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Speaker 1: on the show on seven hundred w W. Because I
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Speaker 1: Sloany and this morning. And this effects all of us too.
Speaker 1: By the way, I just tell you a story about
Speaker 1: social media and how they fed all the clickbait and
Speaker 1: all this nonsense you read on social media into AI chatbots,
Speaker 1: and it actually made aichat ai dummer and more angry,
Speaker 1: which is it's measurable. That's computer imaginement's doing us. And
Speaker 1: of all the things that keep you awakened. That may
Speaker 1: be one thing. Some sixty to seventy million Americans have
Speaker 1: chronic sleep deprivation, Twenty two of us have sleep apnea.
Speaker 1: Twenty two million people have sleep apnea Insomnia effects. About
Speaker 1: a third of the population and third of adults in
Speaker 1: four and ten say they often feel or fall asleep
Speaker 1: at work. And if you're a truck driver, that's really concerning.
Speaker 1: Some jobs you probably can get away with. There are
Speaker 1: times where I've admittedly fall asleep during the show and
Speaker 1: no one noticed. But truck drivers that is bad. You're
Speaker 1: flying an airplane bad. You're probably in somebody's heart doing surgery. Bad.
Speaker 1: Talk show, not so much. Sonjay Shaiva Crimani's on the
Speaker 1: show This Morning's in the Air Physician at Doctor Sonjay
Speaker 1: Sincy with a y or. He intersects the worlds of
Speaker 1: food and health and fitness and jumps in the show
Speaker 1: This Morning in studio this morning. How are you a coach?
Speaker 1: How you doing doing well? Thanks for having I'm doing good,
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in this morning. Okay, so you're an
Speaker 1: your air physician in Cincinnati, but you're also you're in
Speaker 1: the fitness realm as well. You hear the story and
Speaker 1: you probably see it a lot of sleep apnea presents,
Speaker 1: and we know that you can get some very serious illness.
Speaker 1: You can die from sleep apna. How much how many
Speaker 1: undiagnosed the twenty two million, how many of those do
Speaker 1: you think are undiagnosed? Like the bulk of them.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably the bulk. So I mean, to
Speaker 2: have the diagnosis, you kind of have to see a doctor,
Speaker 2: have the studies done right. Right. And some people, you know,
Speaker 2: are just getting slapped in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: by their partner in bed, being like you're snoring, when
Speaker 2: it's actually it's something more serious than that, specifically sleep APNA.
Speaker 1: Or you just go into another bedroom of the couch exactly,
Speaker 1: you can't stand it.
Speaker 2: That's a new thing. It's sleep divorce. Yeah, you've heard
Speaker 2: of this thing. Yeah, yeah, that's a big deal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so people are starting to do that. But it's not
Speaker 2: like divorcing because of sleep. It's just sleeping in separate areas.
Speaker 2: But that might actually be your clue that maybe there's
Speaker 2: something else going on other than you just can't sleep
Speaker 2: well without the person or you can't stand your partner
Speaker 2: like it could be something worse.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get how much how much of these sleep
Speaker 1: problems that we have in America and affects most all
Speaker 1: of us. I mean, they say get between eight you know,
Speaker 1: eight hours of sleep? Is that an actual goal? Is
Speaker 1: that a hard fast number? Is it different for different people?
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty solid number. So seven to eight
Speaker 1: hours is what we're shooting for. Something less than seven
Speaker 1: does start adding up. In fact, your performance in general
Speaker 1: kind of decreases over time. So I actually went to
Speaker 1: this Ted talk several years ago and the guy said,
Speaker 1: you know, the first four hours of sleep is just
Speaker 1: to restore your body. That's all you're doing. You're repairing
Speaker 1: your body. But the next four hours is where your
Speaker 1: brain regenerates. So like all that emotional stuff that you
Speaker 1: need to face your day, you need to face the
Speaker 1: struggles of your day, the challenges, like, that's what you
Speaker 1: get in the next four hours, and you need those
Speaker 1: next four hours, all of it to be your best
Speaker 1: in those emotional situations. So yeah, we can survive, but
Speaker 1: we are not the best versions of ourselves while we're
Speaker 1: just surviving. If we're getting four to six hours of sleep,
Speaker 1: it's ours seven and eight where we really get like
Speaker 1: the maximum benefit can you make that up in the
Speaker 1: weekend when some people go working really hard. And then
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're an eer doc, so you
Speaker 1: were crazy. Do you sleep for like twelve hours? Is that?
