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Speaker 1: They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to repeat seasons.

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Speaker 3: It's winning it again.

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Speaker 4: This year.

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Speaker 2: Is not trying to win a championship, They're trying to repeat.

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Speaker 1: It's October baseball for your world champion in LA.

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Speaker 5: Dodger the twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National League's

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Speaker 5: Western Division champions.

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Speaker 1: And you know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Saxon Kates and AM is back.

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Speaker 1: This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates

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Speaker 1: and former World champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 6: Reacting, taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball all

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Speaker 6: postseason long.

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Speaker 1: Now Here they are on AM five to seventy LA

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Speaker 3: Steve Sacks, Tim Kats.

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Speaker 1: Tim Kates and World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 3: Ah, here we go. It's Game day, Game three.

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Speaker 6: In the National League Champion JIP Series Dodgers and Brewers.

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Speaker 6: Dodgers a two series lead as this series comes to LA.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Southern California, Rise and shine. It's scam for

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Speaker 6: the next three hours with you here on A five

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Speaker 6: seventy Tim Kaits along with two time two time World

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Speaker 6: Series Champ, Rookie of the Year, and our favorite number

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Speaker 6: three who is throwing out the first pitch today at

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Speaker 6: Dodger Stadium, The one and only Steve sack Sacksy Good morning,

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Timmy. How are you? You are bright and

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Speaker 6: chippy this morning? A little simmy shimmy, Yeah, this morning.

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Speaker 6: You got your coffee, You're up early, you were ready

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Speaker 6: to go. Somebody's excited to throw.

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Speaker 7: Out the front Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 7: Sosia as he delivers it first. I'll think I'll let

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Speaker 7: him do do that. I'll show deference. He was here

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Speaker 7: before me. I'llbe it just maybe a year, but I

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Speaker 7: think I'll let Sosha you know, do it first.

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Speaker 6: And then I'm gonna I'm gonna chuck it in there.

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Speaker 6: During one of the breaks coming up later on in

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Speaker 6: the show, we're gonna go out to the hallway and

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Speaker 6: play a little soft catcher. We don't have gloves because

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Speaker 6: I'm an idiot and I can't find my baseball gloves.

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Speaker 6: But I was able to find a baseball of course.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And so we'll get you warmed up and we'll get

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Speaker 6: everybody primed and ready to go. For you throwing out

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Speaker 6: the first pitch again. First pitch is at three eight

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Speaker 6: today out of Dodgers Stadium, and Steve and Mike Soshi

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Speaker 6: will be thrown out the first pitch minutes before that.

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Speaker 3: So again, make sure you're out there early.

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Speaker 7: Fifty five fifty five, I've got I've got a hard time. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: there's really a hard hard time to fifty five. It

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Speaker 7: releases from the fingertips.

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Speaker 6: No, no sooner, no later to fifty five. And they're

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Speaker 6: giving us the jerseys to wear.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so I get to don the number three tonight,

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Speaker 7: looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: That is impressive to see you're wearing the jersey out there.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. We'll have number three on there, we'll say sacks. Okay, wait, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's what I wore here, okay, just making sure well

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Speaker 6: you did wear another number before number three right when

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Speaker 3: Up, did't you?

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's true. Were I wore fifty two? Fifty two? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I had twenty My first day of the Big Leagues

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Speaker 7: I said, what are you going to try to get?

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Speaker 7: He was Sandberg here or you know his that was

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Speaker 7: don't know that no name on the back, with no name,

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Speaker 7: no you could tell where the stitching used to be

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got there. It was like a It was

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Speaker 7: you're up, You're in, And I got there, and yeah,

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Speaker 7: it was like I didn't even know who was pitching.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know anything. I just got to the park

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Speaker 7: Were you up for good? Never went back again? No way,

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Speaker 6: So they didn't even have a uniform that has your number,

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Speaker 6: your name on the back, didn't have the right number.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 6: How long did it take them to finally figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you better get him a uniform says

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Speaker 6: I think on that trip I did get fifty two

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Speaker 6: I was like a I was like a pulling guard. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And that's one of those numbers they give the guys

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Speaker 7: Throughout my you know, a little cup of coffee. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: you know, and and uh in eighty one went to

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Speaker 6: That winner. You know, we won the World Series. So

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Speaker 7: Went to went to Venezuela, came back, they had traded

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Speaker 7: be the guy. So it was in spring training. Remember

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Speaker 7: Nobe Kouano Nobi was our was our in our locker

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Speaker 7: I asked, Nobi, Nobi, is that number available? He says, yeah,

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Speaker 6: And so that was it.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, mister law just don't mind.

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Speaker 6: I'm really sorry to make the team, but we're just.

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Speaker 3: Gonna grab that uniform number.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's how that happened.

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Speaker 7: And Rudy is a Sacramento guy, so you know, no,

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Speaker 7: I I felt kind of bad, but you know, not

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Speaker 3: Is that your number? Three?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I had in high school and and everything, so that

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Speaker 7: that's the number I wanted. Can't believe it happened.

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Speaker 3: Like that, Rudy law Leaves, you grabbed the uniform.

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Speaker 7: It was like it was like it was it was

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Speaker 7: it on my back and that was that number three

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Speaker 6: See I love these kind of stories because that's what

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Speaker 6: that's how it happened. You hear it all the time.

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Speaker 6: I did. How did you end up wearing that number?

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Speaker 6: You're a Hall of Famer, you were a great legend. Ah,

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Speaker 6: They're just a sign to me, or you know what.

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Speaker 6: This guy had it and uh, it got released one

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Speaker 7: And sometimes there's some significance to it about what something

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Speaker 7: happened in your life earlier. Some guys get, you know,

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Speaker 7: a number twelve because that adds up to three if

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Speaker 6: Is not available. So they do all kinds. That's how

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Speaker 6: people get their numbers. Did you have backup plans thinking

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Speaker 6: thought about it. One plus two is twelve, so all

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Speaker 6: you know equals three. Well, you know what I was.

