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Speaker 2: that's the way the news goes, seems so. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to having in studio Jeff Pastor. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that Jeff Pastor. Five years since he was arrested. He

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Speaker 2: Scoop at bright Bart News, it is Tuesday. Politics Editor

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Speaker 2: Bradley Jay returns. We'll talk about the end of the shutdown,

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Speaker 2: what does it mean going forward? We're gonna do the

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Speaker 2: Daniel Davis a deep dive. Oh my god, Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: making some inroads with Syria. Syria forever the bisar alshad

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Speaker 2: Rezime a thorn in literally everyone side, a financer of terrorism,

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Speaker 2: look after the Abraham Accords under his first presidency, he's

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Speaker 2: still doing some great work. Syria has agreed to join

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Speaker 2: how about that? S Heerian Information Minister Hamazu al Mustafa

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Speaker 2: by eighty nine other partners too, for the purpose of

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Speaker 2: in the name of bettering its own economic situation. I

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Speaker 2: don't care what the motivations are. Listen, you hold enough

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Speaker 2: You want to change the dynamic, Well, let's go after

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Speaker 2: So a salute to the Trump administration. First visit by

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Speaker 2: talks concerned expanding economic cooperation between the two nations, US

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Speaker 2: let's make things good here for my own people, says

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Speaker 2: the new president. Yes. In an interview with Parley Fox

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Speaker 2: News they aired yesterday, Al Shahar, the president, said Syria

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Speaker 2: emphasizing that damasca's intention to establish itself as a geopolitical partner. Quote.

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Speaker 2: The goal is for Syria to no longer be seen

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Speaker 2: congratulations Syria for joining the fold. Well, let's see what

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Speaker 2: So what do we got going on here today? Veterans Day?

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Speaker 2: see here PG. Sittenfeld, you heard him, Tom of the

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Speaker 2: pardon like PG. Sittenfeld secured from evil Orange Man Donald Trump. So,

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Speaker 2: We'll off talk to him about this. He pleaded guilty

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Speaker 3: That's who you would choose. That's who you would pick.

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Speaker 4: That got shut down? Do you remember Parker's being shut down?

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, Brian, You and I might not

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Speaker 2: Good for you, But let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: Putting the drench in the fire with a cold bucket

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to luring even more folks from the greater Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: And I do appreciate your criticism of the wine, and

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Speaker 2: Thanks John for the levity five twenty eight fifty five

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Speaker 2: Let's see what Tom's got this morning, Tom, welcome back,

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Speaker 2: my friend. Good to hear from me as always.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good morning. And I remember as part of that

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Speaker 2: No that, yeah, how about how about the free exercise,

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Speaker 2: They're allowed to do that. If it might be bad

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Speaker 5: One of the one of the dumber parts of that,

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Speaker 2: That was my favorite one in Ohio. I mean, we

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Speaker 5: Who knows stupid it is? And when you're you know,

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Speaker 5: And so with the whole freedom of speech thing and

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Speaker 5: And we're on this side, the common sense side, like,

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Speaker 6: Have a great day, Bryan, Thanks Tom, you too.

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Speaker 2: enjoy hearing from Yes, it's cribbage, Mike, my submariner or

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Speaker 2: sub mariner friend. Both both both statements are both articulations accurate.

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Speaker 2: I looked it up, Mike, because I always called you

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Speaker 2: guys sub mariners because I always think of the Rolex

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Speaker 2: sub Mariner watch. And you said it's submarin er, so

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Speaker 2: I had to look it up. Either way, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's like Epic Times or a POC Times. It's either

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Speaker 2: way is okay. But I always love hearing from you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, my friend, Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Very much, Brian, and happy heavenly birthday to your dad.

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Speaker 7: And before I get to my Veterans Day comment, I

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Speaker 7: too have birthdays to celebrate today. My twin grandsons turned

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Speaker 7: fifteen today. Oh my gosh, and their father is a

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Speaker 7: retired submariner obviously yours truly, their pop pop is a

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Speaker 7: retired submariner. So the fact that we have twins born

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Speaker 7: on Veterans Day, and we'll see if they pick up

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Speaker 7: the mantle once they graduate high.

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Speaker 2: And awfully close. Go back, well at age fifteen, have

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Speaker 2: you ever have you had a conversation with them about

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Speaker 2: whether you're whether they're interested in serving in any capacity?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they they they are right there. When my

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Speaker 8: son in law retired from the sub base, he still

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Speaker 8: works on the sub base and maintenance of the submarines. So, uh,

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Speaker 8: every time we visit there, I think they're definitely leading

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Speaker 8: that way because I think they're the stories that I've

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Speaker 8: told them, what their their father has experienced too. I

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Speaker 8: would not be surprised if they pick up the In

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Speaker 8: their case, their last name is Neemon Mantle. So and

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Speaker 8: if you have to show them how to I.

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Speaker 2: Can suck it up and deal with the claustrophobic conditions

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Speaker 2: on a submarine.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's a lucrative position.

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Speaker 3: To be there.

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Speaker 8: And their father isn't as tall and stature, so they

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Speaker 8: won't have it as difficult a time as yours, truly did.

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Speaker 2: You're like six to one, aren't you?

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Speaker 8: Six four?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Sorry made it by two inches six sixes to cut off.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you made it, Mike, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: your service to our country. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Well, Brian.

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Speaker 8: I can't thank you and Jill and I for what

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Speaker 8: you do throughout the year in support of US veterans,

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Speaker 8: whether it be the VA, the guests you have on

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Speaker 8: like that thrilling author about the USS Tang, and obviously

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Speaker 8: you're continued to support for a near and dear to

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Speaker 8: my heart tri State Honor Flight because it wasn't always

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Speaker 8: this way. Even over the course of my career and

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Speaker 8: listening in nineteen seventy five post Vietnam, there were many

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Speaker 8: bases that we were not allowed to go off base

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Speaker 8: and uniform for fear of what might happen. Things started

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Speaker 8: to turn around after the first golf for it, but

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Speaker 8: clearly after nine to eleven brings us to where we

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Speaker 8: are today, and it's a great appreciation that we have

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Speaker 8: when we shake someone's hand or hear those words, because

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of struggling veterans out there too, And

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Speaker 8: today is a day to pat someone.

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Speaker 3: On the back.

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Speaker 8: And if I could, in closing, just read something that's

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Speaker 8: posted in most VFW.

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Speaker 3: Halls and American Legion Hall.

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Speaker 8: It's a tribute to the veteran, Please do and that

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Speaker 8: it is the veteran, not the reporter, who has given

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Speaker 8: us freedom of the pro us. It is the veteran,

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Speaker 8: not the campus organizer, who has given us freedom of speech.

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Speaker 5: It is the.

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Speaker 8: Veteran, not the politicians, that ensures our right to life, liberty,

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Speaker 8: and the pursuit of happiness. And it is the veteran

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Speaker 8: who salutes the flag, who serves beneath that flag, and

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Speaker 8: whose coffin is draped by that flag. Happy Veterans Day

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Speaker 8: one and all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend, for your service or our country

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Speaker 2: and for those wonderful words. I do appreciate it as

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Speaker 2: we honor the American veterans today. Honoring you too, Mike,

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Speaker 2: appreciate our friendship. Man. One of the beauties of being

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Speaker 2: host of the fifty five KRS morning shows the friendships

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Speaker 2: I've built over the years, and yours is one that

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Speaker 2: I truly truly value. Thank you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Five forty five fifty five KRSIT talk station Foreign Exchange

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Speaker 2: and interject five fifty to fifty five KRSD talk station,

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Speaker 2: I'm very happy Veterans Day to you, pat your veteran

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Speaker 2: fans on the back and thank them for their service

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Speaker 2: to our country. Overally, stack is stupid, and I asked

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Speaker 2: at the outset of the program, since Jay Ratliffe is

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Speaker 2: dealing with Bell's palsy, which it makes it impossible for

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Speaker 2: him to really articulate his words, and he's getting better.

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Speaker 2: I got a report from him yesterday working on therapy

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Speaker 2: and hopefully we'll get him back as early as next Thursday.

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Speaker 2: But we're thinking about you, Jay, And of course every

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Speaker 2: time I see an airline story, I think of Jay

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Speaker 2: and thinking I wonder if it'd be on his list

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Speaker 2: this week, missie. And this is one that immediately came

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Speaker 2: to mind. We got a veteran United Airlines flight attendant

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Speaker 2: apparently ten times the legal limit of alcohol after chugging

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Speaker 2: multiple mini vodka bottles. Margaret Lake, fifty six at California,

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Speaker 2: admitted to drinking on the ten hour overnight transatlantic group

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Speaker 2: between San Francisco and London, happened October seventeenth. As this

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Speaker 2: tradition apparently so trashed on arrival that she had to

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Speaker 2: be treated by first responders and taken on a nearby hospital.

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Speaker 2: Blood alcohol level this is a British measurement two sixteen milligram.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, bottom line, more than ten times the UH.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's point zero four for flight attendants. I

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Speaker 2: look that up, So more than ten times the point

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Speaker 2: zero four limit to work on an aircraft. Drunken mid

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Speaker 2: flight addicts were quote obvious risk to herself and other passengers.

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Speaker 2: At the corner to the prosecutor who's been assigned to

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Speaker 2: the case, she admitted to drinking, resigned from the job

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Speaker 2: of twenty six years, saying she deeply regrets what happens.

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Speaker 2: According to her attorney, she had the alcohol because she

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Speaker 2: needed to calm down. Okay, Free from jail, Sentenced to

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Speaker 2: a two thousand dollars fine United Airlines. Her former employer

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Speaker 2: declined comment. And you go back to all those times

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Speaker 2: Jay Ratliff has pointed out and saluted the flight attendants

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Speaker 2: because they have a much much more difficult and challenging

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Speaker 2: job than you and I ever give them credit for.

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Speaker 2: And you don't want a drunk trying to help passengers

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Speaker 2: get out of a burning airplane, stating the obvious thank

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Speaker 2: you Joe. Suspects and the death of two men in

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Speaker 2: the South Valley home on Friday night, told deputies and

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Speaker 2: an encrypted message that an encrypted message from a cockroach

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Speaker 2: told him he needed to kill what okay? Bernolillo County

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Speaker 2: Sheriff's Office at Alex Hernandez, twenty five in charged with

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Speaker 2: two open counts of murder booked into the Metropolitan Detention

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Speaker 2: Center over over the weekend. The men who he killed

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Speaker 2: have yet to be identified by the police department, but

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Speaker 2: deputies responded about ten thirty pm to reports a gunfire

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Speaker 2: near Real Bravo. Deputies got there, Hernandez opened the door,

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Speaker 2: armed with a gun and a Marine Corps saber on

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Speaker 2: his hip. Told deputies he was a Marine and there

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Speaker 2: were two dead men inside his house. They detained him

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Speaker 2: found two bodies along with two unharmed juveniles in the house.

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Speaker 2: During the interview, Hernandez told deputies one of the men,

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Speaker 2: who he believed was his friend, had been stalking him

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Speaker 2: and placing cameras in light fixtures. Hernandez told him he

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Speaker 2: was also hearing creepy voices coming from the vents and

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Speaker 2: these are his words and had been getting signs that

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Speaker 2: he had to end one of the men before he

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Speaker 2: ended him. Told deputies that he received quote an ENCRYPTID

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Speaker 2: message in a cockroach his words again that told him

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Speaker 2: he needed to kill one of the men. Said he

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Speaker 2: shot both of the men and went and got more

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Speaker 2: ammunition from his vehicle before shooting them again. Deputy said,

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Speaker 2: Hernandez told him the two juveniles saw him shoot the men,

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Speaker 2: and he was not going to take the kids or

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Speaker 2: do anything to them. Was it that son of Sam

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Speaker 2: who a dog told him to kill people? Speaking of

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Speaker 2: hidden cameras, this is creepy and you know this kind

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Speaker 2: of thing you have to think about these days. Chiropractor's

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Speaker 2: been accused of recording more than one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: patients with hidden cameras. Kane County State's Attorney's Office is Illinois,

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Speaker 2: said David Hanson, a chiropractor and owner of the Hanson

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Speaker 2: Family Chiropractic in Batavia, charged with multiple felonies, including producing

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Speaker 2: and disseminating child porn. What they say he recorded over

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty patients, including children and adults, while

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Speaker 2: they were undressing or unclothed. Reportedly, he used hidden cameras

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Speaker 2: place throughout his office. Authority stated discovered to Hanson possessed

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Speaker 2: and disseminated videos containing child sexual abuse materials unrelated to

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Speaker 2: his practice, home and office research November fifth, leading to

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Speaker 2: his arrest in charged with all kinds of counts producing

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Speaker 2: child porn, disseminating child porn, possessing child porn, unauthorized video

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Speaker 2: recording of a minor, threw slash under the clothes, all

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Speaker 2: of them felonies. During attention hearing, the court dean Hanson

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Speaker 2: a threat to the community in ordered him detained pending trial. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I guess he wasn't in Hamilton County then, apparently pretty

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Speaker 2: obvious that one perio is the biggest douche of the universe,

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Speaker 2: in all the galaxies. So there's no big a douche.

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Speaker 2: That's why I said, King County, Illinois, You've reached the top.

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Speaker 2: The pinnacle of douche does not to be confused with.

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Speaker 2: You could go and do the bapvia your times have true,

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Speaker 2: or as we jokingly used to refer to it as

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Speaker 2: BADAVI five fifty five coming up a five fifty six

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Speaker 2: fifty five carosity talk station. Well, this whole green revolution

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Speaker 2: is coming unglued and I told you so. And I

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Speaker 2: don't normally do that, but since I've been on the

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Speaker 2: show for coming up a twenty year, going into my

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Speaker 2: twentieth year next year, I've set it over and over

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Speaker 2: and over and over again. Global scam. Some details on

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Speaker 2: that coming up or your phone calls. Either way you

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Speaker 2: want to go and say, okay with me, but I'll

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Speaker 2: be back after the.

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Speaker 1: News Today's top headlines coming up at the topic.

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Speaker 9: But there's a certain pride and honor that comes with

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Speaker 9: being a veteran, honoring those who served and thanking them

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Speaker 9: for their sacrifices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just think much fifty five krs the talk station.

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Speaker 2: Six or six fifty five KR see the talk station

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas inviting funk calls five one three seven hundred

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Speaker 2: eight two three talk if you care to call. It

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Speaker 2: is Veterans Day, saluting the American veteran and please do

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Speaker 2: whatever you can to do so no veteran thank them

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Speaker 2: all of our freedoms and liberties to thank them for.

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Speaker 2: And we should take note of it, should be more

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Speaker 2: cognizant of it each and every day. They get a

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Speaker 2: big kick out of the calls in the last hour

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Speaker 2: about doctor Amy Acton and Governor Mike DeWine and the

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Speaker 2: shutdowns and the deprivations of our right to free assembly

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Speaker 2: and free exercise of religion, among other rights that were

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Speaker 2: completely violated as if we were under martial law. We all,

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Speaker 2: like sheep, consented to at least many people did some

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Speaker 2: well buck the trend. Turns out that everybody was bucking

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Speaker 2: the trend, and people were calling them conspiracy theorists and

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Speaker 2: crazies and loonies when they were making statements we all

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Speaker 2: now know are to be true, mask mandates and all

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Speaker 2: that vaccines prevent the disease spread, on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: So you can remember that when you're considering your choice

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Speaker 2: between doctor Amy Actin and V. V. Ramaswami here when

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Speaker 2: you vote for governor next year in the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 2: There I got it out of my as system. But

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Speaker 2: Happy Veterans Day to everyone and again and no to

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Speaker 2: my late father celebrating a heavenly birthday today. Anyhow, I

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Speaker 2: mentioned that I've been of the mind that this whole

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Speaker 2: global warming thing has been an epic scam from day one,

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Speaker 2: opportunity to control us and micromanage us, and it's stupid,

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Speaker 2: and I mentioned the Chinese all along about Well, wait

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Speaker 2: a second, how come the Chinese continue to build coal

647
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Speaker 2: plants and belch out all the carbon dioxide that they

648
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Speaker 2: care to belch out, including all the other pollutants that

649
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Speaker 2: go along with burning coal. Don't live by the rigorous

650
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: environmental standards that everybody else is self imposed, those environmental standards,

651
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: of course causing a real problem, a headache and a

652
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Speaker 2: lot of pain for people, notably in the European Union.

