way. Like 149 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: you said, if it keeps going three and out and 150 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: giving that Bengals offense more and more opportunities, be hard 151 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: to play keep up with them. 152 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: I rewatched that game from Sunday night. Rogers was tiptoeing. 153 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: He just bailed on a lot of plays. Do you 154 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: agree that I've overrated the way he's played this season? 155 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Would you grade him at a higher than a C plus? 156 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: And what about this New York Post story, Because Tom, 157 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm hearing the that's true that he's bothered and he 158 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: doesn't like the Steelers wives and girlfriends anonymously cooperated. 159 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: I get why he wouldn't like that too, don't you. 160 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: I understand that that's a little bit especially. 161 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: If the wives of players and girlfriends in sports have 162 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: never contributed in a positive fashion, and maybe never's too 163 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: strong a word. Maybe it's been negative ninety five percent 164 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: of the time. 165 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: Except for Peyton Manning's wife who took the rap on 166 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: that HGH delivery at his house back when he was 167 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: going to Denver. You diffuse the next A great wife, 168 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: great wife, great move, all about business there, but like 169 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: especially if okay, so it's true this new wife or 170 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: Ann Rogers has not been around the team, so he 171 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: obviously wants her to stay private. They want privacy, and 172 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: this is a total violation of that privacy. 173 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: That's his business that's their business. Do I think he 174 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: has a fake wife? 175 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: No? But I mean, and I feel uncomfortable talking about 176 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: it because because the New York Post shouldn't have written 177 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: about it, or at the very least, the Steelers' wags 178 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: should not have cooperated in the story. 179 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: Made it up, which I'm not putting past them. 180 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: But but but that the idea for that story came 181 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: from somewhere. 182 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: Back to what you're saying about, did you overrate him? 183 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: I don't think you did to this point, but I 184 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: think it's fair to worry about if things are gonna 185 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: start to go south moving forward as the season wears on, 186 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: he starts to fade because of his age and that 187 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: offensive line. If they get worse now all of a sudden, 188 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: if they start taking a turn in the wrong direction, 189 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: then you're gonna start seeing the same stuff that you 190 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: saw against the Chargers, the tiptoe and the uncomfortableness in 191 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 3: the pocket. I think C plus to this point is 192 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 3: a little harsh. I'd probably be in the B range, 193 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: but I think it's fair to worry that it's gonna 194 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: be more C plus moving forward. 195 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: He should Aaron should take the missus to McCartney tonight 196 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: they could sit with me. That should be your introduction 197 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. I think should enjoy it. 198 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: Nine the X one O five to nine, The X 199 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 4: has your shot at X Listen all day for your chance. 200 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: It's some extra cash on one O five to nine 201 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: the X. It's the Mark manon Free Gay Show. On 202 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 4: one O five nine, Das. 203 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: Opens half the line not the. 204 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Gimes way back when Sunny Willie by the below Man Gody, 205 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: Oh wait seven. 206 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: Reeling off stage? 207 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: No, no nothing. 208 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: Buns by Jimmy Bits. 209 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: That's not a relic from my Nimby's good Oh wait, 210 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: that not not. 211 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: So the ol Uga No wild lad swelling got. 212 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: By the loan of a Hollywood Brown. 213 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: We'll be there, I'll be there. McCartney at PPG tonight. 214 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: That's rock show which invokes led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page as 215 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: you heard, and Paul won't be playing it tonight. I 216 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: don't think so, so I had to hear it now. 217 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: I got a tweet. What are you doing playing music 218 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: during a sports show? No, it's a Mark Madden show. 219 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: And if you don't think Paul McCartney in town tonight 220 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: is more significant than your bummy football team on the 221 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: vergic collapse. I'm afraid I've built some bad news. Everybody 222 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: does lists all the time in my profession. 223 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: So here's a list for you. 224 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Overrated Steelers And why Number five is Will Howard because 225 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: the number three quarterback always is. Number four is Darnell Washington. 226 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: The fans love him because he's not Washington, but he's 227 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: just a big lug. He's man, just some oath. 228 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: Number three is Pat Friarmouth because you can yell mooth. 229 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: That's why you like him. 230 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: But he's a marginal weapon, really can't block and isn't 231 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: worth the contract they gave him. Number two is Zach Frasier. 