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Speaker 7: I was thrilled just to be there, and oh, come on, hey, listen,

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Speaker 7: you got to realize that. All the guys on the

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Speaker 7: to be seen and not heard, And I was always

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Speaker 7: yes sir, no sir, That's what I said. And if

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Speaker 7: to be seen and not heard. Yeah, that was a veteran. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 7: that was a group that had been around. You joined

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Speaker 7: Oh they treated me, they they that was the butt

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Speaker 7: how did you take that? You know, sometimes it got

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Speaker 7: I enjoyed being on that team. It was such an

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Speaker 6: How can they give you a hard time when you're

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Speaker 6: having a Rookie of the Year season in eighty two.

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Speaker 6: Mostly when I came up in eighty one, Okay, they didn't.

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Speaker 7: I didn't you know, I hadn't done anything yet. They

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Speaker 6: Well, we got a full three hours to go here

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Speaker 6: in our final hour this morning. He was out at

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Speaker 6: early in the morning yesterday. Dodgers and Brewers both had

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Speaker 6: workouts at Dodger Stadium late in the afternoon, the media sessions.

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Speaker 6: We're both there for both teams. You're gonna hear from

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Speaker 6: the manager, Dave Roberts coming up at seven o'clock. You'll

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Speaker 6: hear from Blake Snell. Excuse me, You'll hear from the

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Speaker 6: Tyler Glass now, Tyler Glass now coming up in the

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Speaker 6: eight o'clock hour as he looks to continue with Blake

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Speaker 6: Snell and Yoshinobu Yamamoto have done in the first two

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Speaker 6: games of this series. But it's interesting yesterday I had

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Speaker 6: a one of a con and nobody does what he

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Speaker 6: is doing in his career as a two way player.

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Speaker 6: Nobody's hit as many home runs and drove in as

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Speaker 6: many runs and stolen bases as he had in the

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Speaker 6: season last year, that record breaking year, fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday at Dodger Stadium, he took batting practice on the field.

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Speaker 3: And for some of you like, oh, okay, that's great.

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Speaker 6: They take batting practice every day during spring training, the

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Speaker 6: regular season, the postseason. Yes, that's true. They do take

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Speaker 6: batting practice every day, but Shoeyotani doesn't take batting practice

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Speaker 6: on the field with the rest of the team. Shoeyotani

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Speaker 6: has got a routine, and he is one of these

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Speaker 6: it out in the field. It's very rare. He has

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Speaker 6: a routine, yes, and he never hardly deviates from that routine.

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Speaker 6: But yesterday was different. Steve, we saw shoe Heyotani outside

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Speaker 6: taking batting practice. He did five rounds of and it's

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's panic because there's so much support.

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Speaker 7: There's no question about that. And I guess they made

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Speaker 6: They're just laying it in there. Right, This is all

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Speaker 7: And you know they were I was watching some of

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Speaker 7: He wasn't he wasn't frustrated. He lose, Yeah, yeah, very loose.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and sho Hay is a big pool hitter, as

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Speaker 7: The luxury that Shoeyotani has over most hitters is that

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Speaker 6: I saw him.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you how strong that dude was. I saw

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Show.

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Speaker 9: Hey.

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Speaker 6: Otani had a home run this year during one of

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Speaker 7: The struggles are real. That the numbers aren't a lie.

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Speaker 6: He has not been very good in this postseason, outside

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Speaker 2: Sure, is it a matter of change your mindset of

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Speaker 9: Seas there was season two, post season.

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Speaker 5: Hey, this year, on the days you've pitched and then

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Speaker 1: Dodgers and what are the reasons? Oh my.

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Speaker 9: Conct this my seas into you essential this season, this schedule.

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Speaker 4: I said, yeah, I'm grateful that, you know, joining the

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Speaker 4: Dodgers and being able to play in the postseason. It's

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Speaker 4: been a very you know, grateful experience for me and

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Speaker 4: being able to play with all kinds of teammates. This

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Speaker 4: year is a little different than last year. But I'm

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Speaker 4: just really grateful that I'm in this situation and being

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Speaker 4: able to play in this playoff environment.

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Speaker 8: Given what we saw from Snell and Yamamoto in terms

446
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Speaker 8: of how deep in the game they went for Game four,

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Speaker 8: what are you prepared to do physically? How far do

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Speaker 8: you think you could push yourself given that it is

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Speaker 8: the postseason now?

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Speaker 4: Mosquito, Yeah, I'm very impressed with how snell On your

451
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Speaker 4: Shnova has been able to pitch deep into the into

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Speaker 4: the game, and of course, like ideally if there's a

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Speaker 4: situation like that, that would be great. But my number

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Speaker 4: one priority is making sure I'm putting up zeros no

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Speaker 4: matter what, and making sure where the where the team

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Speaker 4: that scores first. So for me, that's my number one focus.

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Speaker 3: All right, there's show Hey o Tani.

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Speaker 6: It's it's a repetitive question, Steven, and it's something that

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Speaker 6: keeps getting asked because the numbers don't lie. The day

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Speaker 6: after he hits. The numbers are down the day he pitches,

461
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Speaker 6: I should say, the day he pitches, the numbers are down. Offensively,

462
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Speaker 6: he's a two way player, but people want to look

463
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Speaker 6: at the numbers and nitpick. Okay, well, wow, you're you're

464
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Speaker 6: one for four of the day after you pitch. So

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Speaker 6: are you tired? Are you fatigue? Should you be doing this?

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Speaker 6: Is this a good idea?

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Speaker 3: Still?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm getting tired of the question. Okay, the

469
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Speaker 6: guy's human, after all, we know he's a unicorn, but

470
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Speaker 6: he is human, so he doesn't go four for four

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Speaker 6: the day after he pitches. Yeah, I mean let's get

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Speaker 6: the guy a little bit of a break.

