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Speaker 1: I heard Hugh a couple of times on the radio

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Speaker 1: at four. And then all of a sudden, I found

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Speaker 1: myself just wanting a little bit more from you. I

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Speaker 1: just thought I almost got Hughey, almost got everything I

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Speaker 1: needed from you, but not everything. So now we have

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Speaker 1: you back into the air for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I got so many notes here, dude. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: why don't we just give you the floor? Just start go?

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Speaker 1: Yes, one of the biggest regular season wins in Seahawks history.

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Speaker 1: They're the number one seed for the first time since thirteen.

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Speaker 1: What's the top of your mind today, man, Well, I just.

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Speaker 2: Think you look at how Seattle dominated the forty nine

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Speaker 2: er offense, you know, really focusing on Christian McCaffrey and

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Speaker 2: the running backs, the fact that they would have ten

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Speaker 2: carries for thirty two yards, and in that they in

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Speaker 2: those ten carries, the Seahawks they play heavy box. They

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Speaker 2: brought the safety down one out of the ten, nine

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Speaker 2: out of the ten times they played with a past shell,

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Speaker 2: they stopped the run with just seven guys, and they

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Speaker 2: did it with NICKI Min Worry basically playing a Sam

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Speaker 2: Nickel Sam. And so the fourthcoming comment that I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: make is is assuming that Emon Worry is a linebacker,

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Speaker 2: because that's what he plays. And I'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in a second. There wasn't one secondary. The other four

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Speaker 2: remaining secondary guys never were in on a tackle on

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Speaker 2: the forty nine er run place. The Seahawks handled the

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Speaker 2: forty nine er offense with just their their front seven.

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Speaker 2: That's never happened. I'm so used to. I did the

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Speaker 2: numbers since twenty nineteen, the forty nine ers of the

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Speaker 2: winning this team in the NFC, they've averaged in that stadium,

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers offense one hundred and fifty one

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Speaker 2: yards rushing, averaged thirty one rush attempts. So the degree

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Speaker 2: to which Seattle has squashed them, you know, just exponentially.

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Speaker 2: And a final thought on Emon Worry because a lot

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Speaker 2: of people say, wasn't that like you know, like Cam

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Speaker 2: Chancellor camp Chancer played in the box. This is why

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Speaker 2: I say, nick emmonin Worri is a Sam linebacker. If

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Speaker 2: I was playing still and preparing to play the Seahawk defense,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I'd be soiling my shorts at the prospect.

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Speaker 2: But secondly, I as I analyzed nick Emon Worriy, he's

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Speaker 2: just a linebacker. He Cam Chancellor played in the post

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Speaker 2: safety in twenty thirteen Super Bowl winning Here Cam Chancellor,

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Speaker 2: You'd say, well, he was the strong safety, right, he

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Speaker 2: was the guy down in the box. He played cover three.

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Speaker 2: That's a single high ear Old Thomas is the free safety.

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Speaker 2: Cam Chancers down in the box. Cam had four and

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Speaker 2: thirteen snaps as the post safety. That's forty one percent

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Speaker 2: of his snaps. Nick am and Worry only has one

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Speaker 2: snap this whole year. Is a post safety and a

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Speaker 2: you know, Nick Emmerworry's a linebacker and a great one

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Speaker 2: and how he plays, and you know, very pivotal in

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Speaker 2: what they did, just squashing that run offense by San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Clint Kobeac's game plan seemed to me like kind of

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Speaker 3: the one that I wanted from the Huskies when they

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Speaker 3: were in Wisconsin. Just don't hand the opponent the game.

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Speaker 3: Did you like how conservative the Hawks were, and is

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Speaker 3: that the best game plan for this offense going into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm yes, if I take your question literally,

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Speaker 2: I think it was a good game plan for Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: I think you were I think the game plan, you

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Speaker 2: know modified, you know, what is the game plan, what

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Speaker 2: you thought going into the game, and then what is

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Speaker 2: the adjustments and then how do you play it? You know,

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Speaker 2: there's those are blurred lines, right, And I think as

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Speaker 2: the game evolved, you saw how dominant Seattle was not

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Speaker 2: just against the forty nine run offense, but how they

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Speaker 2: just played out that way. But I'm a little bit

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Speaker 2: if we if we're gonna take the helicopter and raise

