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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday afternoon in the Tri State. Nasty weather coming.

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are in the playoffs. That's the only hope

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Speaker 2: you and on Allen this and so many other topics

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Speaker 2: is Liz Bonus, the medical health reporter of WKRC Channel twelve.

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Speaker 2: We twelve stands for news. Liz Bonus, Welcome again to

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Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show. How do you like my analysis

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Speaker 2: and the bengals chances in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I believe in miracles to.

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Speaker 2: You, Yes, I do believe in miracles. If that happens.

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Speaker 2: That would be a miracle, but they have less than

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Speaker 2: a one percent chance. It's zero point zero two, so

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Speaker 2: it's possible. But what's the other night I'm watching you?

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Speaker 2: Of course I watch you as much as I can,

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Speaker 2: and you're doing this topic very close to Tony Bender's prostate,

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Speaker 2: and that is that there's something going on in prostate

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Speaker 2: health with AI. And this is for men, not women

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Speaker 2: or women who identify as men. I guess they have

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Speaker 2: prostates and as a consequence that the treatment for prostate

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Speaker 2: enlargement and prostate cancer is changing fundamentally. Explain that to

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Speaker 2: the American people. Everyone that's got a prostate, you better listen.

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Speaker 3: You know, there are some thought that fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: But you guys are really shy about talking about this

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Speaker 3: stuff that impacts everything from sexual function to a whole

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Speaker 3: going on. Two different things you mentioned there. One is

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Speaker 3: benign prostate hyperplasia, which is it gets too.

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Speaker 3: The other is prostate cancer and the biggest breakthrough that

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Speaker 3: we've seen is that artificial intelligence now can customize your

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Speaker 3: in prostate cancer. It's now being used in the Tristate.

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Speaker 3: Our friends at the Urology Group some of the first

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Speaker 3: stir off some of those results like you're getting zapped

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Speaker 3: and they want to zap you precisely. Well, Now with AI,

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Speaker 3: and I got to watch It's really cool. I got

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Speaker 3: to watch them like inject these beads. I know you

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Speaker 2: he's now afraid he can sleep all night, which is important. Now. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about ozempic. So many men and women are

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Speaker 2: about ozempik. Explain in general ozempik off someone's overweight, what happens.

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Speaker 2: Then ozempik for sex, which is Tony Bender's interest. Explain

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Speaker 3: Well, I won't say that we are using ozembic for sex.

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Speaker 3: we call ozembic penis and ozembic baton, and that might

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Speaker 3: or zep bound semaglue tide is what they're called by generics.

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Speaker 3: These are drugs that you inject into the abdomen, and

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Speaker 3: And that's a different concept than the pill helps me

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Speaker 4: Trust me, not everybody loses weight.

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Speaker 5: But you're right.

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Speaker 3: They were developed originally to bring your blood sugars down.

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Speaker 3: We've now found they help bring weight down, help bring

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Speaker 4: How do you like that.

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Speaker 2: In your belly keep you from wanting to enjoy sex?

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Speaker 2: I think a little worms a little bit. You know.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, And that's sort of what they are.

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Speaker 3: There's a very we're you know, we're fearfully and wonderfully made.

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Speaker 3: There's a delicate balance in our gut, and when you

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Speaker 3: But also you can address some of that. Now, there's

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, that you don't want. So women might have

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Speaker 3: One of my girlfriends said, when you lose weight, you

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go let's talk about let's talk let's talk

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Speaker 2: about ozepig long term. Some have said to me, look

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Speaker 2: know ozempic are these other exotic drugs are not having

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Speaker 3: Well, they've actually been in development for that long, believe

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Speaker 3: think about it, just delaying gas or emptying isn't going

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Speaker 3: sure what happens when you do leave stuff in the gut,

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Speaker 3: like could we later see higher risks of other things? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Probably absolutely. If twelve percent of I'm not on it yet,

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Speaker 2: I'll take Ozembic has this side effect of helping Miss

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Speaker 2: controversial Gaza humanitarian foundation which supplied the money. Now it's

435
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Speaker 2: obvious that we've documented the waste and deliberate disposal of

436
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Speaker 2: tons of baby formula for Palestinian babies, nutritional children shaken,

437
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: more children's powdered milk which Hamas hoarded away. Given the

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Speaker 2: saturation of the coastal enclay with humanitarian aid and the

439
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: cease fire for months to continue, Hamas hid tons of

440
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: baby formula and destroyed nutritional shakes meant for children inside

441
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: a warehouse to allow gozens to starve and further as

442
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: claims of widespread genocide by the Jews. Hamad Fuad, a

443
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: Islamic activist, I'm sorry Hamas activists accused the terror group

444
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Speaker 2: of hoarding food meant for children in order cause as

445
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: much much death and disease as possible. This isn't the

446
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: first time. This is with the Hamasis withheld aid to

447
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: make a political point. This is a huge international story,

448
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: confirmed by the International Red Cross and by UN humanitarian groups.

449
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: Have you heard about this in the media. This came out.

450
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: By the way, the date was December third, so it's

451
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: been out about a week and ABC, NBCCBS silence. Why

452
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: doesn't fit the media narrative. You have to listen to

453
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: me to get the truth. So Hamas wanted to kill

454
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: as many Palestinian children as possible to put pressure on

455
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: Israel internationally so they would stop what they're doing. Let

456
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: Hamas have more control than Gaza. So the Gozans were

457
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: murdered and killed by Hamas. How big is this story?

458
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: It's bigger than Montana, but it will not be covered

459
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: because it doesn't fit, does it. Secondly, I like to

460
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: highlight good people doing good things in deer Park the

461
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: root of it all. Natasha Cohorst is on city Council

462
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Speaker 2: in deer Park. Natasha Cohorst, and she put together an

463
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Speaker 2: effort to shop with a cop. There's fifty to sixty

464
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: families in deer Park that are going to have special Christmases,

465
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Speaker 2: many businesses in deer Park, many graduates at deer Park

466
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: High School. Good intended individuals put together at several thousands

467
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: of dollars and they've identified through Amity School, the grade school,

468
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: fifty to sixty families that need some help. As you

469
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: know Chris Euster and Deer Park has a closet in

470
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Speaker 2: which Deer Park families put their extra clothing. So if

471
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Speaker 2: someone in the school system needs clothing, a coat, a

472
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: pair of shoes, whatever it is, there's a closet available

473
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 2: you can go into and pick out whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: And now Natasha Cohorst of Deer Park City Council is

475
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Speaker 2: going to make sure these families at risk in deer Park.

476
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: Guess what, have more of a Christmas. The otherwise would

477
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: not have good people doing good things. So congratulations shop

478
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: on the shop with the comp and deer Park. They're

479
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: going to go to Target or they're on Blint Blue

480
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: on Blue Ash Road, and these kids are going to

481
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: have a great Christmas. And thirdly, you talk about the

482
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: billions and billions of dollars stolen just in Minnesota. This

483
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: is how it worked. And by the way, there's been

484
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: zero coverage of this story by ABC, NBC and CBS

485
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: or NPR on the national news. They don't cover it

486
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: because it is so bad. The Somalians figured out with

487
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: the assistance of their governor, Tim Waltz and the attorney

488
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: general of a guy named Allison, and the mayor, a

489
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: guy named Fry, and also the Biden administration to put

490
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 2: together dozens and dozens of medical clinics occupied by so

491
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: called Somali doctors that literally provided thousands and thousands of

492
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Speaker 2: kids in Minneapolis calling I'm autistic. And in consequence there

493
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: was a special government program to assist autistic children with

494
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: teachers and medical care and hunger treatment, et cetera, and

495
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: verbal skills, et cetera. So over the years under the

496
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: Democrats in Minnesota, the number may be as many as

497
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: eight billion US dollars. It could be as little as

498
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: one point five billion. Were these fraudulent clinics in which

499
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: the money flowed from Washington in the Minneapolis into the

500
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Speaker 2: Smalan community. And then there were millions and millions and

501
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: millions of kids that did not receive care in Minneapolis,

502
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: but the monies were kept by the fraudsters, several hundred Somalians,

503
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: some of whom elin Omar. For example, the congressman was

504
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: worth sixty thousand dollars six years ago. She's now worth

505
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars. How do you go into public service

506
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: and you come out worth tens of millions of dollars

507
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: and not be corrupt? It's impossible. And also El Shabab,

508
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: which is a terrorist group in Somealia, was involved in

509
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: the fraud in which there were millions and millions of

510
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: dollars of the billions of dollars wasted of your money

511
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: that went to Al Shabab and Somalia to kill more

512
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: Christians in Somalia, which is a completely dysfunctional government. Now

513
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: this is a huge story, but when called on it,

514
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: Minneapolis and the governor and the mayor and the attorney

515
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: general all say it's racism. To point it out, it's

516
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: all racism. And of course all of their citizenship applications

517
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: were mainline to make it easier to steal more money,

518
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: and you paid for it. And by the way, that

519
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: is one American city, that is one clan in one

520
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: liberal state. Most of the democratic the Blue states will

521
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: not share with the FEDS any SNAP recipient information. So

522
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: you can cross check to see number one of their

523
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: citizens number two. Are there multiple Snap accounts using different

524
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: social gurity numbers but the same person. And now the

525
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: blue cities and Blue states will not give the FEDS

526
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: the information of how big the fraud truly is. Do

527
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: you think we have problems? Absolutely? Oh, let's continue with more.

