WEBVTT - 12-10-25 Bill Cunningham Show

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<v Speaker 1>Its need.

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<v Speaker 2>By Billy cunning Him the Great America. Welcome this glory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Wednesday afternoon in the Tri State. Nasty weather coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Better stay tuned see what's going to happen on that front.

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<v Speaker 2>My hand from snow later on tonight and or tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>But until then, of course, Uh, I'm watching all the

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<v Speaker 2>analysis this morning on Fox Sports, and I'm told that

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<v Speaker 2>if the Steelers of the four games left, if they

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<v Speaker 2>go one, one and two, if they win one game

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<v Speaker 2>and then lose one game, then have two ties. If

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<v Speaker 2>that happens and the Bengals, Bengals sweep the next four games,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals are in the playoffs. That's the only hope

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<v Speaker 2>we have is have the Bengals in the playoffs if

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers tie two of the next four games. Joining

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<v Speaker 2>you and on Allen this and so many other topics

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<v Speaker 2>is Liz Bonus, the medical health reporter of WKRC Channel twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>We twelve stands for news. Liz Bonus, Welcome again to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bill Cunningham Show. How do you like my analysis

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<v Speaker 2>and the bengals chances in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I believe in miracles to.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Yes, I do believe in miracles. If that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a miracle, but they have less than

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<v Speaker 2>a one percent chance. It's zero point zero two, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's possible. But what's the other night I'm watching you?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I watch you as much as I can,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're doing this topic very close to Tony Bender's prostate,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is that there's something going on in prostate

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<v Speaker 2>health with AI. And this is for men, not women

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<v Speaker 2>or women who identify as men. I guess they have

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<v Speaker 2>prostates and as a consequence that the treatment for prostate

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<v Speaker 2>enlargement and prostate cancer is changing fundamentally. Explain that to

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<v Speaker 2>the American people. Everyone that's got a prostate, you better listen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there are some thought that fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>us have prostates. We should be talking more about them.

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<v Speaker 3>But you guys are really shy about talking about this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that impacts everything from sexual function to a whole

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<v Speaker 3>lot more. So we're not going to be shy. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk to you a little bit about what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on. Two different things you mentioned there. One is

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<v Speaker 3>benign prostate hyperplasia, which is it gets too.

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<v Speaker 4>Big and it makes you peel all night.

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<v Speaker 3>The other is prostate cancer and the biggest breakthrough that

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen is that artificial intelligence now can customize your

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<v Speaker 3>care especially with pretty much many types of imaging, but

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<v Speaker 3>in prostate cancer. It's now being used in the Tristate.

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<v Speaker 3>Our friends at the Urology Group some of the first

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<v Speaker 3>in the region to take a care scan that you

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<v Speaker 3>do before you have a treatment plan in radiation, and

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<v Speaker 3>normally what happens is that that takes a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks and then your body will sort of come in

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<v Speaker 3>and it'll adjust, meaning you know, your bladder's a little

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<v Speaker 3>full or your bowels a little full, and that can

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<v Speaker 3>stir off some of those results like you're getting zapped

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<v Speaker 3>and they want to zap you precisely. Well, Now with AI,

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<v Speaker 3>what they'll do is they have you lay down on

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<v Speaker 3>the radiation machine and the imaging itself. AI will adapt

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<v Speaker 3>essentially your cat scan to what your bladder and bowel

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<v Speaker 3>looks like that day, which means when they zap you,

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<v Speaker 3>they're getting the stuff you need them to get and

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<v Speaker 3>not the outside stuff around it. Because if you talk

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<v Speaker 3>to guys, they are terrified not of getting you know,

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<v Speaker 3>their PSA and the process can't do it. They're terrified

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<v Speaker 3>that like we're going to lose sexual function, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be ping on ourselves, which is a legitimate concern. You're

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<v Speaker 3>much more worried about the side effects. Well, now AI

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<v Speaker 3>in medicine is helping to take care of that, because

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<v Speaker 3>when you precisely only hit the target, you leave those

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<v Speaker 3>other organs alone.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it because I go to neurology group, beginning

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<v Speaker 2>with doctor Allan Cordell. Now I'm with Patrick Hertz, and

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<v Speaker 2>as a consequence, he has me on flow max. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Tony's on flow max because as men get older,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank god, whether it's your dad, your grandfather, what

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<v Speaker 2>you want men to get older. And as you get older,

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<v Speaker 2>the prosta is like a tree, it keeps getting more

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<v Speaker 2>rings around it with pressures, you know, the flow of

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<v Speaker 2>urine getting up two or three times the night's no good.

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<v Speaker 2>And so but the fear men have a fear of

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<v Speaker 2>having things stuck in them. I don't care if it's

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<v Speaker 2>urology or if it's the bow, you know, having a colonoscopy.

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<v Speaker 2>Those things men don't want to do that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think women want to do it either, but men really

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do it, and so I can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>how many. A couple friends of mine have bowel cancer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is terrible. A few of the friends of mine

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<v Speaker 2>have had prostay cancer, which is more treatable, But men

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to go to the doctor for these purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>As a woman type person, can you tell me?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think some of it is the invincible thing,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I mean, I just think it makes us vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 3>And guys, we were just raised.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy is not vulnerable when.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about this stuff all the time. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll kind of an advantage. We'll learn about the new

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<v Speaker 3>treatments and whatnot. But you should know that even if

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<v Speaker 3>it's not prostate cancer, there's a second thing neurologies group

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<v Speaker 3>is doing on the I have to get up and

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<v Speaker 3>pee all night and it's called prostate artery embolization. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>and I got to watch It's really cool. I got

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<v Speaker 3>to watch them like inject these beads. I know you

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<v Speaker 3>said you don't like stuff stuck in you, but this

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<v Speaker 3>is actually this is actually a liquid full of teeny

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<v Speaker 3>when beats and if they can find the right blood

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<v Speaker 3>vessels that go around the prostate area, the inject these

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<v Speaker 3>little beads into them, and they essentially eventually cut off

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<v Speaker 3>the blood supply which is feeding the prostate getting bigger

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<v Speaker 3>and bigger and bigger, and pretty soon it just shrivels up.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that doesn't sound right, but you do want

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<v Speaker 3>it to just rill and it shrivels up enough that

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<v Speaker 3>you will stop having that kind of pressure the enlarged prostates,

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<v Speaker 3>it shrinks and you stop peeing all night.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that? Well, I'll tell you what. One of our

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<v Speaker 2>advertisers I should not mention his name, so I will

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<v Speaker 2>not without his permission, had that exactly done about six

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, and he said it changed his life for

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<v Speaker 2>the better. He was getting up four or five six

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<v Speaker 2>times a night, couldn't sleep. All of a sudden, he

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<v Speaker 2>had that exact procedure done Eurology Group. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>he's now afraid he can sleep all night, which is important. Now. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about ozempic. So many men and women are

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<v Speaker 2>on these exotic drugs ozempik to lose weight. It was

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<v Speaker 2>perceived to be a drug for some other purpose, just

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<v Speaker 2>like viagra was perceived for some other purpose. All of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it helps certain other areas of life to

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<v Speaker 2>stand up tall and proud and so with Flomax that

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<v Speaker 2>helped me a lot. But now we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about ozempik. Explain in general ozempik off someone's overweight, what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Then ozempik for sex, which is Tony Bender's interest. Explain

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<v Speaker 2>this to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I won't say that we are using ozembic for sex.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you that there are side effects. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we call ozembic penis and ozembic baton, and that might

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<v Speaker 3>influence sex. So let's start with what ozembic or wagov

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<v Speaker 3>or zep bound semaglue tide is what they're called by generics.

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<v Speaker 3>These are drugs that you inject into the abdomen, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're working on a pill. By the way, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be available very soon, if it isn't already. Where

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<v Speaker 3>it delays the gastric emptying, so you eat your lunch

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<v Speaker 3>and rather than it's just kind of going through you

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<v Speaker 3>and digesting at a normal peace, it sits in the

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<v Speaker 3>lower end testine for a while, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 3>you feel less hungry and you eat less and lose weight.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a different concept than the pill helps me

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<v Speaker 3>lose weight. You lose weight because you eat less, and

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<v Speaker 3>you eat less because you're not hungry, so you can

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<v Speaker 3>eat around these things.

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<v Speaker 4>Trust me, not everybody loses weight.

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<v Speaker 5>But you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>They were developed originally to bring your blood sugars down.

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<v Speaker 3>We've now found they help bring weight down, help bring

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<v Speaker 3>blood pressure down, might help your kidneys, might use your

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<v Speaker 3>risk for certain cancers. There's all kinds of things. But

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<v Speaker 3>keep in mind that when stuff is sitting in the gut,

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<v Speaker 3>there's these little bacteria that we have. We call them

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<v Speaker 3>the gut microbiomes and whatnot, and there's, yeah, there's some

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<v Speaker 3>thought that when you mess with those, you mess with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff, like everything from brain signaling to

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<v Speaker 3>your ability and desire to even have sex.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you like that.

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<v Speaker 2>In your belly keep you from wanting to enjoy sex?

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<v Speaker 2>I think a little worms a little bit. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a pleasant look.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, And that's sort of what they are.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a very we're you know, we're fearfully and wonderfully made.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a delicate balance in our gut, and when you

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<v Speaker 3>mess with the balance, there's some thought that you mess

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<v Speaker 3>with the bacteria in your body. And for women it's

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<v Speaker 3>a real thing. They call it odempic vagina and it

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<v Speaker 3>will actually mess with the bacteria which then gives you

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<v Speaker 3>like yeast infections and all the kind of things that

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<v Speaker 3>don't really lend to intimacy. Right, So it's a thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and they say, if you are on this, you should

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<v Speaker 3>tell your doctor if you're noticing things like more yeast infections.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you can address some of that. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of different kinds of over the counter supplements,

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<v Speaker 3>like they call them pro antosyanins, which are like they

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<v Speaker 3>promote there's stuff that's read in cherries and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a good bacteria that can help you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 3>the bowel remove some of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, that you don't want. So women might have

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<v Speaker 2>a choice of losing weight or having sex. I think

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<v Speaker 2>most women would say I'd rather lose weight than have sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I right or wrong about that?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>One of my girlfriends said, when you lose weight, you

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<v Speaker 3>have more sex. So I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's go let's talk about let's talk let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about ozepig long term. Some have said to me, look

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<v Speaker 2>at Fenn Fenn, which supposedly was gonna be a great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Then about ten years later we found out that have

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed heart valves or there was medical How do we

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<v Speaker 2>know ozempic are these other exotic drugs are not having

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<v Speaker 2>an effect we won't know about for ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they've actually been in development for that long, believe

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<v Speaker 3>it or not. I've been watching this research for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. So for more than a decade we have

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<v Speaker 3>watched that. But I think we are seeing some side

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<v Speaker 3>effects we've never seen before. The ozempic vagina and ozempic

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<v Speaker 3>penis is a whole new set of a whole new

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<v Speaker 3>level of things we never talked about. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>think about it, just delaying gas or emptying isn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to have the same effect as like a fen fen

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<v Speaker 3>that shut down your lung. Now we don't know for

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<v Speaker 3>sure what happens when you do leave stuff in the gut,

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<v Speaker 3>like could we later see higher risks of other things? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, we I mean, And there's everything is

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<v Speaker 3>benefit versus risk. But if you talk to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people who are taking it, if you're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>nearing three hundred pounds and your doctor says your heart's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to carry this for much longer, losing the

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<v Speaker 3>weight gives you a benefit that maybe at the time

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<v Speaker 3>greater than the risk. Always got a weigh that. But

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, ozentpic penis is not a real thing

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<v Speaker 3>to see, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain that to Tony Bender. Explain that please.

