WEBVTT - The Spooky Box Office Battle & Doomsday Dud (News Dump)

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<v Speaker 1>Movies are back, The Doomsday Dud leaves my pants full

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<v Speaker 1>of mud, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Living embodiment of film likes AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Wolverine game looks bloody good mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh of that and so much more here on news Dump.

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<v Speaker 2>What on bag Dog?

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<v Speaker 1>You prompted me, Yeah, British voice and then gave me Australian.

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<v Speaker 2>That was on purpe material that was on purpose. I

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<v Speaker 2>almost talked a little bit of Scottish in there for

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<v Speaker 2>you too. It's all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, hey, good, nice jersey got on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jeff Bagwell, bagpipes.

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<v Speaker 1>Love Bagwell, love Bagwell.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen this jersey a couple times, even at Macy's

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<v Speaker 2>where I pick it up, flip it to the back

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<v Speaker 2>and I say, easy, oh, get this shit out of

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<v Speaker 2>my face.

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<v Speaker 1>Gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I would never be seen, would be caught dead in

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<v Speaker 2>a Craigbegio jersey. But I have the throwback Astros pullover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's nice, no buttons on it. If we had

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with core concepts, core beliefs of this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Anti Bigio, yeah that one of the main three or

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<v Speaker 1>four anti best.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we formed this podcast on our love

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<v Speaker 2>for Norm MacDonald and our hatred for Craig Begio.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go. There's another core value of the

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<v Speaker 1>Macogoo podcast right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Comment down below, tweet at us Instagram. Let's figure out

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<v Speaker 2>a ten commandments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ten commandments, the ten core values of the Macogoo podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We just came up with two of them. Nor McDonald

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<v Speaker 1>love Craig Bigio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, ten goo macments. There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You really nailed that.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that'd be the third one. Sure, sure, Mac

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<v Speaker 2>Over at the box office this upcoming weekend, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves a little battle brewing, a little brew ha ha,

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<v Speaker 2>a brew haha. We have a boo haha if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>because we have two low budget horror movies that are

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning up back rooms and obsession. Obsession isn't its fourth weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and while it has been rising over the last couple,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not expect it to suddenly have a fifty million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, but I did read go shortly before

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<v Speaker 1>we hit the airwaves here that Obsession and back Rooms

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<v Speaker 1>are both expected to beat Masters of the Universe in Britain,

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<v Speaker 1>which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And you just did that British accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oi oi, bloody hell.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is looking like scary movie. You could call

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<v Speaker 2>it Scary Movie six. I know the Waynes Brothers don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do that because they had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with three, four, and five, and Marlin hates those fucking movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't get paid for those, No, they were taken from.

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<v Speaker 1>Them imminent domain. How'd they do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Read a book?

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, my bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe as Zucker Brothers did three, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it was still okay okay either way. It is looking

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<v Speaker 2>like Scary Movie is gonna make about forty five to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars in its opening weekend. It is not

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<v Speaker 2>doing well with critics right now, twenty percent on roddy

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<v Speaker 2>t's thirty five on Metacritic. But here's the thing. The

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<v Speaker 2>audience that wants to see this movie doesn't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I question if there is an audience for the movie. Ogu.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how many people were actually gonna show out

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<v Speaker 1>for Scary Movie six aka Scary Movie three.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, are you gonna see it in the theater?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You know how It's one of those things though,

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<v Speaker 2>where like, now that it's right there in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I'll see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Waynes brothers. Don't get me wrong, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't think I've laughed at the scary movie

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<v Speaker 1>probably since Scary Movie three.