528
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the commercials. Coming up in about

529
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: ten minutes or so will be Peter Bronson, formerly editorial

530
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: page director of The Inquiries Now is a great author,

531
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Speaker 2: also later on as Carrie Severino about cases before the

532
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: US Supreme Court and more. But I want to congratulate

533
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Natasha Cohorst of Deer Park count That's the way it

534
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: should work. Person of person, people in need. We can

535
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: add that person's in need, let's help that person. Let's

536
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: not have a government agency with billions of dollars part

537
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: of fraud, manipulated by liberal democratic cities to pay themselves

538
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: lots of money and to fund terrorism all over the world.

539
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: Shouldn't this be We're is sixty minutes when you need it.

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00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: Leslie Stall get to Minneapolis the report on this. Do

541
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: you think she will? Hell no, Let's continue you with more.

542
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: Bill Cunning and the great American speaking truth to power

543
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: a news radio seven hundred WLW. My Billy Cunning him

544
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: a great American. Of course. Peter Bronson comes by once

545
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: or twice a year to talk about a recent book

546
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: of his. A new one out is The Magical History Tour, Murder,

547
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: Mystery and Buried History. Showed stories by Peter Bronson with

548
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Speaker 2: the Inquir for many years as a columnists also ran

549
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Speaker 2: that Didn't you run the place for a while? No,

550
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Speaker 2: I did not.

551
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 6: I was editorial page editor, so I ran the opinion section.

552
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 6: I was an associate editor that was the title, and

553
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Speaker 6: then I was a full time columnist after that.

554
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Speaker 2: So when did you begin as with the Inquir? What

555
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: year was that? Ninety two? Editorial page editor? That was?

556
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Speaker 2: That was big?

557
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Speaker 6: Whate what TV, radio and newspapers have gone through. Oh

558
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 6: my gosh, thirty three years. When I got there, bill

559
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 6: the Inquire was three hundred and sixty five thousand. I

560
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Speaker 6: remembered that because it's a thousand every day of the year,

561
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Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty five thousand circulation.

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00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: That thing was big as a yule log. Right when

563
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: it was delivered and we got out. I get up

564
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: in the morning, I walk out the end of my driveway,

565
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 2: pick up the paper and come back. Now. Oh, if

566
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: you set your dog up, the dog.

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Speaker 6: Does sixty five thousand, three hundred and sixty five thousands.

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00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: It's like twenty two thousands. Oh, I don't know. The

569
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: last I heard was around forty thousand. Maybe.

570
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Speaker 6: But if they're counting online in that then that's kind

571
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Speaker 6: of high. So it's just a very sad story about

572
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 6: what happened to newspapers. It was such a fun business

573
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 6: and unfortunately it's kind of a thing in the past,

574
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: like horseshoes.

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Speaker 2: It's ever ever, every and in just the inquir it's

576
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: every it's everywhere, everywhere, every newspaper, yeah, every radio station. Well,

577
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: we used to have one hundred and twenty five employees.

578
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: I think we have now about thirty or forty. And

579
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: local news, local TV news. Everybody's going to streaming.

580
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 6: They want everything tailored to their political opinion and their

581
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 6: point of view, so they get their news from places

582
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 6: like facebooks and Twitter feeds.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: Not good.

585
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: This is not news. These are not professionals. We'll talk

586
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: about magical history tour. But is this good to bad?

587
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: For the for the republic, for the democracy good? Or

588
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: isn't it bad? It's terrible.

589
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 6: It's terrible because we used to have people staffing all

590
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 6: of the local government meetings and they had somebody looking

591
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 6: over their shoulder, so you know, before they did something wrong,

592
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 6: they would look both ways.

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00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: It's a sure enquire here. Yeah, who's listening? Not anymore?

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00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: So what have we seen since then?

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Speaker 6: We see scandal after scandal, corruption, stupidity, no watch dog, No.

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00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: No, we're gonna have a mayor who doesn't pay his

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: car payments. Yeah, yeah, he's kind of you know, right

598
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: now I have to appear of all us having some troubles.

599
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: But it doesn't make any difference. If the election were

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00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: held tomorrow, he would still give eighty two percent of

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Speaker 2: the vote. Absolutely, it's no joke. If they don't pay

602
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: your note, that sounds like an ad.

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00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: And then council members, of course go to prison. Yes,

605
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: that's another issue. And then two or three more they

606
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: got bankruptcy problems, and they got they don't pay their notes,

607
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: and they know there's no In fact, I speak to

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00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: politicians off to Warren County Butler County, and I go

609
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: in and I said, do you have anybody looking over

610
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: your shoulder what you're doing?

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Speaker 6: And the answer is uniformly no. No, there's no coverage

612
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Speaker 6: of what it shows.

613
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: It does.

614
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 6: It shows in what the kind of government we're getting,

615
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 6: which isn't good, not much.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the book before I forget. My friend

617
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Speaker 2: Fritz Horn wants to wish you a happy birthday, which

618
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Speaker 2: is coming up tomorrow. Tomorrow, I turned seventy eight years old.

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Speaker 2: Seventy eight, whoa, I know it. I don't know where

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Speaker 2: the years of six behind you? Six? Well, I always

621
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Speaker 2: said I want to be eighty. I hope to make

622
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Speaker 2: it to eighty. You'll make it. Make it eighty, bear,

623
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Speaker 2: look like you're going to make it. My body, by

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Speaker 2: the way, is sixty one. That Kerry Okus did this

625
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Speaker 2: big thing on me. You did the whole scan, did this?

626
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Speaker 2: Did that?

627
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Speaker 6: He said, I have a body. He said, you're sixty one.

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Speaker 6: I said, well, that's not when my mother told to No,

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Speaker 6: I guess I'm forty forty. All right, let's talk about

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Speaker 6: the book first of all, before we do that, you

631
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Speaker 6: have an ex serb in here yea.

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Speaker 2: And eighteen seventy eight. Yes, Cincinnati was shocked when grave robbers,

633
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: my ancestors took this so of a former president from

634
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: his fresh grave in North ben Yes, detective which almost

635
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: became Cincinnati. North Bend was close two hundred years ago

636
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: to becoming Cincinnati, but did norkhem. Yeah, but detectives found

637
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: the body hanging in a pit at Cincinnati's Ohio Medical

638
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: College eighteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 6: It's quite that story. Oh, it's an amazing story. So

640
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 6: this guy who was taken the night he was buried,

641
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 6: his body was stolen from Congress Green Cemetery, which is

642
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 6: right across the street from the William Henry Harrison Memorial

643
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 6: on Mountain Nebo in North Bend, Okay.

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Speaker 2: His body is hauled out of the grave the very

645
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Speaker 2: night he is buried. Do we know who did it?

646
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Speaker 2: Was it Old County? Was it William Cunningham? Might have

647
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: been your what is that great grande? He was a

648
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: grave robber, he was a resurrectionist.

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Speaker 6: Please continue, Yes, So the mistake they made was usually

650
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Speaker 6: they took their bodies for dissection from the paupers cemetery

651
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 6: or what they called the colored section of the cemeteries.

652
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 6: And in those days that was common because those people

653
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 6: had no influence to object. But this time they took

654
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 6: President's son, William Henry Harrison's son.

655
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: For one reason.

656
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 6: Also, get this, he was also the father of a president,

657
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: his son, his own son, Benjamin Harrison Harrison became president later.

658
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 6: So this guy whose body they took has the unique

659
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 6: He is the single person in US history who was

660
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 6: both the son and a father of a US go

661
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 6: The son I think eighteen forty ninth President William Henry

662
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 6: Harrison died somewhat quickly.

663
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: Yes, he died suddenly in his sleep. And then his son,

664
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: forty years later eighteen eighties, Yes, became a president. So

665
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: this guy was the son and the father of are

666
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: This guy was a notable this guy like a George Bush.

667
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 6: Talk well, he was a well known person and very

668
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 6: beloved in the community. And when they found his grave missing,

669
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 6: of course, that was a huge scandal.

670
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: There's some speculation.

671
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 6: I think there's good reason to believe that the doctors,

672
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 6: the dean who ran the Ohio Medical College specifically asked

673
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 6: for that body because they often put orders in. And

674
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 6: I think, yes, in fact, there was I've learned.

