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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Penn Station. As we get underway here

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Speaker 2: our number three, ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk Bearcats. A huge one at Nipperts Stadium on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Bearcat basketball plays on Sunday, and then of course a

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Speaker 2: huge matchup against Louisville at Heritage Banks Arena next Friday night,

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Speaker 2: and then BYU comes into town. So picking up here

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Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bearcats. So let's spend time talking about

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Speaker 2: said Bearcats. Austin's favorite, my second favorite, Nickoson. It's Keegan

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Speaker 2: Nickoson joining us right now from Bearcat Jenneral Hi Kegan.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Tony Keg.

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Speaker 2: And you sound healthy, you sound well, You sound much

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Speaker 2: better than the flu game that you had to push through.

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Speaker 3: Well that that's ironic because I actually had food poisoning yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm really. Uh, my recovery rate is very

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Speaker 3: good in terms of them being out for a day.

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Speaker 3: But I'm doing solid.

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Speaker 4: Do you know, like what it was that you ate?

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Speaker 4: You don't have to give like a name brand or anything,

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Speaker 4: but do you know what it was?

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Speaker 3: There's no one in this world I fear more than

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Speaker 3: Zack Stipe, So I'm not going to bring it up.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that and run.

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Speaker 3: Kagan.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about what was at fitth third Arena

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Speaker 2: against the Dayton Flyers, because I feel like you could

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Speaker 2: be on both sides of this one. Sloppy twenty four turnovers,

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Speaker 2: Dayton makes seven percent of their threes, but on the

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Speaker 2: other end, you still find a way to win the

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Speaker 2: game by twelve points, and talking about a win while

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Speaker 2: having things to fix is a lot better than a loss.

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Speaker 2: How did you view the I would say, how do

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Speaker 2: you view the effort that you saw from this Bearcat

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Speaker 3: I think you see was just the better team at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day. I think they were bigger

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Speaker 3: and better And basically I would say every facet except

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Speaker 3: for turnovers. And you know, if you want to put

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Speaker 3: a spin zone on it, you can say, well, we

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Speaker 3: know the one thing they have to work on over

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Speaker 3: three games because the turnovers have been like that kind

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Speaker 3: of really bright flashing warning sign, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: it's mainly due to the fast pace that they're playing with.

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Speaker 3: It's different than what u SE's played with in the

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Speaker 3: past two years. And Wes Miller is not someone who

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Speaker 3: is going to see the struggles with the pace and

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Speaker 3: then kind of changed course. He sounds like he's really

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Speaker 3: committed to it. So it's definitely something that they have

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Speaker 3: to flesh out with that kind of increased chemistry. But

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Speaker 3: maybe the turnovers are just something that it's not going

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Speaker 3: to be twenty four is I think company they had

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Speaker 3: against Stayton. It's not going to be like that every night.

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Speaker 3: But that could be a weak spot for this team.

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Speaker 3: But when you get to that eight minute mark of

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Speaker 3: the second half and you're wearing down the opposition, that's

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Speaker 3: when they can kind of take over. And that's what

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Speaker 3: you saw against Dayton. So they played well. I think

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Speaker 3: they shot it pretty well when they actually couldn't shoot

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Speaker 3: at some point they had turned it over in twenty

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Speaker 3: or fifty possessions, which isn't great, but you know they

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Speaker 3: I think they were just more talented.

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Speaker 2: The talent level is high on this team. What do

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Speaker 2: you make of the style in which they've been able

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Speaker 2: to play through the first three Again, the level of

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Speaker 2: competition will pick up, but it does feel like a

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Speaker 2: team last year they were just searching. At times, you

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Speaker 2: could see the possession unfolding where there wasn't much ball movement.

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Speaker 2: It became a rough shot at the end. I thought

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Speaker 2: at times against Dayton they might have had one or

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Speaker 2: two passes too many. But it does feel different the

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Speaker 2: if it's not there. They do share the ball.

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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, there's a lot of ball movement, definitely more

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Speaker 3: And that really starts with per Crisa. And you even

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Speaker 3: that they aren't. But I think when you talk about talent,

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Speaker 3: can be. Sham's kind of struggled a little bit, at

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Speaker 3: don't know how anyone shoots over That guy hasn't raped

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Speaker 3: start to see that kind of increases he gets more comfortable.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, those three are great. Kerkkrisa been really good.

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Speaker 3: And then another guy who isn't getting into a lot

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Speaker 3: and he hits those few threes and big spots, and

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Speaker 2: Is there anything you can do personally keeking to help

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Speaker 3: You know, I really don't think so. You kind of

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Speaker 3: game plan, so you have to go somewhere else. Wes

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Speaker 3: Miller was actually talking about it at his radio show

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Speaker 3: did it against Dayton. The other time was in twenty twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So when you don't have that kind of consistency, maybe

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Speaker 2: I have to ask because this is always fascinating to me,

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Speaker 2: this team, like we saw Jordi Rodriguez and Keishan Tillery's

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Speaker 2: minutes were eliminated in the second half against Dayton, and

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Speaker 2: they did not play particularly well. Both had two turnovers

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Speaker 2: When all is said and done, What do you think

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Speaker 2: the ideal number is for a rotation in the Big

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Speaker 2: twelve to have the most success.

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Speaker 3: I think Wes has actually said before that the rotation

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Speaker 3: actually needs to grow instead of shrink when you get

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Speaker 3: the conference play. I think it needs to be around nine,

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Speaker 3: but that has to be nine guys who can really

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Speaker 3: sake of having a longer rotation that gives some guys

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Speaker 3: some breeders and some breaks. I think it's nine to ten,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I don't really know it's weird. I

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Speaker 3: worked for Uce. So yeah, I would go nine to ten.

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Speaker 2: The matchup against Louisville. Louisville's a great basketball team. We

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows Pat Kelsey's got a very talented team. How

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Speaker 2: far could a win next Friday go for Wes Miller

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Speaker 2: and this team and the trajectory because it feels like

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Speaker 2: one of those wins against an opponent that has just

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Speaker 2: eluded Wes Miller. You're essentially playing it at your back

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Speaker 2: yard heritage bank. But how far would it go to

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Speaker 2: for not only this team, but for Wes in general.

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Speaker 3: It would be absolutely huge. I think it would do

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Speaker 3: they're not ranked in the AP top twenty five. They're

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Speaker 3: it would do a ton. Louisville is legitimately a Final

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Speaker 3: Four contender. I mean, that's how good that team is.

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Speaker 3: it'd be a great thing to kind of get people

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Speaker 3: don't really know what this team's going to be, and

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Speaker 3: through three games we don't have that much more clarity.

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Speaker 3: We've got some kind of like you know, Shana Bay.

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Speaker 3: It's been pretty consistently good. Baba Miller could be one

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Speaker 3: of the better players in the entire Big Twelve. But

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Speaker 3: beating that Louisville team, especially in like an old rivalry

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Speaker 3: expect it to be close to fifty to fifty, if

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Speaker 3: at the very least sixty forty. With Louisville fans.

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Speaker 2: Talk a little bit, Let's let's switch to the football

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Speaker 2: side a few more minutes. You with Keegan nickoson Bearcat

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Speaker 2: journal dot com. Everyone asked over the bye, Keegan, what's

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Speaker 2: different about this year's team compared to last year's team,

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Speaker 2: the team that started five and two and then lost

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Speaker 2: their final five. I thought, I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: at times to get open. Brendan Swerzby didn't have his

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Speaker 2: best day. The special teams unit resorted back to what

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Speaker 2: couldn't get the stops when necessary. What gives you more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know about that game being a

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Speaker 2: Kegan, you're the best, well, you're the second best out

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Speaker 2: That awesome, awesome stuff.

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Speaker 2: We're always appreciating your time, man. I look forward to

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Speaker 2: Careful what you eat?

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Speaker 2: Thanks Keegan. That's Keegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot com.

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Speaker 4: That's that's cool man. How about that though, have you

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is since e three to sixty hour

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Speaker 5: I am doing very well, Tony, Thanks for having me today.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Absolutely, the world of football, we are always seeing

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Speaker 5: Do they have an injury to a neurovascular structure, because

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Speaker 5: we want to make sure that the patient gets sent

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Speaker 5: to the right place at the right time. Do we

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Speaker 5: need to send them to the hospital. Do they have

437
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Speaker 5: an injury to an artery? Do they have an injury

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Speaker 5: to a nerve, especially if you're traveling. You know, as

439
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Speaker 5: you know with collegiate or professional athletics, those doctors and

440
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 5: those athletic trainers could be on the road and they

441
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Speaker 5: may need to send them to an outside hospital to

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Speaker 5: be sure that the limb is okay.

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Speaker 2: So with Jadan Daniels a couple of weeks ago, obviously

444
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Speaker 2: the worry is at first how gruesome it looks, and

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Speaker 2: then you're making sure to test the ligament damage. And

446
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Speaker 2: for Jadan Daniels did not have any ligament damage, so

447
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Speaker 2: he avoided a seison ending injury. Obviously still going to

448
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: be out quite some time. But how different of a

449
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Speaker 2: rehab process, how much more severity are you adding if

450
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Speaker 2: there were ligament damage around that fracture?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when when guys dislocate their joints and

452
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Speaker 5: have ligament damage, typically that does occur. It's those fractures

453
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Speaker 5: that actually get a little bit more tricky in terms

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Speaker 5: of idiosyncrasies associated with do you need surgery? Do you

455
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Speaker 5: not need surgery? But thankfully, when guys have the dislocation

456
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Speaker 5: and do not end up with any sort of ligamentous

457
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Speaker 5: injury that would affect their position. You know, because we're

458
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Speaker 5: personalizing this with everybody time and place, you know, what's

459
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Speaker 5: your position, What do you need to do to compete?

460
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Speaker 5: What do you need to do to compete at the

461
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Speaker 5: highest level. But I would say a good timeline associated

462
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Speaker 5: with the dislocation is first getting the range of motion

463
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Speaker 5: back over the next cup, over the first few weeks,

464
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Speaker 5: getting the swelling down, and then getting their strength back

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Speaker 5: over the next few weeks after that, and typically we're

466
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Speaker 5: looking at four to six weeks on on most dislocations

467
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Speaker 5: that do not require surgery.

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Speaker 2: When you're talking about getting back, I think one of

469
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Speaker 2: the unique things with injuries, there are some injuries that

470
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Speaker 2: feel like you run the risk of re injuring that

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Speaker 2: same area, and there are some injuries you're healed and

472
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Speaker 2: you never think about it again. When you talk about

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Speaker 2: a fracture, you talk about something as we're discussing here,

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Speaker 2: is there a inherent risk at suffering some type of

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Speaker 2: re injury at some point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another great question when we look at guys

477
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Speaker 5: that play contact sports like football, because you know, they're basically,

478
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 5: you know, getting into a car accident multiple times during

479
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Speaker 5: the game, and they're.

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Speaker 3: Putting their bodies at risk.

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Speaker 5: When we're talking about fractures, I think we usually try

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Speaker 5: to dicotomize them between you know, weight bearing and non

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Speaker 5: weight bearing. You know, is it part of your extremity

484
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Speaker 5: that you're running on or is this more a situation

485
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Speaker 5: where it's a smaller bone like a finger. And I

486
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Speaker 5: think all of them run the risk of being reinjured.

487
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Speaker 5: And then I think it just depends upon you know,

488
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Speaker 5: risk to the player and what they're willing to undergo

489
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Speaker 5: to get back onto the field. But you see it

490
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Speaker 5: all the time and guys they break their collarbone, they

491
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Speaker 5: go back too soon and then they rebreak it. Or

492
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Speaker 5: we see guys with a fibula fracture down at their

493
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Speaker 5: foot or ankle area and they break that and then

494
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 5: they're back in six weeks and they're good to go.

495
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Speaker 5: So we try to personalize it again based upon sort

496
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Speaker 5: of the what the risk is and then what does

497
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Speaker 5: that mean if they rebreak it? Does that mean then

498
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Speaker 5: they're going to need surgery and then they're going to

499
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Speaker 5: be out the season.

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Speaker 3: So it's a balance.

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Speaker 2: I know there are some injuries that you take on

502
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Speaker 2: and you can maybe even play before you're back to

503
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. You could pad it up, you could

504
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Speaker 2: play with some type of brace, depending on obviously where

505
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: the fracture or the dislocation would happen. Is this the

506
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Speaker 2: type of injury that you could protect in a certain

507
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Speaker 2: way and get back for a quarterback, Let's let's say

508
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Speaker 2: a right handed quarterback that hurts his left arm, or

509
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Speaker 2: are you making sure it's one hundred percent healthy before

510
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Speaker 2: you're getting back out there.

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Speaker 5: So, in my opinion and in my experience, I would say,

512
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Speaker 5: especially with these higher level athletes, that when you get

513
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Speaker 5: into the NFL, they want to be out there. A

514
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Speaker 5: lot of these guys just love playing the game and

515
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 5: it's what they've dreamed of doing and are really trying

516
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Speaker 5: to be a great of about trying to get it

517
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Speaker 5: back on the field. And even in the all the

518
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Speaker 5: way down to the high school athletes, you know, sometimes

519
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Speaker 5: as medical professionals, the athletic trainers and the doctors, you know,

520
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: we're protecting them from their cells, from themselves as much

521
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Speaker 5: as anything else. In regard specifically to an elbow injury

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Speaker 5: like that that you're describing, I would say, you know,

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Speaker 5: even in the throwing arm, that would be a pretty

524
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Speaker 5: low likelihood that you would redislocate it once it kind

525
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 5: of heals up over the first couple of weeks. So

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Speaker 5: as long as they can compete in their position and

527
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Speaker 5: protect themselves out on the field. I would be pretty

528
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Speaker 5: bullish about getting that quarterback back onto the field.

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Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, man, Brian, this was so helpful for us.

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Speaker 2: We can't thank you enough for your time. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: certainly the University of Cincinnati and Novacare and again thank

532
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Speaker 2: you for your time. I look forward to catching up

533
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: again soon.

534
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Speaker 4: Thanks, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Have a great day.

536
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely that is Brian Growie with our good friends at Novacare.

537
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Speaker 2: From traveling to the game, walking to your seats, and

538
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Speaker 2: are taking in postgame celebration, your body can take a

539
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Speaker 2: beating from all the activity on game day At Novacare Rehabilitation.

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541
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Speaker 2: you from the game. Find a center near you at

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Speaker 2: novacare dot com. Today we're moving right along. Cinty three

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Speaker 2: to sixty hour three on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Cincy three sixty thanks to Penn Station. On

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks for listening, Thanks

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Speaker 2: for being a part of our afternoon here each and

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Speaker 2: every day, Friday Edition. Sad to say, Austin, we don't

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Speaker 2: get Tommy g tomorrow. I'm told load management, load management

552
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: season for Tommy Gen Tomasclaric.

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Speaker 4: All right, he's earned it, all right, he's earned it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can't make fun of him. I say

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Speaker 4: it took a whole week off earlier, like last month,

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Speaker 4: two weeks, I think a couple of weeks. So now

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Speaker 4: I'm paying for it, and many ways? What else we

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00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: got going on today?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 6: In a few minutes, I'm going to go to my

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Speaker 6: notes here, see what else I had written down? What

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Speaker 6: are you doing the rest of your afternoon? What's that

563
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Speaker 6: look like?

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Speaker 2: It's a nice day outside, whether you know, you get

565
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Speaker 2: to enjoy a little bit of the weather.

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Speaker 4: No, okay, go down the hall and produce another show?

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Speaker 4: Then what on another station?

568
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: Then what?

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Speaker 4: And then I'm gonna go home, and you know, I'll

570
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Speaker 4: be honest. I neglected my apartment a little bit, so

571
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Speaker 4: that EASi to be cleaned up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And.

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Speaker 4: After that, I I'm just wait for football to come on.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

575
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Speaker 4: I might play some video games. I've been playing Battlefield

576
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Speaker 4: six with my friends, so.