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<v Speaker 2>So Scary Movie two was their last one.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the one with signs crop circles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, no signs crops. That was Scary Movie three.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So that's what I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 2>So I believe that Merrimax went to the Waynes brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and the Wayne's brothers said Okay, we want to make

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<v Speaker 2>more money for this, and they said, nah, it's ours.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, go fuck yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Harvey Weinstein said. Yes, So scary movies up there. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned new to the theaters this weekend as Masters

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<v Speaker 2>of the Universe doing okay with the critics, though seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five on roddy te's fifty four on Meta projected to

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<v Speaker 2>make about thirty to forty million. I'm not quite sure

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<v Speaker 2>who the audience is though, because I've seen people say like,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't really for the people who loved it in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I've seen, And if that's the case, who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to see it? Yeah, it sounds like this movie

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately middled it. They tried to appease the critics, and

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<v Speaker 1>in doing so, they're not pleasing the core values. The

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<v Speaker 1>core values of Masters of the Universe, the couple, not

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<v Speaker 1>the couple. The predominant online chatter has been like, this

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<v Speaker 1>movie's not very good, but the critics don't hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when I see any trailer for this thor Ragnarok.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm not getting that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that they're trying to be thor Rack.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but no, because I read the director whose name

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<v Speaker 1>escapes me at the moment Travis Knight went out of

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<v Speaker 1>his way to see and went out of his way.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was a Transformers movie at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>went out of his way to talk about how he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to not make the movie comedic and not

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<v Speaker 1>make it like ironic, and maybe in doing so he

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<v Speaker 1>left all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the trailers make me think that everyone is like satiring.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can have Jared le doing

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<v Speaker 1>Skeletor and not be have fun with it, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, So I am Jared Letto. That's just my impression

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<v Speaker 2>of Jared Letto. So the returning movies coming back this weekend. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I believe what is the other one?

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<v Speaker 2>The Paul Rudd and Jonas Jonas one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I want to see that. I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to see that, but it's gonna finish in a distant

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<v Speaker 1>six or seven.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did see Roddy TZ one hundred reviews like

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight percent. Oh, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the returning movies to the theater this weekend, really

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<v Speaker 2>this is a huge thing because I saw that AMC

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<v Speaker 2>had its highest theater attendance since twenty nineteen in May

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<v Speaker 2>because of these movies, and that is backrooms. It is

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<v Speaker 2>set up to possibly make another fifty million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>its sophomore weekend. It is already a twenty four's highest

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<v Speaker 2>grossing domestic film of all time, and by the time

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast comes out, it'll be over one hundred million domestic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's truly impressive. You know, I have talked to

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people that have seen the movie who

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<v Speaker 1>an't very impressed. But all that aside, you know, quite

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<v Speaker 1>the accomplishment for the studio, for the director. I also,

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<v Speaker 1>which we should have noted maybe last week or the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this week, Obsession by the way beat Manduin Grogu.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week in seventeen hundred less theaters, which is insane

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<v Speaker 1>to think about. So finished a distance second to backrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>but had way less theaters like that. If you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>bank for your buck, that's real. And between you and I,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one we want to see over backrooms and

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<v Speaker 1>we will get So.

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<v Speaker 2>I have already seen Obsession, and I'm pissed at you

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<v Speaker 2>that you have not seen it yet because I crammed

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<v Speaker 2>it last night and then as soon as I watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>I immediately put on the new rock Star Breakdown. He

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<v Speaker 2>did a great job of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you liked it that much that I loved it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So that's a tease for next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about it today. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>excited to talk about it today, and then Max said,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about it next week and I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't have any time to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But having said that, fucking go see it. And people

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<v Speaker 2>are This is the first movie since et to have

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<v Speaker 2>a higher person on his box office in its second

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<v Speaker 2>week and then again in its third week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's truly. You see it every so often, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a couple times a year, two, three, four, five, handful

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<v Speaker 1>times a year. That the second week hits, but having

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<v Speaker 1>the third week higher than the second week is banana.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing word of mouth and what so I personally like

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<v Speaker 2>I just said, I love it. I recommend it, and

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<v Speaker 2>my wife, who is not a horror person, she also

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<v Speaker 2>loved it because like this, it only dips its toes

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<v Speaker 2>in the horror genre. It's more just about the storytelling.

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<v Speaker 2>And I forget who the actress is who plays the

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<v Speaker 2>main character. She is unbelievable and she is gonna at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the year tip our cap right here,

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<v Speaker 2>she is gonna win for charming my pants off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh all right? And newcomer is she knew?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming I think most of them are newcomers. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also going to nominate the second male lead for Future

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<v Speaker 2>Clark Duke Award.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I like that, not Plomp. This has

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<v Speaker 1>me even more excited for a movie I'm more excited

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<v Speaker 1>for because of our excitement level for it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>still landing. And then Some for You has me excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Mandalorian and Grogu has been pulled from Imax

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<v Speaker 2>theaters because if it's disappointing second weekend in order to

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<v Speaker 2>get he Man in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not gonna hit two hundred million domestic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be the worst Star Wars movie at the

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<v Speaker 1>box office ever. We talked about that being a possibility

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<v Speaker 1>and it becoming falling short of Solo. It's not even

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get remotely close to.

