1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Just wrapped up our conversation with AI analysts and expert 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: David Gartenstein Ross. A lot of comments rolled into Twin 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Cities News Talk on the iHeartRadio app. Those talkbacks are 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: brought to you by Lyndall Realty. Didn't get a chance 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: to get to a lot of them. I may try 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: to hang on to a few of those. We'll talk 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: with David same time, same day next week. If you 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: have any really urgent questions that you would like d 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: V to answer, He's always willing to do so, just 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: drop me an email Justice at iHeartRadio dot com and 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy to go on forward those over to David 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: for him to go and an answer. But really enjoyed 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: the conversation this morning. 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's go here. We got a report yesterday. 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: This came from the Program Integrity Director Tim O'Malley, the 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: man handpicked by Governor Tim Wallas to look into the 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: fraud question in Minnesota. We'll start here from Bill Glahn, 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: Center of the American Experiment, has a short piece up 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: at American Experiment dot org. He highlights an article from 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Channel five. The Program Integrity Director Tim O'Malley unveiled recommendations 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: for combating fraud and state programs on a Monday morning. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: I have a quick suggestion, don't turn a blind eye 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: to it. I have another suggestion, when you have somebody 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: that points out the red flags, don't ignore them. So 25 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: much of this reminds me of healthcare reforms or immigration reforms. 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I feel like there's an attempt to do the same 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: thing here. We don't necessarily need reforms, We just need 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: accountability and we need to have concerned voices not be ignored. Now, 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: it's a little different relating to the fraud. I will 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: admit I'm generalizing when it comes to the fraud. Unfortunately, 31 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: there has been this baked into the program situation that 32 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: allows for fraud to happen more easily than it could. 33 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: So in that case, I agree. 34 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: But even then, if you had accountability taking place within 35 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: state leadership under Democrat control, even if there were low 36 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: barriers of entry and it's easy to go and commit 37 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: acts of fraud because of the way the programs are designed, 38 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: you can still point out when those red flags arise 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: and hold people accountable. Now, Bill Golong goes on to say, 40 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: O'Malley publishes fifty seven page report on the subject. 41 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Although I see fifty six here. It doesn't matter. I'm 42 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: seeing multiple versions of it. He says. 43 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway from the press conference happens when O'Malley 44 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: is asked a question about the root causes of the 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: fraud crisis, and he says bluntly, there's a need for 46 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: a cultural shift within state agencies. Well, yeah, that's what 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. The cultural shift means stop being afraid 48 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: to call out the fraud because unfortunately, you're afraid in 49 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: some cases, for example, being called a racist because there 50 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: is one community that is committing the majority of the fraud, 51 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: and there's been this fear that op if you go 52 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: and point that out, you're a racist or a bigot 53 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: or whatever term people want to use to label an individual. 54 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: To take away from the actual issue, Bill Golong goes 55 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: on to say, I don't believe that it is the 56 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: least a bit partisan to observe that the party, having 57 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: a complete monopoly over the state's executive branch in the 58 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: past sixteen years, is in no position to oversee a 59 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: cultural change. Now further evidence on that point, Governor Tim 60 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Walls appointed Sharen Guy, now serving as a temporary Commissioner 61 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: of human services to a permanent appointment. I will get 62 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: back to that in just a moment, because that in 63 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: and of itself is the height of ridiculousness. Now, O'Malley 64 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: recommends that the compassion oriented should work for providers directly 65 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: serving the needy, rather than in state government overseeing the programs. 66 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: In his report, he includes two recommendations that Bill Glon 67 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: says that he endorses. First, on page eleven, he calls 68 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: for an end to the practice of direct legislative appropriations 69 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: earmarks to service providers nonprofits who get money directly bypassed 70 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the vetting process at the front end and the compliance 71 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: process at the back end. Another idea worth pondering from 72 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: O'Malley's report comes on page ten. Consider incentivizing qualified private 73 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: investigators under law enforcement supervision to assist an asset recovery. 74 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: The incentive would be a percentage of the money recovered 75 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: as a direct result of their efforts. And Bill Glan 76 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: wraps his peace up and says food for thought. Now, 77 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: with this roadmap presented by the new stated Director of 78 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Program Integrity comes what I believe is going to absolutely 79 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: be the talking point for Democrats for the remainder of 80 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: the year to try to wipe their hands of any 81 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: sort of accountability and responsibility of the fraud happening under 82 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: their watch. Looking at the article and the version from 83 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: bringing the news an examination of root causes of fraud 84 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: found some vulnerabilities that have been documented since at least 85 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies. This is going to be the great 86 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: escape for Minnesota Democrats. It's this line of thinking that 87 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Minnesota fraud and the challenges date back for decades. This 88 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: will be the excuse that Governor Tim Walls and other 89 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Democrats will use moving forward. It'll be well, this has 90 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: been you know what, This has been embedded in the 91 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: programs for decades. So Walls in the current DFL cannot 92 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: be blamed for the fraud. But that's not the question 93 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: that should be asked now lawmakers on Monday. I will 94 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: let you know what that question is in just a moment. 