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Speaker 7: Hey, if there, if there is a little bit of

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Speaker 7: a pullback to him, who cares Seriously, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 7: this guy's doing stuff if you look at it, Uh,

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Speaker 7: in totality, this guy's doing things that nobody even dreamed

477
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Speaker 7: about doing. This is a like you said, the unicorn.

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Speaker 7: So I would I would expect a little bit of

479
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Speaker 7: a pullback. I mean if he's doing both things right.

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Speaker 7: And remember pitchers used to pitch and hit all the time,

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Speaker 7: really to change the roles that actually they did, so,

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Speaker 7: I mean they weren't they sure surely weren't, you know,

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Speaker 7: hitting with any authority.

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Speaker 6: That's uh, most guys weren't. But but for Otani, I

485
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Speaker 6: would expect a little bit of a pullback. But I'll

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Speaker 6: make that trade. Oh absolutely, You'll take Scholi Otani pitching

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Speaker 6: once a week and dhing the rest of the week.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Anytime there is a big question about well, the pitches

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Speaker 6: he's seen, the four seamers and the sinkers, there's a

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Speaker 6: tick up. I mean, honestly, those listening there is breakdown

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Speaker 6: numbers for everything in baseball. Baseball is a numbers game.

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Speaker 6: So of course anything you can look at you can

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Speaker 6: dissect with the number. And now the percentage of four

495
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Speaker 6: seemers and sinkers that Otani is facing in the postseason

496
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Speaker 6: has increased from forty three point seven percent to forty

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Speaker 6: nine point three percent. The sinker usage is especially ticked

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Speaker 6: up to almost twenty seven percent. So he's seen more

499
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Speaker 6: sinkers now in the postseason, and there's a question can

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Speaker 6: he handle the sinker? Is he not seeing the sinker?

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Speaker 6: Why are they throwing the sinker? Did they see something

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Speaker 6: in his swing that now alludes that he can't hit

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Speaker 6: the sinker.

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Speaker 7: Well, he's a left handed hitter and he's a low

505
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Speaker 7: ball hitter, so can he hit the sinker. That's actually

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Speaker 7: a bad pitch for the pitchers to throw to him

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Speaker 7: if they make a mistake that's low in the zone,

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Speaker 7: because Otani can handle that low pitch really well, you know.

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Speaker 7: And you know he's a big dude. He's six five

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Speaker 7: sixty six, so the sinker to him is like a

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Speaker 7: thigh high to a waist high pitch to most and

512
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Speaker 7: pitchers getting grooves, you know, So throwing him down there

513
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Speaker 7: is not going to be a problem for Otani. He

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Speaker 7: he digs that area in which he can hit.

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Speaker 6: I think Otani and then this isn't going to be

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Speaker 6: a shocker. And I think he has a big game today. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think Game three is his bust. If so Tany

518
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Speaker 6: has one big game. Let's say he gets three hits

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Speaker 6: and hits a couple of home runs.

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Speaker 3: Well, look at his numbers off the chart. He did

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Speaker 3: it when he was pitching.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you'd hear this same stuff, you know, so

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Speaker 7: it's it's all you know, it's all banter, That's all

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Speaker 7: it is.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't mean much.

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Speaker 7: Look at the guy's bubblegum card and look at the

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Speaker 7: back of that, and then you got an idea where

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Speaker 7: you're looking what you're what you're dealing with.

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Speaker 6: Oh but he only twice in his career as he

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Speaker 6: had a six day stretch that's been like this in

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Speaker 6: the postseason with temperature around seventy degrees, Right, I mean

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Speaker 6: it's we are really nitpicking. Yeah, what has happened with

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Speaker 6: shoey Otani? Yes, this productions down, Okay, but the Dodgers

534
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Speaker 6: have won two straight and are two wins away from

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Speaker 6: going back to the World Series. Right, the odds are

536
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Speaker 6: he is gonna turn things around. The numbers tell you

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Speaker 6: that he's gonna bounce back the opposite way and start

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Speaker 6: producing for this Dodgers team. He is Steve Sacks. I

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Speaker 6: am Tim Kates. We're off and running here on this

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Speaker 6: Thursday morning. David Vatsay will join us. In the eight

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Speaker 6: o'clock hour. We're gonna get into ghost talk. We're gonna

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Speaker 6: get into Dave Roberts and what he had to say

543
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Speaker 6: to the media yesterday. We're gonna go round Major League

544
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Speaker 6: Baseball in the seven o'clock hour gives us a certain name,

545
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Speaker 6: a former big league slugger that has now been mentioned

546
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Speaker 6: as a managerial candidate for not one, but two teams

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Speaker 6: in baseball. And I'm trying to figure out why we'll

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Speaker 6: get into that next hour. Your phone calls as well.

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Speaker 6: Eight sixty six ninety seven, two five seventy. But up next,

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Speaker 6: nol gold Glove for Freddy. Are you freaking kidding me? WHOA,

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Speaker 6: We'll get into it. Saxon Kate's at am on Anti

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Speaker 6: seventy Light Sports. Saxon Kate's in the am on this

553
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Speaker 6: Thursday morning, as we lead you up to Game three

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Speaker 6: of the National League Championship Series Dodgers in the Milwaukee

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Speaker 6: Brewers first pitch from Dodgers Stadium is coming up at

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Speaker 6: three oh eight. Make sure you're in your seat by

557
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Speaker 6: two point fifty five as Steve Saxson Mike Social will

558
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Speaker 6: be throwing out the first pitch before Game three this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Tyler Glass now on the mound for the Dodgers in

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Speaker 6: this Game three start. The Brewers haveing announced who they're

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Speaker 6: going with. We expect Kintana, the left hander, the veteran,

562
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Speaker 6: to pitch a lot of the game, if not bulk

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Speaker 6: of the game for them.