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<v Speaker 2>Solo because in order to make a huge amount of money,

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<v Speaker 2>you not only need to get people to go and

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<v Speaker 2>see your movie, you need to get people to go

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<v Speaker 2>and see it multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And the way you do that is getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the market of kids. The kids are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that want to see it over and over,

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<v Speaker 1>which reminds me, have you shown your son? Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>I am intrigued. I mean, you make a good point

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe it possibly is for kids, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know because the kids weren't watching the Disney Plus show Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mandalorian and Grogu. Yeah, I don't think the kids

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<v Speaker 2>are watching it. Also, well, I think the show was

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<v Speaker 2>more adult orient that's what that movie is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. I don't think kids were watching

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<v Speaker 1>the show, so you can't expect kids to be gassed

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<v Speaker 1>up for this little Green guy, which also makes me

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<v Speaker 1>think that the child eyes them up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more because it was a new, first time audience for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I remember watching season two of The

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<v Speaker 2>Mandalorian and Grogu with my two year old son and

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<v Speaker 2>he pointed to the frog Lady and said, I want

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<v Speaker 2>that toy. I want that action figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking frog Lady. I forgot about that bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>So big weekend at the theaters, go see Obsession and

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<v Speaker 2>backrooms are gonna see back Rooms soon too. News demp

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<v Speaker 2>On our final trailer for super Girl, we see her

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<v Speaker 2>getting her iconic Supergirl outfit from her cousin Clark, got

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<v Speaker 2>a little more Lobo, a little more of Jason Momoa.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they need to tread lightly on how much

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<v Speaker 2>they use Lobo, and then finally we see more of

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<v Speaker 2>her murder is vengeance after the poisoning of her dog.

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<v Speaker 1>This trailer in particular piqued my interest because obviously she's

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<v Speaker 1>a different character than Superman, but going out of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell you, oh, oh they're different.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going out of here their way to tell you that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a little more unhinged. So I hope we get

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<v Speaker 1>a couple like really fun kills in this, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>want her to kill people. Yeah, Superman's like not really

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<v Speaker 1>killing people.

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<v Speaker 2>I want murder. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I'm pretty intrigued by this movie. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>expecting it to be my favorite movie ever. But if

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<v Speaker 1>this can get to like the first wonder Woman levels

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<v Speaker 1>and exceed that a little bit, I think we're in

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<v Speaker 1>for a really good movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm expecting a better finish.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I agree, And it's gonna be probably inherently

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<v Speaker 1>more fun than that movie too. So I'm fully expecting

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<v Speaker 1>like a thirty six dog movie.

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<v Speaker 2>HEREKU take it down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck you.

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<v Speaker 2>News Dope cut our first Luke first look, not luth

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<v Speaker 2>at Lex Luthor's warsuit. It has been teased on social

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<v Speaker 2>media for Man of Tomorrow. Also, we found out that

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<v Speaker 2>the movie Man of Tomorrow the next Superman movie, not

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<v Speaker 2>specifically just to Superman, but it is two years after Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which makes sense. You know, Luthor's probably found his

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<v Speaker 1>way out of prison built back up. It does seem like,

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<v Speaker 1>even though this shit has leaked, my understanding is that

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<v Speaker 1>these two are gonna team up at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. So well, what we're seeing release is probably

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<v Speaker 1>first act type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>News Damp Robert Pattinson on when The Batman two kept

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<v Speaker 2>on getting delayed, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I was being distracted. I said my understanding, which

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<v Speaker 1>made me think of the office scene where they're like, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>what made you think that? It was my understanding? Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>David Wallace. Robert Pattinson said, I'm like, well, I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>another movie in between, and then I ended up doing

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking a lot of movies. That was via GQ magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Love a good swear. I'm sorry I didn't do a

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<v Speaker 1>Cockamaney accent there said Amaney.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we are all over the Brits today.

