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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Mannon show.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where to draw the line, so pass

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Speaker 2: me the violin, cross your fingers. DULEC said on yesterday's

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Speaker 2: show that Rogers might not play. I haven't seen any

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Speaker 2: updates from practice yet today, but Dulec wasn't convinced.

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Speaker 1: Neither am I.

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Speaker 2: Now Rogers did practice yesterday, but its verbiage about safety

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Speaker 2: and cleared. Now. I don't feel like it's a lost

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Speaker 2: cause if Rudolph plays, and I don't feel like it's

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Speaker 2: a definite win if if Rogers plays. In fact, In fact,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like Chicago's gonna win. The Steelers defense

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Speaker 2: won't stop Chicago's offense, won't stop their running game. Chicago

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Speaker 2: gonna out physical to Steelers on the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: So that's how I think that game is gonna go.

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Speaker 2: And we got the River Hunts Championship game at Tulsa

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Speaker 2: on Saturday at noon tomorrow, come watch the game with

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Speaker 2: me at the Shiloh Plate and Poor on Mount Washington.

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Speaker 2: Kickoff is at noon. That's River Hans versus Tulsa for

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Speaker 2: all the marbles at Shiloh Plate and Poor on Mount

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Speaker 2: Washington tomorrow at noon. Penguins hosts of Minnesota. Tonight hockey's

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Speaker 2: the best, but is at Georgia Tech. In a game,

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Speaker 2: it would matter if Pitt loses one hundred to ten.

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Speaker 2: And by the way that one side of lost the

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, combined with Nardoozi being an absolute ass prior

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Speaker 2: to the game and then calling the time out to

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Speaker 2: get that garbage time touchdown with five seconds left, it

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Speaker 2: has killed a lot of the pit football buzz absolutely

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Speaker 2: killed a lot of the pit football bus.

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Speaker 1: Not the diehards, but the.

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Speaker 2: Cash were like, Wow, that sucked, and the coaches an ass.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna talk about it, and in respect to that,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But mostly we got the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Rogers only took snaps from the shotgun at practice, and

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Speaker 2: that's not good if they operate only out of the shotgun.

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Speaker 2: Because Rogers has the bummy wrist, he shouldn't play that

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Speaker 2: narrows down so badly what they can do on offense.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Tommy Radio tom of Rodgers can only

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Speaker 2: work out of the shotgun. Doesn't that eliminate play action

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Speaker 2: and eliminate Rogers' decision making it the line somewhat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt, Arthur Smith's offense requires a decent

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Speaker 3: amount of going under center, and Aaron Rodgers when he's

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Speaker 3: at his best throughout his entire career, when he was

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Speaker 3: four time MVP, Aaron Rodgers Mark, he needed to go

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Speaker 3: under center. He was great at operating from under center.

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Speaker 3: It completely hinders him. I saw him also say that

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Speaker 3: he could do some pistol stuff, and he's done that

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Speaker 3: in the past as a workaround. Ain't the same. You

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Speaker 3: gotta get under that center's ass and execute that play action.

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Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do, Mark, And you're right about

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Speaker 3: the play action.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna do that. Well, you don't have to.

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Speaker 2: But Rogers does rick the center with Zach Effrin. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I've said too much.

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Speaker 3: And if his risk can't then what's the point. Just

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Speaker 3: put Rudolph out there for this game. I really think

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Speaker 3: you have a chance to win it with him.

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Speaker 2: Did you say risk or fist? I said, rist. I

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Speaker 2: think now you heard Rogers's verbiage. Tom, he left some

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Speaker 2: wiggle room, he left some doc, didn't he. I mean

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Speaker 2: he didn't use the word Definitely. Whenever I talk about

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Speaker 2: whether guy's gonna play or not, until I hear the

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Speaker 2: word definitely.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to air on the side of disbelief.

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Speaker 3: I feel you, but I kind of think he's playing.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, his verbiage does leave a little bit

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Speaker 3: of doubt. But I just think he's gonna go through

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Speaker 3: practice today and I'm looking right now, still haven't seen

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Speaker 3: any outdate. Maybe he was calling a bluff or bluff

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Speaker 3: I guess, but I just think that he is gonna

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Speaker 3: do whatever it takes to get on the field, and

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Speaker 3: as long as he's able to get through it pain wise,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna give the thumbs up. And I think Coach

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Speaker 3: T's gonna put him out there. I don't think Coach

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Speaker 3: T would ever step in in this circumstances, be like,

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Speaker 3: even though you're saying, yes, I'm benching you for this game,

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Speaker 2: But that would retire actual coaching in balls. Now, now,

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Speaker 2: what about xanax? What about painkillers? What I think he's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right, some needle just shot right into that risk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta like the xan x that kind of

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Speaker 2: that's bad.

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Speaker 3: It'll mellow him out too much, Yeah it would.

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Speaker 2: It would be sensory underload, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 3: But Rogers someone that likes to dabble in drugs recreationally.

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Speaker 3: I like, you know, just shooting him up. He can

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Speaker 3: he can handle that, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 3: use as much you'd use for a horse. Maybe that

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Speaker 3: tranquilizer in old school, right that Sean William Scott had

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Speaker 3: that went into will Ferrell's neck, used that awesome use that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that'll get Rogers jacked up enough to play this

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Speaker 3: game and win iwask a dark room, pull out all

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Speaker 3: the stops. Uh and if there is that it and

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Speaker 3: issues of safety unquote. It feels like Rudolph will play

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Speaker 3: at some point, don't it.