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Speaker 3: But will he start?

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Speaker 6: Will he be the second guy out? Pat Murphy's keeping

566
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Speaker 6: it close to the vest and doing this throughout the series.

567
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Speaker 6: And he did this against the Dodgers a couple of

568
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Speaker 6: years ago, so we'll see. The Dodgers doesn't seem to

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Speaker 6: face him, and they did this the first two games.

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Speaker 6: Who's gonna start, Who's gonna come out of the bullpen?

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Speaker 6: How long is Freddy Parolta gonna be out there? I

572
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Speaker 6: think they want Kintana to get the bulk of these innings.

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Speaker 7: You know, whether he's gonna start or not, he's you know,

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Speaker 7: he's been around, he's thirty six, he's uh, he's got

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Speaker 7: a decent era he's a five hundred pitcher. Yeah, but

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Speaker 7: you know he's Uh. They're trying to neutralize Otani again.

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Speaker 7: That's why he's on the left side, and we want

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Speaker 7: him being out there most of the time. But I

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Speaker 7: don't think this thing's gonna work.

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Speaker 6: I really don't. Pat Murphy said yesterday. Who's available? He said,

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Speaker 6: everybody but Freddy Peralta. All hands on deck in game three. Uh,

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Speaker 6: And we do expect to see Jacob Mizroski at some

583
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Speaker 6: points in Game three today. That is certainly the plan.

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Speaker 6: But you know, if things changed, maybe they deviate and

585
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Speaker 6: they save him for Game four. We'll find out. But yeah,

586
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Speaker 6: expect to see Cantana out there, the left hander, former Cub,

587
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Speaker 6: former White Sox, now Brewer out there for a lot

588
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Speaker 6: or majority of the Indians, if possible for the Milwaukee Brewers. Yesterday,

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Speaker 6: at the end of the show, Steve we mentioned that

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Speaker 6: the Rawlings Gold Glove finalists were announced in Major League

591
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Speaker 6: Baseball and the awards will be given out in November,

592
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Speaker 6: but here during the postseason, they announced the top three

593
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Speaker 6: finalists in the American League and National League. Get every

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Speaker 6: position from catcher to third base to outfield, even a

595
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Speaker 6: utility of player Gold Glove they had out now and

596
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Speaker 6: the Dodgers had two players make the finalist list at

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Speaker 6: their positions. One was Miguel Rojas, who made it as

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Speaker 6: a utility infielder. And there's no doubt he's a really

599
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Speaker 6: good defensive player and has been very helpful in Mookie

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Speaker 6: Betts and MOOKI will talk about that about how Miguel

601
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Speaker 6: Rojas has helped him in the transition the last year,

602
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Speaker 6: help him with footwork, you know, the game strategy, just

603
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Speaker 6: how to be an everyday shortstop. Well, he's played multiple positions, third, short,

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Speaker 6: second base. Miguel Rojas deserves a nod to be a

605
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Speaker 6: finalist for the Utility Gold Glove award. Mookie Betts, who's

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Speaker 6: won six goal gloves as a right fielder, is a

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Speaker 6: finalist in the National League for the Gold Glove. Congratulations

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Speaker 6: to Mookie Bets.

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Speaker 3: That is great.

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Speaker 6: I questioned a little bit the numbers all will tell

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Speaker 6: you he doesn't have a lot of airs and he

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Speaker 6: saves runs is a stat they throw out there. I

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Speaker 6: don't know how exactly they do. All players are different,

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Speaker 6: but go ahead, Yeah, twenty five percent of the vote

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00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 6: is stats and then like another seventy five percent is

616
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Speaker 6: managers and coaches around baseball vote on this and then

617
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Speaker 6: they put it all together and they give the three

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Speaker 6: finalists and they'll announce it in November. Well, the numbers

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Speaker 6: for Mookie Betts, the fielding run value, shows that he's

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Speaker 6: one of the top defensive shortstops in the Nation League. Okay,

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Speaker 6: the numbers say what they are. Yeah, fine, Well, what

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Speaker 6: the numbers don't say is that, yes, he's making plays

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Speaker 6: and he's getting out to the shortstop, but there are

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Speaker 6: a lot of times that Freddy Freeman's over there making picks.

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00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 6: There's a lot of times over there, mister Freddy Freeman

626
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Speaker 6: is stretching and saving the behinds of Mookie Bets and

627
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Speaker 6: other infielders on the Dodgers. Don't want to just point

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Speaker 6: out Mookie, but a lot of those infielders, Freddie Freeman

629
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Speaker 6: is his lipstick on what is an okay, defensive Dodger infield,

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Speaker 6: but he makes him look really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, Steve Sure.

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Speaker 6: I mean if you look at you know, people on

633
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Speaker 6: social media, they look one way, and you meet him

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Speaker 6: in person. Okay, all right, you know it's sort of

635
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 6: like that. Okay, you're gonna be nominated for a war

636
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Speaker 6: But why Well, because Freddy Freeman is the real reason why. Yes,

637
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Speaker 6: he's why it makes you look good out.

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00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 7: He makes a huge difference. All the infielders will tell

639
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 7: you that I used to.

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Speaker 6: Love it when I had Don Maddingly at first base

641
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Speaker 6: or Garve when I first came up these guys, As

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Speaker 6: long as you keep the ball low, I mean, you

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Speaker 6: got a great chance of that being, you know, snapped

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Speaker 6: up by that first baseman. And and it gets the

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Speaker 6: infield confidence knowing that you don't have to be perfect,

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Speaker 6: you know on the throw, if it you know you're

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Speaker 6: going a distance away, or it's you know, it's really

648
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 6: off balance throw, whatever it may be, you don't have

649
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Speaker 6: to be perfect.

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Speaker 7: You got a guy over their first base is gonna

651
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 7: gobble it up. And Freddie Freeman's a master at it.