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<v Speaker 1>Pattinson has been in a lot of fucking movies these

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, just just in a holding pattern

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the Batman too.

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<v Speaker 2>I also like the report. I think he did one

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<v Speaker 2>of those magazines with Tom Holland and Matt Damon Playgirl.

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<v Speaker 2>He did Playgirl. They are They all laid out on

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<v Speaker 2>a giant, emptied out bear touch tips, so he was

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<v Speaker 2>the only one. So when every actor was offered their

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<v Speaker 2>role in the Odyssey, everyone immediately said yes to Christopher Nolan,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they asked Pattinson, he said, yeah, let me

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<v Speaker 2>see the script.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe if I have time.

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<v Speaker 2>If I like the script, I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is amazing that, like that should be the question

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<v Speaker 1>that people ask. But Nolan's gotten to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>he's even after Tenant, he's still bulletproof.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's Nolan right now has a monopoly on whenever

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to do a movie. Any actor that he

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<v Speaker 2>wants in that movie because of some of the other

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<v Speaker 2>slop that they have to be in, they'll immediately do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's him in Villaneuve, right, those are the two that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Nolan over Villaneuve, and maybe after the

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<v Speaker 2>Dune stuff is over, villa Neuve will be able to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think no one. Yeah, in terms of, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what he's earned and what he's deserved. But I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say better then greater.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying better than. I'm saying like he gets

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<v Speaker 2>immediate yeses, fair news damp Kevin Figy, well, I just

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<v Speaker 2>skipped one. I'll jump back to whatever. Well whatever. Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Feige says that ant Man is more of an elder

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<v Speaker 2>Statesman now dealing with other new characters and Avengers Doomsday.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this gu and it got me thinking. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw Quantumnia and everything that he's gone through, from being

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<v Speaker 1>the one that sort of you know, helped save the

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<v Speaker 1>Avengers and Endgame and then dealing with Quantumania. This man's

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<v Speaker 1>been through a fucking lot. Like outside of our main three,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's been through the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Hulk Helkes live in a cushy life. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to kill himself. Live in a cushy life, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>he spit the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bull I'd give you Loki. Loki would be the Natasha.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's dead hawk guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's deaf, deafish. So I like the idea, and this

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<v Speaker 1>play is perfectly into Paul Rudd's best traits too. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea of him being like over the hill,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like all right, can someone else please do this? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that old joke if you can't do teach,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you can't teach, teach Jim he feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a gym teacher. Yes, yes, because he also he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a great hero. He just kind of sure he fell

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<v Speaker 2>into it.

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<v Speaker 1>This role should suit him well in the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a shot at Jim Teachers, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's from School of Rock. The iconic Mike White movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta see the sophomore or junior year in Jim

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<v Speaker 1>once from Robert Fratto because I tried too hard. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying too hard in Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of that with you on this podcast sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>too often, almost every problem like he's trying too hard, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so hard, dope. The Russo Brothers teased a bit big

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<v Speaker 2>surprise for Avengers Doomsday at SXSW London on June second.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was that surprise? Mac?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, that is south by Southwest. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's easier to say than sx S.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have changed the notes then because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, these motherfuckers they know exactly what they're doing. We

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be fucking eighteen years into your goddamn universe for

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<v Speaker 1>you to tease this big surprise in it to be

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<v Speaker 1>fucking like a doom coffee mugg or whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Yeah, whatever the fuck it actually was a

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<v Speaker 1>Laverian flag fucking coffee mugg and Crowns. Get the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>out of here, Get out of my face with that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have been waiting for two months for a doomsday trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>which you showed at some fucking event in April and

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<v Speaker 1>you still haven't given it to us. You're just you're

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<v Speaker 1>just pulling my you're yanking my balls right now. My

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<v Speaker 1>balls are in a vice script. Please give it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mac was so excited about this, and he never wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do extra work. He said that he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do a surprise news dump with just this, specially when

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<v Speaker 2>they announced a special one. And I'm like, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll I'm all about doing more content. Sure, and Mac