232 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: He's a decent center, no better. He's not Pompsi, not Webby, 233 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: not dirt. Really, he's a big fat hillbilly. But you 234 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: love him because we believe every Steelers center is a 235 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: hall of Famer. And number one is TJ. 236 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: Watt. You like him because you all have his jersey. 237 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: He used to be great. 238 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: He's a Hall of famer, but now he's making forty 239 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: one mil and he's a xerox of a xerox of 240 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: a xerox. Pretty soon you won't be able to see 241 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: him at all. I'm not trying to insult. I'm not 242 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: trying to hate. I'm just trying to make you get it. Tom, 243 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: you heard the list. 244 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: What do you think? Who are your most overrated Steelers? 245 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: Do any conflict with my list? 246 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: I think it's a masterfully done list. He named like 247 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: four bumps and then TJ Watt, So I mean, that's 248 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: just beautiful. 249 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Zach Fraser's not a bums gots because you're a pit die, 250 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: right and he's a mountaineer. But as I always say, 251 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: and people don't get this no matter how many times 252 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: I say it, Like I'll run into people at my 253 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: viewing parties, how would you call so and so overrated? 254 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: And I say, well, you see, you think when I 255 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: say he's overrated, that means he stinks. Zach Fraser's very good. 256 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: He's never gonna make all Pro. He's just a very good, 257 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: above average center. That's it, and history will bear that out. 258 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: Is Peyton Wilson getting overrated at all? Is it too 259 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: early to say that? Is he maybe properly rated? He 260 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: could be pretty good action I think. 261 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: He overrates himself himself the best cover quarterback in football 262 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: in the world. 263 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: Excuse me, but you see he's still a young guy. Yeah, 264 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: they're still promising that. 265 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna come on. So, you know, I 266 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't yet call him overrated. I'm not sure how many 267 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: people rate him, is my point. 268 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: I'm worried that. And we talked about this a little 269 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: bit yesterday. 270 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: But DK Metcalf is overrated, and we overrated him when 271 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: the Steelers made that trade, and the Steelers themselves overrated 272 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: him by handing him out that contract that pays him 273 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: thirty million dollars a year, because I know he's getting 274 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: all the coverage, and Matt Williamson said that yesterday. 275 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: They're rolling on over to him number one. What being 276 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: chip don't matter what, Dk, you know, being double teamed. 277 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: He's a number one receiver. You make the money. You're 278 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: a number one receiver, Go make the catching. 279 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Matt Williams had sounds something that I, you know, kind 280 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: of googled, and a lot of people agree with Matt. 281 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they? He knows everything that DK Metcalf loves 282 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: a lot to be desired on combat. 283 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: Catches, which is so strange, right because his build would 284 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: let you think that he would just be going up 285 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: on jump balls like crazy, like that would be his mo. 286 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: Just throw it up and he'll outmuscle people. 287 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: They have a phrase for that. Tom looks like Tarzan, 288 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: plays like Jane. That's more popular in hockey. But you 289 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of muscle guys who just don't play 290 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: like they have the muscle. And he drops way too 291 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: many passes and that is Does he always do that? 292 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that has just been a thing 293 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: with Steelers receivers in general in the past couple of years. 294 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: So you would put him on the list, I would 295 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: add him. I think dkmack take off. I might take 296 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: off Darnell Washington. He is overrated in the fans eyes, 297 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: but I do think he is a decent weapon to 298 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: be used in an offense, just not a focal point 299 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: type of weapon. And that's where the Steelers kind of trues. 300 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: He's not really a focal part. 301 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: He only had the one cash for fifteen yards he 302 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: was before last game. He amazes me, and I will 303 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: continue to talk about. I think Arthur Smith's an idiot, Okay, no, 304 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: I do. I mean he came in and he was 305 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: supposed to get these these three good tight ends and 306 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: have the offense revolver around him. And and really the 307 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: only inventive thing he's done is the is the big package, 308 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: which they probably don't do enough, especially now. Did see 309 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: him all lose out and they had to move Spencer 310 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: Ranas from the guard. But see them all who practice, 311 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: So maybe he's back yet. 312 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: And how inventive is that? Really? 313 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: You throw out a tackle eligible and have a big 314 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: tight end out there. In the nineteen thirty something like 315 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: that was a big deal. Oh, it would blow people's minds. 