Speaker 1: Can you?
Speaker 2: That would be a healthy right, excuse the pun, if
Speaker 2: you can do that like a college. So the whole
Speaker 2: idea of like banking sleep and getting it, there's there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of benefit there, but it's not as
Speaker 2: much as we think. It's the it's the daily kind
Speaker 2: of thing we need to get and this is one
Speaker 2: of those Yeah, you just nailed it. Like as an
Speaker 2: er doc, my my schedule is crazy. It's days, it's nights,
Speaker 2: it's weekends, it's all over the place. And so that's
Speaker 2: why I hold sleep such in such importance in my
Speaker 2: life because it's it's not good, but it is literally
Speaker 2: the foundation of my well being and everything else. It
Speaker 2: is the number one thing. And you can ask my fiance.
Speaker 2: I'm almost obsessive about my sleep, right, But I need
Speaker 2: to be because it's thrown off so often that I
Speaker 2: have to do whatever I can to maximize it so
Speaker 2: I can be my best in every realm in my life.
Speaker 1: And it's more like a shift work because you're you
Speaker 1: know you're not. Hey, I'm not nine to five, yer, Doc. No,
Speaker 1: it's where they need you in different times and for
Speaker 1: twelve hours at a time, right, or maybe longer in
Speaker 1: some cases. But that's true for a lot of people
Speaker 1: who work second third shift. They wrote a cops do that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and it affects you over time. A lot
Speaker 2: of people love working nights for for good reason. It's
Speaker 2: usual a cooler vibe, right, But turning around or sleeping
Speaker 2: during the day, it's just not what our bodies were
Speaker 2: built to do. And overtime that wears on us. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's studies out there that you know, if you're if
Speaker 2: you're a night shift worker, you literally die earlier than
Speaker 2: people who were dacious, right. And I've known this my
Speaker 2: entire career, and I'm just like, oh, I just accept it,
Speaker 2: and now I'm doing what i can to like die
Speaker 2: a little later, I guess.
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, well you know what I mean. Look,
Speaker 1: we're going at a time a year now, son, Jay,
Speaker 1: where you don't see the sun, and if you work
Speaker 1: thirds like I did that for a while, you literally
Speaker 1: you don't see the sun at all. Ever. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we know that has a big, big effect on the
Speaker 1: sleep cycles ir Katie rhythms exactly, so like when when
Speaker 1: you wake up. So the whole thing is people oftentimes
Speaker 1: say watch your blue light at night before you go
Speaker 1: to bed, and that's a that's a whole thing, or
Speaker 1: being exposed to light in the last couple hours before
Speaker 1: you go to bed, but they're actually finding also the
Speaker 1: morning time daylight is really important, so like within an hour,
Speaker 1: getting ten to fifteen minutes of light exposure in that hour.
Speaker 1: But if it's dark outside, if you got one of
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati winters, you're not going to see the sun
Speaker 1: necessary if you're sleeping all day. And so it does
Speaker 1: affect the night shift workers over time. And it initially
Speaker 1: you may not feel it or if you're young, but
Speaker 1: as we get older, it really starts adding up. What
Speaker 1: about one of those happy lights. I've got one of those,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. In the winter, sometimes I'll plug
Speaker 1: it in at my desk or whatever and it throws
Speaker 1: out simulates the sun. Does that work? Does that do anything?
Speaker 2: It's something, It does a little something. It's not as
Speaker 2: great as being out in nature, being exposed to the
Speaker 2: to the elements, but at the same time you'd be
Speaker 2: exposing yourself to the elements, and so it's like fifteen
Speaker 2: degrees outside.