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do more, so I gave him a c

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<v Speaker 2>but then I said, okay, let's see what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a fucking bag of coffee. Incredible, It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love First of all, bags of coffee are

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<v Speaker 1>very throwable of really nice thing. The throw too great.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to huck a bag of beans at

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<v Speaker 1>these two fucks right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So not ground up, full beans, full bean, full bean

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<v Speaker 2>news damp. Tom Holland said he wants to repay the

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<v Speaker 2>favor and have Spider Man up here in an MCU

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<v Speaker 2>TV episode with the Punisher Let's say what rate it

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<v Speaker 2>all version of Spider Man looks Mike the Empire Magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good Tom, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We know, as a matter of legality, here. This is

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna happen. So he's never gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be in twenty five episodes of The Punisher.

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<v Speaker 2>That won't let me do my choice.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had my choice, I'd be in.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the set every day for a month

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<v Speaker 2>and they said, Tom, you stay on that sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the question I do have. Yeah, Marvel Television, So

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<v Speaker 1>if they do the one off like the Punisher thing,

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<v Speaker 1>LL like.

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<v Speaker 2>It isn't a TV show if it's especially I think

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<v Speaker 2>if it's straight to streaming, it counts as that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so he's never we're never going to see him,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're never.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. So. Yeah, he's that OI. You see

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<v Speaker 2>this fucking Wolverine PS five game trailer, Mac.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's has been a few years of the making.

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<v Speaker 1>Here they tease this two three years ago, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been looking forward to this since.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking the other day I don't use

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<v Speaker 2>my PS five anymore, maybe I should sell it. But

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<v Speaker 2>then this came out almost a day later, all the

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<v Speaker 2>way back in I'm so excited that I still have

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<v Speaker 2>a PS five and I just can't have it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is full of blood. When he gets blasted in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>His uniform still sets, it's still all torn up, but

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<v Speaker 2>his regenerative body forms back and it is blood all

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<v Speaker 2>over the suit, but his body is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks like they spent an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time dedicated to when something happens to you, you see

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<v Speaker 1>it and it stays there, which I really appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not an open world. It is linear, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with. I'm okay with that too, because sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when it's an open world, there's not as much focus

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<v Speaker 2>on like let's get to this, this and this. It's more, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>go explore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I got lost playing the Spider Man games because

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<v Speaker 1>that was pseudo open world. It was linear the story,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't have to do it all right in

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<v Speaker 1>a row because all I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was doing I was web slinging and doing kickflips. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So this game is set in that world that the

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<v Speaker 1>Insomnia Spider Man is in.

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<v Speaker 2>Spider Man's not going to appear at least not this

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<v Speaker 2>first one, and Wolverine is the only playable character, but

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<v Speaker 2>other characters will show up to either aid or be

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<v Speaker 2>his friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which you know, I'm okay with we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any game like this yet. We haven't. They made a

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<v Speaker 1>game for the Origins Wolverine movie and people like that

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<v Speaker 1>because of a sweet game, the Claw Action. I never

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<v Speaker 1>played it, so we've been dying for this. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>wanting this for a while now. When we get to

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<v Speaker 1>a second game, because obviously they always do second games,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a little bit more of that, a little

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<v Speaker 1>more open world, a little more maybe multi character type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But it is interesting to note that in

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<v Speaker 1>this universe, the Insomniac Spider Man universe, the Avengers exist,

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<v Speaker 1>but the X Men don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do see Gene Gray in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Wolverine's gonna be on some other X team. Jean

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<v Speaker 1>Gray's in it, saber Tooths in it, There's a few

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<v Speaker 1>other notable characters. So I think that's gonna piss a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people off. But ultimately, I don't really care

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<v Speaker 1>about the story. I care about the gore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like they're making us play as a shitty

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<v Speaker 2>X Men and then Wolverine shows up and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be him. I want to be that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, no, you can't. You gotta be.

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<v Speaker 1>Jubilee Jubilee was gonna be my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think of someone a little bit worse.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, Jubilee's okay. But also, oh, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about fucking that's ninety seven. Who's dumb. Oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm forgot. They give us for X ninety seven last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, come in my face, Come lord. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks so good. It looks like they're building upon

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<v Speaker 1>everything that we want them to build upon. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>just doing some random shit, you know, the t's that

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<v Speaker 1>we get left off with at the end of season one,

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<v Speaker 1>with the time travel and Apocalypse. It looks awesome. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks amazing. I'm so excited for.

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<v Speaker 2>And the X Men. They're scattered across timelines and Apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this line. It made me laugh. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>looks like I'm going to the nineties. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>right there with the Apocalypse right way.

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<v Speaker 1>I love and even if this is a two season arc,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that they're gonna have to battle Apocalypse during

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<v Speaker 1>different time frames and then come back together, probably in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties, to defeat them. And I know it's got

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<v Speaker 1>It's got me hard goo, It's got me full show.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to retcon your Diginal X Men ninety

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<v Speaker 2>seven season one? Score?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because what I talked about is hot where it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lead, and it's leading exactly where I want. Season

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<v Speaker 1>one served a purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the right side of history. I said forty

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<v Speaker 2>What fuck you would I give it thirty eight or

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<v Speaker 2>something like? That's some stupid number. So you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>fucking hate this show thirty eight hot dogs, whereas I

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<v Speaker 2>am just off the trailer. It's gonna be a forty

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<v Speaker 2>dog season.

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<v Speaker 1>See. But now you've run into the issue. Goo. If

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<v Speaker 1>season two is better than season one, you can't give

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<v Speaker 1>it forty one hot dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be just a higher on the tier.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how tears work, so I don't whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't done that. We haven't done this. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at the numbers the other day. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe we have five hundred and fifty eight standalone like

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<v Speaker 2>regular episodes. Then you add the I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred news dumps. Okay, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Great quts?

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<v Speaker 2>What would be a great question? We're just out here

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<v Speaker 2>having fun news dump about having fun? Ma He Score

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<v Speaker 2>says he's got his little fingers dipped in that AI.

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<v Speaker 2>He is partner. He's a partner and advisor for a

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<v Speaker 2>generative AI startup. I forget what it's called, but he

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<v Speaker 2>used that AI to storyboard his upcoming movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who should not have any say, influence or

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<v Speaker 1>involvement whatsoever with artificial intelligence. It's old white dudes who

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<v Speaker 1>are probably pretty blind. You know that, today, yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>every day since AI videos have been a thing. Marty

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<v Speaker 1>Scorsese has fallen for AI videos. I don't want this

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<v Speaker 1>fella touching anything with AI. Have an advisor, have someone

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<v Speaker 1>that works under him that utilizes it, but please keep

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<v Speaker 1>the olds away from the AI.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad, at least once a week when I go

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<v Speaker 2>to their house, we'll say, check out this video, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way that someone caught on camera and Orca

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<v Speaker 2>fighting a polar bear.

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<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend had a too long, two day long argument

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<v Speaker 1>with her father via text because he sent her a

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<v Speaker 1>video of two ducks dancing synchronized dance and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>check this out, and she's like, Dad, that's clearly AI.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, it's not, no, no. They argued about

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<v Speaker 1>it for two days. He's sending all sorts. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, he's He's. What they're stuck at is they

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand that AI has circumfented CG, So they don't

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<v Speaker 1>think someone can do a CGI version of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>which may may may or may not be true. But

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<v Speaker 1>they don't understand that AI has jumped that gap, that

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<v Speaker 1>AI can do fucking anything, Like just.

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<v Speaker 2>Go into every video assuming that it's fake, and then I,

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<v Speaker 2>like us, assume every one of these podcasts they're all fake,

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<v Speaker 2>these are all AI podcasts. But the thing with Scorsese

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<v Speaker 2>is he is He's captain Cinema, He's captain film. He's

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<v Speaker 2>captain the art of making a movie. Captain eyebrows, big

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<v Speaker 2>thick eyebrows that Mac wants to non but the man

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<v Speaker 2>that is championed making movies the right way AI.