316 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: But right now, I mean people are looking at that 317 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: going like, really, we're going back in time. 318 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: Huh. 319 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: Interesting, that's your wrinkle as an offense. It's just I 320 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 3: get that it is something that gives some opposing defense's pause, 321 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: and it's like, whoa, we got to deal with a 322 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: big package sometimes this week. 323 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: But like after a couple of times seeing it on tape, 324 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: no one's scared. Is scared of it? Like who cares 325 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: about you know, just extra meat in the run game. 326 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: I got a tweet earlier on I disparaged Art Rooney, 327 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the first, the cigar guy, the chief. Yes, you know, 328 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: why wouldn't I? He found the team in nineteen thirty three. 329 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: He turned the team's football operations over to his kids, 330 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: Art Junior, not Art the second, but our junior. And 331 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: by the way, better not say that our junior and Dan. 332 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: And you know, then the team became a juggerd on over. 333 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: Full credit to those two and to Bill Nonne, the 334 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: Steeler Scott back then, who who established a pipeline to 335 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: players at black colleges. Nobody knew about it in that 336 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: era because he was the sports editor of the Pittsburgh Curry. 337 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: That was his full time job, America's number one black newspaper. 338 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: But how can you pretend that this was a great 339 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: football guy when his team from nineteen thirty three until 340 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: the late sixties when he gave up the Reins, made 341 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 342 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: Once and lost. Yeah, he's kind of The Chief is 343 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: more like a mythological figure, you know what I mean, 344 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: Like he's hyped up into like the. 345 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: Romantic figure, like did you see and Collier wrote that 346 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: one man play about the Chief. 347 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: I wish I remember the actor's name. 348 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: Boy, he was good. I went to see it, and 349 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, he is a romantic figure. But I mean 350 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: he didn't know what he was doing. 351 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: Right, but he is romanticized. He's almost like Paul Bunyan 352 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: in a way for Steelers Nation, right, like a folklore guy. 353 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: Had no big blue looks. But yeah, I guess similar. 354 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: But you know, see that that's the thing. 355 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: And you know what, I gotta be honest, if I 356 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: had it to go back and reach you my verbies 357 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: for what I said, I probably would tone it down 358 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: a little bit. 359 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: But you know what it comes from is I hate 360 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: the way this team is mythologized. 361 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: The good stuff, like the four super Bowls in the seventies, 362 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: the Ben era when he was great, that, let's mythologize, 363 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Troy Pull the mate well you know the names mean 364 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: Joe Green, that let's mythologize. But the bummy stuff is 365 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: the bummy stuff. And part of the reason the bummy 366 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: stuff goes on forever is because we don't ever learn 367 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: from the bummy stuff. Heck, y'all out there, you don't 368 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: even want to say it's bummy. You don't even want 369 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: to admit this teammate very good. 370 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: Oh when the team it hasn't been very good, hasn't 371 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: won a playoff game for as long as they have, 372 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: and you still like crank up the mythology of the 373 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: Steelers and that logo. 374 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: It just gets so sickening to hear over and over again, 375 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: and it just doesn't hit like it used to. And 376 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: it's honestly embarrassing. 377 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: Like other fan bases, it's embarrassing to them to hear 378 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: like the Steelers talk about that, like if you're Steelers 379 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: fan on Twitter, like pounding your chest right now about 380 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: all six Super Bowls. This is the greatest franchise ever. 381 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: It's embarrassing right now to be talking like that because 382 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: you're just nine and eight. Everybody knows it. 383 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: That's just what you do. 384 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: And by the way, you know I said earlier that 385 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: that saying somebody's overrated and saying they stinker two different things. Yes, well, 386 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: saying I wish I'd chosen my words differently and saying 387 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I regret it or also two different things. 388 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. 389 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: The Zach Fraser one, I'll get some stick for. I mean, 390 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: he's okay, he doesn't suck. 391 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: No, I don't think he's You. 392 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Know, certain players fit a certain caricature that Steeler fans like, 393 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: in this case, the big the big Hillbilly, you know, 394 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: Darnel Washington's Mount Washington. He yelled mouth, he yelled heath. 