1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Jaffan welcomes trans Iberian Orchestra for two amazing shows 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: at Target Center on December twenty eighth or at three 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: o'clock and seven thirty and tickets are on sale now. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Get the complete show details, including a link to buy tickets. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Kfa in dot com keyword calendar. 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Time for another installment of dairy Land Diaries. 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: Well, I it's emotional for me. 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the last time we played that SoundBite 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: that open dairy Land Diaries used to be a weekly 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: staple of the Bumper Bumper program, and over the years, 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: because you know, we work so hard to fresh and 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: stuff up, we decided to go in different directions. 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: Didn't want to run any ground. 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Last thing we want to do on this show is 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: run and run anything into the ground, correct, And so. 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: It kind of went away. 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Now I kind of miss it, and maybe this will 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: be the nugget that reopens the door to a new 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: golden era. 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I think it's possible. I'm 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: with you. 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: This isn't a lengthy story, but god, it's a classic. 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: And this falls out of the classification of Have I 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: fact checked this one? 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: No? 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Because I don't want to because it's too good to 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: not be true. 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: Here's the tweet. 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Today, I helped push a random girl's car from an 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: illegal spot forty feet down to a legal spot to 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: avoid a toe. 32 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: The car worked fine. 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: We had to push it because none of the eight 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: people around us could blow a zero and she had 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: a DUI device. It was truly the most Wisconsin form 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: of Midwestern hospitality. 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: How good is that? I don't even know if it's true, 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: But it's brilliant? Is it not? None of it? We're 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: all fright, what do we get nailed? 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Well, they have a device, it's your smart start. They 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: won't start. They won't start, yeah, start, So they have. 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: To push it. 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: They couldn't find one person to get in the driver's seat. 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: There were eight, they said, and none of them wanted 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: to risk blowing into the device. You get in trouble, Well, 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: that's a good question. So if someone else blows into 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: the device, yeah, Well, all it will happen is just 48 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: won't start, right, you won't necessarily Is there a system there. 49 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: Where to lertch the cops at that point, I would 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: depend on the system. I don't know. 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you had the sober mabe, I should 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: know I'm smart start guy. Yeah, smart star sources. You 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: might be able to answer that question. 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: They would. 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would like to think that if you did 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: have the sober person, they would actually just drive, as 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: opposed to having to just blow into it so someone 58 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: else could drive. 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: Now, I think that's one hundred percent believable. 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent believable, and it's it's it's Hall 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: of fame level though, I mean, because it involves so 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: many people. It's like, we got to move this thing. Well, 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: just Johnny get in the car or just drive it 64 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: and then everything will be fine. Won't start, it won't start, 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: can't do it. 66 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: I tried it. Now, what he didn't say is how 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: many actually tried it? Right? That's what I would be. 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: The kicker to the story would be all eight of 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: us tried it convinced that wow, I or no, I'm fine, 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna got the wrong reading and got the 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: wrong reading, and they say, well, now we got no choice, 72 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to. 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to. 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Man, We're just gonna have to push it or pull it, 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. How good is that I 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: want to have to run that one by Gerby. Yeah, 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: I just want to know what town, what city? Like? 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: Did they need Wow? 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: How are they parked legally in the first place and 80 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: only forty feet to get to the actual good spot? 81 00:03:59,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: That's good? 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: Like? 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Was this a downtown situation? Was there meet or expired? 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: There's so many questions, Like you say, I'd love to 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: see some follow up. My one hesitation about following it 86 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: up was finding out that it wasn't true. I think 87 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: it's one but I think it's certainly believable. And nobody 88 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: works harder together than a group of drunk people, like 89 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: you really have a good boontu. But yeah, but most 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: of them aren't really capable of doing any That's why 91 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: it's beautiful, because they've got great plans and great ideas. 92 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: It's just the execution of the idea is sometimes a 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: little tough. 94 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting. 95 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: The tweet was offered up by somebody named Sean rn I. 96 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: The responses are interesting, Okay, I'm listening. 97 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: For example, Minie Haha at Beer Underscore, Wisconsin reacted this way, 98 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: people don't understand the open, sociability and the fun of 99 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: a busy bar outweigh the negative health effects of alcohol. 100 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: Wisconsin drinks way more, but the and deathday just still 101 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: above normal. His theory is that even though people drink 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: more in Wisconsin, they actually live longer because the positive 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: parts of the mingling in a social setting outweigh the alcohol. 104 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: And now that might be convenient logic, even though you 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: know that's what he wants to believe. 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Here's another response. This is why you keep balloons in 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: the car. You blow them up before you start drinking. 