652
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 7: I mean he makes great plays. The play that Tommy

653
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 7: Edmund made to close out the game, yes, I mean

654
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 7: that was that was not an easy pick because it

655
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 7: wasn't a real short short hop.

656
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 6: The shorter the hop or the first baseman the better

657
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 6: because you can just snap it up quick. But the

658
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 6: longer the hop that in between is a real hard one.

659
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 6: That's what mooky, that's what Freddy had on that ball

660
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 6: from Tommy ed But hey, it was no problem. He

661
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 6: caught it. Game over. And that guy at first base

662
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 6: I think is underrated. I think the arm of a

663
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 6: first baseman is underrated. For double plays that have to

664
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 6: be made going from three to six and back to three.

665
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 6: Those those plays are don't get talked about a lot,

666
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 6: but they make the difference in the National League at

667
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 6: first base. The three finalists for the Gold Glove this year,

668
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 6: and no knock on these guys, they're really good. Bryce

669
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 6: Harper the Phillies, Matt Olsen of the Braves, who a

670
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 6: lot of people argue is probably the best defensive first

671
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 6: baseman in baseball. Yep. The third finalist in the National

672
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 6: League for first base in the Goal Glove is Spencer

673
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 6: Steer of the Cincinnati Reds. Okay, great, good first baseman.

674
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: How's Freddie Freeman? Yeah, not one of the top three

675
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 6: if he doesn't win the award, because Matt Olson's gonna

676
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: win it because the numbers that everybody thinks he's the greatest

677
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 6: first baseman in the history of the game. Right now, Okay,

678
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 6: great Bryce Harper, everybody loves them. He's made the transition

679
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 6: from outfield to first base, and he's really good as well.

680
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 6: But Freddie Freeman not being at least a finalist, yeah,

681
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 6: absolute shame. And he's got one goal glove to his name.

682
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 6: He's got two championships, one in Atlanta and won't the Dodgers.

683
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 6: He's got one goal glove in twenty eighteen as a

684
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 6: member of the Atlanta Braves. I do about forty to

685
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 6: fifty posts game Dodger talks and during the season off

686
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 6: night Dodger talks. I cannot tell you how many times, Steve,

687
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 6: we're talking about a play here, a play there.

688
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: And it may not be a game saving play.

689
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 6: It may be the final out the fourth inning of

690
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: a game in August against the White Sox, but it's

691
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: still Freddie Freeman over there, stretched out like Jonathan Quick,

692
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 6: a goaltender for the Kings, swiping, making a back pick

693
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 6: and saving a throw for Max Muncy.

694
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: Or up there, leaping at six.

695
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 6: Six and grabbing a high throw from Key k Hernandez

696
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 6: coming down and swiping a tag on the base runner.

697
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: These things should be noted. These things should be recognized.

698
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 6: If I can see it with my eyes, if Dodger

699
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 6: fans can see it on a daily basis what he

700
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 6: means to this Dodgers team, and would first base throw

701
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 6: it in the vicinity of first base and Freddie Freeman's

702
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: gonna make the play one hopit, throw it three feet

703
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 6: high in the air. Freddie will freaking go get it.

704
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 6: And the fact that he's not going to be a

705
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: finalist again for a Gold Glove is a shame. You know.

706
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 7: I rarely see you get this animated about about this.

707
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 7: I know you're you're passionate about this, and.

708
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 6: I think you're right. And folks, I can tell you

709
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 6: that Tim is doing this completely off the cuff. He's

710
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: not even looking at his computer. He's just reeling it off.

711
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 6: And he's right. I'm tired of of Freddie not getting

712
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 6: recognized for being a great defensive from face and he should.

713
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, you got okay, So, so you

714
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 7: got Bryce Harper, who's you know, legitimate good first baseman

715
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 7: transition from the outfield, does a great job, works hard,

716
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 7: Bryce Harper, works hard. He deserves a recognition.

717
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 6: Got it.

718
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 7: Okay, you got Matt Olsen, who's phenomenal and it might

719
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 7: be one of the best you know in the game.

720
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: Right now that you should be a finalist every year.

721
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 6: Then you got steer. You're gonna put a cow in

722
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 6: front of Freddie Freeman, right, I really a cow a steer. Okay,

723
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 6: we're having fun with that. But but but no, Freddie

724
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 6: is a guy. I mean you see him all the time. Listen.

725
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 7: You get well over three million people that come. It

726
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 7: was a tenant this year for Dodger four million. Okay,

727
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 7: so you get four million people that see it all

728
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 7: the time. What are the pundits looking at? I mean,

729
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 7: you can't see the amount of games that this. He's

730
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: saved games, not just balls in the dirt. He saved

731
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 7: games to him. That's how valuable that is at first base.

732
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 7: And you see teams working on this all the time.

733
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 7: During batting practice.

734
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 6: They got the guy hitting the you know, the little

735
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 6: fungo up close for the guy and short hopping him.

736
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: They have guys sowing from around the pitching mound area

737
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: just short hopping it really hard over there. That's an

738
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 6: important feature of the whole infield, you know, coming together,

739
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 6: it's like the breadth of fresh air. Oh god, he

740
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 6: picked it. Okay, we can get out of here now.

741
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 7: But you know, you almost take it for granted. But

742
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 7: not Freddie. He's a master at it.

743
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 6: When Freddy came over from the Atlanta Braves in twenty

744
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 6: twenty one, he brought with him, at least in my

745
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 6: eyes because I hadn't seen it before, four hours before

746
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 6: every game along the third base line in front of

747
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 6: the Dodgers dugout, he and Dino Ebel, and before it

748
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 6: was Ron Washington when he was in Atlanta, he and

749
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 6: Dino Ebol. He'd get on their knees and he would,

750
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 6: as you said, just hit little one hoppers and he

751
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 6: would work on backhands, He work on foehand, he would

752
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 6: work on short hops, long hops, he worked on everything.