395 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Everybody has a watch jersey and you think you relate 396 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: to these guys and you don't. You don't know them, 397 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: you'd hate most of them. And I think also so 398 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: I've never met Zack Fraser or dealt with him. He 399 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: for remotely the bar I su I've never met any 400 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: of these guys and don't want to The bar. 401 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: At center from Zach that Zach Fraser inherited after Marquise 402 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: Pouncy retired One's good guy was a train wreck, you 403 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like with the Kendrick, I mean, 404 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: we know how Ben feels about it, and that I 405 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: think is playing into it too. Like Fraser's just a 406 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 3: competent center. So it's like, oh, that's refreshing to see, 407 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: and then we overrate him a little bit more like 408 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: he's not as good as Webby Dirt and pounds. Okay, 409 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: he's not even as good as Jeff Hard No, you 410 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: know he's okay, he's all right right. 411 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: Nobody talking about him for all pro No, and they shouldn't. 412 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: I don't think that he's gonna Maybe people think that 413 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: he could trend to be that at his ceiling, at 414 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: the NFL level, I don't know if I get that 415 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: from him. I think he'd be a very good center 416 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: at the NFL. He can't be your best lineman though, 417 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: he can't be the anchor like Pounce he was for 418 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: so many years. 419 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: And I think center as a position is overrated by 420 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: and by UH and by Steeler fans. I think the 421 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: anchor needs to be your left tackle period, without question. 422 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Your second best has to be your right tackle. I 423 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: completely agree. That's why I think the Chargers are such 424 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: a great team build. It sucks that their tackles are out. 425 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 3: Could you imagine where they'd be if those two were 426 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: healthy Slater and Al They's seven and three without them, 427 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: and they just kicked the Steelers ass without them. 428 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: Like we talked about this yesterday. Did did of the 429 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: playoff teams right now? Who could the Steelers beat in 430 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: the playoff? 431 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 432 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: I think we landed on Jacksonville because they're technically a 433 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: playoff You said Jacksonville, But Denver was the one that 434 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: will make the playoffs that we kind of circled like 435 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: it would be a disgusting game that would be terrible 436 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: to watch. 437 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: But maybe the Steelers win thirteen to ten. Yeah, because 438 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: I don't think they could be Jacksonville. No, No, I 439 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: Carl Lawrence is so bad. 440 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they got the guy the Steelers needed to, 441 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 3: Jacobe Meyer, and he goes off in that game right, 442 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: ten catches two hundred yards almost. 443 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: It would be more glorious than D Day one oh 444 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: five nine The X. 445 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: It's Goodbody Show Weekday mornings and six Sweet Can't It? 446 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: On one O five nine D Dad's Hold Double Shifts 447 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: at the Pittsburgh Mills. 448 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 4: It's the Mark Madden Pregame Show with Mark Madden and 449 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: Tom offer Mean on one O five nine The X. 450 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: Here's some breaking hockey news. The Penguins are practicing shootouts 451 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: after getting boat raced in the first three such occasions 452 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: as year to do bat shooting and even worse, goaltending 453 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: Tom the latest mission that the media is on the 454 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: national medium, in particular Rich Eisen and Mike Greenberg. We're 455 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna play an Eisen sondbite later. They're both trying to 456 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: wish Mike. Tom went to the vacant New York Giants job, 457 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: which wouldn't happen this year. It won't happen at all 458 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: because the Steelers won't let him go. But that ball 459 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: got fired by the Giants, and both Eisen and Greenberg 460 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: said that Tom would be a perfect fit for the 461 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: New York Giants. I don't think tom was going to 462 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: keep coaching after he leaves the Steelers. 463 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: Whenever that is. 464 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: I think that he'll know that he'd go someplace else 465 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: and suck, and won't want to do further damage his 466 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: reputation after however long it turns out to be of 467 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: ineffective coaching to end his days in Pittsburgh, be at 468 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, ten, fifteen, twenty years, however long he chooses 469 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: to stick around, and I think if he went to 470 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: New York Giants, he would just be exposed even further 471 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: than he is now. I think when he took that 472 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: job from Cower, with Cowers players, culture and leaders, it 473 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: was a perfect situation with the model franchise. The team's 474 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: got worse, the franchise got worse, but people just remember 475 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: what he did at the beginning and it's still the 476 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: Stealers and that logo. I think he'd go to the 477 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: Giants and feel miserably. 478 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: I mean, that's been the classic take when it comes 479 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 3: to Mike Tomlin. And if the Steelers were to ever 480 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: part ways with him as all, he'd get a job 481 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: in ten seconds ten seconds on the open market and 482 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: someone would snatch them up. But do they ever expand 483 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: on that, take mark and say how great the team 484 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: would be when Mike Tomlin got there. 485 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: Maybe they do. 486 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: How would he do it that job right? 