653
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Germany's economy is in the toilet, just as a parenthetical,

654
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Speaker 2: but there's developments on that as well. Anyway, the UN

655
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Speaker 2: Climate Doom COP thirty summit's going on right now this

656
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Speaker 2: week and all week in Brazil. Yay. Who's showing up?

657
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Speaker 2: Not a lot of people. Apparently it's only thirty one

658
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Speaker 2: heads of state out of one hundred and ninety eight

659
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Speaker 2: invited countries, thirty one heads of state, thirty one. Apparently

660
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: they're featuring the participation of eighteen presidents, eleven prime ministers.

661
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Speaker 2: Oh good. The Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Pietro Pearlin

662
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: is they're going to be there along with Swedish who's

663
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: the Swedish King? Joe Quick? Off the top of your head,

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Speaker 2: Carl the what is it the sixteenth King? Carl is

665
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Speaker 2: sixteenth Gustav He'll be there. Sure, it makes you feel

666
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: really good. That aside over to beorn Lumberg and spelling

667
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: it out like it is Today's Wall Street yesterday's Wall

668
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: Street journal manning the West gays in awe at China's

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Speaker 2: dominance and green energy churning out enough solar panels, wind turbines,

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Speaker 2: electric vehicles and batteries to flood global markets. It's true

671
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: that Beijing is pulled off at tremendous feet that should

672
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: have the West scrambling to alter its energy policy. But

673
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: the image of China as a renewable superpower is mostly propaganda.

674
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a little worked up over this one.

675
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: In reality, the country has dramatically scaled up energy use

676
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: across the board, bullying quote unquote green manufacturing with coal

677
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: expansion and grown rich in the process. Headline numbers on

678
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: green energy can be deceptive. China supplied thirty nine percent

679
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: of the two trillion dollars the world invested in green

680
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Speaker 2: energy in last year alone. US and European Union combined

681
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: supplied thirty four percent, But raw spending doesn't indicate investment quality.

682
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: The echo side of Chinese industry resembles the next iteration

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Speaker 2: of its recent property boom and bust, in which Beijing

684
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: funneled too much capital into construction until the current crisis

685
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: began around twenty twenty one. Since then, Chinese money's been

686
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Speaker 2: flowing into solar panels, creating overproduction and overcapacity. Chinese annual

687
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: solar production capacity now more than twice the actual global

688
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: solar panel sales in twenty twenty four. Piling them up,

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Speaker 2: I guess they are of the firms. The International Energy

690
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: Agency studied Every segment of the Chinese solar supply chain

691
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: suffered profit losses in every quarter last year, with the

692
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Speaker 2: margins reaching almost as low as a minus sixty percent

693
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: between them getting of twenty twenty four. In July of

694
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: this year, more than forty companies dlisted went bankrupt or

695
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: were sold. The industry cut a third of its workforce

696
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Speaker 2: last year, even running at a loss. This production depends

697
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: on massive coal use. Every Chinese silicone smelter and essential

698
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: solar panel material requires its own coal fired power station.

699
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: Investment is also pouring into electric cars. Automaking has become

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: an economic pillar for local governments, once reli on ample

701
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: land sales and real estate taxes of the previous property bubble,

702
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: The auto industry and related services now account for one

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Speaker 2: tenth of China's gross domestic product. Over Capacity is staggering.

704
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Speaker 2: The consultancy Alex Partners estimates that of the one hundred

705
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Speaker 2: and twenty nine current Chinese EV and hybrid brands, only

706
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Speaker 2: fifteen are going to be financially viable by twenty thirty.

707
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Speaker 2: Another seemingly eco friendly figures the Chinese consumers by nearly

708
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: two thirds of all evs sold globally, pushed by government

709
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Speaker 2: limits on traditional car purchases and lured by rock bottom

710
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Speaker 2: prices from surplus production. Yet this does little for the

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Speaker 2: climate Beasing's insistence on EV's is better explained by the

712
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Speaker 2: government's desire to avoid pendence on foreign oil. EV battery

713
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: packs are made using coal energy and charged on on

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Speaker 2: a coal dominated grid. A twenty thirty estimate published in

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Speaker 2: is Sigence shows that over its lifetime a Chinese EV

716
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Speaker 2: emits eighty five to ninety percent of the carbon of

717
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Speaker 2: a gasoline car, in large part because of the heavy

718
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: carbon debt incurred by the coal produced battery, and this

719
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 2: may be too optimistic, as many new buyers would otherwise

720
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Speaker 2: have bought a car, no car rather or a less

721
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Speaker 2: polluting hybrid. Moreover, Chinese evs are driven much less than

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Speaker 2: conventional cars, resulting higher emissions per mile. Electric cars also

723
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Speaker 2: increase Chinese air pollution. Twenty twenty four study in Nature

724
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Speaker 2: showed that while evs reduce nitrogen oxide emissions, a precursor

725
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: too smog, by one percent since twenty twenty, they have

726
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: increased far deadlier sulfur dioxide in particulate matter pollution by

727
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: ten to twenty percent, respectively. China's ev boom will increase

728
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: these emissions into the future, and without a fast green transition,

729
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: even CO two emissions could increase, according to a twenty

730
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Speaker 2: twenty five report in the journal Energy. While China added

731
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: an unprecedented solar and wind capacity last year, it also

732
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: hit a ten year high of new coal plant construction.

733
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Speaker 2: China remains the world's top coal consumer, with fossils supplying

734
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Speaker 2: over eighty seven percent of its primary energy renewables sharey

735
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Speaker 2: percent in nineteen seventy one, when the country was poor,

736
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Speaker 2: now down to seven It was down to seven point

737
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Speaker 2: five percent by twenty eleven. Hey go to the right direction,

738
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Speaker 2: aren't they. From twenty eleven to twenty twenty three, the

739
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Speaker 2: last year for which the IEA had data on China,

740
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Speaker 2: the portion of renewables rose slowly to only ten percent.

741
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Speaker 2: I love this fact. On this trajectory, a full transition

742
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: would take four hundred years. The IEA data also showed

743
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: China in twenty twenty three added more than five times

744
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: as much call energy as solar and wind energy. See

745
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: they're selling it to you, but you're not buyer. But

746
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: we're and we're buying it. They're not buying it. It's

747
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: a ruse, making them rich on the backs of our stupidity,

748
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Speaker 2: which they perpetuate online daily. Sorry that was me, not

749
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Jorn Lumbard. Back to Bjorn. Though China isn't a green giant,

750
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Speaker 2: Western climate campaigners think there are important lessons to learn

751
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: from it. China's across the board energy expansion has been

752
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: a huge boon to growth. The West, especially Europe, should

753
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: abandon its self imposed energy reflection restrictions and follow suit.

754
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: As part of its energy surch China has pushed rapid

755
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: investment into the only technology that currently can decarbonize the

756
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: planet at scale. You know what's coming nuclear fission and

757
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: fusion in the West tradition, nuclear has grown prohibitively expensive.

758
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: Ask yourself why US constructions construction costs tripling since the

759
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Speaker 2: mid nineteen eighties. America has brought bought only three new

760
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: plants online this century, at enormous costs and with timelines

761
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Speaker 2: of at least ten years. Compared to China, where reactors

762
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Speaker 2: are completed in five to six years and costs have

763
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Speaker 2: declined by half since the nineteen nineties, now matching US

764
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Speaker 2: mid nineteen seventies prices. Can't believe this. China has expanded

765
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Speaker 2: from three reactors in two thousand now to fifty eight,

766
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Speaker 2: with thirty three more under construction, forty three planned, and

767
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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty seven proposed. Globally, there are four

768
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight nuclear plants. Fourth generation reactors often

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Speaker 2: small and modular, the ones I always promote designed for efficiency, affordability,

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00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: minimal long lived radioactive waste, and inherent accident safety. The

771
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: report from the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation estimates China

772
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: leads the US by ten to fifteen years in the

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Speaker 2: ability to deploy fourth generation reactors at scale. The first

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Speaker 2: such reactor in the world began operations in China more

775
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: than a year ago. China's working on running all six

776
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: types of fourth generation reactors, not just one on fusion.

777
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: China dominates patents and has allocated more resources to research

778
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: than any other country. This isn't renewable reducts. It's a

779
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: race for abundant energy. If the West doesn't start running,

780
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: at risk awakening to a world powered by Beijing's reactors,

781
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: not its own ingenuity. Green China is mostly a sham,

782
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 2: but it is time for the West to emulate its

783
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: real playbook. Ramp up energy use and nuclear research and development. Amen,

784
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 2: Bjorn Lomberg. See this is why I told you so

785
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: a moment. I've been wailing about this for years and years.

786
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: China's doesn't do jack squad. They only perpetuate the myth

787
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: that your exhalation is killing the planet, forcing you you

788
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: to blindly follow carbon capture and carbon trading schemes and

789
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: well line the pockets of idiots like al Gore who've

790
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: been making millions and millions of dollars off this scam

791
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: now for the last twenty years. Wake up. I feel

792
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: better after that. Andrew Pappas your next six to seventeen

793
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: right now fifty five kres the talk station and I

794
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: for the first time this talk station six twenty two,

795
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: Happy Veterans Day. I'm going to go straight to the phones.

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Speaker 2: Have a former Anderson Township trustee, Drew Pappas on the phone.

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00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Mister Pappas, always a pleasure to hear from you, sir.

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Speaker 6: Mister Thomas. I guess we're being formal this morning. Good morning,

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Speaker 6: Oh why not? I love listen. First of all, I

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00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 6: loved that article you're in. I mean that that is

801
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 6: just so spot on, and you know, maybe maybe the

802
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 6: chanis are going to make up those losses on volume right.

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Speaker 2: I love when that's what they're doing. The evs. Yeah,

804
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: and you know what it it's just one of several

805
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 2: art that I wrote in my own handwriting on the top.

806
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: And then reality set in. We have an impossible situation

807
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: in New York. They passed the Climate Act and now

808
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: they find it is impossible to comply with their goals

809
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: for zero carbon emissions. And it's crazy because the current

810
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: lineup with the court decisions, they found themselves in an

811
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: impossible position. It's comical. And then you have Germany trying

812
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: to keep this green deep into this European Union, green energy,

813
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: zero carbon emission thing alive. And the only way it

814
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: works is with government subsidies. Price of energy in Germany

815
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: is like four times what the rest of the world,

816
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, seventy percent more than we pay for electricity.

817
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: The only reason it's being supported is because the taxpayers

818
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: are paying subsidies to the losing energy companies. So it's

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Speaker 2: just it's spiraling out of control and I'm just shoten Freud.

820
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: I'm just overwhelmed with it.

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Speaker 6: Sounds a lot like Obamacare. The issue is, first, what

822
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 6: I called about Amy acting because you mentioned something about her,

823
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 6: you were recounted. But I'll focus because I took my meds.

824
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Speaker 6: The simple fact matter is is that it's readily apparent

825
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 6: to anybody that has eyes and wants to see. Is

826
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Speaker 6: what the Chinese are doing is they're playing to the

827
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Speaker 6: environmentally wacko left here in this country and handicapping, handicapping

828
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Speaker 6: American energy by trying to convince us, if you just

829
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 6: buy our solar panels, you will be energy independent. And

830
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 6: the simple fact matter is that's not true. It had

831
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Speaker 6: we had an energy policy in this country focused on,

832
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 6: as you the modular nukes, nuclear energy, think of where

833
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 6: we would be if we had committed ten twenty years

834
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Speaker 6: ago to a truly renewable source of energy and clean

835
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Speaker 6: source of energy. As you say, and I agree with

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Speaker 6: the news being the future of power in this country.

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Speaker 6: I'm also really concerned about the proliferation of these data

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Speaker 6: centers that you see all over the place that are

839
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Speaker 6: being announced and sometimes even heralded, because if you do

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Speaker 6: any research on the amount of energy that these and

841
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 6: water that these data centers use, there is going to

842
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 6: you know, at some point those lines on the graph

843
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 6: will intersect, and the increased demand with limited capacity is

844
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 6: not going to end well for the American consumer unless

845
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 6: we really address the fundamental problem here, which is supply

846
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Speaker 6: and also are aging and really vulnerable infrastructure.

847
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Speaker 2: But for energy, you're right, but let's face reality, if

848
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Speaker 2: it weren't for artificial intelligence data centers, we probably wouldn't

849
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Speaker 2: even be able to be having the conversation about embracing

850
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: small modular reactors. It's only by virtue of the multi

851
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Speaker 2: billionaire individuals who run these corporations, and the corporations themselves

852
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Speaker 2: that are politicians will even consider getting a constant, efficient,

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Speaker 2: low waste, an abundant power supply, which is small modular

854
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: reactors or nuclear actors generally speaking. I mean, we could

855
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: clamor all day long and they would just ignore us

856
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: and say, no, we're not going to do that. Safety

857
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Speaker 2: three Mile Island all they're dangerous. Oh but wait a second,

858
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Speaker 2: as soon as the AI companies want them, then oh,

859
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Speaker 2: let's do that. And Trump is busily working to deregulate

860
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Speaker 2: a little bit to allow the more expeditious creation and

861
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: building of these plants, which is exactly what we need.

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00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 6: Pivoting back to Amy Acting and your comment on her,

863
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 6: just for a second, I will never forget I find

864
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 6: it humorous that the paper is now posting or least

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Speaker 6: sharing articles about how she's surging or at the tighter race.

866
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 6: And listen, I'll never forget the newspapers here locally gleef

867
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Speaker 6: reporting when I had a business here since sold it.

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00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 6: But you know they would gleefully report all if you

869
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Speaker 6: remember correctly, Amy Acton and her daily briefings on COVID

870
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Speaker 6: and your orders of the day, comrade. But you know,

871
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 6: God forbid you had a business that was snitched on

872
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 6: by the mask holes as I called them, that would

873
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 6: come in and say, how do you know trustee. Pappus's

874
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 6: business was cited for non mass compliance. Blah blah blah blah.

875
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 6: I mean, how many of those did we see in

876
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 6: the newspaper, and the newspaper would publicly try to shun

877
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 6: and you know, close down your business that was deemed

878
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 6: central by the government, so you really couldn't close it down,

879
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 6: per se. I gotta tell you, I will never forget

880
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 6: those days ever in my life. And it's a sad

881
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 6: chapter in American history that we, as you say, some people,

882
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 6: not all because I did go along with it, but

883
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 6: a lot of people did and just got in line

884
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 6: like sheep and believed everything about that COVID, our reaction

885
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 6: to COVID, and the government's overreach for COVID. It was

886
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 6: just a chapter that I will always associate with Amy Actin.

887
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 6: And if the voters of Ohio are so fundamentally forgetful

888
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 6: and just absolutely out of their minds and vote for

889
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 6: this buffoon, then you know, as as we always say,

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00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 6: elections have consequences, and sadly, I believe we're going to

891
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 6: experience those in the judicial system of Hamilton County here

892
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 6: in the coming few months, if not, you know, weeks, years.

893
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 6: I will tell you, then they deserve everything that's coming

894
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 6: to them, because Amy Actin is not a viable alternative,

895
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 6: not a viable choice for any leadership position. Given her

896
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 6: demonstration of what she did when she got even a

897
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 6: small bit of power, I shudder to think what would

898
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 6: happen if she was governor of this state.

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Speaker 2: Well, I firmly believe, and you know here I am

900
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: overstating the possibility, but I firmly believe there's no way

901
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: in hell that anybody forgot about Amy Acting and her

902
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: outrageous edicts. No king, aren't we in a no king's move?

903
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: Drew right, that's what we were doing. We didn't U,

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00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: We don't. We don't want people dictating what we can do.