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<v Speaker 3>They started calling it that because these guys would lose

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<v Speaker 3>the belly the penis looked larger.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And so they were like, I'm not penis, Like, no.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good not a good thing, not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You lose your belly, pleasure get uncle Charlie, gets a

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<v Speaker 2>little more, a little more protrusion, shall we say. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a double whammia in a good way. You lose

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<v Speaker 2>your belly and your thing gets a little bit bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>It appears that way. It's not necessarily true. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you lose your belly, a lot of things get easier,

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<v Speaker 3>like you can see your feet, you know. But what

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's really interesting what you just call it,

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<v Speaker 3>mister Charlie or something. I was working on a story

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<v Speaker 3>when the eed drugs first came out in the newsroom

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<v Speaker 3>and I was trying to, you know, figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>to make it appropriate for the family audience at four

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<v Speaker 3>or five PM. And I'm like, hey, does anyone have

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<v Speaker 3>another word for penis? And let me tell you thea

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<v Speaker 3>I have, like sixteen people pop up, mister Weekley.

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<v Speaker 4>You know whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>There's all kinds of fish, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the names?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>What's up with the names?

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<v Speaker 3>And you guys with all that stuff? You know, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, girls don't name their naty part for some reason.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys all have a name.

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<v Speaker 2>You may call it mss kitty, but I call it

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<v Speaker 2>mister Charlie. So, so getting back to getting getting back

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<v Speaker 2>to zempic right now. You have to inject it, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>You have to inject it. Yeah, I'm watching the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>of of Lily the other day on CNBC. He talked

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<v Speaker 2>about a pill form which many people would find more acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that coming down the road?

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<v Speaker 4>It really is.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually what's really interesting is some of the research

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<v Speaker 3>to do that was done here in the Tri State.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of different as you know, we have

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<v Speaker 3>some rather large research organizations here that do great work,

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<v Speaker 3>and some of those have been testing the semaglu type pill.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's supposed to work in.

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<v Speaker 4>The same way.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to like obviously adjust dosing because the reason

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<v Speaker 3>you inject is so that it goes right into the

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<v Speaker 3>area that you want shift to adjust dosing. But the

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<v Speaker 3>pill is showing positive results, and the number one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that keeps people from selecting the injection are going on

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<v Speaker 3>is they don't like shots. I have a feeling. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>right now, about twelve percent of people are on, so

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<v Speaker 3>one in eight they think is on the ozembic injectable.

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<v Speaker 3>So think about the number of people that are going

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<v Speaker 3>to go on the pill when you can actually pop that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some people saying they're selling it now. It's rolling

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<v Speaker 3>out in limited doses, but probably by the end of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six we're going to see it on a more

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<v Speaker 3>regular thing, and I think it'll regularly be prescribed. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like you, though, man, I think you out of a

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<v Speaker 3>million people on it before you see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would still approach with caution, and I would

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<v Speaker 3>still tell you you lose weight because.

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<v Speaker 4>You eat less.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like a magic fat burning pill. You got

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<v Speaker 3>stuff sitting in the gut delayed that so you don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel it's hungry. And that's great if it helps you

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<v Speaker 3>eat less.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what all these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Are doing now is they're taking the drugs they want

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie to look better and they don't exercise, don't change

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<v Speaker 3>their diet. Well, what happens then when you go off that?

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<v Speaker 2>I see this statistic, Yeah, I talk about that lits

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<v Speaker 2>when you go off that. I've seen statistics that it

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<v Speaker 2>has negative consequences for someone's muscular structure, et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 2>at some point you go off of it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It may be as high as ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the people regain the weight plus ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Percent they like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And part of that is people that exercise may

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<v Speaker 3>have as much as double the success rate keeping weight

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<v Speaker 3>off compared to people that don't. And it's not because

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<v Speaker 3>like you really burn so much, so many more calories exercising.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think about what exercise does, it builds muscle,

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<v Speaker 3>and when a muscle is fit, it uses up more

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<v Speaker 3>energy throughout the day. So when you're sitting around doing nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>you're still burning more calories. Okay, but also you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you, but I dragged my butt

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<v Speaker 3>up and get on the lip or get on the

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<v Speaker 3>treadmill at four in the morning every day because it

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<v Speaker 3>helps my mental health. I mean, like I want to

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<v Speaker 3>hurt people coming in if I don't do that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think there is a therapy to that that is

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<v Speaker 3>the cheapest therapy you will ever find, And in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 3>then your body's getting a benefit. Well why do you overeat?

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<v Speaker 3>You overeat generally because you're like pissed off or stressed

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<v Speaker 3>out or frustrated, or it tastes good. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have another coping mechanism, which is what exercise can

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<v Speaker 3>help you with, you don't ever really have a way

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of work against that. So you stop taking

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<v Speaker 3>the drug, you feel hungry again, and you start picking out.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's one hundred reasons to incorporate, you know, regular

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<v Speaker 3>exercise and some diet changes in theount.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm told these drugs are extremely expensive, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>coming down if it goes to a pill form, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>that I can see five or ten years all of

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<v Speaker 2>us on these things. I can see all of us

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<v Speaker 2>on one pill with all of these things in it,

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<v Speaker 2>right within five or ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so they thought that about like statins, like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>we should put them in the world for your heart,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but there will always be people that will

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<v Speaker 3>have side effects, So who knows. But one thing I

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<v Speaker 3>do think is that you know, we talked about the AI.

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<v Speaker 3>The DNA testing is going to start when you're like

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<v Speaker 3>an infant now, or maybe when you get to be

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<v Speaker 3>an adult, and they'll be able to tell you, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you're predisposed for obesity or you're predisposed for heart disease,

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<v Speaker 3>and they probably will start putting us on some of

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<v Speaker 3>these preventative you know, for preventive purposes. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a prescription used for a whole

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<v Speaker 3>different purpose. But yeah, if you're looking at like medical

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<v Speaker 3>stocks for investment, these would be good ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably absolutely. If twelve percent of I'm not on it yet,

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<v Speaker 2>you're skinny and good shape, don't have to be on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see at some point someone's saying, I could

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<v Speaker 2>lose thirty forty fifty pounds with little or no side effects.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take Ozembic has this side effect of helping Miss

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<v Speaker 2>Kitty and also Charlie, and it's a consequence. Everybody's happy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can see in one pill having everything in

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<v Speaker 2>one pill. Low cholesterol, maybe high blood pressure, it might

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<v Speaker 2>be for weight purposes, it might be for liver or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. It'll be within five or ten years

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<v Speaker 2>of one pill for everything, is that where we're headed.

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<v Speaker 2>M Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there'll be one pill for weight loss. No,

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<v Speaker 3>this is specific purposes. But you know what's really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>about this is I've read some really interesting research that

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<v Speaker 3>when you take away hunger, you lose your zest for

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<v Speaker 3>certain things, like you mention, like the sexual intimacy. There's

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<v Speaker 3>some people who say, like, I just kind of didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really want to do anything if I didn't want to eat.

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<v Speaker 3>You forget how much like hunger plays a role in

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<v Speaker 3>going to dinner and being excited about seeing someone. And

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder, Yeah, drink drink and wine, which leads to

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<v Speaker 3>more intimacy. Yeah, there's some thought that this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to influence or this can influence your life in ways

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<v Speaker 3>that you never really thought about. And if you're if

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<v Speaker 3>food has been like your passion and now it's not,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to notice things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not saying that's.

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<v Speaker 3>All bad, but it's fascinating to watch all the things

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<v Speaker 3>that happen when you start altering the guts like you

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<v Speaker 3>talk about, Charlie. But the gun alfors the brain, and

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<v Speaker 3>the brain is a powerful organ, let.

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<v Speaker 4>Me tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you start messing with that and you lose

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<v Speaker 3>your passion for food and life and dust and wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to do stuff. I don't know if we're all going

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<v Speaker 3>to want to be on that or not be like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's where like people who said they tried marijuana,

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<v Speaker 3>it just made them not want to do anything right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you want to eat a bunch of pizza

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<v Speaker 2>and eat popcorn. And I don't know what the ELL's going.