753
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 6: And it's drills that they do not every homestand and

754
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 6: they do it every day four hours before first pitch,

755
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 6: and it caught on Now months he does it, and

756
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 6: Rojas does it. Every infielder does it. And you'll see

757
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 6: one or two at a time with assistant coaches down

758
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 6: there working on the fundamentals backhand, forehand, just working on

759
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 6: picking the ball, fielding the ball, seeing the ball. And

760
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 6: he brought that over to this Dodgers team. Then you

761
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 6: see him transition to a game. And I don't even

762
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 6: have the numbers in front of me. Let alone, my

763
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 6: computer just died. I don't have the numbers in front

764
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 6: of me, but my eyeball test tells me this. My

765
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 6: eyes show me that on a daily basis, Freddie Freeman's

766
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: making plays. Now you can have your defensive saves and

767
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 6: whatever stats you want to call these in different achromism,

768
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 6: to call them different things. Save it, save all that stuff,

769
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 6: because my eyes tell me he saves guys on a

770
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 6: daily basis by picking the.

771
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 7: Ball and the drs and all that. That's a subjective

772
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 7: call as well, right, because because all guys are different,

773
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 7: all ranges are different, each ball that's bad at is different.

774
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 7: So all the calls, as you say, that's a defensive

775
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 7: run saved, it's subjective based on the whole situation.

776
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 6: It's not. But you know what's not subjective? Did he

777
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: pick it or did he not pick it? Right? That

778
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 6: is not subjective. That is a yes or a no.

779
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: See, I'm curious in how they grade this. Maybe you know,

780
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: maybe you don't know.

781
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 6: If a ball is hit to Mookie Bets and he

782
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 6: feels it clean, I'm just using Mooki as an example.

783
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: It could be Kei, Ky Hernandez.

784
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 6: Balls hit to shortstop cleanly fielded gets it, but throws

785
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 6: a one hop and Freddie Freeman picks it boom backhand picks.

786
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: It at first beats the by two steps.

787
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 6: Is that a defensive run saved?

788
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: Is that? Is?

789
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: That is?

790
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 6: I mean, if he doesn't make the play, that to

791
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 6: air on the shortstop, but Freddie saved him, so there's

792
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 6: no air on the shortstop. Correct, that's air saved. I mean,

793
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: is there a stat for airs saved? You know, question

794
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 6: should be It's a good question. I think it's all

795
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 6: involved in the defensive run saved thing, but there should

796
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 6: be a stat like that because Freddie does it with regularity,

797
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 6: and you know what else he does. It's more than that.

798
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 6: It's a lot deeper than that. It's you see him

799
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 6: picking the balls and whatnot. We're out of the Indian

800
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 6: and all that, and you see him working four hours

801
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 6: before the game. That's what makes it. That's what leadership

802
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 6: is to him. Freddie doesn't have to say anything. He

803
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 6: doesn't have to say a word, but guys look at

804
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 6: him and they say, I want to be like that guy.

805
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 6: That's what I want to be like. I'm gonna follow

806
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 6: what he does because I love the way he goes

807
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 6: about it. He doesn't have to be a locker room

808
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 6: lawyer and give me lip service in the locker room

809
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 6: and jump around and say yo yo whatever.

810
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 7: That's not a leader. What he does for hours before

811
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 7: the game, that's a leader without saying a word.

812
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: There was a ground ball hit to Max Munsey in Milwaukee,

813
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 6: and I'm pretty sure it was the Blake Snell game,

814
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 6: and Monsey fielded it and threw a one hop over

815
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 6: to Freddie Freeman, and Freddie picked it. Great play. And

816
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: I sat out loud at the time, like there he

817
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 6: goes again, saving another throw. And Max's reaction was looking

818
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 6: at Freddy and like thank you, thank you, You saved

819
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 6: me my bad, you know. And that's just an example.

820
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 6: A whole hum out in the middle of a game.

821
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 6: Didn't save the game, didn't save a run. There was

822
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 6: nobody on at the time. It was a ground ball

823
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 6: out and he saved the throw. I don't is that

824
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 6: written down somewhere? Is a computer spitting that out somewhere

825
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 6: that he just saved the behind the third baseman, which

826
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 6: could have opened the door for a while. Throw down

827
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 6: the right field line runner gets the second base, maybe

828
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 6: a ground ball to the right side, the runner scores

829
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: and next thing you know, the Brewers are up one

830
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: nothing where they're back in the game against Blake Snell.

831
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: Those kind of things. Do those get noticed? Does a

832
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: computer spit that out?

833
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 6: Tim?

834
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: Tim?

835
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 7: I think, I think what you're dealing with here, you're

836
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 7: absolutely right, And I think it's along the same lines

837
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 7: as when you talk about war. You know, wins above replacement. Uh,

838
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 7: that's where if you have the average player against this

839
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 7: guy over here, If this guy over here is in

840
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 7: the game against the average player, how much better is

841
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 7: the team?

842
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 6: That's what really what war is? Okay?

843
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 7: So so in that war, does war also show that?

844
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 7: Does it show? Does it does compute? Is it part

845
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 7: of the is it part of the equation to not

846
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 7: only have that where he picks the ball, but a

847
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 7: productive run, a productive out? Does that count in war?

848
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 7: Does a sacrifice count at war? Does a move the

849
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 7: runner over and and sacrifice you're at back to get

850
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 7: a two Hoppert second base of mover?

851
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 6: Does that count? I mean, these guys really aren't getting

852
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 6: paid for things like that. They're getting paid for jack

853
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 6: and the ball and for driving it runs. But all

854
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 6: those little intricate details of the game that win games.