577
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Speaker 2: You're done with Uh, you're done with Madden your Madden League.

578
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: Over hell on a bye week. Oh yeah, we're nine

579
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Speaker 4: and one at the bye week. Okay, yeah, okay, just

580
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: disposed of a couple of good teams. You know, you

581
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Speaker 4: got to be careful when you don't address things at

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Speaker 4: the house for a while. Mary and I have done

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Speaker 4: that for I think since we moved in, basically to

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Speaker 4: where like I have a pile of clothes. Yeah, that

585
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Speaker 4: are clean, but they're just kind of laid there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Mayor Mayor has this thing since we've moved in,

588
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: we just had we we we brought way too much junk.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of what they call a horder. Oh Mayor

590
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Speaker 2: is not. I wish mayors not. She despises the hoarding.

591
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't throw stuff away. And I think since we

592
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Speaker 2: moved into our home, Mayor has done two things. She's

593
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Speaker 2: constantly looking at houses and what other houses do to

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Speaker 2: their interiors. Sure, and then like once, I would say

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Speaker 2: every other week for probably two years, she has texted

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Speaker 2: me about getting a dumpster for our yard to just

597
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Speaker 2: throw crap away.

598
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: And I.

599
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Speaker 2: Finally broke down and got a dumpster. And you know

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Speaker 2: what today is dumpster day. Oh so you got to

601
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Speaker 2: go clean the house out. Oh my gosh, I'm not

602
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. We have we have two main areas,

603
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: so our basement, like our storage in the basement is

604
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Speaker 2: full of garbage, not like food guard like just stuff

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Speaker 2: we don't use anymore in our garage. I'm not worried

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Speaker 2: about the garage, but the stuff in the basement that

607
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Speaker 2: you're gonna like carry up steps and out the front door,

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Speaker 2: I don't even I don't want to do it today.

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Speaker 4: I know that you have a nice piece of Ohio

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Speaker 4: state memorabilia that might already be in the dumpster in

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Speaker 4: your basement. Yes, that doesn't have a place on the wall.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 6: I'll take it off your hands. Okay, it might be

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Speaker 6: the thing dumpsterday. Let this be my contribution.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well your contribution would probably be coming over and

616
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Speaker 2: help loading the dumpster.

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Speaker 4: Well I have to be paid to do that.

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Speaker 2: You'd be paid with memorabilia. Oh it's bad. Like you

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Speaker 2: send a couple of text out like family members and

620
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Speaker 2: they just none of them text back. Yeah, no, hell okay,

621
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Speaker 2: if anyone's got any time, and then it's just islands.

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Speaker 2: You don't hear a thing from anybody.

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Speaker 4: I do have one. This day in sports history it

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Speaker 4: out are you ready for? It was on this day

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Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy oh that the Sydney Yellow Jackets completed

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Speaker 4: their run of dominance oh thirty consecutive victories. The Yellow

627
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Speaker 4: Jackets and the seniors in that class didn't lose in

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Speaker 4: the eighth grade, so they went something like forty games

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Speaker 4: in a row. That's crazy without loving, that is insane.

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Speaker 4: So today, right now, Sydney Memorial Stadium thirty and Oh

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Speaker 4: Field is where all the games are played, named after

632
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Speaker 4: those great teams and Field.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is Sydney Memorial Stadium thirty and Oh Field,

635
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. And it's uh down.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's got to be a lot. No, Sydney Stadium,

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Speaker 2: Sydney Memorial thirty and Oh Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Thirty Field, Oh my god. Sydney Memorial Stadium, thirty and

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Speaker 4: Oh Field. Okay, what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? Honor the legacy live in the present. Man. That

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00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: would never happen at Veterans Memorial Stadium. Yeah, you're just

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Speaker 2: talking about veterans. Oh, we weren't talking about what the

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00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 2: teams did and this and that just anyway. Congratulations, Happy anniversary.

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Speaker 2: This day in.

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Speaker 4: Sports history, shout out to the Shout out to Sydney

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Speaker 4: Man seventy team who went to Sydney Memorial thirty and

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Speaker 4: Oh Fields. No Sydney Memorial Stadium at thirty and oh Field.