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Speaker 2: And maybe Rogers at some point, maybe even before the game,

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Speaker 2: who knows, makes a business decision. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the Steelers offensive line. I know the Bears don't

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Speaker 3: generate much of a pass rush, but the Steelers offensive

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Speaker 3: line has looked really shape the past couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like we're an obvious play away for

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Speaker 3: him just having to fall awkwardly, maybe getting stepped on again,

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Speaker 3: landing on that wrist, and then you have to just

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Speaker 3: trot Rudolph out anyway, and then maybe you lose Rogers

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Speaker 3: for the Bills game and then the Ravens game.

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Speaker 2: See the more I really look at this game, the

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Speaker 2: more I think Chicago's plays.

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Speaker 3: Gonna kill him, kill them. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: They have the number two offense, the number four rushing attack.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers defense stinks outside of takeaways. That Steelers defense stinks.

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Speaker 3: Bears defense ain't that grady either outside of takeaways, which

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Speaker 3: they leave the league in and they don't kill teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you have a breakdown to offense versus offense,

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Speaker 2: and the Bears is better. Oh, their Bears is better.

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Speaker 2: I think Steelers offense. Tom, I can't believe the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have won six games. I have no idea how the

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Speaker 3: I think the Bears can definitely win the game, but

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go to kill the They just don't

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Speaker 3: kill anybody, and they haven't played anybody really like this

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Speaker 3: is probably the best team the Bears have played this year. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: do you think the Steelers are better than the Vikings

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Speaker 3: and the Cowboys? Those are the only two other contenders.

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Speaker 3: They beat the Vikings, Yeah, so that cross them off. Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: They'd probably lose to the Boys. That offense is sick

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Speaker 2: Then shut down pickets. They would contain him in CD.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that. I'm gonna talk about this more later.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Cede Lamb admitted that him and Pikets

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Speaker 2: got bench for that first series because they missed curfew

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Speaker 2: and were out drinking in Las Vegas. I heard they

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Speaker 3: I did see that story, and I saw that somebody

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Speaker 3: said that Ceedee Lamb was puking in a trash can,

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Speaker 3: like caught him like at six in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Right, But he also said he could hold his legs.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: He refuted that part of it, not denying that they

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Speaker 3: were out and missing curfew, but just the part about

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Speaker 3: puking in a trash can, because that ain't me.

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Speaker 2: That's not how ced Lamb. I could hold my liquor, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, you can miss curfew and drink

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Speaker 2: and still playing the game as long as you're a

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Speaker 2: functioning alcoholic. Were good, but he described as a functioning alcoholic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. It's all clear, then, Tom or the.

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Speaker 2: Steelers soft I've been asking that question all week. Who

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Speaker 2: was a physical force on that team besides you know

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Speaker 2: the usual suspects. Mount Washington on offense, and Ramsey and

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Speaker 3: I mean you took all the answers that I was

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Speaker 2: Just Rastle physical when he's Availa when he's not hurt.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the problem. Maybe he's too physical, he hurts

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Speaker 3: himself too much. But yeah, Ramsey was the one that

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Speaker 3: Doug Er got here like three weeks ago and he

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Speaker 3: far as a physical player is concerned, you do need

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Speaker 3: some nastiness and they just don't have it. I got

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Speaker 3: it's a ton of nasty. I bet you he's a

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Speaker 3: little nasty.

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Speaker 2: Hard to tell what you know? Offensive lineman on the

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Speaker 2: network feedbah I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, so everybody I talked to he says he's

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Speaker 2: Billy probably is too.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got a nasty The.

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Speaker 2: Center does assume the fetal position, but he's illiterate. That

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Speaker 3: I think his best attribute is run blocking, too, which

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Speaker 3: is just all nastiness. So I think there's a little

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Speaker 3: hard edge on these guys.

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Speaker 2: Ramsey is proof that it helps to see a guy

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Speaker 2: play every game because Ramsey has much more phish physical

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I think it's such an obvious

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Speaker 3: thing to move to safety, right because that would be

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Speaker 3: the biggest hang up a corner. Going to safety usually

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Speaker 3: doesn't work because corners don't want to tackle. Corners don't

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Speaker 3: want to get physical. Ramsey embraces that. I think he

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Speaker 3: could be in a great safety. I think I saw

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Speaker 3: Ben saying this podcast either this week or last week

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Speaker 3: he could be in all pro safety. I don't know

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Speaker 3: about that far, but his coverage is going to be

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Speaker 3: real good as far as the safety goes coming from corner,

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Speaker 3: and that physicality is impressive.

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Speaker 2: He could be a Pro Bowl safety playing the flag

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Speaker 2: football game when five others opt out, rip rip off

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Speaker 2: the flag.

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Speaker 1: And strangle Jamar Chase with it.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Mount Washington, I mentioned a moment ago he's

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Speaker 2: listed at two sixty four. He admitted he's three to eleven,

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Speaker 2: and speaking as a fat guy who's lied about his

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Speaker 2: he's still lying. He weighs more than me now thanks

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Speaker 3: I bet you he's in like three twenty right, three

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Speaker 3: twenty three twenty five range.

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Speaker 2: Three point forty wouldn't shock me, because you could see

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Speaker 2: in that podcast when they asked him what his weight

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Speaker 2: was point blank, he was a little bashful already, like

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Speaker 2: he was like, I kind of don't want to say.