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Speaker 2: broader discussion this this idea that Sam Donald is just

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Speaker 2: you just manage, anybody can win. I think that is

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Speaker 2: a load of crap. Sam Donald, I'm gonna I'll give

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Speaker 2: we're on radio, say I if you ever ever heard

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Speaker 2: a national commentator say Russell Wilson throws the best deep

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. You guys are freaking on it man, Monday,

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Speaker 2: we're sharp. Well, you're asking easy questions man here on

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Speaker 2: passes over thirty yards, right, Like that's where you're going

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson the Super Bowl year, he completed twenty eight

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Speaker 2: points six called twenty nine percent of his passes where

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Speaker 2: Russ's career, he's thirty six percent. Got me? So, I

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Speaker 2: mean you know the average, by the way, this year,

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Speaker 2: the average is twenty nine percent completion if the ball's

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Speaker 2: in the air over thirty. Second place this year was

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Speaker 2: forty three percent. It's pretty damn good, right balls in

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Speaker 2: there over thirty. Sam Donald was fifty eight percent far away,

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Speaker 2: number one in the NFL and one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: throwing more than thirty years, I could inundate you with stafts.

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Speaker 2: Number one quarterback rating on yards of over twenty over thirty,

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Speaker 2: feel like I can see this conversation getting shoehorned into

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Speaker 2: Seattle's got this great defense. Oh they're running the ball now,

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Speaker 2: you know they've got this this. You know, Trent Dilford

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Speaker 2: tight quarterback. I look at the passing I have in front,

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Speaker 2: passing first downs. Sam Donald has three and a half

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Speaker 2: so let's Sam Donald still has a he has shown

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Speaker 2: obviously not complaining about what happens Saturday night, right, that

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Speaker 2: was beautiful football, Right, but let's just let's give Sam

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Speaker 2: Donald his due about his ability to put the ball

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Speaker 2: down the field to make play. Thousand percent deserves it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So if we're gonna win a title, let's nitpick a

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's not sit around and just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're all good. Let's go through this thing with a

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Speaker 1: They'll be at the facility, they will live at the

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Speaker 1: for any advantage. And if we're talking about this thing

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Speaker 1: sync YOUA one missed opportunity can syncia. I want you

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Speaker 2: And in the red zone fringe. Well, it starts on

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Speaker 2: so they've got to clean that up. I think that

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Speaker 2: they needs to take some shots, right. You know some

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Speaker 2: record for points. But you're asking me about red zone

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Speaker 2: a shot. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna go touchdown, checkdown, touchdown, checkdown.

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Speaker 2: That's how quarterbacks are often taught, Like we're gonna give

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Speaker 2: If you like one of it, smoke it in there.

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Speaker 2: If you don't like it, just hit the checkdown, right,

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Speaker 2: Like if the light's not green, then take the checkdown.

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Speaker 2: Sot of trying to get seven yard completions, co try

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Speaker 2: because you know Dilford. You know he had Jamal Lewis

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Speaker 2: I'm not convinced. And look, I'm glad to be proven wrong.

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Speaker 2: I told you guys a month ago, I don't see

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Speaker 2: the running game turning around. Well guess what it's turned

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Speaker 2: I still think that there may be some times where

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Speaker 2: We got a quarterback who's proven that he can do it.

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Speaker 2: Last year. I looked up all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Last year is fifth in completion percentage on yards over

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Speaker 2: last couple of years. I think some big plays need

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Speaker 2: you got what nine yards out of it? Whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: But they sealed the edge there. Tight ends are blocking

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Speaker 2: to stretch them. Now, those inside runs are working. They're

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Speaker 2: not wasting their time with uh with gap scheme. They

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Speaker 2: tried one power play and Anthony Bradford, you know, just

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Speaker 2: kind of missed the block. It gets gummed up there.

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Speaker 2: Ken Kubiak didn't go back to it the rest of

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Speaker 2: the night. He had one trap that they don't run

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Speaker 2: uh Kubiak just said, Hey, I'm gonna go inside zone,

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Speaker 2: I keep I think they keep it clean, and you know,

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Speaker 2: they're blocking better, they're just communicating. Timing's better on their

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Speaker 2: double teams moving up to the second level and and

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Speaker 2: so yeah, it's it's it's obviously about time and and

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Speaker 1: Well, the other guy that's been back now is Robbie Huts.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's back and they're kicking ass in the

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Speaker 2: Well, it was his second most number of snaps the

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Speaker 1: at this point, Hugh if they did not minimum win

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Speaker 2: Uh, okay, I'd be disappointed. I'd be a little bit

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Speaker 2: They did exactly what we said that is likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: When Kenny Walker converted that run on third and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, there's a little Tito's talking.

429
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Speaker 2: Ye okay during that thing.

430
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Speaker 1: But you know what's funny about that because I saw

431
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Speaker 1: your tweet, I saw Andrews smartass response as well on

432
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Speaker 1: social media. I don't know if today's the day to

433
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Speaker 1: have that conversation. Maybe when the season's over, maybe we

434
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Speaker 1: do a bracket of the biggest plays of the year

435
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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. But the Zach Charbonay two point conversion,

436
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Speaker 1: I think you said was bigger right against the Rams.

437
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Speaker 2: So the staburd to win the game.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, Okay, sharbon one too well, because the Sharbonney one

439
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: happened with six minutes to.

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Speaker 2: Go in the game.

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Speaker 1: I understand, and look at look at the I'm just

442
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Speaker 1: gonna say in Jackson, I'm not saying you're wrong at all.

443
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Speaker 1: By the way, Okay and Dick, whatever comes out of

444
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Speaker 1: your mouth, I probably agree with you. Go back and

445
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Speaker 1: look at the win probability. After Kenny Walker converted that

446
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: run on third and seventeen, it changed, It changed, and

447
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: it changed in the Seahawks favor. But I just think

448
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Speaker 1: there's an argument to be made. Maybe it's an argument

449
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Speaker 1: that will eventually come back to your take. Jackson on

450
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: the sober two point point conversion against the Rams. I

451
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: wonder where that fricking run would rank on the all

452
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Speaker 1: time best moments of the year, because that broke them.

453
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Speaker 2: It was, it would rank very, very high.

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Speaker 3: I mean when I go back to that Rams game though,

455
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Speaker 3: just being in the stadium, from deflation to elation in

456
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Speaker 3: five seconds, right, Rashid Shaheed oh Rashi, I took that

457
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Speaker 3: place from we are going to lose this game to

458
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Speaker 3: oh my god, We're a touchdown down with eight minutes left.

459
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Speaker 2: We might win this game.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

461
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's like, okay, let's go back

462
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Speaker 2: to our seats. Exactly right.

463
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Speaker 1: People that were leaving the stadium to go to Jimmy's

464
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Speaker 1: like me, I'll admit it, I got.

465
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Speaker 2: No problem gone, or did you?

466
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Speaker 1: I took off to mix up the mojo and go

467
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Speaker 1: across the street to a bar, and the minute we

468
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Speaker 1: walked into Jimmy's, it was just like the Packer game

469
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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. Everything started changing. We stayed there at

470
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Speaker 1: the bar, probably way too long and enjoyed that comeback

471
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Speaker 1: against the Rams. But just going back to what he

472
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Speaker 1: was saying last segment, and look, I'm just guys, I'm

473
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Speaker 1: just speaking for myself, and I feel like after thirty

474
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Speaker 1: two years, I got to remind people of that. I'm

475
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Speaker 1: not telling you how to think. You think whatever the

476
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Speaker 1: hell you want to think. I got one mouth, Thank god,

477
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Speaker 1: I got one opinion, and it's mine. I don't want

478
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Speaker 1: to get into a habit or even think about, Hey,

479
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Speaker 1: if they lose the NFC Championship or they lose in

480
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Speaker 1: the second round, it's okay, because the Hawks are going

481
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Speaker 1: to be fine down the road. I think they probably

482
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Speaker 1: will be, but god darn it, who knows what the

483
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Speaker 1: hell tomorrow is going to bring. Go ask the Lions

484
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Speaker 1: about that. The Lions led the forty nine ers twenty

485
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Speaker 1: four to ten. Remember that two years ago at halftime

486
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Speaker 1: of the NFC Championship, and now they're done. Go ask

487
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Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen Z one thousand percent. Go ask them

488
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Speaker 1: about that opportunity. So I just want to approach this

489
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Speaker 1: playoff run guys, as if this is it. This is

490
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Speaker 1: the last time you got to sell balls out to

491
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Speaker 1: the wall. Win this thing. You know, what if they

492
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Speaker 1: come back next year and Sam Darnold gets hurt. What

493
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Speaker 1: if they have a massive of injuries like the Lions

494
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Speaker 1: did on defense last year and they're banged up. You

495
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Speaker 1: and I were talking off the year right about how

496
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Speaker 1: lucky they for the most part been.

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Speaker 3: Other than the first month of the season, this team

498
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Speaker 3: has been knock on woods, magically healthy.

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Speaker 1: So how can we turn that down? We have to

500
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Speaker 1: take advantage of this, guys. This doesn't happen very often.

501
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Speaker 1: Where you're healthy, you're good, You're playing your best football

502
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And oh, by the way,

503
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Speaker 1: the league's wide open. Everything is setting up. I mean,

504
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: how do we know what Mahomes is going to do

505
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Speaker 1: next year, or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or the

506
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles or anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yes, next season, the.

508
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Speaker 3: Vegles might pull their head out and Joe Burrow might

509
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Speaker 3: be turning the parody.

510
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Speaker 2: In the NFL right now that I've seen in a decade.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we're disagreeing with you, softie. I think

512
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Speaker 4: we're arguing semantics. I think I think what Dick and

513
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Speaker 4: I are saying is that it's a it's a disappointment

514
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Speaker 4: of a certain degree if we lose to anybody but

515
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Speaker 4: the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Versus losing the Rams are good.

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Speaker 4: We can all agree we would all be disappointed if

518
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Speaker 4: they don't make the Super I just.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to changes. Yes, and I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I am just like the Mariners right with the run

521
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Speaker 1: they had a couple of years ago when they led

522
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Speaker 1: the league in era and didn't even.

523
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Speaker 2: Make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You know, Uh, go ask the freaking Pacers how they

525
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Speaker 1: feel right now?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Did they go to Game seven

527
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: last year? Yeah? And then Halliburton gets hurt and now

528
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Speaker 2: they they still almost won. Now they're terrible. They're one

529
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Speaker 2: of the worst teams. They are awful.

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Speaker 1: All right, So guys, this I mean again, you do

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Speaker 1: what floats your own boat. But for me, this idea

532
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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna sit here and say, well, it's okay,

533
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Speaker 1: because that'll be good for a while.

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Speaker 2: How the hell do I know that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: I think they will be, But nothing's freaking guaranteed, dude.

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Speaker 1: All I know is that right now we have a

538
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Speaker 1: kick ass football team with a great freaking chance to

539
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Speaker 1: win another Lombardi.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just think that. I don't disagree with

541
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Speaker 2: anything you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I just I think we've passed the point where the

543
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season can be looked at as a disappointment.

544
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Speaker 3: Though that for me, I mean, now, obviously that's your take. Obviously,

545
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Speaker 3: if Carol beats the Rams and comes here and wins,

546
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Speaker 3: that would feel a lot different than if the Rams

547
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Speaker 3: went to beat Carolina and came.

548
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Speaker 2: Here to win, A lot different.

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Speaker 1: If something like that got it just makes you want

550
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Speaker 1: to vomit thinking about it. Right, If you talk about

551
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: letting the air in the balloon, holy cow, if something

552
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: like that happened, I think we're angry on the air Monday.

553
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Speaker 2: I think you're pissed off Carolina beats us.

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Speaker 1: I think you're doing a postgame show with you, and

555
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: I think you're you're angry. I think you're angry at

556
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Speaker 1: the football team. Well, because you're mad at the players.

557
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: You're pissed off at the players because.

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Speaker 3: The only way they lose that game is if they

559
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Speaker 3: hand it to Carolina totally. That's kind of where Jackson

560
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: and I are, Whereas you don't have to hand the

561
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Speaker 3: games game to the Rams for the Rams to beat you.

562
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Speaker 3: The Rams can just beat you straight up. But the

563
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Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers need two, three, four massive mistakes by you in.

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Speaker 2: Order to come here and win.

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Speaker 1: They would need you to show up like like Romart

566
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Speaker 1: would always talk about, with the cool jackets and just

567
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: walk in there. You don't have to do jack squad

568
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: and your energy is like sin, like you're just out

569
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Speaker 1: all night partying. You know, you don't care, you're not

570
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: sleeping whatever, didn't even shower.

571
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Speaker 2: The hell with it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna wear pads, show up and just

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Speaker 1: do whatever I want. That would be a situation where

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Speaker 1: I think the fans would get really mad at this

575
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: football team, and you know what do I see? Like

576
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Speaker 1: you could offer me, honestly a million to one odds

577
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Speaker 1: on a dollar on that happening, and I probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take it.

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Speaker 2: That'd be a waste of a dollar.

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Speaker 1: That's how confide. McDonald does not show will never never.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you guys have heard

582
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Speaker 1: like I have that. You know, Mike McDonald doesn't really

583
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Speaker 1: reveal a lot to the media.

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Speaker 2: You guys know that, really, I didn't know that.

585
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not Pete Carroll right, kind of keeps

586
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Speaker 1: things close to the vest.

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Speaker 2: Aka is kind of boring, but that's okay. When game,

588
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Speaker 2: Why would he cares?

589
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Speaker 1: I've heard that he is a ball buster behind the scenes,

590
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: massive ballbuster.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to be that discipline.

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Speaker 1: Your ass about a lot of things, by the way,

593
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And for a thirty six year old

594
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Speaker 1: guy whatever he is, thirty seven now to do something

595
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: like that shows how much confidence he's got. That's why

596
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: just keeps, you know, all this stuff, Like I was

597
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: texting John Michael's our buddy Atlanta Fawcons. Apparently you're looking

598
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Speaker 1: at Clint Kubiak and guys, I would not hire Clint

599
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Speaker 1: Kubiak to be a head coach. I think there's a

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00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: lot of great assistant coaches out there that are lifers,

601
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Speaker 1: that have the personality to be a mad scientist behind

602
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: the scenes, but they don't have the chops to be

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Speaker 1: a CEO and a commander of a football team, either

604
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Speaker 1: college level or the NFL. And I may be wrong,

605
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: but from the limited time Dick that I've seen and

606
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Speaker 1: been around Clint Kubiak, I don't see him as a

607
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Speaker 1: CEO of a football team. I see him as a

608
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Speaker 1: button pushing, mad scientist lab rat that knows how to

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Speaker 1: scheme up on offense, knows how to put guys in

610
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Speaker 1: the right position. I think he's been great at it

611
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Speaker 1: this year. I'd like to see Clint stay somewhere for

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Speaker 1: the first time in five years and come back here

613
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Speaker 1: next season. I think Atlanta hiring him as a head

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Speaker 1: coach fan would be a mistake.

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Speaker 3: There is a certain level of presence, There's a certain

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Speaker 3: level of charisma that I feel like an NFL coach

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Speaker 3: has to have, right and we have had that here

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Speaker 3: and certainly and Mike Holmgre and he had an amazing presence.

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Speaker 3: Car and Pete Carroll and Mike McDonald different but still

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Speaker 3: has that still has that presence, and that present is

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Speaker 3: only going to grow as his experience and his success grows.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if Clint Kubiak has that.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, and again I could be wrong.

624
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Speaker 1: And I don't know what Arthur Blank values. I mean,

625
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Speaker 1: he may just want the schematic guy. You know, he

626
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: may not give it. Them about his personality, I mean,

627
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: they say they had Arthur Smith down there and he

628
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: was boring as a box of rocks and just couldn't

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Speaker 1: motivate squat down there. So I don't know, man, I

630
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Speaker 1: just I mean, look, if he wants to do it,

631
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Speaker 1: and he gets off for the job, good for him.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: If he feels like he's ready, good for him. But

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Speaker 1: I think he's better off as an assistant. I think

635
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: he's better off staying here, being in OC somewhere else

636
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Speaker 1: if he wants to move on one day. All right,

637
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Speaker 1: we're gonna break textimonials. You cool that next segment, and

638
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Speaker 1: then Walter Jones set the joining us at five, we'll

639
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Speaker 1: do our Seahawk Opponent audio recap with the forty nine

640
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Speaker 1: er radio crew. Good god, how fun is this going

641
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Speaker 1: to be? Coming up? At five point twenty eight today,

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Speaker 1: right here on ninety three three KJRFL extremely

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Speaker 2: Difficult, or they were so close, so close,