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Speaker 4: It's like Geha Field at Arrowhead.

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Speaker 2: YEP, I got it now. Yeah, I'm gonna use that

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Speaker 2: going forward.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we've gotten thirty wins since nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: Moe is waiting to join us for quick hits next

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Speaker 3: Was looking for Mo.

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Speaker 2: Moe's in the house. He's getting ready for the Mullagger Show.

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. How you doing, Mo,

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Speaker 2: I'm really good. I'm really good. How about you guys? Okay?

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Speaker 6: Are you can turn the ball? Jalen Brunson? I am

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Speaker 6: any good report yet he was seen exiting Madison Square

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Speaker 6: Garden wearing crutches. He should not have been in the

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Speaker 6: game when he got hurt. They should have pulled him.

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Speaker 6: Next those last night, first time at home all year long?

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Speaker 2: Next have lost bulls have lost a lot. Yeah, Shine's

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Speaker 2: coming off that a little bit as well. So nothing

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Speaker 2: from you guys about my big news on LinkedIn having

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Speaker 2: an back LinkedIn yet? Just what happened?

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Speaker 4: Are you something about employee of the year something?

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Speaker 6: I have been named vice president of strategic content for

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Speaker 6: the Moegger Show. Really yeah, who's the president? Well we

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Speaker 6: haven't figured that out yet. Okay, we did get a

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Speaker 6: talkback from you.

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Speaker 2: Oh can we just share someone is going through audio

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Speaker 2: clips of you. This is the second time he's done

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Speaker 2: it and putting together conversations and talk back for him.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear this. This is Mike and

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Speaker 2: Independence here with talkback.

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Speaker 3: MO.

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Speaker 6: Well, pour water into our hands and drink it like

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Speaker 6: you're in a lake or something.

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Speaker 2: Oh you have a cup? Not not now, actual cups?

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Speaker 2: What about all those cups in the closet.

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Speaker 3: We have cups?

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Speaker 6: I will I will probably not outlive our cup supply.

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Speaker 2: That's how many cups we have.

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Speaker 4: And it is glorious, just over the sheer volume of cups.

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Speaker 4: And I just I wanted to get that out of

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Speaker 4: the way.

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Speaker 2: This gentleman is just randomly going through and splicing conversations

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Speaker 2: you've had. So maybe that's your content guy, what's it

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Speaker 2: could be? He could be the president of strategic content,

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Speaker 2: not just content.

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Speaker 4: Into this all right. We also had a talkbacker today

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Speaker 4: mode that wanted to congratulate you for being named a

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Speaker 4: finalist for the Tony Pikes iHeartMedia Employee of the Year Award.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm pretty I'm pretty stoked about this. We find

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Speaker 6: out on December the third at the Christmas party here

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Speaker 6: if I've won the award.

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Speaker 2: I told you yesterday I've been nominated twice. Who's won

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Speaker 2: of the previous years.

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Speaker 6: Oh, Ryan Seacrest won it one year and Clay Travis. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: so I'm I'm do you know who you're up against?

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Speaker 2: I haven't really.

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Speaker 6: Seen everybody that I'm up against, but it's a it's

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Speaker 6: a prestigious uh US. They're waiting to see if the

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Speaker 6: people who have been nominated are still work here.

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, don guys, what you got on your show today.

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Speaker 6: Let's see, we're gonna talk about Saturday. We were just

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Speaker 6: having this conversation off here. You see plays BYU a

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Speaker 6: week from Saturday. A lot of folks seemingly glossing over

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Speaker 6: the fact that Bearcats do have a game this Saturday

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Speaker 6: against Arizona. I am worried about this game because I

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Speaker 6: hated how the Bearcats played against Utah. Now you could say,

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Speaker 6: well the Utes remember bad matchup? Yeah, terrible match When

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Speaker 6: a team loses, bad matchup, Okay, I thought the Bearcats

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Speaker 6: got in their own way. I am concerned that that

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Speaker 6: is going to be the norm moving forward. I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of folks are overlooking Arizona. We're going to

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Speaker 6: spend some time on that. I want to know if

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Speaker 6: al Golden can satisfy a very basic request, very basic

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Speaker 6: and simple request. I will tell you what that request is,

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Speaker 6: and I'm gonna see if I can get a job

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Speaker 6: on the Reds coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's it's not the hardest thing to do.