675
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: This he would last meet some Marco say about this.

676
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 6: Here it gets better. I learned from my friend Lieutenant

677
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 6: Steve Kramer at the Cincinnati Police Museum that there was

678
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 6: even a custom called burking, in which people would kill

679
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 6: you for your body and sell it and sell your

680
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 6: clothes and jewelry.

681
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: Burking. Yeah.

682
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 6: So, uh, let's say they see Bill Cunningham walking down

683
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 6: the street and some medical school student says, I want

684
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 6: that one.

685
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: What they knock you over the head and bury.

686
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 6: You strip your body of ball it's clothes, sell your clothes,

687
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 6: sell your jewelry. So anyway, so they chose the wrong

688
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 6: guy here, son of a president, and the family called

689
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 6: in Pinkertons from Chicago who came over to investigate. And

690
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 6: lo and behold, the son of the dead man finds

691
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 6: the body hanging in a pit at the Medical College.

692
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 6: The Medical College of Ohio was indirectly involved in trafficking

693
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: dead bodies directly.

694
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

695
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 6: I didn't want to make directly explain that. You think

696
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 6: we got problems today, wait an otr, we got problems. However,

697
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 6: the Medical College which is now U see the Medical

698
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 6: College of Ohio, would order up dead bodies to be dissected, Yes,

699
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 6: and they paid for them, and they would then bring

700
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 6: them and they'd drop them off. They found this guy

701
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 6: because people reported seeing a wagon pull up at the

702
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 6: Ohio Medical College, as it often did in the wee

703
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 6: hours of the morning, the dark of night, and dropped

704
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 6: off a long sheet wrapped object which looked a lot

705
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 6: like a body.

706
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: How much would they pay for these bodies?

707
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 6: It ranged depending on this the decomposition. If they were fresh,

708
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 6: they might get as much as twenty five dollars ten dollars.

709
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 6: It didn't take much to buy a body in those days.

710
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 6: And in fact, this thing got so out of hand

711
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 6: that there were riots in many cities when people would

712
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 6: find their loved ones on the table being dissected after

713
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: they'd been ripped out of the grave, and they were

714
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 6: burning down medical college.

715
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: This happened.

716
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 6: It was a famous riot in New York City where

717
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 6: a man was walking down the street and the students

718
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 6: were dissecting his recently departed wife in the front window.

719
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: Why what was the reason? There had to be a reason.

720
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: Did they want to find out where the kidney is,

721
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: where's the stomach, where's the heart?

722
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 6: How does the pancreas? Why would yes, all physicians do

723
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 6: this all of the above They needed for the purpose

724
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 6: of learning surgery. They needed to know what they'd find

725
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 6: when they opened up the body, and they needed first

726
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 6: hand experience. So the problem then was that nobody was

727
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 6: donating their bodies for medical science, so they had no

728
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 6: source of bodies. Now, you can make some justification for it,

729
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 6: but the whole thing got completely out of control. Cincinnati

730
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 6: was like the hub of body snatching for the whole Midwest.

731
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 6: They found Cincinnati. Bodies had been shipped all the way

732
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 6: to ann Arbor for the University of Michigan Medical School.

733
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: Now you're worry about my family, I'm reading from the

734
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: inquir Story of the eighteen seventy eight William Cunningham was

735
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: a body snatcher who lived in Cincinnati, Ohio. A professional resurrectionist,

736
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: Cunningham provided corpse for area physicians and medical colleges, popular

737
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: popularly known as Old Cunny. Other names attributed to Cunningham

738
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: include old Man Dead in the Ghoul, that he was

739
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 2: born in Ireland, perhaps in eighteen oh seven, but came here.

740
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: He was a mortician, he was a medical director. He

741
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: was a funeral director, and he'd make money on the

742
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: front end, the middle, in the back. Yes.

743
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 6: And he did it all at Washington Park. Oh yeah,

744
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 6: I can picture that. You can picture William Cemetery there

745
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 6: at one time, and that's where he would he would

746
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 6: pay the family to bury the body. He would then

747
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 6: and the dead of the knight he would pull them

748
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 6: out of the ground. He had a hook system under

749
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 6: the arms. We put the change down and pull him up,

750
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 6: rifle through the pockets, take out some gold teeth, and

751
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 6: then put the body next to him as he went

752
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 6: up and down Vine Street, saying to the corpse who

753
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 6: was dangling, say something funny, say something funny. And it

754
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 6: was so dark there were no lights out, just a

755
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 6: little handle light that And that's how my family got started,

756
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 6: My body snatcher, My my family roots go deep. I

757
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 6: guess six feet team now now to be consider this.

758
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: Just look up, William Cunningham. This could be your next book.

759
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: It might be, it might be another story. I was

760
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: talk about my friend and yours, Stan Chesley, and that's

761
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: in the book which is Magical History, Tour, Murder, Mystery

762
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: and Buried History. Explain about Fenn Fenn. I had on

763
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: Liz Bonus talking about the Fenn Fenn about an hour

764
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: or so ago. But explain about Stan Chesley recently departed.

765
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 2: Well rest in peace, Stan.

766
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 6: But this was the downfall of a not only locally

767
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 6: but nationally and world famous litigator.

768
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: He was the master of disaster.

769
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 6: He was involved in all these huge cases, you know them,

770
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 6: the implant cases, the Hills now Beverly Hills, got to

771
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 6: start at Beverly Hills, Vegas. And this time I guess

772
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 6: most people would say, as you might, that he reached

773
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 6: a little two far and he was involved in one

774
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 6: of the most scandalous cases. In fact, at one point,

775
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 6: the federal judge during this trial said, I would like

776
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 6: to put all of the lawyers in jail. Really yeah,

777
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 6: with that Bamberger he was involved with. Bamberger explained, Bamberger

778
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 6: was the He was a bad He was a bad guy,

779
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 6: wasn't he. Bamberger was the bad guy. He was the

780
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: one who was The Wall Street journalmen they wrote an

781
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 6: editorial about this. They said, this whole case shocks the

782
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 6: conscience that there could be such unbelievably brazen bribery and

783
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: corruption in this case. But what you had here, Bill,

784
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 6: you know from the litigation's history that you had this

785
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 6: jackpot of these settlements where these drug companies, this drug company,

786
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 6: American Home Products had basically agreed to pay out unbelievable

787
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 6: amounts without any verification that these victims were actual victims

788
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 6: of the diet drug. So that the basically it's like

789
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 6: throwing chum in the water, and the litigation sharks came circling.

790
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 6: And that's when the big white, great white sharks came,

791
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 6: and that would be Chesley, and they brought in Bamberger,

792
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 6: who was judge. Yes, and he took twenty I think

793
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 6: it was fifty thousand dollars for.

794
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Basically fixing the case. Let's go back in time just

795
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: a little bit. Fenn. Fenn was a diet drug, yes,

796
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: but it was thought to be the magic elixir, much

797
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: like current ozempig. Yes, but ozempig appears to be a

798
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: better drug than what fenfenn. We don't know. We'll know

799
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: in ten years. Yeah, we'll no find it, just like

800
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: we did with Everybody thought it was fantastics way, but

801
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: it affected a heart valve or something. It did. It

802
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: caused all kinds of problems.

803
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 6: It also reduced the body's ability to even create serotonin,

804
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 6: which is what keeps you happy. So people who had

805
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 6: bet on this for a while lost the ability to

806
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 6: find joy in their lives. They it wasn't something the

807
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 6: body could repair. It was permanent damage, plus cardiopulmonary disease

808
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 6: and all kinds of side effects. Now were they somewhat exaggerated?

809
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, mandously exaggerated by the litigators, But nonetheless there

810
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 6: are many, many cases of women, mainly women, who took

811
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 6: this drug and suffered for it.

812
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 2: So the drug there were three lawyers, I forget their names.

813
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: One was a guy named Cunningham, not me. Yes, and

814
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: the three of them crowd all the cases and got

815
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: it before a friendly judge in northern Kentucky named Bamberger,

816
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: and they felt like they were overwhelmed a little bit.

817
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: How do we do this? So they brought in a

818
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: master of disaster, stan Chesley. Take it from there.

819
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 6: Well, stan Chesley came in and he was hired because

820
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 6: he was the guy who knew how to work. He

821
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 6: was already working with the drug companies group that was

822
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 6: deciding who would be paid in the litigations. So here

823
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 6: he's got a conflict. I would think most people would agree.

824
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 6: If he's working with the drug companies to allocate settlements,

825
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 6: how does he end up also on the plaintiff's side

826
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 6: to get a settlement. So there's all kinds of conflicts

827
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 6: and things going on. A little footnote would be Bill Gallion,

828
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 6: who was the lead, one of the lead Kentucky attorneys

829
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 6: from Lexington, big, big shot at University of Kentucky, blue

830
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 6: blood guy. He also was pardoned by Joe Biden in

831
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 6: the autopen pardon scandal.