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00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 3: It too soon?

906
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 6: Maybe you do the no kings? I mean, there's no queens.

907
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 6: I don't know how we have to. I don't know

908
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 6: how to to moderate that. I don't know what her

909
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 6: adjectives are.

910
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: That's a good fight, you know, I don't know what

911
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: pronouns she's using. Andrew Pappus, I appreciate your commentary as always,

912
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir for listening to the program six twenty nine.

913
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: Right now you can also comment. Love to hear from

914
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: you do us some local stories to dive on it,

915
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: or six thirty four fifty if I have care see

916
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: the talk station. I can only give you a couple

917
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: of snippets. Charlene Davis did an op ed piece in

918
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: the Cinsinnion inquire sins any dot com to read it.

919
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 2: Bondhill has promised homes, not another high density mistake. City

920
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: should withdraw a support for bait and switch development of

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00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: bond Hill. Jostrecker noted that the bond Hill voted eighty

922
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: five to one hundred percent for aftab per of all.

923
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: And then there's some commentary written here in Blue Ink

924
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: by I think Justrecker, which contained certain expltives. Let me

925
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: just read the first two paragraphs of this, and then

926
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Speaker 2: I'm going to encourage you to go read it yourself.

927
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: Because we saw this in Hyde Park. We saw the

928
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: voters and the constituents being completely ignored. Warned you about it,

929
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: had an opportunity to change the dynamic last Tuesday, but

930
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: you didn't. Charlie Rat you know, as a homeowner of the

931
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: villages of Dabake bron Hill, I know what it's like

932
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: to be ignored by the current city leadership. Since a

933
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 2: city Council not only voted through an unwanted and ill

934
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: considered development project in Bonhill, despite the loud objections of

935
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: the homeowners who live there, but also announced that the

936
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Speaker 2: Port of Greater Cincinnati Development Authority would be funding it.

937
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: Bonhill voices have been dismissed despite petitions, testimony before the

938
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Speaker 2: Planning Commission and City Council, and direct engagement with City fits.

939
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 2: This Council's decision to override this serious concern of bond

940
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: Hill residents and allow the poor authority to Port Authority

941
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: to allocate funds for this development is a travesty. We

942
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 2: are not opposed to development in Bondhill. Still, the current

943
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: development plan is a complete bait and switch from the

944
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: original two thousand and four Villages of Daybreak plan which

945
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: called for single family homes and condominiums. Benshi goes through

946
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: the entire process, obviously not thrilled with the current council

947
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: and the fact that they ignored the residents of Bondhill.

948
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh did I mention they went eighty five todd percent

949
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: after have parvol and the current council in the election.

950
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: Thanks Joe Strecker for keeping that Inquirer article on the

951
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: voter turnout and how people voted last Tuesday, six thirty six.

952
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: Right now, fifty five cars to the talks station fifty

953
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: five k see talks station coming up at seven o'clock

954
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: IRAS seven thirty. Specifically, Jeff Pastor is going to in studio,

955
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: of course PG. Sittenfeld looking to get his entire conviction

956
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: eradicate and get his forty thousand dollars back. Of course

957
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: PG Or. Rather Jeff Passer is also seeking a part,

958
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: and he'll be in studio tell his side of the story.

959
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: And it has been five years since his arrest. Should

960
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: be interesting inside scoop of Bright Barton News political editor

961
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Speaker 2: Bradley Ja. Yes, the end of the shutdown appears in sight.

962
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: Vote yesterday secured that, and of course the House has

963
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: been recalled. We should see the end of the shutdown

964
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: with it, probably by tomorrow if all these stars line.

965
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: Daniel Davis deep Dive. We'll hear from him at a

966
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Speaker 2: thirty former retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis on well situation

967
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: on the war, and then also Donald Trump's progress with

968
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: Syria yesterday who signed a declaration joining the United States

969
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: and its effort to eliminate ISIS and terrorism. Generally speaking,

970
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: that is something I never thought i'd see in my lifetime. Anyway,

971
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: back over to the reality hitting, Jorn Lumberg's column, which

972
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: I read earlier, points out what I've been pointing out

973
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: for years. The Chinese benefit immeasurably from the stirring the

974
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: pot of division and their stirring the propaganda of global

975
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: warming and CO two being the evil of the world.

976
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: Of course, the substance which is a naturally occurring part

977
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: of our atmosphere and plants live, thrive and survive on it.

978
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: But that's gonna kill us, and so you've been convinced

979
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 2: by the Chinese Communist Party. But that's the case. Plus,

980
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of evil people in the world that

981
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: want to micro manage you and control you and have

982
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: well total control over your lives by manipulating the electricity supply.

983
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: Ran new to a real problem with artificial intelligence coming out.

984
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 2: Now they have to capitulate and sort of concede that, Yeah, okay,

985
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 2: nuclear power is viable, it doesn't produce carbon dioxide, it's

986
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: not dangerous, and we don't have a waste problem any

987
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: war so anymore, so, we can't complain about three mile

988
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: island meltdowns and things like that. Chernobyl nuclear bad. No,

989
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: not anymore so. Having summarized your and Lumberg's article there again,

990
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: please read it. New York Climate law now has hit

991
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: the wall. This is hilarious. New York Governor Kathy Hokeel

992
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: now trying to undo their Climate Act. Why because nobody

993
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: can afford it, change the law or do the impossible,

994
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: which is exactly where they find themselves right now. Court

995
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: ruling that the Climate Act it's a law, no kidding.

996
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: The law calls for this is in the books. Forty

997
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: percent cut in New York's CO two and other so

998
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: called greenhouse gas emissions from nineteen ninety levels to achieve

999
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: this forty percent reduction by twenty thirty. This is a

1000
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen law that was passed. Oh my god, we're

1001
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: all going to die. State Department of Environmental Conservation in

1002
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: New York. It gave them until January twenty twenty four.

1003
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: This law that was passed in twenty nineteen to issue

1004
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: regulations that would ensure New York meets the binding greenhouse

1005
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: gas emission targets. So the laws pass, we must be

1006
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: at forty percent reduction by twenty thirty. You must issue

1007
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: regulations by January of last year to ensure that we

1008
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: meet these missions. That's what the law says. Ended up

1009
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: in court well, apparently the Department of Environmental Conservation has

1010
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: never issued REGs that were due by law last January.

1011
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: So some big green groups sued the State of New York. Apparently,

1012
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: the Department of Environmental Conservation explained in court that issuing

1013
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: the regulations was, in their word in the briefing, in

1014
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: infeasible because it would require imposing extraordinary and damaging costs

1015
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: upon New Yorkers. This is the very agency charge with

1016
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: issuing the regulations. Realizing that, no, we can't do this.

1017
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: Look see Germany. You want to end up like Germany.

1018
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: They didn't say that the brief, but just had to

1019
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: interject that because Germany itself is falling on some really

1020
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: hard times thanks to the so called carbon dioxide problem

1021
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: we have in the globe. Judge ruled that the law

1022
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: is the law and gave New York State two choices

1023
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: change the law or issue the regulations. The deadline to

1024
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: do so now February of next year, which give the

1025
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: legislature about one month to change the law. With the Christmas,

1026
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: Holidays and Hanek and everything fast approaching. Do you think

1027
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: that's going to happen? Probably not changing the law that

1028
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: was so overwhelmingly a poo have proved in an all

1029
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: blue state with a bunch of people who believe in

1030
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: this craft, that's going to be a little bit hard.

1031
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: So if the law isn't changed. The final regulations are

1032
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: due by February of next year, February six, specifically, let's

1033
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 2: presume that they're working on them now. But Hockel says

1034
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: they're going to appeal the decision. New York State legislature

1035
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: has has to already be looking at this apparently, especially

1036
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: given the rising energy costs with the election coming up

1037
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, it's going to be a big

1038
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 2: deal because New Yorkers and other people in the region

1039
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: are really, may I say, pissed off about the price

1040
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: of electricity. Fortunately, they're not paying as much as Germany,

1041
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: who's about ten steps ahead of everybody else in terms

1042
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: of pursuing or chasing their tail, trying to reduce carbon

1043
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: dioxide and ruining their economy at the same time. Apparently

1044
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: they're planning documents being prepared by the New York State

1045
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: electric power offices. But these plans make extensive use of

1046
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: what is described as a fiction called quote dispatchable emissions

1047
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: free resources d f RS, new term for me, but

1048
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: it goes back to my point on nuclear. Dfrs do

1049
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: not exist, accept nuclear which apparently the State of New

1050
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: York is not considering. So ultimately there really is no

1051
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: actual plan for meeting the climate laws deadline of twenty thirty,

1052
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: or even getting the regulations in place which will purport

1053
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: to meet that goal by twenty thirty by February sixth

1054
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: the next year. Why reality runs headlong into well, I

1055
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: would say fiction six forty six coming up at six

1056
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: forty seven fifty five KERR CEED talk station plumb type plumbing.

1057
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Speaker 2: It's always plumbing done right when you're dealing with my

1058
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Speaker 2: friends bear a C Lead talk station. At six fifty

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Speaker 2: one thift you have KERCD talk station continuing the six

1060
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: o'clock hour theme, which I obviously decided to go down

1061
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,959
Speaker 2: this road about all the failures of the green energy

1062
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: policies during Lumberg saw op ed peace in the Wall

1063
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: Street Journal worthy of a read, which is why I

1064
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: dove into it in the fart at the start of

1065
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: this of course, so I talked about New York fail.

1066
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: They can't even comply with their own Climate Act passed

1067
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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. Why because energy prices are going through

1068
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Speaker 2: the roof, you got an election coming up next year,

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Speaker 2: and apparently the regulations mandated by law, and of course,

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Speaker 2: as confirmed by a recent judicial decision, a law is

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Speaker 2: a law as a law, so you've got to comply

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Speaker 2: with it. Sucks to be you if you don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Changed the law that you passed, which they're going to

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Speaker 2: try to do. Over to Germany, they had a steel

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Speaker 2: summit last week on the sixth, addressing the crisis basing

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Speaker 2: the German steel industry. Brought together Chancellor of Friedrich Merg's government, ministers,

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Speaker 2: industry leaders, union representatives for the purpose of securing the

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Speaker 2: future of the steel sector by discussing energy costs, competition globally,

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Speaker 2: and their sad transition to climate friendly production. This guy

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Speaker 2: named Thomas Goldie who commented on this, he's a graduate

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Speaker 2: economist and he's kind of a libertarian kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: His philosophy focuses on individuals and their right to self determination.

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Speaker 2: Having a go at this one and revealing the stupidity

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Speaker 2: and the economic reality that this chasing one's tale in

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Speaker 2: the name of eliminating carbon dioxide has brought about. Germany's

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Speaker 2: economic crisis is accelerating sky high energy cost, relentless competition

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Speaker 2: from oh look, China and India who are still using coal,

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Speaker 2: and the ridiculous EU push for green steel laughable, which

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Speaker 2: he describes as a climate neutral variant no one demands

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Speaker 2: on the world market, which is in fact push companies

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Speaker 2: into insolvency or even out of the country. There are

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Speaker 2: other destinations for people to move to and countries to

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Speaker 2: relocate where things are saner. So for Germany's economic political solutions, well,

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Speaker 2: that means more subsidies. Not the elimination or the turning

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Speaker 2: in the back of these crazy things, but just more subsidies.

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Speaker 2: Subsidies equals the taxpayers paying for well others like energy

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Speaker 2: producers and steel producers, so they can continue to manufacture

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Speaker 2: their product and make it feel like they're still profitable,

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Speaker 2: taking away the pain by shouldering, by putting the pain

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Speaker 2: on the backs of all of the collective taxpayers so

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Speaker 2: called industry. Electricity price is the big problem, he wrote up.

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Speaker 2: Many energy intensive companies are already received partial relief i e.

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Speaker 2: Taxpayer funded subsidies, but it's not nearly enough for them

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Speaker 2: to remain competitive on an international scale. You're competing with

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Speaker 2: the globe here. And here's the fun fact on all

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Speaker 2: this Germany. German industry still pays up to seventy percent

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Speaker 2: more than the United States or French competitors, who it's noted,

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Speaker 2: benefit a lot from nuclear power. And with it, he

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Speaker 2: notes the obvious come job losses, shrinking value creation, and

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Speaker 2: for the first time, sharply declining municipal tax revenues. It's

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Speaker 2: hurting people even locally. Their Economics minister didn't provide a

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Speaker 2: specific budget, but indicated state electricity subsidies for energy intensive

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Speaker 2: industries like chemical producers, deal and paper producers could start

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Speaker 2: January of next year state electricity subsidies and of course

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Speaker 2: the taxpayers are going to the bill for this on

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Speaker 2: top of paying outrageous prices for electricity. It just keeps

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Speaker 2: getting more and more expensive because they refuse to wake

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Speaker 2: up to the cold, harsh dose to reality. China's working

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Speaker 2: a game on you. They're the ones that benefit from

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Speaker 2: all this. Yeah, going back to Biorn Lumberg's point, manufacturer

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Speaker 2: of the vast majority of the solar panels and the

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Speaker 2: windmills and everything else, but they're not using them. They're

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Speaker 2: building coal plants and all the stuff that they build,

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Speaker 2: the batteries, the solar panels, everything is built on the

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Speaker 2: backs of Yeah, they don't care about the pollution in China.

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Speaker 2: They aren't capturing their carbon with their coal plants. They're

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Speaker 2: just running them like they used to be in the

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Speaker 2: old days. Wow, look an abundant amount of electricity. We

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Speaker 2: can make ev batteries that will sell to the rest

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Speaker 2: of the world. In the name that they have to

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Speaker 2: get rid of carbon dioxide, even though we don't give

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Speaker 2: a crap about it. Six fifty five, I have care

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Speaker 2: see the talk station stick around more time. Between the

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Speaker 2: top of the air news and Jeffrey Pastor, who will

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Speaker 2: be in studio, we'll talk about his arrest and what's

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Speaker 2: going on in his life since then, and he's got

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Speaker 2: to be seeking a pardon like PG sitting Felds going after.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how much hope he's got for that one

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Speaker 2: that's at seven point thirty with Jeffrey Pastor. I hope

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Speaker 2: you can be there for that.

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Speaker 1: Today's top headlines got to.

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Speaker 3: Our verence little rat kwait for.

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Speaker 2: My rapt thank you.

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Speaker 10: I'd do it again if I could.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five krc the talk station.

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Speaker 2: Seven oh six The Many five KRCV talk Station, Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas welcoming phone calls. Got a little time before we

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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of the hour where Jeffrey past Or,

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Speaker 2: former counselmate. Pastor of course, involved in a bit of

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Speaker 2: a problem with the FBI sting, got arrested, spent some

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Speaker 2: time in the joint and he has been released. He's,

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Speaker 2: of course now as black PG Sittingfeld currently and seeking

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Speaker 2: a pardon as well as getting his forty thousand dollars back,

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Speaker 2: and no one seems to be objecting to that. So

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Speaker 2: it looks like that's in pg's future and may very

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Speaker 2: well be in Jeffrey Pastor's future. Jeffrey Pastor is going

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Speaker 2: to be in studio at the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 2: looking forward to having him back in inside Scoop at

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Speaker 2: bright Barton is fast forward an hour to eighth five.

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Speaker 2: Get Politics editor Bradley Jay about the end of the shutdown. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is fast approaching the end of the shutdown, maybe

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Speaker 2: as early as tomorrow. The House will be voting on it.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Speaker Johnson's called them all back, tell them

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Speaker 2: to get their butts back to DC, and notably hurry

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Speaker 2: up and do it because you may have a problem

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Speaker 2: getting an airplane. Perhaps that's one of the reasons we

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Speaker 2: now have a government that's reopening too much pain. As

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Speaker 2: I said the other day, I believe the mandate that

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Speaker 2: Snap must be paid ended the crisis for the people

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Speaker 2: who really, truly were facing a crisis, leaving the rest

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Speaker 2: of the world who can afford to fly someplace and

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Speaker 2: who have enough money to buy an airline ticket to

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Speaker 2: get from point A to point B over the holidays

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Speaker 2: or even today, a lot of business owners got disrupted.