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, go go hit the light. Why do we
Speaker 1: do this? I mean you just hit on two things.
Speaker 1: You want that sunlight, that natural sunlight early in the morning.
Speaker 1: Why not make an alarm clock that has a light
Speaker 1: hooked up to it and it gradually comes on and
Speaker 1: lights up the room? What about that?
Speaker 2: It's got your billion dollar idea has already been invented
Speaker 2: over and over again.
Speaker 1: But but I had something again, But no, it exists.
Speaker 2: I forget the brand names for it, but they definitely exist,
Speaker 2: and they slowly come on and slowly wake you up.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, the smallest shred of light will have
Speaker 2: me up and eyes open. So like, it's not great
Speaker 2: for me, but it works for some people.
Speaker 1: Say Shave of Carimani's on the show. He's our physician
Speaker 1: at doctor Sonjay Sincy and an expert in fitness and
Speaker 1: food and health and fil We're talking about sleep this morning,
Speaker 1: which is a big deal. Most of us don't get
Speaker 1: the necessary seven to eight hours if you're getting sad.
Speaker 1: I'm like a seven guy myself, so I think I'm okay,
Speaker 1: but I know it's too the older you get, you
Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night and you're
Speaker 1: up for like two or three hour feels like you're
Speaker 1: up for hours, right, Yeah, what is that? Why has
Speaker 1: that happened?
Speaker 2: So the brain starts getting I mean, you're just getting old, Sloan,
Speaker 2: that's what it is. So your your brain starts.
Speaker 1: Telling me about it because I'm limping around the studio
Speaker 1: just getting off crutches. Yeah, no, kidd and thanks. You
Speaker 1: and me both are broken ankles. Job, Migel. It's fine.
Speaker 2: But overtime, so when we're young, our brain knows what
Speaker 2: to do, and over time our brain kind of forgets
Speaker 2: what to do and how to sync with the cycle
Speaker 2: of life. That's what that's what the current thought is.
Speaker 2: So as we get older, our brain's like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, maybe I'm supposed to be
Speaker 2: awake right now, as opposed to our younger brain that
Speaker 2: is smarter. So yeah, we're just getting dark.
Speaker 1: It's dumb, and here we are thought it was something
Speaker 1: to it, like I'm so efficient at sleep, I only
Speaker 1: need four or five hours and I wake up and
Speaker 1: I awake for two or three But I remember seeing
Speaker 1: something son Jay years ago, a fascinating story about the
Speaker 1: history of sleep in how screwed up we got when
Speaker 1: electricity came on and you know, candle light things like,
Speaker 1: because it used to be hey, you and some goes
Speaker 1: down the fire, go to bed at five o'clock and
Speaker 1: then get up in the But people would sleep for
Speaker 1: four hours, get up, they'd make babies, they get the
Speaker 1: stuff ready to eat the next day, get some firewood going,
Speaker 1: and then they go to bed. They'd be up for
Speaker 1: a few hours and then go to bed for So
Speaker 1: because human history is a relatively small sliver of our existence,
Speaker 1: so modern history we're talking about here, we're like genetically
Speaker 1: wire to wake up in the middle of night some
Speaker 1: to some degree somewhat.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have a lot of evidence of
Speaker 2: all that stuff, but i'll tell you that. Like, what
Speaker 2: we've also found is different cultures need different amount of sleep.
Speaker 2: So like we say we need seven eight hours as humans,
Speaker 2: but it's actually kind of an American state. I don't
Speaker 2: know what other countries there are, but some countries actually
Speaker 2: require less sleep and you're okay, you're actually thriving at sex.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of weird. So maybe that was a
Speaker 2: different culture back then. Too, where you needed less sleep
Speaker 2: or needed to sleep in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2: But you know, like European culture with the siesta and everything,
Speaker 2: that that also works for them, and so it depends.
Speaker 2: But the kind of cumulative amount you need is seven
Speaker 2: or eight in today's world for the most part. Now
Speaker 2: that we're all becoming semi one culture because we're all
Speaker 2: plugged into the same.
