1 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he was sitting in his bunker. I 2 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: think Eyor was just waiting on who and who was late. 3 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Holy smokes, what a glim outlook. That is. 4 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Sad. It's a mid term election in. 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: A hot year. Democrats were gonna win. 6 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: Stuff. 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: That's the way it's gone in history. 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: It's not a big shocker. 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 4: Clarity from Corey this morning, responding to a doom and 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 4: gloom talkback from last hour, brought to you by Lindahl 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: Realty from the iHeartRadio app it. 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Swin City's News Talk hour two post election. 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: From the six to five to one carpet Next Day 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: Install Studios Representative Tom Emmer coming up in a little 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: less than twenty minutes from now, and of course I 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 4: want to continue to hear from you and the iHeartRadio 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: app as we work through the election results from last night. 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and just do a quick recap for 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: those of us just joining the show this morning to 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: let you know where things are. So after a first round, 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: Tally and I went through and broke down in the 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 4: first hour how rink choice voting works. I don't want 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: to go through that exercise again. So if you missed it, 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: be sure to go back and listen to the podcast 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: available on the iHeartRadio app. But Minneapolis Man Baby may 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: or Mom jeans Jacob Fry does lead the pack of 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: Minneapolis mayoral candidates. 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: Now, the race isn't over. 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: Ballots continue to be tallied consideration of voters and second 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: and third candidates. But as some have mentioned online, it's 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: a bit insurmountable at this point in time for Omar 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: fat to find some fourteen thousand votes among thirty eight 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: thousand to usher him to victory. So thankfully, depending on 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: your view, a jog the economic ruin in despair under 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: Jacob Fry or a sprint under Omar Fonte, looks like 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: we're taking the jog approach. New York City will be sprinting. 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: We'll get to that again in just a moment. Here's 39 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: a little bit of what Fte had to say last night. 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: By the way, this campaign belongs to all of us. 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: The best rivers, the downtown workers, the maintenance and editorial 42 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: staff will work too hard for little paid. 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 5: This city belongs to the teachers, the nurses. 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: And the good workers. 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: We're hired, having the hired who. 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 5: Are tired of having their wages lowered while their companies 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 5: make record profits. 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: By the way, everybody he mentioned in that. 49 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: Portion of his speech last night, if he were to 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: get elected as mayor, they probably wouldn't have jobs to 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: go to in a relatively short period of time, as 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: businesses would flee the city. It's the same thing that's 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: going to happen in New York City. Just thought perception alone. 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: You know, mom, Donnie's going to have to face the 55 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: fact that he talked a good game. 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: He's anti Trump. Let's look at him that way. He's 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: anti Trump, and right now in the world, anti Trump 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: is going to get you a lot of attention. And 59 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: what do you do if you're anti Trump? 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: You you embrace communism, socialism, you know, you just whatever 61 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: is however you want to. 62 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Describe, because he's kind of a mashup. 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: He really is the greatest hits of your far leftist 64 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: ideologies just rolled into one charismatic package that ends up 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: standing there behind the podium speaking to the masses. 66 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: As the anti Trump. 67 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: We will prove that there is no problem too large 68 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: for government to solve, and no concern too small for 69 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: it to care about. It's all a lie, probably one 70 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: of the most terrifying things you can hear from a candidate, 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: and he simply will not have the power. He'll have 72 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: to face reality. But the majority of voters, if you 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: watched any of the interviews with the people in New 74 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 4: York City asking why they were voting for Mom Donnie, 75 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: they didn't know. Some of them did. Don't misunderstand. I'm 76 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: not going to give everybody a free pass. There's plenty 77 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: of comedies in New York City. But it was a 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: historic vote. A lot of people that typically typically don't 79 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: come out and vote vote in New York selections, and 80 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: they didn't know why they were voting for Mom Donnie. 81 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: They did it because it was fashionable, because. 82 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: It was trendy, and he's the anti Trump. 83 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: Back to Minneapolis and Minnesota and Saint Paul Kahuli Herr 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: was elected to Saint Paul. Mayer won that on a 85 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: second round of voting and ranked choice voting. Again, I 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: don't know what the tallies are and whether or not 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: she actually ended up getting a majority of all the votes, 88 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: or if she ended up beating Mayor Melvin Carter with 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: a minority of the votes, but the mayor elect said 90 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: she does plan to gather Saint Paul individuals who have 91 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: often been left out of the conversation about the future 92 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: of the city, saying, one of the biggest things I've 93 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: heard from people is that they didn't feel heard. They 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: didn't feel like they were being brought in as partners, 95 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: and we'll listen and do this work together. 