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Speaker 3: He even said I haven't weighed myself in a while

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Speaker 3: on one of them.

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Speaker 1: Would he be embarrassed?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: His weight's a big weapon.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but maybe he didn't want to reveal it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't want to reveal the true number like

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Speaker 3: it would give something away. But someone he was like,

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Speaker 3: I didn't get waided in a while, and the one

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Speaker 3: player was like, that's bs. You get weighed like every week,

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Speaker 3: so of course you know what your weight is, and

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Speaker 3: And did you also ever use it when you were

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Speaker 4: Way?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, way, stupid question. There was there any significance to

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Speaker 3: two seventy six, Like why you chose that?

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Speaker 2: I don't put it out of the sky.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but yeah, you got to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was dumb. And the numbers don't why and

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Speaker 1: Now with with Washington, that way will catch up.

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Speaker 2: Tom. You can't be a tight end your whole career

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Speaker 3: When he starts to lose that step, maybe that's when

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Speaker 1: That good a blocker.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question.

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Speaker 3: blocker period, But can he do it Mark for like

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Speaker 3: sixty to sixty five plays against a Miles Garrett, a

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby, You know what I mean? Like you're never

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Speaker 3: That's a huge question mark when it comes to him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'd do? Have another cheeseburger.

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Speaker 2: Nine it's the Mark. Jador Sanders, the Cleveland rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be watching that. That's after the Steeler game.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget. You can join me for the Steeler game.

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Speaker 2: A watch party at Marino's American Eatery in Greensburg. I

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Speaker 1: But it is good, So see it.

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Speaker 2: Marino's American Eatery for the Steeler game Sunday, Chador at Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I assume he won't miss Kurfey like Ceedee Lamb and

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Speaker 1: It's outlandish and silly.

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Speaker 2: The Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland coach, a two time Coach of

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Speaker 2: ain't never gonna make it. That's not fair to Stefanski. Really,

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Speaker 2: the way that team's run, with the owner meddling and

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Speaker 2: I give Stefanski at credit for not just bolting. I

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Speaker 2: absolute minutes, and I still like that that Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 2: and George Pickett's story Miss Curfew out drinking just got

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Speaker 2: bench for series, which is no punishment at all. Lamb

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Speaker 2: hold his liquor. I just absolutely love football, Tom. If

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. I've never been to Vegas, so if

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Speaker 3: Aldo rain showed out situation. You're not really going to

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Speaker 1: I get chewed out. You're the best player on that team.

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Speaker 2: Now, if it had been Pickens by himself, does he

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Speaker 3: No, Pickens is playing extremely well this year. If it's

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Speaker 2: You've never been to Vegas? Nope?

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Speaker 1: Atlantic City.

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Speaker 3: Been to Atlantic City more than a couple times.

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Speaker 1: I'd like it.

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Speaker 3: I split my head open if you remember a few

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Speaker 3: months back at their friend's wedding there so not great

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Speaker 3: recent memories, but I always enjoy going to Atlantic City.

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Speaker 2: Tom. I hate to get personal, but you've been dating

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Speaker 2: your now wife, like we've talked about this week since

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Speaker 2: you were eleven. Yes, do you feel like you've missed

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Speaker 2: out on anything, No.

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Speaker 3: Not at all.

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Speaker 1: What about drugs?

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Speaker 3: Who says I'm not allowed to do drugs because I've

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Speaker 2: Okay with that mine, give me your perspective on the

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Speaker 3: However, trupidaciously, I'm leaning towards the Steelers. I just don't

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Speaker 3: think the Bears are that good. I really don't. They

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Speaker 2: I agree they haven't beaten anybody. But their offensive numbers

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Speaker 3: Against garage teams. And I'm not saying the Steelers are

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: They got a game against the Steelers that brand name.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're gonna add some legitimacy to the season.

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Speaker 3: By beating the Steelers. Whether you think the Steelers are

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like the Steels are gonna pull out

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Speaker 2: I think Kayleb Boyams might have a coming off party

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Speaker 2: against what's perceived to be a good defense. Well, this

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Speaker 2: is a defense that is terrible. You know, you know

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Speaker 1: I think he might rip them apart. I think the

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Speaker 1: Steelers defense is terrible.

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Speaker 3: It's getting better in the run category, it's trending up.

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Speaker 2: And again they can use their veteran guile to worry

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, though, Mark, they're so bad against

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Speaker 3: You can rip yardage against them, and maybe that's where

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Speaker 3: Kayler Williams has his best game of the year through

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Speaker 3: the air. He's not been very accurate. Maybe he gets

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed they used the word guyle a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. Aaron Rodgers has guyle. The Steelers defense

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Speaker 2: got much else. If the Steelers lose to drop the

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Speaker 2: six and five and Baltimore beats the Jets, which they will,

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Speaker 2: at Baltimore looming on December seventh, a day that will

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Speaker 2: live in infamy. Are the Steelers in trouble or back

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Speaker 3: Now, I think they're in trouble if you allow the

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Speaker 3: Rags Sunday, if that scenario plays out, if you allow

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Speaker 2: Year three games ahead, and they caught you without any

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Speaker 3: Head, without any game, without them helping themselves at all,

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Speaker 3: So that would just be I think, an absolute disaster.

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Speaker 3: I want that one game cushion before the day that

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Speaker 1: You know, don't don't steal that.

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Speaker 2: You'll never make what's that line from meingirls, You'll never.

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Speaker 1: Make sech a thing I intend to make.

