1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm KRS the talk station. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: It's seven forty two KRCD talk station. It's time for 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Steve Belso from the Clemic County Veteran Services to talk 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: about emergency care in a non VA facility. Steve, it 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: is great having you back in Man. Thank you again 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: as always for what you're doing for the American veteran. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: It is great to be with you, you your. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Crew at Klemic County Veteran Services, and of course a 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: shout out to everybody at the VA who's serving our 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: American veterans to the best of their abilities. But sometimes, 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: as I understand it, veterans have to go to a 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: non VA facility and that sure sounds like out of 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: network provider for us straight to you know, who didn't 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: serve the American military. 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: It's well one, yes, it is right, Yeah, it's life. 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: And so if I'm out of the Cincinnati area and 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: I happen to be traveling down to Florida as most 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: retirees do, why I don't know, I want to go 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: to Alaska. Nonetheless, it's your choice. When you're out of 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: state and out of our area. Who knows you're a 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 3: veteran with VA healthcare and. 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: All the vas aren't hooked up to some central computer 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: that says, yeah, this guy that came in with his 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: DD two to fourteen discharge and who signed up for 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: VA healthcare benefits in Hamilton County or Claremont County or 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: any of the other areas, they don't have a note 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: a record of that elsewhere. 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Not that's in transition. So whole another conversation. 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: They're moving in that direction, though, is that like a 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: glimmer of hope There not even a glimmer. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: Of hope that that is happening by location. And so 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: Serna was purchased by Oracle that sold it to the 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: VA so that all the VA facilities can have a 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: connection through our great cloud. Right, it's not floating overhead. 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: So now I can go from VA facility to facility 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: and oh there's Steve, right, I see you, instead of 37 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: being stovepiped into your VA locale only. 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Okay, but this is. 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: This is more really the the emergent topic today is 40 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: about I'm traveling down seventy five and I'm in the 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: middle of Georgia and my my chest starts killing me. 42 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: Your arm is godlib Yeah, I need to pull off 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: at a hospital well, I'm not trying to find a 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: local VA hospital to go to exactly. It's an emergency. 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: So I'm going to take the first hospital I see now. 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: In Cincinnati area, most hospitals know are you a veteran? 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: And to call the the Cincinnati VA. The problem becomes 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: when we can move out of our area locally, most 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: hospitals are not asking you. 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Are you a veteran? 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Do you have VA healthcare? 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: Really? 53 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: And so it's up to the responsibility of the veteran 54 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: or the veterans family to contact the VA within seventy 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: two hours. 56 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: All right, Steve's going to continue on this very important 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: subject matter when we return. It's seven forty five right now, 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: fifty five KRC the talk station. I get to strongly 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: recommend fast and pro roofing. 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: I just put it fifty five KRC the talk station. 61 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: Way, it's seven seven fifty fifty five kr z the 62 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: talk station, Tima sitting comic. Let's start over right, Plima 63 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: County Veteran Services. Steve Bell Zone Studio, the executive director. 64 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: He is providing great service as an American veteran and 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: it's a great first stop for veterans issues out there, 66 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: maybe even getting signed up for VA benefits getting to 67 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: your appointments. Clemon County Veterans Services does it all, and 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: God bless them for it. So going into getting emergency 69 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: operative word care at a non VA facility. Your example, Steve, 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: was maybe on vacation in Florida, you got a grabber 71 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: going on while you're driving a car. All you want 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: is the nearest hospital. It's not a VA hospital, So 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: you go there, you get your emergency treatment. That is 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: not to say you can go to an urgent care facility. 75 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: It needs to be an emergency facility. 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: That's right, absolutely, yeah, sort of. 77 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Proving that it is in fact a medical emergency, not 78 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: just loadable. 79 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: Well, well was right there. I just saw walk on it. 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: If it's non emergency base, then you would find a 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: local VA facility, which you can do outside of state. 82 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: But if it's an emergency, the VA wants you to 83 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: call nine to one one. Yeah, preferably right, instead of 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: driving yourself or have a spouse or someone of significant 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: interest take you to a non the closest hospital. 86 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Let's say it that way. 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: Those circumstances, when met, results in the VA paying for 88 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: the services at an n VA facility. 89 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: Correct, Correct, They there's a caveat to this though. 90 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: Is welcome to life. It's this government run So I 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: just say it is right. 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: And so here's here's the misnumbers that most individuals don't 93 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: know if they have VA healthcare, especially those who use 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: the VA for one hundred percent of the healthcare their 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: primary care physician. Uh, they're part of a pack team 96 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: somewhere and I have one never been told this. I 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: learned this by a veteran coming to our office saying 98 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: the VA is not paying for my husband's two weeks 99 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: in the emergency room. And my service officer says, have 100 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: they called the VA number? 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: Red flag for VA families out there? Here's here's the 102 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: ultimate point on this. Yes, you'll get the payment covered, 103 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: but what do you have to do to make sure 104 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: that happens? 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Steve Belzo, that's right. 