109 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: You then untie them and let them blow into the 110 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: DUI device to start the car planning your work and 111 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: working your plan. I can't even imagine. Were you aware 112 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: of that being a way to I was not. 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: That seems dangerous. 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: It is. 115 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't sound great. 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: Then, Courtney tweeted one time I had to pick a 117 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: friend up for work because she had a blower on 118 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: her car and still wasn't sober enough at eight am 119 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: to get her car started after we went out the 120 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: night before. That's not good. Eight am after means look 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: at it be a buzzkill. Or we had a great 122 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: time last night, tweeter crash Davis. We don't appreciate Wisconsin. 123 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: Enough. 124 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: That's probably one of the most cheesehead things. Ever, there's 125 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: a lot of good response to this thing, and the 126 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: balloon thing was interesting to me. I didn't even know. 127 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm you know that's that sounds like you're cheating the system. 128 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: The next Yeah, but that would probably be big in Wisconsin. Yeah, yeah, 129 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: I guess I don't love it. Uh well, I can't 130 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: read that one. There's someone there, there's someone there there 131 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: that good to read. In any case, I hope this, 132 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe gets the creative juices going and that 133 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: our listeners will be because, let's face it, a lot 134 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: of times we're getting this material from our listeners. That 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: this will inspire them to be more vigilant yep, and 136 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: to reintroduce dairy land diary. So that's more than once 137 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: every eight or nine months. We don't want to devalue 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: it and just offer one items that aren't worth the trouble. 139 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: But I think they's still fertile territory out there, fertile ground. 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: We're just not any longer. I guess you could say 141 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: harvesting it the way we once did and could you know. 142 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: It also hurts us. 143 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: I think the loss of community newspapers and radio stations 144 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: because we used to get a lot of them from 145 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: the small point. 146 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: You're exactly right. 147 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: You get them from the smaller papers that weren't reporting 148 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: on a lot of the state wide stuff, but they 149 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: had situations that popped up. They had sources in the 150 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: local police precincts and things like that. You lose a 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: lot of that. I think interesting smart start update. If 152 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: you blow into the smart start it will warn you 153 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: and not allow another test for five minutes. If a 154 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: second blow is over the limit, the device locks you 155 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: out for the day. There you go, that's good, that's safe. 156 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: So that's why those eight couldn't do it. They couldn't 157 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: even they couldn't risk it. Wouldn't even matter. How far 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: is forty feet? Forty feet? 159 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: That's how they said that. How far? Didn't you said 160 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: how far they were moving it? How far is that? 161 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: It's four basketball hoops? 162 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: You know? 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: Probably? Yeah, that's true. 164 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably from like the back of my room to 165 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: the back of your room, probably somewhere along those lines, 166 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: not too far. If you have eight people pushing a car, 167 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: I assume they could. Couldn't you lift it? If you 168 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: have eight people? No, No, I don't think so, No, No, 169 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: that's a lot I don't think you could lift it? 170 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: Well, was it? 171 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a monster truck. I mean 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: it's like a ukon. What about a Cooper? 173 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: Like a camera? People lift Mini Cooper? Yeah? Probably probably 174 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: could get a Cooper. Yeah. 175 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: The problem there though, is could you fit eight people 176 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: around Mini Cooper? No, that's a good that's a great point, right. 177 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: You'd have to have them very very carefully spaced. I 178 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: think you'd just throw it into neutral and push. 179 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably true. 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You can 188 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: learn more and give today at never shake mn dot com. 189 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: Where was the well? 190 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: I got to be more specific. I was about to 191 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: say where was the Larrymondela guy text? I got to distinguish, 192 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: like which Larry text and which hour that I wanted 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: to get to earlier? 194 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: Where did it go? Evan from Fridley. No guys talk 195 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: one of this when it's moving. Ash's opinion. 196 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: This is related to my recommendation book recommendation to Johnny Athletic. 197 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm rereading The Exorcist, a book that was written I 198 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: think it was published seventy one. The movie came out 199 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: honestly two or three years later. Very good sound track. 200 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: If you look up the song tubular Bells, it was 201 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: the instrumental score soundtrack to that film and was a 202 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: top forty hit at the time. Very unusual, you know, 203 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: given it was just an instrumental but very good stuff. 204 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: Larry Mandella guy says, my biggest complain about The Exercist 205 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: was that the split piece soup used as vomit was 206 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: to cloudy. 207 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: The split key suit was too cloudy. I think he 208 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 3: got corporate involves. 209 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to I mean, sometimes that's exactly what 210 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: you have to do. Updated, you know, though the Vikings 211 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: didn't play this week, I did update my handy dandy 212 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: weekly Vikings quarterback Power rankings. Not a lot of movement, 213 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: to be honest, A little bit of movement at the top, 214 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: but I still have I think for either. 215 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: The second or third week in a row. Danny Dimes 216 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: number one. They had. 217 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Kind of a surprisingly tough encounter, was it with the Cardinals? Yes, 218 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: and they still won. But they by the way, also, 219 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: I think they've had running back injuries. They've had a 220 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: bunch of injuries too, and they keep winning. Danny Dimes one. 221 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: I've got Sam Donold back up to two. We both 222 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: blew that pick. He went on the road and had 223 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: a did you see the long touchdown pass he threw 224 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: in that game under pressure? Big time throw, and they 225 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: beat the Jags to recover nicely from the game that 226 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Darnold blew the week before the late pick. I've got 227 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: a Rodge three, again, not spectacular but accurate. Who's the 228 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: X Seattle receiver he's got now? He is Metcalf DK Metcalf. 229 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: Their chemistry is big time man. Well, they were throwing 230 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: together in the Pittsburgh area high school. There we go 231 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: summer Metcalf, they worked it. Metcalf has always been one 232 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: of my favorite receivers. I just like to know of 233 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: those big physically huge because he's enormous, but he can 234 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: still move yep. So I got Rogers three because they're 235 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: they're smart, they're not asking to do too much. But 236 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: he's making accurate throws. And there I think four and 237 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: one they are. I got Carson Wentz four. I got 238 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins back in the top ten at five because 239 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: the rumors continue to be he's going to be a 240 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: ail at the trade deadline. 241 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 242 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: Know who's gonna want them. I guess the obvious team 243 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: would be the Bengals, unless they're so buried by then. Yeah, 244 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: uh bother did you also see? This might be top 245 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: five to five worthy? This sound this commentary from Tua 246 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: from Tomlin, Oh, from Tomlin on the Browns decision to 247 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: trade them. Tomlin savages the general manager of the Cleveland Cavaliers. No, 248 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns in doing so. I mean it was 249 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: about as frontal weird a a rip as one can get. 250 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Now again, they're in the same division. I think that's 251 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: part of what's what bugged them. I've got Max Brosmer six. 252 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: Brosmer might well be this is not crazy to consider, 253 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: boys and girls. Max Brosmer might be your be your 254 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: backup quarterback to Carson Wentz. 255 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: On Sunday, I don't think that's out landish at all. Yeah, 256 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 257 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: Cam Akers drops to seven. Although he didn't really do 258 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: it wrong, I still have to keep him in the 259 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: top ten. When he threw that's probably the best throw 260 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: pass we've had thrown all seasons. 261 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 3: It was nice. The receiver was. 262 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Wide open, perfectly run trick plays, so they don't have 263 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: to hit him. 264 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: That's true. 265 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: Pdue tried it. They threw an interception, so you still 266 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: have to find a way past not eight. Case Keenum 267 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: nine and Jake Browning drops to ten. Also receiving votes 268 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: this week. JJ McCarthy and Jeff George also receiving Lives 269 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: Full of Slappies. Do we still have that one? That's 270 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: probably gone somewhere. It's not on any of our button back. 271 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: That was to the Pa and Debay show, is it not? 272 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: I think so? Yes. 273 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: Did they have him on regularly or was that just 274 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: like a one shot deal? I don't remember, because that 275 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: would have been that's the Denny era. Yeah, that would 276 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: have been like the two thousand Jeff George, I want 277 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: to say, right, and so, I don't know if they 278 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: had him regularly or not. They may have brought to 279 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: you by Continental Diamond good point. It's very true. So 280 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a fair list at 281 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: this point. So right now I have one, two, and 282 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that the Vikings all passed on that could 283 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: have had any of them to start the twenty twenty 284 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: five season. 285 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: And it's that's how it's worked out so far. 286 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: They have They've all played well, and probably none more 287 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: than Coltsky. 288 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: He's been great. He's been really really good. We'll see 289 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: if it holds up. 290 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: All right, We're going to move to the A section 291 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: away from the toy department in our next segment to 292 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: chat with our good friend Michael Hurley, former off CIA 293 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: officer who worked in the Middle East several times post 294 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, worked on the nine to eleven Commission, 295 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: in fact, help write the report that the nine to 296 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: eleven Commission put together. And I want to get his 297 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: reaction to the news out of the Middle East. President 298 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: is in or was in Israel and hostages, the remaining 299 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Hot Living Living hostages have been released dramatic video they 300 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: what do we make of this? I guess breakthrough? Can 301 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: it last? Is always the devil in the details. We'll 302 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: get all of that and what as I mentioned his 303 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: thinking might be. Mister Hurley's very honest with us and 304 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: usually very very thought provoking as well. So if you 305 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: have questions for him regarding the agreement six four six 306 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: eighty six, that is the Bradshawn Bryant k f a 307 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: N text line, we'll be back with him, and then 308 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: in the five o'clock I'm sure we'll get back to 309 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Eagles Week. 310 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: Stay tuned. 311 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to catch up with our good friend. 312 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: Michael Hurley, e Dinah's own former career CIA officer, also 313 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: helped write the worked on the nine to eleven Commission 314 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: kind of in the front office, so to speak, and 315 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: help write the nine to eleven report as well, and 316 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: anytime a major international story breaks out, we love to 317 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: get his UH wisdom, expertise and analysis, and he agrees 318 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: to join us now via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. 319 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: Michael Hurley, how have. 320 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: You been, Hi, Dan, I've been great. Great to be 321 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: back on with you. 322 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: A lot of travel lately or you've been kind of 323 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: home standing it? What's it been like lately? 324 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: A fair amount of domestic travel as two to Dallas' 325 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 4: purtuit to Miami and trip to Spain. Internationally, a lot 326 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: going on. 327 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: Nice Where in Spain? Is this business and or pleasure 328 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: or both? Or what can you tell us. 329 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: A little bit of both. I'm a consultant, as you know, Dan, 330 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: for international companies and technology companies, mostly on I have 331 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: some contacts in the network in Madrid that's helped a 332 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: few of these companies out. So I go there to 333 00:17:59,600 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: work on. 334 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: That beautiful place to hang out in as well well. 335 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving us some time again, toss up question. I want 336 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: to read you a couple of sentences from a Wall 337 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Street Journal analysis that may have dropped earlier today. 338 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: Here's what they write. 339 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: When Hamas's leader Khalil al Haya first saw President Trump's 340 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: plan for peace in Gaza, which demanded his group disarm 341 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: with few concrete steps to ensure Israel would end the war, 342 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: his immediate reaction was no. The plan, heavily amended by 343 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Israel and presented Hamas by the Katari Prime Minister and 344 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: Egypt's spy chief, looked nothing like what Haya had been 345 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: led to expect. Officials familiar with the discussions set less 346 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: than a month earlier. He'd been a target of Israel's 347 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: audacious attack on Hamas in Qatar told his cut of 348 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: visitors the group would keep its Israeli hostages until it 349 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: had enforceable guarantees the war would end. Two days later, 350 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: Hamas came back to Arab mediators with a yes. The 351 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: deal really hadn't changed the pressure on Hamas had They 352 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: lay out that Egypt and Katar told him the deal 353 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: was his last chance to end the war. According to 354 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: the officials, they pressed Hamas to understand that holding the 355 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: hostages was becoming a strategic liability, and the next day, 356 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: joined by Turkey, they warned him that if Amas didn't 357 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: approve the plan, it would be stripped of all political 358 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: and diplomatic cover. Went on from there. Do you agree 359 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: with that analysis of exactly why Hamas came to the 360 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: table here or seemed willing to say yes after it 361 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: had previously said no without any real adjustments to the deal. 362 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 4: It sounds right to me, Dan for such a sudden 363 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: change and shift on Hamas's part, And I think the 364 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: key the key to this was getting Turkey and Egypt 365 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: and cut to our all lining up behind what the 366 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: Trump administration's diplomacy was, and that pressure essentially telling the 367 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: Hamas leader that Amos would be cut off completely, probably 368 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: economically financially, but with any political support as well too 369 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: from those countries. Probably led to that change of heart. 370 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: That was a stark reality that the leader, I'm sure assessed, 371 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 4: and it makes sense to me that that might account 372 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: for his change. 373 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Should this deal as you understand it with obviously which 374 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: we're very short way into it, but as it stands 375 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: as a deal, should it be lauded, and should the 376 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: President of the United States get a good amount of 377 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: the credit. 378 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 4: Yes, I think this is a it's a significant step forward. 379 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: Just to me, getting the hostages returned to their loved 380 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 4: ones in Israel, that was a that that's a big step, 381 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: and I think we need to applaud that. It's heartwarming 382 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 4: to see that happen, and no one could deny that 383 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: that is is really an important step forward. Again, I 384 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: think for that to come into play, the administration had 385 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: to really be working on building support among these key 386 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: players in the region Turkey, Egypt, cut Our and others 387 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 4: to get their support lined up for that, and so 388 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 4: I thought it was quite remarkable today the summit at 389 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: Charmel Shaikh in Egypt, where all these leaders in the 390 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 4: region and also the world gathered to support this initial step, 391 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: so I think we can say that it's significant, we 392 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 4: should be happy about it. There's a lot of work 393 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: that remains to be done, though, because obviously there's some key, 394 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 4: key events and provisions that have to fall into place 395 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: for a lasting piece. 396 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Jeff asks to follow up on that observation, asks what 397 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: everybody's asking at this point, Does Michael believe there's any 398 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: chances as actually real where there will there honestly be 399 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: calm in the Middle East? 400 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: Now, Well, that's that's a great question. I think I've 401 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 4: learned not to be over overly optimistic about that region, 402 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: the the the the wars and the conflict Dan as 403 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 4: you know, and raging all of our lives, and and 404 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 4: and and before that even and we like to think 405 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: when there's these important good events that happened, that that's 406 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: going to be a signal a shift. I hope. So, 407 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 4: but we have to really wait to see what happens, 408 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: because as I said, there's much hard work to be done, 409 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 4: and key things will Hamas totally disarmed, for example, that 410 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 4: will be that that would be a key step Israel 411 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: has pulled out according to the agreement and the ceasefire 412 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: to they've moved further out of the heart of Gaza, 413 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: but they're still in Gaza. And at what point will 414 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: they move their forces out? And there is just a 415 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 4: number of other things as well too, but this, this 416 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: to disarm is a central point. Then how will God 417 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 4: that be governed? What is going to be the constitution 418 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 4: of that government? Will it have legitimacy for the Palestinians there, 419 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 4: and will it lead to the prosperity that President Trump 420 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: and everybody else really that's pulling for peace, hopes for 421 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: all that remains to be seen. I think we do 422 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 4: need to applaud where we are today, but we also 423 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: have to be realistic about the hard work that remains ahead. 