832
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: Really yes, so san Chesley, was it greed because this

833
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: guy was companies were frightening him. You get a letter

834
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: from san Chesley Pharmaceutical companies. He came up with the

835
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: theories of Beverly Hills that were the fabrics themselves. Yes,

836
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: gave off nations owners. No one thought about that when

837
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills happened and was at nineteen seventy seventy seven,

838
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: and that was, okay, not much you can do. You

839
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 2: got the building is done, got a little bit of land.

840
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: But then stan came up with these novel theories of

841
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 2: how these three m and other companies were actually creating

842
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: fabric that caused the deaths. Suddenly there was one hundred

843
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: million dollars available and from there he was off and running.

844
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: This guy, he's a fabulous personality. I had lunch and

845
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: dinner with him when Mitch's house. Susan Delotte, federal judge

846
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: well knected, gave a lot of money to the Clintons,

847
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: got the appointment, et cetera, and they all good time.

848
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 6: What mistake did Stan Chesley make? Well, I mean it's

849
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 6: pretty clear here when you looked. I sat through a

850
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 6: lot of days of this trial, and I watched the

851
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 6: deposition that was done, uh, and it was one of

852
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: the most hostile, extreme, uncomfortable depositions I've ever seen.

853
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: I haven't seen very many, but that thing was unbelievable.

854
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 6: If you were going to make a TV drama about

855
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 6: the stereotypical corrupt lawyer, that's what it looked like.

856
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: He was a bully.

857
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: He was absolutely uncooperative, and he kind of had this

858
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 6: attitude that the jury picked up right away, I believe,

859
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: which was that I'm Stan Chesli.

860
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: Don't you know who I am? And it doesn't play

861
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: well in court. No, it doesn't you know who I

862
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: Whenever you say to a copper, to a judge or jury,

863
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: don't you know who I am? You've lost from Yes,

864
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: So I think the federal judgement Bertlesman and Bamberger was

865
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: the benet judge, state court judge. He was a Kentucky judge.

866
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Speaker 6: Yes judge, Oh okay, So anyway, at one point two, the

867
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 6: judge raised a lot of questions about how comes Stan

868
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 6: got immunity and all these other three guys, did you

869
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 6: know one of the guys, one of the lawyers in Kentucky.

870
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 6: His defense, and he got off this way, was that

871
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Speaker 6: he was too sousd to know what was going on

872
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 6: when these clients were being ripped off.

873
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: So I'm drunk. Yeah, I was an alcoholic. Yeah, I

874
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: got it out and you get pulled over on I

875
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: seventy one? Hey, mister officer, I'm too drunk to be

876
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: pulled over. What that's a true story? He said, Look, judge,

877
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: I'm so drunk that jury bought it. And they bought it,

878
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: So how you're not yelty?

879
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 6: He was drinking more than one of those half gallon

880
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 6: bottles of old Crow every day. He said, I had

881
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 6: no idea what these other two guys were doing, and

882
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: so they took pity on him.

883
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: And well stan Chesley's now passed on, and he did

884
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: a lot more good than bad, but this wasn't a

885
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: good chapter in his life. Peter Bronson a Chili Dog Press.

886
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: How to the American people for Christmas get a copy

887
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: of this about the magical history Tour, Murder Mystery and

888
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: Barrett History four five short stories Peter Bron's and mainly

889
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: connected to Cincinnati. And how how did the American people

890
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: get to copy of the book?

891
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 6: Well, you can get that signed copies at my website

892
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 6: which is Chili Dog Press dot com. And there's still

893
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 6: plenty of time to order those for Christmas also available

894
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 6: to all the local bookstores Barnes and Noble, Joseph Beth,

895
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 6: wherever books are sold in Cincinnati, and also on Amazon.

896
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 6: I like to support the local bookstores, but I understand

897
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Speaker 6: a lot of people love the convenience of Amazon and

898
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Speaker 6: the free shipping.

899
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: There's this thing about Bill Cunningham, the body snatcher. Oh yeah,

900
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: there's a story there. There is a great story there.

901
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: I think I think we just scratched the surface. Peter Bronson,

902
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: you're the best. Thanks for coming on this afternoon, you Bill.

903
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: Let's continue as a pleasure. Let's continue with more news

904
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Speaker 2: next to your home of the Bengals. And if somehow

905
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: the Stealers tie to the next four games and the

906
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: Bengals sweep the next four, they're in the playoffs. That's

907
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: route for tie. That's route for ties with the Stealers.

908
00:47:52,280 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: On news Radio seven hundred WLW. I remember Joe.

909
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hello, Bietum Skokes. I'm broadcasting.

910
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Speaker 2: Segment of the Inchoir. Put out a long story about

911
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: what the Reds did to try to get Kyle Schwarber,

912
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: which was five years, one and twenty five million, a

913
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: twenty five million short And I'll say this, you loved him.

914
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: I love him. Never ever met him. I never met him.

915
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: It seems like a nice young man, very good, Yes,

916
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: good man. He's gonna turn Is it thirty three or

917
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: thirty four? He's thirty one now I believe we'll check

918
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: it out. But in order thirty two I think, I

919
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: think thirty two or thirty. But by the time this

920
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Speaker 2: is concluding, he'll be thirty seven. Strikes out two hundred

921
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: times a year, and he doesn't play defense. But I'd

922
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: take him anyway compared to him into that. You kidding.

923
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: Just let him dh and just let him hit. But

924
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: three times in the last quarter century, the Reds have said,

925
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: let's spend big bucks. Griffy r Almost two hundred million?

926
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: How did that work out? Not good? Then, Mike? How

927
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: about Mike Mustakis? Does ask sixty five million? Was that

928
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: was that disaster? How boutch of Mark Candelaria? Forty five disaster?

929
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: So he took me about show hey or what's his name? Aki?

930
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 7: Or what the Japanese guy they got a few years

931
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 7: ago that turned out to be nothing? One time he's

932
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 7: back over in Japan. He played center field, the left hander. Yeah,

933
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 7: but the Reds have put out two hundred million dollars.

934
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, three hundred million dollars and got nothing to

935
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 7: Griffy Junior, Mustakas and Candelaria.

936
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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, you know what, what the hell? But

937
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: do you pay him one hundred and fifty million dollars

938
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: over five years? What do you say?

939
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: Well, they said that, I guess the thing that knocked

940
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Speaker 7: it into the Phillies.

941
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't know Willie. Maybe he didn't.

942
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 7: He didn't want to leave Philadelphia, and they said that

943
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 7: they guaranteed that fifth year, and that's what kind of

944
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 7: jump started him to go to Philadelphia. So Red's made

945
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 7: and the Oriel made him the same as offered him

946
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 7: the same money as Philadelphia did.

947
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: He he turns He was born March fifth, nineteen ninety three,

948
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: so he turns thirty three years old in March.

949
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Speaker 7: So he doesn't he doesn't play in the fielding, so

950
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 7: he just he's gonna stay healthy. Well, you know, all

951
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 7: ask dudes run the bases after a home run. But

952
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 7: say give me into the students report, please? Will he

953
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 7: the stude reporters of proud service of your local Tamestar

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Speaker 7: three six seven.

957
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Speaker 2: H e A T spot. Bengals update.

958
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Speaker 7: I need some good Spirits, wine and tobacco and party Town.

962
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: I need a party. I need some bourbon.

963
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 7: Baseball Today, Pete Alonzo's headed to the Baltimore Orioles five year,

964
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 7: one and fifty five million dollar deal deal.

965
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: So he got more of a deal. He got a

966
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: deal deal, He got more of a deal deal, and

967
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: Swarmer got I would have taken Swarm over the Polar Bear.

968
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: Yes or no? Yes, go ahead? Bengals update.

969
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 7: Let's see the Bengals today signing wide receiver Xavier Johnson

970
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 7: to their practice squad's first year player out of Ohio State,

971
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 7: Cincinnati navid native, and he started Summit Country Day defensive

972
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 7: ends Shamar Stewart remember him, huh, he's he's He's cleared

973
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 7: the practice now. So that's another bus that he's been

974
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 7: out since November fifteenth with a knee injury. He's been

975
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 7: out since August. T Higgins limited again today at practice.

976
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: How about his catches with his concussion protocol? He played,

977
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 7: He played, He gave it all in the field of honor.

978
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 7: Back to the Reds. They are considering maybe trading for

979
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 7: Kettle Marte or Brandon Low.

980
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Eh So, I don't know Brandon Low. He's Kettle Marte.

981
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 7: He's Kettle Marte is with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

982
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: Is you any good? I think so? See what else?

983
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: I'm still angry about this Swarmer situation. So you're saying

984
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: it was only a mere thirty million dollars five million

985
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: a year plus the fifth year, it was only a

986
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: thirty million?