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Speaker 2: Maybe even elected officials like representatives can't fly. Those are

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Speaker 2: powerful people who are irked and bothered. And of course

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they brought pest pressure down on the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: which of course caused them to end the lunacy. I

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Speaker 2: just think it's great, a great thing. Not that the

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Speaker 2: government is reopening, mind you, I feel sorry for people

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Speaker 2: who are hooked up to the aubilical court of government

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Speaker 2: to actually put food on their table. But it's nice

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Speaker 2: to see things now moving forward. And remember now that

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Speaker 2: the House has been called back, the recess is over

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Speaker 2: kind of looking forward to this. I'm a popcorn out

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Speaker 2: Epstein file vote the discharge petition thanks to Congressman Massie

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Speaker 2: who apparently has enough votes to advance that and get

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Speaker 2: a full vote on it, and there are enough votes

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Speaker 2: in the House to move that forward. What's going to happen?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking forward to finding out, though.

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Speaker 2: Bright Partners Political editor Bradley j at eight oh five.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned Daniel Davis Deep Dive at eight thirty,

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Speaker 2: we'll hear from my friend Steve from you say, insolation,

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Speaker 2: great product it is, especially since the temperatures have finally dropped.

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Speaker 2: Let us see here five and three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 2: fifty eight hundred two three talk. We'm gonna go to

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Speaker 2: fify five KRC dot com get you podcasts like, for example,

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Speaker 2: Christopher Smithman and the Smith Van Money Monday Brian James.

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Speaker 2: Always important information from those two guys, and your iHeartMedia

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Speaker 2: app right there as well. You know, I thought this

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Speaker 2: was rather interesting since I've been having to go at

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Speaker 2: all this nonsense and it looks like the global warming

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Speaker 2: thing is collapsing. The whole idea of carbon capture, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: We had the Biora Lumber article talking about how China

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Speaker 2: is obviously gaming the system to our disadvantage. How we

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Speaker 2: let them do that and never point out how China

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Speaker 2: is the one that is benefiting financially and not bothering

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Speaker 2: to lift a finger to reduce their emissions, building countless

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Speaker 2: new coal plants, and also headlong into nuclear power. They're

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Speaker 2: like ten to fifteen years ahead of us in terms

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Speaker 2: of nuclear power advancement. Why would we let the Chinese

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Speaker 2: Communist Party take advantage of that? Why would we try

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Speaker 2: to get rid of CEA when the Chinese Communist Party

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Speaker 2: is belching out more than we can even capture. That

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Speaker 2: was that great article about Australia. Australia still in this

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Speaker 2: zero carbon emission chase, China produces more carbon dioxide. I

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Speaker 2: think the figure was in eleven days. Then Australia removes

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Speaker 2: from the atmosphere in an entire calendar year. Do the

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Speaker 2: math on that one. But over at zero Hedge I

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Speaker 2: found this. You might want to follow that page or not.

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Speaker 2: I realized the bent had comes from. But there was

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Speaker 2: a post by Chris Macintosh and talking about the Hidden

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Speaker 2: World War, and I read this in the context of

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Speaker 2: the propaganda being peddled by the CCP. They dominate social media.

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Speaker 2: I mean, TikTok, what are the biggest social media platforms

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Speaker 2: alive still owned by the Chinese Communist Party. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: still working on resolving that one. I think they found

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Speaker 2: some maybe neutral, non Chinese Communist Party owner, But I

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Speaker 2: mean they're working this system. They got their AI programs

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Speaker 2: that manipulate and spit out countless well. Foe propaganda tweets,

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Speaker 2: whether it's something in opposition to what you say, or

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Speaker 2: to support this idea that we're all gonna die a

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Speaker 2: la al Gore about two decades ago, note that we haven't.

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Speaker 2: But he talks about the hidden world war. He says,

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Speaker 2: World War three is already underway. Most people don't see

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Speaker 2: it because we all believe war to be the dropping

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Speaker 2: of bombs right Ukraine Russia situation, frontline people shooting at

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Speaker 2: each other, bombs being dropped, and that's not wars being

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Speaker 2: that's not the way the war's being waged these days.

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Speaker 2: He points out modern warfare and this covert warfare that

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Speaker 2: we are knee deep in, whether you're aware of it

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Speaker 2: or not. People no longer see actual fighting as noble

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Speaker 2: or necessary. US, public support is evaporated for actual armed

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Speaker 2: con conflict because people don't trust politicians. The division is

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Speaker 2: so entrenched now that people won't even be proud or

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Speaker 2: can't believe. They can't be proud of their own country.

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Speaker 2: Like here in the United States. You know, we were

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Speaker 2: a board of original sin. We need to tear it

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Speaker 2: all down, We need to bring out something else. Why

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Speaker 2: because well, our founding fathers were racist or something in

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Speaker 2: spite of the fact the words they wrote apply equally

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Speaker 2: to all. And thankfully we moved along those lines, and

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Speaker 2: now we have equal application of the laws, even though

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Speaker 2: we didn't when the country was founded. I'll acknowledge that.

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Speaker 2: But who has a better system of government in the

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Speaker 2: world than the United States? Why do you think every man, woman,

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Speaker 2: and child and the planet that wants to leave their

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Speaker 2: country wants to come here anyway? So you consider traditional warfare,

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Speaker 2: and then you talk about modern warfare, and here's he

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Speaker 2: outlines his arsenal, and I thought this was very astute.

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Speaker 2: Start with information warfare, cyber attacks, which are always going on.

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Speaker 2: Who's waging cyber attacks on our infrastructure?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know the answer to that, that that question, disinformation

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Speaker 2: campaigns flooding people with conflicting information to create confusion and

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Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance. Moving over economic weapons, sanctions, cryptocurrency manipulation, making

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Speaker 2: populations dependent on controlled resources. I immediately think of energy,

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Speaker 2: since that was dominate part of my dominant part of

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Speaker 2: my conversation in the last hour. Political subversion, election interference,

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Speaker 2: undermining government legitimacy, bribing officials and influencers that undermining government legitimacy.

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Speaker 2: I am part of that. And why do I undermine

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Speaker 2: government legitimacy because they do illegitimate things. Therein lies the problem.

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Speaker 2: This is why I hate having to have a go

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Speaker 2: at the FBI and the Department of Justice and other

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Speaker 2: federal entities which we used to hold up in such

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Speaker 2: high level of esteem. Then we find out that they

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Speaker 2: were actually weaponized against a sting president, a sitting president,

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Speaker 2: lying in courts, the fies of courts. We had actual

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Speaker 2: FBI folks in there lying. We find more and more

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01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: information about Art Dick Frost Hell, everybody his brother was

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: all lined up to undermine Donald Trump and to keep

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Speaker 2: him from getting elected. Lies, lies, lies, steal dossier for example,

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01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: see why would I trust this government? Right? A desired

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: effect brought about by the actions of our politicians. Then

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01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: there's ssyops psychological operations creating crises and then positioning themselves

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Speaker 2: as the savior. Immediately coming to mind, CO two, Oh

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01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: my god, we're all gonna die. CO two is a pollutant. No,

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Speaker 2: it isn't, it's a naturally occurring phenomenon in his plant food.

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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen might pop up since we talked about that

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: earlier day. You can vote for Amy Acting. Let's stop

1291
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: drinking at ten pm, but you don't have to leave

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01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: the bar Amy actin shutting down businesses and industry. We

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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: heard from Drew Pappas earlier. He had to sell his

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: dry cleaning business. He got docks because he didn't force

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01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: people to wear masks, masks that we finally learned didn't work.

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01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: Crisis wear a mask. Exploiting social media platforms that control

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: public discourse now immediately, China might come to mind, because

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01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: they do it all the time. But what about the

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: Biden administration putting FBI agents inside Facebook and other social

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 2: media platforms to prevent you from saying what you wanted

1301
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,440
Speaker 2: to say? In a country that's supposed to well acknowledge

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: and allow for free speech, even hate speech is protected,

1303
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: but you're saying something about a mask not doing a

1304
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: damn thing during COVID nineteen to get eliminated from social media.

1305
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 2: Why well, because they controlled public discourse on platforms like Facebook,

1306
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: Biological and resource warfare, famine deprivation disguised as natural events,

1307
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: and throw in the COVID nineteen created in a lab

1308
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: in Wuhan, released on the globe. It was an accident, right,

1309
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 2: and then social manipulation by the fueling of ideal divides

1310
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: targeting masculinity to prevent resistance. And I was happy to see.

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: In addition to maybe people finally waking up to the nonsense,

1312
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: it is carbon capture. The International Olympic Committee set is

1313
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: set to ban men identifying as women from all female

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01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: Olympic sporting events, according to The Times UK and the

1315
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: International Olympic Committee preparing to announce it early next year.

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 2: Sorry guys, ye can't be a woman effectively what that means? See,

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01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: and that was a point of division in this country

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: for a long time. We're still arguing about it. You

1319
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: got male genitalia floating around your ten year old daughter

1320
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: in a locker room, is that right?

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Speaker 11: You know?

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01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: Rewind before all this crap hit the fan. Nobody in

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 2: his right mind would have ever even suggested that they

1324
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: would have been laughed out of the room or otherwise

1325
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: maybe subjected to some psychological evaluation, because you know what,

1326
01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: guys can't be women. But when you lay at all

1327
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: like that, And then he outlines the symptoms fast forwarding

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01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 2: in the article loss of hope and inability to plan

1329
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: for the future. He calls these classic wartime symptoms that

1330
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: many people, probably in major global conflicts like World War Two,

1331
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: for example, felt every single day because an actual shooting

1332
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: war was waging. Widespread dread, numbness, a sense of unreality,

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: increased nationalism in US and them thinking fear of government authority,

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: figures financial stress from inflation, young people well, not starting families. Well,

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01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: and I think of that one. Well, we've decided that

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: human population, at least the global alarmists, we're all a

1337
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: bunch of cockroaches. We shouldn't even be here. Don't bring

1338
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 2: a kid into this world. They're just going to cause

1339
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: the more the quicker elimination of the globe itself because

1340
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: they exhale, they consume, they produce carbon, feeling like dangers everywhere,

1341
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: limiting news consumption, due to overwhelming negativity. Yeah, you shy

1342
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: away from the news, and think about the local election

1343
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 2: last week. One out of every four voters showed up

1344
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: and voted. Christopher Smith Haman pointed out over and over

1345
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 2: on this program and elsewhere, going door to door a

1346
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: week before the election, he's met with person after person

1347
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 2: after person who didn't even know there was an election

1348
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: that last Tuesday. You think they might have been limiting

1349
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 2: their news consumption, perhaps due to the negativity on the news.

1350
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they're not consuming it at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure social media has something to do with that.

1352
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: There's only so many hours of the day. I got

1353
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: a Netflix binge to go on. I'm not gonna bother

1354
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 2: reading about the news escalating protests and the attendant militarized

1355
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: police response. And I've even said this about Donald Trump.

1356
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: You know, you may think it's a great idea of

1357
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 2: sending troops into the cities to help restore order. It

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01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 2: is a valid use of federal authority to protect federal property,

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 2: So they have a right to be there to protect

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: federal assets that local police aren't doing. But when you

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: become aware of and used to the federalized presence of

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01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: law enforcement in your neighborhood. It makes it a little

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01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: bit more easy to transition over to martial law now,

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: doesn't it People fleeing their countries or considering it, or

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01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: in the case of the United States, where we have

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: the freedom of travel, people fleeing their cities because well,

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01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: they woke up and realized their city is now run

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Speaker 2: by a kami. Fear of speaking out or losing rights. Yeah,

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01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: you're worried about being docs. Oh my god, I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to say what's on my mind. Somebody on social

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01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: media might criticize me. Yeah, you know what, good Why

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 2: don't you take the position like I do? I don't care.

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01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 2: I believe in something strongly enough that I want to

1374
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: put it down in a post and put it out there.

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: It means because I've thought about it, I can defend it,

1376
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 2: and I might draw ire as a consequence of it.

1377
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: But you know what, I don't care. You know, and

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01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: the list goes on. But it's it's very insightful, and

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: it gave me a fonder appreciation of something that I

1380
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 2: was already aware of. That this stuff is going on

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01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: right now, real time, all the time. Are in the

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 2: middle of a literal global war for the hearts and

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: minds of the masses, and I'll take freedom and liberty

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01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: over whatever they're selling all day long, seven nineteen right now,

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01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: code in seven to twenty, feel free to call. I

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01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 2: got a couple of minutes before Jeffrey Pastor is in studio,

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01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: and certainly oder exit won't eliminate seven twenty four fifty

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Speaker 2: bout krocity talkination. Thank you, Maureen, what I was describing

1389
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: fifth generation warfare? Of course you knew the name of it.

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Speaker 2: It's go to the phones car real quick.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: You got about a moment's time. Give us your point.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, okay quick.

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Speaker 12: Publics announcement regarding the snap payments and everything. Hopefully the

1395
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 12: government will be opening up here and people will receive

1396
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 12: their snap payments. However, if somebody is food insecure right now,

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Speaker 12: they can go to the Cincinnati Public Cincinnati Hamilton County

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Speaker 12: Public Library and look at food resources page there. Their

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Speaker 12: website is CCHPL dot org. Some of the libraries have

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Speaker 12: meals or snacks for students after school. The website is

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01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 12: CHPL dot org forwit slash meals. Students between the age

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01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 12: of one to eighteen can eat the food of the

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01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 12: Library students who are between the ages of nineteen twenty

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01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 12: one who have mental and physical disabilities are eligible for food.

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Speaker 13: If you go to that website and go to the

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Speaker 13: blue box, click on food resources, scroll down, they will

1407
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 13: have a list of soup kitchens, afternoon meals, and also

1408
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 13: food pantries. It says the forty two thousand children in

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01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 13: Hamilton County are food insecure.

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: Carl, I appreciate you looking after the food insecuring these

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01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,839
Speaker 2: times of need. CHPL dot orgs apparently the website appreciate

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01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: you chiming in on that passing along the information. Seven

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Speaker 2: twenty five Jeffrey past seven twenty nine, On a Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: and Happy Tuesday to you Veterans Day. Let's remember the

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: American veteran and thank each and every one of them

1416
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: you encounter day and throughout the years. I always try

1417
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 2: to do salute the American veteran in again and to

1418
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 2: my late father. Today is his birthday, So happy heavenly

1419
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: birthday to my dad. Still miss him, of course I

1420
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: always will. And someone I haven't seen in quite a

1421
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: few years in studio, former counselman Jeffrey Pastor, Jeffrey Man,

1422
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: it is good to see you today. I've inspired of

1423
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: everything that happens. It's you know, I wish you well

1424
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: in the future, and I'll probably say something to that effect,

1425
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 2: and we'll find out where you're planning what you're planning

1426
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: on doing in the future. But of course you went

1427
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: through a few legal challenges. FBI sets you up, and you,

1428
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 2: of course were you had to plead guilty to accepting

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01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 2: some money in return for favors. Thinking like PG sitting

1430
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 2: fell right and PG is I believe it was yesterday,

1431
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: has asked the Department of Justice, actually asked the US

1432
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,959
Speaker 2: Supreme Court to throw out his convictions, and apparently local prosecures.

1433
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: Everybody's now saying, just get rid of it. He got

1434
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 2: his pardon from Donald Trump, Let's give him his forty

1435
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,799
Speaker 2: thousand dollars back, and everybody, let's move on with our lives.

1436
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 2: That's where PG finds himself today. And I presume sincerity

1437
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: is aligned on that side of the relief that's being requested.

1438
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: No one's standing in opposition to it. He's gonna get

1439
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 2: what he wants, and I imagine that's what you're looking

1440
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: for as well. It's good to have the end.

1441
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Speaker 14: Jeffrey Pastor, Well, thank you, Brian for having me again.

1442
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 14: Happy Birthday to your dad.

1443
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1444
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 11: Happy Veterans Day.