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<v Speaker 2>And we don't know the long term effects of marijuana

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<v Speaker 2>for teenagers. We have no idea in thirty years what

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to deal with. But list Bonus, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to run. You're the best at what you do, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're a wonderful guest. More importantly, you're like a encyclopedia

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<v Speaker 2>of health. And I think Channel twelve should double your

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<v Speaker 2>salary and cut your ears in half. Do you agree?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, I'm going to play this little snippet

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<v Speaker 3>for my boss.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell them right now, tell them to give me

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<v Speaker 2>a call. I'll set him straight. Liz Bonus, All.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, good deal, Thank you you and yours, Merry Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>in the Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Liz bon God bless you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's continue with more Let's continue. Wow, never thought about

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie and Miss Kitty now in any other way. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>continue with more news coming up. And that was Liz Bonus,

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<v Speaker 2>the best of what she does on news Radio seven

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the commercials in a hurry. But until then,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of bookkeeping matters. After one o'clock today, we

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<v Speaker 2>have Peter Bronson, it's going to be here. Wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>new book about certain murders and other things happening in

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<v Speaker 2>River City and also the references to Stan Chesley with

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<v Speaker 2>Fenfinn murder Mystery and more. And he'll be here after

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock today. After two o'clock, we've scheduled Carrie Severino,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a close personal friend of Amy Coney Barrett. She

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<v Speaker 2>was a federal law clerk with Clarence Thomas. She's written

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<v Speaker 2>several books on what the Supreme Court's going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen her on Fox News other platforms. Carrie Severena

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<v Speaker 2>will be here after two o'clock and so we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens to all of that. A couple of housekeeper

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<v Speaker 2>matters and this will not be covered by the mainstream

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<v Speaker 2>media because it doesn't fit their conclusions. How about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas hid tons of infant formula and nutritional shakes in

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<v Speaker 2>order to smear Israel. And I'm reading this story out

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<v Speaker 2>of Switzerland, by the way, you might recall, for months

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<v Speaker 2>and months and months, the world chipped in large quantities

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<v Speaker 2>of baby formula and they're ready to eat meals and

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<v Speaker 2>no one knew where the food went. Israel at some

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<v Speaker 2>point said we sent in tons of food, allowed it

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<v Speaker 2>to go in. Now we're not allowing anymore until someone's

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<v Speaker 2>discovering what's happening to the food. So for more than

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<v Speaker 2>two years, the pro Palestinian crowd, mainly democrats on college campuses,

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<v Speaker 2>accused Israel of starving people in Gaza, especially children, committing genocide.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out it was all lie, and here is proof. Hamas,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the Red Cross in Switzerland, hid tons of

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<v Speaker 2>baby formula to hurt children, to cause as much death

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<v Speaker 2>and disease as possible, and to damage Israel. The goal

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<v Speaker 2>was to worsen the hunger crisis and initiate a disaster

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<v Speaker 2>as part of the Hamas's famine narrative. In a desperate

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<v Speaker 2>effort to stop Israel's onslaught against Gaza and forced the

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<v Speaker 2>return of UN's aid distribution mechanism and away from the

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<v Speaker 2>controversial Gaza humanitarian foundation which supplied the money. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>obvious that we've documented the waste and deliberate disposal of

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<v Speaker 2>tons of baby formula for Palestinian babies, nutritional children shaken,

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<v Speaker 2>more children's powdered milk which Hamas hoarded away. Given the

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<v Speaker 2>saturation of the coastal enclay with humanitarian aid and the

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<v Speaker 2>cease fire for months to continue, Hamas hid tons of

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<v Speaker 2>baby formula and destroyed nutritional shakes meant for children inside

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<v Speaker 2>a warehouse to allow gozens to starve and further as

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<v Speaker 2>claims of widespread genocide by the Jews. Hamad Fuad, a

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<v Speaker 2>Islamic activist, I'm sorry Hamas activists accused the terror group

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<v Speaker 2>of hoarding food meant for children in order cause as

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<v Speaker 2>much much death and disease as possible. This isn't the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. This is with the Hamasis withheld aid to

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<v Speaker 2>make a political point. This is a huge international story,

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed by the International Red Cross and by UN humanitarian groups.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard about this in the media. This came out.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, the date was December third, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>been out about a week and ABC, NBCCBS silence. Why

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't fit the media narrative. You have to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>me to get the truth. So Hamas wanted to kill

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<v Speaker 2>as many Palestinian children as possible to put pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>Israel internationally so they would stop what they're doing. Let

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas have more control than Gaza. So the Gozans were

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 2>murdered and killed by Hamas. How big is this story?

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>It's bigger than Montana, but it will not be covered

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't fit, does it. Secondly, I like to

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 2>highlight good people doing good things in deer Park the

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 2>root of it all. Natasha Cohorst is on city Council

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>in deer Park. Natasha Cohorst, and she put together an

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 2>effort to shop with a cop. There's fifty to sixty

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>families in deer Park that are going to have special Christmases,

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>many businesses in deer Park, many graduates at deer Park

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 2>High School. Good intended individuals put together at several thousands

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 2>of dollars and they've identified through Amity School, the grade school,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:41.199
<v Speaker 2>fifty to sixty families that need some help. As you

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>know Chris Euster and Deer Park has a closet in

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>which Deer Park families put their extra clothing. So if

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>someone in the school system needs clothing, a coat, a

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 2>pair of shoes, whatever it is, there's a closet available

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>you can go into and pick out whatever you want.

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 2>And now Natasha Cohorst of Deer Park City Council is

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>going to make sure these families at risk in deer Park.

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Guess what, have more of a Christmas. The otherwise would

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 2>not have good people doing good things. So congratulations shop

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>on the shop with the comp and deer Park. They're

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>going to go to Target or they're on Blint Blue

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 2>on Blue Ash Road, and these kids are going to

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>have a great Christmas. And thirdly, you talk about the

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 2>billions and billions of dollars stolen just in Minnesota. This

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>is how it worked. And by the way, there's been

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 2>zero coverage of this story by ABC, NBC and CBS

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>or NPR on the national news. They don't cover it

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 2>because it is so bad. The Somalians figured out with

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the assistance of their governor, Tim Waltz and the attorney

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>general of a guy named Allison, and the mayor, a

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 2>guy named Fry, and also the Biden administration to put

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 2>together dozens and dozens of medical clinics occupied by so

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 2>called Somali doctors that literally provided thousands and thousands of

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>kids in Minneapolis calling I'm autistic. And in consequence there

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 2>was a special government program to assist autistic children with

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 2>teachers and medical care and hunger treatment, et cetera, and

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 2>verbal skills, et cetera. So over the years under the

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Democrats in Minnesota, the number may be as many as

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 2>eight billion US dollars. It could be as little as

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 2>one point five billion. Were these fraudulent clinics in which

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the money flowed from Washington in the Minneapolis into the

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Smalan community. And then there were millions and millions and

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>millions of kids that did not receive care in Minneapolis,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>but the monies were kept by the fraudsters, several hundred Somalians,

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 2>some of whom elin Omar. For example, the congressman was

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>worth sixty thousand dollars six years ago. She's now worth

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 2>thirty million dollars. How do you go into public service

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and you come out worth tens of millions of dollars

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and not be corrupt? It's impossible. And also El Shabab,

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>which is a terrorist group in Somealia, was involved in

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>the fraud in which there were millions and millions of

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 2>dollars of the billions of dollars wasted of your money

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that went to Al Shabab and Somalia to kill more

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Christians in Somalia, which is a completely dysfunctional government. Now

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 2>this is a huge story, but when called on it,

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis and the governor and the mayor and the attorney

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>general all say it's racism. To point it out, it's

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 2>all racism. And of course all of their citizenship applications

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.439
<v Speaker 2>were mainline to make it easier to steal more money,

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and you paid for it. And by the way, that

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 2>is one American city, that is one clan in one

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>liberal state. Most of the democratic the Blue states will

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>not share with the FEDS any SNAP recipient information. So

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 2>you can cross check to see number one of their

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>citizens number two. Are there multiple Snap accounts using different

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>social gurity numbers but the same person. And now the

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>blue cities and Blue states will not give the FEDS

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the information of how big the fraud truly is. Do

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>you think we have problems? Absolutely? Oh, let's continue with more.

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to the commercials. Coming up in about

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes or so will be Peter Bronson, formerly editorial

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>page director of The Inquiries Now is a great author,

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>also later on as Carrie Severino about cases before the

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>US Supreme Court and more. But I want to congratulate

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Natasha Cohorst of Deer Park count That's the way it

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>should work. Person of person, people in need. We can

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>add that person's in need, let's help that person. Let's

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>not have a government agency with billions of dollars part

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>of fraud, manipulated by liberal democratic cities to pay themselves

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>lots of money and to fund terrorism all over the world.

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't this be We're is sixty minutes when you need it.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Leslie Stall get to Minneapolis the report on this. Do

0:29:55.720 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>you think she will? Hell no, Let's continue you with more.

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Bill Cunning and the great American speaking truth to power

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a news radio seven hundred WLW. My Billy Cunning him

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a great American. Of course. Peter Bronson comes by once

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 2>or twice a year to talk about a recent book

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 2>of his. A new one out is The Magical History Tour, Murder,

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Mystery and Buried History. Showed stories by Peter Bronson with

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the Inquir for many years as a columnists also ran

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 2>that Didn't you run the place for a while? No,

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I did not.

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 6>I was editorial page editor, so I ran the opinion section.

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 6>I was an associate editor that was the title, and

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 6>then I was a full time columnist after that.

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>So when did you begin as with the Inquir? What

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>year was that? Ninety two? Editorial page editor? That was?

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>That was big?

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 6>Whate what TV, radio and newspapers have gone through. Oh

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 6>my gosh, thirty three years. When I got there, bill

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 6>the Inquire was three hundred and sixty five thousand. I

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 6>remembered that because it's a thousand every day of the year,

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 6>three hundred and sixty five thousand circulation.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>That thing was big as a yule log. Right when

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>it was delivered and we got out. I get up

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, I walk out the end of my driveway,

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.719
<v Speaker 2>pick up the paper and come back. Now. Oh, if

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 2>you set your dog up, the dog.

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 6>Does sixty five thousand, three hundred and sixty five thousands.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like twenty two thousands. Oh, I don't know. The

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>last I heard was around forty thousand. Maybe.

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 6>But if they're counting online in that then that's kind

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 6>of high. So it's just a very sad story about

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 6>what happened to newspapers. It was such a fun business

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 6>and unfortunately it's kind of a thing in the past,

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 6>like horseshoes.

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>It's ever ever, every and in just the inquir it's

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>every it's everywhere, everywhere, every newspaper, yeah, every radio station. Well,

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>we used to have one hundred and twenty five employees.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I think we have now about thirty or forty. And

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>local news, local TV news. Everybody's going to streaming.

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 6>They want everything tailored to their political opinion and their

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 6>point of view, so they get their news from places

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 6>like facebooks and Twitter feeds.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Good.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 5>Not good.

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>This is not news. These are not professionals. We'll talk

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>about magical history tour. But is this good to bad?

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>For the for the republic, for the democracy good? Or

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>isn't it bad? It's terrible.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 6>It's terrible because we used to have people staffing all

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 6>of the local government meetings and they had somebody looking

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 6>over their shoulder, so you know, before they did something wrong,

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 6>they would look both ways.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a sure enquire here. Yeah, who's listening? Not anymore?

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 2>So what have we seen since then?

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 6>We see scandal after scandal, corruption, stupidity, no watch dog, No.

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 2>No, we're gonna have a mayor who doesn't pay his

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>car payments. Yeah, yeah, he's kind of you know, right

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>now I have to appear of all us having some troubles.

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't make any difference. If the election were

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>held tomorrow, he would still give eighty two percent of

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the vote. Absolutely, it's no joke. If they don't pay

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 2>your note, that sounds like an ad.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>And then council members, of course go to prison. Yes,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 2>that's another issue. And then two or three more they

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>got bankruptcy problems, and they got they don't pay their notes,

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>and they know there's no In fact, I speak to

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>politicians off to Warren County Butler County, and I go

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>in and I said, do you have anybody looking over

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>your shoulder what you're doing?