855
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 6: When they run off the field and everybody's at the

856
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 6: entrance of the dugout, give them high fives and hit

857
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 6: them on the behind. They understand what baseball is, they

858
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 6: understand the way the games should be played, but they

859
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 6: don't necessarily get paid for it, which is wrong, and

860
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 6: I think they should. They should implement that criteria as

861
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 6: one way you can get paid. As you know, also

862
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: moving runners over productive outs, sacrifices, things like this, picking

863
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 6: balls at first base, yep, that should be part of

864
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: the criteria. I don't know who Freddy Freeman's agent is

865
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 6: off the top of my head, but if you want

866
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 6: me in your arbitration CAG next time when you go

867
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 6: back and try to get a new contract, just call

868
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 6: me up. I'll do a pro bono. Well maybe for

869
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 6: some tickets for Team Rebilion. You can speak on behalf

870
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 6: of everybody else that sees it. I mean, I'll go

871
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 6: in there and I'll just tell you how many times

872
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 6: I've seen Freddie Freeman like a witch over at first

873
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 6: base with that glove, make pick after pick after pick,

874
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 6: jump up and grab a ball, come down, slap a

875
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 6: tag on the runner just before he touches first base

876
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 6: I'll tell you. I'll be I'll be a first hand

877
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 6: witness for you at his arbitration case.

878
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I mean, I

879
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 7: think that's part of the game. It's really missing a

880
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 7: lot those intricate, detailed parts of the game, you know,

881
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 7: stealing a base win, the game's on the line, when

882
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 7: everybody knows you're gonna run, you do it anyway, things

883
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 7: like that. I mean, people want to see that. It's exciting.

884
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: He is Steve Sacks.

885
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 6: I am Tim Kates, and I am fired up that

886
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 6: Freddie Freeman is not a finalist for a gold Global

887
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 6: or eight six, six, nine eighty seven, two five seventy

888
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 6: coming up here from Dave Roberts. Next hour managerial openings

889
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 6: around baseball, and there's one guy getting a lot of

890
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 6: love and a lot of attention trying to figure out

891
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 6: why David Vast joins us. In the last hour, we'll

892
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 6: hear from Tyler Glass now in the last hour, so

893
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 6: much to get to your phone calls coming up. But

894
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 6: also if the Dodgers go back to Milwaukee, a certain

895
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 6: Dodger won't be staying at the team hotel because a

896
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 6: ghosts oh, Sax and Kates at the AM. Nothing spooky

897
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 6: here eight six, six, nine eighty seven, two five seventy

898
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 6: five seventy I Sports, Sax and Kate to the Am.

899
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: Thanks for meeting with us on this Thursday morning. As

900
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 6: the sun rises in southern California, that means we're getting

901
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: closer to Game three of the NLCS, the Dodgers and

902
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 6: the Milwaukee Brewers. Dodgers up two games to nothing in

903
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 6: this Best a seventh series. Coming up at eight o'clock hour,

904
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 6: David vs. Say will join us and we'll get into

905
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 6: some managerial openings around baseball and one name that continues

906
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 6: to get a lot of attention for these openings, and

907
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 6: I'm trying to figure out why this person is getting

908
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 6: so much love. We'll kick it back and forth with

909
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 6: Steve Sacks on that Dave Roberts. We'll hear from the

910
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 6: Dodger manager coming up next hour as well. If this series,

911
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 6: if if Steve Sacks, this series goes back to Milwaukee,

912
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 6: that means the Dodgers have well done something wrong and

913
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 6: have lost a couple of games here at Dodgers Stadium.

914
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: We wouldn't want to see that. But if this series

915
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 6: goes back to Milwaukee for game six and seven next week.

916
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 6: That means the Dodgers will have to stay at the

917
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 6: Fister Hotel yet again. We talked about this earlier in

918
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 6: the week. Is that hotel haunted? Is it safe to

919
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 6: stay there? Had you any experiences at that hotel? And

920
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 6: you said no, that he had no run ins with

921
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 6: the ghosts, right, no paranormal activities or anything like that.

922
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: There No.

923
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 6: Okay. Well, in the past Dodger players Adrian Beltray comes

924
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 6: to mind, had talked about things that had happened there

925
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 6: or he had heard or had seen that were weird

926
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 6: in his room. Mookie Betts stays at an Airbnb in

927
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 6: Milwaukee because doesn't want to stay in the hotel because

928
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 6: it's believed to be haunted. To Askar Hernandez when he

929
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: was talking to the media a couple of days ago

930
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 6: in Milwaukee, let him be known that he will not

931
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 6: be staying at the hotel when they go back. Oh,

932
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 6: and it's not him, it's his wife. Oh, she has

933
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 6: heard about the Fister Hotel and the ghosts and the

934
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 6: funny things that happen or don't happen at the hotel.

935
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 6: Did she have an experience?

936
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: She hasn't had an experience.

937
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 6: She doesn't want to have an experience, I hear you,

938
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: So she doesn't want to stay at the hotel, So

939
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 6: they will not be staying as a couple at the

940
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 6: Fister Hotel when the team goes back to Milwaukee. Kay,

941
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 6: and it brings up the question again about haunted hotels.

942
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 6: Uh huh, And I started to think, why is it

943
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 6: just Milwaukee. Yeah, you guys travel around to every almost

944
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 6: major city in the United States. Sure are there other

945
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 6: hotels that are maybe older teams stay at that are haunted.

946
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 7: Well, the teams don't generally stay at old hotels as

947
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 7: you stay at the really new, hip hotels. But in

948
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 7: you know, as as Dave Assay said, in Milwaukee, it's

949
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 7: really not you know, that kind of place where you're

950
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 7: going to have a lot of four seasons on every corner.

951
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 7: So the Fister is the viable choice.

952
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: Okay.