987
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 6: Is that what I'm saying? Only thirty million? Rights that

988
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 6: a lot of money.

989
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: To you right now? Yeah?

990
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe not to you or a Rocky. There's a

991
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 7: lot of money to me.

992
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm a hard one, seg I'm the voice of the

993
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: common man, for God's sakes.

994
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 7: Miami RedHawks in college basketball tonight are at unc Ashville

995
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 7: and Minnesota takes on number six per Due.

996
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 2: It's sixty days until Super Bowl sixty. Of course, the

997
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: Bengals don't think wait a minute, I'm watching Fox Sports

998
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: this morning. Yeah, the windows open this year for the Bengals.

999
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: Are you ready? They better get some Teme Starr and

1000
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: get some heat in there. Steelers lose or tie Miami. Yeah,

1001
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: bengalspeed handily the Ravens. Okay, all right, then it's down

1002
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: to two games and the next three games. If the

1003
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: Bengals win the next three and the Steelers lose one

1004
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 2: of the remaining three after they tie and tie one

1005
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: of the next two after that, the Bengals are in.

1006
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 7: Also, Willie, we say happy birthday today to number nine

1007
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 7: Bill Plummer, Joe Burrow Brow, Happy birthdays twenty nine. Right,

1008
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 7: Hot Stove League back to Baseball Hot Stove League tonight

1009
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 7: at six oh five, they're going to be talking to

1010
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 7: Mark Sheldon, who has been at the Winter Meetings that

1011
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 7: ends today. What its hesa and reliever Emilio Pagan is

1012
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 7: a special guest. He signed for a two year deal, right, Yeah,

1013
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 7: he was twenty million. Generally he was pretty good. Yes,

1014
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 7: not all the time, but you know, you got your

1015
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 7: ups and downs. You know that it being a sportsman

1016
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 7: that you are. Now, I have many ups and downs

1017
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 7: in my I want to have more ups and downs.

1018
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 7: Does I know that so I have too many downs,

1019
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 7: not enough ups. If they've got your tongue stuck to

1020
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 7: a metal pipe in the winter time, No you mean

1021
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 7: like out in the out in the playground, or like

1022
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 7: that like that movie.

1023
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: No you second list, get back to the commercials. Okay,

1024
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: give me out of the stuture. By the way, we

1025
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: have Carrie Severino coming up after two o'clock, and then

1026
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: tomorrow allegedly Jackson Trumpy will be here.

1027
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 7: Willie and honor of a cold day here at a

1028
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 7: trice date and rain. We leave you with the immortal

1029
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 7: words of the Stooge report.

1030
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: Always could be with you, Bill, See you later, Mike

1031
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: Dawine on news radio seven hundred w L Bill Cunningham,

1032
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: The Great America. One of the great conservative attorneys in

1033
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: America is Carrie Severino. Unfortunately she has a law degreeted

1034
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: from Harvard, which is was a great universe, Not so

1035
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: much anymore. I'm not sure. She also was a law

1036
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: clerk to the great Justice Clarence Thomas, and she was

1037
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: instrumental and getting Amy Coney Barrett and Brett cavanall both

1038
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: affirmed by the United States Senate. Wrote a book with

1039
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: my good friend Molly Hemingway on justice, on trial, the

1040
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 2: Kavanaugh confirmation, and the future of the US Supreme Court,

1041
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: and so much more. So once again, Carrie Severina, Welcome

1042
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: to the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all, Kerry, tell

1043
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: us about this campaign finance case. We then have the

1044
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: tariffs case. We then have the Administrative state case, We

1045
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: then have the fourteenth Amendent case, so much more. First

1046
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: of all, what's before the US Supreme Court and the

1047
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: campaign finance matter.

1048
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has to do with an aspect of campaign

1049
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: finance law that says that party committees cannot coordinate certain

1050
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 4: expenditures with a candidate. And what's going on here is

1051
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 4: a challenge saying, Okay, years ago, when some of these

1052
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: campaign finance laws are put in place, there was a

1053
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 4: lot of stuff in them that in fact doesn't comport

1054
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: with the First Amendment. It's limiting people's First Amendment rights

1055
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 4: to particularly political speech. And the Court piece by piece

1056
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: has been kind of addressing this over the last decades.

1057
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 4: And if you look at it in light of today's

1058
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 4: understanding of free speech, this doesn't this just limitation doesn't

1059
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 4: make any sense because the only thing that the Court

1060
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: said you can limit political speech for is to avoid bribery,

1061
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 4: quid pro quo corruption with I give your campaign money

1062
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 4: and you do something for me, and that's just simply

1063
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: not a threat. When you're talking about coordination with a

1064
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 4: Republican Senatorial committee, for example, which is are the litigants

1065
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 4: in this case.

1066
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: Kerry Severino, Explain to the American people, why why is

1067
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: money free speech? Because many people think there's too much money.

1068
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: I don't let everybody talks my viewpoint, but American the

1069
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: Democrats want to limit it, and the Republicans certainly want

1070
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: to have unlimited Why why is money equal to free speech?

1071
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: Explain that to the American people.

1072
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 4: Well, look, in today's world, we're not campaigning by standing

1073
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 4: on a soapbox somewhere. And even if you were, someone's

1074
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: got to pay for that soatbox. You know, in order

1075
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: to be able to broadcast your message, you need to

1076
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Speaker 4: be able to pay for ads, to pay to get

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Speaker 4: to different places in the country to give those speeches.

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00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 4: And for someone it's not just the speech of the candidate,

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00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 4: it is the speech of the person. If I want

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00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: to support that can and speak in favor of that candidate,

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 4: do I have to run my own ads? No, I'd

1082
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: like to donate to someone who can help run those ads,

1083
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: and that's that is my speech as a donor as well.

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Speaker 4: You know, I agree it can be really frustrating the

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00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: amount of money and politics how expensive that is. However,

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: if we're going to have a republican democratic, democratic republic

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00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 4: where we can communicate and have the American people weighing

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00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: in on these things, they do need some way of

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00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 4: getting that information, and unfortunately that's going to cost some money.

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 4: And the bottom line is, even if it were if

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Speaker 4: we think it's better to not have that kind of speech,

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00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: well great, you just have to go back and amend

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00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: the Constitution to do that. And if we could get

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00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: a coalition across people to say, hey, we're going to

1095
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: limit it, fine, we can do that. But as it

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00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: stands right now, the First Amendment does protect speech. We

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00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: know the framers, particularly of all types of speech. They

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00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure we protected political speech, and so

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Speaker 4: I think that's why I expect the court to be

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Speaker 4: very protective of that in this NRSC case.

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Speaker 2: Kerrie Sevareen, I want to pick your mind on this

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Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment issue. When it was passed in the eighteen

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Speaker 2: late eighteenth maybe it was eighteen sixty eight after the

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00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: Civil War, everyone intended it to include the slaves that

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00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: the Democrats held in bond each for like one hundred

1106
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 2: and two hundred years, and the Republicans fought to free.

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Speaker 2: That's a different issue. And all of a sudden, the

1108
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: fourteenth a membo of the past one hundred and sixty years,

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: has morphed into something different that if you're born in

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Speaker 2: this country, you're automatically a citizen. Where do you stand

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Speaker 2: on the fourteenth Amendment? Automatic automatic citizenship for those born

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Speaker 2: here even though their parents are here illegally.

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Speaker 4: So I think this is something where originalism means it's

1114
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: a tougher question. Then again, just what do we think

1115
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: is a good system today?

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Speaker 2: Boy?

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Speaker 4: Our immigration system looks a whole lot different, doesn't it

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Speaker 4: than it did in eighteen sixty five? You know, our

1119
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: social services look a lot different. It used to be.

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Speaker 4: You came here, First of all, you'd have to show

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Speaker 4: that you actually could support yourself, and second of all,

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Speaker 4: if you couldn't, you're not going to have the type

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Speaker 4: of incredibly involved social services where you're going to get

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Speaker 4: the education and the food and the everything else. So

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Speaker 4: it's a different cost benefit analysis so definitely things have changed.

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Speaker 4: The question is what did the Constitution mean? And that's

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00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: really a question for historians. So that's where I think

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Speaker 4: the briefing in this case is going to be important,

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Speaker 4: because we can debate all day long what is the

1130
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Speaker 4: best system, But again, sometimes that might mean going back

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Speaker 4: and saying, Okay, we need to amend this to clarify it. Well,

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Speaker 4: as you said, the one thing we know for sure

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Speaker 4: it was supposed to cover was the freed slaves, Absolutely right,

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Speaker 4: But I think there's wrinkles about Okay, you know, we

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Speaker 4: also know it's not supposed to cover say, an invading

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01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 4: army or children of people who are here in a

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 4: diplomatic mission or something. But there's a lot of gray

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01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: area in between that we've historically been allowing the birth

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Speaker 4: right citizenship we have now, but that isn't spoken to

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Speaker 4: directly by the words, and so I think that's where

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Speaker 4: we're going to have to look and see as the

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01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 4: court drills down and says historically what was really understood

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Speaker 4: in eighteen sixty five by that language.