95 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: But lawmakers on Monday received the new roadmap in hopes 96 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: of preventing fraud. Tim O'Malley submitted the report to Governor 97 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, who admittedly said he didn't read it. 98 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: Wait what. Speaking to reporters on Monday, Walls said. 99 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: He's not yet read the report, but He thanked O'Malley 100 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: for his work and said the fraud package will be 101 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: going to the legislature to build on steps taking the 102 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: last session. 103 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: Why would he. 104 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Be sending into the legislature if he hasn't even read 105 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: it yet. As somebody pointed out earlier this morning via 106 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: the talkback, and they're absolutely correct, Walls had just said, 107 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: nobody was even worried about the fraud. 108 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: No one would be talking about the fraud except for me. 109 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: And yet his own program integrity director releases a fifty 110 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: six page report and he can't bother to go and 111 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: read it before holding a press conference to detail what's 112 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: in it. What if Wall's disagreed? How was that accountability? 113 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Now that's blind faith, and that's what God is to 114 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: this point in the first place. 115 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: Look, O'Malley seems like an okay dude. 116 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: He is a judge, a former superintendent of the Minnesota 117 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Bureau of Criminal Apprehension former FBI agent. Walls tapped him 118 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: in December to examine the underlying causes of fraud and 119 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: develop an actionable plan to improve the state's long term 120 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: approach to fraud prevention. I believe he's doing his job, 121 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: and I'm not even saying that he's wrong that the 122 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: vulnerabilities have gone back to the seventies. But as I 123 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: mentioned before, okay, so what we have, example after example, 124 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: legitimate whistleblower after legitimate whistleblower, many of them, not just one. 125 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about this next hour regarding the Ice whistleblower, 126 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: which is just the height of again absurdity, but we'll 127 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: put a pin in that. 128 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: I believe this guy is trying to do his job. 129 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: But the real question that needs to be asked is 130 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: when did the rampant fraud start. Well, I can give 131 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: you the answer. It started when Governor Tim Wallas became governor. 132 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: The vulnerabilities may have been there all along, the ability 133 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: to commit fraud easily in these programs the way that 134 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: they're designed might have been there going back to the seventies, 135 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: But I personally don't care because when you have individuals 136 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: who said, hey, listen, we saw the increase in the 137 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: funding requests coming from these social service programs year over year. 138 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: Just exploding. You guys should take a look at this. 139 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: And then those in the upper echelons of government, when 140 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: they're hearing this coming from the DHS employees are like Yeah, 141 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: you know what, don't worry about it, and they just 142 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: keep cutting those checks. 143 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: Don't sweat it. 144 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: The roadmap offers a re engineering to the state's approach 145 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: to fraud, with a wide range of recommendations aimed at 146 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: ensuring accountability and shifting the culture of state agencies. It's 147 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: built on nine pillars, including technology and data, modernization, and 148 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: prosecutorial coordination. Okay, listen, that's all great and finding dandy. Okay, 149 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: I still argue that you don't need any of this 150 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: if you just started holding people accountable, if you just 151 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: let people go and do their jobs. You didn't silence 152 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: them or worse, move them around from departments, threaten them 153 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: with retribution, take them off the jobs, as other individuals 154 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: have said in the whistleblower reporting. The report found that 155 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: Minnesota's challenges with fraud, as I mentioned, or not new. 156 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: According to all mal every administration and legislative body since 157 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies was put on notice for fraud vulnerabilities 158 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: and state programs. Again, this is all about the vulnerabilities 159 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: of the program. There's nothing in this that I've seen 160 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: so far relating to when the rampant fraud started. The 161 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: recent ten billion dollars lost, if not more, That was 162 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: not over decades. No, you're looking at a much smaller window, 163 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: and that's apparent, and that's evidenced when you look at 164 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: the numbers from these various programs. We're gonna talk about 165 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: autism coming up in just a moment. The House Fraud 166 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: Committee yesterday takes aim at autism programs. I have some 167 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: stunning audio you don't want to miss on the way. 168 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: But when you look at those particular programs, you can 169 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: see the year over year dates. Those don't go back decades, 170 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: They go back to like twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, 171 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: maybe twenty twenty one. Stronger prevention measures should have been taken. Yeah, 172 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: I agree with that. This is part part of the report. Repeatedly, 173 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: plans were put in place but not executed effectively. Criminals 174 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: have exploited those long standing vulnerabilities to defraud our state, 175 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: e wrote our public trust and impede the delivery of 176 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: essential services to Minnesota. Again, that is going to be 177 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: the talking point by Democrats. This has been going on 178 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: for decades, So it can't be our fault. No, it 179 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: is their fault. Because the most recent fraud is what 180 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about We're not talking about fraud from twenty 181 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: years ago. We're talking about the fraud that has taken 182 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: place directly under Governor Tim Walls. He went on to say, 183 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: problems that are half a century and the making will 184 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: not be solved easily. The causes are multifaceted. No single 185 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: reform will suffice. Listen, I'm not the expert here. This 186 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: Director of Program Integrity is supposed to be the expert here. 187 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Common sense would tell me that I don't agree with that. 188 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: We have mechanisms in place now to hold people accountable. 