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Speaker 1: All right, here we go back on the Big Ones,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, nine to eight on this Thursday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night. It's Wednesday night. I know that because it's

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. I'm Dan Carroll,

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Speaker 1: glad to be here, Glad you are here as well.

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Speaker 1: Joe Waddell is running the big board in the seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW command center. Joe, did I hear that NKU

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Speaker 1: held on and pulled that game out? I think I

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Speaker 1: heard that on the news the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: So thank god for that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was twenty minutes ago. I'm driving into

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Speaker 1: The NKU has got a fourteen point lead with two

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Speaker 1: But I think I heard Sean Gallagher say they they

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Speaker 1: held on and pulled it out. So NKU moves on

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Speaker 1: the Horizon League tournament. Good for them, very very good.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with It's one of those nights where

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Speaker 1: I really, I really don't know where I want to

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Speaker 1: start the show. I got tons of stuff to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and so maybe I'll start with telling you who is

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Speaker 1: going to be here. By the way, phone lines are

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Speaker 1: open five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about what's going on in uh

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Speaker 1: In Iran?

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Speaker 2: What's an Operation Day Gone?

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Speaker 1: I just looked at a second ago and it was

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Speaker 1: just forgot. It's Operation Something Fury. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: I've got Andrew Harding is a foreign policy expert from

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Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation, and so we'll be talking about all

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Speaker 1: things I ran what's happening there with him? And then

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Speaker 1: my good friend Angelindival or Evangeline Deval, i should say,

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Speaker 1: Varner Foundation for Families and Children, and she really is

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Speaker 1: a tireless advocate for children who are in the foster

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Speaker 1: It really is the focal point of her life. And

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow was up on Capitol Hill today. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: he was on Capitol Hill yesterday and he's testifying. This

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Speaker 1: is not the first time Tim Tebow has testified before Congress.

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow has made made it a central point of

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Speaker 1: we know about the three hundred thousand plus that were

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Speaker 1: most unimaginable things you can you can imagine happening to children.

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Speaker 1: And Tim Tebow has been an advocate to rescue these

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to talk to Angeline or I keep on,

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Speaker 1: And it seems that that's the only thing we make

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Speaker 1: Two guys walk into the bar or Riverfront Live. It's

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Speaker 1: Way we deal with individuals like this in our criminal

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Speaker 1: collided with federal reality. After the mass shooting that left

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Speaker 1: Second suspect, Derek Long, also has a lengthy history inside

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Speaker 4: Has to do with local politics, and they don't want

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, in this particular case, the mayor

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Speaker 2: And what did we get from the mayor? Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: You know, everything's cool, man, everything's cool on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I've said it many times there is no one better

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Speaker 7: Explain to you guys, this is simple English, okay. Iran

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Speaker 1: The world will be a safer place when these radical

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Speaker 1: Joining me now from the Heritage Foundation is a senior

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right.

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Speaker 1: It's been a little while since I've had you on

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Speaker 1: the show. When it comes to Marco Rubio laying out

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Speaker 8: I think Secretary of Arubia is doing an excellent job

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Speaker 8: all of these things that have not addressed. Now Iran

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Speaker 8: In this case, we're striking now, and this is in

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at the picture that goes along

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you are exactly correct there as well.

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Speaker 8: I think Iran has very much chanted death to America

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Speaker 1: I watched the Pentagon the briefings from the Pentagon the

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Speaker 1: pretty much said we're sitting this one out. So if

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Speaker 1: Iran was looking to China for some support there, it

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Speaker 1: seems that's not going to happen. And that's I think

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Speaker 1: that's got to go a long way into seeing that

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Speaker 1: this conflict gets wrapped up. And I have no idea

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Speaker 1: how long it's going to last, but at least I

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Speaker 1: guess we don't have that chess piece to what to

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Speaker 1: deal with alloboard.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, And I think you raised a really important point,

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Speaker 8: and I think it's a good distinguishing factor between the

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Speaker 8: United States and China when it comes to.

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Speaker 6: How reliable of an ally we are.

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Speaker 8: The United States and Israel, of course, this is a

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Speaker 8: joint operation and campaign that they continue to work on

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Speaker 8: through Operation Epic Theory. But notably we have Gulf States,

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Speaker 8: which initially we're preferring some type of middle ground, but

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Speaker 8: following Iran to talatory strikes, are now working more very

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Speaker 8: close to the United States, even to the point of

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Speaker 8: supporting offensive strikes. NATO of course is becoming more involved

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Speaker 8: while we see with Iran, and as to your point,

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Speaker 8: China's just been willing to issue statements denouncing the mayor

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Speaker 8: and this really strikes.

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Speaker 6: But that's been it publicly.

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Speaker 8: It's been very different. So it shows just how meaningless

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Speaker 8: of a partnership with China is and your time of need,

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Speaker 8: Iran is certainly not feeling the support it would hopeful

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Speaker 8: from China. But it also shows that while Operation Ethic

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Speaker 8: Theory is not about China, it certainly effects China, certainly

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Speaker 8: on the energy front, and we can prevent Iran from

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Speaker 8: supplying roughly a quarter of China's oil that severely helps

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Speaker 8: you with military defending the Pacific and insuring the Chinese

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Speaker 8: military don't does not decide to take any moves against

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Speaker 8: us in the Indo Pacific. But it also puts pressure

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Speaker 8: on Jiji and Ping to be isolated in the world

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Speaker 8: to where an access of evil partnerships of the Ran,

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Speaker 8: Russia and North Korea ultimately don't provide a lot of

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Speaker 8: value to the Chinese. So it certainly has effects with

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Speaker 8: what we're doing in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about Trump's first tournament office and the

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Speaker 1: Abraham Accords, which I remember thinking at that time that

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Speaker 1: that hadn't been any other president, they would have immediately

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Speaker 1: been talking about a novel piece prize.

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Speaker 2: And when I.

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Speaker 1: Think of the work that was done with the Abraham

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Speaker 1: Accords and then the cooperation and at least the words

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Speaker 1: of support that we've gotten from all the other Gulf states,

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Speaker 1: how much of a factor do you think the Abraham

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Speaker 1: Accords are in Trump and the United States being able

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Speaker 1: to operate in that theater the way we have been.

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Speaker 8: I think it's been very important. It certainly is that

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Speaker 8: some of the foundations we see today of normalization of

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Speaker 8: diplomatic ties and premer partnerships with Israel and ghost states.

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Speaker 8: Even for countries that have yet to formally recognize Israel,

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Speaker 8: the Abraham Accords are provided the foundations necessary for those

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Speaker 8: types of dialogues to occur. If anything, it ensures that

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Speaker 8: countries in the Middle East and Israel can fairly exchange

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Speaker 8: perspectives and share interests and better understand one another. So

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Speaker 8: it's very important here in which comparatively with the Ron

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Speaker 8: that is clearly willing to show how much of a

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Speaker 8: threat it is to the entire region. You see Israel

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Speaker 8: acting to eliminate the threat and protect itself and work

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Speaker 8: with golf partners as well as the United States to

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Speaker 8: keep the region that's safe from Iranian missiles as possible.

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Speaker 8: It's really showing how golf countries can ultimately trust Israel

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Speaker 8: when it comes to regional prosperity and securities. While with

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Speaker 8: Iran we see Iran it's targeting everyone, even golf countries

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Speaker 8: that were somewhat sympathetic to RAN's position Cutter in particular,

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Speaker 8: So this Iran strategy has not been successful. It's kicking

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Speaker 8: themselves back in the head here, while Israel is showing

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Speaker 8: how for the Abraham of Courts and the foundations but

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Speaker 8: also this operation, that normalization of diplomatic size in Israel

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Speaker 8: and Gulf countries could very much be an outcome of

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Speaker 8: this operation to see stronger new levels of relationships here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they launched some missiles at airports.

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Speaker 2: What else did they?

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Speaker 1: I think they shot at some apartment buildings, really non

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Speaker 1: military targets. So does whatever armed forces that Iran has.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like they really have the wherewithal to

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Speaker 1: do anything substantial in a meaningful way. So when it

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Speaker 1: comes to that sort of conflict, I don't think it

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Speaker 1: seems that. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it seems

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Speaker 1: to me they really don't have very much to work with,

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Speaker 1: especially after what happened over the weekend.

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Speaker 8: I think you're correct. It certainly helps when a success

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Speaker 8: with decapitation strike takes out not only your supreme leader

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Speaker 8: but also almost fifty of your most senior military officials.

