Speaker 1: Up literally across the Middle East. Bahrain saying they've down
Speaker 1: seventy three missiles and ninety one drones, the embassy and
Speaker 1: Kuwait targeted by Iran, other embassies and other places inside
Speaker 1: the Middle East under siege to some degree various degrees
Speaker 1: by Iran, and President Trump announcing that we have a
Speaker 1: virtually unlimited supply of US munitions, and Iran has already
Speaker 1: been crippled in so many shape but way shapes and formed.
Speaker 1: But of course this is about regime change, and for
Speaker 1: the first time in forty six years, we have a
Speaker 1: legitimate chance at regime change in Iran, but we are
Speaker 1: bad at it historically here in America, Where does this
Speaker 1: war go?
Speaker 2: Hongs at last? And what should the outcomes be.
Speaker 1: Joining the show this morning is retired Major General Bob
Speaker 1: Dyes the United States Army. He commanded the US Israeli
Speaker 1: Combined Task for US for Missile Defense for some thirty
Speaker 1: years now the National Study National Center rather for Healthy Vets.
Speaker 2: General D's welcome, O great to be with you, Scott.
Speaker 3: Thank you dan Is. With all I know, we honor
Speaker 3: the servis of our military and their sacrifice, particularly those
Speaker 3: who've given their lives and we pray for God's comfort
Speaker 3: to their families, so they illustrate self with service.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 1: The big question would be out is the aircraft that
Speaker 1: got shot down? The three F fifty's are shot down
Speaker 1: by Kuwaiti defenses with technology, with our allies and especially
Speaker 1: with aircraft, friendly fire seems like something that shouldn't happen.
Speaker 2: Yet it does.
Speaker 1: Have we gotten better? We had to be much better
Speaker 1: than it used to be. But with the technology out there,
Speaker 1: how's that happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've done a lot better. But when you talk
Speaker 3: about relationship between international forces that haven't trained together with
Speaker 3: the aircraft and air defense in this manner before in
Speaker 3: a major way, then it happens fractor sides always tragic.
Speaker 3: Gratefully the pilots lived, and I'm sure this is a
Speaker 3: warning antidote to many people around the region of these
Speaker 3: other nations that are we have a lot of US
Speaker 3: Air Force other nation's air force flying around. We need
Speaker 3: this identification process needs to work much better than it
Speaker 3: did in this case.
Speaker 1: Obviously, we had nearly nine hundred strikes in twelve hours.
Speaker 1: That seems to me to be an extraordinary operational tempo.
Speaker 1: So from a military standpoint, what page What does that
Speaker 1: tell you the pace? What does that tell you about
Speaker 1: the planning timeline and the level of readiness and how preposition.
Speaker 2: We are for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's the Chairman of the Joint Chief Staff
Speaker 3: just recently said this morning, this is an unprecedented scale.
Speaker 3: And I was in charge of the war plans in
Speaker 3: the Pentagon in the late nineties. I know this particular
Speaker 3: mission was part of the planning process back then. You know,
Speaker 3: you plan against all sorts of contingencies, and so in
Speaker 3: some cases the planning has gone on for decades, understanding
Speaker 3: the terrain and understanding the people. But then now the
Speaker 3: integration of all the technology we now have is critical
Speaker 3: and it's amazing, frankly to see once and again how
Speaker 3: this integration has produced good results. Albeit this is a
Speaker 3: large conflict and we're going to see some loss of
Speaker 3: lives as well.
Speaker 1: This has been going on for forty seven years.
Speaker 3: Why now, Yeah, yeah, well it's just come to a
Speaker 3: boiling point. You know, the Iranians, you try all elements
Speaker 3: of national power. Regrettably, over the forty seven years since
Speaker 3: the Islamic Revolution happened, we've never had anything decisive to
Speaker 3: tell them to It's not healthy to say death to
Speaker 3: America or death to Israel, and to promote terrorism and
Speaker 3: continue to try to gain nuclear weapons and to empower
Speaker 3: their surrogus throughout the region, and then of recent to
Speaker 3: kill many of the innocent protesters within our reign itself.
Speaker 3: So all of that brought it to a boiling point.
Speaker 3: Our president and the administration worked hard on the negotiating side,
Speaker 3: and it became obvious to really the whole world that
Speaker 3: the Iranians were delaying and and just trying to play
Speaker 3: it out until they broke out with a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the decision to strike in a daylight rather night,
Speaker 1: to catch commanding the other senior officials together is described
Speaker 1: as a like a tactic deliberate, tactical surprise. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty significant decision. And also that should tell you us
Speaker 1: a lot. And you the quality of intelligence that drove
Speaker 1: this from the CIA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right, Well, the CIA and certainly the
Speaker 3: israel leis. Yeah, there was a real time intelligence, no
Speaker 3: doubt that brought this. The timelines forward, that you take
Speaker 3: more risk when you do it in the day, but
Speaker 3: the element of surprise was powerful and ineffective.