189 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: Maybe you need to go and change these programs at 190 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: the legislative level to put in more safeguards. But that 191 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: being said, we already have means and ways to go 192 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: and hold people accountable. It just seems that there's a 193 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: lack of will and desire to go and hold people accountable. 194 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: There's a common theme that we'll get you. I mentioned 195 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: earlier this piece out of Aurora, Colorado. That's really insightful 196 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: when you look at the way that Minnesota in particularly 197 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: are larger metropolitan areas like you know the Twin Cities 198 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: are heading, and how Aurora, Colorado serves as the blueprint 199 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: to what we are going to face. 200 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: The one takeaway from that piece. 201 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Is the fact that in it they say, if you 202 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: want to correct the problem, all it takes is the 203 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: will and desire to go and correct the problem. And 204 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: the Trump administration has shown this. Look at what's taking 205 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: place on our border right now. We've reduced almost to 206 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: zero the number of individuals that have been flooding into 207 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: the country, after somewhere between twenty and forty million were 208 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: allowed to come in. It just took the will and 209 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: desire to go and secure the border, deportations across the 210 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: country and here in Minnesota to get the worst of 211 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: the worst criminals off the street to bite despite the 212 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: ridiculous protests from the anti ice in the liberal crowd, 213 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: it just takes the will and desire to go in 214 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: and execute those warrants. And the same thing rings true 215 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to the fraud. I didn't need a 216 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: fifty six page report or a director of program integrity 217 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: to go and tell me that. I just needed to 218 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: use my brain and common sense that God gave me. 219 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: We'll get to your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app again. 220 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: I have audio to share with you on the way 221 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: further evidence that Governor Tim Walls right now is more 222 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: interested in a grand cover up of all of this 223 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: and pointing other directions than he is actually going and 224 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: tackling the problem. And that certainly was my takeaway when 225 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: Sharen Gandhi was appointed as the permanent DHS Commissioner, especially 226 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: considering that this is the person who oversaw the fraud 227 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: in every single social service program and is now going 228 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: to be the permanent commissioner of DHS. 229 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, make that make sense. Don't go anywhere. 230 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty 231 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: and one three five FM. 232 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: What we're seeing is how the Democrats are covering up 233 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: their fraud that they legislated or have committed over the years, 234 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: or used as training camps for certain groups to commit 235 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: the fraud. You put the fox in charge of the 236 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: hen House, and that's exactly what they're doing, and they're 237 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: continuing to do it by putting these people in place 238 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: that are quote unquote investigating what has happened. When you 239 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: put the fox in charge of the hen House, you 240 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: only cause more products. 241 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, John and Sam. 242 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: Mark Twain once said honesty is the best of all 243 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: lost arts, and we live in a society now where 244 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: it's just not cool to be honest anymore. And when 245 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: we look. 246 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 5: Back to back in the seventies, when you can go 247 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 5: to a gas station, pump your gas and pay inside 248 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 5: later doesn't exist. You have to pay at the pump 249 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: now because people cheat and steal and this is what 250 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 5: has seeped into every facet of our lives and it's 251 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 5: really sad. 252 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 6: Thank you. 253 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: Scott talked back from the iHeartRadio App, brought to you 254 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: by Lyndahl Realty here on Twin Cities News Talking Am 255 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: eleven thirty and one oh three five FM, of course 256 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: worldwide on the iHeartRadio app. If you haven't updated the 257 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: app recently, make sure you do that. Sometimes people running 258 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: some issues and they don't update the app. Beyond not 259 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: being able to take advantage of all the new and 260 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: amazing features that are added constantly for your listening enjoyment, 261 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: especially the presets. Make us number one on your presets, 262 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: we'd appreciate it. 263 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 7: Hey, John, there's an easy way to analyze the fraud 264 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 7: that this guy is overlooking. It's called the eighty twenty analysis. 265 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 7: Eighty percent of the fraud happened in the last twenty 266 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 7: percent of the time, and that last twenty percent of 267 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 7: the time was when Tim Walls was in charge. If 268 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 7: you look at the exponential increases in fraud, all under 269 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 7: his watch, all under him turning a blind eye. The 270 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 7: vulnerabilities have been there, but they were exploited by Tim Walls. 271 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: All I know is that when it comes to fraud, 272 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the time, it's fraudulent. 273 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: Every time you're fascinating to talk to. 274 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 8: You're welcome, yes, well, and desire is important. I wonder 275 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 8: if the report says anything about supervisor responsibility. For example, 276 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 8: if your employee comes up to you and says, hey, 277 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 8: I think there's something fishy here, maybe don't fire them. 278 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 8: Or if they come up and say something seems wrong here, 279 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 8: maybe don't tell them they can't work on that report anymore. 280 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 8: Maybe don't tell them that they're racist. Some of these 281 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 8: things are simple. 