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 6>And the answer is uniformly no. No, there's no coverage

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 6>of what it shows.

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>It does.

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 6>It shows in what the kind of government we're getting,

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 6>which isn't good, not much.

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the book before I forget. My friend

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Fritz Horn wants to wish you a happy birthday, which

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>is coming up tomorrow. Tomorrow, I turned seventy eight years old.

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Seventy eight, whoa, I know it. I don't know where

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 2>the years of six behind you? Six? Well, I always

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>said I want to be eighty. I hope to make

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>it to eighty. You'll make it. Make it eighty, bear,

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>look like you're going to make it. My body, by

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the way, is sixty one. That Kerry Okus did this

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>big thing on me. You did the whole scan, did this?

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Did that?

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 6>He said, I have a body. He said, you're sixty one.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 6>I said, well, that's not when my mother told to No,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 6>I guess I'm forty forty. All right, let's talk about

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 6>the book first of all, before we do that, you

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 6>have an ex serb in here yea.

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 2>And eighteen seventy eight. Yes, Cincinnati was shocked when grave robbers,

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>my ancestors took this so of a former president from

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>his fresh grave in North ben Yes, detective which almost

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 2>became Cincinnati. North Bend was close two hundred years ago

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>to becoming Cincinnati, but did norkhem. Yeah, but detectives found

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the body hanging in a pit at Cincinnati's Ohio Medical

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 2>College eighteen seventy eight.

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 6>It's quite that story. Oh, it's an amazing story. So

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 6>this guy who was taken the night he was buried,

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 6>his body was stolen from Congress Green Cemetery, which is

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 6>right across the street from the William Henry Harrison Memorial

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.280
<v Speaker 6>on Mountain Nebo in North Bend, Okay.

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 2>His body is hauled out of the grave the very

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 2>night he is buried. Do we know who did it?

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Was it Old County? Was it William Cunningham? Might have

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 2>been your what is that great grande? He was a

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 2>grave robber, he was a resurrectionist.

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 6>Please continue, Yes, So the mistake they made was usually

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 6>they took their bodies for dissection from the paupers cemetery

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 6>or what they called the colored section of the cemeteries.

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 6>And in those days that was common because those people

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 6>had no influence to object. But this time they took

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 6>President's son, William Henry Harrison's son.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>For one reason.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 6>Also, get this, he was also the father of a president,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 6>his son, his own son, Benjamin Harrison Harrison became president later.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 6>So this guy whose body they took has the unique

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 6>He is the single person in US history who was

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 6>both the son and a father of a US go

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.959
<v Speaker 6>The son I think eighteen forty ninth President William Henry

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 6>Harrison died somewhat quickly.

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he died suddenly in his sleep. And then his son,

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>forty years later eighteen eighties, Yes, became a president. So

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>this guy was the son and the father of are

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 2>This guy was a notable this guy like a George Bush.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 6>Talk well, he was a well known person and very

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 6>beloved in the community. And when they found his grave missing,

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.280
<v Speaker 6>of course, that was a huge scandal.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>There's some speculation.

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 6>I think there's good reason to believe that the doctors,

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 6>the dean who ran the Ohio Medical College specifically asked

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 6>for that body because they often put orders in. And

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 6>I think, yes, in fact, there was I've learned.

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 2>This he would last meet some Marco say about this.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 6>Here it gets better. I learned from my friend Lieutenant

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 6>Steve Kramer at the Cincinnati Police Museum that there was

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 6>even a custom called burking, in which people would kill

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 6>you for your body and sell it and sell your

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 6>clothes and jewelry.

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Burking. Yeah.

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 6>So, uh, let's say they see Bill Cunningham walking down

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 6>the street and some medical school student says, I want

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 6>that one.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.720
<v Speaker 2>What they knock you over the head and bury.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 6>You strip your body of ball it's clothes, sell your clothes,

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 6>sell your jewelry. So anyway, so they chose the wrong

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 6>guy here, son of a president, and the family called

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 6>in Pinkertons from Chicago who came over to investigate. And

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 6>lo and behold, the son of the dead man finds

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 6>the body hanging in a pit at the Medical College.

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 6>The Medical College of Ohio was indirectly involved in trafficking

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 6>dead bodies directly.

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 6>I didn't want to make directly explain that. You think

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 6>we got problems today, wait an otr, we got problems. However,

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 6>the Medical College which is now U see the Medical

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 6>College of Ohio, would order up dead bodies to be dissected, Yes,

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 6>and they paid for them, and they would then bring

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 6>them and they'd drop them off. They found this guy

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 6>because people reported seeing a wagon pull up at the

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 6>Ohio Medical College, as it often did in the wee

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 6>hours of the morning, the dark of night, and dropped

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:29.879
<v Speaker 6>off a long sheet wrapped object which looked a lot

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 6>like a body.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>How much would they pay for these bodies?

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 6>It ranged depending on this the decomposition. If they were fresh,

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 6>they might get as much as twenty five dollars ten dollars.

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 6>It didn't take much to buy a body in those days.

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 6>And in fact, this thing got so out of hand

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 6>that there were riots in many cities when people would

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 6>find their loved ones on the table being dissected after

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 6>they'd been ripped out of the grave, and they were

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 6>burning down medical college.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:58.280
<v Speaker 2>This happened.

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 6>It was a famous riot in New York City where

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 6>a man was walking down the street and the students

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 6>were dissecting his recently departed wife in the front window.

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Why what was the reason? There had to be a reason.

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Did they want to find out where the kidney is,

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>where's the stomach, where's the heart?

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 6>How does the pancreas? Why would yes, all physicians do

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 6>this all of the above They needed for the purpose

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 6>of learning surgery. They needed to know what they'd find

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 6>when they opened up the body, and they needed first

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 6>hand experience. So the problem then was that nobody was

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 6>donating their bodies for medical science, so they had no

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 6>source of bodies. Now, you can make some justification for it,

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 6>but the whole thing got completely out of control. Cincinnati

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 6>was like the hub of body snatching for the whole Midwest.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 6>They found Cincinnati. Bodies had been shipped all the way

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 6>to ann Arbor for the University of Michigan Medical School.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Now you're worry about my family, I'm reading from the

0:38:56.040 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>inquir Story of the eighteen seventy eight William Cunningham was

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>a body snatcher who lived in Cincinnati, Ohio. A professional resurrectionist,

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Cunningham provided corpse for area physicians and medical colleges, popular

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 2>popularly known as Old Cunny. Other names attributed to Cunningham

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>include old Man Dead in the Ghoul, that he was

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 2>born in Ireland, perhaps in eighteen oh seven, but came here.

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 2>He was a mortician, he was a medical director. He

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 2>was a funeral director, and he'd make money on the

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 2>front end, the middle, in the back. Yes.

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 6>And he did it all at Washington Park. Oh yeah,

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 6>I can picture that. You can picture William Cemetery there

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 6>at one time, and that's where he would he would

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 6>pay the family to bury the body. He would then

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 6>and the dead of the knight he would pull them

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 6>out of the ground. He had a hook system under

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 6>the arms. We put the change down and pull him up,

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 6>rifle through the pockets, take out some gold teeth, and

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 6>then put the body next to him as he went

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 6>up and down Vine Street, saying to the corpse who

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 6>was dangling, say something funny, say something funny. And it

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 6>was so dark there were no lights out, just a

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 6>little handle light that And that's how my family got started,

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 6>My body snatcher, My my family roots go deep. I

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 6>guess six feet team now now to be consider this.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Just look up, William Cunningham. This could be your next book.

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It might be, it might be another story. I was

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 2>talk about my friend and yours, Stan Chesley, and that's

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 2>in the book which is Magical History, Tour, Murder, Mystery

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 2>and Buried History. Explain about Fenn Fenn. I had on

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Liz Bonus talking about the Fenn Fenn about an hour

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 2>or so ago. But explain about Stan Chesley recently departed.

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Well rest in peace, Stan.

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 6>But this was the downfall of a not only locally

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 6>but nationally and world famous litigator.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>He was the master of disaster.

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 6>He was involved in all these huge cases, you know them,

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 6>the implant cases, the Hills now Beverly Hills, got to

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 6>start at Beverly Hills, Vegas. And this time I guess

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 6>most people would say, as you might, that he reached

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 6>a little two far and he was involved in one

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 6>of the most scandalous cases. In fact, at one point,

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 6>the federal judge during this trial said, I would like

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 6>to put all of the lawyers in jail. Really yeah,

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 6>with that Bamberger he was involved with. Bamberger explained, Bamberger

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 6>was the He was a bad He was a bad guy,

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 6>wasn't he. Bamberger was the bad guy. He was the

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 6>one who was The Wall Street journalmen they wrote an

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 6>editorial about this. They said, this whole case shocks the

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 6>conscience that there could be such unbelievably brazen bribery and

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 6>corruption in this case. But what you had here, Bill,

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 6>you know from the litigation's history that you had this

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 6>jackpot of these settlements where these drug companies, this drug company,

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 6>American Home Products had basically agreed to pay out unbelievable

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 6>amounts without any verification that these victims were actual victims

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 6>of the diet drug. So that the basically it's like

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 6>throwing chum in the water, and the litigation sharks came circling.

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 6>And that's when the big white, great white sharks came,

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 6>and that would be Chesley, and they brought in Bamberger,

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 6>who was judge. Yes, and he took twenty I think

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 6>it was fifty thousand dollars for.

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Basically fixing the case. Let's go back in time just

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Fenn. Fenn was a diet drug, yes,

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 2>but it was thought to be the magic elixir, much

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>like current ozempig. Yes, but ozempig appears to be a

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 2>better drug than what fenfenn. We don't know. We'll know

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>in ten years. Yeah, we'll no find it, just like

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>we did with Everybody thought it was fantastics way, but

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 2>it affected a heart valve or something. It did. It

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>caused all kinds of problems.

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 6>It also reduced the body's ability to even create serotonin,

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 6>which is what keeps you happy. So people who had

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 6>bet on this for a while lost the ability to

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 6>find joy in their lives. They it wasn't something the

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 6>body could repair. It was permanent damage, plus cardiopulmonary disease

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 6>and all kinds of side effects. Now were they somewhat exaggerated?

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, mandously exaggerated by the litigators, But nonetheless there

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 6>are many, many cases of women, mainly women, who took

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 6>this drug and suffered for it.

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 2>So the drug there were three lawyers, I forget their names.

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>One was a guy named Cunningham, not me. Yes, and

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the three of them crowd all the cases and got

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>it before a friendly judge in northern Kentucky named Bamberger,

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 2>and they felt like they were overwhelmed a little bit.

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 2>How do we do this? So they brought in a

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>master of disaster, stan Chesley. Take it from there.

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 6>Well, stan Chesley came in and he was hired because

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 6>he was the guy who knew how to work. He

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 6>was already working with the drug companies group that was

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.399
<v Speaker 6>deciding who would be paid in the litigations. So here

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 6>he's got a conflict. I would think most people would agree.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 6>If he's working with the drug companies to allocate settlements,

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 6>how does he end up also on the plaintiff's side

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 6>to get a settlement. So there's all kinds of conflicts

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 6>and things going on. A little footnote would be Bill Gallion,

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 6>who was the lead, one of the lead Kentucky attorneys

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 6>from Lexington, big, big shot at University of Kentucky, blue

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 6>blood guy. He also was pardoned by Joe Biden in

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 6>the autopen pardon scandal.

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Really yes, so san Chesley, was it greed because this

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 2>guy was companies were frightening him. You get a letter

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 2>from san Chesley Pharmaceutical companies. He came up with the

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.919
<v Speaker 2>theories of Beverly Hills that were the fabrics themselves. Yes,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>gave off nations owners. No one thought about that when

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills happened and was at nineteen seventy seventy seven,

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 2>and that was, okay, not much you can do. You

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 2>got the building is done, got a little bit of land.

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 2>But then stan came up with these novel theories of

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.760
<v Speaker 2>how these three m and other companies were actually creating

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>fabric that caused the deaths. Suddenly there was one hundred

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 2>million dollars available and from there he was off and running.

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>This guy, he's a fabulous personality. I had lunch and

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>dinner with him when Mitch's house. Susan Delotte, federal judge

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.760
<v Speaker 2>well knected, gave a lot of money to the Clintons,

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 2>got the appointment, et cetera, and they all good time.

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 6>What mistake did Stan Chesley make? Well, I mean it's

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 6>pretty clear here when you looked. I sat through a

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 6>lot of days of this trial, and I watched the

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 6>deposition that was done, uh, and it was one of

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 6>the most hostile, extreme, uncomfortable depositions I've ever seen.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen very many, but that thing was unbelievable.

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 6>If you were going to make a TV drama about

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 6>the stereotypical corrupt lawyer, that's what it looked like.

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>He was a bully.

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 6>He was absolutely uncooperative, and he kind of had this

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 6>attitude that the jury picked up right away, I believe,

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 6>which was that I'm Stan Chesli.

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Don't you know who I am? And it doesn't play

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 2>well in court. No, it doesn't you know who I

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Whenever you say to a copper, to a judge or jury,

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 2>don't you know who I am? You've lost from Yes,

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think the federal judgement Bertlesman and Bamberger was

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the benet judge, state court judge. He was a Kentucky judge.

0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 6>Yes judge, Oh okay, So anyway, at one point two, the

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 6>judge raised a lot of questions about how comes Stan

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 6>got immunity and all these other three guys, did you

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.760
<v Speaker 6>know one of the guys, one of the lawyers in Kentucky.

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 6>His defense, and he got off this way, was that

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 6>he was too sousd to know what was going on

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 6>when these clients were being ripped off.

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm drunk. Yeah, I was an alcoholic. Yeah, I

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 2>got it out and you get pulled over on I

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>seventy one? Hey, mister officer, I'm too drunk to be

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 2>pulled over. What that's a true story? He said, Look, judge,

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm so drunk that jury bought it. And they bought it,

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 2>So how you're not yelty?

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 6>He was drinking more than one of those half gallon

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 6>bottles of old Crow every day. He said, I had

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 6>no idea what these other two guys were doing, and

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 6>so they took pity on him.

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 2>And well stan Chesley's now passed on, and he did

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot more good than bad, but this wasn't a

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>good chapter in his life. Peter Bronson a Chili Dog Press.

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>How to the American people for Christmas get a copy

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 2>of this about the magical history Tour, Murder Mystery and

0:46:56.760 --> 0:47:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Barrett History four five short stories Peter Bron's and mainly

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 2>connected to Cincinnati. And how how did the American people

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 2>get to copy of the book?

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 6>Well, you can get that signed copies at my website

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 6>which is Chili Dog Press dot com. And there's still

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.240
<v Speaker 6>plenty of time to order those for Christmas also available

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 6>to all the local bookstores Barnes and Noble, Joseph Beth,

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 6>wherever books are sold in Cincinnati, and also on Amazon.

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 6>I like to support the local bookstores, but I understand

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 6>a lot of people love the convenience of Amazon and

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 6>the free shipping.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 2>There's this thing about Bill Cunningham, the body snatcher. Oh yeah,

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a story there. There is a great story there.

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I think I think we just scratched the surface. Peter Bronson,

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>you're the best. Thanks for coming on this afternoon, you Bill.

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's continue as a pleasure. Let's continue with more news

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0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the Stealers tie to the next four games and the

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Bengals sweep the next four, they're in the playoffs. That's

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 2>route for tie. That's route for ties with the Stealers.

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<v Speaker 2>On news Radio seven hundred WLW. I remember Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Hello, Bietum Skokes. I'm broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>Segment of the Inchoir. Put out a long story about

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 2>what the Reds did to try to get Kyle Schwarber,

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>which was five years, one and twenty five million, a

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty five million short And I'll say this, you loved him.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him. Never ever met him. I never met him.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a nice young man, very good, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>good man. He's gonna turn Is it thirty three or

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four? He's thirty one now I believe we'll check

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<v Speaker 2>it out. But in order thirty two I think, I

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 2>think thirty two or thirty. But by the time this

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 2>is concluding, he'll be thirty seven. Strikes out two hundred

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 2>times a year, and he doesn't play defense. But I'd

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.800
<v Speaker 2>take him anyway compared to him into that. You kidding.

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Just let him dh and just let him hit. But

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<v Speaker 2>three times in the last quarter century, the Reds have said,

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>let's spend big bucks. Griffy r Almost two hundred million?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that work out? Not good? Then, Mike? How

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 2>about Mike Mustakis? Does ask sixty five million? Was that

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 2>was that disaster? How boutch of Mark Candelaria? Forty five disaster?

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 2>So he took me about show hey or what's his name? Aki?

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Or what the Japanese guy they got a few years

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 7>ago that turned out to be nothing? One time he's

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 7>back over in Japan. He played center field, the left hander. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>but the Reds have put out two hundred million dollars.

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, three hundred million dollars and got nothing to

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 7>Griffy Junior, Mustakas and Candelaria.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking, you know what, what the hell? But

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 2>do you pay him one hundred and fifty million dollars

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 2>over five years? What do you say?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they said that, I guess the thing that knocked

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<v Speaker 7>it into the Phillies.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know Willie. Maybe he didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't want to leave Philadelphia, and they said that

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 7>they guaranteed that fifth year, and that's what kind of

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 7>jump started him to go to Philadelphia. So Red's made

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 7>and the Oriel made him the same as offered him

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<v Speaker 7>the same money as Philadelphia did.

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<v Speaker 2>He he turns He was born March fifth, nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 2>so he turns thirty three years old in March.

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<v Speaker 7>So he doesn't he doesn't play in the fielding, so

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<v Speaker 7>he just he's gonna stay healthy. Well, you know, all

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 7>ask dudes run the bases after a home run. But

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<v Speaker 7>say give me into the students report, please? Will he

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<v Speaker 7>Baseball Today, Pete Alonzo's headed to the Baltimore Orioles five year,

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 7>one and fifty five million dollar deal deal.

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 2>So he got more of a deal. He got a

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 2>deal deal, He got more of a deal deal, and

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Swarmer got I would have taken Swarm over the Polar Bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes or no? Yes, go ahead? Bengals update.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's see the Bengals today signing wide receiver Xavier Johnson

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 7>to their practice squad's first year player out of Ohio State,

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 7>Cincinnati navid native, and he started Summit Country Day defensive

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 7>ends Shamar Stewart remember him, huh, he's he's He's cleared

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 7>the practice now. So that's another bus that he's been

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 7>out since November fifteenth with a knee injury. He's been

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 7>out since August. T Higgins limited again today at practice.

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 7>How about his catches with his concussion protocol? He played,

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 7>He played, He gave it all in the field of honor.

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<v Speaker 7>Back to the Reds. They are considering maybe trading for

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:01.240
<v Speaker 7>Kettle Marte or Brandon Low.

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<v Speaker 2>Eh So, I don't know Brandon Low. He's Kettle Marte.

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:11.359
<v Speaker 7>He's Kettle Marte is with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Is you any good? I think so? See what else?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still angry about this Swarmer situation. So you're saying

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<v Speaker 2>it was only a mere thirty million dollars five million

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<v Speaker 2>a year plus the fifth year, it was only a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty million?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that what I'm saying? Only thirty million? Rights that

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>To you right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, maybe not to you or a Rocky. There's a

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 7>lot of money to me.

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a hard one, seg I'm the voice of the

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>common man, for God's sakes.

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 7>Miami RedHawks in college basketball tonight are at unc Ashville

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:44.879
<v Speaker 7>and Minnesota takes on number six per Due.

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 2>It's sixty days until Super Bowl sixty. Of course, the

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Bengals don't think wait a minute, I'm watching Fox Sports

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 2>this morning. Yeah, the windows open this year for the Bengals.

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready? They better get some Teme Starr and

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>get some heat in there. Steelers lose or tie Miami. Yeah,

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>bengalspeed handily the Ravens. Okay, all right, then it's down

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 2>to two games and the next three games. If the

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Bengals win the next three and the Steelers lose one

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.399
<v Speaker 2>of the remaining three after they tie and tie one

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 2>of the next two after that, the Bengals are in.

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 7>Also, Willie, we say happy birthday today to number nine

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 7>Bill Plummer, Joe Burrow Brow, Happy birthdays twenty nine. Right,

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<v Speaker 7>Hot Stove League back to Baseball Hot Stove League tonight

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 7>at six oh five, they're going to be talking to

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 7>Mark Sheldon, who has been at the Winter Meetings that

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:45.840
<v Speaker 7>ends today. What its hesa and reliever Emilio Pagan is

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 7>a special guest. He signed for a two year deal, right, Yeah,

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 7>he was twenty million. Generally he was pretty good. Yes,

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:55.319
<v Speaker 7>not all the time, but you know, you got your

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 7>ups and downs. You know that it being a sportsman

0:53:57.640 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 7>that you are. Now, I have many ups and downs

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:01.360
<v Speaker 7>in my I want to have more ups and downs.