1445
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 14: You know, I served in the United States military, lest

1446
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 14: the listeners forgot, so all the veterans who have served,

1447
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 14: Happy Veterans Day to them.

1448
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 11: And to your point, I'm happy for PG. I believe

1449
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 11: it's the right move.

1450
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 14: And of course I also on the news as you saw,

1451
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 14: Yes they do on Chill nine. I am up for

1452
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 14: a part and I requested a part in that sort

1453
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 14: of thing. Part two will come out tonight and my

1454
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 14: thoughts about the City of Cincinnati. But you know, you know,

1455
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 14: we're not here to relitigate the past. It is what

1456
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 14: I try to tell people now that I'm out. You know,

1457
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 14: I've stayed in you know, relative silence for up until yesterday,

1458
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 14: five years ago to the day that you know, the

1459
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 14: FEDS picked me up. And so you know, American's built

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01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 14: on redemptious stories. You know, you can't judge a person

1461
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 14: based off their ashes, and you know, for what it

1462
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 14: is worth, you know, like PG and like others, I've

1463
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 14: never been in trouble with the law until I got

1464
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 14: elected to city council.

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01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 11: So you know, I've apologized for my mistakes.

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01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 14: I've served by time at the federal prison camp down

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01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 14: there at Ashland. Terrible, terrible time to be away from

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 14: my family. Never been away from my family in my

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01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 14: entire life. And so for my wife to have to

1470
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 14: endure that, for the city of Cincinnati to have to

1471
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 14: endure that, you know, it was time for me to

1472
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 14: take responsibility. But that's not where the story is. You know,

1473
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 14: it's about resilience. You know, it's about redemption. It's about

1474
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 14: all of these things. And if you look at America,

1475
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 14: you know the president, President Donald Trump exemplifies resilience.

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01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 11: You know JD.

1477
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 14: Vance and his upbringing, resilience, Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X, you

1478
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 14: know what I mean. You got stories after stories about

1479
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 14: people who have come back from from the failure or

1480
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 14: from you know, very challenging times, and that sort of

1481
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 14: thing is so well even, wasn't it.

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01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 2: John from the Bible was a murderer at one point

1483
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: before meeting Jesus. I seemed to recall that story. No

1484
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: theologian in mind.

1485
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 11: So you're pulling on my master's divinity.

1486
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 14: It was actually Paul of Tarsus, and he murdered the

1487
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 14: Christians and they knocked him off his ass The donkey

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 14: as he was on the road for three days and

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Speaker 14: they blatted him. You could say that my Paul of

1490
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 14: Tarzan's woman has been five years in the bacon. So

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Speaker 14: I feel like I'm closer to being a good leader

1492
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 14: as with my feelings, as opposed to just having you know,

1493
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 14: this sanitized you know person that you have. And that's

1494
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 14: that's one of the reasons why I appreciate the current

1495
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 14: political context, because you're.

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01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 11: Seeing art flaws.

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Speaker 14: I mean, the Tony Blair, the former Prime Minister of England,

1498
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 14: said that Americans have to get used to seeing their

1499
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 14: leaders flaws.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's one of the things about social media. Dude,

1501
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: if you did it, I don't care how many years

1502
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: ago anymore, someone's got a copy of it. It's gonna

1503
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: post it. So you can't hide from your past.

1504
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 11: Absolutely absolutely not.

1505
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm not even here among us is sin free, you know.

1506
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 11: And nobody.

1507
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 14: I mean, it's it would seem to me that, you know,

1508
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 14: I don't want to, you know, bring race or anything

1509
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 14: to it, but it seems like when you come from

1510
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 14: a certain class, will you make a mistake, That mistake

1511
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 14: is for life, right, you can't make mistakes, and a

1512
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 14: mistake doesn't necessarily assume intent. You know, I say, I

1513
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 14: made a mistake, I said, but my attention was never

1514
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,879
Speaker 14: to be corrupt, you know, And so you know that's

1515
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 14: just where I stayd today. I can't tell people how

1516
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 14: to feel about me. It's not even me trying to

1517
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 14: convince the folks. It's just saying, like, hey, this is

1518
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 14: what happens when you are out there doing good for

1519
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 14: your people.

1520
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you invite a microscope when you

1521
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: pursue office period and the story absolutely, Like you know,

1522
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: if you accept a position on a board of directors

1523
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 2: at some company, people are going to be paying very

1524
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 2: very close attention to your decisions, your actions, and you know,

1525
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: people might draw some conclusions about you simply based upon

1526
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 2: the company you're working for. But that's something you go

1527
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: in eyes wide open.

1528
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 14: Absolutely absolutely, and like I said, you know, my attentions

1529
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 14: was never you know, you know I was. I got

1530
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 14: on counsel and immediately investigated. Shortly thereafter my you know,

1531
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 14: you talk about the community benefits agreement that you made

1532
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 14: with f C Cincinnati. You talk about all of the

1533
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 14: businesses that flourished while I was there, And mind you,

1534
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 14: if I wouldn't have been there, none of this would

1535
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 14: have happened. You know, you talk about five four votes,

1536
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 14: you're talking about ff C Cincinnati, you're talking about the

1537
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 14: largest gun course in the state of Ohio, free by

1538
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 14: the way, And so you're going to just be based

1539
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 14: off on a mistake, and that's that's the choice. All

1540
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 14: I'm simply saying is is that it was probably one

1541
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 14: of the most formative experiences to have experienced this after

1542
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 14: five years, to watch me be ripped away from my

1543
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 14: family because of a mistake that I made.

1544
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 2: You know, I want to dive a little bit into

1545
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: that because I know, I mean, there may be people

1546
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: screaming at the radio, going, oh, Jeffrey past or crimea

1547
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: or whatever am I supposed to forgive you or whatever.

1548
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: But the realities of what you experience and maybe the

1549
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 2: lessons that can be learned from what you experience, I

1550
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: think are important. Obviously it's important to you and on

1551
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 2: your path to the future. You're saying I learned a lesson.

1552
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 2: I know, I serve my time, I did what was

1553
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 2: demanded of me. There's no way in hell I could

1554
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 2: go down that road again. But it's a road that

1555
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: you went down, and I want to find out what

1556
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 2: that meant to you and your family, what was life

1557
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: like in the prison you were in? And I also

1558
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: sure as heck want to know what Jeffrey Pastor has

1559
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: in mind for the future. Seven thirty six right now

1560
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: more with Jeffrey Pastor. First Station Bride time with Jeffrey Pastor.

1561
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 2: He and I just catching up to break it's been

1562
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: so long since we've seen each other, former counselman Pastor.

1563
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,799
Speaker 2: And of course I think everything in my listening audience

1564
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 2: remembers that he was subject to a federal prosecution. He

1565
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: did plead guilty to one kind of honest services wire fraud,

1566
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: and they accused him of doing a lot more than that.

1567
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,799
Speaker 2: But he pled guilty to that two year prison sentence

1568
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:47,839
Speaker 2: in Ashland, Kentucky. And you were released early good behavior

1569
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: release and you were able to Is it kind of

1570
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 2: a parole situation you were on at the beginning of

1571
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 2: this year.

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01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 14: Well, it's actually called the First Step Act, oh okay,

1573
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 14: and it was signed into law back president President Trump.

1574
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 14: And so they give you is a calculation and so

1575
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 14: you get so many days off fifteen days off for

1576
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 14: every month that you do or something like that. So

1577
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 14: a lot of us were able to enjoy that being

1578
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 14: cited into law and getting out first time.

1579
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: Great, And you say a lot of us, you in fact,

1580
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: were in the same prison as PG sitting felt. Did

1581
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: you guys interact?

1582
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 11: Oh yes, yes. I talked about it yesterday.

1583
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 14: On Channel nine with Paula Christian be a second part today,

1584
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 14: great interview with her, by the way, and I said that,

1585
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 14: you know, I do credit him with with showing me

1586
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 14: what it means to be a human. I do credit

1587
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 14: him with that started that redemptive process. As you know,

1588
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 14: you know, I was having some very serious issues in

1589
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 14: terms of my belief you know, or my practice. So

1590
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 14: I was able to find that spiritual practice that was authentic,

1591
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 14: that was unique, that didn't require approval from anyone else.

1592
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 11: You know, I had a connection. And I'll you know again.

1593
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 14: Paul of Tars's you know, had the same moment, and

1594
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 14: I would like to say that I did more had

1595
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 14: the same moment. And and to your listeners, I want

1596
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 14: to mention this to them as well. Remember Abraham lied

1597
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 14: about his wife, right, I mean, these great figures have

1598
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 14: made mistakes, So those was that was not to get

1599
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 14: too spiritual religious and all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're making your case for those in

1601
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: the audience to go on crimea River pastor, right. I mean, yeah,

1602
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: you know, we all have to acknowledge these things. And

1603
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 2: you know, whatever happened happened. Here we are today and

1604
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 2: you've got a new life to live. And you know,

1605
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 2: I'm glad to find out that PG was a bit

1606
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 2: of a counselor for you. I mean, I have a

1607
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 2: lot more respect for him along those lines. Of course,

1608
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 2: you guys are struggling through the same kind of process,

1609
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: but that he was able to help you in terms

1610
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 2: of your spiritual connection, I think that's kind of a

1611
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: nice thing.

1612
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 11: Well. Absolutely, I mean when you get there, you're stripped

1613
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 11: of everything.

1614
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 14: You know, there's no counselman pastor, there's no uh, you know,

1615
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 14: counselman PG. Sittenfield, next mayor and all those sort of things.

1616
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 14: I mean, you're really stripped a bear. And that's a

1617
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 14: good thing, you know, because you really find out who

1618
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 14: you really are. And so that's why it was important

1619
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 14: to me, because you know, he wasn't counselman PG. Sidenfield,

1620
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 14: you know what I mean, he wasn't that. He was

1621
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 14: just a man just like me in a green uniform.

1622
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 14: He's a guy, you know, he's he's he's he's a guy,

1623
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 14: you know. And and and I don't think that my

1624
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 14: conversation with you today, Brian, has anything to do with

1625
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 14: trying to get sympathy from the folks. What you're seeing

1626
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 14: as an authentic leader, it's the same authentic leader that

1627
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 14: you that some supported President Donald Trump, some supported President Clinton,

1628
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 14: some supported President Ronald Reagan. All these men have had

1629
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 14: public you know, fights that they've lost, that they've won,

1630
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 14: and that sort of thing.

1631
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 11: I'm no different, you know.

1632
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 14: And the same forgiveness that that folks have provided President Trump,

1633
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 14: and the same forgiveness that folks provided Peter for snitching

1634
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 14: on Jesus.

1635
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 11: It's the same same.

1636
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 14: It's the same compassion that I think that people have

1637
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 14: to have to have to find in themselves, all right.

1638
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 2: To that end, and because record of the break a

1639
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 2: continue to come back. Yeah, are you feeling that sense

1640
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 2: of forgiveness since you got out, since you started going

1641
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: back interacting with people? And I'm just not talking about

1642
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: your family members, but I'm talking about you know, folks

1643
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 2: interact with the public like me or anybody else. You

1644
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 2: walk in the street, Hey, you, Jeffrey Pastor, are you

1645
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: hearing it? From them that they're like, Okay, we know

1646
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 2: what you've been through, but we're willing to move forward

1647
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: and forgive you for your sins.

1648
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 14: Absolutely, of course I do like hearing, you know, I

1649
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 14: think people need to be reintroduced where I am. I

1650
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 14: do like the the opposing forces too, because it helps

1651
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 14: see how far i'f come when I used to you know,

1652
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 14: hang on to every opinion and every word. One thing

1653
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 14: that I don't interact with, though, is I don't interact

1654
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 14: with people who were used because they got jammed up

1655
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 14: to jam up other people, you know, in the in

1656
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 14: the camp, whether you it was a you know, Republican

1657
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 14: congressman there their Republican, other Republican and Democrat council members.

1658
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 14: One thing that is universal that I've always preached is

1659
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 14: that typically there's a universal languages that snitches who have

1660
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 14: gotten themselves into some trouble and did want to go

1661
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 14: and take down other people. You know, that's a problem.

1662
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 14: That's a hood principle. That's a principle that is employed

1663
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 14: by the police. That's the principal employed by the teacher

1664
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 14: unions and all these other things. So you wouldn't you

1665
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 14: don't see me being okay, with with with with with

1666
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 14: that behavior. You also those being okay with people who

1667
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 14: look like me, people who are Republicans, and all these

1668
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 14: other things. The vast number of people who are actually

1669
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 14: working makeing careers out out of out of this sort

1670
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 14: of thing, you know. And so I that's one thing

1671
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 14: that I've had to heal from because I had a

1672
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 14: deep sense of hatred and that some thing, not that

1673
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 14: you're doing anything wrong, but you know, I didn't respect.

1674
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 14: I would say the power of just how powerful the

1675
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 14: Department of Justice is.

1676
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 2: You know, that they could create a fake scenario and

1677
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 2: lure you into it. Absolutely, Entrapment is a word that

1678
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 2: immediately comes to mind. Of course, that's a defense of

1679
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 2: this kind of thing, and they're always walking that fine

1680
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: line between entrapment as well as some you know, reasonable

1681
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 2: law enforcement. My big concern about law enforcement is when

1682
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 2: they go on a fishing expedition to create a situation

1683
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 2: where they then invite someone to enter into criminal activity

1684
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: when they haven't already probable cause to believe that person

1685
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 2: is inclined to or is engaged in criminal activity. We're

1686
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 2: all subject to the possibility of that in this crazy

1687
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 2: world in which we find ourselves. I have a lot

1688
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 2: of agreement with you along those lines. Jeffrey Pastor, let's pause.

1689
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: We're bringing back for one more something you want to

1690
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 2: give out a carosite talk station Brian time with Jeffrey

1691
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Pastoring Studio. It's out. He's a free man. He knows

1692
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 2: what it's like to be incarcetrated in a federal prison

1693
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: in Nashlal, Kentucky with PG sitting found. I'm gonna ask you,

1694
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: I'd like to think my wife would not leave me.

1695
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: I suppose it would be it would be determined to

1696
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 2: on the underlying crime. Now, if I committed some kind

1697
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: of heinous crime less than children or whatever, she got

1698
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: out the door, pack back gone. But we do love

1699
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 2: each other, Yeah, and we do have a strong commitment

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Speaker 2: with I've been married for a long time. How did

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01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 2: you deal with you you're together with your wife. She

1702
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 2: stuck with you through the whole situation, and you know,

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01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 2: at one point, I suppose you could argue that you

1704
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 2: could have been facing seven years in prison yes copp

1705
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 2: to plate and got the yes that kept you know,

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01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 2: shorter period of time away from your family. How'd you

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01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 2: cope with that aspect and how'd you work through the

1708
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 2: relationship is and I'm glad to see the things stay

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01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 2: together with you.

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Speaker 14: Thank you for asking the question. My wife is the

1711
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 14: most important person in my life. You know what I'm saying.

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01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: I see it in your eyes.

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01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 11: I walked on.

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01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:19,719
Speaker 14: That Ashland campus to other politicians who were serving time

1715
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 14: and their wives left them. But not only did she

1716
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 14: stay by, but she took care of my children, our children.

1717
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 14: She had to go through this very difficult process, you know,

1718
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 14: obliterated our finances and that sort of thing. So for me,

1719
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 14: I had to do it for her, and then I

1720
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 14: had to do it for my children. I've never spent

1721
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 14: one day say what you want to say about me,

1722
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 14: say about what you want to say about the mistake.

1723
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 11: I don't give a damn.

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01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 14: What matters to me most is that my wife and

1725
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 14: my six children, and they were able to thrive because

1726
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 14: of her, and because of the village that surrounded themselves

1727
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 14: around us, the benevolence from you know, our close family

1728
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 14: and friends and that sort of thing. And it's something

1729
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 14: that was denied to a lot of people where I

1730
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 14: was at, and that gave me even more purpose things.