487 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: Maybe they do, And I just don't listen at that 488 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: point because I'm tuning them out after they say how 489 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: great Mike Tomalin would be to get snatched up by 490 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: this team and that team in this team. But there's 491 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: no guarantee of success if he goes somewhere else at all, 492 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 3: and I think that would harm him as far as 493 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: that kind of myth is concerned. And I think he 494 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: would be aware of that and wonder, well, if I 495 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: fail there, then all of a sudden, does the narrative 496 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: turn on me a little bit? Does national media start 497 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: to recognize? 498 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: I think if he went now, he would still have 499 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: the eupris to think he could do good. But by 500 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the time he leaves here, I think everybody gonna know 501 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: and ignore, But he'll know and maybe won't be able 502 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: to ignore that he just ain't got it no more 503 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: if he ever had it in the first place. And 504 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: this is why you know, tom if he's here five 505 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: more years, they won't win a playoff game. 506 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: In that time. 507 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: I love Green, you don't get me wrong. But the 508 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 3: people on National TV, they just see Tomlin Giants. Okay, 509 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: put that together. That sounds great, right. Why would the 510 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: Giants hand over Jackson Dart They're young promising quarterback to 511 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: a defensive guy like Mike Tomlin, who has failed trying 512 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: to identify young promising quarterbacks here in. 513 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: Pittsay they might, It depends what they buy in the 514 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: Tomlin myth. 515 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, like Colin, Colin Coward has for a long 516 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: time had the right perspective on Tomlin. He's a defensive 517 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: coach in an offensive era. Coward doesn't have to be 518 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: any more insulting than that. And that's not even insulting, 519 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: it's not denigrating, but it shows that he's he's in 520 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: the improv upper time for how he coaches football. 521 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: I think you can still be a defensive coach and 522 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 3: get a coaching job. Mike Rabel is doing very good 523 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 3: right now. McDonald out in Seattle, Josh. 524 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: Mcdada as the coordinator in New England, and you know 525 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: he turns. 526 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: It all over to exactly That's where I was going 527 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: with that. 528 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: But then again, I don't think Tomlin pokes his finger 529 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: into the offensive pie. 530 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: But I think he hires a guy who's. 531 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: Gonna run the offense he prefers, which is this Neanderthal 532 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: prehistoric I don't know what the freak you call it, 533 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: mess that Arthur Smith is administrative exactly. 534 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: If you're going to be a defensive coach, you have 535 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: to hire a forward thinking offensive mind and really see 536 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 3: a lot of the control of the offense over to him. 537 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: And you're right, Arthur Smith just fits into the mold 538 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: of what Mike Tomlin wants. He's not what a team 539 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: should strive to have as their offensive coordinator in the 540 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: current era of NFL football. So if he goes to 541 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: New York, which is fool as he's not going to 542 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: He's just gonna bring another bummy offensive coordinator. It's just 543 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: it would be a terrible fit. People say it's a 544 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: great fit. It'd be a terrible fit. 545 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: The pregame show brought to was by the purchase little 546 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: injury expert Senderovich, Schendrovic and Fisherman. They got your back, 547 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: not your wallet. I want to expand on my Aaron 548 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Rodgers thoughts from earlier. I said I've overrated the play 549 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: the way he's played this year. The caliber, the level 550 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: of the quality. I rate him a C plus on 551 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: the season. 552 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Not bad. He'd still be their team MVP. 553 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: The Steelers and Rodgers had a lot of bad moments 554 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: in LA, and one of the worst was the Steelers 555 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: had fourth and sixth at LA's ten in the fourth 556 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: quarter down fifteen to three, and Rogers threw this fade 557 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: to the corner of the end zone right into double 558 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: coverage in Metcalf you know, not great at combat catches. 559 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: Like Matt Williamson said yesterday, I've got no idea what 560 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Rogers thought he saw there. You know, whether he checked 561 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: into that thrower Oppenheimer called it. I don't know, but 562 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: watching that game again, Tom Rogers was like out of it, 563 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of like like disengage goofy from the get go. 564 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I don't know if the Chargers defense deserves 565 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: a lot of credit. They deserve some credit obviously if 566 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: it's more that he was just off, but his superpower 567 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: was not you know coming through in that game mark 568 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: which is the pre snap stuff. You just reference that 569 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: play where he just goes double team to DK where 570 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: he wasn't open. There was another play it just looked 571 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: like a disaster towards the goal line because he wanted 572 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: to hit a quick pass on a slant Bud Dupree, 573 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: former Steeler, just dropped back into coverage. He wasn't expecting it. 574 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: Rogers like kind of double clutched and just panicked and 575 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: threw the ball in the dirt like they were changing 576 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: stuff up on him. And usually he's ten steps ahead 577 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: of every defense he plays. That wasn't the case. 578 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: See. I hate to give tabloid gossipy stuff an the oxygen, 579 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: but when I heard about that New York Post story, 580 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: Rogers played like I would expect him to react to it, 581 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: like it was on his mind. He couldn't shake it. 582 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: He was rattled because, like I said, rattle from the 583 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: get go. 584 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: And he's out in la which is where the wife 585 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: probably lives. She ain't coming to Pittsburgh. I mean, that's 586 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: apparently according to this New York Post story that's true. 587 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: So she goes out there this story breaks. He's probably 588 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: the first time he could see her in a while. 589 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: It'd be emotional. 590 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: There's no record of her at game in lay. 591 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: True, but I'm saying maybe he saw her, you know 592 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: what I mean, Saturday at the hotel I don't know, 593 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: and she. 594 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: Was mad, wouldn't you be. I wouldn't look at that 595 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: stuff if I had that much money. 596 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: I would if you married into that much money, Yeah 597 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, But if she indeed exists, I shouldn't say that. 598 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. But but like that fade, I mean it 599 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: was a hopeless bro. It was a hopeless brow. 600 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 1: I mean the since he game on Sunday suddenly has 601 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: significance beyond even having to win, having to stay ahead 602 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: of Baltimore because Rogers got a bounce back, He's got it. 603 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's already lost to Cincinnati once. 604 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: No, without question, they have to win this game. They 605 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: lose this game, I think they won't make the playoffs. 606 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: They'll get caught by the Ravens, and then you gotta 607 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: worry about the Bengals too. They lose, you think they 608 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: won't make the play will not make the playoffs. 609 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. 610 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: They'll get caught by the Bengals probably, but the Ravens 611 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: will still win the division. And if you, on the 612 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: other hand, beat the Bengals, that's kind of the kill 613 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: shot for them, right. It doesn't matter Burrow coming back 614 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: or whatever. A one loss against the Steelers will probably 615 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: bury them. They won't be able to come back from that. 616 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: Well, we got that sound bite from Burrow. He thinks 617 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: the Bengals can stay in it till the end if 618 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: he beats the Steelers. 619 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: And no, he didn't say that, but I think he's 620 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: trying to g up the team to beat the Steelers, 621 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: to kind of make it into a self fulfilling prophecy 622 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: them staying in the race. 623 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: And then, to quote Mike Florio from a week back, 624 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: then Daddy comes home, right and Joe Burrow comes back. 625 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, say the Bengals beat the 626 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: Steelers and thus sweep the season series. 627 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: Well, the Bengals finished out of the Steelers. I'm tempted 628 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: to say, yes they will. 629 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: What if, after all this being all in for playoff win, 630 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers finished third in the AFC North. 631 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean, if this hypothetical plays out and they lose 632 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: to Joe Flacco again on Sunday, they're gonna be flat going. 633 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: And how will they not be flat going into Chicago? 634 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: You'd have to assume that that would happen, and the 635 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: Bears are six and three. Bears all of a sudden, 636 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: Packers losing last night, Bears are saying we could win 637 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: the NFC North right now, like they're feeling themselves. They 638 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: could get tricky steel. 639 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: It's more likely that the Steelers do beat Cincinnati, and 640 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 1: everybody jumps back on the train of thought that they 641 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: can beat anybody any given day. This team's dangerous to 642 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: national media will buy into it because they changed like 643 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: the wind every single week depending on how the Steelers do. 644 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: And and that, I mean, that's just how it works. Yeah, 645 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe that's the way guys like you and 646 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: me should want it to work. But it just it 647 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: just I mean, I know this team's not no good 648 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: and I also know that. And people refer to them 649 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: beating Indy and UH and New England, right yep, But 650 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers didn't beat beat New England and Indy New 651 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: England and Indy lost to the Steelers. 652 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: And there's a difference, and deep, deep down, come on, 653 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: we know Colts and Patriots aren't at the top of 654 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: everybody's list when it comes to AFC contenders. Colts maybe 655 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: are trending in that direction, but Bill's Chiefs and Ravens, 656 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: to me at least, are still the three big threats 657 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: in the conference. 