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 5: You're fascinating to talk to. 97 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: It means nothing, but pathetically it resonates with voters. What 98 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: I've heard is that people don't feel heard. So I'm 99 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 4: gonna hear him, and then I'm gonna listen, and then 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: we're going to talk about the things that I heard 101 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: when I was listening to those voters who said that 102 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: they weren't being heard, and then we're going to work 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: together with all of the listening that's taken place. Her 104 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: joins the city council, comprising seven women, making Saint Paul 105 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: a rare large city that. 106 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: Is entirely women led. So there you go. She said. 107 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: Her vision or hers vision for Saint Paul in five 108 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: or ten years, is a city government so adept at 109 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: nuts and bolts that no one will even know it 110 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 4: was ever an issue. So that if I lay the 111 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: foundation in groundwork, whoever comes next and. 112 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Go and build on that what. 113 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what any of the speeds, and I 114 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: don't think any of the voters do either. 115 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: It just sounds good. 116 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 4: Ryan Winkler, Socketrench and former House Majority leader, who worked 117 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: with her in the Lower Chamber and supported her mayoral candidacies, 118 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: that her election should be a wake up call for 119 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: Democrats tasked with governing. If we aren't paying attention to 120 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: basic needs, then there's no reason to trust to the 121 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: city to take on bigger challenges. If we can't fill potholes, 122 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: I don't see how you can solve global warming and poverty. Listen, 123 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: it's going to be just more of the same. She 124 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: just packaged it differently. She put a different wrapper on 125 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: the socialist gift, gave it to the voters, and they 126 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: decided that. 127 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: They want to change. It's just not going to be 128 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: changed enough. Now. 129 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: What is interesting, by the way, is that because assuming 130 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: and again this is the assumption, I guess, we're still 131 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: tabulating votes, but it's all been called for Cokahooley her 132 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: in Saint Paul, but she leaves an open House seat, 133 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: as does the special election in District forty seven with 134 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: Amanda hemingson Ieger also leaving an open house seat, so 135 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: that actually gives the GOP and the legislature temporarily a 136 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: two seat majority. 137 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: Yea. 138 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if Governor Tim mals knew that. 139 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: Remember when he wanted to call a special session that 140 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: might have been taking place like right about now, but 141 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: his party might have been down two seats and he 142 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: decided not to chee just throwing it out there. Not 143 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: the first one to go and say that, by the way, 144 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 4: in an nok Hannepen. When it comes to the school 145 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: board races, pretty much everything stayed the same. The politically 146 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: divided school board on Tuesday night will continue. All three 147 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 4: incumbents where we elected. Matt Audett, the one conservative who 148 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: was on the show yesterday, did win his seat again. 149 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: So that's great news. And of course we've been talking 150 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: about how the Democrats pretty much took all the races 151 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: nationwide New York, New Jersey, Virginia. 152 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: As was expected. 153 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 4: Now a lot of Republicans thinking that the shutdown is 154 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: about to end, they might be wrong. 155 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: I agree with Trump. I think that, you know, Democrats 156 00:08:58,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: ended up for. 157 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: Their victories because some of what was surprising is some 158 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 4: of the margins were larger than they thought. I think 159 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: a lot of it has to do with the shutdown continuing. 160 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: Got a couple of clips regarding that. By the way, 161 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: Caroline Levitt, despite all the good news from last night yesterday, 162 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: heading into during election day, unveiled some pretty scary news 163 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: for Chuck A. 164 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: Schumer. Here. Listen to this from the White House Press Secretary. 165 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 6: Call on your Democrat senators and tell them to side 166 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 6: with President Trump and Republicans to vote to reopen the government. 167 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 6: Our nation's four largest airlines, United, Delta, American, and Southwest 168 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 6: have now all endorsed the Republican nonpartisan clean funding bill 169 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 6: to end the government shutdown. Major unions, collectively representing tens 170 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: of thousands of pilots, have also joined the airlines and 171 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 6: calling on Democrats to pass the clean, nonpartisan cr But. 172 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 4: Now that the election is over, I don't know how 173 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: much concern Democrats are going to have because they don't 174 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: need to worry about any sort of electoral or lack 175 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: thereof viability. So we'll see how Democrats end up responding 176 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: to the fact that unions are now turning against this 177 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: this shutdown as well. 178 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 5: Good morning, John. 179 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: I think the scariest one for me is Jay Jones, 180 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: and they were showing last night his favorability among women 181 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: is like super high. Do they not realize or do 182 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: they not believe that he made these threats to kill 183 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: people and their children. Yeah, like it just blows my mind. 184 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: No, listen, I'm right there with you. J Jones is distressing. 185 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 4: J Jones and Mom Donnie winning are both distressing. 186 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: You know. 187 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: I've laid out sort of the scenario relating to Mom Donnie, 188 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: and that's not as cut and dry in terms of 189 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 4: what people really truly want. How many of the individuals 190 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 4: that voted for him were really knowingly embracing communism that 191 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: Mom Donnie spreads and weren't just voting for him because 192 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: he was the anti Trump. 193 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: It is. 194 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: It is though, Like I said, it is just stressing 195 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: the willingness of Dems to still go and vote for 196 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: somebody who is so openly communist. I'm not sounding the 197 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: alarm bells either. Cuomo was a damaged candidate. S lee 198 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: one never had a chance. Sephendoff votes probably still wouldn't 199 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 4: have been enough. The hypothetical matchup between Mom Donnie and 200 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: Cuomo was about forty seven to forty four percent, And 201 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 4: again Cuomo was a horrible candidate. You know, New York 202 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: City's about to learn a valuable lesson and Mom Donnie's 203 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: going to find out just how much he can do. 204 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: Jay Jones getting back to the talkbackers point is probably 205 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 4: one of the most distressing because it continues to show 206 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: how toxic and straight up dangerous the death in politics 207 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: culture that Democrats have embraced still permeates. That's not a 208 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: good thing by any by any stretch. I expect the 209 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: same divisions and rhetoric to continue and get worse once 210 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: we get past the holidays and heavily into next year's 211 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 4: midterm elections. 