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 7>Does I know that so I have too many downs,

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 7>not enough ups. If they've got your tongue stuck to

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 7>a metal pipe in the winter time, No you mean

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 7>like out in the out in the playground, or like

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 7>that like that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>No you second list, get back to the commercials. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>give me out of the stuture. By the way, we

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 2>have Carrie Severino coming up after two o'clock, and then

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow allegedly Jackson Trumpy will be here.

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<v Speaker 7>Willie and honor of a cold day here at a

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 7>trice date and rain. We leave you with the immortal

0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:33.320
<v Speaker 7>words of the Stooge report.

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Always could be with you, Bill, See you later, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Dawine on news radio seven hundred w L Bill Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 2>The Great America. One of the great conservative attorneys in

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<v Speaker 2>America is Carrie Severino. Unfortunately she has a law degreeted

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<v Speaker 2>from Harvard, which is was a great universe, Not so

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.080
<v Speaker 2>much anymore. I'm not sure. She also was a law

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 2>clerk to the great Justice Clarence Thomas, and she was

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>instrumental and getting Amy Coney Barrett and Brett cavanall both

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 2>affirmed by the United States Senate. Wrote a book with

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 2>my good friend Molly Hemingway on justice, on trial, the

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Kavanaugh confirmation, and the future of the US Supreme Court,

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and so much more. So once again, Carrie Severina, Welcome

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 2>to the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all, Kerry, tell

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 2>us about this campaign finance case. We then have the

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 2>tariffs case. We then have the Administrative state case, We

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<v Speaker 2>then have the fourteenth Amendent case, so much more. First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, what's before the US Supreme Court and the

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<v Speaker 2>campaign finance matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this has to do with an aspect of campaign

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 4>finance law that says that party committees cannot coordinate certain

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 4>expenditures with a candidate. And what's going on here is

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:57.319
<v Speaker 4>a challenge saying, Okay, years ago, when some of these

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 4>campaign finance laws are put in place, there was a

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of stuff in them that in fact doesn't comport

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<v Speaker 4>with the First Amendment. It's limiting people's First Amendment rights

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 4>to particularly political speech. And the Court piece by piece

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 4>has been kind of addressing this over the last decades.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you look at it in light of today's

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:21.399
<v Speaker 4>understanding of free speech, this doesn't this just limitation doesn't

0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 4>make any sense because the only thing that the Court

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 4>said you can limit political speech for is to avoid bribery,

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 4>quid pro quo corruption with I give your campaign money

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 4>and you do something for me, and that's just simply

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 4>not a threat. When you're talking about coordination with a

0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Republican Senatorial committee, for example, which is are the litigants

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<v Speaker 4>in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>Kerry Severino, Explain to the American people, why why is

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<v Speaker 2>money free speech? Because many people think there's too much money.

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't let everybody talks my viewpoint, but American the

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Democrats want to limit it, and the Republicans certainly want

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to have unlimited Why why is money equal to free speech?

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<v Speaker 2>Explain that to the American people.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, in today's world, we're not campaigning by standing

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 4>on a soapbox somewhere. And even if you were, someone's

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 4>got to pay for that soatbox. You know, in order

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.799
<v Speaker 4>to be able to broadcast your message, you need to

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 4>be able to pay for ads, to pay to get

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 4>to different places in the country to give those speeches.

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<v Speaker 4>And for someone it's not just the speech of the candidate,

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:28.439
<v Speaker 4>it is the speech of the person. If I want

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 4>to support that can and speak in favor of that candidate,

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 4>do I have to run my own ads? No, I'd

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 4>like to donate to someone who can help run those ads,

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 4>and that's that is my speech as a donor as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I agree it can be really frustrating the

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 4>amount of money and politics how expensive that is. However,

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<v Speaker 4>if we're going to have a republican democratic, democratic republic

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 4>where we can communicate and have the American people weighing

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 4>in on these things, they do need some way of

0:57:56.480 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 4>getting that information, and unfortunately that's going to cost some money.

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 4>And the bottom line is, even if it were if

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 4>we think it's better to not have that kind of speech,

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 4>well great, you just have to go back and amend

0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 4>the Constitution to do that. And if we could get

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 4>a coalition across people to say, hey, we're going to

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 4>limit it, fine, we can do that. But as it

0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 4>stands right now, the First Amendment does protect speech. We

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 4>know the framers, particularly of all types of speech. They

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 4>wanted to make sure we protected political speech, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's why I expect the court to be

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:27.680
<v Speaker 4>very protective of that in this NRSC case.

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<v Speaker 2>Kerrie Sevareen, I want to pick your mind on this

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth Amendment issue. When it was passed in the eighteen

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 2>late eighteenth maybe it was eighteen sixty eight after the

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Civil War, everyone intended it to include the slaves that

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the Democrats held in bond each for like one hundred

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:44.919
<v Speaker 2>and two hundred years, and the Republicans fought to free.

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:47.200
<v Speaker 2>That's a different issue. And all of a sudden, the

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth a membo of the past one hundred and sixty years,

0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 2>has morphed into something different that if you're born in

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:55.600
<v Speaker 2>this country, you're automatically a citizen. Where do you stand

0:58:55.640 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 2>on the fourteenth Amendment? Automatic automatic citizenship for those born

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 2>here even though their parents are here illegally.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think this is something where originalism means it's

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 4>a tougher question. Then again, just what do we think

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:12.000
<v Speaker 4>is a good system today?

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Boy?

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Our immigration system looks a whole lot different, doesn't it

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 4>than it did in eighteen sixty five? You know, our

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 4>social services look a lot different. It used to be.

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 4>You came here, First of all, you'd have to show

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 4>that you actually could support yourself, and second of all,

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 4>if you couldn't, you're not going to have the type

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 4>of incredibly involved social services where you're going to get

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 4>the education and the food and the everything else. So

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 4>it's a different cost benefit analysis so definitely things have changed.

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.479
<v Speaker 4>The question is what did the Constitution mean? And that's

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 4>really a question for historians. So that's where I think

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 4>the briefing in this case is going to be important,

0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 4>because we can debate all day long what is the

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 4>best system, But again, sometimes that might mean going back

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 4>and saying, Okay, we need to amend this to clarify it. Well,

0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:59.480
<v Speaker 4>as you said, the one thing we know for sure

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 4>it was supposed to cover was the freed slaves, Absolutely right,

1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 4>But I think there's wrinkles about Okay, you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>also know it's not supposed to cover say, an invading

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<v Speaker 4>army or children of people who are here in a

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<v Speaker 4>diplomatic mission or something. But there's a lot of gray

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<v Speaker 4>area in between that we've historically been allowing the birth

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<v Speaker 4>right citizenship we have now, but that isn't spoken to

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<v Speaker 4>directly by the words, and so I think that's where

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to have to look and see as the

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<v Speaker 4>court drills down and says historically what was really understood

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<v Speaker 4>in eighteen sixty five by that language.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it fair to say that those who drafted the

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth Amendment did not take into account fifteen or twenty

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<v Speaker 2>million illegals, many having children inside that they did not

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<v Speaker 2>think about that when they drafted the fourteenth Amendment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to imagine how they could have right a

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<v Speaker 4>very different situation. That's one of the challenges with interpreting

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<v Speaker 4>our constitution is going, Okay, you know, they could just

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<v Speaker 4>like search and seizure. They couldn't have imagined cell phones

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<v Speaker 4>and what do we do with cell phone records? So

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<v Speaker 4>the court is tasked with trying to interpret this language

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<v Speaker 4>in light of some of these the changed realities of

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<v Speaker 4>the chaise's world.

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<v Speaker 2>So if the court that you've studied your entire life

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<v Speaker 2>says it's up to the electoral process, the fourteenth Amendment

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<v Speaker 2>could be amended because it takes two thirds of the House,

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<v Speaker 2>two thirds of the Senate, three fourths of the states,

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats would never support that. Therefore, the fourteenth Amendment

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<v Speaker 2>will not be amended. Therefore the status quo will be maintained.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, assuming that that was true, But I have to say,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we've seen a shift on this over the

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<v Speaker 4>last few years because people had become so concerned on

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<v Speaker 4>both parties of the number of people streaming across the border.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't think we can guarantee that that lineup

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<v Speaker 4>is you know, forever. There's no way this ever gets changed,

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<v Speaker 4>I really think. But again, we also don't even know

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<v Speaker 4>the ultimate answer on the historical question yet, so that

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<v Speaker 4>might be putting the cart before the horse.

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie Severino, the Judicial Crisis Network. Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>administrative state that Democrats love, the administrative state, unelected bureaucrats.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess the argument is, we have an elected president,

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<v Speaker 2>we have an unelected bureaucratic state making decisions that may

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<v Speaker 2>be against what the American people want. So on one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the growth of the administrative state, especially the

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<v Speaker 2>last fifteen or twenty years, that has taken over the

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<v Speaker 2>rule of law in this country, all unelected. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, we elected a president, Donald Trump. Does Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump have the power to discharge someone in the administrative

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<v Speaker 2>state or it could be someone really important, like setting

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<v Speaker 2>interest rates without cause simply because she's unelected. So should

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<v Speaker 2>an unelected bureaucrat trump an elected president.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when you put it that way, right, it sounds

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<v Speaker 4>pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously we have no question about when a new president

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<v Speaker 4>comes in, does he get to change out the Secretary

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<v Speaker 4>of State? Of course, does he get to change out

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<v Speaker 4>the secretary, of course, so we understand that personnelis policy.

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<v Speaker 4>If you can't change the heads of these major agencies,

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<v Speaker 4>then how are you going to have the policy that

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<v Speaker 4>the American people just elected in a new president come

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<v Speaker 4>into effect. The problem is we've created over the last

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<v Speaker 4>ninety years, at least since this case that was being

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<v Speaker 4>reconsidered now a state, there were people call these agencies independent,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of frightening.

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<v Speaker 4>Independent of who, independent of the president and the legislature

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<v Speaker 4>and the judiciary, you have a free floating, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>horde of a thousands of people working for something that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't really fit comfortably in our constitutional system. This is

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<v Speaker 4>not the three structures of the triparte governments that we

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<v Speaker 4>all learned about in civics class or in schoolhouse rock.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think this is a great step that the

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<v Speaker 4>Court is coming back and looking at this. It's actually

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<v Speaker 4>something they've been looking at and questioning the wisdom of

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<v Speaker 4>for the last you know, several years, because we started

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<v Speaker 4>to recognize how important those structural limits are and how

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<v Speaker 4>far our current system has strayed. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a lot of talk during arguments about just

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<v Speaker 4>the sort of more I think they aren't you going

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<v Speaker 4>to just totally upend the structure of government. And the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom line is, if our structure of government is that

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<v Speaker 4>far outside the constitution, then heck, yeah, we're we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to upend all of that unconstitutional stuff. Take out those

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<v Speaker 4>weeds so we can get back to what the constitution

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<v Speaker 4>actually said. And if you're saying that's a night and

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<v Speaker 4>day difference between the government we have now in the

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<v Speaker 4>constitutional system, then that's all the more reason we need

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<v Speaker 4>to get to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Kerrie Savarino. It's called the fourth branch of government, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the administrative state, the irs, etc.