106 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: You need to call if you can find if you're 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: at a VA, ask them for the community care card 108 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: because on it is a phone number. It is eight 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: four four seven two four seven six four to two. 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: And I suggest veterans and your spouses take a photo 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: of this that you have it resent on your phone 112 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: or save it as a phone contact number. So if 113 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: the veteran loved one is actually in the v VA 114 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: system for healthcare and has to visit the emergency room. 115 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: It's imperative that they let the hospital know they have 116 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: VA healthcare. 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so right out of the gate, that'd be the 118 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: first step. Second step is, while they're getting the emergency care, 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: hopefully it's short term turnaround, they're in and out, they 120 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: can call this VA number. Now you said the number 121 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 2: was eight four four. 122 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: Seven two four seven two four seven eight four to two. 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: Seven eight four to two. I just want to make 124 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: sure it was repeated to my veteran friends and families 125 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: can get that down. So what happens if you don't 126 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: reach out to the VA and call that number within 127 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: seventy two hours? 128 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 3: Now you've got a I won't call it a fight. 129 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: You're not promised. It becomes from will to question a right. 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: So it's how it's filed. Most hospitals in our Cincinnati 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: area know to report to the VA and ask are 132 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: you a veteran? However, it's always best to double up 133 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: the effort and ensure that someone from the family is 134 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: calling the VA. 135 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a pleasing thing to hear that our local 136 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: hospitals typically ask the question whether or not they're covered 137 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: under VA. Does the hospital unilaterally then contact the VA 138 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: for the family. So I just want to make sure 139 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: we're clear on this. Is it the norm for them 140 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: to do it? In other words, this condition, this phone 141 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: call has been satisfied by a hospital that asks whether 142 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: you're covered by the VA. Never take it for granted, 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: I knew you to say that, set It's. 144 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: One of those things. Double down on something like this. 145 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: Hospital emergency rooms are expensive, right right. 146 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: And of course the hospital wants to get paid, so 147 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: it's in their best interest to call the VIA because 148 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: that's where the reimbursement's going to come from. 149 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: It is, however, you don't know of the discipline and 150 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: the initiative of the individual that was the intake in 151 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: the emergency room to follow through to notify the VA. 152 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: So I would, because of the cost of these things 153 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: ensure for me. Hey, Mama, have this card. It is 154 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: a photo and I want you to call it within 155 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: seventy two hours. What if I'm incapacitated. What if I 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: did have a heart attack and they put me in 157 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: a coma automatically, I can't tell her. Hey, make sure 158 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: you call the VA, right, So this is for the 159 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 3: family members as well as a veteran to know this number, 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: because a family member can call the VA on behalf 161 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: of the veteran to notify them. My dad, my husband, 162 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: my uncle is currently an emergency room, just arrived here 163 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: and he's contacted and you may have to know his 164 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: last four is his social but somebody immedia Famili's got 165 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: to know that. 166 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, having practice in the insurance coverage at realm law 167 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: when I was practicing law, whether or not something is 168 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: truly a definitional emergency, that quite often is it none 169 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: until you get in there and they determined that, well 170 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: it's not an emergency. Is that going to be a 171 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: factor here? I mean, if I think I'm having a 172 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: grabber heart attack, go in and it turns out no, 173 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: you have gas, right right, I won't know that until 174 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: going to the emergency room, but it may be deemed 175 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: non emergent situation. 176 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: You won't. But however, somebody had to validate that in 177 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: the emergency room. Okay, right, you're not a physician, neither 178 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: am I I would rather be gas and someone bend 179 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: me over, like, oh maybe then it actually be a 180 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: heart attack. 181 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you get no argument on that, Steve 182 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: sure Safe. I don't know. 183 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: Some people don't want to have the gas attack, they'd 184 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: rather have a pill under their tongue. 185 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound like that's going to be a 186 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: really a big problem for someone. So if you clearly 187 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: are not in an emergency situation, you're not going to 188 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: have it covered in an AVIA facility. But if you 189 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: do go in, you leave its emergency. Maybe it is, 190 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: maybe it isn't. 191 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: Now for mental health, right, so we go to the 192 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: Compole Act, right, that's automatically tied in. It's mental health. 193 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: Stay there, we want to get you well. The VA 194 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: is not going to come grab you out of the 195 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: hospital either. If you go to the emergency room, you're 196 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: not contacting them. So they send the ambulance over because 197 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: we're going to take you over to the VA. No, 198 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: they want to ensure you're stabilized, right. 199 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: All right. 200 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Joe Strekker will add this information with the blog page 201 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: fifty five caresee dot com. But remember the number eight 202 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: four four seven two four seven eight four to two. 203 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: Get the card, the community care card from your VA. 204 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: Go to the Clarmont County Veteran Services and get their 205 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: help It's all there for you take advantage of it, 206 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: and yes, you will be covered as long as you 207 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: take the proper steps. And that's why we have Steve Belzo. 208 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely God bless you, sir. Have a wonderful Easter Man, 209 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: Happy Year it is. 210 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's risen. Thanks brother, Take care. Seven