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Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that those who drafted the

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment did not take into account fifteen or twenty

1146
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: million illegals, many having children inside that they did not

1147
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: think about that when they drafted the fourteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to imagine how they could have right a

1149
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: very different situation. That's one of the challenges with interpreting

1150
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 4: our constitution is going, Okay, you know, they could just

1151
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: like search and seizure. They couldn't have imagined cell phones

1152
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 4: and what do we do with cell phone records? So

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Speaker 4: the court is tasked with trying to interpret this language

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Speaker 4: in light of some of these the changed realities of

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01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: the chaise's world.

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Speaker 2: So if the court that you've studied your entire life

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Speaker 2: says it's up to the electoral process, the fourteenth Amendment

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01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: could be amended because it takes two thirds of the House,

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Speaker 2: two thirds of the Senate, three fourths of the states,

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Speaker 2: the Democrats would never support that. Therefore, the fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 2: will not be amended. Therefore the status quo will be maintained.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: Well, assuming that that was true, But I have to say,

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Speaker 4: I think we've seen a shift on this over the

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: last few years because people had become so concerned on

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Speaker 4: both parties of the number of people streaming across the border.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think we can guarantee that that lineup

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Speaker 4: is you know, forever. There's no way this ever gets changed,

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Speaker 4: I really think. But again, we also don't even know

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Speaker 4: the ultimate answer on the historical question yet, so that

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01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: might be putting the cart before the horse.

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Speaker 2: Carrie Severino, the Judicial Crisis Network. Let's talk about the

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 2: administrative state that Democrats love, the administrative state, unelected bureaucrats.

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Speaker 2: And I guess the argument is, we have an elected president,

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Speaker 2: we have an unelected bureaucratic state making decisions that may

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Speaker 2: be against what the American people want. So on one hand,

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Speaker 2: you have the growth of the administrative state, especially the

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Speaker 2: last fifteen or twenty years, that has taken over the

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Speaker 2: rule of law in this country, all unelected. On the

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Speaker 2: other hand, we elected a president, Donald Trump. Does Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump have the power to discharge someone in the administrative

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Speaker 2: state or it could be someone really important, like setting

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Speaker 2: interest rates without cause simply because she's unelected. So should

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Speaker 2: an unelected bureaucrat trump an elected president.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you put it that way, right, it sounds

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Speaker 4: pretty crazy.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we have no question about when a new president

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Speaker 4: comes in, does he get to change out the Secretary

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Speaker 4: of State? Of course, does he get to change out

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01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 4: the secretary, of course, so we understand that personnelis policy.

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Speaker 4: If you can't change the heads of these major agencies,

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: then how are you going to have the policy that

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: the American people just elected in a new president come

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Speaker 4: into effect. The problem is we've created over the last

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Speaker 4: ninety years, at least since this case that was being

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Speaker 4: reconsidered now a state, there were people call these agencies independent,

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Speaker 4: and that's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of frightening.

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Speaker 4: Independent of who, independent of the president and the legislature

1201
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 4: and the judiciary, you have a free floating, you know,

1202
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 4: horde of a thousands of people working for something that

1203
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 4: doesn't really fit comfortably in our constitutional system. This is

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Speaker 4: not the three structures of the triparte governments that we

1205
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 4: all learned about in civics class or in schoolhouse rock.

1206
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Speaker 4: So I think this is a great step that the

1207
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 4: Court is coming back and looking at this. It's actually

1208
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 4: something they've been looking at and questioning the wisdom of

1209
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 4: for the last you know, several years, because we started

1210
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 4: to recognize how important those structural limits are and how

1211
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 4: far our current system has strayed. I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: there was a lot of talk during arguments about just

1213
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 4: the sort of more I think they aren't you going

1214
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: to just totally upend the structure of government. And the

1215
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 4: bottom line is, if our structure of government is that

1216
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 4: far outside the constitution, then heck, yeah, we're we're going

1217
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Speaker 4: to upend all of that unconstitutional stuff. Take out those

1218
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 4: weeds so we can get back to what the constitution

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 4: actually said. And if you're saying that's a night and

1220
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Speaker 4: day difference between the government we have now in the

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Speaker 4: constitutional system, then that's all the more reason we need

1222
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Speaker 4: to get to work.

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Speaker 2: Kerrie Savarino. It's called the fourth branch of government, which

1224
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Speaker 2: is the administrative state, the irs, etc.

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Speaker 6: The Federal Reserve, all that stuff. There's tens of thousands

1226
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 6: that have can only be fired with cause, and that

1227
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 6: is something put in by the Congress so Congress can

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Speaker 6: control the president. In this case the Federal Reserve, the

1229
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 6: president got sideways. One of the governors goes of our

1230
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 6: mortgage rate. I guess misrepresentations, and the president says, I

1231
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 6: want her to go, but her term wasn't up. Congress

1232
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 6: said it, well, it must be for cause. So I

1233
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Speaker 6: guess the issue is if the administrative state is the

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01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 6: fourth branch of government, where does that exist in the constitution.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the fourth branch is clearly not in the constitution.

1236
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Speaker 4: Now the Federal Reserve is going to be another sticky issue.

1237
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 4: The case we just heard argued was about the Federal

1238
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 4: Trade Commission, and I think that one is clearly going

1239
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 4: They're clearly going to say, hey, the president, if it's

1240
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 4: not there's no such thing as an agency that's existing

1241
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: in limbo here. If this is an executive agency, the

1242
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 4: head of the executive branch, that is, the president, has

1243
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 4: to have control over it. I do think from the

1244
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 4: way oral arguments went that there's been some suggestion, including

1245
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 4: on behalf of the president's lawyer, saying, Okay, the Federal

1246
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 4: Reserve is a little bit different, and they're going to

1247
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 4: argue that case. And I think that probably is going

1248
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: to come down more to whether this is really for

1249
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 4: cause or not, and if it's not for cause, they're

1250
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 4: going to open up a whole new can of worms.

1251
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: Because the Federal Reserve is going to be it still

1252
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 4: might end up that the president has controlled of it.

1253
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Speaker 4: I don't know where the court land on it, but

1254
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Speaker 4: it's going to be a slightly different question than the

1255
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 4: all of the other independent agencies because it's just a

1256
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: different beast.

1257
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: Isn't cause a subjective term. One person's cause is another

1258
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: person's irrelevancy. Really, if I think the female governor one

1259
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: of the Federal Reserve was a more conservative person, the

1260
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: president would say that there's no cause. On the other hand,

1261
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: if you want to get rid of somebody, there is cause.

1262
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: You have to find something. And so the arc form

1263
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: is for cause. Who determines what is cause?

1264
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: Well, that's where the court has to come back. And

1265
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Speaker 4: if you said for cause because she's wearing white shoes

1266
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Speaker 4: after Labor Day and I can't abide by that, you

1267
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: know the courts are going to say, Okay, no, that's

1268
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Speaker 4: not sufficient. So there's a whole body of case law

1269
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Speaker 4: and what kinds of things you can include is for cause?

1270
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Speaker 4: Otherwise you're right, it would just be a blank check

1271
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: and it doesn't really mean anything. So so I think

1272
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 4: the question is going to be whether when you have

1273
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Speaker 4: someone who's in a position of financial trust, like being

1274
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 4: on the Federal Reserve, that that type of more misstatements

1275
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 4: in her mortgage applications is going to qualify that's sufficiently

1276
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 4: similar to the kind of work she's doing at the

1277
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Speaker 4: fed that this would qualify his cause. And I think

1278
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Speaker 4: that those arguments are going to be held in January.

1279
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Speaker 4: We're going to find out where the court stands.

1280
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Speaker 2: On that, all right, Kerrie. Lastly, Carrie Severine, I love

1281
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: picking your mind tariff's legality or not. The President has

1282
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: hanged his hat on the issue of tariffs. They're quick,

1283
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: they're effective, It's raised hundreds of billions of dollars. Supposedly,

1284
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 2: it may impact inflation down the road at some point.

1285
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: Presidents said a day or two ago that Europe's going

1286
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: to impost tariffs on China. China is going to impost

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01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: tariffs on Europe if I have to wait for the

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Speaker 2: Congress to enact something that's going to be impossible as

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Speaker 2: a consequence. Give me your crystal ball, Carrie Severino. On

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Speaker 2: tariffs legal or not under the Constitution.