953
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 7: I've never had any experiences, although some teammates I'll keep

954
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 7: their names quiet, have said that they've seen a couple

955
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 7: of things and it was it was a bit of

956
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 7: a scary thing, you know. To me, I don't know

957
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 7: that they'd be scary though, you know, there's I never

958
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 7: I've never heard and I know you're perusing. But I've

959
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 7: never heard of any instances where somebody's like thrown out

960
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 7: of a window, or you know, you know, they took

961
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 7: a bite of food and there was a razor blade

962
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 7: in it or whatever, some weird things. You know that

963
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 7: a ghost my duty you But I don't know of

964
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 7: anything like that. But you know, so I wouldn't be

965
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 7: I might, I might welcome the ghost to, you know,

966
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 7: sit down and have a brandy or something.

967
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: Former Dodge at their basement.

968
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 6: Adrian Beltray told the La Times that years ago, going

969
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 6: back to the early two thousands, when he was a

970
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 6: member of the Dodgers, reportedly a ghostly presence was turning

971
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 6: the lights on and tickling his toes.

972
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: Oh at the Fister Hotel Okay.

973
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 6: Michael Young, former infielder in the Big least one time

974
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 6: Dodger at the end of his career, uh once said

975
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 6: he heard loud stomping noises in his room while he

976
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 6: was trying to yell to sleep. So he yelled out, hey,

977
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 6: make yourself at home, hang out, have a seat, but

978
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 6: don't wake me up.

979
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: Okay. After that, I didn't hear a thing for the

980
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: rest of the night.

981
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 6: Wow. Dodger wives told thea Oscar's wife about the ghost

982
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 6: in the hotel and reports of ghosts, and its spooked

983
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 6: her out so much that they will not be staying

984
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 6: there at the Fister Hotel. Dave Roberts was asked about this, okay,

985
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: and Dave Roberts says he stopped believing in ghosts when

986
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 6: he was ten.

987
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 7: Okay, so he is, is there is there one particular

988
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 7: ghost that like roams the hallways or great question something

989
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 7: like that.

990
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 6: Is it somebody from the you know, that just can't

991
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 6: let go or whatever.

992
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 3: The more and more you dig into it. The mister

993
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: Fister who started.

994
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 6: Misters who started the hotel, it's believed that his ghost

995
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: is oh okay, now, I don't know if he's like,

996
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 6: you know, trying to get people to check out or

997
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 6: check in. And we obviously had a foot fetish. We

998
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: know that tick on the feet, their feet tickled. That

999
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 6: was a little weird. Yeah. Eric Gannie, former Dodger closer

1000
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 6: uh said yeah, it's an old, weird, scary hotel that

1001
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 6: he didn't sleep well when they were in Milwaukee.

1002
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 7: I remember going in there. It is it is kind

1003
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 7: of uh. I don't want to say it's dank, but

1004
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 7: it's kind of.

1005
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: Like it's a little musty.

1006
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 7: I guess you'd say it's not it's not what you'd

1007
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 7: normally think a team would stay where they'd stay, but

1008
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 7: you know, it's like it's like one of the only

1009
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 7: options I think.

1010
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 6: I mean, when you stay, when you're in your room

1011
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: where you're thinking like, okay, this is like the Shining

1012
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 6: the movie, like, oh, that would be not good.

1013
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.

1014
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 6: I don't want some guy, you know, sticking his head

1015
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 6: through my door and here's Johnny. I don't want to

1016
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 6: see that.

1017
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: No, So yeah, the ghost story, I don't want to

1018
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: hear it.

1019
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 6: N used to live rom Rat. You don't want to

1020
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 6: hear that, right, Nope?

1021
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I I don't know, there's got to be

1022
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 7: something on it that says it's it's a guy, it's

1023
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 7: mister fister, it's somebody else that died at the hotel.

1024
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 6: Maybe, right, I mean, I don't know. There's all these

1025
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: paranormal activity shows that are out there that try to

1026
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 6: talk to ghost and try to figure out why they're there.

1027
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: Why are you haunting this?

1028
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: Oh?

1029
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, what did we do to you?

1030
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: What can we get a show to do? Maybe there

1031
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: has been one of these shows that have done. I

1032
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: don't know.

1033
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 6: Then they do the recording and they say, and then

1034
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 6: they put on italics on the TV, my name is Brett,

1035
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 6: and I'm hearing the voice come out. And I said,

1036
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 6: that did sound anything like my name is Brett?

1037
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 8: No?

1038
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 6: I didn't at all. I didn't hear that. No, I'm crazy.

1039
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 6: I'm sure they've done probably some kind of experiments and stuff.

1040
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 6: And you know, they.

1041
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 7: Should do one of those, one of those recordings where

1042
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 7: they get all the sophisticated equipment of the day and

1043
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 7: go do it at the Fister.

1044
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 6: Right there you go. Twenty twenty five. Can't we actually

1045
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 6: talk to ghosts now? If there really aren't ghosts? I

1046
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 6: don't know.

1047
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: He and Steve Sachs. Ii'm Tim Kathe.

1048
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 6: Let's just hope this series doesn't go back to Milwaukee

1049
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 6: so everybody can sleep better. Yeah, back in Milwaukee for

1050
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 6: a Game six or Game seven. Let's take care of

1051
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 6: business here in LA and not have to go back

1052
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 6: to the Midwest. Eight sixty six, nine eighty seven, two

1053
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 6: five seventy coming up well here from Dave Roberts, we'll

1054
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 6: get into the manager openings around baseball. David Veassi joins

1055
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 6: us at the eight o'clock hour. If you're on hold,

1056
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 6: we get to you next eight sixty six, nine eighty seven,

1057
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 6: two five seventy. We'll hear from tyler Glass now is

1058
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 6: as well. One hour down, two to go. We're live

1059
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 6: in local all day. By the way, coming up at

1060
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 6: nine am this morning, Rogan and Rodney Petro some money

1061
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 6: coming up at noon. Morongo Casino, Dodgers on deck at

1062
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 6: two o'clock, first pitch three. Oh wait, right here on

1063
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Speaker 6: ANFI seventy Ela Sports