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Speaker 2: A day that lives in infamy, will live in infamy

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Speaker 2: A thing tom that result last night. First off, I

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Speaker 2: Second off, that result, Like I said in my open,

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Speaker 2: that sucks both those teams into the wild card race,

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Speaker 2: and that ain't good for the Steelers. It would have

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Speaker 2: and Houston's right in it too. Yeah, and Jacksonville still

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Speaker 3: So now there's a third time who beat The steel

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Speaker 3: Charges are firmly in it. The Chiefs are still in

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Speaker 3: the mix right now. You can't rule them out. So

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Speaker 3: there's three teams in the way.

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Speaker 2: You will not make you boy, am I gonna be

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Speaker 2: like Notre Damus when the Chiefs don't make it? Because

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Speaker 3: And the Texans winning is huge as far as that goes,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be a wild our team. I still believe

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's the Steelers at Akrocher stadium.

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Speaker 3: He can't play you know, Superman six touchdown football, four

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Speaker 3: straight games to win a super Bowl, right, No chance.

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Speaker 2: No, no way. I mean they're not gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bills will be a wildcard. I just

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Speaker 2: Is, I don't think so either. But it depends who

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was saying, Like they could be

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Speaker 2: He will it beat him twice an acrosser. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: beat him next week too. Yeah right, Okay, So like

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Speaker 3: Stop him, no chance, like he and especially after losing

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Speaker 3: this game, like he is just gonna feel so much

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Speaker 3: pressure to have to rack up as many wins as

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Speaker 3: he can before they go to New England on December fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Chiefs the same thing.

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Speaker 2: If they did somehow make the playoffs, they're to run

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Speaker 2: the table either. Oh, I don't think so, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of people would predict they would. But I hear

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Speaker 2: not the rest of the team, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: of all that playoff, extra game fatigue or not not

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they would be able to go

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Speaker 3: track record of the Chiefs, But I just don't think

439
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Speaker 3: currently they'd go into Denver and win it.

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Speaker 1: If we pay too much attention to track track records.

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah, every game is a separate, distinctive currents and things change.

442
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Speaker 2: Denver's getting home, guys.

443
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Speaker 1: Get older, teams get better, teams get worse teams add.

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Speaker 3: And subtract Denver getting home field advantage. I'd be awful

445
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Speaker 3: tempted to pick them to go to the super Bowl.

446
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Speaker 3: That's one of the tougher home field advantages you can

447
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Speaker 3: have to have to go through there in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: In a way, Tom, that's why I kind of pooh Pooh.

449
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 2: The notion that that Rogers is what twenty five and

450
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Speaker 2: four or twenty five and five against Chicago twenty four

451
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Speaker 2: and five, I think, yeah, because this isn't those Bears,

452
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,120
Speaker 2: and Rodgers isn't in his prime with that Green Bay team.

453
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Speaker 2: Same thing with the Steelers. One and twelve at Chicago.

454
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Speaker 2: Those numbers, I mean, there's something to talk about. I

455
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: certainly have and will do, but they're really meaningless.

456
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Speaker 3: Plus that was in the context of him playing for

457
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Speaker 3: the Packers, So the the rest of the team is

458
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 3: also juiced to beat the Bears too, to beat their

459
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Speaker 3: art rival.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right.

461
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Speaker 3: Rest of the Steelers don't really care about beating the Bears.

462
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they could say, hey, we want to do

463
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Speaker 3: this for Rogers, but how far does that really go.

464
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 3: This isn't the Ravens, this isn't the Browns.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're saying that we haven't ripped TJ.

466
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,119
Speaker 2: Watt lately, but I'd like to now because he's invisible.

467
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 2: No sacks last week. Six on the year, guess where

468
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Speaker 2: he ranks in the league for sacks.

469
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's got to be like probably twenty fourth.

470
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: Time for sixteenth. That contract is already so evidently a mistake.

471
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,679
Speaker 2: And who said that it was a mistake? Who was

472
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Speaker 2: that before it was signed? It was me Mark mad

473
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Speaker 2: NAT's who just like I said, Kansas City, I am

474
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Speaker 2: a regular Notre dameis. And by the way, what's that

475
00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 2: reference from there's a movie where they mispronounced Nostra Damas

476
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: is Notre dameous And I keep mimicking that. I don't.

477
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Speaker 1: I'll never make fetch a thing either.

478
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Speaker 3: I just know the Chappelle Show take on Nostra Damis.

479
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, was that Paul Mooney. It was tremendous.

480
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Speaker 2: It's seriously, I can't I there was so much like like,

481
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Speaker 2: I can't repeat almost any of it now, but it's

482
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Speaker 2: so good Paul Mooney. I'm glad Chappelle later in Mooney's

483
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Speaker 2: career because he since past gave him, gave him a

484
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Speaker 2: platform because Mooney is one of the funniest m efforts

485
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Speaker 2: that's ever walked the face of the earth.

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Speaker 3: No question, that segment was great, and he did the

487
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Speaker 3: ask a black dude too. We can say that, you can't.

488
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Speaker 3: I didn't want to.

489
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Speaker 2: You know, you know what Negro Damas would have would

490
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Speaker 2: have predicted great things for Sudor Sanders, no question about

491
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Speaker 2: that him, Josina and uh Cam Newton.

492
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Speaker 1: So anyway, back.

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Speaker 2: To what we talked about the Steelers lack of physicality

494
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Speaker 2: is what easy to play against. I mean, maybe that's

495
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: not the word I'm looking for, but like, if you're

496
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Speaker 2: a tackle, he's not gonna beat you up. He's gonna

497
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: try to run around you and you're gonna have your

498
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Speaker 2: hands full. He's not gonna he's not gonna hurt you

499
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Speaker 2: physically though.

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Speaker 3: It's not like a Harrison game, you know what I mean,

501
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 3: where he just roughs you up, completely beats you up.

502
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: As you're saying, when I think of Watt's dominance, it's

503
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: always about speed. It's always about beating you with the speed,

504
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: having that kind of like quick sacks and almost like

505
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Speaker 3: a Cobra.

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Speaker 2: Strike with hit boom, it's over. Yeah, exactly. I just

507
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Speaker 2: got a texture my man Smithy, the number one, indeed

508
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Speaker 2: two seventy six, which I do not wait now, but

509
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Speaker 2: I'm getting there thanks to Awaken one eighty. Who should

510
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: pay me more money for droppins like that? Okay, up next,

511
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Speaker 2: some hockey talk, as we got the Penguins at home

512
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Speaker 2: against Minnesota tonight Billy G in the Hospit Billy Garreon,

513
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Speaker 2: the legend of Billy G.

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Speaker 1: One oh five ninety X.

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Speaker 4: Tonight's the Pens face off against the Wild. Game time

516
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Speaker 4: is seven. Our coverage starts at six here every game

517
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Speaker 4: and the best coverage right here on your home of

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Speaker 4: the pensive ninety.

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Speaker 2: And is the season when you're in the mood for

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Speaker 2: a holiday music nine the ice double Am on the X.

521
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Speaker 2: We got the Penguins hosting Minnesota tonight. Let's talk to

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Speaker 2: Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 1: Tom.

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Speaker 2: We got three games at home, three beatable opponents, starting

525
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Speaker 2: with Minnesota this evening. It seems like a big stretch

526
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: to not not get out in front, but at least

527
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Speaker 2: maintain what you're doing. Oh, no question.

528
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: I think five out of six points in this homestand

529
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Speaker 3: is that that's not getting too greedy?

530
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Speaker 1: Is it be good enough for me?

531
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Speaker 3: I think that's what the goal should be. There's stiffest

532
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Speaker 3: test this probably tonight too, because Minnesota is playing a

533
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Speaker 3: lot better. I won three straight. They're like seven two

534
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Speaker 3: and one in their last ten. I think so they're

535
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: they're back in the playoff conference. Yeah right, he's a force.

536
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: You crushed him in Minnesota earlier. This year though, four

537
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Speaker 3: to one and you've just been waiting at home, right,

538
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Speaker 3: you've been off for four or five days since coming

539
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Speaker 3: back from Sweden.

540
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but sometimes that that don't help you, Like you

541
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Speaker 2: think it might the first.

542
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Speaker 3: Game, but then it can go to knock some Rust

543
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Speaker 3: off and then maybe Saturday against the Crack and that's

544
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Speaker 3: where you just like come out, shot out like a cannon.

545
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: You know, you can knock the Rust off very easily.

546
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: Thomas to scratch Brian Rust, but they can. He's top six.

547
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: An anonymous player told Yoe that the Penguins would have

548
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: been competitive last season if they'd gotten this year's goaltending. Now,

549
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: last year's goaltending was awful and Jari he was there

550
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: last year as well as this. But was the goaltending

551
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: last year that bad? And is it that good now?

552
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Speaker 3: I'm not ready to say it's that good now. I'm

553
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Speaker 3: still kind of waiting for the other shoot to drop.

554
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Speaker 2: I'd rank it a B minus now. I would rank

555
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: it no better than a D plus last year and

556
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Speaker 2: maybe a D. A lot of people thought Ned was good.

557
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: Ned sucks major upgrade with and Jari's.

558
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Speaker 1: Playing way better this year than last so far.

559
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Speaker 3: Is it wrong of me though, to just still wish

560
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: we could be rid of Jari and just roll forward

561
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Speaker 3: with Love and Mushoff as the tandem.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you think more Shof's better right now, well

563
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: if they think then yeah, but the plan wants for

564
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Speaker 2: him to stay in the A this year barring injury,

565
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Speaker 2: and I think they should follow that plan as long

566
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Speaker 2: as Jari and Shiloff's keep playing at the level they're at. Yeah,

567
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: you're right, but it's I mean, things.

568
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Speaker 1: Can change because of their place in.

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Speaker 3: The standing true, and it's just so tempting with she

570
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Speaker 3: loves in Murshov clearly being the future there, she loves

571
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Speaker 3: under twenty four, Mershov's twenty one years old. Like that's

572
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Speaker 3: the net right there for the next five years.

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Speaker 1: More Shof's better in shootouts than either.

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Speaker 2: You might think that's a small thing, but it's a

575
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Speaker 2: big deal when you're really in a tight playoff race,

576
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Speaker 2: which they absolutely will be. This will go down to

577
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Speaker 2: the end, and that's the best case scenario.

578
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Speaker 1: For the Penguins.

579
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Speaker 3: They have to get bold and do what you've been saying.

580
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Speaker 1: They're not.

581
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Speaker 3: They won't, but they have to get bold. They have

582
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Speaker 3: to be the team.

583
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to muse sometimes chats with you know,

584
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Speaker 2: individual members the media. After his post game, I'm gonna say, hey,

585
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Speaker 2: would you ever do this? I'd like to hear what

586
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Speaker 2: he thinks.