658 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: Way down, inside Woman, Woman, Woman, You, I can't do it. 659 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 5: One oh five nine, Friday afternoon, The Pen's face off 660 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 5: against the Predators. Game time is two. Our coverage starts 661 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: at one. Listen to every game and the best Penn's 662 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: coverage on your home in the Pittsburgh Penguins one O 663 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 5: five to nine VX. 664 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: From the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center. This report is 665 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: sponsored by Macy's Backstage Gradual Clearing. Today. 666 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Still can't rule out some flurries, though high in thirty 667 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: seven Cloudy's Guys tonight, dropping down to thirty two. 668 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: Cloudey been a bit warmer tonight. It's the Mark manon 669 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: Pregame Show on one oh five nine. 670 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: DX Pregame Show brought to us by Sendrorovid, Sendrovitch and Fishman. 671 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: The others charged forty percent. They charged just twenty five, Tom, 672 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: what do we got for the trifecta? 673 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: For today's trifecta, Mark, I have spontaneous singing moments in movies, 674 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: which you do quite often on this show. 675 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: Moments. Yes, they're always very well done too. 676 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 677 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: Here are three of my favorites. Though I know you 678 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: don't like this movie very much. 679 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: But in Billy Madison, when he breaks out in song 680 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: after Veronica beats the crap out of him, Veronica, I 681 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: thank you. 682 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Billy Madison does that in a lot of movies, like 683 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: Hay he sang over the interclm to the rather ugly. 684 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: And over again. Yeah, that's right. 685 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 686 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: In The Replacements number two, I Will Survive in the 687 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: jail sound now, that's like a spontaneous sing and dance 688 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: routine that breaks out, spurred on by Clifford Franklin. 689 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: Of course, which they did a little too well, the 690 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: dance routine, the whole thing. 691 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: I just like how the deaf guy doesn't notice Gene 692 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: Hackman there and he's just doing it by himself when 693 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: everybody sees him. 694 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: The deaf Guy was a somewhat compelling character absolutely for being, 695 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, devoid of hearing and speech. 696 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: Yes, and then Martell acting like a total ass and 697 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: degrading him in front of everybody at the end of year. 698 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: That was a big turning point. I think that's what 699 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: ultimately brought flat Falco back. Actually, one of the one 700 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: of the great lines is oh he's Falco. He can 701 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: hear what I'm saying. 702 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 2: I can, yeah, right. 703 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: Number one for me is the Bohemian rhapsody scene in 704 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: Wayne's World when they're in the car very early in 705 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 3: the movie too, that they break out in the song. 706 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: There but such a great routine, tremendous. 707 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: The trifecta brought to us by Danny's Peach and Hogies 708 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. Great Hogies, great pizza, 709 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's original since nineteen sixty. 710 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: That's Danny's on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. 711 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: I have a ton of honorable mentions too, if you 712 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: want to just go through those real quick. Have you 713 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: ever seen the movie Hot Tub Time Machine when Craig 714 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: Robinson breaks out? 715 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: Never seen it? 716 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: Okay, moving on Afternoon Delight in Anchorman. That's such a 717 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 3: great spontaneous and. 718 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: They nail it too. 719 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you wish that it was spontaneous. You knew it 720 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: was actually, but I'm sure that required several takes. 721 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: In the Will Farrell universe, the Sweet Child of Mine 722 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 3: in the car with Derek and step brothers. That's really 723 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: and the life goes in flat, so flat, so many 724 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: music lessons and this is what I'm getting. 725 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: I'll save it with the guitar solo that might be 726 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: That might be number one. We talked about so far. 727 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the classic and back to future. Johnny be good 728 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: when he goes upon the stage. He might not be 729 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: ready for that, but your kids are gonna love it. 730 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: Was that spontaneous though. I guess you're right. It's kind 731 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: of you know me. 732 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: But for him to be up there and playing it, 733 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: I guess think. Adam Scott, by the way, is brilliant 734 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: in two roles. Well, everybody knows him in Step Brothers. 735 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: He was a good heel. You don't expect him as 736 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 1: a heel. But uh, oh god, what was the movie 737 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Black Mass where Johnny Depp? Johnny Depp played uh, the 738 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: crime boss from Boston and Adam Scott was a really 739 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: cynical FBI agent who like was going after another FBI 740 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: agent who was kind of on the take, but not really. 741 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: He was just, oh, go, what was the guy's name? 742 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: That the mobster, Frank Frank Costello. No, that was that's 743 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: the Departed, that's Jack Nicholson. But Jack Nicholson's character in 744 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: the Department was based on who I'm talking about, Whitey Bulger. 745 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: Whitey Bulger, that's right. 746 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 5: Uh. 747 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: And then the last one that I had was the 748 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 2: mockingbird in Dumb and Dumber mock. 749 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 750 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, that's really good. Your honorable mentions might might 751 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: be better, might might be better than the actual. It's 752 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: such a good category. It was tough to arrow down 753 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: to the trifecta. Uh. You know, we talked about this once, 754 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: but I thought Dumb and Dumber two was just unforgivably. 755 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: Bad, ruined the first one a little bit in your 756 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: eyes or now, the first one's an all time classic comedy. 757 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: But Dumb and Dumber two was so bad that I 758 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: often think of it before Dumb and Dumber. When When 759 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: When when the franchise, albeit just two movies, uh, comes into. 760 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: Conversation, thus kind of ruining the aura of the first one. Yeah, 761 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: I'm glad Happy Gilmore Too didn't do that to the 762 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: first Happy Gilmore. He's a ridiculous movie, don't get me wrong, 763 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 3: But I think it paid a good respect to the 764 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: first one. 765 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it paid respect to the original franchise. I thought 766 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: the ending with with the with the spinning. 767 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: Break out of control. Yeah, but you know that was 768 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: loosely based on the ending for Caddyshack. 769 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: There were a lot of not only nods the Happy 770 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: Gilmore one, but to uh, to Caddyshack because Happy Gill, 771 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, Caddyshack ended when a force majeur 772 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: caused the putt unexpectedly drop. 773 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a good point. Yeah, exactly right. 774 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: So there were and there was a there was a 775 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: line that was a direct lift from Caddyshack and Happy 776 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: gilmore too. 777 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: I can't remember. It's a blind spot for me right now. 778 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 2: And I like that. I think I mean no palomage 779 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: to those kind of movies for sure. Caddy Shak is 780 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: the golf movie. Yeah, I wish we could just talk 781 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 2: about this crap and not the freaking. 782 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: Steve McCartney and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I'm so 783 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: psyched for McCartney. It sucks the Penguins are in Sweden, 784 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 3: not because it's not a cool trip, but because they're 785 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: off for these next three days. 786 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: I would love a Penguins game, you know what. 787 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about maybe later, maybe tomorrow, because 788 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: I have too much material for today. But I get 789 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: home last night, okay, and I I'm flipping a dial. 790 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: I come to sports and at Pittsburgh they were playing 791 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: a Penguins game from nineteen seventy seven, Penguin's at Toronto 792 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: Bob prints on play by play, the gun or the 793 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: legendary baseball announcer, and he was so well, you know 794 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: what's funny. I remembered him being worse. He was actually 795 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: really good. He just didn't know hockey, and that what 796 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: made it funny. 797 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 2: That's the classic. 798 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 4: They have it. 799 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 2: Now we have another. 800 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: They got it exactly, he said, he said, I remember, uh, 801 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: he called Phillis Posito the nit picker because he got 802 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: all the goals from in front and he and he goes, 803 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: and he goes, somebody needs to take the knit picker, 804 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: just shove their stick down his throat. 805 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 2: And then I guess the gunner thought about how it sounded. 806 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: And then well, I mean I don't mean that really, 807 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean just and then and then, but yesterday Tiger 808 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: Williams the paper, the maple leafs pest of the era. 809 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: He was saying, we owe that Tiger Williams a good ripping. 810 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: He goes, if not this game, then some other game. 811 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: I'd love to see Dick Pepperfield call a nice hockey game. 812 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: Do you think he would translate from basketball to hockey, 813 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 3: from from semi to me from semi redwood the tandem. 814 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 3: I thought those were two of the best characters in 815 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 3: the movie. 816 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: And actually when Dick Pepperfield did the play by play 817 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: on the game, he was actually competent. 818 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was competent. 819 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: What my favorite Dick pepper There were so many good 820 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: Dick Pepperfield lines. We are gonna go get some no 821 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: what what what, but it'll be fun. But the other 822 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: one was, uh, Jackie's teammates doing just a terrible job 823 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: stabilizing his spine. 824 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: One oh by ninety X Now it's your chance to 825 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: win one thousand dollars 826 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: Just entered this nationwide keyword on our website.