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<v Speaker 1>And that thus proves the point too, where like everything

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, if Marty Scorsese at one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen years old, can utilize AI, it is useful. It

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<v Speaker 1>has its place.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying, so you're siding with AI. Who would

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more saying that Mary's a bit of a hypocrite.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he one hundred per Yeah, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, as long as we a great news Dump. Zack

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<v Speaker 2>Snyder is set to write and direct a new adaptation

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<v Speaker 2>of Escape from New York. This is via thhr And

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<v Speaker 2>before you start yelling like a maniac, let's not forget

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<v Speaker 2>that he has done some good remakes.

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<v Speaker 1>His best movie is possibly a remake of Donna the Dead.

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<v Speaker 2>So there we go, news Dump.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodbye James Gunn I think it was yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of the writers. No, I just news dumped.

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<v Speaker 1>You keuncked on me too quick. I had another bag

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<v Speaker 1>of beans left that I then threw Zack Snyder's head.

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<v Speaker 1>I got one waiting for Ryan Johnson too.

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<v Speaker 2>How dare you now if you got a new teaser

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<v Speaker 2>for Coyote Vers act me, it's a parody of Avengers

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<v Speaker 2>dooms Day. Remember when they were like Steve Rogers will return,

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<v Speaker 2>Coyotie Verse actme? Did bugs Bunny will return?

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<v Speaker 1>Baseline? Where does this movie need to be to not

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<v Speaker 1>disappoint you?

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<v Speaker 2>Just come out, Just just come out, just come out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>But all after all this kerfuffle, if it's dog shit,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be really disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say so, like I explain, and I show

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<v Speaker 2>my son. So many of the characters that I watched

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, and I'll see him get excited or

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be like, oh, do they make new ones? Do

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<v Speaker 2>they have toys for this whatever? And when I show

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<v Speaker 2>him Looney Tune stuff, zero interest.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I loved Taz as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first one that I showed him. I showed

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<v Speaker 2>him the first appearance of Taz and he's like, this

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem like accurate to nature. I'm like, well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cartoon. Yeah, he's a future zoologists, but sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of liked Taz, but he wasn't over the

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<v Speaker 2>moon over bugs Bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying I should show him some Daffy Duck,

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<v Speaker 2>some porky pig, Speedy Gonzalez. Yeah, pull up the old

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<v Speaker 2>Pepela pews and say hey, you can't do this no more? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he like what am I looking? Does he like Muppets?

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<v Speaker 2>He loved Muppets for a hot second, all about Muppet babies.

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<v Speaker 2>I would then show him some Muppet stuff. Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>new Muppet Babies. They don't sing that song he liked Animal, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my dad's favorite. That's your dad. Oh, he's a rocker.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad's a rocker, like that movie with Rain Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>The rocker, I'm pretty sure is what it's called. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a drummer. Sure, he lived in someone's basement.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unfortunate that rain Wilson never really found footing outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the office.

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<v Speaker 2>Having said that, I think he's doing okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's doing okay. It's it's somewhat similar to

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Offerman never really found his footing outside of him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but nick Offerman has those niche roles like whenever

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<v Speaker 2>someone needs a burly wilderness man, they let's call Nick Offerman.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd also he does a lot of voice over work too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Rain Wilson, unfortunately, is just in that like

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight reached Costanza levels. Record You're just gonna be seen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>combination of those two. You're just gonna be seen that

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<v Speaker 1>way always and forever.

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<v Speaker 2>So once again credit to Julia Louis Dreyfus. Yeah, Old

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<v Speaker 2>Adventures of New Christine News Dump. And then finally we

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<v Speaker 2>got a trailer for the movie. By any means, this

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<v Speaker 2>will star Yahya abdul Mateen the second and Mark Wahlberg.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Wahlberg is playing I forget the mobster's name. It's

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<v Speaker 2>based off a true story, but it's a hit man

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<v Speaker 2>who teams up with the FBI and they investigate murders

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<v Speaker 2>of civil rights leaders in the nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't love that Wahlberg's in it, but Yaya has

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<v Speaker 1>been in a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah Yeah, it's great And that's the reason why I

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<v Speaker 2>put it in news dump. If this was just a

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Wahlberg FBI movie, I'm all set. But this is that.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Wahlberg, he transforms his look quite a bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but did so. Did you see the trailer? No, his

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<v Speaker 2>voice is not transformed. His voice is. At one point

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<v Speaker 2>he shoots a cop and then Yah Yah is like,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, you shot a cop? And then Mark Wahlberg goes,