212 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: We'll get the thoughts of. 213 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: Representative Tom Emmer when he joins us next and whether 214 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: or not he thinks the shutdown is going to end 215 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: anytime soon. And then Lisa Damith will be joining us 216 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: at seven thirty in studio here on Twin City's News 217 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: Talk Am eleven thirty and one O three five FM. 218 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: Had a lot of comments this morning, people heading into 219 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: their bunkers. I think the future of the country is 220 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: coming to an end. I've been doing my best to 221 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: try to calm some nerves here on Twin Cities News 222 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: Talk Am eleven thirty and one O three five FM 223 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: from the six five to one Carpet plus Next Day 224 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: Install Studios newly announced the gubernatorial candidate, Lisa Damath, joining 225 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: us just after the bottom of the hour now to 226 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: let us know if he thinks this guy is falling 227 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: after last night's election results. Representative Tom Emmer, Good Morne 228 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 4: and Tom's your what's your hot take? At seven three 229 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: Central Time on this fine Wednesday morning. 230 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: Well, I mean no surprise in good morning. By the way, John, 231 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: there's no surprise in New York. 232 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: Virginia. 233 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: That was not a surprise except for the Attorney general, 234 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: which I think some of us just thought that the 235 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: Democrats were I don't know, more American behaving than we've seen. Remember, 236 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: half the Democrat Party literally who identifies Democrats, said it 237 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: would be justified to assassinate President Trump. So why should 238 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: we be surprised that they elected a Democrat age who 239 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: wanted his political opponent and his family dead. I mean 240 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: it just this is not this is not my grandfather's 241 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: Democrat party anymore. Look, Mom, Dommy, we knew he was 242 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: going to win. They did everything they could to try 243 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: and wake up the electric But now they're going to 244 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: find out. I saw this morning that this is you know, 245 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: this is about affordability, this is about you know, opportunity. No, 246 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: it's not. It's about a lack of education. John. People 247 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: have not educated these people to understand why there is 248 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: a lack of affordability and a lack of opportunity. It's 249 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: because of all the over reaching of the socialist Democrats 250 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: that we've had in this country for years. And now 251 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: guess what. Now you're going to go to the next step. 252 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: You're going to elect a Marxist mom DOMI who wants 253 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: to control that. He wants government owned grocery stores. I mean, 254 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: where is it at, John, And people will wake up? 255 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: So I don't think the sky is pollend. I think 256 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: you've got to go back to the Winston Churchill quote 257 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: never give up, never ever give up. I mean, the 258 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: truth is on our side, the policies are on our side, 259 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: and we still Donald Trump is in the White House. 260 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: They can try to argue that this is somehow a 261 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: negative on his popularity. That's not true. He is still 262 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: the strongest leader in the country and the world. Republicans 263 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: still control the Senate in the House. Although we see 264 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: what Chuck Schumer has done to the Senate by shutting 265 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,359 Speaker 2: the government down now for the thirty sixth day in row. 266 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: But look, all is not lost Minneapolis. We may get 267 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: the boy toy Mare back after all. I mean, we'll 268 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: see what happens with that ridiculous rank choice voting. But John, 269 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: for everybody who's like, oh my goodness, it's over, you're 270 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: talking about half a dozen different places we knew or 271 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: had good reason to believe we knew what the outcomes 272 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: we're going to be. And why remember it's a year 273 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: now since seventy seven million people voted for a new direction. 274 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Those people are still there and Republicans, if we can 275 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: get this government open, are going to continue to deliver. 276 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: And I think the future is bright. But last night 277 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: certainly certainly would give you plenty of arguments on the 278 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: other side of why it's not. 279 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: Well representative Tom Emmer, I think there's a you know, 280 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: I think there's a there's a takeaway here or at 281 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: least something positive in as much as you know, once 282 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: again Republicans conservatives have the opportunity to compare and contrast. 283 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: And if this continues to signal this far left shift 284 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: of the Democrat party, or the fact that they're already there, 285 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: then we do have the opportunity to take advantage of 286 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: that and continue to move forward on conservative, you know, 287 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: fiscally responsible principles, capitalism versus socialism. So there is an 288 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: opportunity in all of this, and I've heard similar arguments 289 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: made that there's some individuals on the right that almost 290 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: would have wished that a fate would win just because 291 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: you would see a faster example of how horrible these 292 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: policies are. These are opportunities moving forward, and so I 293 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: won't say that I'm excited, but we're going to have 294 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: to have these battles regardless. 295 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: So I would rather have. 296 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: A clear delineation as possible between left and right of 297 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 4: which to argue the merits of the party that we 298 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 4: belong to. 299 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: Very well, said John, That's where I was trying to go. 300 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: I didn't do it as eloquently as you when I 301 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: was talking about report. It's about affordability, Okay, Why is 302 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: everything unaffordable? When they report that healthcare is impossible, we 303 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: can't pay for it. You know, why could you pass Obamacare? 304 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: You completely upended the system and you distorted the marketplace 305 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: so that you basically benefited your insurers at the expense 306 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: of the American citizens, and choice and competition is where 307 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: it's at. So you said it better. The only thing 308 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: I would change, which I think all of us need 309 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: to start changing, because the way the young people have 310 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: been educated, they don't know what capitalism is. Thought that 311 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: has a bad connotation. We need to use the term 312 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: free enterprise all the time. It is about free enterprise 313 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: versus Marxism and socialism. That's literally what it is. 314 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: I like it. 315 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: We're a little short on time. 316 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: I had Lisa Damuth, a Minnesota House speaker, joining me 317 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: in studio here in just a moment. I do want 318 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: to get your thoughts though, relating to the shutdown. We're 319 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: past the election, some expectation the Democrats would vote to 320 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: reopen it based off of the election results last night. 321 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: Does that matter your expectation on how much longer the 322 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: shutdown is going to continue? 323 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I told you about that violent left 324 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: that I know some of my friends in Minnesota are 325 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: like you, I am not a terrorist. You keep referring 326 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: to the terrorist wing of the party. Well, then, just 327 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: about the third of year party that identifies with a 328 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: terrorist organization called hamas right, this group that was marching 329 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: on the mall calling for the assassination of President Trump 330 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: and all this disgusting stuff. Chuck Schumer and the other 331 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: leaders here in Washington on the left are so afraid 332 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: of them, John, they could not open the government before 333 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: yesterday because if they had, that group would have turned 334 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: on them, and they were afraid that they may not 335 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: show up at the polls. So now they have waited 336 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: for the election to pass, they won in the places 337 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 2: that they expected to win, they will declare victory. I 338 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: expect now that they can also argue we fought harder 339 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: than anybody in the history by shutting down this a 340 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: record number of days, thirty six thirty seven days. But 341 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: these evil Republicans are hurting Americans, and we're Democrats to 342 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: the rescue. And then they're left wing biased media like 343 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: The Star Tribute to try to echo that message. The 344 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: good news is, John, Americans are a lot smarter than 345 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 2: these political elites given credit for. I think the future 346 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: is bright for us for the very reason that you 347 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: just described this morning. It is about free enterprise versus 348 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: government controlled whatever they're going to tell you what you 349 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: can do, who you can do it with, where you 350 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: can do it and how you can do it. You 351 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: know what, that is not going to sit well with 352 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: the vast majority of Americans. It's going to be a 353 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: great policy debate going forward and we're going to win. 354 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 4: Itresentative Emmer, thank you for the time this morning. Always 355 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: great speaking with you, and hopefully we can do it 356 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: again next week, my. 357 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: Friend, enjoy the frost. John all right. 358 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: Coming up, newly announced gubernatorial candidate Lisa Daemonth will be 359 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: joining me in a studio lots to discuss about her campaign. Also, 360 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 4: a performance audit from the Office of Legislative Auditor found 361 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: that Governor Tim Walls's office failed to adequately follow policies 362 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: relating to receipts. 363 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: Inventory, and payroll. I know right talking. 364 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 4: We'll get Lisa Damonth's thoughts coming up when she joins 365 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: us next here on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven 366 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: thirty one oh three five FM, Twin. 367 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: City's News Talk. 368 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm eleven thirty one oh three five FM from 369 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: the six five to one Carpet Next Day Install Studios, 370 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: John Justice. I am very pleased to welcome into the studio. 371 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: Minnesota House Speaker newly announced to gubernatorial candidate Lisa Damuth. 372 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: Good morning on this post election Wednesday. How you doing good? 373 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 5: Early morning, John. How are you? 374 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing Wow, I'm doing wow? 375 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: What are your what sort of your Let's just start here, 376 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: since we've been talking about the election results and again 377 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 4: off your election. A lot of these races kind of 378 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: went the way that we expected, a lot of different 379 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: angles in terms of the candidates and what they stand for. 380 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: But I'm curious to sort of hear your instinctive reaction, 381 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: you know, including what's taking place here in Minneapolis and 382 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 4: Saint Paul. 383 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 7: So we know that we're looking at a confirmed word 384 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 7: a little bit later in Minneapolis. We don't know that 385 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 7: one for sure. The change in Saint Paul, though, was 386 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 7: a little bit surprising. I actually came into the legislature 387 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 7: with Representative her and knowing that she had worked under 388 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 7: the now outgoing Mayor Carter. 389 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 5: I was a little bit surprised by that. 390 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 4: But is there any Have you done much thought as 391 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: to why that change took place? It seems like a 392 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: lot of rebranding. I don't see a lot of separation 393 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 4: in terms of policy between between Carter and her, except 394 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: that this would certainly show that the people in Saint 395 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 4: Paul wanted to have some sort of change, but any 396 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, any sort of takeaway right now, less than 397 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 4: twenty four hours from her win. 398 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 7: I don't think big over big changes right now. I 399 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 7: kind of agree with where you're at. You know, is 400 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 7: there going to be big changes. It'll be interesting to 401 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 7: see what her platform is, what she wants to change. 