587
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Speaker 3: Try to present it like you'd look like a genius,

588
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like Aasamov, Like you'd be

589
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Speaker 3: the guy that would.

590
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Speaker 2: Be praised for them.

591
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Speaker 1: I think he already thinks he's a gene.

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Speaker 3: Well, then no one would ever think to do it,

593
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: no one would try to do it. You do it,

594
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Speaker 3: and you're successful at it. All of a sudden you're

595
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Speaker 3: this cutting head coach, and then maybe you're the one

596
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 3: that's the pioneer, and more teams will start to do it.

597
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: It's such an obvious situation to try it, though, because

598
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Speaker 3: she loves is so bad in the shootout, you have

599
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Speaker 3: to pull him. Whether it's Jarry, is the backup O Mirashov,

600
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Speaker 3: either ones a veteran.

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Speaker 2: I know what I would do. I would go to shilloffs. Listen,

602
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Speaker 2: we're practicing shootouts now. Maybe you'll get better the next

603
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Speaker 2: time you're in a shootout of it. If it don't improve,

604
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Speaker 2: then we got to start pulling you.

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Speaker 3: It has to be a bit of a mental thing. Too, right,

606
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Speaker 3: because remember he had that amazing save against Nashville. When

607
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: he started his game in the Global Series as a

608
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Speaker 3: breakaway from Predators had him dead to rights. He had

609
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Speaker 3: an incredible say, you.

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Speaker 2: Have a breakaways, you're different because you ain't got time

611
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Speaker 2: to think and the mental yesh shooter slows down in

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Speaker 2: the shootout. You can't be better a breakaway. I do too,

613
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Speaker 2: but it's a factor. You can't do it on a

614
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: breakaway now right. Another kind of Penguiny news item is

615
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Speaker 2: Malkin did an interview and I'm not sure it broke

616
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Speaker 2: new ground except he named team specifically, said he only

617
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Speaker 2: wants to play in Pittsburgh, doesn't want to go some

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Speaker 2: place like Colorado or Miami. We always thought Miami because

619
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Speaker 2: he's got a home there and that's where his wife

620
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Speaker 2: has always resided. And he said he wants to play

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Speaker 2: one or two more years. Now. Him making that public

622
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: is shrewd on his part, because he's putting the ball

623
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Speaker 2: in the Penguins court already and making them the bad

624
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Speaker 2: guys for all the genomaniacs out there in advance.

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00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: Oh and he's capitalizing on a lot of good genopr

626
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: and rightfully so, because Gino has played really well this year,

627
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: so it should be getting good pr But it is

628
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: a great time for him to advance this story. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of buzz about him own Gino getting a

630
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: second win. I just think it would be a mistake,

631
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Speaker 3: and I know you do too, to sign h The thing.

632
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Speaker 2: Is, you can't block Kindle from being the number two center.

633
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: You can't just turn him into a third line center

634
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Speaker 2: unless Kindle isn't what they think he is. But I

635
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: know what they think he is currently and it's not

636
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Speaker 2: a bottom six.

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Speaker 3: And no signs are pointing to that. And again it's

638
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Speaker 3: still a long season ahead of us.

639
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Speaker 1: But I don't get that.

640
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: People don't get that you can't hinder Kendall's progress to

641
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Speaker 2: serve nostalgia.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be the best thing in the world

643
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Speaker 1: to keep Geno.

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00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've seen people say this to you on

645
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: Twitter too, and this has come up that another thing

646
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: they don't get. Well, well, if Kendall can't beat malcol

647
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: out for second line center, well then he doesn't deserve

648
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: it. It got nothing to do with deserve.

649
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: Kendall's a better two hundred foot player than Malkin right now,

650
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: right this second I mean that's not to say he

651
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: could beat him out for number two center right now,

652
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: because Malkin has twenty three points in nineteen games. And

653
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: speaking to which, if Malclin keeps that kind of production up,

654
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: it is a tough decision. But you're not paying him

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Speaker 2: for what he's doing, you know, in the first nineteen

656
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: games this year, and obviously they're not going to talk

657
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: to him about it even till after the year's over.

658
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: But even let's say he averages a point of game

659
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Speaker 2: this year, can he do it again next year at

660
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: age forty? That's a big assumption in this situation.

661
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Kyle Dubis has got to make a tough decision,

662
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: you know what I mean when it comes to these

663
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: three guys, the Big three, you can't just always keep

664
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: kicking the can down.

665
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: The road for I think two more years.

666
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: This is the one that comes up, Gino, So this

667
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 3: is your first tough decision that you have to make.

668
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Speaker 1: What I say to Sid.

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Speaker 2: If Sid tries to, you know, influenced Gino here, I'd say, Okay,

670
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: he's on your wing all eighty two games. You still

671
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: want them? Nope? He would say, no, he does not

672
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: want them. I don't know what it's said, like to

673
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: be there when the conversation was happening.

674
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be a flat out now, but it'd probably

675
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: be like we'll have to see you know what I mean,

676
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: like well.

677
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: You know is saying in in you know, putting stuff

678
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: out there like he is because he knows they'll have

679
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: sid support. Now.

680
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: Gino fading this year like this momentum could carry into

681
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: the offseason, which makes the decision even harder because he's

682
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: gonna get what almost a month off in February because

683
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: of the Olympic break. It is set up for him

684
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: to have a burst down the stretch, have a nice

685
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: march in April to finish the season, and then hopefully

686
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: the way the Penguins are right now, it.

687
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: Makes the decision all the tougher. And if they win

688
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: a series, my god.

689
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: He'd probably be back right for better or for worse,

690
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: he'd probably bring him back.

691
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: At that point. On my prediction, he's back no matter

692
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: no matter what, miss the playoffs, even he could lose

693
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: a leg. Tom One one other thing that's of discussion

694
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: with the Penguins. It looks like is gonna go to

695
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: Wilkes for conditioning. That's what I hear because he couldn't

696
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: go there otherwise, but he's been scratched I think six games. Now,

697
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: once you scratch for five, you can go to the

698
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: AH for conditioning assignment, not get returned to juniors, as

699
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: that agreement with Major Junior mandates. And then I hear

700
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna go play for Canada in the World Juniors.

701
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: But World Juniors is over a month away. How long

702
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: can Brunick not play?

703
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: How long are you allowed to be on the conditioning

704
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 3: assignment in Wilks It's like two weeks or something like that.

705
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: It's two weeks. I'm not one thousand percent sure.

706
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: So that's two weeks.

707
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: It eats into the month a little bit there that

708
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: you have to wait until the World Juniors. They clearly

709
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: just don't think that Juniors will do anything for his

710
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: development right to send him back to that league like

711
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: they must think that that will do That will do

712
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: no good.

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Speaker 2: He'll just stay in neutral again, Tom, I don't think

714
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: they know what to do right now. I think they

715
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: trust his talent impeccably so, but they just don't like

716
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: what they see on the ice. And that's it's tough

717
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: to kind of bridge that when you make the decision.

718
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: And then you look at Kendall too, who is just

719
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: you know, soaring past every expectation that you could ever have.

720
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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that they look at Kendle and

721
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: then they say, Ah, Brunick, why can't you be like Kendall?

722
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: But I get where they're coming from, where it's a

723
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: little bit of a disappointment here where he's not as

724
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: far along as they had hoped. There was a little

725
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: bit of talk last year right coming out of training camp,

726
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: like do you try to bring brunic up for ten

727
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: games last year before you send him back down to juniors.

728
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: So it is upsetting to see him not take to

729
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: the NHL as smoothly as we'd hope. But I think

730
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Speaker 3: I think, I think two weeks in the is gonna

731
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Speaker 3: be good.

732
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Speaker 2: It's tough for a defenseman because he the toughest position

733
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Speaker 2: of adjustment from from junior's AHL whatever to the NHL, and.

734
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Speaker 3: He played in the A last year during the playoff

735
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: run for Wilkes. So I think it'll do him some

736
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Speaker 3: good a couple of weeks down there, and then when

737
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Speaker 3: you bring him back up, I'd throw him in there

738
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: for a game, right Mark, you got to try him

739
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: before you decide to make your final decision.

740
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: Well, or maybe he goes to the AHL and he

741
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: plays a few games before World Juniors. And again, this

742
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: is just what I've heard. I don't know for sure

743
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: they're doing that, but but it's what I've been told

744
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: by somebody who probably knows, and it seems logical to me.

745
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: It says right here, Tom, the standard NHL conditioning assignment

746
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: could last up to fourteen consecutive days. Up next, we

747
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: got the Trifecta. Don't forget the pregame show, brought to

748
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: us by our good friends at Shandorovich, Shandorovich and Fishman.

749
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: They got your back, not your wallet. One nine from

750
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Speaker 2: the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center. This

751
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: report is sponsored by McVeigh Plumbing, Heating and Cooling. Yes,

752
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: now it's time for the Trifecta, brought to us by

753
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Speaker 2: Danny's Pizza and Hogis Pittsburgh's original oven baked togy since

754
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty. That Standy's on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. Tom,

755
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: what have we got for today's trifectum?

756
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: For today's Triffecta, I've got three Bears stats that I

757
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: think are pretty relevant when it comes to the game

758
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: on Sunday.

759
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: Three Bears like the like the children.

760
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: So this is the football team, Okay, this is about

761
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: the team in Chicago. Number three, the Bears lead the

762
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: NFL and interceptions. We all know that with fifteen, but

763
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: when you look at it from an individual state point,

764
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: it's even more impressive. Kevin Byern has the most in

765
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: the league at five. Then Tremaine Edmonds and Nashan Wright

766
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: have four each, so they literally have the top three

767
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: interception getters in the NFL this season. So you got

768
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Speaker 3: to protect the football. Number two. Rogers is good at

769
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: and I think Rudolph is actually pretty decent at as well,

770
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Speaker 3: not horrible, or at least put it this way, if

771
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: Rudolph does throw a pick, it won't snowball, you know

772
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like he won't be like, oh, I'm

773
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Speaker 3: gonna just keep throwing pick after pick after pick. Number

774
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Speaker 3: two the Bears run the ball at Soldier Field in

775
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: the games in Chicago forty nine percent of the time,

776
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Speaker 3: and they are the second best rushing offense in football.

777
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: We've talked about that already, So you're going to have

778
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: to stop the run. They commit to it more than

779
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: any team when they're at home. But the number one

780
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: stat that.

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: By the way, that stat their commitment to the running

782
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: game and their success at it tells me that the

783
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: Steelers get down by a couple scores, it's game, it's over.

784
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: They'll just punch the lights out, yep. Number one, Caleb

785
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: Williams scrambles on twenty two point three percent of his dropbacks.