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Speaker 8: So an excellent opening strike there and a good decision

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Speaker 8: which then creates a panic. Of course, Iran can plan

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Speaker 8: out every scenario at once of losing leadership, but at

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Speaker 8: the end of the day, when the missiles start flying,

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Speaker 8: plans change. It's easy to write them on paper, but

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Speaker 8: then to execute them in real life. That's very different.

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Speaker 8: But secondly, I think this also shows how the United

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Speaker 8: States is really having success. Israel and the US have

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Speaker 8: been targeting Iran's missile launchers. We've seen a very steady

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Speaker 8: decline in Iran's ability to fire off missiles and drones

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Speaker 8: into against the US positions, Israel and the Gulf. They

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Speaker 8: continue to a degree, but ultimately, no matter how many

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Speaker 8: missiles Iran they have, is they don't have their launchers,

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Speaker 8: which at this point rough estimates in nicate over fifty

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Speaker 8: percent of them have been eliminated since Saturday. Then Iran

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Speaker 8: cannot continue up this fight. Comparatively, Secretary Headset said this

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Speaker 8: morning that the United States is only going to ramp

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Speaker 8: up its overall campaign and the attacks the US will

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Speaker 8: do on particular critical sites in Iran. So I think

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Speaker 8: we're starting to see Operation Epic Theory enter a new

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Speaker 8: phase with complete domination and the United States and Israel

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Speaker 8: keys in their foot on the gas while Iran is

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Speaker 8: really struggling to keep things together and their strategy is

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Speaker 8: hitting everyone clearly to try to cause more pressure, to

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Speaker 8: put economic or political pressure on the US and Israel

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Speaker 8: to stop the conflict.

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Speaker 2: That's failed.

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Speaker 8: If anything, it's turned against Iran and they're completely isolated

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Speaker 8: in this situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew Harding of the Heritage Foundation, we got to run.

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Speaker 1: But it seems that Democrats obviously do not want to

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Speaker 1: be on team Trump. It seems that they really don't

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Speaker 1: want to be on team USA. They took a vote

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Speaker 1: in the Senate tonight to try and shut down President Trump.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we have to sit here and listen

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Speaker 1: to people like Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin and all

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Speaker 1: the other regular suspects complain about Trump deciding to exercise

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Speaker 1: his powers as commander in chief. They want to talk

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Speaker 1: about how it's illegal and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: And they should have they should have been told ahead

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Speaker 1: of time, and they should have had some say so.

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Speaker 1: When when I listened to them carp and complain and

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Speaker 1: wring their hands about this, I think to myself, they

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Speaker 1: really don't have much of a leg to stand on.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 8: I think you're correct. I think the President's may bear

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Speaker 8: it through what the objectives are. I think we're seeing

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Speaker 8: success and that's really important here.

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Speaker 2: This is a gamble and the.

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Speaker 8: President has decided to take this risk to protect the

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Speaker 8: American people and it's paying off. So I really hope

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Speaker 8: as we continue to see great results coming in, Democrats

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Speaker 8: are willing to get more online, understand the president's intent,

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Speaker 8: and see how this operation is making America much safer.

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Speaker 8: So I expect to as results he's coming in in

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Speaker 8: a positive manner. I can only hope. Maybe they're just

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Speaker 8: going to be anti Trump no matter what, but I

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Speaker 8: really hope to see some type of progress if this

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Speaker 8: operation makes America safer.

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Speaker 1: I think that's one thing we can put hang our

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Speaker 1: hat on, is that the Democrats are going to be

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Speaker 1: anti Trump no matter what. That's yeah, you're really going out.

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Speaker 1: You're going out on a limb there, Andrew Harding, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Harding of the Heritage Foundation, We got to run, but

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time tonight, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for breaking all this down. There's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you

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Speaker 1: before too long, but once again, thanks for being here

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Speaker 1: tonight on seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: WW absolutely, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Andrew Harding from the Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 1: Always appreciate him being here. Nine to fifty six. We

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Speaker 1: got to get to a break and after the news.

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Speaker 1: Here at the top of the hour, we're talking with

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Speaker 1: my friend Evangeline de vol and we'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: some of the testimony the Tim Tebow laid out for

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Speaker 1: lawmakers on Capitol Hill on seven hundred WLW seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW ten oh nine, Dan Carold till midnight tonight on

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday night edition of The Midweek Crisis. I was

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the show today and saw some video

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Speaker 1: of team Tim Tebow, former NFL quarterback. He was up

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill testifying before a Senate committee and trying

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Speaker 1: to get some legislation passed that would help identify kids

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Speaker 1: who have been trafficked into just some of the most

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Speaker 1: unimaginable circumstances that you can that you can even think about.

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Speaker 1: And this is a little bit of the testimony that

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Speaker 1: he was giving up on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: And with that, Joe, let's here cut number five.

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Speaker 9: The numbers, not fifty seven thousand, like we said to

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Speaker 9: you years ago, is over eighty nine thousand. We are

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Speaker 9: losing the battle, and we are losing the war, and

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Speaker 9: boys and girls are suffering for it. And to give

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Speaker 9: you an idea of the scope of what's happening, in America.

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Speaker 9: There's a red dot map right over there over my

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Speaker 9: right shoulder, and that's just a six month screenshot of

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Speaker 9: the US and every red dot that is on there

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Speaker 9: is someone that is downloading, sharing, or distributing child rape images,

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Speaker 9: almost all under the age of twelve. And there's over

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Speaker 9: three hundred and thirty of them just in that six

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Speaker 9: month screen shot. And we know that fifty five to

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Speaker 9: eighty five percent of them are also hands on offenders.

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Speaker 9: And we know your average offender has thirteen victims in

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Speaker 9: their lifetime. The scale of harm right here in America

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Speaker 9: to a certain extent, hard to comprehend, but that's why

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Speaker 9: we're here. And when you knock down one of those doors,

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Speaker 9: you also have no idea how many boys and girls

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Speaker 9: you're going to find. From Operation Renewed Hope, one one

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Speaker 9: of the doors that was knocked down. When they went

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Speaker 9: in and seized his computer, they found that he also

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Speaker 9: had raped thirty other boys and girls in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of work.

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Speaker 9: To do, and Ranking Member Durman, you're right, we have

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Speaker 9: to be able to act. A little over a year ago,

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Speaker 9: I was at one of our protection centers and a

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Speaker 9: protection center has extra security because there's still a bounty

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Speaker 9: and a price on these girls in young women's lives.

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Speaker 9: And I was walking through the counseling rooms and I

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Speaker 9: walk up to one of the counseling rooms and it's

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Speaker 9: this beautiful couch and it's got teddy bears and toys

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Speaker 9: and children's books in it. And right behind the couch

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Speaker 9: there's a window, and right behind the window is the wall,

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Speaker 9: and it's the edge of the protection Center. And look

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Speaker 9: up to the top of the wall and it's the

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Speaker 9: razor wire all the way around the top. And I'm

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Speaker 9: just looking at this picture, and it's a surreal picture

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Speaker 9: because inside those girls are gonna be cherished and loved

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Speaker 9: and protected and cared for. But on the outside they

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Speaker 9: went through an earthly form of hell. And I'm standing

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Speaker 9: there looking at this picture, and one of our team

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Speaker 9: members comes and whispers in my ear as I'm looking

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Speaker 9: at this picture, and he said, man, isn't it such

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Speaker 9: a thin line between tortured and treasured?

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Speaker 2: And he was right.

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00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 9: It is a thin line between tortured and treasured. And

659
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 9: you are that thin line, and all of you are

660
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 9: that thin line. But we have to have more people

661
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 9: on that line, and we have to do a whole

662
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 9: lot more, and we have to do it faster, because

663
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 9: every day we wait, they're suffering, they're crying, and I

664
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 9: believe right now many of them are praying that we

665
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 9: would respond. But how are we really going to respond?

666
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 9: Because I ultimately also believe that this is what we're

667
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 9: called to do and what is calling me, And in

668
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 9: my opinion, the best definition is an urgent, divine invitation to.

669
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: Expens So that's Tim Teba. And as I listened to

670
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: that cut two or three times during the course of

671
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: the day today, I just kept thinking to myself, there

672
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: is not a sound that is being made in that room.

673
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: You can hear the past in his voice. And I've

674
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: thought to myself, well, I know a person here in

675
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati who is equally as passionate as Tim Tebow is,

676
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: and that is my friend, Evangeline Deval, executive director and

677
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: founder of the Dan Varner Foundation for Children and Families

678
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: and a tireless advocate for the well being of young

679
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: children like this that Tim Tebow is talking about an

680
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: Evangeline Deval.

681
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: It's great to have you back on seven hundred.

682
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: Wiw Hey Dan, how are you.

683
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm great.