282 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: Well, and you do wonder Working off of this story, 283 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: of this fifty six page roadmap for fraud prevention submitted 284 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: to Governor Tim Walls by the new Director of Program Integrity, 285 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: Tim O'Malley. Again, I just want to mention there was 286 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: a press conference about this yesterday. Tim Wall straight up says. 287 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't read it. 288 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: But when he talks in the report, and I'm gonna 289 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: give you know, I'm gonna get this guy a little 290 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: bit of credit. 291 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: I've got no beef with him. He's doing his job. 292 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: But when he says that, you know, there's a culture 293 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: issue here that needs to be looked at. Maybe this 294 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: is what he's referring to. There needs to be a 295 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: cultural shift within state agencies. That could be his way 296 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: of non controversially saying what you just heard in that 297 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: comment from front of the show, Raquel. Somebody says there's 298 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: something fishy, and maybe don't fire them. When somebody says 299 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: there's something wrong, maybe they don't tell them they can't 300 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: work on that report anymore, or maybe don't assign them 301 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: someplace else. The other reason that's happening is because they're 302 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: trying to go and cover this all up. So therein 303 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: lies a big problem. Another big problem is we kind 304 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: of keep the same people that have been responsible for 305 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: over You're seeing these different programs that have found to 306 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: be fraudulent in positions of power. After more than a 307 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: year of leading the Minnesota Department of Human Services on 308 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: an interim basis, Commissioner sharing Gandhi has now been permanently 309 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: appointed to the role. 310 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: A must follow. On x Ann. 311 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Bauer posted this regarding the story from Channel five, wherein 312 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: she said, the person who oversaw run away fraud and 313 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: every social service program under her control has been appointed 314 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: the permanent position in Minnesota because of course, and she's 315 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: right to do otherwise would be somewhat of an admission 316 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: of failure, and Walls simply can't have that. In a 317 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: statement yesterday, Walls said, Commissioner Gandhi understands the protecting public 318 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: programs and delivering high quality care goes hand in hand. 319 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: Over the past years, she has demonstrated steady, decisive leadership 320 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: at the Minnesota Department of Human Services. 321 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. To talk to. 322 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: She should not be the commissioner. This happened under her 323 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: watch on an interim basis. 324 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: But again, to go. 325 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: And not have her be commissioner would almost be an 326 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: admission that, hey, this. 327 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: Fraud actually is taking place and it's important. Nope, can't 328 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: have that. 329 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: Not that big of a deal, because we're now going 330 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: to give this woman the permanent position, even though I 331 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: would argue she's failed in the temporary position. Now also 332 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: from Channel five, and we'll get into more of this 333 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: coming up in the next segment and your comments as 334 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: well from the iHeartRadio app. But a Minnesota House committee 335 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: yesterday sought answers to questions raised by independent third party 336 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: reporting that indicated ninety percent of claims, as we've reported 337 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: on the show previously, for state funds to pay for 338 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: autism services might have been flagged as fraudulent. Let me 339 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: leave you with this clip and then again we'll get 340 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: to your comments and more to this story coming up 341 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: on Twin Cities News Talk. But in this state Autism 342 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: Program hearing, Minnesota state Representative and gubernatorial candidate Christian Robbins 343 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: took time to highlight how the people who are responsible 344 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: for the daily oversight of these clinics live out of state. 345 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: Is just one of the concerning aspects of the fraud 346 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: that has been taking place. 347 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 9: Oppression of female voices and opportunities is at an all 348 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 9: time high in Minnesota. Our daughters deserve privacy they deserve. 349 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 10: Hasn't happened on ownership or on these qsps. So we 350 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 10: need somehow in this revalidation process to make sure what 351 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 10: they're submitting is correct and if for some reason you 352 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 10: have reason to believe, not that then you follow up 353 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 10: on that, because the layers of problems here is legendary. 354 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 10: But on the qsps, this is another point we might 355 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 10: need to deal with. In Statute twenty four of the 356 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 10: qsps who are responsible for the daily oversight of these 357 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 10: clinics live out of Staten doing their job. If they 358 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 10: live out of state, and why have you allowed that 359 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 10: to continue? 360 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 6: Make it makes sense, Madam Chair, I would say that 361 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 6: was a conversation and end of session negotiations last year, 362 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 6: and we would love to continue that conversation with Chure, 363 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 6: Schumacher and Suranor And to. 364 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 10: Me that that's like something that should be shut down immediately. 365 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 10: If they're at the QSP responsible for these clinics, how 366 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 10: can they be doing their job from out of state? 367 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 10: All right, so thank you for your time and testimony. 368 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: I will I just it drives me the procedures. 369 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: I know that they're baked in to the way the 370 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: legislature operates, but it just provides such a lack of 371 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: accountability and the way that they go and conduct these hearings. 372 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: She's right, get an answer. 373 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: To the question, how is it you can have individuals 374 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: out of state that are supposed to be overseeing these 375 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: programs to make sure they're not fraudulent. All right, more 376 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: of your comments coming up like this one here on 377 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Twin City's News talking next. 378 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 7: On Tim Walls couldn't read the report. 