402 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 7: The city of Saint Paul has been in decline. 403 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: We know that. 404 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 7: You know, the downtown area is quite empty, and there's 405 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 7: there's shutdowns going on in different buildings across the city. 406 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 7: But it'll be interesting to watch how she comes into 407 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 7: that office. 408 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: How important would your focus be on on the Twin 409 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: Cities themselves if you were to win the governor's race. 410 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: You know, how important are the Twin Cities to the 411 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: state as a as a whole. I mean, there's not 412 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: a lot of power from the governor standpoint to over 413 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: you know what can be done. But I'm just curious 414 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 4: to get your perspective on, you know, where those cities 415 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: need to go to help benefit the state as a whole. 416 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: As governor. 417 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 7: I'm looking in my run for governor and then to 418 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 7: serve the state of Minnesota equally across the entire state. 419 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 7: And what that has to take into consideration is the 420 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 7: fact that each part of our state has its own uniqueness. 421 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 7: So when you think of our larger cities, I want 422 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 7: them to succeed. They have to be successful in the 423 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 7: way that they're governed, in their economic they need to 424 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 7: draw in both housing and businesses. We want that to 425 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 7: be successful in our largest cities, because then our state 426 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 7: is successful. But I also want our very smallest communities, 427 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 7: our townships, and our very smallest cities to have what 428 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 7: they need to provide for their residents too. So I 429 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 7: really look at our state in the vast difference that 430 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 7: it is the different regions of it. You know, I 431 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 7: think of the north Shore, the mining areas. I think 432 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 7: of the agriculture out where I'm from. There's great agriculture 433 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 7: in that area, the southern parts of the states. We 434 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 7: have to be successful for everyone in Minnesota. John, what 435 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 7: that is is that is not a one size fits all. 436 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: Lisa Damuth, house speaker running for governor, joins me in studio. 437 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: So let's go back. So the reason why you're here 438 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 4: somewhat of a crowded field of announced candidates already, and 439 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: you enter into the race this week. What ultimately led 440 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: to this decision. 441 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 7: I've been serving as Speaker of the House just this year, 442 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 7: so it's interesting, and you know, you and your listeners 443 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 7: definitely are going to remember the year in the legislature 444 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 7: twenty three and twenty four when it was full one 445 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 7: party Democrat control. There were changes made to our state. 446 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 7: Remember the eighteen billion dollar, eighteen billion dollar surplus that 447 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 7: we had had, and I'll say that it didn't go 448 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 7: back to the taxpayers. Every one of us had our 449 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 7: taxes and fees raised because the Democrats raised our state 450 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 7: budget another thirty eight per another ten billion dollars. At 451 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 7: the time, House Republicans and I was leading as minority leader. 452 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 7: We were in the minority, didn't have the votes to 453 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 7: change anything, but we had concerns just on the budget 454 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 7: itself going forward, saying this was not sustainable. And then 455 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 7: we watched the pushing of other social issues come through 456 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 7: so heavy handed with Democrats, and they really changed the 457 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 7: way our state was. 458 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: Well. 459 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 7: Then in the twenty four election when House Republicans, we 460 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 7: were the only ones on the ballot and the legislature, 461 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 7: House Republicans took that tie and before you know, whether 462 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 7: you're in sports or other things. People maybe not have 463 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 7: realized how important a tie actually is. 464 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 5: But look what we got done. 465 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 7: We delivered the largest spending reduction from buyennium to biennium 466 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 7: of five billion dollars. We protected our non public schools. 467 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 7: We were able to end the taxpayer funded health insurance 468 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 7: for illegal immigrants. 469 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: There were great things that were done in just a tie. 470 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 7: So looking at what we could do with that one 471 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 7: half of one third of state government, I thought, you 472 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 7: know what, it's time for me to step up and 473 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 7: serve my state in the area as governor. 474 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: I've been always serving. 475 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 7: That's the reason I've looked at this, serving the school 476 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 7: on the school board, serving in the legislature, and now 477 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 7: I want to serve as governor of the state of Minnesota. 478 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: How do you, could, you know, compare yourself or contrast 479 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: with the other candidates that have announced. Was there something 480 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: that was missing where you felt like, Okay, I need 481 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 4: to step up and run as well that the other individuals, 482 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 4: perhaps you know, wouldn't provide. I'm just you know, again, 483 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 4: it's somewhat of a crowded field that I want to 484 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: get into. 485 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: There's already been a little bit of pushback. 486 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: Since you're announcing, but you know yourself compared to the 487 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: other candidates, why still step into the ring. 488 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 7: There's an excellent slate of candidates that have already stepped up, 489 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 7: and so I won't say anything disparaging against them. They're 490 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 7: excellent individuals, and I think the thing that we have 491 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: in common as all of us is we want to 492 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 7: defeat Tim Walls and the Democrats. 493 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 5: That is our laser focused goal. 494 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 7: What I bring that is different is leadership, serving as speaker, 495 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 7: serving as Minority leader, but also being the only one 496 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 7: of the candidates that has actually had to negotiate with 497 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 7: Governor Walls, sit across the table and get things done 498 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 7: for the state of Minnesota. I bring that different perspective 499 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 7: and that experience that will lend to both the campaign 500 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 7: but specifically for governing and leading our state. 501 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 4: How do you respond to the criticism from your own 502 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: side and the attempts to sort of attach you to 503 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: Walls in raising taxes or making the streets unsafe as 504 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 4: some of the claims have been put forward. 505 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: Have said. 506 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 7: That statement was brought forward by my colleague Kristen Robbins, 507 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 7: and I definitely consider her a friend. We came into 508 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 7: the legislature together in twenty nineteen. 509 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 5: We officed right next to each other. 510 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 7: And what I would say about some of those claims 511 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 7: in there is, again, we are one half of one 512 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 7: third of state government, and what we were able to 513 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 7: negotiate and liver for Minnesotan's had to be bipartisan. Because 514 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 7: of the tie, Republicans couldn't go in and just pass 515 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 7: whatever we wanted. At the very end, all of that 516 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 7: bipartisan work started from the very first committee meeting because 517 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 7: we had co chairs in every committee that had to 518 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 7: be worked together Democrats and Republicans. So it took bipartisan 519 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 7: votes from the very first bill that moved from the 520 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 7: first committee all the way through until things were passed 521 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 7: off the House floor. 522 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 5: That was the work that was done. 523 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 7: I had committed to protecting Minnesota families from tax increases, 524 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 7: and that's what we were able to deliver on. 525 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: So with the elections that just took place overnight, not 526 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: a lot of surprises. 527 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, these were Democrat areas. 528 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: There is you know, commentary over the candidates what they 529 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: stand for on the left, but they pretty much ended 530 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: up coming out the way that people expected. The only 531 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: the only cause of concern, in my view is when 532 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: you look at some of the disc since in terms 533 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 4: of the results, where some of the victories were wider 534 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: than what people had expected. Truth of the matter is 535 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: Trump wasn't on the ballot. A majority of these candidates 536 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: that we're running in the elections from overnight, we're putting 537 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 4: Trump on the ballot. I mean, Mom, Donnie was being 538 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: incredibly outspoken about it. It's something that Governor Tim Walls 539 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: tends to do. Heading into next year's election, Trump's not 540 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: going to be on the ballot again. So I'm very 541 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: much of the opinion that, you know, the GOP is 542 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 4: going to have to figure out a way to go 543 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: counter that. And what's interesting to me is, I know 544 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 4: you mentioned Trump in your announcement. Governor Tim Wallas has 545 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: been incredibly anti Trump. We had the Star Tribune yesterday 546 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 4: immediately trying to tie you to Trump as if it's 547 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: a negative. So when we're looking at this election for 548 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 4: the next year, Trump not being on the ballot and 549 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: still is going to be a major focal point, how 550 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: do you go and handle that in terms of your campaign. 551 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 7: My campaign is focused on Minnesota and Minnesotan's and wanting 552 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 7: to do the best that I can for our state. 553 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 7: We have to have a stronger economy, and that includes 554 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 7: making Minnesota a business friendly state where businesses can thrive, 555 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 7: they can stay, and that we can't continue to put 556 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 7: on burdensome mandates on our businesses that choose that make 557 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 7: them choose other states or to close whatever that might be. 558 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 7: The other thing that I'm looking at is families have 559 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 7: to be able to afford their lives. John We've talked 560 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 7: about that increase in the state budget. Even though I 561 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 7: was able to deliver a reduction in spending, we are 562 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 7: one of the highest taxed states here for both individuals 563 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 7: and corporations. We have to look back, look at scaling 564 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 7: back some of that state budget, and then education. Our 565 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 7: kids cannot read at grade level. Only half of them can. 566 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 7: Some schools are doing excellent and have excellent results for 567 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 7: their students, but not all schools. Yet we're pouring state 568 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 7: money in in ways that isn't making it's not making 569 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 7: the outcomes any better. So when I think of the 570 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 7: things that I have and the hope and vision that 571 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 7: I have for Minnesota, that's what I can bring forward 572 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 7: in my race for governor. President Trump has definitely delivered 573 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 7: on his campaign promises. Securing our borders and making sure 574 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 7: that our states are safer because of that is something 575 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 7: that he said and he has delivered on and will 576 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 7: continue to do so. 577 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 5: He is brokering peace deals. 578 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: He is a solid president that is doing the work 579 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 7: for the United States and also being respected really across 580 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 7: the world for the work that he's doing. And so 581 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 7: in having him as part of the conversation, when I've 582 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 7: announced my run for governor, i will be seeking that endorsement, 583 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 7: but I'm really laser focused on Minnesota and what my 584 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 7: vision is and how to achieve it. 585 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: Talking with a House speaker Lisa Damuth of course running 586 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: for governor as well. How much I'm trying to figure 587 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 4: out how I want to phrase this. I've been talking 588 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: about this quite a bit on the show. The political 589 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: landscape right now is really bizarre, like I've never seen 590 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: anything like this before. The divisions have never been more 591 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: clear between left and right right now, to the point 592 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 4: where I've questioned a lot on the show how much 593 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: the issues are even going to matter. I'm somewhat of 594 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 4: the opinion that we need to make sure that we 595 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: get as many you know, Republicans voting as possible, and 596 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: even more so in the upcoming election, because I just 597 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: don't know how much the issues are going to matter. 