Speaker 1: Iran fired nearly three hundred missiles, roughly three hundred missiles
Speaker 1: I think in retaliation from their estimated stockpile. What's their
Speaker 1: remaining cap of capability? How long can they sustain that
Speaker 1: rate of fire?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's good question, Scott. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: doubt that the US military planners know that with precision.
Speaker 3: They have done this for decades, produce these ballistic missiles.
Speaker 3: They probably have quite a few stockpiles left. The question
Speaker 3: really is can they command and control that. Have we
Speaker 3: knocked down enough of their three hundred missile launchers to
Speaker 3: make it where they can't deliver the missiles? So I imagine
Speaker 3: they have a huge stock pile. It's just but that's
Speaker 3: not the long pull in the tent. We need to
Speaker 3: get their launchers. We need to disrupt their command and control,
Speaker 3: disrupt their intelligence, their targeting capabilities, and then that'll deny
Speaker 3: some of the use of those missiles.
Speaker 1: I imagine this is just part of the first wave here.
Speaker 1: Typically in a battle plan like this, General how does
Speaker 1: that plan?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 1: I guess how deep in the deck do you wind
Speaker 1: up getting here? You apply with paces out of our President said,
Speaker 1: be prepared. This could go on for months. We're hoping days,
Speaker 1: but it could be months and I think maybe a
Speaker 1: tempt our expectations like that.
Speaker 2: But how far out do you plan things like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you plan all sorts of eventualities and it's
Speaker 3: really condition based. So they'll start with a target set'll
Speaker 3: prosecute that the targets, and there were hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 3: I'm sure of targets with all these resources that are employed.
Speaker 3: And then you do battle damage assessment and that's how
Speaker 3: effective was that particular strike? And based on battle damage assessment,
Speaker 3: then you reattack or you say okay, let's move on
Speaker 3: to something else. And the tempo with that with which
Speaker 3: that occurs technically takes will determine how long this conflict lasts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the straight of Horror Moves is already showing disruption
Speaker 1: there in a shutdown. So from a strategic standpoint, how
Speaker 1: serious is the threat of RAN shutting all that down
Speaker 1: or maybe putting placing minds and other things out there
Speaker 1: to dissuade vessels from going in and out. And what
Speaker 1: options of the Navy does all right Navy have to
Speaker 1: counter that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's a very serious threat. I mean, we
Speaker 3: obviously have mind sweepers and things and we're working that
Speaker 3: we're trying to create ahead of time preempt some of those.
Speaker 3: I know that we've already attacked much of their naval capability.
Speaker 3: We've taken down I think to this point seven Iranian
Speaker 3: Navy ships and so forth. I just read a report,
Speaker 3: don't know details electronic warfare against ships and GPS signals
Speaker 3: in the strait supor moves also that could significantly disrupt
Speaker 3: the traffic going through. So it is a strategic choke point.
Speaker 3: But it's a mixed bag because if you knock out,
Speaker 3: if you close it totally, a lot of that oil
Speaker 3: is oil that's being supplied to China and other nations,
Speaker 3: and so if that's knocked out, then it many ways
Speaker 3: works to Iran's detriment.
Speaker 1: He is a retired US Army Major General. Bob De's
Speaker 1: on the Scott Sloan Show on seven hundred wwe commanded
Speaker 1: the US Israeli Task Force or Missile Defense and enjoins
Speaker 1: the show with his insight on what's happening as we
Speaker 1: speak right now. This is the largest regional military build
Speaker 1: up I believe since two thousand and three. Couple carrier groups,
Speaker 1: a dozen destroyers, you've got air assets, is that force
Speaker 1: package that is sufficient enough for a sustained operation? Do
Speaker 1: we have to call in more support?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think it's a definite force package. Now,
Speaker 3: what you have to realize is that you've got forces
Speaker 3: from the United States. You've got strategic Command, You've got
Speaker 3: transportation Command people that are providing from the United States
Speaker 3: assets that provide aerial refueling for many of the forces
Speaker 3: in region. We have long range bombers that come out
Speaker 3: of the inal United States. So yes, I think it's
Speaker 3: certainly enough in the region. You know, it's a real
Speaker 3: dense package of force of capability in the region. But
Speaker 3: we're a global power and so a lot of the
Speaker 3: power comes from the United States and other places. Also,
Speaker 3: other nations are starting to lend their support to include
Speaker 3: the Arab states that have been attacked by Iran of recent.