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<v Speaker 2>are there any witnesses?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a good question for you. What was the last

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Wahlberg movie that you genuinely enjoyed?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the other guys definitely pops out to twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Also the other guys I've watched a lot of who's

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<v Speaker 2>the director for obsession? Oh? That comedy guy was a

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<v Speaker 2>Curry Barker. Curry Barker. It might be so his favorite

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<v Speaker 2>comedy of all time. The other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The other guy is just criminally underrated. It's probably I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's in my rush more of Will Ferrell movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was thinking about that the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>You have step brothers, you have Anchorman. Then it gets

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<v Speaker 1>dicey from there. I would have the other guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation after those two elves there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll talk more about Barker in the Obsession episode next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of like his comedy sketches. Have you seen them?

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a couple of really funny ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he also so they feel like at

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<v Speaker 2>their best they're bad. I think you should leave sketches

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<v Speaker 2>and it's more extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more. There's plenty more misses, but the funny stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty funny. Let me quit give you a quick

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<v Speaker 1>wallberg rundown. I liked Ted. Let's let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten and do everything after.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an executive producer on Ballers.

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<v Speaker 1>So twenty ten, we had the other guys in the fighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Ted is twenty twelve. Then you know what I liked

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<v Speaker 1>Loan Survivor. Actually that was twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be the last one.

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Two Guns was underwhelming.

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Pain and Gain was underwell, a Matrio stay that's based

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<v Speaker 2>off a true story, and he's real.

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<v Speaker 1>Transformers Age of Extinction was not good. The Entourage movie

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<v Speaker 1>he was in, Ted two was okay, Daddy saw him

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<v Speaker 1>not very good.

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<v Speaker 2>They made two of those though, so then yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>then he.

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<v Speaker 1>Went on this Run to Deep Water Horizon, Patriots Day,

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<v Speaker 1>Transformers The Last Night not good. So it's been thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>years since we've gotten a good Wallberg movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay made a second Family Plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncharted was okay. He's made a lot of stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>not terrible, but it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was down checks out at the top of next week,

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<v Speaker 2>we are gonna do Obsession. You better fucking see Obsession.

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<v Speaker 1>You piece by next week.

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<v Speaker 2>By next week, go and see it this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I might I fuck it. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. I'm hoping to see it in an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty minutes in the watertime.

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<v Speaker 2>It stars Squirmy Wormy, not Clark Duke.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue is I gotta get ready for work in

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<v Speaker 1>between now and then, and if I'm not, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>go see the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the lead actress so much. The other actress

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<v Speaker 2>also good in it. Also, the second lead is his

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<v Speaker 2>buddy from those comedy videos I did. I did recognize that,

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<v Speaker 2>which I also didn't love because I don't love him

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<v Speaker 2>in the comedy videos. So then when he pops up there,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I already don't like this guy. Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a me issue? Bo me issue? Possibly it's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a question I have for you. Is Obsession your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite movie on the year?

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, But also I've been underwhelmed, yeah, by what

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<v Speaker 2>we've gotten so far. I mean Project Hail Mary was number.

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<v Speaker 1>One, Okay, so it unseats that I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>a Hail Mary like thirty five hot Dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's a little something for you too, is that

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<v Speaker 2>by the time we talk about Obsession next week, I

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<v Speaker 2>might have already seen Scary Movie. So let's see if

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<v Speaker 2>it holds out.

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<v Speaker 1>I have Project Hill Mary thirty six, the Bone Tuble

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty five. So those are the two top contenders

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<v Speaker 1>on the year so far, and I'm expecting this to

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<v Speaker 1>come in above those based on what you're telling me.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, not to waste more time, but Scary Movie did

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<v Speaker 2>come back at the perfect time of now. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many horror movies that they're ready to probably make another

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<v Speaker 2>one in two years with these new movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I don't think the appetites there for it.

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<v Speaker 2>If it makes a hundred million, they're gonna make another one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it is because it's old school comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care who they offend.

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be like, oh, you're wearing a mask.

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<v Speaker 2>It's COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that funny?

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<v Speaker 2>You've already seen the movie. It is dep