Speaker 1: Stuff, right right, Okay, now that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: So we're also told, hey, you know you need a
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars mattress that cools and heats you unless
Speaker 1: you up and down all that stuff to get the
Speaker 1: best nice sleep in your life. Is that just marketings
Speaker 1: are some truth in that.
Speaker 2: There's definitely truth to it. I think you know, you
Speaker 2: got mattresses, you got supplements, you got all the other
Speaker 2: things out there. Mattress is important. I mean I definitely
Speaker 2: invested in a good mattress and a good pillow. But
Speaker 2: there's there's other things you can do, and specifically, you know,
Speaker 2: temperature of your room, which will a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't key in on. It's the light that we just
Speaker 2: talked about. And then it's consistency of sleep schedule, which
Speaker 2: coming from me, I, I mean do as I say,
Speaker 2: not as I do on that one, because I literally can't.
Speaker 2: But the the mattress quality is important. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're if you're sleeping on a bed of rocks and
Speaker 2: that's something new to you, it's not gonna it's not
Speaker 2: gonna turn out well.
Speaker 1: If you toss and turn son Jay, is that indicating
Speaker 1: indicating you a bad night's sleep or is it just
Speaker 1: your a toster return Because I'm a tous turn So.
Speaker 2: Are you a tosser and turner all night or is
Speaker 2: it a tosser and turner intermittently?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm sleeping. Yeah, hell what I
Speaker 1: know you're the doctor. Tell me. I asked a really
Speaker 1: good questions. Yeah, you definitely your flipping all over the place.
Speaker 2: So, so you know, our body goes through the cycles
Speaker 2: of sleep, and you know, we're light sleep, then we're
Speaker 2: deep sleep, and then there's the REM cycle where our
Speaker 2: brain goes a little wild. That's when our dreams happen.
Speaker 2: And as we go on further in the night, typically
Speaker 2: if we're if we're healthy, we'll have more and more
Speaker 2: REM cycles as the night goes on. And so it's
Speaker 2: not aotypical for you to be tossing and turning, especially
Speaker 2: like between if you're sleeping from eleven to seven, from
Speaker 2: three to seven, you're probably gonna be tossing more because
Speaker 2: you might toss more with your dreams because your brain's
Speaker 2: a little restless and doing all the rem things that
Speaker 2: it needs to do and having all the dreams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems I wake up, it'll be like a
Speaker 1: solid four hours and you wake up and then you
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom or whatever. And that's the other
Speaker 1: thing too, is you get older, you tend to go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's all you know, you and I, I
Speaker 2: mean for the whole my part where we're definitely the
Speaker 2: four hour wake up guys now and it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what I do. And now are their ankle bros. You know,
Speaker 2: with those injuries. I have a little more swelling in
Speaker 2: my ankle now than I used to. And so that
Speaker 2: just that's what goes in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: Wake up and go Should you just get up If
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I'm wide awake, I feel good. Should
Speaker 1: I just go up and do something and then come
Speaker 1: back to bed later. So it's a great point. You
Speaker 1: makes a long.
Speaker 2: So a lot of people are like, Oh, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna stay in bed, I'm gonna I'm gonna sleep, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna sleep, I'm gonna sleep. I'm gonna get back to sleep.
Speaker 2: But one of the best things you can do sometimes
Speaker 2: is get up and move around and change your environment
Speaker 2: just for a little bit and come back to bed.
Speaker 2: You don't want to necessarily like play video game or
Speaker 2: look at a screen or maybe even even look at
Speaker 2: an e eater. You just kind of want to move
Speaker 2: your environment a little bit. Don't eat, don't drink anything,
Speaker 2: but just move a little bit, come back to bed
Speaker 2: and try again, as opposed to just willing it to
Speaker 2: be just lying in bed, because when we force something
Speaker 2: like that, it just never turns out good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sanja Shava Karani is on his e our physician,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about health and fitness and well and sleep.