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Speaker 4: I think the way that those arguments went, I suspect

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court is going to say that the President

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Speaker 4: is taking this tariff power too far because and what

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Speaker 4: they're concerned about is not just what's happening today and

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Speaker 4: what President Trump's doing, but if you let declaring an

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Speaker 4: emergency be considered incredibly broadly, the next Democrat president can say, well,

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Speaker 4: it's a climate crisis, and that's an emergency, and I'm

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Speaker 4: going to put one thousand percent taxes on everything made

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Speaker 4: with petroleum products. You can't have language that is so

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Speaker 4: broad that it becomes meaningless. And so I think the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court struggling with how do we make sure this

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Speaker 4: language isn't a complete blank check of a meaningless term

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Speaker 4: that any president can just do whatever they want with

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Speaker 4: the tariff power. That makes me think they're going to

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Speaker 4: probably want to limit this. That means limiting it for

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Speaker 4: President Trump, but that also is going to mean limiting

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Speaker 4: it for future Democratic presidents as well. Honestly, well, we

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Speaker 4: only find out when they come out with the argument.

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Speaker 2: About a minute remaining that trump'ster claims is going to

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Speaker 2: be a financial crisis if he doesn't have the ability.

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Speaker 2: I know, the Costco and others are suing the president

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Speaker 2: for billions of dollars they get the money back, And

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Speaker 2: one of the questions of one of the justices was, well,

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Speaker 2: what happens if we go with your viewpoint and the

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Speaker 2: president considers what if we say a tariff is like

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Speaker 2: a tax, and the tax is only raised or lowered

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Speaker 2: by the Congress, what if there's economic crisis causing a

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Speaker 2: great depression to the Supreme Court justices, you know so well,

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Speaker 2: would they react to the practicalities of a crisis that

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Speaker 2: their order would create.

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Speaker 4: I think the challenge is at this point you've got

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Speaker 4: both sides saying there's going to be a crisis. If

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Speaker 4: we did have a depression level event, then I think

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Speaker 4: your president would have a much easier time saying, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this is a clear emergency, and you might you might

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Speaker 4: have a Supreme Court that is more sympathetic. But I

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Speaker 4: think at this point it's challenging because both sides are

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Speaker 4: going to say are telling you the sky's falling, and

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Speaker 4: they can't both be right. So the Supreme Court's job,

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Speaker 4: they're not really economists at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: to determine who's who's predictions about the markets are correct.

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Speaker 4: They're having to look at what are the legal terms here,

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Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes that might mean that the guy

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Speaker 4: who is making all the correct economic predictions doesn't have

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Speaker 4: the legal grounds. Nonetheless, one of our problems in our

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Speaker 4: country right now is Congress is not doing what it

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Speaker 4: should be in many cases in terms of passing bills.

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Speaker 4: You've gotten some good ones passed recently, but for the

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Speaker 4: buy and large, we need them to be actually taking

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Speaker 4: the reins and doing the legislating and rather than just

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Speaker 4: leaving it to presidents. So they need to actually be working.

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Speaker 2: Get out to your crystal ball, Carrie Severino. You know

1343
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas quite well. He wrote a great book a

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Speaker 2: few years back. It's one of my great guests. Love.

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Speaker 2: I love the life and Times of Clarence Thomas. How

1346
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: cognizant is he of the biological clock? Father time is undefeated, untied,

1347
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: unscored on and come next summer will there be pressure

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Speaker 2: on him to step down so this president can appoint

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Speaker 2: someone with the same philosophy.

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Speaker 4: You know, people are always asking these questions, and I

1351
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 4: think people make a very different analysis for their own

1352
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 4: selves than they do if you're just looking at the strategy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that that's the fundamental thing. And you

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Speaker 4: even heard President Trump recently just say, you know, these

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Speaker 4: are great justices, and honestly they're both kind of living

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Speaker 4: their best lives. Justice Thomas and Justice Alito, who's the

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Speaker 4: other one that gets talked about a lot. I haven't

1358
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Speaker 4: heard him say anything about plans to retire, But you

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Speaker 4: know your guess is as good as mine. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: Well. I hope he serves along, Hope he never dies.

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Speaker 2: Hope he's like Methuselah. Hope he lives nine hundred years.

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Speaker 2: It's unlikely, but we need to keep the court in

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Speaker 2: our hands because God knows at times that people get

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Speaker 2: it wrong all the time, and the Court's there is

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Speaker 2: a stallwarts for individual freedom and rights. So in the

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Speaker 2: campaign finance, you think you're in good shape. Tariff's lawyer,

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: legality not so good to shape, Administrative state good shape.

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Speaker 2: Fourteenth Amendment not so good a shape. Do I have

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Speaker 2: that right?

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Speaker 4: Well? I feel the last one's a little hard to

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Speaker 4: predict until I hear the arguments on the fourteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know where we're going, but I think

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Speaker 4: your other estimates. That's that's the bottom.

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Speaker 2: Line, all right, Carrie Savarina, you're the best of this.

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Speaker 2: May God bless you and God bless America. Carrie, Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, God bless you all. Let's continue with

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Speaker 2: more news coming up your home of the Reds and

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Speaker 2: Bengals News Radio seven hundred w l W. Obviously this

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01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: one hurts, but no, we'll come back stronger.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Yet I'm broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: And I rock. I'm glad you're here to defend Notre

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: Dame because the ads are going after yesterday. They're going

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: after Notre Dame. Because you think you are. If you

1384
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: think you're so big, join a conference like the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: Play some real football games, not against Stanford, not against

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01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of sisters of the poor.

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Speaker 5: Play.

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Speaker 8: We basically play an a that's well, that's not very good.

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Speaker 2: They could be year to year. Usually they're pretty good.

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Speaker 2: But then you play you play like, uh, North Carolina State.

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Speaker 2: You might play a Stanford. No, you don't play well,

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Speaker 2: there's no US school teams that Notreame places. You got

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Speaker 2: a big wake Forest game coming up Wake Forest. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean they're in the ACC so they know you

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: play around. I'd say, joined the Big Ten? Who do

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Speaker 2: you think you are? Yeah, the other edias are saying,

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01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: once again, who do you think you are?

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame doesn't feel like splitting the money. Remember last

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Speaker 8: year they go, they go the National Championship Game. How

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Speaker 8: many other schools within their conference data to split the

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01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 8: money with zero? That's all exactly, And the NBC deal

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01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 8: that pays them as much as any conference.

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Speaker 2: Catholics care about money, gambling and beer, Is that correct?

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: Pretty important stuff. Yes, So the Notre Dame would have

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: gotten five million dollars. Now they get nothing, and you'll

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, yeah, five million dollars. I mean they're

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: got a nineteen billion dollar endowment. How much nineteen billion?

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,560
Speaker 2: So say, okay, say it was three going to a

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: three million to play in that ball.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna cost a million to you know, for travel

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01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 8: and odd stuff.

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Speaker 2: So how does you see do against the base. It's

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01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 2: not going to be noted.

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Speaker 8: Everyone's like, oh, we get the last chance. The fans

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01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 8: will see that the twenty twenty five fighting Iris. No,

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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 8: it'll be there'll be twelve guys that you know that

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01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 8: are going to declare for the drafts. Remember a couple

1418
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 8: of years ago in Florida State, they finished thirteen to.

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Speaker 2: Oh and then they were angry. They didn't get to go.

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Speaker 8: Right, so a lot of them opted out and they

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 8: got absolutely destroyed by Georgia and that kind of set

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Speaker 8: off a chain reaction of let's call it mediocrity ball games.

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Speaker 2: Right, ball games are.

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Speaker 8: Done, you can tractually obligated to say that the Bulls

1425
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 8: are a great.

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: Thing, they're wonderful. The Toilet Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, the

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01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: Bowl Ring, I don't know, Liberty Bowl, I'm taking Navy,

1428
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean it. I mean those are all kind of

1429
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: like side show things.

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Speaker 8: Bulls originated back when college football was more regional and

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 8: you weren't traveling over place.

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: Say let's let's meet up here and let's play in a.

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01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 8: Bowl game in Southern it'd be great and fans to

1434
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 8: finally get to get a chance to see you.

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01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: But it's just a different world. Now, say give me

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Speaker 2: in a stuite report because we have to get back

1437
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: to the commercials as soon as possible.

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Speaker 7: Will he the stood reporters of Proud Service, every local

1439
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 7: teme Star heating in air conditioning dealers, Thamestar, kwala, you

1440
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 7: could feel in Cincinnati, colwayomagair at one eight eight eight

1441
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:27,839
Speaker 7: nine ninety six h v A c Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: That I played BYU would have been the Mormons versus

1443
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: the Catholics, and Joe Frederick would have made a boatload

1444
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: of money.

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Speaker 8: Speaking of I'm glad you mentioned that Mormon. How did

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 8: how did BYU join the Big twelve? How'd that work

1447
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 8: out for him?

1448
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 2: They did? They all of a sudden, go to the stratosphere,

1449
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: and they don't like the Mormons anymore.

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01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 8: They like the Cat I'm saying, everyone's saying, notre dames,

1451
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 8: you'd join the conference by conference?