379 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 11: He was too busy writing you remember, that's what he's 380 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 11: going to do. 381 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: He's going to ride you. 382 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 12: Expect for the next eleven months for me to ride 383 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 12: you like you've never been ridden. 384 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: Twin City's News talk. 385 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: Running through the latest regarding fraud here in Minnesota. The 386 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: Program Integrity Director Tim O'Malley, the man handpicked by Governor 387 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: Tim Walls to look into the fraud question in Minnesota, 388 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: released his fifty six page report yesterday. Governor Tim Walls 389 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: wasn't bothered enough to read it, by his own admission. 390 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: By the way and the report, one of. 391 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: The biggest takeaways is there needs to be a cultural 392 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: shift within agencies, no doubt about that. At the same time, however, 393 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: you're not going to get much of a cultural shift 394 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: if you keep appointing the same individuals who have been 395 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: driving the fraudulent bus this whole time, or, in you 396 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: know Walls's case, riding the fraudulent bus. 397 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 12: Expect for the next eleven months for me to ride 398 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 12: you like you've never been ridden. 399 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: When did that? Yeah? Is that start to jet? 400 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 401 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: Shari Gandhi appointed as the permanent DHS Commissioner. So the 402 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: person who was in charge of the programs where the 403 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: runaway fraud was taking place on a temporary basis is 404 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: now the permanent individual. So I want to give you 405 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: more details, especially what's been taking place and what took 406 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: place yesterday during this Fraud Committee hearing on autism. More 407 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: audio to share, but let's get some of your thoughts 408 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: from the iHeartRadio app talk backs brought to you by 409 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: Lyndahl Realty. 410 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 13: And it doesn't take a genius to figure out when 411 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 13: this fraud started. So Tim Walls has been in there. 412 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 13: The Minnesota budget has almost doubled every two years. That's 413 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 13: probably a good indication that something's not right in China 414 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 13: or should I say state of Minnesota. 415 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 14: I'm not a politician, so I'm not sure of the protocol. 416 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: Who assigned that. 417 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 14: Lady to be in charge of everything, if she was 418 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 14: in cohoots from the beginning or part of the problem. 419 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 14: Most likely, is there something the Republicans can do to 420 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 14: start talking about that getting the word out other than 421 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 14: this radio show that that's happening, because it's just going 422 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 14: to keep going on and on and on, and I 423 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 14: can't afford delivery anymore if we're going to just get 424 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 14: nicol and dined death for every single year we live here. 425 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: That's what's taking place in the legislative session right now 426 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: and why there are multiple stories across the local news 427 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: outlets regarding these particular issues. The good news is when 428 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: it comes to fraud, the media knows that this is 429 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: a controversy that touches and concerns everybody, regardless of party. 430 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: So we get a fair amount of decent It's not great. 431 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: You still have to go to Center, the American Experiment 432 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: or Balphanews to get the great reporting, but you are 433 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: getting reporting, and you are hearing multiple sides of the issue. 434 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: And again, it's because the media understands that this is 435 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: something that is interested, interesting to everybody, and of interest 436 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: to everybody, not just those on the left. 437 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: Hey, John, it drives me nuts. 438 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 15: My wife works for a nursing home in Minnesota here 439 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 15: and the state just randomly goes and checks up on 440 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 15: their nursing home and climbs up their button tags them. 441 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: For different things. 442 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 15: How come all of these autism centers and child learning 443 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 15: centers and things were never looked at when the nursing 444 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 15: homes that are run legitimately are being harassed all the 445 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 15: time by the state. 446 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: Makes me crazy, and it's listen, it's right that it 447 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: makes you crazy. And it's because they don't care. There's 448 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: an argument to be made this was by design. These 449 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: are individuals that believe in policies like redistribution of wealth, 450 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: socialist policies, the policies of socialism, but they can't go 451 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: directly all in on that. Oh they're getting closer, mind you. 452 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: There are those individuals that wear those labels proudly, especially 453 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: inside of Minneapolis, within the city council leadership and others. 454 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: They do not hide from their comrades or anybody else, 455 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: their communists bonafides, because again they're shielded from any sort 456 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: of scrutiny, and they continue to. 457 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: Get re elected. 458 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: At the state level, and the legislature is a little 459 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: bit different, you do have those same individuals serving. They 460 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: just can't be as open as they are in places 461 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: like Minneapolis, so instead they tinker around the edges. They 462 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: find other ways to redistribute the wealth wherein this may 463 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: have been all part of it, and it wasn't an 464 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: issue until people made it an issue. And then suddenly 465 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: they act like they care. But you see how far 466 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: they care. Governor Tim Walls can't be about to read 467 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: the report before the press conference from his program integrity director. 468 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: The individual in charge of the programs when all the 469 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: fraud was taking place on a temporary basis, is now 470 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: the permanent commissioner. Tell me that you really don't care 471 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: about this issue without telling me that you really don't 472 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: care about this issue, and I give you everything that 473 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I just said. 474 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 16: Good morning, John. I think it's hilarious. This guy comes 475 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 16: in and says, hey, we found all this fraud and corruption, 476 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 16: so it feels like there's an entire culture of it. Well, 477 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 16: then Walls turns around and confirms it by saying, yeah, 478 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 16: I heard about this, but I have no interest in 479 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 16: reading about it. 480 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: He's too busy writing everybody else. Hey, good morning guys, John. 481 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 17: The culture change that needs to happen in Minnesota state 482 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 17: government is not don't attack people who blow the whislawn fraud. 483 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 17: It is your job is not to take taxpayer dollars 484 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 17: to help people in whatever way you can so that 485 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 17: they vote for you. If they have to follow the 486 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 17: rules to help people, they'll do that. But if they 487 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 17: have to break the rules to help people to get votes, 488 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 17: they'll do that too. 489 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: Let me go here case in point, talking about local 490 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: media that's actually going and doing a decent job covering 491 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the issue. Blue Ragoose better than most at Caro Levin 492 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: put out a video yesterday. Here is the audio sharing 493 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: some of the crazy details about the fraud in Minnesota's 494 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: autism centers, as was highlighted during this Fraud Committee hearing 495 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: in Saint Paul yesterday. 496 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 18: Some jaw dropping facts revealed today concerning fraud at Minnesota's 497 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 18: autism centers. 498 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: The Legislature's Fraud Prevention Committee. 499 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 18: Met focusing on EIDBI. 500 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: Benefits, better known as autism centers. 501 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 18: Prior to the Department of Human Services placing the program 502 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 18: on the list of high risk programs for fraud, they 503 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 18: were not legally allowed to perform an unannounced site visit 504 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 18: at the five hundred autism centers in the state. Why 505 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 18: because when the state legislature created the program, they didn't 506 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 18: require autism centers to be licensed, and of the fourteen 507 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 18: high risk programs in the state. Six of them do 508 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 18: not require licensing, making it easier for the fraudsters to steal. 509 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 18: Now that the state is requiring licenses, how many of 510 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 18: those five hundred autism centers have applied so far only six, 511 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 18: raising questions about how many of them offer legitimate services. 512 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 18: On that note, there was a lot of scrutiny in 513 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 18: the committee meeting about who exactly is providing medical services 514 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 18: at these autism centers. It was revealed that essentially anyone 515 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 18: over eighteen with some online training can be a Level. 516 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: Three autism provider. 517 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 18: These issues leading a GOP lawmaker to warn that there 518 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 18: could be a movement to end this program. 519 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 19: Unless this gets cleaned up and really cleaned up, you know, 520 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 19: and fast, there's going to be a push probably to 521 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 19: get rid of this program. 522 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: Again. 523 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: That was from Cara Levin some reporting by lou Ragouse 524 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: getting back to this Channel five piece on the third 525 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: party report that indicated ninety percent of the claims for 526 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: state funds to pay for autism services might have been 527 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: flagged as fraudulent, Representative Christian Robbins went on to say 528 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: it's a stunning number, and she's right, and in the 529 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: specifics they talk about some very basic stuff like some 530 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: companies that had no phone numbers, they had no websites, 531 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: So please tell me how those places were even allowed 532 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: to build a dime to the state. Department of Human Services. 533 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: Officials didn't deny the fraudulent claims, but said they haven't 534 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: verified the ninety percent figure. The DHS commissioner, who was 535 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: now temporary and is now permanent, said a flag claim 536 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily indicate fraud, and it doesn't even necessarily indicate 537 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: that the service wasn't corrected anyway, So our analytics needed 538 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: to continue to be refined. Okay, that's fine, So let's 539 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: get to what percentage of that ninety percent actually. 540 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: Does indicate fraud. Let's do that because that would be helpful. 541 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: Oh is that too hard? Am I asking for too much? 542 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 20: Good morning, John, This is your friend Anny from Plymouth. 543 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 20: I think that Sharine Gandhi was appointed to a permanent 544 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 20: position because she's going to be the fall person. I 545 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 20: don't think Tim Walls has faith in her anymore than 546 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 20: I have faith in Tim Wall's. I think he just 547 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 20: needs somebody to be the person who takes takes the fall, 548 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 20: because he's arrogant enough to think it won't be him, 549 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 20: have a good. 550 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 21: Day, Alice fraud. It really is a culture problem. We 551 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 21: need to restore the honor. We need to honor those 552 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 21: people who work hard, and we need to disgrace and 553 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 21: shame the lazy, the thiefs. 554 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: The Deputy DHS Commissioner, John Connolly says that they do 555 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: take the report seriously of the ninety percent of the 556 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: state funds flagged for being possibly possibly fraudulent, but they 557 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: still need to verify the numbers. Of course they do, 558 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: he says, DHS needs to check how consultants determine that figure. Certainly, 559 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the claims being flagged is a huge 560 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: concern for us, and we'll have to dig into this 561 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: with a vendor to further sort out the different analytics 562 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: that we're going to apply so that we can look 563 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: more closely at the claves. I can't find my word 564 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: solid fast enough word salid with no substance. We now 565 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: take you alive to those vendors that are a part 566 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: of that ninety percent that have been flagged as possibly 567 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: fraudulent when asked to go ahead and verify whether or 568 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: not they've been conducting fraud. 