424 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: You know, let's go back a little ways. In fact, 425 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: quite a ways. I saw I don't know how this 426 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: video showed up on my ex you thread, you know 427 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: how these things happen. You get you get lost in 428 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: this stuff sometimes then stuff I guess they figure this 429 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: is what you're interested in, so we're going to give 430 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: it to you. 431 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: And it was a comment. 432 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: There was a speech or a part of a speech 433 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: from Bill Clinton, and I don't know how far back 434 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: it goes. And you've seen variations of of his comments before. 435 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen some from Hillary Clinton, and in 436 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: this case, Bill is basically sort of reviewing what he 437 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: believes is one of the central tragedies of the Middle East. 438 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: Story that he had that the Palestinians once upon a 439 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: time had in front of them PLO as good a 440 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: deal as one could possibly ever imagine them getting in 441 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: terms of land, et cetera, and they walked away from it. 442 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? Is that one of the 443 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: great swings and missus? Do you think it was more 444 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: complicated than that? And how close do you think we 445 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: came for that breakthrough being the breakthrough? 446 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: I think we did come close. And I'm trying to 447 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: remember exactly what peace agreement that was, Is that Oslo 448 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 4: was that? 449 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: Was that. 450 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 4: Some other event or significant agreement or near agreement. I 451 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: just don't remember, but I do recall, and I actually 452 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 4: recall all Clinton's remarks about that they it did seem 453 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: to be a very good deal. Often these leaders, I 454 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 4: don't know if that was Yasir Arafat at the time 455 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: it was the head of the p l O, but 456 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: often they would be they would be captured in a 457 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: way and influenced most by the most radical members of 458 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: their of their the most radical faction of their movement, 459 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: for example. And maybe he was under pressure not to 460 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 4: accept it. I don't really know. I don't really remember 461 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: all the dynamics of it. But uh, it was that, 462 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: you know, inability to accept some form of compromise that 463 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: actually really would have worked out to the benefit of 464 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 4: the Palestinians in the longer term, and turning your back 465 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 4: on that led to further conflict than years of conflict ahead. 466 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: So uh, yeah, the bus has been missed many many 467 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 4: times in the Middle East. 468 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a couple others, a couple of 469 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: other good questions, well before I get to a couple 470 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: more from the text line, because a bunch of folks 471 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of questions to try to get to 472 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: you before we wrap things up here close to the 473 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: top of the five o'clock hour. One of them, I've 474 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: gotten a variation of several of these, is that whether 475 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: in the end, what we're going to find out about 476 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: this deal. It was what was presented in part to 477 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: Hamas was all right, now we're serious. You either agree 478 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: to this, release the hostages or else the old or 479 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: else It's something even more violent was coming their way, 480 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: that the hammer with the President's approval was going to 481 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: be dropped down on them, and that also played a 482 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: part of this. 483 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, yeah, I think a couple 484 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: of weeks ago, I think it was when President Trump 485 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: made that made that announcement of these were the conditions 486 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 4: that were being laid down. Here's the deal except this 487 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: or the US is going to step back and essentially 488 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: Israel is going to be turned loose even far more 489 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: in a far more destructive way than it had been 490 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: over the last two years in Gaza, and and sort 491 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: of saying that US would not intervene to rain Israel 492 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 4: in if that were to happen. So that ultimatum at 493 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: the time, I remember reading it and thinking, I'm not 494 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: sure if this will work, but I think there were 495 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: teeth behind it, and it appears to have worked at 496 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: least to get Hamas's attention and lead to this and 497 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: and lead to this deal on the hostages, which, as 498 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 4: I said, I think is an important step forward. 499 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned there are this is a long process and 500 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: there are still a number of other steps, and it 501 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: is the Middle East, and so I think people can 502 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: hail this as you have properly and still kept their 503 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: eyes open to say, well, it's it's it's volatile there. 504 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: It's always been volable there. 