1731
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 14: Shout out to PG Sittingfield again, because I was able

1732
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 14: to see that my situation when it's bad. There's a

1733
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 14: cop right now, And I said I would mention this

1734
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 14: when I got out. There's a cop right now. He's white.

1735
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 14: Let's cut to the chase. He's serving thirty years. He

1736
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 14: already served twenty for marijuana. Man, and his daughter died

1737
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 14: while he was in prison. You understand what I'm saying,

1738
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 14: you need for weed. And because he had a gun

1739
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 14: but he never used a gun. You should I have said,

1740
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 14: these are the type of ridiculous things that are going on,

1741
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 14: ghost dope, conspiracies and all these other things. And for

1742
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 14: me to be there for twenty four months with a

1743
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 14: wife and with my six children who are supportive of me,

1744
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 14: and to watch them lose children and lose their wives.

1745
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 2: Man, I have nothing to be sad about. How mucha

1746
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: sit in the corner. Shut my mouth. There's a lot

1747
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 2: of people that have it a lot worse than me.

1748
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 2: That's a great philosophy of life to love by an

1749
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 2: absolutely like you didn't know I had got cancer diagnosis.

1750
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 2: While back I was just saying, now it's okay, No,

1751
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with it. Yeah, I won a lot

1752
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 2: of cancer diagnosis, low spectrum lymphoma, I wasn't diagnosed with

1753
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 2: stage four you know, lump masks, you know, liver cancer

1754
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 2: or something like that. So I always appreciate the fact that,

1755
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: you know what, in spite of whatever bad thing lands

1756
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 2: on my lap, there are so many people in the

1757
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 2: world that have so much worse than me. And that's

1758
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 2: kind of a grounding thing. Yeah, and it sounds like

1759
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: what you went through too, Can I ask you because

1760
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: this is the thing that this is why one of

1761
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 2: the main reasons why I'm a law abiding citizen. I

1762
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 2: hate the idea of losing my liberty. Oh, absolutely as

1763
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: light a prism as the Ashland prison facility minimum security

1764
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 2: might have been. You don't have freedom, and what is

1765
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: that like to face? To have to face that square

1766
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 2: in the face? What is life? To live that life

1767
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:41,879
Speaker 2: without freedom?

1768
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 14: It takes It takes a great deal of testicular fortitude.

1769
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 14: Because for those who are going to prison and are

1770
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 14: family man, you know that that is very difficult. But

1771
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 14: when you when you when you get there and you

1772
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 14: see people there are other men, lawyers, former lawyers, former

1773
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 14: preachers who who took it to trial.

1774
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 11: They're service seven years.

1775
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 14: And there's a former DEA agent who was down there

1776
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 14: who's service seventeen years. This man got up and exercise

1777
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 14: every single day.

1778
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 11: There.

1779
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 14: There are black brothers, Latino brothers, and everybody down there.

1780
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 14: They have a lot worse than me twenty years here.

1781
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 14: They work their way down to a camp. And you know,

1782
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 14: when you first get there, then let me get it straight.

1783
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 14: When you first get there, you know, I didn't let

1784
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 14: nobody know. I wasn't afraid of vonn think that like that.

1785
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 14: I was afraid of my family being here without me

1786
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 14: being there. Of course I love my love, my wife,

1787
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 14: love my wife, loved her family, my family, our family,

1788
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 14: and that sort of thing. But it's nothing like you

1789
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 14: being a dad being there and this.

1790
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 2: And I mean, let you wake up in the morning,

1791
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 2: you're missing your wife and it's a whole day month

1792
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: and it's well, yeah, there's that push up, cold showers

1793
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 2: and pushers, but there's also that I wonder what she's doing.

1794
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 15: Right now as he's thinking about right now, And you

1795
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 15: only get fifteen minutes to catch up on life and

1796
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 15: you and you get these fifteen minutes and then you

1797
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 15: have to wait thirty minutes to get to the next

1798
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 15: fifteen minutes, and then you only have so many minutes

1799
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 15: that you that you can get.

1800
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 14: But I'll say this, Brian, that's where redemption begins. It

1801
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 14: begins in hell.

1802
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 11: You know what I mean.

1803
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 14: You have to fall off the proverbial horse to really

1804
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 14: be able to see yourself. And you know that hatred

1805
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 14: that I went in there. I didn't have a passion

1806
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 14: to come back to Cincinnati. You know, my mindset was

1807
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 14: the hell with Cincinnati, I said, because you know, just

1808
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 14: like a dime, you could change people's mind and they

1809
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 14: can forget about, you know, the criminalization of marijuana. You know,

1810
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 14: I'm a classical liberal libertarian. It's a big ten. You know,

1811
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 14: I'm a Republican, but I'm the the you know, the

1812
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 14: free library. Yeah, I'm like you. So so all of

1813
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 14: this just in just one mistake, and now they forget that.

1814
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 11: You've never been in trouble your life. You've overcome the odds.

1815
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 14: But when you get there and you really get to

1816
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 14: see yourself, and you begin to heal, and you begin

1817
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 14: to get this spiritual connection, you begin to get your

1818
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 14: physical body together, your emotions correct that passion and begins

1819
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 14: to come back, and you say yourself, nobody can take

1820
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 14: your passion. So it was I gotta do this. I

1821
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 14: have to do this for my wife. I have to

1822
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 14: do it for maturity. I have to do it for

1823
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:58,959
Speaker 14: the city of Cincinnati.

1824
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure we'll be hearing more from you, Jeffrey Pastor.

1825
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 2: There's been great conversation that I had no idea which

1826
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 2: direction this thing was going to go. But one thing

1827
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 2: you've done, you have made me sort of believe, at

1828
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 2: least to some degree, in the concept of prison as

1829
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: a vehicle for rehabilitation. Absolutely don't hear that much anymore.

1830
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:21,799
Speaker 2: Most people they go to prison, they become better criminals.

1831
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,919
Speaker 2: They learn from other criminals. Whether in prison you found redemption,

1832
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 2: you did a lot of soul searching, and it sounds

1833
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 2: to me like you came out of prison as a

1834
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 2: better man.

1835
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 11: Yes, and I'm happy for it. I am.

1836
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 14: I did apply for a pardon. I think that everybody

1837
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 14: deserves mercy. Bryant. I wear it on my shirt p

1838
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 14: three two three one three two. If anybody deserves mercy,

1839
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 14: I think it's I think I think it's me.

1840
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 11: I think it's I think.

1841
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 14: It's folks who have been out there doing community work,

1842
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 14: who've been out there, whether you like my policies or.

1843
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 2: Not, demonstrating that they became a better person. Absolutely, there

1844
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: you go, keep you keep you on that path. And Jeffrey, well,

1845
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 2: we'll talk again. We're gonna get the insights with bright

1846
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 2: Bart News political letter Bradley J. Hey, the shutdowns over,

1847
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 1: Today's top headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Ato six fifty five Caros Talk Station. Very happy Tuesdays you, Oh,

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Speaker 2: editor breit Bart Look front page News, Senate passes funding

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Speaker 2: build and Schumer shutdown written by Oh Bradley J. Bradley J.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the fifty five KRCY Morning Show. My friend.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to have you on the show.

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Speaker 16: I look forward to Tuesday mornings at this time. Too

1860
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 16: great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: That's nice to hear, Bradley, and I do find your

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Speaker 2: site informative, so real quick, I know they've agreed. I

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01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 2: guess minor concessions, if you can even call them that,

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01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 2: rehiring the four thousand or so employees that were fired

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01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 2: during the shutdown, Might I interject Bradley Jay employees that

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01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 2: would not have been fired had there not been a shutdown.

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01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:05,799
Speaker 2: They get their payback, No more firings. Three appropriations bills

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Speaker 2: going through which I presume probably would have gone through anyway,

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Speaker 2: because they've already gone through the sausage making process and

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01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 2: the government is opened. I guess through what January thirtieth.

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Speaker 16: That's right, yeah, January thirtieth. It's the builds through the

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Speaker 16: Senate now the House is going to vote tomorrow night.

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01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 16: Just a total, unconditional surrender from the Democrats. They got

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Speaker 16: absolutely nothing. The only concessions they got were to undo

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Speaker 16: some of the things that had happened during the shutdown

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01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 16: they initiated but wouldnt have happened otherwise, and a promise

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01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 16: on a vote that is doomed to failure. Just an

1878
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 16: absolute disaster for truck Schumer, who now has the moderates

1879
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 16: upset with him over his strategy and the left upset

1880
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 16: with him for Cavin.

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Speaker 2: All right, before you get to schumer future question, which

1882
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 2: I have written down, like I gotta ask him about

1883
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: what do you think is going to happen to Chuck Schumer?

1884
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,759
Speaker 2: You mentioned the unconditional surrender, and I have to give

1885
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 2: although I dearly love respect and put him up there

1886
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 2: as almost number one, if not number one, of my

1887
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 2: favorite representatives. Thomas Massey devout libertarian principles. He is a

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Speaker 2: strict constitutional as he is. He did not like the

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01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 2: vote for the CR because it was it kept funding

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01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 2: levels at twenty twenty four. That was Biden level funding.

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01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 2: That said, was it not a stroke of political genius

1892
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 2: for the Republicans to do that taking the wind out

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01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: of any sales the Democrats might be trying to get

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01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 2: because of some maybe reduction. So this wasn't this, you know.

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Speaker 2: They they couldn't point to the supplements going away. They're

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01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 2: the ones that put the deadline for the supplements. They

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01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 2: couldn't point to the CR being oh my god, draconian.

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01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 2: Look how much gut cuts they made from government. It

1899
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 2: was the Biden level funding levels. So they had nothing

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01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 2: to argue Bradley.

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Speaker 16: They really didn't. And look, Democrats, may this these enhanced

1902
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 16: Obamacare premium subsidies expire at the end of this year.

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01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 16: For a good reason. It's a COVID era thing. We

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01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 16: know why they did it. We're finding out a little

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01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,919
Speaker 16: bit more. Every every week is more and more triples

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01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 16: out about Arctic fraud. They the Democrats thought that it

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01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 16: was just going to be a guarantee that Donald Trump

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Speaker 16: would never be back in office, that there would just

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Speaker 16: be a Democrat there for until Kingdom come. Thank god

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01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 16: that that's that's not the case. And look the thing

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Speaker 16: about this you had. Bernie Sanders said this in his

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Speaker 16: video that he posted out. I guess it was yesterday

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Speaker 16: the day before.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 16: He's criticizing his party for folding u and not getting anything.

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Speaker 16: He guarantees, only sending the subsidies. But he said, we

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Speaker 16: are already paying the highest prices in the world for

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Speaker 16: health care. So tell me, so, tell me how these

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Speaker 16: subsidies work.

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Speaker 3: I mean, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: You're making our point for.

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Speaker 2: Us, Bernie Bradley, Jay, you are right, because Obamacare is

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Speaker 2: merely a vehicle designed to collapse under the weight of

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Speaker 2: its own pressure in order to bring about government funded

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Speaker 2: health care for all. And that's exactly what Obamacare effectively is.

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Speaker 2: Thank god the Supreme Court said they could not make

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Speaker 2: us buy it. Through the commerce clause, but there it

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Speaker 2: is nonetheless no one buys into it. It becomes the

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Speaker 2: insurer of last resort, meaning the claims pile up. People

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Speaker 2: who are very sick and get on Obamacare and have

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Speaker 2: all their claims paid, and then of course the government

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Speaker 2: has to fake it being affordable by paying the insurance

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Speaker 2: companies the premium. The money's going directly the medical insurance carrier,

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Speaker 2: so that makes it look like it's free. And by

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Speaker 2: getting rid of the caps on those subsidies, anyone can

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Speaker 2: join in, and a lot of people did because it

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Speaker 2: financially speaking, it might it did work out for a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of people. But now that those supplements are gone,

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Speaker 2: most people are going to go back to have to

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Speaker 2: go back to the private sector to get their medical insurance,

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Speaker 2: meaning bigger and bigger weight is going to be loaded

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Speaker 2: down on Obamacare. It's designed to collapse. Bradley, At least

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Speaker 2: that's my perspective. Maybe you got a different one.

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Speaker 16: No, I think you're exactly right. And this is just

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Speaker 16: another example, with these payments to the insuring companies, of

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Speaker 16: how the party dynamics have shifted so much during the

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Speaker 16: last ten years. The Democrat Party is now the party

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Speaker 16: of the coastal elite. That's who they cater to. If

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Speaker 16: they've become the party a big business. It was something

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Speaker 16: that I wouldn't have thought was possible just over a

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Speaker 16: decade ago, but they have fully embraced it as the

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Speaker 16: Republicans under Trump had brought in more and more blue

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Speaker 16: collar working American voters. There has just been a total shift,

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Speaker 16: and the Democrats can't argue otherwise now.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other argument that came out just the other

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Speaker 2: day may have motivated the Democrats to move forward with

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Speaker 2: this reopening of the government. Bradley is the idea that

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Speaker 2: Trump threw out and others have thrown out. Why don't

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Speaker 2: these supplement dollars just go to the person themselves and

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Speaker 2: then they can use them like they're medical savings accounts

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Speaker 2: to apply to private sector medical insurance policies. And there

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Speaker 2: are hundreds of companies out there offering medical insurance. It

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Speaker 2: can be affordable if you know how to work it,

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Speaker 2: and more people would. But it's like school choice. Let

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Speaker 2: the money follow the kid. Why does this money have

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Speaker 2: to go directly to the medical insurance companies whose stocks

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Speaker 2: have gone through the roof.

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Speaker 16: It sounds almost to me like you're proposing something that

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Speaker 16: might actually benefit the American people.

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Speaker 2: Below in your healthcare competition.

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Speaker 16: Is not what Obamacare is about. It is not at all,

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Speaker 16: as you have said. It is all about creating something

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Speaker 16: that inevitably will fail and fail upward, as you're a Democrat,

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Speaker 16: into just more socialized, socialized medicine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to see us enter the one size

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Speaker 2: fits all new government program Medicaid for all. We're going

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Speaker 2: to save us because of Obamacare collapse. People are dying

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Speaker 2: in the streets. They can't get medical treatment. We need

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Speaker 2: a solution. That solution is going to come from government,

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Speaker 2: even though government solutions led to the collapse that needs

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Speaker 2: to be saved. I mean, you know, I mean, he

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Speaker 2: can't make this up.

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Speaker 16: Bradley, Well, right, I'll tell you one thing that Chuck

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Speaker 16: Schumer said on the floor before the vote last night.

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Speaker 3: He said, the.

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Speaker 16: American people have now are woken to trump health care crisis.

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Speaker 16: I think that the American people have woken up to

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Speaker 16: the crisis right now. I don't think that they blamed Trump.

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Speaker 16: This was such a loser for Democrats, this shut down

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Speaker 16: because the one issue that Democrats wanted to to force

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Speaker 16: into the national conversation. This issue of healthcare is such

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Speaker 16: a loser for them. The American people are examining it now.

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Speaker 16: They're hearing Bertie Sanders talk about how the American people

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Speaker 16: have the most expensive health care in the nation, and

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Speaker 16: they're asking, what exactly are we trying to save here?

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Speaker 16: Why are Democrats trying to prop up Obamacare yet again?

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Speaker 16: This could be an opportunity for Republicans to if they

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Speaker 16: actually go on offense and are aggressive, which Republicans are

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Speaker 16: not generally inclined to do. This would be a heavy

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Speaker 16: lift for them and to be out of character. But

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Speaker 16: if Republicans see the moment, they could actually do something

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Speaker 16: not only the lowers healthcare prices and availability for the

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Speaker 16: American people, but might actually be a winner at the

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Speaker 16: ballot box.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that, no question about it. And some astute journalists wrote,

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Speaker 2: no one objective to the Animus consent agreement to speed

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Speaker 2: the end of the shutdown. Reading from your article, do

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Speaker 2: you think that's because they realize that this there's no

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Speaker 2: reason to just end this pain that they brought about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's just get this thing through. We know

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Speaker 2: we're done, it's over. Let's get the government back open.