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Speaker 6: The Reds have fifteen coaches listed on their coaching staff.

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Speaker 6: They have an assistant bench coach.

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Speaker 2: Got to use that money somewhere.

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Speaker 6: What does the assistant is assistant bench coach like euphemism

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Speaker 6: for bat boy. What is the assistant bench coach too?

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Speaker 6: We're paying Terry francona like five million dollars. He's got

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Speaker 6: a bench coach. Okay, assistant bench coach? Does he keep

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Speaker 6: book the bench the bubblegum bucket? So I hear a

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Speaker 6: lot about job numbers and the economy is not great.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what job market's really good if you're

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Speaker 6: a baseball coach anywhere near Cincinnati. So we'll riff on

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Speaker 6: that a little bit too. Plus, uh, Lee Starling is

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Speaker 6: gonna join us money Chad Brendle, Robert wine Troup, Dan Klaskins,

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Speaker 6: Jay Morrison, and we're gonna talk about Joe Burrow with

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Speaker 6: one of the experts from Ortho Sincy as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you make of the NFL wanting the

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Speaker 2: union to stop with the report cards?

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Speaker 6: As many have speculated and said, rich people don't like

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Speaker 6: being made fun of.

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Speaker 2: Crazy right now? Crazy If if you don't.

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Speaker 6: Want failing grades, don't fail, right, If you don't want

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Speaker 6: an F from your players, would he? And if you

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Speaker 6: don't want an F, if you don't want bad grades

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Speaker 6: from your players, from your coat, from your workers, treat.

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Speaker 2: Them well, yeah, it's crazy. One oder one owner toty ESPN.

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Speaker 2: The only owners who don't care for it are the

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Speaker 2: ones who get the subpar grades.

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Speaker 6: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Funny how that works. It is interesting how that the

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Speaker 2: owners to take care of everything or like yeah, fine,

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Speaker 2: give the report cards exactly.

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Speaker 4: It could also be like a really good thing for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they if they did it, like you know, they

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Speaker 4: don't nobally looks at it that way.

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Speaker 2: We also had the discussion schemes skewball when Cy Young?

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Speaker 2: Why does Major League Baseball continue to just take the

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Speaker 2: back seat to everything, Like why not have a true

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Speaker 2: awards show? Like it's just it's always an afterthought. The

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Speaker 2: draft is an afterthought. Everything they do just seemingly falls.

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Speaker 2: Would you watch a baseball award show. I think if

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Speaker 2: if you had, if you had Otani and Judge and

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Speaker 2: the MVP candidates in the same room, I would probably

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Speaker 2: tune in and listen to some of it.

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Speaker 6: What about like on a night like last night, watched

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Speaker 6: the football Awards. I don't watch award show A slow

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Speaker 6: night a Wednesday, no no hoops on. I mean Major

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Speaker 6: League Baseball MLB network did do like an award show

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Speaker 6: for those individual awards and had all the finalists interviewed.

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Speaker 6: Would you really watch a baseball award show based on

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Speaker 6: what was on last night? Probably Miami Toledo football. The

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Speaker 6: Knicks were on.

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Speaker 2: That was a bad game, Miami back to back MAC losses.

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Speaker 4: I feel like if they presented it kind of like

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Speaker 4: the way that the NFL does, where it is like

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Speaker 4: a big production, but.

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Speaker 6: They because everybody goes to the super Bowl. Everybody's there

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Speaker 6: for the Super Bowl. I know, like if they reason

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Speaker 6: to do that Vegas and handout American League saw Young Award.

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Speaker 6: Here's Olivia Rodrigo handing out the I don't know why.

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Speaker 6: Here's Sidney Sweeney, She's got the Manager of the Year award.

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Speaker 6: Really we won a baseball award show?

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Speaker 4: It would be pretty funny to see Terry Francona accept

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Speaker 4: an award from Sydney show.