505 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: There's been a number of close calls, some swings and misses, 506 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: et cetera. So you don't know yet. What you know 507 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: is there's there is progress. It's an interesting framework. Here, 508 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: give me a couple of examples of where it might 509 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: start in your mind to break down. 510 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 4: Sure, happy to do that. And I just think in general, 511 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: when events occur, people kind of all we all just 512 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: human nature. We want to if they're good, we want 513 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 4: to celebrate them, and I think that's important. We want 514 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 4: to sort of declare a victory. We seek practical solutions often, 515 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: I think, particularly in the Middle East, it's not really 516 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: an area that's open to practical solutions and the problem 517 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 4: and being able to sort of say problem solved, wash 518 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: your hands of it. I think back in and you 519 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 4: remember this just an analogy really to President George W. 520 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: Bush and mission accomplished in Iraq. Remember that the mission 521 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: was accomplished for three or four months into going into Iraq. Well, 522 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: it turned out that wasn't the case, and the conflict 523 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: lingered for years after that. Uh, sort of sort of 524 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: similarly on this. I'm hopeful that these positive steps forward 525 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: will lead to, you know, really a good outcome. But 526 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: in response to your question, it could break down in 527 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: a number of ways. The the US is going to 528 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: deploy two hundred troops there, I think to help with 529 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 4: the peacekeeping and getting supplies in. And there are I'm 530 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: sure forces that don't want Peple and you know they 531 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: they may well try some sort of attack on the 532 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: on those on those troops. Uh. Of course the commanders 533 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: are gonna be very well aware of that and take 534 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 4: every precaution to protect them. But you just never know 535 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: what's going to happen there. Remember the bombing of the 536 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 4: Marine barracks during the Reagan administration, and and so that 537 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: could derail something. 538 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 539 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: The Israeli troops inside of Gaza necessary to be there 540 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: to to to enforce the ceasefire. But you know, if 541 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 4: radicals who want to blow this thing up to start 542 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: taking potshots that Israeli soldiers, that could that could lead 543 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: to a blow up as well too. If Hamas doesn't disarm, 544 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: which is what is real wants, of course, that that 545 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: could lead to derailing this. There is any number of 546 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: other things that could occur that the governance question in 547 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: in in in in Gaza, for example, I think is 548 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 4: that's going to be a very key question. Who's going 549 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: to have political control in in Gaza. You know, I'm 550 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: curious and I I maybe you may know more about 551 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: this than I I do, Dan, But where where is 552 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: Saudi Arabian all of this? It's kind of interesting because 553 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: I know Jared Kushner, the president son in law, has 554 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: very close relations with the leader in Saudi Arabian. I'm 555 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: guessing that there's been a lot of behind the scenes 556 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: negotiation and diplomacy going on. I would also guess that 557 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia will be lined up in such a such 558 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 4: a tremendously rich country, uh to be deeply involved in 559 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: the rebuilding effort in Gaza, which is going to be 560 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: a massive, massive project, and so much destruction has taken 561 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: place there. So I'm curious about the Saudi role. I 562 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: just haven't seen that much written about it. Maybe maybe 563 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: you have seen something. But there are a number of 564 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: There are just a number of these things as we 565 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: go forward that are going to have to be addressed. 566 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: And I'm not going to suggest that the easy part 567 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 4: is done. Because this first part was hard to get 568 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 4: the agreement to release the hostages, and that's that's significant. 569 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: But there are really very very difficult challenges that lie ahead. 570 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: And I think seems obviously the administration is is committed 571 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 4: to devoting the attention and the resources to to pushing 572 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: those our goals forward and and and goals towards peace. 573 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: So it will be fascinating to watch what happens. But 574 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: it's not over yet, you know. 575 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: To your point about the Saudi Arabian role, I don't 576 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: know if we can connect these dots or not, but 577 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: I did think it was interesting. The Washington Post had 578 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: a piece, I think it was last week. US military 579 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: files reviewed by the Post show that Iran's threat was 580 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: the main driver of expanded Israeli Arab security cooperation under 581 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: US Central Command. The Regional Security construct includes Israel, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, 582 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, and the UAE, with Kuwait and Oman briefed 583 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: as potential partners, and there were some other countries involved 584 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: there as well. Now that's we're talking about Iran, but 585 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 1: I think we may have gotten into this last time 586 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: we had you on. There's sometimes I know publicly some 587 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: of the Arab countries have not been all that interested 588 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: in raising their hands regarding some of these, you know, 589 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: these security arrangements. But it definitely feels as if this 590 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: is that there's significant momentum this. I don't know if 591 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: this plays into this deal as well, but a lot 592 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: more cooperation than there is savagery between Israel and many 593 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: of these countries, at least in terms of security. 594 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, remember the Israeli strikes against Iran in the spring 595 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 4: and the successful strikes, and then of course the US 596 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: strikes on the nuclear facilities in Iran that really reduced 597 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 4: Iran's influence and certainly kind of we really put the 598 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: squeeze on his below, which is the main ally of 599 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 4: Iran in the region. So there's no question and that 600 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: there's been just a great deal of I think successful 601 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: diplomacy taking place behind the scenes with the Saudis, with 602 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: the other regional powers. Saudi Arabia is by far the 603 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: richest country of the region, and that wealth is going 604 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 4: to be critical to any hope for prosperity, for prosperity 605 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 4: in Gaza. Those countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, they 606 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: have not wanted historically to have massive numbers of Palestinian 607 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 4: refugees coming into their countries for all kinds of reasons. 