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Speaker 2: Is this an acknowledgment that perhaps they realize in this

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Speaker 2: whole who wins who loses political argument which is so childish,

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Speaker 2: that they are the losers indeed in the hearts and

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Speaker 2: minds of the American people on the shutdown.

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Speaker 16: Well, look, Brown, I worked on Capitol Hill for a

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Speaker 16: long time, and there was a saying that we used

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Speaker 16: here all the time. Vote no, hope, Yes. One thing

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Speaker 16: that Senator Caine said during his press conference this week

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Speaker 16: announcing that he was caving is that there were many

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Speaker 16: more Democrat senators who wanted this to end, but who

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Speaker 16: would not vote for it because they didn't have to.

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Speaker 3: It's no accident.

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Speaker 16: There were eight Democrats who voted for this, and there

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Speaker 16: were exactly eight Democrat votes that were needed. And here's

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Speaker 16: another point. None of those eight are up for reelection

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Speaker 16: this year. They're all either retiring or they're up in

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Speaker 16: twenty eight or thirty. This is going to be the

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Speaker 16: new with this test for Democrats. It's politically toxic to

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Speaker 16: have voted to end the shutdown. It's another example of

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Speaker 16: how just the radicals, the no king, the resistant Democrats

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Speaker 16: of the world have just fully fully won over control

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Speaker 16: of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that suggests the answer to the question was

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Speaker 2: going to ask you what does this mean for Chucky Schumer?

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Speaker 2: I note another line you pointed out the civil war

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Speaker 2: for the soul and direction of the party is just beginning.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you're writing about the Democrat Party. Does this

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Speaker 2: mean they've woken up and are going to start shifting

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Speaker 2: more toward the Oddly enough, Fetterman turned out to be

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Speaker 2: a normal kind of sounding human being. Is a Democrat?

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Speaker 2: Are they going to move toward Fetterman? Are they going

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Speaker 2: to move more toward AOC?

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Speaker 16: I think that the party has no choice but to

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Speaker 16: move towards the AOC type wing.

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Speaker 3: Look. Part of the.

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Speaker 16: Senate, even more so than the House, is insulated from

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Speaker 16: the political wins, and part of the job of a

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Speaker 16: Senate leader is to take those slings and arrows and

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Speaker 16: to be unpopular to protect his own members.

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Speaker 3: The problem for Schumer.

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Speaker 16: Is that he himself is going to be in danger

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Speaker 16: at the ballot box. I think it's notable that a

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Speaker 16: reporter chased him down the other day and asked him

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Speaker 16: if he was going to run for reelection, and he

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Speaker 16: would not commit to it. I think that AOC would

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Speaker 16: be wise to run against him and not run for president.

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Speaker 16: Of course, I'm not out here looking to give AOC

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Speaker 16: any advice, but there's no doubt that Chuck Schumer himself

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Speaker 16: is in political peril right now, and a lot of

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Speaker 16: the members of his caucus feel like the reason that

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Speaker 16: he forced him into this shutdown was for his own

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Speaker 16: personal political benefit. And if that that is something that

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Speaker 16: I believe could actually call some members of his own

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Speaker 16: conference to start thinking, well, maybe it's time for a change.

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Speaker 16: Not to mention how all these candidates for Senate, these

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Speaker 16: Democrat candidates around the nation are calling for him to

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Speaker 16: step down and pledging not to vote for him. He

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Speaker 16: could be in real trouble down the roads.

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Speaker 2: And I get that, and I can understand California, for example,

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Speaker 2: sending an AOC leftist to replace Chucky Schumer. But out

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Speaker 2: here in the great unwashed masses, in say, let's say

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Speaker 2: purple state states that are kind of closed, sometimes Republicans,

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Speaker 2: sometimes Democrat, do you think that message is going to

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Speaker 2: carry the weight and win over the hearts and minds

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Speaker 2: of the American people, Because, honestly, sir, I hate living

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Speaker 2: in a time or a socialist or an out loud

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Speaker 2: admitted Communist can even get elected, but can they get

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Speaker 2: elected in states beyond New York and California and some

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Speaker 2: of the other batcrab crazy blue states.

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Speaker 16: Bradley, It's politically toxic and in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 16: Democrats are in a similar spot now as Republicans were

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Speaker 16: a decade ago. The longtime leaders of the party had

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Speaker 16: run the ship agroiled and there was a battle for

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Speaker 16: what direction the party was going to go in as

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Speaker 16: specifically to Capitol Hill. Look, leadership isn't as important anymore.

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Speaker 16: You don't have as much a threat to members with

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Speaker 16: Congress doesn't legislate, so prime committee spots aren't as important.

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Speaker 16: Members can raise money elsewhere, they're not as dependent, and

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Speaker 16: they're not as dependent on leadership bar Jess or all

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Speaker 16: these campaign committees. And you can take your message directly

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Speaker 16: to the people with social media websites like bright bart

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Speaker 16: and and on and on. You're not dependent on the

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Speaker 16: establishment media that oftentimes these the establishment of these political

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Speaker 16: parties controlled. The difference for Republicans between Republicans in and

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Speaker 16: Democrats now is Republicans had a savior waiting by the

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Speaker 16: grace of God named Donald Trump, who actually led the

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Speaker 16: party in the right direction that would actually expand the

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Speaker 16: tent and give Republicans an electoral future. Democrats don't have that,

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Speaker 16: and I think that the direction that their party is

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Speaker 16: going to take is one that has incredibly far to

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Speaker 16: the left and such a turn off for most independent,

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Speaker 16: most moderates, and won't do anything other than to generate

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Speaker 16: excitement with the furthest left of their party that civil

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Speaker 16: war is gonna be messy. I think that the party

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Speaker 16: that wins will be bad for the country. Hopefully it

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Speaker 16: doesn't move over to window that way. But Republicans have

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Speaker 16: a real opportunity.

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Speaker 2: If they can seize it, they sure do. Politics editor

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Speaker 2: Bradley J. From Breitbart Breitbart dot com Real quick, since

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Speaker 2: I mentioned Massy before, He's got a discharge petition for

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files with the House out of recess that's

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Speaker 2: going to be brought up. What do you think.

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Speaker 16: I think that this has been out there for too long.

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Speaker 16: The discharge petition isn't even gonna do that much. It's

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Speaker 16: limited in what it can compel the administration to do.

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Speaker 16: Let them vote on it, let them have their day,

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Speaker 16: get it over with, Let's get back to business.

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Speaker 2: Pull the band aid off. Bradley Jay, Thanks for spending

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Speaker 2: time my listeners with me today and thanks for what

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Speaker 2: you do each and every day Breitbart. My best to

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Speaker 2: you and the Breitbart team. We'll do this again next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: T have a great week, my friend. It's a twenty

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Speaker 8: Fighting Souliers from the sky, Fearless men who jump and die,

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Speaker 8: men who mean.

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Speaker 2: Just what they say.

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Speaker 5: Love, brave men.

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Speaker 2: Of the Greenbow Rays Hey twenty nine fifty five KRCD

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Speaker 2: talk singing along. I can see him doing it. The

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Speaker 2: only pro Vietnam movie ever made, John Wayne, the Green Beret.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant colonel for the Daniel

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Speaker 2: Davis Deep Dive. Finding where you find your podcast just

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Speaker 2: search for Daniel Davis Deep Dive. And of course let

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Speaker 2: me start off by thanking you for your well on

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Speaker 2: your your service to our country which is currently ongoing

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Speaker 2: in the of your commentary related to military matters. It's

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Speaker 2: great to have you on the show again. Daniel Davis.

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Speaker 10: Thank you very much, always a great pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 2: Happy Veterans Day, Sir. Before we get to, of course,

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Speaker 2: whatever's going on between Israel and the Palestinians and Russia

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Speaker 2: and Ukraine, which apparently took a turn for the worst

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Speaker 2: for Ukraine recently, I want to ask you about your

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Speaker 2: your reaction to yesterday's meeting with the Syrian president. He's

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Speaker 2: agreed to enter into a coalition to fight ISIS and

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Speaker 2: terrorism and generally stabilize the region in return for reductionist

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Speaker 2: sanctions from the US and playing along economically for his

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Speaker 2: citizen's own benefit. Bashar al Assad would never have done this,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't think in my lifetime we'd ever see

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Speaker 2: a step toward this type of agreement, as limited as

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Speaker 2: it may be in my lifetime, considering Syria being Syria,

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Speaker 2: your reaction to the development from yesterday, Sir, I gotta.

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Speaker 9: Say, I'm torn, and I'm gonna I'm gonna hold my

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Speaker 9: judgment until we see what happens in time, clearly because

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Speaker 9: we can't lose side of the fact that just a

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Speaker 9: few months ago this guy was had a ten million

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Speaker 9: dollars I think reward on his head by the US

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Speaker 9: government for terrorist activities that he had done, and he

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Speaker 9: is part of Alnouiser, as part of ISIS and several

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Speaker 9: others what we considered terrorist groups, and then you know

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Speaker 9: he has a change of heart. Now I am all

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Speaker 9: about doing what makes sense for our country, and if

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Speaker 9: we can make a deal with somebody that increases our security,

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Speaker 9: that causes us to be able to redeploy and leave

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Speaker 9: troops behind that we have in Syria right now, which

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Speaker 9: I'm told by a certain member of the administration just

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Speaker 9: days ago that that is the case, that we were

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Speaker 9: planning to remove all of our troops from Syria by

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Speaker 9: September of twenty twenty six. Big time supporter of that.

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Speaker 9: If this works and if it holds, and if it

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Speaker 9: brings peace and help to the people of Syria and

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Speaker 9: reduces our exposure in the region, then it's a great

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Speaker 9: thing and I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's like the Italians getting rid of

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Speaker 2: Mussolinian and getting away from the Axis Powers before World

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Speaker 2: War two is over. Maybe he realized he's on the

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Speaker 2: losing side, and this growing coalition of what I'll boil

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Speaker 2: down to in the in the idea of the Abraham

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Speaker 2: of coorse, let's play nice together for our own mutual

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Speaker 2: benefit and put aside our differences. Maybe he just sees

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Speaker 2: that is the future for the region. This is where

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Speaker 2: my optimism comes from, Daniel Davis. Maybe it's false.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, look, self interest is definitely at play here.

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Speaker 9: And if we know anything at all about a lot

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Speaker 9: of the way things work in the air world for decades,

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Speaker 9: and you could probably go back centuries, the friend of

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Speaker 9: my friend, a friend of my enemy, is my friend.

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Speaker 9: And if he sees a benefit to work together with

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Speaker 9: us today, he can do it. And if things change

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Speaker 9: two years from now, he'll do that too. And you know,

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Speaker 9: we certainly can't forget the time when we had during

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Speaker 9: the Sons of Iraq, during our big problem that we

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Speaker 9: had with him during the two thous us in five

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Speaker 9: to seven period, all of a sudden, for reasons that

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Speaker 9: made sense to them on the ground, they joined forces

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Speaker 9: with us after having been fighting us the day before.

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Speaker 10: And then all of a sudden, now then we're their friends.

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Speaker 9: We're giving them money, and that dramatically reduced the amount

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Speaker 9: of violence against the American troops and eventually paid the

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Speaker 9: way for us to leave our combat troops there at

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Speaker 9: least for a period of time, so it can work,

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Speaker 9: but you have to understand it's a transient thing, and

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Speaker 9: the minute that things change for them, they'll change on

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Speaker 9: the other side. So we have to always keep a

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Speaker 9: wary eye on that.

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Speaker 2: Well, back to your concept before, when the Russians had

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Speaker 2: invaded Afghanistan, we cuddled up with the m Jahadeen and

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Speaker 2: some of the other just because they were against the Russians,

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Speaker 2: and then were where do we fight our on's we

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Speaker 2: go into Afghanistan. I hate to laugh over that tragedy,

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Speaker 2: but there's another illustration of your point. The enemy of

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Speaker 2: my enemy is my friend until the other enemy is

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Speaker 2: not there anymore. Daniel Davis, let us move over. Apparently

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Speaker 2: I see the headline we are losing Polkova, Russia near's

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Speaker 2: biggest gains since Bachhmut this this morning, and that obviously

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Speaker 2: means territorial gains to the advantage of the Russians. But

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Speaker 2: also on the heels of and we experienced our first

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Speaker 2: winter blast here in the greater Cincinnati areas down to

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Speaker 2: the twenties, and we had to deal with some snow

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Speaker 2: on the ground. That happened on the same day I

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Speaker 2: read about Russia hitting a lot of Ukrainians power sources,

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Speaker 2: you know, ultimately resulting in zero power or energy, which

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Speaker 2: I perceived to be as freezing Ukrainians. So amid all this,

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Speaker 2: what's your assessment of the situation between those two countries.

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Speaker 9: The situation in pakrowskis is almost completely gone. The city

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Speaker 9: of Pakrosk itself is all but gone. There's just a

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Speaker 9: few outlying neighborhoods and groupings of buildings on the very

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Speaker 9: far outskirts on the north and northeastern quadrants of the city.

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Speaker 9: The bigger issue is that there are some number of

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Speaker 9: thousands of Ukrainians trapped in the sister city Mirinograd right

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Speaker 9: next to it. There's another grouping in the south and

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Speaker 9: kind of a forested, patched area where Ukraine has been

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Speaker 9: defending for quite a long time. They're now physically surrounded,

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Speaker 9: and Ukraine is fighting really hard on a city called Rodenska.

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Speaker 9: Actually it's more like a medium sized town up north

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Speaker 9: of that. They're trying fiercely to try to break through

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Speaker 9: the Russian positions, to try and open up a corridor

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Speaker 9: so that those troops in Mirnograd can escape. It remains

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Speaker 9: to be seen whether they'll succeed on that they haven't

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Speaker 9: in many other areas. Because Russia, according to General Sirski

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Speaker 9: from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, has about one hundred and

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Speaker 9: fifty thousand reserve forces in the area, and if Ukraine

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Speaker 9: serves to have success there, it seems reasonable to presume

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Speaker 9: that Russia would flood those reserves in and close that off.

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Speaker 10: If Russia is completely able to close the pinchers.

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Speaker 9: And Ukraine can't unblock it, it's not just the loss

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Speaker 9: of the city, the political loss, but then it will

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Speaker 9: be the twin cities lost and all the troops that

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Speaker 9: are trained profited well, and it's going to be a

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Speaker 9: real big problem, even bigger.

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Speaker 10: Than it might seem. And then there's issues going on

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Speaker 10: also in the Kupeonsk area. There was a overnight there.

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Speaker 9: Was reports that Russia had crossed a certain river inside

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Speaker 9: there and taken a rail station that was deep inside

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Speaker 9: Ukraine lines. And then some other areas also on the

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Speaker 9: Slabyansky Chromatursk area of the Donetsk All of this is

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Speaker 9: really starting to get pretty wabbly, and it could be

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Speaker 9: a really ugly winter for not just the people there

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Speaker 9: on the front line, but also back in the Capital

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Speaker 9: City and other places. And also I don't know if

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Speaker 9: you saw in the New York Times is reporting yesterday

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Speaker 9: there's been this big problem inside the Ukraine government where

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Speaker 9: one of the guys that we were helping funnel money

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Speaker 9: into Ukraine for drone production, turns out he was actually

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Speaker 9: siphoning off the top to the tune of one hundred

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Speaker 9: million dollars.

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Speaker 10: He has now fled.

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Speaker 9: There's a man hunt for him, and by the way,

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Speaker 9: he was a really close confidant of Vloida mr Zolinsky.