Speaker 1: Right on other thing too is I know Iran has
Speaker 1: some paramilitary forces and they're has been described, I think
Speaker 1: as the ace and a hole for unconventional warfare. So
Speaker 1: what should our troops expect in terms of a proxy
Speaker 1: retaliation or related valiation involving allied parties from the Iranians
Speaker 1: both in the region, But what about here on US oil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Hesballah has already started knocking or ascending rockets
Speaker 3: towards Israel, and there's an ongoing conflict on the northern
Speaker 3: nature of Israel right now. Domestically, as you know, there
Speaker 3: was a terrorism incident over the weekend in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 3: Pretty unusual, they say terrorism incidents, suspected terrorism, and there'll
Speaker 3: be a lot of lone wolves like this, And with
Speaker 3: four years of open border, there's probably a lot of
Speaker 3: valid sleeper cells that are opent that that may rise up. If,
Speaker 3: as many Iranian clerics say, this is an existential threat,
Speaker 3: this is the end times, This would be the time
Speaker 3: they would pull trigger on all assets who are in
Speaker 3: the United States as well as around the world.
Speaker 1: Do you think by now we have a good handle
Speaker 1: on who is here to do that kind of work
Speaker 1: from our intelligence in Stateside?
Speaker 3: I think absolutely we don't. I saw the amount we've
Speaker 3: been into infiltrated before nine to eleven in the sleeper sales,
Speaker 3: and now with the open border in twenty years hints
Speaker 3: there's a lot more that are embedded in the United States,
Speaker 3: So we need we need to be on our toes.
Speaker 3: We're grateful for the account intelligence efforts of the FBI,
Speaker 3: But we're pretty vulnerable right now domestically as well as
Speaker 3: you know, more domestically than we are internationally.
Speaker 1: Frankly, yeah, I wonder, you know, trying to pull all
Speaker 1: this stuff together. General D's and I tend to believe
Speaker 1: in Okham's razor, which basically leans the most common sense explanation,
Speaker 1: the right one. And I don't want to give elected
Speaker 1: officials and administrators administrative set too much credit here for
Speaker 1: being a long term planners or thinkers, because I don't
Speaker 1: think that's ever been the case. But in this regard,
Speaker 1: I look at what happened with Maduro and Venezuela, and
Speaker 1: that was a precursor allegedly to get well, was to
Speaker 1: get rid of fentanyl, which really wasn't the day. We
Speaker 1: got oil out of that. And in addition to that,
Speaker 1: we also activated ICE and their mobile eyes are going
Speaker 1: around from Minnesota and elsewhere. It'd be much easier for
Speaker 1: them to pivot to going from that kind of enforcement
Speaker 1: to terracells and rooting those individuals out. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you're going to shut down the straight up
Speaker 1: horn moves here choking about about twenty percent of the
Speaker 1: world oil supply. Now we have a steady supply of
Speaker 1: Venezuela oil coming to do this. I think those two
Speaker 1: things with ICE, but particular Venezuela were pretext for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure about the pretext for ice. I
Speaker 3: do think that these problems are not separable. A lot
Speaker 3: of the ICE operations are against people that are bad actors,
Speaker 3: some have been bad actors, and our potential terrorist threats,
Speaker 3: and so that'll that'll be complementary. On the oil thing,
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to figure out. You know, you can
Speaker 3: say America is just trying to get oil, but if
Speaker 3: you go back, I know my father in law was
Speaker 3: an oil man in Venezuela a long time ago. Venezuela's
Speaker 3: can be a very productive country with a very productive
Speaker 3: oil economy, but the Maduro regime and previous had just
Speaker 3: disrupted all that. So it was they were producing oil,
Speaker 3: but most of it was going to corrupt. Means the HOHO.
Speaker 1: These have already demonstrated ability to strike our assets and
Speaker 1: survive sustained bombardment. That's another element here in country. How
Speaker 1: significant is that threat to well carrier groups like the USS.
Speaker 1: Abraham I was on the Lincoln for a cruise the
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln and other naval assets in the region right now, Well.
Speaker 3: It's a significant threat and they they they are right
Speaker 3: on the Chocola, the Straits of hor Moves there, and
Speaker 3: so we got to continue to fight them. And it's
Speaker 3: a certainly they're attacking Israel at times, but right now
Speaker 3: they're attacking American assets in the region and particularly shipping
Speaker 3: lanes in the region these days, with guided missile capabilities,
Speaker 3: you know without a lot of effort that they can
Speaker 3: produce some significant outcomes. And if it's in the Straits
Speaker 3: of hornor moves. Now, if we have that going on
Speaker 3: there now the shipping is set down, shut down. I
Speaker 3: understand they've already been attacking old tankers in the Straits
Speaker 3: of Horror moves so significant Scott, Yeah, and Abraham Lincoln's
Speaker 3: impressive now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: Those those carry groups are amazing things when they get rolling.