608 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: Spot so they've been much more interested in keeping them 609 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: in Gaza and in the West Bank and you know, rebuilding, 610 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 4: rebuilding their economies there. That makes sense from their point 611 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: of view. So I think that that's probably the game 612 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: that Saudi is playing. But you were talking about the 613 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 4: military alliances, and that is key because it really comes 614 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: down to this Sunni Shia issue, to that conflict with 615 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 4: Iran being a Shia country, Shia Muslim country, and Saudi 616 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: Arabia and the other Arab country is being Sunni, and 617 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia is deeply, deeply concerned about the threat from Iran, 618 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: and that really does, I think pose the basis for 619 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 4: US and Saudi Israeli cooperation that you described. 620 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a uh in this case is from 621 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: the former chess master Gary Kasparov, and he is offering this, 622 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: I guess cautionary note with actually linkage to some brutal, 623 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: brutal video of what appears to be Hamas doing in 624 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: some street executions of Palestinians in Gaza. The war between 625 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: Hamas and Israel may be over for now, but the 626 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: Hamas war on Palestinians is not and and that's part 627 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: of the wildcard you talked about earlier. That's that's very 628 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: vital and it raises the larger question for me. We'll 629 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: see video in the last several months, especially from folks 630 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: in that area who say they are they do not 631 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: want to be represented by Hamas. They don't believe in Hamas. 632 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: They believe Hamas has actually been destructive for the cause. 633 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: So how how have they been have they been able 634 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: to maintain their their toll hold? 635 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: Exactly? 636 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: Who do they represent in over the last let's say, 637 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years. Do they represent as many people as 638 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: they want to believe or or is it a much 639 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: limited group and no one else can kind of get 640 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: any sort of momentum going to help root them out. 641 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 4: Well, I think they I think they don't represent very 642 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 4: many as many people as they like the world to believe. 643 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 4: I think they've maintained their power through cohesiveness, political cohesiveness, 644 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 4: and also through brutal, brutal tactics. They have the weaponry, 645 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: they have the ability to basically execute get rid of 646 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: anybody that you know doesn't play their game. And that's 647 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 4: what happens so I think the population has largely been 648 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: living in fear of the Hamas leadership, and it's just 649 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 4: they just imposed it through through through brutal tactics, and 650 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 4: it's fascinating too. Like, so how do you how do 651 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 4: you actually get them to disarm, because many will fear 652 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 4: if they disarmed that they'll be killed. Of course, that's 653 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: that's one thing. And I've heard, I've seen some discussion 654 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 4: that they'll they will be given choices of amnesty or 655 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 4: being able to leave the country to seek asylum elsewhere. 656 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 4: But then you have the issue of the countries not 657 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: wanting to receive them because they don't want to have 658 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 4: radical elements coming into their societies and radicalizing their countries. 659 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 4: So those are thorny, thorny problems. But it's clear that 660 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 4: Israel and its tactics has severely weakened Hamas. But you know, 661 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 4: people tend to try to hang on to power as 662 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 4: long as they can because they fear the consequences of 663 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 4: what will happen to them if they have it stripped 664 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 4: away or they give it up. 665 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: Last item from back inside the toy department, away from 666 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: international affairs, let's talk about your favorite football team. 667 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 3: The question on the table. 668 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: Off the buy is what the Vikings do at quarterback 669 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles. Do they go with Carson Wentz 670 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: yet again, fresh off a very good late drive after 671 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: a kind of an inconsistent performance throughout or do they 672 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: hand the keys back over to the kid that they 673 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: intended to run the show if it stayed healthy this 674 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: entire season. JJ McCarthy, what would coach Hurley do this 675 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: month and this coming Sunday. 676 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 4: That's that's really really a tough question. I watching those 677 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 4: first couple of games, at least the parts of the 678 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 4: games that I was able to see, I just kind 679 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 4: of felt, look, you've got a rookie quarterback, and you 680 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 4: expect mistakes that come back against the Bears, and that 681 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 4: what was the fourth quarter was was great. I'd given 682 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: up on that game, yes, the third quarter, and so 683 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: that was that was fun to see. I don't know, 684 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 4: like I just I wonder I sometimes whether whether Kevin O'Connell, 685 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 4: you know what he really thinks now after you know, 686 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: seeing what he's seen for the first couple of games, Uh, 687 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: is Went's going to hit his trust stride. I think 688 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: that's possible. I just, you know what, what's what's hard 689 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 4: for me, and I think for a lot of fans 690 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 4: is knowing that you've got one of the best receiving 691 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 4: corps in the game, right like with with Addison and 692 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: and uh and Justin Jefferson and you know, Naylor and 693 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 4: and and Feeling, yeah, Zeeland, all of them, and you know, 694 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: just getting the ball to them and letting them them 695 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: do their things. So who can do that? I you know, 696 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: I guess I'd go with Wentz against the Eagles and 697 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 4: see how that plays out, and you know, hoping that 698 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: he begins to really find his stride with the Vikings, 699 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 4: which I think he's capable doing. You know what's watching 700 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 4: how Sam Darnold is doing lots and Dan what about 701 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones? 702 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: Many times it's been tremendous. Yes, it's crazy, isn't it. 703 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's just been fascinating. And what uh, 704 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 4: what are the possibility for Brosner? Is he like, is 705 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 4: he you know, is he game ready? 