684
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Did were you following some of the testimony that this

685
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: is not the first time he's testified before Congress, but

686
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: were you following that testimony and and uh and some

687
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: of the advocacy that Tim Tebow.

688
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Is involved in.

689
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the man's amazing and I'm so grateful

690
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 5: to him to shine a light on this. It takes

691
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 5: people like himself and also like President the President the

692
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: first lady was there for foster care. When you get

693
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: someone with those kind of credentials that to shine a

694
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 5: light on things that people would prefer not to think

695
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 5: about and see what's really going on, it does make

696
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: a huge difference. And he certainly is a man of faith,

697
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 5: and he certainly has a heart for these kids. You

698
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 5: can tell in his voice that he has a heart

699
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: for the kids, and that's what that's what they need

700
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 5: for sure.

701
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a chance to meet him?

702
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 8: I had not.

703
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 5: I would be honored if that happened, but no, I

704
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: never I never had or never have had an opportunity.

705
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 5: So what's really striking for me so much stands is

706
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: you mentioned the Warner Foundation for Children's Families here in

707
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 5: Cincinnati is all about standing in the resource gap for

708
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: kids and in foster parent kinship. I don't know if

709
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: you remember part of that testimony, but they kept talking

710
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 5: about sale foster care, how that's where most of these

711
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 5: kids are coming from, and and that's what so you know,

712
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 5: that's where my focus is is more what's going on locally,

713
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: because I think Tim Teboat has a big voice, and

714
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 5: I think you we have to do something of the

715
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 5: government and you know, legislation to help these kids. But

716
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 5: they also think it takes It takes people on the

717
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 5: ground in the neighborhoods and the communities and the states

718
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: and in the counties, because it's just like we're going

719
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: to attack all this It's like eating an elephant. You

720
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 5: have to have one bite at a time, and he

721
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 5: can't be everywhere. Everybody can't be everywhere. This is a

722
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: national crisis, and honestly, there's we have a huge cost

723
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: in this country of looking away because it makes us

724
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 5: still uncomfortable and we don't want to see what's right

725
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 5: in front of our notes. And as you know, we've

726
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 5: talked about Ohio being very central to trafficking because of

727
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 5: seventy one and seventy five, and how a lot of

728
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 5: these kids are brought up through that system to get

729
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 5: where they where they're going to be sold for used videotapes.

730
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: And.

731
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: They don't have any They need a voice. But they

732
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 5: need a voice in Cincinnati, they need a voice in Norwood,

733
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: they need a voice every place because this happens right

734
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 5: under our noses every single day.

735
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was thinking about that because you and

736
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: I have talked about that before, and I'm thinking, I'm thinking, well,

737
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: if someone is listening to us tonight and they're thinking, okay, well,

738
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: there's missing children, there's exploited children. We know what happens.

739
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: But in my everyday life, maybe I don't encounter that,

740
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't see it, and maybe I should start

741
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: being more aware of that. If if there's someone who's

742
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: listening to us tonight that is thinking along those lines,

743
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: and what what are one or two things you can

744
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: tell them to maybe look at and maybe be more

745
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: aware of. And if you do see something that you

746
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: think is all for you, you think you know of a

747
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: situation where a kid is being exploited in ways like this,

748
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: who do you contact?

749
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: What do you do?

750
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: What?

751
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: What advice would you give someone like that?

752
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot you can go. There's a lot

753
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 5: of resources out there that can train you, can train

754
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 5: you if you want to get your hands in the

755
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 5: mix and get them dirty, because you will get dirty

756
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 5: doing this. That's all there is to it. The Ohio,

757
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 5: the Ohio Attorney General has a whole website about human

758
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 5: trafficking Victims directory and services. So does the SDI, So

759
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: does the US Department of Labor. You can go on

760
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: all of those and they can tell you the resources

761
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 5: to get in touch. But the bottom line is that

762
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 5: they need to educate themselves. There's a lot of testimony

763
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 5: today that oh children that are out there prostituting themselves,

764
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 5: that get arrested for prostitution, and instead of the help

765
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: that they need, there's there. We're looking at this in

766
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: so many different ways that are wrong, And the only

767
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: way we're going to educate ourselves is to educate ourselves.

768
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: We need to get we need to read about it,

769
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 5: we need to go to se lectures about it. But

770
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 5: but the bottom line, I think if you if you

771
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 5: sus if you suspect, chances are very very high that

772
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 5: something's off. When you know something is just not right,

773
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 5: chances are it is it isn't and you need to

774
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 5: say something. I would much rather an a hundred different

775
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: tides have to turn around and apologize and say I'm sorry,

776
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 5: I misunderstood the situation. The do nothing and that's what

777
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 5: we that's what we need to do. We need to

778
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: educate these kids. But the other thing is, and we've

779
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 5: talked about this before, once we get these kids back,

780
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: once we rescue them, there's that big question mark paying

781
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 5: in the air, what do we do with them? I mean,

782
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: they've been they've been trauma, they've been they've been mutilated,

783
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 5: they're incontinent because of everything they've gone through, So what

784
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: do we do with them? We can't put them in

785
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: normal foster care because they won't assimilate properly. They don't trust,

786
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 5: they don't know what's going on. So that needs to

787
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 5: be addressed too. And I have not heard anybody talk

788
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 5: about Okay, well everybody's talking about rescuing them, but nobody's

789
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 5: talking about fail What do you do with them? Now?

790
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 5: What do you do with them?

791
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

792
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Are there any resources available along those lines?

793
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: There are a few, mostly run by churches and churches

794
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 5: that that will haveuse these kids and give them education.

795
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 5: And I remember most of them have never gone to

796
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 5: Once you're traffic, you're not in school, and they have

797
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 5: medical problems. I've worked with prosecutors that these children that

798
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 5: are eight and nine never seen a dentist. There's so

799
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 5: much that's going on with these kids that we need

800
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 5: to put Churches need to be educated about this. I

801
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 5: know you're a man of faith. I'm a woman of faith.

802
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 5: But a lot of times churches love to support things

803
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 5: just with money, and I think that's wonderful, don't get

804
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: me wrong. But they also can do things like, you know,

805
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 5: support an orphanage for these kids, for therapeutic programs for

806
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 5: these kids. This is the kind of stuff that we need.

807
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 5: And I would love to be able to go and

808
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 5: talk to these churches about exactly what's going on in

809
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: their own backyard because a lot of these kids are

810
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: raped and filmed from a house where I live in Loveland.

811
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: I mean, it happens here, it happens everywhere. Remember that

812
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 5: Matthew showing everybody with all the dots on it being downloaded. Absolutely, yeah,

813
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: it's in every place you live. It's going to be

814
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 5: in the guy next door, this guy across the street.

815
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 5: It's everywhere. So the solution has to be everywhere at

816
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 5: the same time, and these kids don't trust anybody the

817
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 5: same thing, and they don't and they don't know who

818
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 5: to trust. They brought up today, and I'm not I

819
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 5: don't want to be critical and I don't want to

820
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 5: come off as that way. But when they were talking

821
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 5: about playing, I think it was one of the senators.

822
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 5: We're talking about putting phone numbers in ladies' bathrooms on

823
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: these major highways.

824
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 7: No.

825
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 5: Seventy one twenty five. If you know, you get off,

826
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: you use the restroom, you see it. If if you're

827
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: being trafficked, called this number, and that's great. However, if

828
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 5: you think these kids are allowed to go to the

829
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 5: restroom by themselves or have a cell phone, you're crazy.

830
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: It doesn't happen. I mean, these are the practice, the

831
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 5: practical things. But we need to the try State, US, Cincinnati.

832
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 5: We need to embracebrace this issue, not just at the

833
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 5: federal level. Yes, what King Skibo is doing is amazing.

834
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: He's trying to make all these different federal and state

835
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 5: and local authorities that are tracking these kids and trying

836
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 5: to find them work together. I don't know why we

837
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 5: haven't been but then, but that's not going to take

838
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 5: care of this situation. We desperately need local authorities to

839
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 5: work with people that in the foster care system and

840
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 5: also with people like the Varner Foundation that standards that

841
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 5: stand in the resource gap to be able to get

842
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: that menofol treatment, that therapy whatever for the kids that

843
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 5: are at our foster care. I am. I was reading

844
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: some of the comments as I was watching what was

845
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 5: going on, and there was some pretty pretty in your

846
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 5: faith comments as you know online as this was going on,

847
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 5: one of them and a lot of them kept turning

848
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 5: around and blaming the system that it's not regulated properly,

849
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 5: that these kids are these kids are putting in foster homes.

850
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 5: Are there a lot of foster kids that go into

851
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: foster home rather being being sexually abused, that get sexually

852
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: abused and foster care because we don't have enough, we

853
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: don't do the training, we don't do all this. And

854
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: the people these poor the foster care that are in

855
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 5: that foster care in different classes and guarding at lights

856
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 5: and stuff, they try so hard and they've got their

857
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 5: their hearts all in it, but you and I both

858
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: know their casefloads like through the ceiling and they can't

859
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 5: be everywhere all the time for every child so we

860
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 5: need we need to look at this, and we don't

861
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 5: look at this because it's uncomfortable.

862
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: It's it's hard, it's unbelievably hard, and to say it

863
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: is certainly an issue that that that does not get

864
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: brought to light often enough. And I always appreciate Evangeline

865
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: when you can come on and shed some light on this,

866
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: and uh, I know it's uh, it's you're You're hugely

867
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: passionate about this, and I certainly appreciate everything you do.

868
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: And that's why I love talking about the Varner Foundation

869
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: for Children and Families, because I know every dime that

870
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: goes there goes towards the mission. Dan Varner and and

871
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: and you and Brett Cole opp don't take and Rob Cookie,

872
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: you don't take a penny for yourselves.

873
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: It all goes to the mission.

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Speaker 5: If I could just end on one thing, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: so I can't quote Tim Tebow completely, but here's what

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Speaker 5: I will say. At the end of what he said,

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Speaker 5: I thought, I thought this was so brilliant. And he

878
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Speaker 5: looked right into the camera and he talked about we,

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Speaker 5: you mean, the nation, what would what do we do

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Speaker 5: with the things that are valuable to us, our homes,

881
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Speaker 5: our cars, our jewelry, the things that are important to

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Speaker 5: us and have value. We keep them safe. So why

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Speaker 5: aren't we evaluate evaluating these children enough to keep them safe.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was brilliant and I thought about that

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Speaker 5: all day.

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow is an amazing human being. Here, sir, are

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Speaker 1: you Evangeline?

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Speaker 2: We've got around.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about this again before too long. Always appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure, thank you, Thank you, talk to you again.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, And with that, we got

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Speaker 1: to get to a break ten twenty six, seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW back on the Big one, seven hundred WLW ten

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Speaker 1: forty We rolled till midnight tonight on the Wednesday night

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Speaker 1: edition of The Midweek Crisis. I'm Dan Carroll and joining

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Speaker 1: me now is Bildi Augostino. He is an m r

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Speaker 1: C Senior Research Analyst, Media Research Center. And Billy Augustina.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back on seven hundred wl W.

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Speaker 6: How you doing doing great man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Give me a grade so far of ever since the

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Speaker 1: the strike took place, I guess overnight on on on

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Speaker 1: Friday or.

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Speaker 2: Saturday and the Sunday.

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Speaker 1: What has the national news media coverage been like of

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Speaker 1: the operation and ran.

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Speaker 10: All right, so I'm going to couch this in a

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Speaker 10: caveat first. Okay, as as somebody who works at m RC.

909
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Speaker 10: If I'm not giving all of these networks in F,

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Speaker 10: then I'm not sure what my job is.

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Speaker 5: But uh.

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Speaker 2: God, your job, come on, your job is to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Give me.

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Speaker 6: Even even that, Even that being said, f f's basically

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Speaker 6: across the board. I mean, look, let me put it

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Speaker 6: this way. Trump struck Iran and the news media are angry.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 10: The interesting thing about that sentence is you could replace

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Speaker 10: struck and Iran with any other verb and direct object

920
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Speaker 10: and the sentence would still make sense.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 10: Trump passed a bill in the news media iry, Trump

923
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Speaker 10: ate lunch in the news media actor. I mean, it's

924
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Speaker 10: this is this is basically how they function, right, and

925
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Speaker 10: so what's what what is the disservice of that is

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Speaker 10: that there's there's actually like nuance to this issue. Right,

927
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Speaker 10: this is actually like a very meaningful event. This is

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Speaker 10: not you know, this is not just like some speech

929
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Speaker 10: that he gave that of course they all thought it sucked, right,

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Speaker 10: This is like a very major world event, and yet.

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Speaker 6: They're being the American people are being given.

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Speaker 10: The same facile, knee jerk summation, which is basically just, oh,

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Speaker 10: it was stupid, it was disastrous.

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Speaker 6: It was terrible.

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Speaker 10: Would basically no analysis whatsoever that they would receive for

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Speaker 10: any other story of the day when.

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Speaker 6: Trump does anything.

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Speaker 10: And so I mean this is this is basically like

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Speaker 10: the dumbing down of their own audiences.

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Speaker 6: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh, and well, I think the one thing I have

943
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Speaker 1: always said about the national media in this country, the

944
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Speaker 1: what I call the agenda driven media, is that the

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Speaker 1: American people are very poorly served by this national media

946
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Speaker 1: because they have an agenda and they are going to

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Speaker 1: pursue that agenda. I think they were. I think the

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Speaker 1: first time that Trump won the presidency, they were so

949
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Speaker 1: butt hurt by it that they that they just could

950
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Speaker 1: not let him win even the smallest victory. And I

951
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Speaker 1: think I think they still have a major hangover for that.

952
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Speaker 1: Every once in a while, and and look at even

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Speaker 1: NewsBusters gives them credit when CNN swerves into the truth

954
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Speaker 1: or NBC does something that's actually factual, or from time

955
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Speaker 1: to time CBS will give both sides of the story.

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Speaker 2: So I give, I give.

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Speaker 1: Now because they've never got no but I give them

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Speaker 1: credit when where credit is due. It doesn't happen all

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Speaker 1: that often, but when they do it, I make a

960
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Speaker 1: point to put it out, and then I just go

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Speaker 1: right back to hammering the media the way I normally do.

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Speaker 10: Right, right, because because what you're doing is you're you're

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Speaker 10: analyzing what's put in front of you, right, You're responding

964
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Speaker 10: to information, and then you're formulating a response, right, And

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Speaker 10: and that's that's what makes all of this meaningful.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 10: And and yet that's that is what is so terribly

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Speaker 10: absent from all the news media's analysis because again, they

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Speaker 10: were going to have a problem with whatever he did.

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Speaker 10: Like say, for example, obviously we know generally what the

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Speaker 10: circumstances leading up to the strikes on our on Iran work,

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Speaker 10: but obviously there was also some intelligence that none of

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Speaker 10: us here were pretty to that that say, only like

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Speaker 10: you know, the press and in his cabinet select advisors

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Speaker 10: were pretty to say Trump hadn't struck Iran, and whatever

976
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Speaker 10: that intelligence was leaked out. The news media right now

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Speaker 10: this moment would be criticizing him with the same level

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Speaker 10: of fervor for not striking Iran.

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Speaker 6: But they are right now for doing it.

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Speaker 10: And and that's I mean, that's a very complicated over

981
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Speaker 10: overleave or Bose way of saying danged if you do,

982
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Speaker 10: dang if you don't. But it really is, it really

983
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 10: is that simple. And and that's that's what's so exhausting

984
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Speaker 10: about this is that you know, on the right there

985
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Speaker 10: are actual debates about whether this was the right thing

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Speaker 10: to do. And look, some of it is like purely political, right,

987
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Speaker 10: So if you're a Republican strategist, you might be solely

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Speaker 10: concerned about the party's prospects in the midterms, and so

989
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Speaker 10: you say, oh, no, this wasn't the right thing to

990
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Speaker 10: do during a midterm. Then somebody who's more of a

991
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Speaker 10: national security wont says, well, how can you put politics

992
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 10: above national security and say that's a that's an interesting

993
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Speaker 10: debate to be had, right, But that is again entirely

994
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Speaker 10: absent because the criticism is only, well, Trump did it,

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Speaker 10: so we don't like it, and uh, here's here's all

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Speaker 10: the worst bits that we churry picked out for you

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Speaker 10: so that you'll be angry about it. That's that is,

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Speaker 10: that is solely what the coverage is. I cannot stress

999
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 10: this enough. There is there is not even a glimmer

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Speaker 10: of good faith in there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember when Barack Obama uh, and and I guess

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Speaker 1: it was the strikes on the ear strikes on on

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Speaker 1: Libya or it was some it was one of his

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Speaker 1: very earliest military actions. And the analysis after that was,

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Speaker 1: my gosh, uh, Barack Obama was able to process all

1007
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: this information, able to make the tough call. And and

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00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: here he is a day before and there was no

1009
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Speaker 1: hint at all that any of this was going on.

1010
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Speaker 1: And how was he able to compartmentalize all this and

1011
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: come out with such a brave face and then go

1012
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Speaker 1: back to the war room and and make this Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean and then and that's what the coverage of

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Speaker 1: of Obama was after a situation like that. And now

1015
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Speaker 1: it now it comes to Trump and and all you

1016
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Speaker 1: all we want to hear about is Trump is a

1017
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Speaker 1: stooge of I guess he's not a stooge of Putin anymore.

1018
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Speaker 1: He's a stooge for for bb net and Yahoo. And

1019
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: and he only did it because Israel said they were

1020
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Speaker 1: going to move. And they they love to hammer this narrative.

1021
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Speaker 2: What's that? Oh yeah, distraction?

1022
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So they love to hammer those narratives, no

1023
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Speaker 1: matter how how flimsy and phony they are, and they

1024
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Speaker 1: just they just keep doing it.

1025
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Speaker 2: Then don't keep doing it until a new narrative comes.

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Speaker 10: Along, right, I mean yeah, So being being a corporate

1027
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 10: journalist at this point is basically like being a call

1028
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 10: center employee, where you have like, you know, the binder

1029
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 10: of lines that you use where it's like, okay, they

1030
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Speaker 10: they said this or they did this, Okay, let me

1031
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 10: flip the page.

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Speaker 6: Three.

1033
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Speaker 10: Uh, this is the response, right, everything is pre written,

1034
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 10: it's all it's it's so exhausted.

1035
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Speaker 6: But again, I mean, we you at this point earlier.

1036
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Speaker 10: It does a great disservice to the American people because

1037
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 10: they don't they don't just not get the full picture,

1038
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Speaker 10: but they they're never even presented with a full understanding

1039
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 10: of what the issue that people are disagreeing about even is.

1040
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Speaker 6: And it's uh, I mean yeah, I can't.

1041
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 10: I can't stress this enough when it when it comes

1042
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 10: to something as as serious and and globally meaningful as

1043
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 10: foreign policy and airstrikes in another country, right, you have

1044
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 10: to imagine that somewhere there is some corporate journalist who

1045
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 10: is thinking, well, maybe I should take my partisan a

1046
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 10: hat off for like a second and.

1047
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 6: Actually try to inform some people of what's going on.

1048
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, like they they they've gotta they've

1049
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 10: got to hear something about, you know, what this did

1050
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 10: for us, right, But no, none, none of them are

1051
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 10: thinking that.

1052
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Speaker 6: None of none of them are thinking.

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Speaker 2: That at all.

1054
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Speaker 6: It's it's it's literally just the politics of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bill, did you see the the the the video

1056
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Speaker 1: of the It was like some reporter for CBS and

1057
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Speaker 1: and he's talking to one of his producers before his

1058
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Speaker 1: live hit, and and he's in front of a pro

1059
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Speaker 1: Trump demonstration where the these uh, these women, you know,

1060
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Speaker 1: these Iraqi women are Irani or not Iraqi, but Iranian

1061
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: women are celebrating Trump and talking about how much they

1062
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Speaker 1: love Trump, and the producers saying, get away from there.

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Speaker 2: We can't have that.

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01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: And the guy's like, no, wait a minute, this is

1065
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: the news. I'm here to report on this story. This

1066
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Speaker 1: is what's happening. And and to his credit, he didn't leave.

1067
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Speaker 1: But it in that producer that is the person that

1068
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: I everyone who has been even in local news knows

1069
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: who that producer is because that same producer works at

1070
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: every local TV station, every uh, every network every network

1071
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Speaker 1: is littered with people exactly like that who decide what

1072
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Speaker 1: they want the viewer to see on TV. And I

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Speaker 1: think I think a large part of the American people

1074
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Speaker 1: would be surprised if they knew who the people were,

1075
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: these mid to lower level people who are actually making

1076
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Speaker 1: these decisions about what actually gets on your TV screen

1077
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Speaker 1: that you see on a daily on nightly basis.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's such an important point.

1079
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Speaker 10: So much of the of the colossally meaningful gatekeeping happens

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Speaker 10: at a surprisingly low level, and often it is not

1081
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Speaker 10: the journalists, and it's certainly not the executives, right, because

1082
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 10: the executives primarily, at least in theory, are mostly focused

1083
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 10: on keeping the boat floating right and keeping the business

1084
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 10: profitable and maybe maximizing profits even But if you're a producer,

1085
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 10: you're probably solely in it for the politics, because there's

1086
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 10: no great publicity waiting for you, right when when one

1087
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Speaker 10: of your journalists goes and breaks something right, nobody's gonna

1088
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 10: rush to you and say like, hey, you did a

1089
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Speaker 10: really good job typing that typing that copy into the teleprompter, right,

1090
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Speaker 10: Or you did a really good job cutting to camera too, absolutely,

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Speaker 10: and and so there's there's no personal glory in being

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Speaker 10: a producer, and so one has to ask oneself what

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Speaker 10: is what is the incentive that people are acting on here?

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Speaker 10: And that's that is so often where the political activists

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Speaker 10: find themselves at home. You will find occasionally journalistic instincts

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Speaker 10: bubble up inside of the White House correspondence or the

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Speaker 10: Congressional correspondence or whatever. But that is that is entirely

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Speaker 10: absent from the people behind the scenes who are running

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Speaker 10: the whole thing, who are deciding the agenda.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that a little bit, because I

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Speaker 1: guess Caitlin Collins of CNN was slumming a little bit

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Speaker 1: today and she got to ask a question of Caroline Levitt.

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Speaker 1: And Curtis Houk wrote up a great piece on this

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Speaker 1: on NewsBusters, and he details the whole back and forth

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Speaker 1: with Caroline or Caroline Levitt and Caitlyn Collins, and Caitlyn

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Speaker 1: Collins is trying to make an issue that it actually

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Speaker 1: create an issue that doesn't even exist, suggesting that someone

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Speaker 1: either Pete Hegseth or Caroline Levitt or maybe even the

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Speaker 1: President himself, does not care for media coverage of the

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Speaker 1: dignified transfer of our fallen American military members when they

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Speaker 1: come back to the United States. That, of course, I

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Speaker 1: think everyone who supports Trump and everyone who doesn't support

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Speaker 1: supports Trump fully expects him to be there at that ceremony.

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Speaker 1: And Caitlyn Collins was trying to make for what I

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Speaker 1: don't know, some unknown reason to me, trying to make

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Speaker 1: an issue of this, pretending as if this administration wished

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Speaker 1: for them not to cover this. And Caroline Levitt was saying, look,

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Speaker 1: you guys do plenty that accrues to the not the

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Speaker 1: benefit of President at President Trump, but to the detriment

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Speaker 1: of President Trump. So why would we expect you to

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Speaker 1: do anything different? And then Caitlyn Collins is trying to

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Speaker 1: act like, now, that's not what we do that, but

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Speaker 1: that's what they do every time they do it. They

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Speaker 1: do it day in and day out. And Caroline Levitt,

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Speaker 1: thank God for thank God. I mean, you've got to

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Speaker 1: be impressed with what I mean, look at all the

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Speaker 1: members of this administration, Marco Rubio, Caitlyn Collins. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Collins, but Caroline Levitt, Pete hex Seth, Christina, every

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Speaker 1: member of this administration is jd Vance when it comes

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Speaker 1: to standing up against the media. It's it's one master

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Speaker 1: class after another, but they seem to never get their

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Speaker 1: fill of it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I have to say this administration probably handles the

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Speaker 10: media better than any we've seen before it and certainly

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Speaker 10: better than the first Trump administrator.

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Speaker 2: It's fun to watch it, really is. I enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: I think there's great entertainment though.

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Speaker 6: It is it's a bit of a master class.

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Speaker 10: And I I I think that, uh, there's there's a

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Speaker 10: lot of promise in jad Vance too when he when

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01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 10: he's uh, when he's in these one on one interviews,

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01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 10: you see people try again and again and again to

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01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 10: try to get him with these gotchas, and he does

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Speaker 10: so many of them actually do the same thing every time.

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Speaker 10: And it's it's something that I think not enough people

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Speaker 10: on the right really understand, which is you don't have

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Speaker 10: to accept the premise of a bogus question, right, And

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Speaker 10: and that's so often what the issue is with these

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Speaker 10: journalists is they'll they'll ask a question that assumes a

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Speaker 10: premise that is entirely based on progressive left wing kind

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Speaker 10: of Marxist adjacent to ideals, and you know the question

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Speaker 10: of for example, like okay, well you know, what what

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Speaker 10: are you doing to uh what what are you doing

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Speaker 10: to reduce the access to guns? And it's like, well, okay,

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Speaker 10: hold on, if if you're a why why do you

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Speaker 10: have to try to bowance, scrape and figure out well,

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Speaker 10: what what am I doing to try to produce access

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Speaker 10: to gun? Well, that's that's not of your platform, sir,

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Speaker 10: is it right? And that's that's the kind of question

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Speaker 10: that jd Vance would that's the kind of question that

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Speaker 10: Jdvance would reject out right, and he'd say, Margaret, I'm

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Speaker 10: interested in protecting the Second Amendment. That's that's what I'm

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Speaker 10: focusing on, you know, or whatever something like that. And

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Speaker 10: that's it's a mistake that you see people fall into

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Speaker 10: so often as they immediately implicitly accept the premise of

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Speaker 10: the question they're being asked, and thus they find themselves

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Speaker 10: tied up into knots because there's there's no good way

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Speaker 10: to answer a bad question.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bill Augustino, I'll tell you what. It has certainly

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Speaker 1: been fun that the time is flown right by. I

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Speaker 1: always appreciate having you and I always appreciate your insight

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Speaker 1: on this kind of stuff. Senior research analyst at MRC

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Speaker 1: keep up the great work man, and I certainly hope

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Speaker 1: we get a chance to talk again soon. As always,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time, I really do.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely Yeah, thanks for having me up.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Bill the Augustino from Newsblusters

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Speaker 1: and MRC. What a great organization. I check out that

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Speaker 1: website every single day. We got one hour to go.

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Speaker 1: New's coming up the top of the hour. Phone lines

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Speaker 1: are going to be open between now and midnight five

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Speaker 1: to one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one, eight

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Speaker 1: hundred the Big One, as we roll on on the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night edition of The Midweek Crisis on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: ww I gotta got the Big One seven hundred WLW

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Speaker 1: eleven O eight We roll till midnight tonight. On the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night edition of The Midweek Crisis, Joe wattell, let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and open the phone lines five one, three,

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Speaker 1: seven four nine, seven thousand and one, eight hundred the

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Speaker 1: Big One if you want to get on board. New

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Speaker 1: poll is out and the Democrats may not like it.

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Speaker 1: It's a new Harvard CAP's Harris poll. Quite devastating for

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Speaker 1: Democrats who hope to get the majority in the House

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Speaker 1: and the Senate back in November let's see. According to

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Speaker 1: the poll, Trump's overall approval sits at forty six percent,

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Speaker 1: looking upward across nearly every policy area. His strongest marks

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Speaker 1: come on fighting crime in cities fifty one percent, forty

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Speaker 1: eight percent approval, on immigration, returning America to its values

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Speaker 1: forty eight percent approval. His weakest categories are responding to

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Speaker 1: anti ice protests in Minneapolis forty two percent, tariff and

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Speaker 1: trade policy forty three percent. And let's see. This is

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Speaker 1: this is I'm read from PJ Media here. This is

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Speaker 1: where it especially gets inconvenient for Democrats. A full fifty

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Speaker 1: two percent of voters say the economy is better today

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Speaker 1: than it was under Biden, up five points from January.

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Speaker 1: Fifty one percent say the economy is strong right now.

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Speaker 1: That is up eight points since November of last year.

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Speaker 1: Thirty six percent say their personal financial situation has improved.

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Speaker 1: That is up four points from November. And these are

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Speaker 1: all nice gains for Republicans heading into the midterms. So

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Speaker 1: midterms are going to be interesting this time around. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we know Jasmine Crockett lost her her primary, but the

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Speaker 1: guy that she lost to it's no treaty either. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to get some of that a little bit later

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Speaker 1: on the Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Nome was up

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill yesterday and today, and she absolutely dropped

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Speaker 1: a bomb about the Biden administration. And I want to

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Speaker 1: get to that in just a minute. But she also

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Speaker 1: and look, I got no problem with the members of

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Speaker 1: the cabinet, the heads of the various departments. They should

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Speaker 1: testify on a regular basis before Congress. Congress has oversight.

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Speaker 1: They need to know what's going on, and they should

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Speaker 1: get the director in there. But when it comes to

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Speaker 1: whether it's Pete Hegseeth, whether it's Mark Rubio, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondy, doesn't matter. All the Democrats want to do

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Speaker 1: is try and make Trump look bad. They're not trying

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Speaker 1: to get any legitimate, legitimate information. They just want to

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Speaker 1: tell these secretaries that they should be fired, that they'lve in.

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Speaker 1: And there was one congresswoman who told Christy Nome today

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Speaker 1: that Trump's not always going to be president and when

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Speaker 1: he's gone, then I guess she'll be subpoena or she'll

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Speaker 1: be prosecuted, or something bad is gonna happen. But Christy

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Speaker 1: Noman was on Capitol Hilly yesterday and today, and at

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Speaker 1: one point she was laying out why ICE attainers are

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Speaker 1: important and Joe Waddell, let's here cut number one please.

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Speaker 11: So Madame's secretary, what is that's the value of an

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Speaker 11: ICE detainer and why is it such an important public

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Speaker 11: safety tool?

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Speaker 12: Well, a detainer that we would lodge with the local

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Speaker 12: law enforcement jurisdiction lets them know that when they are

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Speaker 12: going to release that individual out to the public, that

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Speaker 12: we would like to take custody of that When we

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Speaker 12: have detainers that are honored, we can go into a courthouse,

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Speaker 12: we can go into a jail or a prison and

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Speaker 12: in a safe environment, take custody of that individual, take

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Speaker 12: them to a detention center and remove them to their

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Speaker 12: home country. When they don't honor our detainers, that individuals

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Speaker 12: released out into the streets. And what we know for

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Speaker 12: a fact is hundreds and hundreds of times thousands of

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Speaker 12: times across the country, those individuals reoffend. And what they're

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Speaker 12: by not honoring detainers is creating more victims.

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Speaker 11: When ICE is usual detainer, you're not asking local officers

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Speaker 11: to conduct immigration sweeps and neighborhoods. You're requesting simply notice

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Speaker 11: before release or brief lawful holds, so you can assume custody.

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Speaker 3: Right, That is correct.

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Speaker 11: If ICE is requesting a shorthold, that means that the

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Speaker 11: individuals already in state or local custody correct. And individuals

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Speaker 11: in jail are there because there was probable cause for

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Speaker 11: rest in many cases because they've been convicted of crimes.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 1: So when you listen to Christy Umm lay out the

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Speaker 1: importance of ICE detainers, does that sound complicated at all?

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Speaker 1: Does that sound like something that should call for protests

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Speaker 1: in the street. Got people who are number one here illegally. However,

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Speaker 1: they got here illegally. They crossed the border illegally, They

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Speaker 1: came in legally at one point. Then there whatever visa

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Speaker 1: they were on expired, they didn't show up for court

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Speaker 1: when they were supposed to, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about people who have had contact with

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Speaker 1: the justice system, and in sanctuary cities like Cincinnati apparently

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Speaker 1: wants to be they want to let these people out

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Speaker 1: of prison, out of jail, whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 1: before ICE can get a hold of them. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to have any cooperation with the Immigrations and Customs enforcement.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to have any cooperation with federal law

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Speaker 1: enforcement that's going to come and take them away. And

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Speaker 1: this is something that we've talked to Sheriff Jones about repeatedly,

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Speaker 1: and he has been saying this for years. It's much

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Speaker 1: safer to do it. If you've got any illegal that

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Speaker 1: is locked up for whatever reason and there's an ICE

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Speaker 1: detainer on him or that, him or her, whoever that

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Speaker 1: person may be. It's much easier, much safer for not

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Speaker 1: only the officers involved, but for the individual involved as well.

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Speaker 1: You're in a controlled environment. You don't have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of agitators trying to run you over with their cars,

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Speaker 1: or stick their cell phone in your face, or blow

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Speaker 1: whistles or otherwise interfere with the lawful things that you're

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Speaker 1: trying to do as a federal agent. Sheriff Jones understands that,

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Speaker 1: and so he's all he's all about cooperating with the

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Speaker 1: Feds on a level like this. So one of the

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Speaker 1: things that the Democrats normally try to do is they

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Speaker 1: try to make the whichever secretary is up there testifying,

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Speaker 1: they try to make that secretary look bad. And that's

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Speaker 1: what Eric Swalwell did today when he laid out the

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Speaker 1: thoroughly thoroughly debunked false narrative of the five year old

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Speaker 1: boy with the bunny hat. On that the national media

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Speaker 1: went crazy with talking about how this kid was detained

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Speaker 1: by the big bad Ice, Big bad Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 1: Christy Nolan wasn't having any of it.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear a cut number two.

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Speaker 13: I went in saw Miguel in Mexico.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have a job.

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Speaker 13: He's not being able to provide, and he said his

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Speaker 13: Spanish isn't even that great because he hasn't been there

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Speaker 13: for thirty years and it's hard for him to communicate.

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Speaker 13: Do you see the pain of families like Miguel Lopez,

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Speaker 13: someone who did not commit a violent crime but has

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Speaker 13: been separated from his family and is not providing, is

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Speaker 13: not working.

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Speaker 6: Congression to see that pain?

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Speaker 12: Did he have a criminal record?

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Speaker 13: Did mister Lopez have a criminal record? In nineteen ninety

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Speaker 13: five he pled to a lesser non violent charge.

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Speaker 3: But do you see the pain?

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Speaker 2: Get somebody?

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Speaker 12: I do see the pain, and I wish people would

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Speaker 12: do things correctly. If they're not in legal status in

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Speaker 12: this country, they can return home. We will pay for

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Speaker 12: them to return home. I hope he got the twenty

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Speaker 12: six hundred dollars he.

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Speaker 4: Could have figed.

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Speaker 2: That makes up for not being.

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Speaker 11: With the helps.

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Speaker 12: It helps because we have agreements with these countries where

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Speaker 12: they are helping to facilitate.

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Speaker 6: House a non violent Lime secretory.

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Speaker 12: Then he gets the chance to come back the right way.

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Speaker 12: Now that he's waited until he's been detained and deported,

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Speaker 12: he will never get the chance to come back to

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Speaker 12: the United States. You would have made the right decision

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Speaker 12: and decided to go home to help his family and

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Speaker 12: him to be together. They have choices that they can

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Speaker 12: make to be together, and we're hopeful that they will continue.

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Speaker 3: To do that.

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Speaker 1: So swawell, who cares? No one cares. If it was

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Speaker 1: a non violent crime. The dude was here illegally, And

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Speaker 1: what's this business about? Oh my Spanish isn't that good?

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Speaker 1: I haven't been there for thirty six years. Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: If you grow up speaking a language English, Spanish, whatever

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Speaker 1: language that might be, and that's your first language, if

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Speaker 1: you were out of the United States for thirty years

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Speaker 1: and you came back to the United States, would you

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Speaker 1: still be able to speak English?

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Speaker 2: What I never heard?

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that one before I grew up there

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Speaker 1: learned to speak the language as a kid, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I forgot it because I was

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Speaker 1: hiding out in the United States for so long. And

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Speaker 1: Christine Umam's like, hey, look, we got a program for

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Speaker 1: people like this. We put twenty six hundred dollars in

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Speaker 1: your pocket, and not just your pocket, but every member

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Speaker 1: of your family's pocket as well. If you do things

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Speaker 1: the right way, and then you have the chance to

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Speaker 1: come back later on. It's a great deal. But christineum

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Speaker 1: also dropped a pretty big bomb today testifying at the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration funneled cash to sponsors who trafficked and abused

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Speaker 1: unaccompanied migrant children. Federal dollars poured through the Department of

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Speaker 1: Health and Human Services right into the pockets of adults

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Speaker 1: escaping screening, meaning many of those people ended up as

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Speaker 1: outright predators. The Office of Refugee Resettlement dump kids in

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Speaker 1: the homes without solid background checks, skipped consistent DNA testing,

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Speaker 1: ignored follow ups that could have kept them safe. Nearly

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Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty thousand kids cycled through the system,

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Speaker 1: many of whom disappeared after the sloppy placements. No slammed

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Speaker 1: down document, document and proof linking this mess straight to

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Speaker 1: the federal blunders. The Democrat National Committee can't spin its

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Speaker 1: way out of this disaster. You know, they will try

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Speaker 1: to help from their mainstream media friends. But finding evil

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Speaker 1: like child trafficking with tax payer money, it's not just incompetence,

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Speaker 1: it's downright wicked.

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Speaker 2: This is a piece in PJ.

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Speaker 1: The Biden cruis ditched widespread DNA testing at the border,

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Speaker 1: which was used to confirm if adults were really family.

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Speaker 1: They watered down background checks as millions flooded in. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. You got these kids who were showing

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Speaker 1: up at the border, many of them unaccompanied, but the

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Speaker 1: ones who were with adults, they never checked to determine

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Speaker 1: if those adults were the mom or the dead or

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Speaker 1: even family sponsor snake, multiple kids from a single address,

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Speaker 1: no questions asked. Federal contractors or federal contracts I should

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Speaker 1: say ballooned, including fat no bid deals worth hundreds of

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars to groups handling migrant youth. Andrew Lorenzen,

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Speaker 1: straight from her Biden transition official and senior advisor and

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Speaker 1: immigration ops, helped craft those deals. Billions in grants zip

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Speaker 1: through DHS, checks lagged thousands of kids left exposed in

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Speaker 1: a rush job system that prioritize haste over protection. Secretary

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Speaker 1: Gnome revealed that enhanced enforcement has tracked down one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty five thousand of those ghosted kids. A joint

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Speaker 1: task force with ICE in the Department of Health and

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Speaker 1: Human Services now digs into addresses that house multiple miners.

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Speaker 1: They've busted over four hundred sponsors for exploitation or scams

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Speaker 1: so far. So this and I've talked about this many times.

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Speaker 1: This is the legacy of the Biden administration. And we

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Speaker 1: are talking earlier about Tim Tebow being up on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill testifying trying to get a bipartisan bill, and the

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Speaker 1: bill already exists. He's trying to get it a proved

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Speaker 1: bipartisan bill that would put a task force together whose

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Speaker 1: job it is to go out and identify these kids

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Speaker 1: and rescue these kids. And this has been going on.

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Speaker 1: This thing got just got ratcheted up to such an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable degree during the Biden administration. So, Christineome, not only

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Speaker 1: did you have Tim Teba talking about it on Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome was as well. And we can only hope

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Speaker 1: that something gets done about it. Greg is in Michigan. Greg,

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Speaker 1: you're on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for taking my call. Miss everybody go for

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Speaker 3: your dreams. So am I getting this right? You're implying

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Speaker 3: that Biden is responsible for everything, and you believe that

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Speaker 3: christineom is doing a good job. You're getting it right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying that the Biden administration is responsible for

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Speaker 1: funneling these kids into being traffic for sex and abuse,

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Speaker 1: and getting these kids set up with sponsors who were

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Speaker 1: not looking out for their best interests, sponsors who were

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Speaker 1: supposedly family members. But the Biden administration never checked that

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Speaker 1: that you had multiple kids going to single addresses and

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Speaker 1: the sponsors were raking in millions of dollars, the NGOs

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Speaker 1: that serviced them and set them up. Yeah, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So you would say that Biden, if he knew exactly

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Speaker 3: what you said, he would be aligned with that.

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Speaker 1: No, the Biden administration knew exactly what was it. Christy

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Speaker 1: Noome's not the first person to testify about this up

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. There have been whistleblowers. There have been

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Speaker 1: multiple people who have told members of Congress that all

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Speaker 1: this was going on during the Biden administration when they

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Speaker 1: were just allowing a flood of millions of undocumented, nearly

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants into this country, were hundreds of thousands of kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've never seen Tom Homan talk about this, the three

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Speaker 1: hundred plus thousand kids that got lost in the system

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Speaker 1: when the Biden administration was in charge. And Tom Homan

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Speaker 1: has talked about how his agents have gone out and

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Speaker 1: found over one hundred and forty thousand of these kids

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Speaker 1: so far.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a story. Doesn't make the news very much.

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Speaker 1: That Christy numb was just given some more details to

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Speaker 1: lawmakers up on Capitol Hill today.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I did not know that. And do you.

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Speaker 2: Feel that it's a horrible thing? Yeah, it is absolutely shameful.

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Speaker 3: And when does Trump take responsibility for things that have happened?

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Speaker 3: I mean, could have been done with under Obama and

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Speaker 3: prior to that, could it have been done under Trump?

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Speaker 3: Did all of a sudden everything happen under Biden? Does

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Speaker 3: it make sense to you that when you initiate programs

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Speaker 3: that it's not initially It.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense to me that Trump is shut down the border.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense to me that Trump has stopped the

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Speaker 1: flow of the illegals coming into this country. It makes

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Speaker 1: sense to me that we don't have hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: of unaccompanied minors showing up at the border and going

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01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: to so called sponsors who are going to abuse these

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01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: kids in the worst way possible. None of that is

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Speaker 1: happening under the Trump administration. The Trump administration is trying

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Speaker 1: to find these kids that got lost. He's been in

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Speaker 1: office a little bit over a year now, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, locating one hundred and forty thousand of these

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Speaker 1: kids so far as is a pretty good deal, don't.

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Speaker 3: You Yes, I would definitely say that. Do you feel

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Speaker 3: that Ice how they responded to various things? Did they

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Speaker 3: do a good job? Great job?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? It comes to the border one hundred God has

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Speaker 1: got to be done.

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Speaker 2: Got to get.

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Speaker 3: Talking about are we talking about Minneapolis and various other

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Speaker 3: places that maybe there's a lack of training and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: Greg, Greg, you've been drinking the media kool aid for

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Speaker 1: too long. When Tom Homan, when Tom Holman went to Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: he went.

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Speaker 3: There, he had fifty dollars from somebody. Is it true

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Speaker 3: that he got fifty thousand dollars in cash?

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Speaker 1: Tom Homan has flat he's denied every bit of it,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think there's any evidence that would.

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Speaker 3: Be that I deny it. And then you're saying that

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Speaker 3: I'm drinking the media coop age. Yeah, you gotta understand.

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Speaker 3: If there's one.

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Speaker 1: Truth, well here's here's here's another trith. Tom Homan went

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Speaker 1: to Minneapolis and talk to the mayor, talked to the

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Speaker 1: governor and said, look, this is the way they were

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Speaker 1: going to do things now. And ever since then, they've

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01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: started putting in custody illegals who are being held in

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Speaker 1: the system, so they're not being released out onto the

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01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 1: streets anymore. So the demonstrations have stopped. Things have become

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Speaker 1: peaceful in Minneapolis. Why because Tom Homan went there and

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Speaker 1: told them the way it was going to be and

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Speaker 1: that's exact, so they stopped with the foolishness.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, so you're you're saying that one time moment

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Speaker 3: got there, everything's fine, but when they left, it hasn't

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Speaker 3: gotten better. Don't you think that the problem was caused?

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Speaker 1: The situation in Minneapolis has definitely gotten better. It's gotten

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Speaker 1: one thousand percent better. Are you are you saying when

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Speaker 1: you turn on when you turn on the news, every night.

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing the demonstrations going on? Are you seeing

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01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: all these people out on the street blowing the whistles

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01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: and getting in the way. And I'm way late for

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Speaker 1: a break here, but Greg, I appreciate the call. Feel

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Speaker 1: free to call back again some time. Totally lost track

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Speaker 1: of time there. Eleven twenty seven, we got to get

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Speaker 1: the news on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Big one, seven hundred WLW at eleven.

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Speaker 1: We rolled till midnight tonight on the Wednesday night edition

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Speaker 1: of the Midweek Crisis. And I get to come back

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Speaker 1: and do it again tomorrow night. So I'm always looking

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01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: forward to that. I was, I was flipping through some

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01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: stuff during the break and I sort of caught this

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Speaker 1: headline that was elsewhere on the page. I was on

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01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: Breitbart News and I was looking at something and I

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01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: saw this headline. You know how they got all the

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01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: stories to go down the right hand column of the page.

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Speaker 1: I had to do a double take on this. But

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Speaker 1: according to Breitbart, Democrat New York Attorney General Letitia James

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Speaker 1: ordered one of New York City's largest hospitals to resume

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Speaker 1: providing sex change drugs to minors after the hospital sided

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Speaker 1: to stop its transgender youth program, citing pressure from the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration. I talked about this a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: when this came up in the news. Jameson a lenner

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Speaker 1: to New York University Lane Going on February twenty fifth,

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Speaker 1: claiming the hospital's decision to end its transgender youth program

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01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: is jeopardizing healthcare across or access for vulnerable people in

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Speaker 1: the state. The letter threatened further action if the hospital

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Speaker 1: does not comply. NYU lang Going appears to be suddenly

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Speaker 1: and indefinitely canceling transgender children's future appointments, thereby jeopardizing access

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Speaker 1: to medically necessary healthcare for some of the most vulnerable

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers. Well, first of all, Attorney General Letitia James,

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Speaker 1: this is not healthcare, and these kids not having access

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Speaker 1: to this butchery. None of this is medically necessary, absolutely

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01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: none of it. This woman is an absolute imbecile. I

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01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: think there was always reason to question her professional judgment

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01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: in terms of the law, but now she has shown

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Speaker 1: that she has no judgment when it comes to common sense,

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01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 1: and she certainly doesn't know anything about this issue. Attorney

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Speaker 1: General Leatitia James, all you have to do is do

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Speaker 1: a little bit of reading, and you will know that

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Speaker 1: subjecting kids to these.

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Speaker 2: Cross hormone therapies and the.

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Speaker 1: Gender what do they called the rejection drugs, and the

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01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: surgeries and all the rest of it, none of that

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01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: is medically necessary. But she says it is. So if

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01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 1: this hospital doesn't start providing this again, well then she's

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01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: going to see to it that they get what's coming

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01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 1: to them. What an absolute moron. Senior Minnesota government officials,

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Speaker 1: including Tim Walls and Attorney Keith Ellison. Attorney General Keith

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01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: Ellison another another brilliant one there. We're aware of claims

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01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: of widespread fraud in the state's federally funded welfare programs

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01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: for years, but failed to act other than to retaliate

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01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: against whistleblower, the House Oversight Committee concluded in a report

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01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: that was released earlier today. Both Walls and Ellison we're

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01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: testifying before the committee today and one of those committee

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Speaker 1: members is Representative Brandon Gill and he brought this up

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Speaker 1: to Tim Walls, and he asked the governor about the

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01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,799
Speaker 1: way he treats whistleblowers who brought this to his attention,

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01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: and it sounded like this, Joe Waddell's hear cut number nine.

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01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: Please?

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01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 14: Are you familiar with Fay Earnstein?

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01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm familiar with the name. She's a Democrat, isn't she.

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01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know that.

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Speaker 14: She stated publicly that she's a Democrat. She's only voted

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Speaker 14: Democrat in her life. She's also stated publicly that she

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01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 14: was retaliated against him, called racist, and that her work

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01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 14: responsibilities were diminished whenever she was highlighting fraud within your administration.

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with that? I couldn't speak to it.

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Speaker 14: Why do you think Why do you think she would

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01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 14: say that?

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Speaker 2: I can't. You have no idea.

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01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 3: I do not.

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Speaker 14: You would agree that the tone in your administration comes

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01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 14: from from you ultimately, right? The tone is that the

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Speaker 14: tone of how you might deal with whistleblowers, right, and

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Speaker 14: we protect them. It doesn't sound like you're protecting them.

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Speaker 14: We heard from Representative Kristin Robbins what we have dozens

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Speaker 14: of credible whistleblower reports saying the exact same thing, that

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Speaker 14: people were told not to say anything because they'd be

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01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 14: called racist or islamophobic or it would hurt the state.

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Speaker 14: Do you think it's racist or islamophobic to highlight and

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Speaker 14: try to stop fraud?

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Speaker 2: It is not, and I certainly it's not, but that was.

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Speaker 14: The message your administration was sending to multiple whistleblowers.

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Speaker 2: I can't speak to that. You can't speak to that.

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01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Maybe don't want to speak to that. I think I

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01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: can't speak to that.

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Speaker 1: So there's the Governor Walls trying to be very clever

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Speaker 1: when faced with the facts.

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01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: Well, I can't speak to that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can't speak to that, because you know that's what

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01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: you were doing in Minneapolis when whistleblowers came to you

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01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: and said, look at all this fraud that is happening,

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01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 1: and now it's resulted in him, I can't run for

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01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: office again. Got to concentrate on all this stuff. He

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01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 1: was right in the middle of it the whole time.

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01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: So you've got Bernie Sanders socialists from Vermont, teaming up

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Speaker 1: with Representative Rocanna, Democrat from California, and they have some

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01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: new legislation that they're going to introduce. They want a

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Speaker 1: five percent annual wealth tax on billionaires and they want

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01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: to use this money to to give it to everyone

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01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: who's earning less than one hundred and fifty and a year.

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01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 1: If you're earning one hundred and fifty thousand, dollars a year.

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01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Do you need money from the federal government?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you're a New Yorker someplace really expensive like that,

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01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: But around here, I don't think so. The bill which

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01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:26,759
Speaker 1: politicians are calling the Make Billionaires Pay their Fair Share Act,

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01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean, who the hell these people think they are?

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01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, as Bernie Sanders and Rokanna been touched by

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01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:41,759
Speaker 1: the hand of God, did they know they can divine

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01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: what paying their fair share is or what anyone paying

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01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:51,799
Speaker 1: their fair share is? The bill, which politicians are calling

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01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: the Make Billionaires Pay their Fair Share Act, would raise

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01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 1: four point four trillion over a decade, according to a

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Speaker 1: letter from Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zuckman, economists at the

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Speaker 1: University of California, