1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you Boston's Beach Radio. Well, happy Monday everyone. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: A friend of mine calls Monday moon Day. But it 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: is a happy Monday because this gives us five days, 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: five days. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: Friday to chat and talk back and forth and interview 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: guests and talk ask questions of different and interesting people. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: We are about to wrap up the month of March, 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: and it looks as if March is gonna end fairly quietly. 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: It's been a cold month and we were on to April. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: The Red Sox will be home by Friday night. They'll 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: open up on Friday night. So all's right with the world. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Baseball is in order. Rob Brooks also is back in 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: the control room. He had some time off a couple 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: He's doing just great. 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: And also on a very positive note. I just had 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: a really lovely conversation with our friend of many many years, 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: decades in fact, Jordan Rich, who I think all of 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, is dealing with a couple of medical issues 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: on his own, but he sounded remarkably strong. He is 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: becoming sort of a boxer by necessity, the conditioning and 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: the discipline of boxing and the footwork and the combinations 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: have been of great help to Jordan. And he just 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: sounded terrific tonight. Just on the phone with him for 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: a few minutes before the show, and I was kidding 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: him back and forth, and we're very close friends and 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: good friends, and I just am happy to report he 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: sounded fabulous. So what's coming up tonight, Well, a little 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: bit later on tonight, we're going to talk about a 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: suggestion that I would like to make, and that is 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: that going forward, if there is ever a situation like 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: this horrific set of circumstances that were imposed upon TSA 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: agents around the country, agents who had if any capacity, 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: government workers have any capacity go to work and they 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: are not going to be paid, then Congress should not 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: be paid. We'll talk about that. And also the situation 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: in Iran is did not look great over the weekend. 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: There was a huge plane that was hit by Iranian 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: rockets at a Saudi US plane and a wax which 43 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: basically are critical. There's only about thirteen of them in 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: the in existence, and we're going to talk to all 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: of that. I guess the question is going to be 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: did the Trump administration under estimate the resilience of the 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Iranian military? Maybe that will change. I guess we can 48 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: only hope so. But we have four great guests here 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: in the eight o'clock ur. We're starting off with doctor 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: Aisha Mannering. She's a pediatrician, but he's also just as 51 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: importantly a parent, and she's gonna address a concern about 52 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: makeup companies marketing products to kids, in some cases kids 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: under ten, uh, and to boys and girls, but I 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: assume more so to girls. And actually some governments around 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: the world have been investigating some of these companies. Uh, 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: Doctor Aisher Mannering, Welcome to Nightside. 57 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Happy Monday, Dan, thank you for having me or Monday. 58 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: As a friend of mine? 59 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: Call exactly. 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all sorts of nicknames for Monday. That's one 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: I can use in the air. Anyway, what's going on here? 62 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: I see the idealized versions of people. The movie stars have, 63 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, brushed up photographs so they look just perfect. 64 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: Has this really seek seeping down to kids with their 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: their image of their self images and they now are 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, using makeup and cosmetics before they turn ten 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: years old? What are we doing to our kids? 68 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, unfortunately, I am seeing this trend in 69 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: younger and younger kids. You know, I've worked with kids 70 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: for about fifteen years or so, a little over now 71 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: and probably in the past like two to three years. 72 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 3: You know, I've seen younger kids like maybe like anywhere 73 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: from like eight nine, ten, and then it's between years. 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: They are using multiple products for skincare routines, anti aging routines, 75 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: and and yes, makeup as well. But you know, it's 76 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: really this like increase in being obsessed with our skin 77 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: and preventing wrinkles and things like that that I've seen 78 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: as somewhat of an alarming change that I think we 79 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: as parents really need to pay attention to. 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Well. 81 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: I have to assume that the is related to Internet 82 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: and Facebook and Instagram and TikTok, where a lot of 83 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: these children think that the most important thing is not 84 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: the familiar relationship or how they're progressing in school at 85 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: whatever age they are, but they all assume that somehow 86 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: they're all going to become movie stars. I know that 87 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: there's always been people in this country, people who have 88 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: aspired to unrealistic careers, But what fault or what responsibility 89 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: is it to the parents of these thoughts. 90 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I think you absolutely need to start having these 91 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: conversations at home. I mean all of this kind of 92 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: starts in the home to some degree, because you know, 93 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: we're going to face these challenges. Social media is here 94 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: to stay. AI is here to stay. We have to 95 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: kind of learn it, understand it, and help our children 96 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: navigate around it because you know, we had the opportunity 97 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: to exist in a world that didn't have such a 98 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: predominance of these things. But our children, I mean, this 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: is what they know, and you know it's not going anywhere. 100 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: So that social obsession with perfection when it comes to 101 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: beauty using you know, filters and photoshop and AI, I 102 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: mean that is around his stay. So you kind of 103 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: have to start talking to your kids about really, you know, 104 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: what makes us a good person that we like being, 105 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: and you know what what do we consider to be 106 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: values that we want to put out into the world. 107 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: And we need to also help our kids navigate how 108 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: to build their own confidence so that they are not 109 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: just completely obsessed with this idea of beauty and perfection 110 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 3: and chasing it all the time. 111 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: Right, But as they spend time being obsessed with anything, 112 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: if if if. Some we see parents who make sure 113 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: that their their their children are playing sports, which is 114 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: a great positive activity, but some parents kind of lose 115 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: it and assume that because their kid can scate or 116 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: because their kid can. 117 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: Bounce, they're going to be a number one draft choice 118 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: in the NHL or the NBA. Yeah, realistic, big country 119 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: out there, a. 120 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: Lot of people, but this idea of what do I 121 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: look like, how do I appear to my friends? That's 122 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: tied up in everything that they're about, because so much 123 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: of it is what their identity is. How many friends 124 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: do they have? Am I in with the cool crowd? 125 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: We've always had that, We've always had that, but it 126 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: seems to be more intensified, and I can only assume 127 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: it is so much. 128 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: I agree. 129 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: I agree, Dan, And I think part of it too is, 130 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: like you know, you mentioned we kind of tend to 131 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: live in this like extreme culture not you know, it 132 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: can't be enough that our kid loves to play a 133 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: certain sport. But if they show interest and they're pretty good, 134 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: then we're already thinking, hey, what else can we do 135 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: and how can we get them to the top level? 136 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: Instead of stepping back and saying, hey, you know, he 137 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: likes this, This is great, he's happy, and he's building 138 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: his confidence. But I think part of it is that we, 139 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: you know, almost have like lost a little bit of 140 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: family connection sometimes when our lives are so busy and so, 141 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, we're not necessarily spending that quality family time 142 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: as much every day. And I think with social media 143 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: taking off and younger and younger kids having access to it, 144 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: you know, they tend to look to these influencers as 145 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: their role models. And when these influencers are looking so perfect, 146 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: you know, all the time, of course, probably with the 147 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: help of some additional you know, filters or photoshop, they 148 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: tend to like you know, use them as the standards, 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: which is just not realistic. You know, it's not it's 150 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: okay to be at that age and be more interested 151 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: in appearance or be more conscious of hygiene. But what 152 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: they're having to deal with now that we necessarily didn't 153 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: necessarily have to deal with is that like perfection ideal 154 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: that's so in their spaces all the time, it's everywhere. 155 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: I have one article that I think you folks might 156 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: have sent to us or is in their company article 157 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: we c NBC that said that the government of Italy 158 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: is investigating I don't even know these companies. There's a 159 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: tool so for and benefit over skincare marketing to children. 160 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: What's that? 161 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: Yes, So those are two major retailers of skincare products 162 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: and makeup products, and the ag c M, the Italian 163 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: Competition Authority, has launched investigations last week into these retailers 164 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: for you know, quote unquote unfair commercial practices, stating that 165 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: they failed to label the products as you know, not 166 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: being intended for minors, and that they have what they 167 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: call insidious marketing strategies, which it kind of seems like, 168 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: you know, these these brands, these retailers have a big 169 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: online in presence of big social media following, and they 170 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: have there's a lot of influencers who are kind of 171 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: promoting the products sold by the retailers and you know, 172 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: not necessarily saying hey, by the way, these are not 173 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: intended for kids, and the companies themselves are not labeling 174 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: them as such. So that's what that investigation is about. 175 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: Well, look, I appreciate your information. How can folks, if 176 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: folks are interested, do you have a website? A lot 177 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: of the people who come on as guests on our 178 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: program have recently written a book or they have a website. 179 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure you you don't need more more patients in 180 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: your practice, but how can people get in touch with 181 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: how could they follow you, doctor Mannering? 182 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. You know I do the platform I've developed. 183 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: It's called MB and you can search for it on 184 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: you know YouTube. I have a YouTube channel, I have Instagram, Facebook, 185 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: all the social media and we talk about all kinds 186 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: of interesting topics like this. So yes, I appreciate. 187 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: That you broke up when you gave us the name 188 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: of the website. 189 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: Yes, it's in tune MD and you can search for 190 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: that on YouTube or Instagram, Facebook. 191 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure with my into 192 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: I N t O and. 193 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: Enved it's in tune m D, I N t U 194 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: n E M D in. 195 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: Tune envy okay and one word or do you split 196 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: them up as. 197 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: So it's in tune is one word and then MD 198 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: like medical. 199 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: Doctor okay in tune MD. Perfect. Perfect. 200 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all sorts of websites that you'll be people will 201 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: be able to reach it. Doctor Mannwick, thank you very 202 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: much for your time tonight. I'd love to have you back. 203 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. 204 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 205 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk again, will We're gonna come When we come back, 206 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking with a lone expert about 207 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: maybe some numbers that are going to frighten you. About 208 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: consumer debt in the US. It has hit a record 209 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: eighteen point eight trillion dollars. Hopefully you not in involved 210 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: in that, but if you are, if you aren't, going 211 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: to listen to our next loan expert, Jack Wallace, coming 212 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: back on Nightside. You're on night Side with Dan Ray 213 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: ONBZ Boston's news radio. Delighted to be joined by Jack Wallace. 214 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: He's a lone expert with why refive? The statistics on 215 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: how much Americans owe at this point are devastating, Jack Wallace, 216 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside, Dan. 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: It's nice to be back with you and to your listeners. 218 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: Consumer debt in the US at the end of twenty 219 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: twenty five, three months ago was at a record eighteen 220 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: point trillion dollars. Now, this has nothing to do with 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: the federal debt. How have we got to the point 222 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: as a country where we owe so much in debt 223 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: eighteen point eight trillion dollars. 224 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 4: Well, we don't have a good examp from the federal 225 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: government with the amount of debt that they owe. But 226 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: you're right, Dan, I mean post COVID, we're back to 227 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: debt levels. I mean neo student loans are at one 228 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: point seven trillion, credit cards or back up to one 229 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: point three trillion, and auto delinquencies in defaults or in 230 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: fifteen year highs. I mean, the consumer from a debt standpoint, 231 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 4: is not in very good shape. 232 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: So the question is, and everyone's different. So, however, many 233 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: thousands of people are tens of thousands of people are 234 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: hearing your voice right now. We see that inflation is 235 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: going up as a result of what's going on halfway 236 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: around the world. If people want to try to refi 237 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: and consolidate the debt, is that debt just going to 238 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: be too much for most people to swallow? Or or 239 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: is the idea of consolidating the debt keeping it a 240 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: little simpler. 241 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: Is that always a good idea? 242 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: Well, Consolidating the debt makes you hopefully do a better 243 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: job of paying so you don't become delinquent, will become defaulted, 244 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: particularly in the area of student loans or even credit cards, 245 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: where you have multiple student loans for each year, you're 246 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: in college or people have multiple credit cards, and so 247 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: if you get it down to one payment a month, 248 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: your likelihood of going twinkler and defaulted will go down, 249 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: which will help your credit score and hopefully keep it 250 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: flat or let it or help it go back up. 251 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: But I mean, the big issue is we've got to 252 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: get back to what we've talked about before, Dan, is 253 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: the budgeting and the fifty to thirty twenty rule. And 254 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: you know that's the one where fifty percent is mandatory 255 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: and necessities, thirty percent is discretionary, and twenty percent is 256 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: either debt reduction or savings for either college or for retirement. 257 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: And we've got to take a hard look at that stuff. 258 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: And there's no better time to do it right now, 259 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: because you're in tax season and most people are either 260 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: looking at or have looked at what they spent last year, 261 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: and we've got to go back and look. You know 262 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: a lot of people put in the mandatory category stuff 263 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: that should be in the discretionary category. And you know 264 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: those four Starbucks a day, first of all, they should 265 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: be drinking dunk and don't copy absolutely on that the 266 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: other stuff. But you're right, I mean, you know, you 267 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: got to reevaluate your definition of discretionary. I mean, the 268 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: other thing going on right now is, you know, while 269 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: you're looking or at your tax returns to be filed, 270 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: you know, did you have to come up with money 271 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: to pay your tax boot this year? Or are you 272 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: taking enough money out? And if you're taking enough money out, 273 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: he's taking too much money out. But when you get 274 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: that tax refund in the next couple of weeks, the 275 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: next couple of months, you know what's deploy that in 276 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: a positive way of either reducing the deck or putting 277 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: it away for the college five twenty nine plan, or 278 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: for your kids, or for your own retirement plan. 279 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's also little things. It's funny we think alike. 280 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: Particularly I love Dunkin Donuts, but I do not mind 281 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: Dunkin Donuts coffee at Dunkin Donuts coffee shops. I buy 282 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: the Dunkin Donuts at the supermarket and I make my 283 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: own coffee because you know, it saves money. I mean, 284 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: obviously now I will go in and buy buy a glazstick. 285 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: That's my go to after I work. 286 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: Out here. 287 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: My reward and right, you know, But but every time 288 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, Okay, It's taken me a month 289 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: to go through this, uh, this package of dunkin Donuts. 290 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: I would have you know, I know, I know that's 291 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: one way I. 292 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: Can beat the system and got to come up with 293 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: those ways. And I know that right now interest rates 294 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: are going to be going up. Probably if people were 295 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: going to refin, they might think about doing it as 296 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: quickly as they can before these interest rates go up, 297 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: because I think they are going to be trending up 298 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: with in the next couple of months, no matter what happens, 299 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: if things go well or badly in Iran. 300 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't want I'm not. 301 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: Right, because we did see three rate reductions last year, 302 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: so people probably haven't thought about what you just brought 303 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: up a refine debt in a while, so you want 304 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: to take advantage of that, the reduction of three quarters 305 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: of one percent, and if your credit score went up 306 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: instead of going down, you may even get more of 307 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 4: a reduction in a refine than what you thought you 308 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: were going to get. So I think it's another timely 309 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: opportunity to lower the debt load and increase your savings. 310 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 311 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: One of the things is that there's an old joke, 312 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: as they say, when was the best time to plant 313 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: a tree, and the best time to plant a tree 314 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: was yesterday or maybe six months or six years ago. 315 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: The best time to get a loan, you know, to 316 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 2: to reduce your debt is probably last month. Uh if 317 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: you wait two or three more months, I suspect those 318 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: those the cost of borrowing money consolidating alone is only 319 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: going to be going up again. No one can predict 320 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: the future, but it's something people at least should think about. 321 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: Now you're with why REFI. So if folks want to 322 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: get some information, how can how can we give get 323 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: some they can listen and build on what we've just 324 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: talked about. 325 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: What's the easiest, well. 326 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: You to whyrefin dot com. But one of the things 327 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: that we want to talk just a couple of seconds about, 328 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: Dan is you've got over a million barrows with student 329 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: loans up there in Massachusetts, and there's been some noise 330 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: in the press over the last ten days about Treasury. 331 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: You're taking over the collections of the federal student loan 332 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: debt program and you know less than third people don't 333 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: realize this, but you know, you get one hundred and 334 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: eighty billion dollars, nine million people in the fault that's 335 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: the bigger than the ASNL crisis was in the eighties 336 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: and nineties. And only thirty eight percent of people that 337 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: have a federal student loan and there's forty three million 338 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 4: of them are the one point seven trillion dollars outstanding 339 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 4: are on time. So they've really got to pay attention 340 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: here because you know, all of the COVID exemptions and 341 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: special situations have now expired, all the Biden forgiveness programs 342 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 4: that got declared unconstitutional because he tried to do it 343 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: on his own without going through the Congress and getting 344 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 4: it passed by Congress that way. So you've got a 345 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: lot of people that were confused, but you know, it's 346 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: time to pay the pipers they took out us to 347 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: and loan they didn't get a grant. And so you know, 348 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: people are seeing particularly their credit scores as loans went 349 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: back into repayment in October twenty three. I mean, you're 350 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: seeing numbers that are going you know, the credit score 351 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: is going down anywhere is from fifty to one hundred 352 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: and seventy six points. And the higher your credit score 353 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: was to begin with, the bigger the hit you're going 354 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: to take. So we really want to pay attention. You're 355 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 4: you know I can't tell you how timely your broadcast 356 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 4: is tonight. 357 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, hopefully a lot of folks are going to pay 358 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: attention to what you suggested and why refly is available. Jack, 359 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: I'm into my newscast here, so my producer is going 360 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: to be in my ear in a second. We will 361 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 2: do this again. Let's come back and we'll do it 362 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: at some point in the later on in the spring. 363 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: Fair enough, did we lose Jack there, Well, please jump 364 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: on there and make sure that I don't want to 365 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: think I I cut him off. When we come back, 366 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: we're going to talk to the young James Brown. The 367 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: James Brown Saved Boston Festival Music Festivals coming up this Sunday, 368 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Easter Night at the Russell Auditorium from six to ten pm. 369 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: Tony Wilson, Who Knew James Brown and basically is a 370 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: James Brown music repetition. 371 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: You'll close your eyes. 372 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: And you're think you're gonna be listening to James Brown, 373 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: but you're gonna be listening to Tony Wilson portraying the 374 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: young James Brown back on Night Side right after the 375 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: break at the bottom of the hour. You're on the 376 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: Night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's news radio. 377 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: All Right, those of you who are music people know 378 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: that James Brown, it's the hardest working man in show business. 379 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: But he also did a really important event here in 380 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: Boston on April fifth, nineteen sixty eighth, the night after 381 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: doctor Martin Luther King was assassinated. And a young man 382 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: who James Brown befriended now portrays in concert the young 383 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: James Brown. That young man is with us. We've publicized 384 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: this event for several years here on Nightside, and I'm 385 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: delighted to welcome back Tony Wilson. Tony, welcome back to 386 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: night Side. 387 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: Hello, Hey you my friend. 388 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: How doing good? 389 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: How are you doing? 390 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: Dad doing Gray? 391 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: Well? This is going to be Is this the fourth 392 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: or fifth year that you have held this concert to 393 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: commemorate what James Brown did. Boston on a night after 394 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: doctor King was assassinated, was like many other American cities 395 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: ready to. 396 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: Explode. 397 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: And James Brown did an entire performance at the Old 398 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: Boston Garden, which was televised here in Boston, and people 399 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: stayed in and they watched the concert as opposed to 400 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: going out in the streets, and and you know, and 401 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: maybe causing a bad situation for everybody. And Tony, that 402 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: is what I think you try to do, is to 403 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: make people aware of what a great public service your 404 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: hero James Brown provided the city of Boston in April, 405 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: actually in the same very night, April fifth, as your 406 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: concert will be this year. 407 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: That's exactly right, Dan, Yeah, this would be our ninth year. 408 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Ninth year. Yeah, time flies, go ahead. 409 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 5: We started twenty seventeen at Roxbury Community College. Mayor Wood 410 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: at that time was a commissioner work for the city council, 411 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 5: I mean, and she attended. So every year we've been 412 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 5: doing it there. We did the Region Theater for a 413 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 5: couple of times, we know, and then after Kobe we 414 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 5: came right ahead to a Boston, the heart of Boston, 415 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: and we've been doing it ever since. And you know, 416 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 5: it's really important to be saved all the momopop stores. 417 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 5: That's what James Brown did, you know, because historically Boston 418 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 5: is the only city that did not burn down after 419 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 5: Martin Luther King's fascination. I mean, there was a little 420 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 5: wires here and there, but you know, pretty much that's 421 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: why they call it, James Brown, say Boston, because everybody 422 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: stayed home and they watched the concert. 423 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: Well that that was the key to the whole story. 424 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: I mean, people wanted to do something, they wanted to 425 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: express themselves. You know, members of the black community had 426 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: just seen a man of peace cut down by an 427 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: assassin's bullet the day before. And I believe that Mayor 428 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 2: Kevin White prevailed upon James Brown to go ahead. I 429 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: think the concert was scheduled, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, 430 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: but he went ahead, did the concert. And I forget 431 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: what television station broadcast that. 432 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: I don't know, Samus w GBH, but it was Okay. 433 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: That's what I might have thought. That's the public broadcasting 434 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: station in Boston. The other stations. We're covering the news story. 435 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: So tell us about the show. What are people going 436 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: to see? You're up on stage Sunday night, April fifth, 437 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: from six to eight pm at the Russell Auditorium, seventy 438 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: one Talbot Avenue in Boston. We'll get to the ticket 439 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: information in a moment. Tell us give us a sense 440 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: of what you're going to be doing on Sunday night. 441 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, it's gonna be from six to ten. Okay, 442 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: six to ten. 443 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I misread it. My mistake. 444 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 5: It's okay. We have a full all musicians from Boston 445 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: band called the Brotherwalk Band. We have Chanelle and the 446 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: Crystals they're performing, of course, and also the legendary Tony 447 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 5: Land blues singer as he's performing, and we're going to 448 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 5: be doing a live James Brown all of the James 449 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: Brown hits. They're going to be doing everything from Tina 450 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 5: Turner to all kinds of different other artists, female artists 451 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: that they're gonna get and this is gonna be a 452 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 5: great event. And the fact that I'm so glad that 453 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 5: it is balls on Easter because everybody, of course they're 454 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: gonna go to church and then they're gonna go eat 455 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 5: at two or three and then they'll be ready to 456 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 5: show off the Easter clothes. So we have a whole 457 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: entertainment lineup from them, you know, with the brother Walk 458 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: Bend and the young James Brown and Chanel and the Crystals, 459 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 5: and of course, you know, we're dedicating to all to 460 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 5: a lot of good people, and you know, we look 461 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 5: at responsors too, but we're doing it. We've already rented 462 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 5: out the rest of auditorium and you know, hopefully we 463 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: can get the mayor to come in and uh and 464 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: open it up for us at six o'clock. 465 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: Now, tickets, I just want people if they have a penner, 466 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: piece of paper and a penn or a pencil, tickets. 467 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: It's a ten dollars donation. But but you can get 468 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: tickets by calling seven seven four two four four seven 469 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: zero one five. That's seven seven four two four four 470 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: seven zero one five. I'll give that number again in 471 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: just a moment. But again it's this Friday night, Easter night. 472 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: I'm actually looking at a poster here, uh, to be 473 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: honest with you, Tony that. 474 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's. 475 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: Said that's a short, short concert for Tony Wilson. Oh no, 476 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: So we. 477 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: Got a big team. 478 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 5: In the break, you don't have intermission for him. You know, 479 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: we didn't want to eat, and you know it's gonna 480 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: be really good. We got we have Ronald Fish, the 481 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 5: flower Man. They all know him, you know. And we're 482 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 5: honoring also Fuquan, which is uh the Harriet Tubman Project, 483 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: you know, because he was released from prison and so 484 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 5: we're gonna uh do a little tribute to him. And 485 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: also Mark Harris had just passed. You know, he was 486 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: our m C for six years. 487 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: Okay, you know this from Luck. There's a lot to 488 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: the show. It is do you do this? 489 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: I know you do that every year, but you also 490 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: you you perform around the country throughout the year. 491 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: Correct. 492 00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 493 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 5: I fronted James Brown band, you know, and I started 494 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 5: off with Boosey Collins and all them. And then now 495 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 5: when I moved from City City like I did Boston, 496 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 5: I make sure I use the Boston musicians here, and 497 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 5: that's everywhere I go Chicago. I'll be made second doing 498 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: James bon Birthday and I'll be out there in Chicago 499 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 5: doing it. But yeah, this is this is the mission, 500 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 5: is to get these Bostonian musicians together to work with 501 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 5: each other. Some of them never even shared a stage together. 502 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 5: So I was so glad we was able to put 503 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 5: that together to Strand. And then now we's at Princeville 504 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 5: last year, and you know this year is gonna be 505 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 5: even better because Russell and the auditorium is newly renovated, 506 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 5: so it's gonna be even great. 507 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: Perfect. So again, his I'm gonna give that ticket. 508 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: That phone number people should call and make a reservation 509 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: seven seven four two four four seven zero one five. 510 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: That's seven seven four two four four seven zero one 511 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: five and they are requesting a ten dollars donation. And 512 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: for the amount of entertainment you're gonna get, it's gonna 513 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: be worth a heck of a lot more than ten dollars, 514 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: trust me. 515 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 516 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 5: Uh, Tony can come and pay at the door too, 517 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 5: And we're gonna, we gonna if they want to meet 518 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 5: us at Slaves tomorrow Tuesday, we'll be we'll be at Slaves. 519 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 5: Tell I take a big time to be there. So 520 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 5: you know, if they call him, we'll meet you out 521 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 5: with the tickets. And if there's bigger groups, we'll get 522 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 5: the tickets to you. You know, a lot of seniors 523 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 5: out there, we know they will come. We look at 524 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 5: Strong and all that, and hopefully we get the city 525 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 5: to come in and do some things, you know with us. 526 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 5: You know we've been reaching out. 527 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well you have you have carried on a 528 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: great tradition, uh of a of a guy who you 529 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: actually met and who kind of took you under his wing. 530 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: And there's there's nobody who who's living the spirit of 531 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: James Brown anymore than my friend Tony Wilson, So uh 532 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: a K eight the young James Brown. 533 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Tony. Thank you so much. 534 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: Man, I gotta I gotta scoot here, and uh thanks 535 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: for joining us again because it will be another great 536 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 2: night here in the city of Boston. 537 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: I'll be all will be able to show off their skills. 538 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 5: Great and I want to let you know our next 539 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: movement I'm doing with Durrell is going to be called 540 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 5: not in my Name looking forward today. Not in my Name. 541 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Durrell is someone who I know very well. Yeah, please 542 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: set to him for me. 543 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, Okay, thanks so much. 544 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 545 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: All right, So that is an Easter Sunday night at 546 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: the Russell Auditorium at seventy one Talbot Avenue in Boston. 547 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: How we get back. We're going to wrap the hour 548 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: with a final interesting guest, and unfortunately, we're going to 549 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: talk about a new mutated COVID variant called cicada that's 550 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: spreading across the US, including in Massachusetts New Hampshire. Doctor 551 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: a regular guest here on the night Side News Update Hour, 552 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: Shira Doctor Shira Duran from the Toughs Hospital and the 553 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: Tofts Medical Center, be back on Nightside right after this 554 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: Side with Yoston's News Radio. Well, we do often have 555 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: on this show, and I am delighted to welcome you back, 556 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: doctor Shira Dorone. 557 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 558 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Doctor Dorone has been a guest in the show and 559 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: she provides I think the clearest information that any medical 560 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: person provides. Doctor Dorone, welcome back to Night's side. I 561 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: know it's not good news tonight, but I know we're 562 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: going to get it from you straight and clearly as always. 563 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 564 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: How are you so good to be with you? 565 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 6: And I think you know tonight I'm going to try 566 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 6: to dispel some of the fear mongering that I've been 567 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 6: seeing in the media about this issue. 568 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: No fear mongering here, We're just looking for facts and information. 569 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: So I love when they use the word this highly 570 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: mutated COVID variant called cicada. The idea, I wish that 571 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: word mutated wasn't in there, but the highly altered or 572 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: the we change variant maybe. And when you think about cicada, 573 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: we think of those little bugs that appear every seventeen 574 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 2: years or something. And but anyway, this this is a 575 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: serious topic. COVID has not gone away. It's never going 576 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: to go away. It's going to be with us for 577 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: a long time. And where did this variant come from. 578 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, so similar to Omicron, which really caused a lot 579 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 6: of suffering, it emerged. It appears that it emerged from 580 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: South Africa. Now it's being nicknamed Cicada. All of these 581 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 6: variants get nicknamed by somebody on social media. It's not official, 582 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 6: so I don't like to use those nicknames. It is 583 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 6: just BA three dot two. And the good news is 584 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 6: it's actually been around since twenty twenty four. So contrast 585 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 6: that to what happened with Omicron where it emerged. We 586 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 6: found out about it on Thanksgiving and by New Years 587 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 6: we were getting completely buried with death and destruction in 588 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 6: the hospital. This has been smoldering, you know, for years now. 589 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: And you say nothing like okay when you say omicron, 590 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: Are you talking about what all of us think of 591 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: as COVID nineteen, which materialized in this country in late 592 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty at that that rest home in Washington, 593 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: D C. And then we had the event here at 594 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: the Long Waff Mary at the real beginning of COVID. 595 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: Is that what you're is that the era we're talking about. 596 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 6: No, I'm talking about what happened a year later after 597 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 6: the vaccine came out, just as the vaccine was being 598 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 6: just as the vaccine was being given out and before 599 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 6: everyone got a chance to take it, and we had 600 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 6: a second wave that was really enormous. That was, you know, 601 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 6: so many people were sick who had been able to 602 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 6: avoid it that we had to change the rules about 603 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 6: you know, how long you had to stay home, so 604 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 6: that people started going to work after five days, remember, 605 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 6: instead of ten. And we really saw it and in 606 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 6: many parts of the country that was actually their bigger wave, 607 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 6: although we had seen you know, our hospitalizations were highest 608 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 6: during the first way, so it was so it came 609 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 6: on like a lightning bulb and this is nothing like that, Okay, So. 610 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: That's comforting, and it's comforting to know that the COVID 611 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: has never gone away. The Boston Globe every week gives 612 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: us that there have been eight hundred and whatever five 613 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: new cases or six hundred and twenty five and two 614 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 2: or three deaths, So it's always been out there, even 615 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 2: if we're not as aware of it. What can people 616 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: do to avoid this again, this new variant or is 617 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: there anything that can be done? I assume there's no 618 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: vaccine that is specific towards this new variant. Too early 619 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: for that that's right. That's right. 620 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 6: So it's out there, it's smoldering, it's spreading around like 621 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 6: all of the other respiratory viruses, and it's really not 622 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 6: more severe anymore than the other respiratory viruses. So we've 623 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 6: got this soup of viruses that people are just always 624 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 6: spreading around. We did not have a winter wave this year. 625 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 6: We got really lucky in that way. We had another 626 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 6: bad flu season, but we didn't have a COVID winter wave. 627 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 6: So now we have this variant that's circulating increasingly, so 628 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 6: still a really small percentage of what we're seeing in 629 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 6: the United States, less than one percent. And it seems 630 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 6: like it may not be a great match to the 631 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 6: vaccine that came out in the last fall. But we 632 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 6: have time because the vaccine strain for next fall hasn't 633 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 6: even been decided yet, and so likely it will be 634 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 6: part of the conversation should this new strain, which appears 635 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 6: not to be a good match to the existing vaccine, 636 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 6: be put into the next vaccine, And so I wouldn't 637 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 6: be surprised to the answers. Yes, and then we'll see that, 638 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 6: you know, become protective against this circulating strain. That is 639 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 6: what we call immune evasive. Now, the existing vaccine, as 640 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 6: we have seen many times that we talk about this 641 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 6: with flu, it still protects against severe disease, hospitalization, and death. 642 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 6: It just isn't going to prevent infection to the extent 643 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 6: that it would if we had a close match. 644 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, I just want to ask you, because I'm 645 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: sure a lot of people out there are saying to themselves, so, gee, 646 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 2: when did I get my last COVID shot? I always 647 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 2: get well a flu shot in September, and of've coupled 648 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: that with a COVID shot. 649 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: They have not merged those two shots. But is it now? 650 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: Is the is the medical theory that once a year, 651 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: when the flu season starts to percolate in the late 652 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: summer early fall, you get a flu shot in a 653 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 2: COVID shot and that does it for the year. What 654 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: is the what's the medical consensus at this point, particularly 655 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 2: for folks who are you know over as I say, 656 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 2: on the wrong side of fifty. 657 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 6: You know, there was an attempt to simplify it to 658 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 6: the degree that you're describing flu in COVID shot. By 659 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 6: September October, you're good for the year. Unfortunately, COVID has 660 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 6: not proven to be seasonal in the way that flu is. 661 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 6: We didn't even have a winter wave. We had more 662 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 6: covid in the summer than we did in the winter. 663 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 5: And the. 664 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 6: Durability, the duration of activity of the covid vaccine is 665 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 6: a lot shorter than the flu vaccine. So now the 666 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 6: recommendation is get one once a year if you have 667 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 6: some risk factors. If you want to get one and 668 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 6: you don't have any resk factors, you can get one too, 669 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 6: And then if you're really high risked, it's to get 670 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 6: one twice a year. 671 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: So and you're talking about the covid shots, you know, 672 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: I always get a flu shot in September because that 673 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: pretty much covers you in terms of flu traditional flu 674 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: through February March, and I've also gotten I've gotten all 675 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: the COVID shots, so I should continue to do that. 676 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: And your advice for others are would probably be the same. 677 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 2: Until the covid thing settles down, it's always going to 678 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 2: be flu. So many people don't want to do the shots. 679 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: That's fine, that's their choice. But for me, I do 680 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: the flu shot, I do the COVID shot. That's not 681 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 2: a case of overkill in my in my situation, I. 682 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 6: Assume right, No, not at all. And even though you 683 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 6: know we are not really necessarily seeing winter with what 684 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 6: we expect to see is a new version of the 685 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 6: vaccine in the fall and smoldering COVID all year, So 686 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 6: it makes sense to go ahead and get that when 687 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 6: it comes out. 688 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 2: Doctor, She wrote, Deron, thank you so much. As always, 689 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: let's keep in touch and let's stay. 690 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Ahead of this this time pleasure. 691 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. All right, goodnight. When we get back, 692 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the TSA. We have talked 693 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 2: about it, the situation. Hopefully the people are getting the 694 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: TSA agents are getting the money in there in their accounts, 695 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: their paychecks. But I think we need to reform here, 696 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: and I think we need to make sure that the 697 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: next type something like this happens. Whoever's causing the problem, 698 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: all members of Congress their pay should be frozen until 699 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: everyone it's back and the government is reopened. 700 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. I'll explain on the other side of 701 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: the nine o'clock News