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<v Speaker 6>The Federal Reserve, all that stuff. There's tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 6>that have can only be fired with cause, and that

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<v Speaker 6>is something put in by the Congress so Congress can

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<v Speaker 6>control the president. In this case the Federal Reserve, the

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<v Speaker 6>president got sideways. One of the governors goes of our

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<v Speaker 6>mortgage rate. I guess misrepresentations, and the president says, I

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<v Speaker 6>want her to go, but her term wasn't up. Congress

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<v Speaker 6>said it, well, it must be for cause. So I

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<v Speaker 6>guess the issue is if the administrative state is the

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<v Speaker 6>fourth branch of government, where does that exist in the constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, the fourth branch is clearly not in the constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the Federal Reserve is going to be another sticky issue.

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<v Speaker 4>The case we just heard argued was about the Federal

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<v Speaker 4>Trade Commission, and I think that one is clearly going

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<v Speaker 4>They're clearly going to say, hey, the president, if it's

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<v Speaker 4>not there's no such thing as an agency that's existing

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<v Speaker 4>in limbo here. If this is an executive agency, the

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<v Speaker 4>head of the executive branch, that is, the president, has

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<v Speaker 4>to have control over it. I do think from the

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<v Speaker 4>way oral arguments went that there's been some suggestion, including

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<v Speaker 4>on behalf of the president's lawyer, saying, Okay, the Federal

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<v Speaker 4>Reserve is a little bit different, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>argue that case. And I think that probably is going

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<v Speaker 4>to come down more to whether this is really for

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<v Speaker 4>cause or not, and if it's not for cause, they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to open up a whole new can of worms.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the Federal Reserve is going to be it still

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<v Speaker 4>might end up that the president has controlled of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where the court land on it, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be a slightly different question than the

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<v Speaker 4>all of the other independent agencies because it's just a

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<v Speaker 4>different beast.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't cause a subjective term. One person's cause is another

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<v Speaker 2>person's irrelevancy. Really, if I think the female governor one

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<v Speaker 2>of the Federal Reserve was a more conservative person, the

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<v Speaker 2>president would say that there's no cause. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to get rid of somebody, there is cause.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to find something. And so the arc form

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<v Speaker 2>is for cause. Who determines what is cause?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's where the court has to come back. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you said for cause because she's wearing white shoes

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<v Speaker 4>after Labor Day and I can't abide by that, you

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<v Speaker 4>know the courts are going to say, Okay, no, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not sufficient. So there's a whole body of case law

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<v Speaker 4>and what kinds of things you can include is for cause?

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<v Speaker 4>Otherwise you're right, it would just be a blank check

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<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't really mean anything. So so I think

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<v Speaker 4>the question is going to be whether when you have

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<v Speaker 4>someone who's in a position of financial trust, like being

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<v Speaker 4>on the Federal Reserve, that that type of more misstatements

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<v Speaker 4>in her mortgage applications is going to qualify that's sufficiently

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<v Speaker 4>similar to the kind of work she's doing at the

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<v Speaker 4>fed that this would qualify his cause. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that those arguments are going to be held in January.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to find out where the court stands.

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<v Speaker 2>On that, all right, Kerrie. Lastly, Carrie Severine, I love

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<v Speaker 2>picking your mind tariff's legality or not. The President has

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<v Speaker 2>hanged his hat on the issue of tariffs. They're quick,

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<v Speaker 2>they're effective, It's raised hundreds of billions of dollars. Supposedly,

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<v Speaker 2>it may impact inflation down the road at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Presidents said a day or two ago that Europe's going

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<v Speaker 2>to impost tariffs on China. China is going to impost

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs on Europe if I have to wait for the

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<v Speaker 2>Congress to enact something that's going to be impossible as

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<v Speaker 2>a consequence. Give me your crystal ball, Carrie Severino. On

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs legal or not under the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the way that those arguments went, I suspect

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<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court is going to say that the President

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<v Speaker 4>is taking this tariff power too far because and what

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<v Speaker 4>they're concerned about is not just what's happening today and

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<v Speaker 4>what President Trump's doing, but if you let declaring an

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<v Speaker 4>emergency be considered incredibly broadly, the next Democrat president can say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a climate crisis, and that's an emergency, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to put one thousand percent taxes on everything made

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<v Speaker 4>with petroleum products. You can't have language that is so

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<v Speaker 4>broad that it becomes meaningless. And so I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court struggling with how do we make sure this

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<v Speaker 4>language isn't a complete blank check of a meaningless term

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<v Speaker 4>that any president can just do whatever they want with

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<v Speaker 4>the tariff power. That makes me think they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>probably want to limit this. That means limiting it for

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump, but that also is going to mean limiting

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<v Speaker 4>it for future Democratic presidents as well. Honestly, well, we

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<v Speaker 4>only find out when they come out with the argument.

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<v Speaker 2>About a minute remaining that trump'ster claims is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a financial crisis if he doesn't have the ability.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, the Costco and others are suing the president

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<v Speaker 2>for billions of dollars they get the money back, And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the questions of one of the justices was, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens if we go with your viewpoint and the

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<v Speaker 2>president considers what if we say a tariff is like

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<v Speaker 2>a tax, and the tax is only raised or lowered

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<v Speaker 2>by the Congress, what if there's economic crisis causing a

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<v Speaker 2>great depression to the Supreme Court justices, you know so well,

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<v Speaker 2>would they react to the practicalities of a crisis that

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<v Speaker 2>their order would create.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the challenge is at this point you've got

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<v Speaker 4>both sides saying there's going to be a crisis. If

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<v Speaker 4>we did have a depression level event, then I think

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<v Speaker 4>your president would have a much easier time saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a clear emergency, and you might you might

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<v Speaker 4>have a Supreme Court that is more sympathetic. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think at this point it's challenging because both sides are

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<v Speaker 4>going to say are telling you the sky's falling, and

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<v Speaker 4>they can't both be right. So the Supreme Court's job,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not really economists at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>to determine who's who's predictions about the markets are correct.

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<v Speaker 4>They're having to look at what are the legal terms here,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, sometimes that might mean that the guy

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<v Speaker 4>who is making all the correct economic predictions doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>the legal grounds. Nonetheless, one of our problems in our

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<v Speaker 4>country right now is Congress is not doing what it

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<v Speaker 4>should be in many cases in terms of passing bills.

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<v Speaker 4>You've gotten some good ones passed recently, but for the

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<v Speaker 4>buy and large, we need them to be actually taking

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<v Speaker 4>the reins and doing the legislating and rather than just

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<v Speaker 4>leaving it to presidents. So they need to actually be working.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out to your crystal ball, Carrie Severino. You know

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<v Speaker 2>Clarence Thomas quite well. He wrote a great book a

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<v Speaker 2>few years back. It's one of my great guests. Love.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the life and Times of Clarence Thomas. How

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<v Speaker 2>cognizant is he of the biological clock? Father time is undefeated, untied,

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<v Speaker 2>unscored on and come next summer will there be pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on him to step down so this president can appoint

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<v Speaker 2>someone with the same philosophy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, people are always asking these questions, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think people make a very different analysis for their own

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<v Speaker 4>selves than they do if you're just looking at the strategy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that that's the fundamental thing. And you

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<v Speaker 4>even heard President Trump recently just say, you know, these

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<v Speaker 4>are great justices, and honestly they're both kind of living

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<v Speaker 4>their best lives. Justice Thomas and Justice Alito, who's the

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<v Speaker 4>other one that gets talked about a lot. I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>heard him say anything about plans to retire, But you

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<v Speaker 4>know your guess is as good as mine. Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I hope he serves along, Hope he never dies.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope he's like Methuselah. Hope he lives nine hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unlikely, but we need to keep the court in

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<v Speaker 2>our hands because God knows at times that people get

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong all the time, and the Court's there is

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<v Speaker 2>a stallwarts for individual freedom and rights. So in the

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<v Speaker 2>campaign finance, you think you're in good shape. Tariff's lawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>legality not so good to shape, Administrative state good shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteenth Amendment not so good a shape. Do I have

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<v Speaker 2>that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I feel the last one's a little hard to

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<v Speaker 4>predict until I hear the arguments on the fourteenth Amendment.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know where we're going, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>your other estimates. That's that's the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>Line, all right, Carrie Savarina, you're the best of this.

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<v Speaker 2>May God bless you and God bless America. Carrie, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much, God bless you all. Let's continue with

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<v Speaker 2>more news coming up your home of the Reds and

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals News Radio seven hundred w l W. Obviously this

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<v Speaker 2>one hurts, but no, we'll come back stronger.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Yet I'm broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I rock. I'm glad you're here to defend Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame because the ads are going after yesterday. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>after Notre Dame. Because you think you are. If you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're so big, join a conference like the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Play some real football games, not against Stanford, not against

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of sisters of the poor.

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<v Speaker 5>Play.

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<v Speaker 8>We basically play an a that's well, that's not very good.

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<v Speaker 2>They could be year to year. Usually they're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you play you play like, uh, North Carolina State.

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<v Speaker 2>You might play a Stanford. No, you don't play well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no US school teams that Notreame places. You got

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<v Speaker 2>a big wake Forest game coming up Wake Forest. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're in the ACC so they know you

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<v Speaker 2>play around. I'd say, joined the Big Ten? Who do

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<v Speaker 2>you think you are? Yeah, the other edias are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>once again, who do you think you are?

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<v Speaker 8>Notre Dame doesn't feel like splitting the money. Remember last

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<v Speaker 8>year they go, they go the National Championship Game. How

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<v Speaker 8>many other schools within their conference data to split the

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<v Speaker 8>money with zero? That's all exactly, And the NBC deal

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<v Speaker 8>that pays them as much as any conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Catholics care about money, gambling and beer, Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty important stuff. Yes, So the Notre Dame would have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten five million dollars. Now they get nothing, and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>love it. Yeah, yeah, five million dollars. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>got a nineteen billion dollar endowment. How much nineteen billion?

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<v Speaker 2>So say, okay, say it was three going to a

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<v Speaker 2>three million to play in that ball.

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<v Speaker 8>It's gonna cost a million to you know, for travel

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<v Speaker 8>and odd stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does you see do against the base. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be noted.