569 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: This is what they had to. 570 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: Say, which good I like what you did there? 571 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: I like that too, and good job. More appropriately, they 572 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: knew and they let it happen. 573 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: The report by optim of, subsidiary of United Healthcare, also 574 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: found the number of autism service providers skyrocketed from forty 575 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: one to three hundred and twenty eight over the five 576 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: year period in twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three. I'm 577 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: going to use the feeding our Future analogy, but I 578 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: won't go there yet. I'll just do it with the 579 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: skyrocketing autism centers. The first place you can start, are 580 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: there people suffering from autism that need help to the 581 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: numbers that would require three hundred and twenty eight autism 582 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: centers over forty one. 583 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean that's the first question. Is there a group? 584 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean there should be, right if there is going 585 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: to be an explosion. 586 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: In the number of autism service providers that. 587 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Would need to if it were legitimate, Okay, if this 588 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: were legitimate, then what you should see is a group 589 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: who are outspoken saying we have all of these people 590 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: that need access. 591 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: To autism services. 592 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: But we don't have the programs available. 593 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 2: To help them. And then you see. 594 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: An explosion of the pro Okay, so we need to 595 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: fill the needs. That's not what happened here. No, what 596 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: happened here, in my opinion, is what we already know. 597 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: You had forty one that may have been legitimate at first, 598 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: but then some of those go, hey, you know what, 599 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: there's really this is really really easy to just say 600 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: that we are offering up these services without actually having 601 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: to offer up these services, and then tell the state 602 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: that we did these services, and we can just collect 603 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: the checks and make a lot of money without even 604 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: actually having to do any work. And then suddenly everybody 605 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: collectively just says, okay, let's do it, and the fraud 606 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: explodes with three hundred and twenty eight autism centers that 607 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: are created over the course of a few years. Some 608 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: lawmakers express frustration that sections of the report were heavily redacted, 609 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: making it difficult to determine the extent of the fraud. 610 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Robinson went on to say, just to your point about transparency, 611 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: holding up the report open to several redacted pages. This 612 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: is the report, so everybody knows there's not a lot 613 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: of transparency going on here. DHS plans to produce a 614 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: response to the report, including recommendations for lawmakers to prevent 615 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: fraud in the future. This is me sitting here not 616 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: holding my breath for fear that I won't be alive 617 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: long enough to do the show tomorrow. In the meantime, 618 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: let's go back to a few of your thoughts from 619 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. 620 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 14: I just set a meeting with my dogs up because 621 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 14: they're actually more competent than the people running the state 622 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 14: of Minnesota. Their recommendation is as follows. 623 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 2: That's real simple. 624 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 14: All the people that are destroying the state of Minnesota 625 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 14: right now, like Misgani and all these people getting raises 626 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 14: to destroy it more, put on administrative leave immediately until 627 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 14: we get to the bottom of it. There's absolutely zero 628 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 14: reason these people should still be taking my tax dollars 629 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 14: and destroying the state. 630 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 11: This is in response to the guy that just called 631 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 11: in about the nursing homes or left the talk. Excuse 632 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 11: me they didn't check on the nurse the daycares, et cetera. 633 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 11: Because it was they were in on it. It's part 634 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 11: of the plan. It was the fraud scheme. They're in 635 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 11: kohots doing that thing with my finger. 636 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 7: Let's wake up. 637 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 2: And you want to talk about systemic problems. We've seen. 638 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: The explosion or that should say, the exposure of fraud 639 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: across the country in other states. As as I predicted 640 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: what was going to happen, Minnesota was providing the blue 641 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: But if it's happening here at the levels that it's happening, 642 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: then clearly other parts of the country with Democrat leadership, 643 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: with similar legislatures that are led by Democrats, have been 644 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: creating these programs with low barriers of entry, easily manipulated 645 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: to be fraudulent with very little oversight. And we've seen 646 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: this happen in the state's Colorado, which I've mentioned already 647 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: this morning, California, I want to share this piece of 648 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: audio with you. So James tallerco running for Congress in Texas. 649 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: The Democrat is labeling him as the next big thing. 650 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like they. 651 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: Did with Beto O'Rourke and like they did with Pete Boodhaji. 652 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: Listen to what he has to say to this. 653 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: Crowd as they cheer him along, and really listen to 654 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: the words, and then I'll lay out just how ridiculous 655 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: this commentary is from this congressional candidate, James Tallerrico the. 656 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 22: Only minority destroying America is the billionaires. Trans People are 657 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 22: one percent of the population, Muslims are one percent of 658 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 22: the population. Undocumented people are one percent of the population. 