598 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: Now. 599 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: You mentioned a lot of those issues, and I'm curious 600 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: your perspective on that. When you're out campaigning and you're 601 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 4: talking with Republican voters or you're talking with Democrat voters, 602 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: do you think that this election cycle will still be 603 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: hinging on the issues or is it more so going 604 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: to be just getting the number of Republicans out voting 605 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: going to be the deciding factor. I mean, the issue 606 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: is still going to be in play like they have 607 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: been in years past. 608 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 7: I think, can I choose all of the above, go 609 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 7: for it. And the reason is I do think the 610 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 7: issues matter. And the reason behind that, John is the 611 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 7: things you know. You do a great job of diving 612 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 7: deep into the issues and really looking at what is 613 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 7: happening to our state, the decisions that are being made. 614 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 7: Not everyone is always as up on the current events 615 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 7: of what's happening. And so I think, finally, as we've 616 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 7: been talking about fraud for years in the House, trying 617 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 7: to draw attention to that, we are finally getting the 618 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 7: attention of Minnesotan's across the state that oh there really 619 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 7: is fraud, almost a billion dollars of fraud. That's not 620 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 7: new to you and your listeners and me working in 621 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 7: the legislature, but it's finally gaining that attention. So the 622 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 7: issues that are top of mind, it's our job as 623 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 7: candidates legislators. The media needs to do and I'm talking broadly, 624 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 7: the media needs to do a better job of reporting 625 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 7: on what is happening. And so the issues are starting 626 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 7: to raise to the top. But absolutely Republicans have to 627 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 7: show up. We cannot have Republicans sitting back thinking, Okay, 628 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 7: well we're good with President Trump in office, so we'll 629 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 7: set this one out. 630 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 8: We can't have that anymore. There's too much at risk. 631 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 8: So there was a new story that came out. I'll 632 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 8: work off the version here from Alpha News. A performance 633 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 8: audit from the Office of Legislative Auditor found the Governor 634 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 8: Tim Walls and his office failed to adequately follow policies 635 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 8: relating to receipts, inventory, and payroll. 636 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Sorry I just chuckle when I read this. I go 637 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: like it's something else. 638 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 4: The OLAS report examined thirty months of operations from July 639 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: of twenty two through December of twenty four. The auditors 640 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 4: found that Walls's office did not adequately follow policies relating 641 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 4: to property management receipt management. They identified numerous vendor problems, 642 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: found the office lacked proper documentation to support various employees 643 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 4: and reimbursement, and said the office had payroll issues. So 644 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 4: the OLA has made recommendations that Walls has agreed to. 645 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 4: Walls has said that they've resolved all eleven of the 646 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 4: twelve issues. First question I have with this is do 647 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: you take this story and what the OLA found and 648 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: do you overlay it with the fraud or is this something? 649 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: Is this something separate from that? What are your thoughts 650 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: on that? 651 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 5: Accountability starts at the top. 652 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 7: That means in a company, your CEO has to make 653 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 7: sure that there's accountability and that is how they lead 654 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 7: the rest of the organization. We were talking about a 655 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 7: governor that at the top has these many findings against 656 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 7: him on some of the basics of running a business 657 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 7: or running a state. 658 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 5: Now, can he do that all on his own? 659 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: No? 660 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 7: Has he built the right team around him to make 661 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 7: sure all the boxes are checked and they're just being 662 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 7: responsible with state tax dollars. Clearly no. But when we 663 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 7: have fraud in multiple agencies that has gone unaccounted for 664 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 7: and unchecked by our governor, I am not surprised. I 665 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 7: am very disappointed, but I am not surprised that these 666 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 7: are the findings in his office and it's under one 667 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 7: hundred employees. 668 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: I'm getting a little I'm getting a little nuanced here. 669 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: So I just want to throw that out there because 670 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 4: you may or may not know the dynamics of it. 671 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: But the one thing that stuck around was the OLA 672 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 4: makes these recommendations on the on the findings that were flagged. 673 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 4: Should there be a different means of accountability apart from 674 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 4: just recommendations. I mean, I assume maybe that's just the 675 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 4: only thing that the Office of Legislative Auditor can do, 676 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: but I you know, I see things like this in 677 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 4: proper payments receipts and I just kind of go and 678 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 4: all the OLA is able to do is put forward recommendations, 679 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 4: should there be more there or where does the accountability 680 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 4: you need to step in? 681 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 7: So the OLA makes those recommendations, and when we've seen 682 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 7: different reports from the o LA, there are recommendations. But 683 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 7: as we've seen in other agencies, those recommendations have not 684 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 7: been in clemented. 685 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 5: By the legislature. 