706 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: Well, if it was up to the if it was 707 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: up to the producer of this show, Brozemer would start. 708 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be Wentz or u J. J. McCarthy. 709 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 710 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: Brozemer is was was very good with Minnesota obviously University 711 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. In his one year, it feels like he's 712 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: got he's like, you know, ten years older than his 713 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: real age. So I said, it's possible that Wentz will 714 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: be the starter and Brosemer might be the backup. If 715 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: they say, well, we really even haven't got enough practice 716 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: time yet, in which aja he's not close enough for 717 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: him to actually be active, I think that's a very 718 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: that's a that's a decent possibility. 719 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes. 720 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: So it I I don't think the Vikings quarterback situation 721 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 1: has ever been more interesting than it is right now, 722 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: for including the reasons you laid out. The people that 723 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: they were in the running for had on this roster 724 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: that for financial reasons they felt like they couldn't bring back. 725 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: In the case of Darnold, they offered more money to 726 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones than the Colts, but I think Jones understood 727 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: he had a better chance to compete for the starting 728 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: job there than he did here. And even Aaron Rodgers, 729 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: who they flirted with, no question, yeah, he loanted to 730 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: come here, has looked, you know, not as spectacular as 731 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: the other two guys, but has looked very solid and 732 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: he has the Steelers with a record of four and one. 733 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I had a fun discussion before getting 734 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 4: on with you with Justin and I was just remembering 735 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 4: back to growing up and the Vikings, you know that 736 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 4: I really loved, and that the offensive line with ron 737 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 4: Yerry and Ed White and Mick Kinglehoff and those guys, 738 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 4: and then of course Bill Brown, Dave Osbourne, Tarkenton that 739 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 4: you know, you just you saw them play Sunday after 740 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 4: Sunday and it got hurt, I suppose, But they weren't 741 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 4: out like as much as the players of these days. 742 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: You didn't have that the hamstrings and the ankles and 743 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 4: the knee injuries. That seemed like And I don't know 744 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 4: if the players are just bigger now or there's more 745 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 4: violence or or what it is, but that's an interesting discussion. 746 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 4: I think, like, how, you know what, how has the 747 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 4: game changed you where all these players are getting hurt 748 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 4: so much? It is a violent game, for sure, And 749 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 4: but yeah, I just I don't remember those guys missing games, 750 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 4: am I Am I wrong about? 751 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: In the day, it didn't feel like in pretty much 752 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: any sport, certainly baseball with pitchers basketball, it appears that 753 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: there are a lot more injuries now. It's it's just 754 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: it's a very different world. It's almost as if the 755 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: debate is whether athletes are being overtrained now in a 756 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: way that in the old days. You know, if you're 757 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: a football player pro FOOTBA player, in the old days, 758 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: you couldn't train in the off season because you needed 759 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: another job. You worked as a teacher, or whatever the 760 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: case may be. So it remains to me be seen. 761 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: It is interesting, Michael. The last text I got what 762 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: is truly tougher in this world? Brokering peace in the 763 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: Middle East or just being able to commit to a 764 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: sustained quarterback for your Minnesota Vikings. And I sensed with 765 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: you you were struggling with your answer more about the 766 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: Vikings quarterback situation than you were the Middle East, which 767 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: should tell us everything we need to know. 768 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: I guess. 769 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: So that's too good for great to catch up with you. 770 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: Outstanding analysis is always my friend, and we will talk soon. 771 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 3: Thanks Michael, Thanks very much, appreciate you. 772 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: Mike Hurley, former CIA officer, I Dinah's own. He's got 773 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 1: hockey royalty in his family, Connor and. 774 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 3: A huge sports group. 775 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: But we have him on for his outstanding analysis on 776 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: Middle East, well not just Middle East, of geopolitical stuff 777 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: in this case Middle East for sure. We are late 778 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 1: for the Top five at five, and we are guest 779 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: free the rest of the way, so we'll have a 780 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: lot of time to get back into Eagles week. I 781 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: got a couple of other controversial subjects on the table, 782 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: and we'll get to a mini version of Top five. 783 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: Is that fair? 784 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do that. 785 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: I've got KOC on JJ, We've got a Detroit Lions suspended, 786 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: the Titans fire a coach, and the MLB playoffs, believe 787 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: it or not, are still going on. As far as 788 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: far as you know, Signetti is off this moment, is 789 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: still coaching Indiana. He's planning to have a homecoming in 790 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: against Michigan State. Yes, he's planning to coach now, we 791 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: don't know about tomorrow.