Speaker 1: It is a big thing. Especially we're going to have
Speaker 1: the time change here in a little bit. That always
Speaker 1: screws people up. Yep, you know, our gain, our lost whatever.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, your body still
Speaker 1: has to adjust to these whole things, and you may
Speaker 1: be getting up in the middle of night and you're
Speaker 1: tossing and turning. What does that mean to I need
Speaker 1: a better matress? Is the room comfortable? These things? And
Speaker 1: I'll come full circle on this because we were talking
Speaker 1: about how social media pollutes the brain, and they tested
Speaker 1: with AI in it. It's making AI dummer. If they
Speaker 1: feeded a steady dyet a clickbait, what does that say
Speaker 1: about me and you? I think that's the other thing
Speaker 1: is do most people who is you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about sleep apnean, We've talked about other reasons why people
Speaker 1: don't get a good night's sleep, But how much of
Speaker 1: this is by you know, just life baggage? You know,
Speaker 1: we're consuming news or online and reading all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and then you wake up and you start thinking about it,
Speaker 1: and then you have this fear and you start getting
Speaker 1: this cycle, this mental cycle, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that's where the I would say, you know, nighttime, that's
Speaker 1: when the demons come out in your head when it's quiet,
Speaker 1: and you start thinking fatalist things and horrible things. And
Speaker 1: how do you break that cycle? And how much does
Speaker 1: that contribute to what we're talking about?
Speaker 2: It is a great question because the two things that
Speaker 2: we're keying in on here is one the use of
Speaker 2: the phone in general. So you have blue light, you know,
Speaker 2: shooting into your eyeballs and it's waking up your brain
Speaker 2: while you're using it, and so we really want to
Speaker 2: turn that off literally at least one hour before bed
Speaker 2: with any like any device, tablets, phones, et cetera, to
Speaker 2: allow our brains to rest a little bit. And then
Speaker 2: you have the issue of well, the content of that
Speaker 2: and what it's doing to you and adding to your
Speaker 2: stress and anxiety, especially taking in world events, et cetera,
Speaker 2: but maybe even your own personal stuff. Right, your brain's
Speaker 2: just going and it is hard to calm down. And
Speaker 2: a lot of people say, you know, I got to
Speaker 2: read before I go to bed, or I got to
Speaker 2: get my news in before I go to bed, and
Speaker 2: it's actually working for me. You've probably conditioned your brain,
Speaker 2: like watching TV before bed, which a lot of people do.
Speaker 2: My best friend falls asleep watching TV every night. You
Speaker 2: probably condition your brain to say, oh, that's the TV.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to sleep now, Okay, right, but
Speaker 2: you're not going to get good sleep, so your brain's
Speaker 2: going to be kind of still going with all of
Speaker 2: that stuff, still processing it. And then you know, you'll
Speaker 2: have one of those middle of the.
Speaker 1: Night wake ups.
Speaker 2: Like you're talking about, everything's quiet, and that's the time
Speaker 2: when your brain shows up and has a party. And
Speaker 2: so it's really hard to fall asleep when there's stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, when you're taking in stuff right before you
Speaker 2: go to bed.
Speaker 1: You should tell my wife this because she'll sit there
Speaker 1: and scroll TikTok for like an hour, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: go put it down, and she's sleeping in thirty seconds
Speaker 1: and sleeps with straight eight hours.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's superhumans among us. They're superhumans out there,
Speaker 2: and I am definitely not one of them.
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I get my iPad. But I'm
Speaker 1: reading a book, yeah, you know, and something that's like history,
Speaker 1: or I'm reading a book about George Remis from Cincinnati
Speaker 1: here of all things. And yeah, it takes you know,
Speaker 1: for me, I like a half a chapter and fall asleep.
Speaker 1: So I try to find boring topics and things like
Speaker 1: that and not to get all worked up and just
Speaker 1: you know, fall.
Speaker 2: There's two ways as far as content goes. So my
Speaker 2: fiance was reading this boring book and literally she read
Speaker 2: two lines every night and she out and it was
Speaker 2: you know, it was this like really scientific book, and she.
Speaker 1: Works.
Speaker 2: But I prefer actually reading fiction on a on like
Speaker 2: a Kindle e reader, so you get a little less
Speaker 2: blue light coming out, but there's still some lights are out.