Speaker 1: What is your threat assessment of Hesbela and they're.
Speaker 2: Rolling us.
Speaker 3: Well, I think today the Israelis reported they killed the
Speaker 3: key Hesbal leader, one of the main terrorist leaders there.
Speaker 3: The Israelis will continue to attack that a number of villages.
Speaker 3: I think it's fifty villages in southern Lebanon have been
Speaker 3: directed to evacuate because Israelis could use ground operations there
Speaker 3: to shut this down, and certainly they're doing air operations.
Speaker 3: When I was the commander of the Israeli Combined Task
Speaker 3: Force for Missile Defense, I mean we even from the
Speaker 3: Becka Valley up in Lebanon, we had gliders that were
Speaker 3: coming down, uh and and those are hard to pick
Speaker 3: up coming down the men on gliders with bombs or
Speaker 3: terraced to intent. And so the Israelis are are good
Speaker 3: at this, but they're fighting on all fronts north southeast above.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we got we.
Speaker 1: Got this three person transitional council because the head has
Speaker 1: been caught off and there's a lack of a clear
Speaker 1: command authority. Does that make things there for our troops
Speaker 1: more or less dangerous?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's more dangerous because here you have
Speaker 3: a wounded animal, one that we always had mal intent
Speaker 3: towards us, and now they're wounded and they're striking out
Speaker 3: and to shoot the ballistic missiles towards their Arab neighbors
Speaker 3: and then claric towards US and civilian targets as well
Speaker 3: as military targets. They are pretty desperate. And they may
Speaker 3: say that they have a three person ruling council, but
Speaker 3: with that type of death and destruction at the top
Speaker 3: of their leadership, I suspect it's very fragmented at best.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the Revolutionary Guard of course here is probably going
Speaker 1: to try to consolidate power because a full regime change
Speaker 1: doesn't really seem likely. Plus, we're also bad at regime
Speaker 1: change here in the United States. We've talked about that.
Speaker 1: If they do indeed emerge stronger of this whole thing,
Speaker 1: is that a success or of failure.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that would not be a success because,
Speaker 3: as we say, this has gone on for forty seven years.
Speaker 3: So we really do need to change the intent of
Speaker 3: the nation of Iran from death to America, death Israel,
Speaker 3: death to many others in the area, to one of
Speaker 3: economic aiming and economic prosperity and peaceful coalition in the region.
Speaker 1: Trump said, the bombing will continue as long and necessary
Speaker 1: from your chair their general military planning standpoint. What does
Speaker 1: that off ramp look like? I mean, what how do
Speaker 1: you declare, hey, victory, We're going to pull the hell
Speaker 1: out of here. And how many weeks or months do
Speaker 1: you think that takes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well I would say weeks not months. Uh,
Speaker 3: And and I would say it all depends on what
Speaker 3: we see. If we see Iran continuing to shoot missiles
Speaker 3: and and uh and other things, uh, you know, the
Speaker 3: naval and the straits of hor Moos, we will pursue
Speaker 3: all of that until it's no longer about you know,
Speaker 3: a valid threat. And that could be depending upon the
Speaker 3: b d A. As I mentioned the battle damage assessment
Speaker 3: and the overall campaign objectives, it could be you know,
Speaker 3: a few weeks before that happens. I don't think we're
Speaker 3: talking months though.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is there back channels going on within that three member
Speaker 1: panel to determine what leadership looks like? Is that something
Speaker 1: that's negotiated or are we just completely obliterate them for
Speaker 1: they cry uncle?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it depends. We got to see to
Speaker 3: do that. Does this three member panel do they really
Speaker 3: speak for the nation of our in Are they really
Speaker 3: controlling the IRGC or are they just puppets at this
Speaker 3: point in time? And you know, if the IRGC is
Speaker 3: the one calling the shots and continuing to find we
Speaker 3: need to defeat them, if not destroy them, before this
Speaker 3: conflict is properly ended.
Speaker 1: All right, weeks not months is what you or our
Speaker 1: guess would be. Uh and informed one at that And
Speaker 1: what the X how we how we pull out of
Speaker 1: this thing looks entirely different than what the aftermath is
Speaker 1: of course too is all in question. He is Major
Speaker 1: General US Army retired Bob D's He commanded the US
Speaker 1: is rarely combined task force or missile defense back in
Speaker 1: the day now at the National Center for Healthy Vests
Speaker 1: in Virginia.
Speaker 2: General, thanks for the time. I appreciate We talk again soon,
Speaker 2: b Welser.
Speaker 3: You bet Scott, thank you.
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