786
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: That's only behind Jade and Daniels, and Daniels has been

787
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: hurt for a couple of weeks. So this is the

788
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: quarterback that scrambles the most in the NFL. Not talking

789
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: design runs here, I'm talking about his read's not there,

790
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: he takes off and those it's.

791
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Speaker 1: A metric indicate whether or not he scrambles the best.

792
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: Well, he has had four straight games of at least

793
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: twenty five rushing yards off of scrambles. Twenty five plus

794
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: rushing yards off scrambles. Yes, not cold plays, not called

795
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: plays like they will call RPOs too. So don't get

796
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: me wrong, there will be some design stuff with Williams,

797
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: but he's so good at escaping pressure and getting you know,

798
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: five six seven yards out of a bus to play,

799
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: the Steelers have got to be able to grab him

800
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: That's the trifecta brought to us by Danny's Peach and

802
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: Hogies on Route eighty eight. Tom I did a call

803
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: him for the trip, calling out Jeff Passon for all

804
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 2: the Horsebineur. He talked about the pirates like being in

805
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: for Schwarber, and of course we discussed that all week

806
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: on this program. But I learned now the Trek Scooble,

807
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: the cy On Award winner in the America League for Detroit,

808
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: that he may well be traded this offseas. And even

809
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: though he's won two straight cy Young Awards, and even

810
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: though Detroit had a great season and got in the playoffs,

811
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: he's entering his third year of arbitration, and they figured

812
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: that na's the time to trade him while he has

813
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: maximum value. And I was surprised to learn, especially with

814
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: Skeens having his first year of arbitration next year in

815
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. I should say after this coming season.

816
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: The Scooba only got paid ten point one five million

817
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: dollars this year and he agreed to that prior to arbitration.

818
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: That strikes me as a really low figure. And wonder

819
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: if maybe I'm talking out my backside when I say

820
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Speaker 2: Skiens is going to get you know, thirty or forty

821
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Speaker 2: million in arbitration.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised to hear that too, when you told

823
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: me that at the break. And then I looked up

824
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: what the estimate is for this year's arbitration on Scoobal

825
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 3: and it's only like seventeen point eight eighteen million dollars?

826
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: Would that be?

827
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me, And I wonder tell you, let's.

828
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: Say Skeens only gets twenty million arbitration and they don't

829
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: pay that. Oh my god, my god, that that I mean,

830
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: like maybe you can't keep him for at least one

831
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Speaker 2: year of arbitration.

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Speaker 3: My only theory is so the contracts that we were

833
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: looking at in the past was like the Soda remember,

834
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: like Wan Soda got like thirty million or something like that.

835
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: Something crazy and arbitration. I wonder if the arbitration board

836
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: in a weird way when you look at it, just

837
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 3: a singular year thing, which is what they're doing.

838
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: Value.

839
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 3: You're on the field every game as a hitter more

840
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: than a pitcher who's only pitching every fifth game, and

841
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: that's why the value is so low. I don't know,

842
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: I really don't get it. I'm trying to find a reason.

843
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I yeah, I don't agree with that reason.

844
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Speaker 2: I just think pitching is the biggest part of the

845
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: It is then again, Redo somewhat by pictures being pulled

846
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: early in their star trade too, like Scooble was in

847
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: the final game of the Alds. That still makes no

848
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: sense to me. It makes no sense, especially if you

849
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: were thinking then that you might rad him. Yeah, I

850
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: don't let him. Bitch toly died that arm fell off.

851
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Then I told them to throw right handed.

852
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: If the Tigers do trade Scooble, if you're a Tiger fan,

853
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 3: that's gonna suck, Don't get me wrong. But at least

854
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: they've given you something in your lifetime, right, I mean,

855
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: at least they've done stuff with it.

856
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 2: They spent and built, yes and God to a peak.

857
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: And now if they trade Scooble and wind up kind

858
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: of burning it down. I understand that too.

859
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: And they've had peaks like if Tom was a Detroit

860
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: Tiger fan growing up, you'd have Miguel Cabrera forever justin

861
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: Verland or Don. Yeah, I'm saying like if you were me,

862
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: and yes I am, as a Detroit Tiger fan, though,

863
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: like there is moments here where it's actually exciting baseball.

864
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, it sucks. We're trading skirts.

865
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: Never build to a.

866
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: Peak, never, so at least you'd say, hey, we're trading Schooble.

867
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 3: At least my team has the track record of building

868
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: to a peak.

869
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: And you know, it looked like that might be the

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Speaker 2: philosophy when they you know, made the playoffs in thirteen,

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Speaker 2: fourteen and fifteen and then did burn it down, but

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Speaker 2: they never built it back up. And like I've said

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Speaker 2: many times, and it's obviously correct, that's it. Nothing spent

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Speaker 2: more in that period, didn't win enough, His profits weren't

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Speaker 2: what they were had he not spent at all, and

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Speaker 2: he learned from that.

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Speaker 3: However, perversely, that's it.

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Speaker 2: It spooked him.

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Speaker 3: It's no coincidence that you haven't seen a multi year

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Speaker 3: contract given to a free agent since ivon Nova was

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Speaker 3: at twenty eighteen. He got spooks from what happened to

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Speaker 3: him in that stretch where he actually decided to try

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Speaker 3: to win and it wasn't working as far as a

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Speaker 3: profit was concerned.

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Speaker 2: But Tom, I've seen the future. It's trading Mitch Keller

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Speaker 2: for Tarrek Scouble. One oh, five, nine,