Speaker 2: And I read fiction because it just sends me into
Speaker 2: like fantasy worlds.
Speaker 1: Ok, and I'm in a dream zone. Now.
Speaker 2: Some people will say that you readers do admit, well,
Speaker 2: they do. They emit some light, so you're kind of
Speaker 2: affecting yourself a little bit. So, but you know what's
Speaker 2: the other way you're going to do it is have
Speaker 2: a light above your head right, and that's hitting them
Speaker 2: book and now it's hitting your eyebo.
Speaker 1: Like the dark background with the light white light right
Speaker 1: is exactly like that. That mode or whatever.
Speaker 2: You definitely want nightmode if you're using like one of
Speaker 2: those fancy tablets e readers as opposed to like the Kindle.
Speaker 1: You know, where are you on melatonin? I So I
Speaker 1: think we're using too much melotone? Right?
Speaker 2: So the effective dose is like zero point three to
Speaker 2: zero point five literally, and people are dropping like twenty
Speaker 2: milligrams a night, and you know it's okay. There you
Speaker 2: get to a plateau point where it's just not as effective.
Speaker 2: So what melatonin does for us is it says it's nighttime,
Speaker 2: and that's all it does. It doesn't say I'm going
Speaker 2: to keep you asleep or anything like that. It just
Speaker 2: sets your clock and says it's nighttime. Great for like
Speaker 2: if you've been working nights or if your sleep's been
Speaker 2: off a little bit, just to use sparingly every now
Speaker 2: and then. Now I use melotone in kind of a
Speaker 2: combination with a couple other things a couple of times,
Speaker 2: maybe one or two times a week, but it's usually
Speaker 2: when I'm flipping or I haven't had a good sleep
Speaker 2: and my body's just thrown off for a.
Speaker 1: Wheit it's fine. I'm more frequent than that. I probably
Speaker 1: should back it up, but I but again, I've known,
Speaker 1: so I take like it's like a three milligram chewable
Speaker 1: that was too much for me? I would I like
Speaker 1: take a third of that? Yeah? And where'd you feel
Speaker 1: it was too much? What time of the day? I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I didn't want to wake up, Like
Speaker 1: I don't feel rested, Like maybe it's too much of
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I so I have about a twelve hour period that
Speaker 2: I have to give myself where I'm going to be
Speaker 2: awake again. Yeah, because I'm going to be groggy as hell.
Speaker 2: If I take something even one and a half milligrams,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be groggy afterwards. So you kind of
Speaker 2: want to take it a little bit earlier. Now the
Speaker 2: packaging will say twenty to thirty minutes before you sleep.
Speaker 2: I give myself a little more time if I'm only
Speaker 2: going to be sleeping eight hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now you really want to sleep? You know,
Speaker 1: some some NQ will four or five of those talamol
Speaker 1: pms and a half like a fifth of Jim Beeman.
Speaker 1: You're good. You sleep like not doctor for baby, like
Speaker 1: a baby. That's just all right, Doctor Sonjay, he's our
Speaker 1: physician health food fitness at doctor Sanjay Sincy with why
Speaker 1: two whys in there? And thanks for coming to this far.
Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you. I love the I
Speaker 1: love the intersection of medicine and health and just common
Speaker 1: sense kind of stuff there. Yeah. I appreciate the timesloan.
Speaker 2: It's just it is all one to me, and it
Speaker 2: all kind of feeds into each other back and forth.
Speaker 2: You know, having a better life while you're away equals
Speaker 2: make you sleep better.
Speaker 1: Question versus yeah, it all. It's all health to me,
Speaker 1: all right, goodness, So we'll do this's on the regular
Speaker 1: I think anyway, Doctor Sanjay, thanks again. We got to
Speaker 1: get to a news update. The NBA has apparently falling apart.
Speaker 1: We have the mobsters, my people, Laclos and Ostra, Tony Soprano,
Speaker 1: all those guys involved in the NBA. What details seconds
Speaker 1: away here seven hundred WWT, Cincinnati,