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01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: Are are they in the college football playoff? Does that

1453
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 2: work out so well for him? Who is b Yu play?

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01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 8: I don't know they play. They play in the Big twelves.

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 8: They played Big twelve teams. They played Texas Tech, they

1456
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 8: played play in the bowl game. They go into a

1457
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 8: bowl game.

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01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: Not sure, they played Texas Tech and a championship. I

1459
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: don't know where they go for the.

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Speaker 8: You know they play Iowa State and Kansas State, and

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 8: you know it's big twelve teams.

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Speaker 2: Baylor, I mean a Mormon's big hitters or Mormons like Violet.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Mormons. I watched that show. Bearcat fans

1464
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: don't like them.

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Speaker 8: I love more American Primeval and the Mormons were some

1466
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 8: bad dudes, and bring him young back in the day.

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01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: Bring the pop Tart Bowl? What is that the pop

1468
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 2: Tart bull? The giant pop Tarts are walking around the

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: play Are they're going to say all that?

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Speaker 8: Well, they're gonna play, but the question is how many

1471
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Speaker 8: of their players are going to play in the game.

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Speaker 2: Don't know there's top guys are Mormons? I love Mormons?

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01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: Please continue? Well, Bengals up.

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 7: They brought to you by uh, let's see, somebody sure

1475
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 7: I about the liquor?

1476
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 2: Place to find the paper? Tequila makes her clothes fall off.

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01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 7: That's a country brought to you by good spirits, wanted

1478
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 7: tobacco and party town.

1479
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: Let's see.

1480
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 7: The Bengals have assigned wide receiver Xavier Johnson to the

1481
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 7: practice squad, first year player out of Ohio state since

1482
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 7: any native attended Summit Country Day. Chamar Stewart is back

1483
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Speaker 7: at practice.

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01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: About that Rock.

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01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 7: Shamar has since mid November with a knee injury t

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01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:08,839
Speaker 7: Haagen knee limited.

1487
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 8: Need him to work the workout, need him to have

1488
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 8: a last four games?

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: Here? Just kids, Jamar Stewart, Are you kidding me? So

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:21,759
Speaker 2: we need He's got bertanidis, bert and iis bertanitis. Red's update.

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Speaker 2: Get the latest on the winter meetings tonight?

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Speaker 7: Well he stove league at six oh five here on

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Speaker 7: seven hundred WLW do.

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Speaker 2: You defend the Reds at all Rock? They offered five years,

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Speaker 2: twenty million year and our twenty five. They offered twenty

1496
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: five million dollars less than the Phillies twenty five million.

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Speaker 8: Less in baseball terms these days. Is that a lot

1498
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 8: of money, a little bit of money or average money.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of money to me and you, but.

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Speaker 2: Not much money. Bas seg. I love you dearly, but

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Speaker 2: you're not as serious.

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Speaker 8: It's tough because I'm sure they sit in meetings and

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Speaker 8: go how can we drive tickets sales?

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Speaker 2: He was promotion. It's easy. People would show up to

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Speaker 2: watch it. How about the polar bear segment? Please continue?

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Speaker 7: Pete Alonzo Willie, speaking of the polar Berry leaves the

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Speaker 7: Mets five year, one hundred and fifty five million dollar

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Speaker 7: deal to join the Baltimore Orioles.

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Speaker 2: Seg your rock, your reaction to that one?

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Speaker 4: No comment?

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Speaker 2: Please continue? He's making more than Swarmer.

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Speaker 7: Let's see, it's sixty days until the Super Bowl. Rock

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Speaker 7: is right around the corner, a hundred six days to

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Speaker 7: opening day. And happy birthday the number nine, Bill Plumber

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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow, Please continue.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, he probably got a birthday. He's twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: He's getting old. He's getting old. Does Philip Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: have a chance. He's a grandfather. He's forty four. He's

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Speaker 2: a grandfatherland. I mean, I'm interested in you know, you're

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Speaker 2: looking Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco. But Flacker has

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Speaker 2: been playing. He hasn't played for five years. It's true,

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Speaker 2: five years. It's a disaster in that five years a

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Speaker 2: long time. It's a long time.

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Speaker 7: The culture of the talk of the NFL until like

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Speaker 7: a few weeks ago, they've they've followed on hard times.

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Speaker 2: Daddy injuries, injuries, injuries. Berton Itis is when you were

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Speaker 2: a high draft pick for the l s U and

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Speaker 2: then you come here and we don't know why, what's

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01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 2: the problem. What is the problem with Burton? Why can't

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Speaker 2: he function as a wide receiver? He's unclaimed by nobody.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if you were released by here and care is

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Speaker 2: he an essay?

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Speaker 8: I didn't pick you up? How would you feel about that?

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Speaker 8: I talked about this with Tom Brennaman this morning. I've

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Speaker 8: seen it a million times. You get guys that show

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Speaker 8: you that want to play in the league. In their

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Speaker 8: whole life, they've been the fastest, the biggest, the best,

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Speaker 8: and you know they haven't had to put in as

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Speaker 8: much work. And the guys that make it in the

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Speaker 8: league are the ones that want to study the game,

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Speaker 8: actually love the game and not what the game brings them.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure ever really grind it out, learning

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Speaker 2: the playbook and learn the grind it out. You got

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Speaker 2: to grind wide receiver, got to grind it like ozempic.

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Speaker 2: Gotta grind, You gotta grind, you gotta grind, you gotta

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Speaker 2: grind segment.

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Speaker 8: It's crazy because you know, someone like him, with with

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Speaker 8: the talent that a lot of other people would die

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Speaker 8: to have, they just can't make it because they're not

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Speaker 8: as physically talent, but have the will, have the they wanted,

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Speaker 8: you know, the desire to study. And he didn't know

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Speaker 8: what where to be called a slap in the face

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Speaker 8: of those guys. He's got this golden opportunity.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of yeah, oh well, I guess sixty thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a week to him is no big deal. He's

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Speaker 2: about to find out reality.

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Speaker 8: I'm interested in this heck to see if anybody picks

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Speaker 8: him up, is then they pick a flyer up on

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Speaker 8: that he said unclaimed and one went through. So but

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Speaker 8: Jermaine Germaine, you know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe'll go to the UFL.

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Speaker 8: But he was I mean, he was a red flag

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Speaker 8: before the draft, and I know the Bengals felt they

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Speaker 8: stole a guy that had kind of first round talent

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Speaker 8: get him in the third.

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Speaker 2: Over all, right, And and I said, what you want

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Speaker 2: about Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 8: I think he does a good job of, you know,

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Speaker 8: building culture and and doing all that.

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Speaker 2: And even he couldn't get him to Jamar Chase tried

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Speaker 2: like crazy because you know they're built the same they

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the same building, everything, same talent. One

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Speaker 2: is all time great. The other guy can't get on

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Speaker 2: the field. It's all about what's between.

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Speaker 8: Wolves, football and the other loves of segment is not

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Speaker 8: as easy as I make it.

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Speaker 2: Look. I know where you're coming from. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: you're not a serious person. Okay, thank him? All right, Rock?

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Speaker 2: What's on the big show today? I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: have no idea. Well, do you have your right?

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Speaker 8: I get we got Dan Monk Kroger is telling folks

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Speaker 8: after first of the year, everybody's got to come back,

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Speaker 8: no more remote work back in the building. I would

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Speaker 8: hope that would have happened before this. Rodney McMullin would

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Speaker 8: have had him back quicker. Yeah, ending their work remote

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Speaker 8: work arrangements in January, and I guess they got a

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Speaker 8: new uh Kruger is a new delivery strategy involving.

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Speaker 2: I always buy from I love Kroger. I buy from

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Speaker 2: West Barney.

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Speaker 8: And then see at four o'clock we have our Glenn Clark,

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Speaker 8: who's our Ravens guys, the Glen Clark radio show, talk

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Speaker 8: about the big game this weekend, and then you're joining

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Speaker 8: us at five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Got cold as the well Diggers behind today. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be cold on Sunday. But they just beat the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Get the same playbook out, repeat the same and then

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Speaker 2: do it again. Beat them and if the Steelers lose

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Speaker 2: to the Dolphins, then have a two ties in the

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Speaker 2: last three games and the Bengals sweep out, they get

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs. Very simple, it's very simple segment. Let's

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Speaker 2: get back to the commercials. Give me out of the

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Speaker 2: student's report.

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Speaker 7: Will he and honor of a cold and rainy day

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Speaker 7: here in the tri State. We leave you with the

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Speaker 7: immortal words of the stood report.

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Speaker 2: Kid, don't get too high when it's great, it don't

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Speaker 2: get too low when it's back. Am I miss that guy?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, cowboy? I miss him and Tommy back at

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Speaker 2: it Rock. Good luck to you, thank you. Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: is too big for your breitches on seven hundred Ald