686 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 7: So the legislature needs to take the recommendations, hold the 687 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 7: agencies and in this case, the Governor's office accountable, and 688 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 7: have that conversation. 689 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 5: Saying, these are the recommendations. 690 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 7: Have you put those into place or have you changed 691 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 7: the way you do things in a way that might 692 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 7: even be better. If you haven't put put them into place, 693 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 7: why not and what are you going to do? And 694 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 7: so I think it's going to be the legislature's job. 695 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 7: We are working on the report that came out to 696 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 7: make sure that when we return on February seventeenth, we 697 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 7: will address this. You know, we can address it with 698 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 7: you and in the media right now and talk about it, 699 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 7: but we need some changes within there. There has to 700 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 7: be at a basis of internal controls that prevent things 701 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 7: like this. Again, John, this is in the Governor's office happening, 702 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 7: and multiple areas of fraud in multiple agencies under his 703 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 7: seven years of leadership. It's time for him to be 704 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 7: done with his time as governor here in the state 705 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 7: of minnesot so we can move on and really get 706 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 7: our state back on the right track. 707 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: Let's wrap on this. 708 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 4: Talking with a House speaker, Lisa Damuth running for governor, 709 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 4: we were in the middle of talking about fraud, and 710 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 4: you know, there's so many other issues that we could 711 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 4: end up spending another hour on, whether it's the lack 712 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 4: of the special session and what Walls wanted to do, 713 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 4: but let's stick to fraud for just a moment. There's 714 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 4: so many layers that's been revealed in this, you know, 715 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 4: estimated six billion dollars worth. Which part of this is 716 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 4: most I'm assuming it's all concerning So I'm making that assumption. 717 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 4: I think I'm okay the way you're shaking your head 718 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 4: at me, yes, So which aspect of it is most concerning? 719 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 4: The way that these programs were designed, or the fact 720 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 4: that when the fraud gets discovered within DHS there seems 721 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: to be this lack of concern that relates to the 722 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 4: check still being written. I mean, again, there's a lot 723 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 4: of layers here and a lot of distressing aspects. But 724 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm curious what's most distressing for you with what has 725 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 4: been revealed with the fraud here in Minnesota. 726 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 7: It's all distressing, and we're not going to have a 727 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 7: magic wand that we can just kind of flip a 728 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 7: switch and just change it all immediately, and we recognize that. 729 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 7: But where there's been blocking of the bill for the OIG. 730 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 7: So if you remember back into the legislative session, and 731 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 7: OIG would have been that independent agency that would have 732 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 7: overseen the agencies to make sure fraud was not going 733 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 7: to continue. When we're prosecuting fraud, that's great and I'm 734 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 7: glad we're doing it, but we're not doing anything to 735 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 7: prevent it in the first place. The disappointing piece of 736 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 7: not getting that OIG bill through. The governor at his 737 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 7: state of the state had said that he would, you know, 738 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 7: you pass a bill, put it on my desk, I'll 739 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 7: sign it. He did not do that because we couldn't 740 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 7: get Democrats in the House to pass the bill, even 741 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 7: though it was bipartisan in the Senate. So the fraud 742 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 7: in Minnesota has been now it's acknowledged thanks to the 743 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 7: US Attorney's Office and really drawing attention to it. 744 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 5: But it's multiple layers. 745 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 7: It's first how some of the programs were created, but 746 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 7: it's also the last of oversight as those dollars were 747 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 7: going out. So it's both ways, and you can try 748 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 7: to decide which is going to be the best way 749 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 7: to attack that. 750 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 5: It is going to be both. 751 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 7: We have to look at how the programs were created 752 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 7: and why and are they needed. Put in better checks 753 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 7: and balances there, but maybe getting rid of some of 754 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 7: those programs and. 755 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 5: Covering people in a way that would be a little 756 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 5: bit better. 757 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 4: We'll go just a little long on here, and I 758 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 4: will ask one more question. If you're elected as governor, 759 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: Lisa Damuth, what's the first thing you do relating to 760 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 4: the fraud issue. 761 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 7: Fraud is unacceptable here in the state of Minnesota. There 762 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 7: will be internal when where we're going to work on 763 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 7: policies coming forward as we go through, but we've got 764 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 7: to have policies that would support ending fraud and not 765 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 7: just trying to prosecute it. 766 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 4: At the end, and people want to find out more 767 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 4: about your campaign. 768 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: Where do they head? 769 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 8: Lisa Daemuth dot com, thank you so much for coming 770 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 8: to studio this morning. 771 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 772 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, especially on this post election day, so I 773 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 4: know you got to busy, a busy week and a 774 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: busy time ahead of you, but I appreciate you taking 775 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 4: some time out this morning. 776 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. 777 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 4: John all right, coming up, in hour three, Liz Collin 778 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 4: from Alfnoons will be joining us, so she'll be on 779 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: right around eight thirty this morning. I do want to 780 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 4: go back to what Trump had said regarding Snap funds 781 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 4: and speaking of Snap, is there another potential fraud story 782 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 4: emerging in Snap benefits here in Minnesota. 783 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: I'll give you some details next coming up 784 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 4: On Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and one 785 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 4: oh three five FM