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Speaker 6: What d list celebrities would they jets? Here's doctor Oz.

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Speaker 6: Doctor Oz is going to be presenting the Bigue Rookie.

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Speaker 6: That would be the level of celeb you would get.

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Speaker 6: You would get like these hack like you know pop

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Speaker 6: artists from the early two thousands, right, that's what you

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Speaker 6: would hear. Here are the guys from bb MAC a

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Speaker 6: couple of handing out the American League MVP Award. You

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Speaker 6: guys think there would be a baseball award show that

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Speaker 6: anybody would?

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Speaker 2: I love baseball.

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Speaker 6: In the middle of November, We're gonna get all these

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Speaker 6: baseball players together in the middle of their offseason and

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Speaker 6: get together to hand out each hand each other hardware.

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Speaker 4: Why do they separate it out to like week to

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Speaker 4: week to week that I don't know I have?

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Speaker 2: I have absolutely so sorry to throw cold water, right

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Speaker 2: never mind, never mind fight for your idea, Tony I did.

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Speaker 2: I thought I'd just watch it.

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Speaker 6: Geez, Here comes Taloni as she presents the National League

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Speaker 6: Comeback Player of.

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Speaker 2: The Year Most Valuable Player. Why do we have two MVPs?

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Speaker 2: We don't have agree that we don't have.

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Speaker 6: We don't have Eastern Conference MVP in the NBA, we

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Speaker 6: don't have AFC MVP and football. It's another outdated It

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Speaker 6: is an outdated thing. We don't really have American League

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Speaker 6: and National League as separate entities. Why do we have

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Speaker 6: two MVPs? Good point, But I guess if you're gonna

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Speaker 6: have an award show, you need more. Award care do

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Speaker 6: we have to come up with more? I guess need more.

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Speaker 6: Here is the pinch Hitter of the Year, could sell it,

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Speaker 6: could sponsor it, presenting the awards. Ellen Rock from Ferris

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Speaker 6: Bueller's Day Off.

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Speaker 2: Uh, your money right now? Who you take to win

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? That's a terrific question. Are you surprised?

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Speaker 4: Are we allowed to do that? Locks of the Night?

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Speaker 2: Well, the odds on favorite right now is Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: not even right now and not even in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They are right now the betting favorite to win the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: La rams I said the other day, you're gonna win

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Speaker 6: the NLUs seven hundred. Yeah, I'll take LA plus seven hundred,

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Speaker 6: win the.

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Speaker 2: Whole thing, Tampa Bay plus twenty five enticing.

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Speaker 6: That's really good value. Yeah, that's really good plus getting

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Speaker 6: a little bit healthier this week. Yeah, than Tampa Bay

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Speaker 6: Bengals are what plus thirty thousand is that to win Sunday?

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Speaker 6: But that happened before Al Golden was seen stretching yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It is true.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that Plummets, Burrow back, Golden stretches, Bengals

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Speaker 2: are back in it.

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Speaker 6: I want to mention more celebrities that your pretending Baseball

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Speaker 6: Awards show.

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Speaker 2: Oh Mo's Rocket a Baseball is fun show today, trying

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Speaker 2: to make it more fun now to present.

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Speaker 6: The second basement of the year in the National League West.

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Speaker 6: It's Jenna Elfman from Dharma and Greg. Everybody gather in Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: For the highest ranking celebrity they could get, so like

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Speaker 2: Ray Romano.

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Speaker 6: Ray Romana would be like a good or his wife

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Speaker 6: from that show he was on Everybody Loves Rag, Jimmy

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Speaker 6: Fallon with the Yankees hat. Yeah, you're not getting a

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Speaker 6: listers to come to the November Baseball Award show in

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Speaker 6: Albuquerque or wherever they would have it.

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Speaker 4: I bet Mary Heart would a do an award.

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Speaker 2: That would be okay. I would be alright with that.

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Speaker 4: I like about who Kevin Fraser, Oh, Kevin former.

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Speaker 6: UC basketball announcer Kevin Fraser from Entertainment Tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I'm done. We have a great show.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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