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<v Speaker 8>Everyone's like, oh, we get the last chance. The fans

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<v Speaker 8>will see that the twenty twenty five fighting Iris. No,

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<v Speaker 8>it'll be there'll be twelve guys that you know that

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<v Speaker 8>are going to declare for the drafts. Remember a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of years ago in Florida State, they finished thirteen to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and then they were angry. They didn't get to go.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, so a lot of them opted out and they

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<v Speaker 8>got absolutely destroyed by Georgia and that kind of set

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<v Speaker 8>off a chain reaction of let's call it mediocrity ball games.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, ball games are.

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<v Speaker 8>Done, you can tractually obligated to say that the Bulls

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<v Speaker 8>are a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, they're wonderful. The Toilet Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, the

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl Ring, I don't know, Liberty Bowl, I'm taking Navy,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it. I mean those are all kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like side show things.

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<v Speaker 8>Bulls originated back when college football was more regional and

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<v Speaker 8>you weren't traveling over place.

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<v Speaker 2>Say let's let's meet up here and let's play in a.

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<v Speaker 8>Bowl game in Southern it'd be great and fans to

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<v Speaker 8>finally get to get a chance to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just a different world. Now, say give me

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<v Speaker 2>in a stuite report because we have to get back

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<v Speaker 2>to the commercials as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 7>Will he the stood reporters of Proud Service, every local

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<v Speaker 7>teme Star heating in air conditioning dealers, Thamestar, kwala, you

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<v Speaker 7>could feel in Cincinnati, colwayomagair at one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 7>nine ninety six h v A c Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>That I played BYU would have been the Mormons versus

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<v Speaker 2>the Catholics, and Joe Frederick would have made a boatload

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<v Speaker 2>of money.

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<v Speaker 8>Speaking of I'm glad you mentioned that Mormon. How did

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<v Speaker 8>how did BYU join the Big twelve? How'd that work

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<v Speaker 8>out for him?

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<v Speaker 2>They did? They all of a sudden, go to the stratosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't like the Mormons anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>They like the Cat I'm saying, everyone's saying, notre dames,

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<v Speaker 8>you'd join the conference by conference?

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<v Speaker 2>Are are they in the college football playoff? Does that

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<v Speaker 2>work out so well for him? Who is b Yu play?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know they play. They play in the Big twelves.

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<v Speaker 8>They played Big twelve teams. They played Texas Tech, they

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<v Speaker 8>played play in the bowl game. They go into a

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<v Speaker 8>bowl game.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure, they played Texas Tech and a championship. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where they go for the.

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<v Speaker 8>You know they play Iowa State and Kansas State, and

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<v Speaker 8>you know it's big twelve teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Baylor, I mean a Mormon's big hitters or Mormons like Violet.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Mormons. I watched that show. Bearcat fans

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<v Speaker 2>don't like them.

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<v Speaker 8>I love more American Primeval and the Mormons were some

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<v Speaker 8>bad dudes, and bring him young back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring the pop Tart Bowl? What is that the pop

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<v Speaker 2>Tart bull? The giant pop Tarts are walking around the

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<v Speaker 2>play Are they're going to say all that?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, they're gonna play, but the question is how many

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<v Speaker 8>of their players are going to play in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know there's top guys are Mormons? I love Mormons?

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<v Speaker 2>Please continue? Well, Bengals up.

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<v Speaker 7>They brought to you by uh, let's see, somebody sure

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<v Speaker 7>I about the liquor?

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<v Speaker 2>Place to find the paper? Tequila makes her clothes fall off.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a country brought to you by good spirits, wanted

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<v Speaker 7>tobacco and party town.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 7>The Bengals have assigned wide receiver Xavier Johnson to the

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<v Speaker 7>practice squad, first year player out of Ohio state since

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<v Speaker 7>any native attended Summit Country Day. Chamar Stewart is back

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<v Speaker 7>at practice.

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<v Speaker 2>About that Rock.

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<v Speaker 7>Shamar has since mid November with a knee injury t

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<v Speaker 7>Haagen knee limited.

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<v Speaker 8>Need him to work the workout, need him to have

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<v Speaker 8>a last four games?

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<v Speaker 2>Here? Just kids, Jamar Stewart, Are you kidding me? So

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<v Speaker 2>we need He's got bertanidis, bert and iis bertanitis. Red's update.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the latest on the winter meetings tonight?

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<v Speaker 7>Well he stove league at six oh five here on

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<v Speaker 7>seven hundred WLW do.

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<v Speaker 2>You defend the Reds at all Rock? They offered five years,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million year and our twenty five. They offered twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five million dollars less than the Phillies twenty five million.

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<v Speaker 8>Less in baseball terms these days. Is that a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of money, a little bit of money or average money.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a lot of money to me and you, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Not much money. Bas seg. I love you dearly, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're not as serious.

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<v Speaker 8>It's tough because I'm sure they sit in meetings and

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<v Speaker 8>go how can we drive tickets sales?

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<v Speaker 2>He was promotion. It's easy. People would show up to

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<v Speaker 2>watch it. How about the polar bear segment? Please continue?

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<v Speaker 7>Pete Alonzo Willie, speaking of the polar Berry leaves the

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<v Speaker 7>Mets five year, one hundred and fifty five million dollar

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<v Speaker 7>deal to join the Baltimore Orioles.

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<v Speaker 2>Seg your rock, your reaction to that one?

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<v Speaker 4>No comment?

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<v Speaker 2>Please continue? He's making more than Swarmer.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's see, it's sixty days until the Super Bowl. Rock

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<v Speaker 7>is right around the corner, a hundred six days to

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<v Speaker 7>opening day. And happy birthday the number nine, Bill Plumber

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Burrow, Please continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy birthday, he probably got a birthday. He's twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting old. He's getting old. Does Philip Philip Rivers

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<v Speaker 2>have a chance. He's a grandfather. He's forty four. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a grandfatherland. I mean, I'm interested in you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco. But Flacker has

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<v Speaker 2>been playing. He hasn't played for five years. It's true,

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<v Speaker 2>five years. It's a disaster in that five years a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. It's a long time.

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<v Speaker 7>The culture of the talk of the NFL until like

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<v Speaker 7>a few weeks ago, they've they've followed on hard times.

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy injuries, injuries, injuries. Berton Itis is when you were

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<v Speaker 2>a high draft pick for the l s U and

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<v Speaker 2>then you come here and we don't know why, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. What is the problem with Burton? Why can't

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<v Speaker 2>he function as a wide receiver? He's unclaimed by nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if you were released by here and care is

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<v Speaker 2>he an essay?

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't pick you up? How would you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 8>I talked about this with Tom Brennaman this morning. I've

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<v Speaker 8>seen it a million times. You get guys that show

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<v Speaker 8>you that want to play in the league. In their

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<v Speaker 8>whole life, they've been the fastest, the biggest, the best,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know they haven't had to put in as

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<v Speaker 8>much work. And the guys that make it in the

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<v Speaker 8>league are the ones that want to study the game,

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<v Speaker 8>actually love the game and not what the game brings them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sure ever really grind it out, learning

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<v Speaker 2>the playbook and learn the grind it out. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to grind wide receiver, got to grind it like ozempic.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta grind, You gotta grind, you gotta grind, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>grind segment.

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<v Speaker 8>It's crazy because you know, someone like him, with with

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<v Speaker 8>the talent that a lot of other people would die

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<v Speaker 8>to have, they just can't make it because they're not

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<v Speaker 8>as physically talent, but have the will, have the they wanted,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the desire to study. And he didn't know

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<v Speaker 8>what where to be called a slap in the face

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<v Speaker 8>of those guys. He's got this golden opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of yeah, oh well, I guess sixty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a week to him is no big deal. He's

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<v Speaker 2>about to find out reality.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm interested in this heck to see if anybody picks

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<v Speaker 8>him up, is then they pick a flyer up on

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<v Speaker 8>that he said unclaimed and one went through. So but

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<v Speaker 8>Jermaine Germaine, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe'll go to the UFL.

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<v Speaker 8>But he was I mean, he was a red flag

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<v Speaker 8>before the draft, and I know the Bengals felt they

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<v Speaker 8>stole a guy that had kind of first round talent

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<v Speaker 8>get him in the third.

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<v Speaker 2>Over all, right, And and I said, what you want

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<v Speaker 2>about Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he does a good job of, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>building culture and and doing all that.

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<v Speaker 2>And even he couldn't get him to Jamar Chase tried

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<v Speaker 2>like crazy because you know they're built the same they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's the same building, everything, same talent. One

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<v Speaker 2>is all time great. The other guy can't get on

1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the field. It's all about what's between.

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<v Speaker 8>Wolves, football and the other loves of segment is not

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<v Speaker 8>as easy as I make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look. I know where you're coming from. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not a serious person. Okay, thank him? All right, Rock?

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<v Speaker 2>What's on the big show today? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea. Well, do you have your right?

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<v Speaker 8>I get we got Dan Monk Kroger is telling folks

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<v Speaker 8>after first of the year, everybody's got to come back,

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<v Speaker 8>no more remote work back in the building. I would

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<v Speaker 8>hope that would have happened before this. Rodney McMullin would

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<v Speaker 8>have had him back quicker. Yeah, ending their work remote

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<v Speaker 8>work arrangements in January, and I guess they got a

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<v Speaker 8>new uh Kruger is a new delivery strategy involving.

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<v Speaker 2>I always buy from I love Kroger. I buy from

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<v Speaker 2>West Barney.

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<v Speaker 8>And then see at four o'clock we have our Glenn Clark,

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<v Speaker 8>who's our Ravens guys, the Glen Clark radio show, talk

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<v Speaker 8>about the big game this weekend, and then you're joining

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<v Speaker 8>us at five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Got cold as the well Diggers behind today. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be cold on Sunday. But they just beat the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the same playbook out, repeat the same and then

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<v Speaker 2>do it again. Beat them and if the Steelers lose

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<v Speaker 2>to the Dolphins, then have a two ties in the

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<v Speaker 2>last three games and the Bengals sweep out, they get

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<v Speaker 2>to the playoffs. Very simple, it's very simple segment. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the commercials. Give me out of the

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<v Speaker 2>student's report.

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<v Speaker 7>Will he and honor of a cold and rainy day

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<v Speaker 7>here in the tri State. We leave you with the

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<v Speaker 7>immortal words of the stood report.

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<v Speaker 2>Kid, don't get too high when it's great, it don't

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<v Speaker 2>get too low when it's back. Am I miss that guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, cowboy? I miss him and Tommy back at

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<v Speaker 2>it Rock. Good luck to you, thank you. Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>is too big for your breitches on seven hundred Ald