659 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: We are focused on the wrong one percent. They know 660 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 2: not what they're cheering for. 661 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: There's more to this, but this is what the left 662 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: would have their base of supporters believe. The population size 663 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: is irrelevant to all of these issues. It's not even 664 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: an argument. For example, an illegal alien raped a woman, Yeah, 665 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: but you know, it hardly happens. You know, an undocumented 666 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: people are only one percent of the population. So is 667 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: there really that big of a deal a trans person 668 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: murdered multiple people? But yeah, there's but there's hardly any 669 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: trans people compared to the total population. So what's the 670 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: big deal if a small percentage of a group of 671 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: individuals end up murdering relatively speaking to the number of 672 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: deaths that take place on an average daily basis across 673 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: the country, what's. 674 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 2: The big deal? 675 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: We're allowing our children's bodies to be altered and mutilated. Yeah, 676 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: but when you look at it, I mean, when you 677 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: look at how many children that are out there, really 678 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: it's only a very small percentage of the children. 679 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: So why is this a big deal. 680 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 22: Trans people aren't taking away our healthcare. Muslims aren't defunding 681 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 22: our schools. 682 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: Demo grants aren't. 683 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: Cutting taxes for themselves and their rich friends. 684 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 22: It's the billionaires and their puppet politicians. 685 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: They're all. It's all just made up arguments. 686 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 13: You know. 687 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: Is this Democrat lays out he's going to stand up 688 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: there and create all these false arguments that really aren't 689 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: being put forward by Republicans and then refute them. 690 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: But this is the darling on the left. 691 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: This is an individual that Democrats would go and say like, yeah, 692 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: he's the future right there, he's. 693 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: A real grown up. No, he's just another socialist with 694 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: communist tendencies. 695 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: So there was more that was taking place during the 696 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 1: legislative session. I had to go digging for this one. Unsurprisingly, 697 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: I had to get all Internet Indiana jones up on 698 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: this to find details of the revised and resurrected er. 699 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: In the Minnesota sen Judiciary Committee yesterday they advanced the 700 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: Minnesota Equal Rights Amendment the era. Yes, it's back, and 701 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: it's just as dangerous as it's always been. I had 702 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: to find a story because none of our local news outlets, 703 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, covered this so where did I find this? 704 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: I found this a Gender Justice. Gender Justice applauds the 705 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: RA passage by the Senate Judiciary Committee. Megan Peterson, executive 706 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: director at Gender Justice, issued the following statement. In a 707 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: year marked by violence, fear, and federal occupation that costs 708 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: lives and traumatize our communities, the Minnesota ERA is our 709 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: line in the sand. This is Gender Justice commenting on 710 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 1: this was I was targeting trans people and I missed it. 711 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: It is how we say in Minnesota. 712 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: Your dignity is not negotiable, your body is not a 713 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: political playground, and our state will never use its laws 714 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: or resources against its own people. 715 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 716 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: They go on to say, this is a chance for 717 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota to be clear about who we are and who 718 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: we refuse to become. We urge the Minnesota legislature to 719 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: move swiftly to put the ERA on the ballot and 720 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 1: let Minnesota and send a clear message this November about 721 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: who we are and the future that we are building together. 722 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: Let's get into what this ramment is really about. I 723 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: have a couple of clips to share with you. We'll 724 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: start with this one and then we'll take a brief break. 725 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: This is Michael Holstrom yesterday during this Senate Judiciary Committee 726 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: about this very issue and the fact that Title nine 727 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: is being gutted in the wake of this, in the 728 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: wake of what they call equality. 729 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 2: Listen to what Michael Holstrom had to say. 730 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 9: Oppression of female voices and opportunities is at an all 731 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 9: time high in Minnesota. Our daughters deserve privacy, they deserve 732 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 9: equal rights, they deserve equal opportunities, and they deserve our protection. 733 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 9: Poorly written, irres responsible legislation like this will achieve the opposite. 734 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 9: This will result in more girls being victimized on their 735 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 9: sports teams, like Class four A high school softball players 736 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 9: who lost their state title to a team with a 737 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 9: male pitcher who, besides pitching three shutout games in the tournament, 738 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 9: made the game categorically more dangerous for the girls on 739 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 9: that field. Title nine was a hard fought victory for 740 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 9: our girls. Somehow that is now under assault and it's 741 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 9: not my party leading that charge. We owe our daughters protection, 742 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 9: we owe them a yes vote on this amendment. 743 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: Thank you more on this equal rights amendment and what 744 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: it really is about. And then we'll get into spice 745 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: company based out of Wisconsin, but has multiple Minnesota Locations 746 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: has devoted an entire section of its website to attacking 747 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: Republicans as being racist. 748 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: In a story from Alpha News. 749 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: What's really comical about this is that this idiot that 750 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: runs Penzi, this bill Penzi's all the benefits of conservative capitalism, 751 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: but like none of the responsibility. I'll give you the 752 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: details coming up, and we'll get to your comments from 753 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app in our three here on Twinday's News 754 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.