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Speaker 10: So not a good look for the Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Side, and which can firms what many people in my

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Speaker 2: listening audience, and certainly I include myself in this group,

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Speaker 2: you know what's really happening to all the money? I mean,

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Speaker 2: the fog awar is bad enough, and when you're funding

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Speaker 2: a war, a lot of money can go by the

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Speaker 2: wayside and go missing. We've seen this time and time

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Speaker 2: and time and time and time again with dictators or

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Speaker 2: regimes that we've supported, when they have to flee the

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Speaker 2: country because they get overrun, they end up on a

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Speaker 2: plane with billions of US dollars in currency and live

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Speaker 2: lavish lives in the aftermath. So I can't abide any

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Speaker 2: of that. So I does this do these losses or

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Speaker 2: you know, impending losses, what's going on right now with

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Speaker 2: the surrounding of the troops, does that create an opportunity

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Speaker 2: perhaps for Zelenski to maybe say, listen, we can't afford

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Speaker 2: this loss of life anymore in the name of humanity,

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Speaker 2: We're going to negotiate a peace agreement that it does

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Speaker 2: in fact involves the conceding some of the land to

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Speaker 2: the Russians in order to end this bloody conflict. I

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Speaker 2: mean some point, somebody's got to say that out loud.

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Speaker 9: No, no, I don't I think that we have passed

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Speaker 9: that point, because he showed when they refused to give

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Speaker 9: a similar order to preserve their troops in Bachmut nearly

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Speaker 9: two years ago, in Avdifka. Shortly after that, in the

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Speaker 9: Kursk operation where they had this penetration into Russia which

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Speaker 9: never had any prayer of accomplishing anything for Ukraine, they

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Speaker 9: ended up sacrificing about seventy thousand killed, and of course

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Speaker 9: after eight months.

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Speaker 10: You couldn't tell they were ever there. It was a

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Speaker 10: complete and total loss.

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Speaker 9: And now here we are in Kromatura or sorry, in

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Speaker 9: Vokrowsk in the Mirilograd.

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Speaker 10: Area, the same dynamic. They refuse to get them out.

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Speaker 9: Now they're trying belatedly to break them out, but we

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Speaker 9: don't even know that that's what they're doing. They may

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Speaker 9: simply be trying to re establish it. They may not

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Speaker 9: be trying to get them out. So even if they

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Speaker 9: broke through, who knows whether they would allow their troops

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Speaker 9: to leave. I doubt it, And his Zelenski's commentary continues

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02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,880
Speaker 9: to be really boisterous and kind of in your face,

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Speaker 9: and we're not giving up anything.

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Speaker 10: So no, I don't think they'll come a point.

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Speaker 9: I think that either we're going to have to pull

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Speaker 9: the plug on him or he's going to take his

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Speaker 9: country to complete destruction.

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Speaker 2: Were you kind of anticipated what I was going to

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Speaker 2: ask you on along those lines, Let's say, a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, the idea of US military aid, and

2322
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Speaker 2: of course European military aid was still a pretty strong concept.

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Speaker 2: We were giving them aid, we were entertaining questions for

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Speaker 2: more missiles, et cetera, et cetera. I think we got

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Speaker 2: the end of our rope on that we've all talked about,

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Speaker 2: supply chain issues, the expense of patriot missiles versus the

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Speaker 2: actual drones that they're are that are being used in war,

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Speaker 2: and the ridiculous notion of using patriots against drones Tomahawk

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Speaker 2: missiles and any equation we talked about that having to

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Speaker 2: need American soldiers and troops to actually operate those, which

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Speaker 2: is a big red flag for most people. But given

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Speaker 2: what and again correct me, because you're following this far

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Speaker 2: more close closer than I am, it just seems to

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Speaker 2: me that the idea, based on everything you've even said

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Speaker 2: on this right, Ukraine is losing and it seems that

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Speaker 2: all the weapons in the world are not going to

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02:06:56,520 --> 02:07:00,040
Speaker 2: better at situation militarily as this war rage is on,

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Speaker 2: and that maybe that practical reality is kind of settled

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Speaker 2: in somewhere in Ukraine, whether or not Zelensky has he

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Speaker 2: seems to just be just you know, spitting in the

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Speaker 2: wind or something like that. He's not facing reality. So

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Speaker 2: is there a different element perhaps a play here given

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Speaker 2: the global perception.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I'll tell you there's an additional problem that

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Speaker 9: cannot be overlooked, and that is the fact that Zelensky

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Speaker 9: is being greatly encouraged and supported emotionally and otherwise by Europe,

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Speaker 9: and you have here Starmer of uk Menuel Macrone of France,

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Speaker 9: Chancellor Metz from Germany. They are emphatically and enthusiastically saying no,

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Speaker 9: keep going, don't stop in Britain. Here's some more storm

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Speaker 9: shadow missiles, you can fire deeper into Russia. Here's some

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Speaker 9: other components you need. You can hit Russia's oil, infrastructure, etc.

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Speaker 9: And they're doing some of that. And on the one hand,

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Speaker 9: you may say, well, that's fair game. You're in a war.

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Speaker 9: They can do that, and that's fine, and as long

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Speaker 9: as it produces something positive for your side and gives

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Speaker 9: you a chance to either succeed or push the Russians back.

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Speaker 9: But if all it does is infuriate the Russians and

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Speaker 9: it's not a fraction enough to change the dynamics, and

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Speaker 9: all you do is increase the chance that Ukraine will

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Speaker 9: be crushed and there won't be a negotiated settlement.

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Speaker 10: They'll just be a defeat. That's what I really have problem.

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Speaker 9: So it's not just Zelensky, but it's the European leaders

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Speaker 9: who are definitely detached from reality.

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Speaker 2: So you confirm what I was thinking in the back

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Speaker 2: of my mind in spite of yeah, they continue to

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Speaker 2: encourage a man who's delusional, which suggests they too are

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Speaker 2: delusional with regard to the perception of the war.

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Speaker 9: Either they're delusional or they're just unconcerned about the cost

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Speaker 9: on the Ukraine side, and as long as they can

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Speaker 9: get people to hit Russia and cause them pain on

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Speaker 9: the way out, they're okay with it, which then you

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Speaker 9: get into these just flat immorality of it, and I

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Speaker 9: fear were as much in there as we are.

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Speaker 2: Delusion or maybe we're missing a little piece here, because

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Speaker 2: of course we've issued tons and tons of sanctions on Russia.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to prevent them from selling their oil in

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Speaker 2: the open market, we're trying to impact their economy. Maybe

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Speaker 2: these quick hits and strikes on energy production facilities and

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Speaker 2: oil facilities that may not mean a wit militarily speaking,

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Speaker 2: is having a greater impact on Russia's economy, thus achieving

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Speaker 2: a broader objective.

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Speaker 9: If there was some evidence to that, then that would

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Speaker 9: be a legitimate because that is a legitimate concept, but

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Speaker 9: only insofar as it actually works.

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Speaker 10: And when you have seen.

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Speaker 9: Nineteen rounds of if sanctions not have any effect whatsoever

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Speaker 9: on the front line, and you can draw a logical

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Speaker 9: line that number twenty, which they're working on right now.

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Speaker 9: When we're talking about literally just yesterday, If not teen

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Speaker 9: field maybe twenty will work, it's absurd. And then what

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Speaker 9: you can't do with what these sanctions are is draw

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Speaker 9: a line to how that's going to impact Russia, that

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Speaker 9: would in any way affect the political decision making in Moscow.

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Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, all that's doing is doubling

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Speaker 9: down the certainty within Russia and within the political realm that.

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Speaker 10: There's no talking here.

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Speaker 9: All we need to do is completely win. So it's

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Speaker 9: having literally the opposite effect, and you can observe it.

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Speaker 9: So now we seem to return back again to the

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02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:12,640
Speaker 9: delusional thing. We want this to work, so we're just

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02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,440
Speaker 9: gonna pretend that it will, even though evidence screams that

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Speaker 9: it won't.

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Speaker 2: So we have some really big problems in the West.

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Speaker 2: Straight talk from you, man, We can always count on that.

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Speaker 2: So I love having you on the show, Daniel Davis

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Speaker 2: Deep Dive. Follow them for wherever to get your podcasts,

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Speaker 2: to our country.

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Speaker 10: Sir, thank you very kindly.

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Speaker 2: Talk station, AY forty nine to fifty five KRCD talk station.

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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday judgment Paulatano, Jack allenan tomorrow and right now,

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Speaker 2: my good friend Steve from USA Insallation, and I've been

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Speaker 2: advertising USA Installation now for the entire coming up on

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Speaker 2: nineteen full years. It'll be twenty next year. No regrets

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Speaker 2: from many of the listeners have done it, except that

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Speaker 2: they wish they had done it sooner. Steve. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you allowing me to recommend your product. It gives me

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Speaker 2: credibility man, because man, this stuff works USA Pham. I

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Speaker 2: was thinking about it, Steve, when I knew I was

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Speaker 2: going to be talking to you. I thought about windows

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02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:28,840
Speaker 2: because I replaced our windows a long time ago with

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02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:32,960
Speaker 2: efficient windows. Right. We had cheap builder special they were

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02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 2: double pain but they were just crappy. The best, top

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02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 2: tier typical window. Highly efficient window is between R five

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02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 2: and you're lucky if you get R eight. That's a window.

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02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 2: The rest of the house is available space for a

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Speaker 2: much higher R value product. And that's your Pham.

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Speaker 17: Well, you know, Brian, that's true. I mean, we're going

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02:11:56,240 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 17: to get Shendon an R nineteen and above and depending

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02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 17: on the thickness of the wall. But the reality is

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02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:06,240
Speaker 17: you lose way more energy. I mean if your windows

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02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:09,800
Speaker 17: are falling on obviously, but if in a typical situation

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Speaker 17: your walls lose over fifty percent of the energy, and

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02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:17,920
Speaker 17: then of course then you got your addic. So really,

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02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 17: when you think about insulation, they don't tell you when

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02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 17: you build a new home that you have to follow

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02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 17: a particular code for a window, but they certainly make

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Speaker 17: sure you got the highest efficiency possible because it's the

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Speaker 17: most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Right Well, that's I think it's a very point of

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02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 2: want to make. If you've got if you want to

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Speaker 2: save money on your energy bills, you want a more

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02:12:39,520 --> 02:12:42,000
Speaker 2: comfortable home, You've got certain things you can look at

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02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:44,840
Speaker 2: to improve energy efficiency. And I'm not saying, like you said,

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Speaker 2: don't replace leaky, cracky windows, but if you're going to

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Speaker 2: invest some money in. This is the absolute best product

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Speaker 2: you can choose from.

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Speaker 17: And the important thing is it pays for itself quicker

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02:12:57,160 --> 02:13:00,360
Speaker 17: than anything else, because it certainly isn't anywhere near the

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Speaker 17: cost of replacing the one down rights.

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Speaker 5: Tall, you know.

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Speaker 17: And then I got a ninety nine dollars a month

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02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:10,880
Speaker 17: interest free opportunity for everybody I'm keeping where you know

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02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 17: that you could say that every single month. And it

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02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,480
Speaker 17: pays for itself in a very short amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it does. And my friend Jeff's out there listening.

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Speaker 2: I'll probably get yet another email from him he did it,

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Speaker 2: and his again, he's one of the listeners that said,

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Speaker 2: gosh darn it, I wish I had done this sooner.

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Speaker 2: And that's it in ninety nine bucks a months. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: you can get this whole thing accomplished in about a day,

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Speaker 2: right for an average home. The insulation Oh.

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Speaker 17: Typically, yeah, typically one day is all it takes.

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Speaker 3: And I don't forget.

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Speaker 17: We've been doing this forty years, so you know, you know,

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Speaker 17: we know what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: We're professionals at.

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Speaker 17: What we do, and we certainly have the highest R

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Speaker 17: rated foam in the industry.

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Speaker 2: Plus it's made in Ohio. Alwa's like to bring that

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Speaker 2: one now too. Give him props to the to the

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Speaker 2: home state. Well, so you know, the thing we also

2479
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Speaker 2: need to remember is, in addition to the unbelievably low

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Speaker 2: price in ninety nine dollars a month, if you want

2481
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Speaker 2: to take advantage of the energy tax credit, which will

2482
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Speaker 2: get you twelve hundred dollars when you're doing your taxes

2483
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:08,200
Speaker 2: next year. This is the last year for it, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, you know people, you know, they might hear about it,

2485
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:16,040
Speaker 17: but it's lost a little steam. But it's there for

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Speaker 17: the taking. Twelve hundred dollars goes away December thirty. First,

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02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 17: I can't imagine just letting twelve hundred slip right through

2488
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:28,280
Speaker 17: your hands. You know, if you got if you're under insulated,

2489
02:14:28,840 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 17: why not get give us a call. All you got

2490
02:14:30,920 --> 02:14:34,120
Speaker 17: to do is set the appointment, we get your installed,

2491
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Speaker 17: and you'll qualify for that twelve hundred bucks hard to pass.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you used the word under insulated, because

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02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 2: I know from working with you all these years, if

2494
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:47,080
Speaker 2: your house was built, say before the mid seventies, then

2495
02:14:47,120 --> 02:14:49,480
Speaker 2: they didn't put any insulation necessarily in the next year

2496
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 2: walls and even if they did. It could have been

2497
02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:54,160
Speaker 2: like fabric or I don't know, but it wasn't high

2498
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:57,280
Speaker 2: our value. You inspected my daughter's home when we got

2499
02:14:57,320 --> 02:14:59,320
Speaker 2: the insulation for her, and you found that it had

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02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:02,280
Speaker 2: deteriorate late seventies. What was that like R twelve or

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02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:04,640
Speaker 2: something which didn't even have an R twelve impact anymore.

2502
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:08,520
Speaker 2: So people can get their home assessed to determine whether

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02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 2: they're under or uninsulated for free when you get a

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02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:14,440
Speaker 2: free quote, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 17: And plus in Cincinnati, there's a lot of brick on

2506
02:15:17,880 --> 02:15:20,640
Speaker 17: blocks and you know there's nothing there and all that

2507
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 17: one inch and between the brick and the block it's floating.

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02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:27,640
Speaker 17: That air floats through there so fast. It just it's

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02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:32,080
Speaker 17: it's cold, it's drafty. You know right there. You'd be

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02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:35,360
Speaker 17: surprised what that one interraform will do. I can't tell

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02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:38,560
Speaker 17: you how many people say that has made a wonderful difference.

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02:15:38,680 --> 02:15:40,840
Speaker 17: They were going to sell their house that was so uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a friend who was in the exact

2514
02:15:43,080 --> 02:15:45,680
Speaker 2: same position, and he Steve did sell his house. This

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02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:48,000
Speaker 2: is before I even knew about USA installation. I sure

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02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,000
Speaker 2: would have mentioned it to him, because man, you go

2517
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:51,280
Speaker 2: in his house in the middle of the winter. He

2518
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:54,560
Speaker 2: was paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars to to heat

2519
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 2: a very small home, and man, it was an uphill battle,

2520
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:59,360
Speaker 2: and it was like, Wow, there's nothing in the exterior

2521
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 2: walls of this. That's what it's all about. Call for

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Speaker 2: the free quote, free inspection and ninety nine dollars a

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Speaker 2: month interest free. Very affordable, and of course you're probably

2524
02:16:07,640 --> 02:16:10,120
Speaker 2: gonna save more than that, so it's a wash, or

2525
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:13,200
Speaker 2: maybe even better, pays for itself and you get twelve

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02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:15,120
Speaker 2: hundred dollars back from the federal government next year when

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02:16:15,080 --> 02:16:17,600
Speaker 2: you're doing your taxes. Steve, what do I say all

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Speaker 2: the time? The ultimate no brainer.

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Speaker 3: No brainer? You are correct.

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Speaker 2: That is very correct, Steve. You can reach at five

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Speaker 2: one three three eight one three six two six three

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Speaker 2: eight one foam. You want to see how it works

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Speaker 2: and learn more about the product made in Ohio, go

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Speaker 2: to USA installation dot net. Steve, thank you so much

2535
02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:40,840
Speaker 2: for well giving me credibility by proving your product is

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Speaker 2: awesome and the ultimate no brainer after all these years,

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02:16:43,640 --> 02:16:46,000
Speaker 2: and I will I'm sure I'll talk to you again

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02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:48,920
Speaker 2: real soon, and go go to go tend to those phones.

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Speaker 6: My friend, oh my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Take care Brother. Eight fifty five here fifty

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Speaker 2: five KRC the talk station. What a wild conversation I had.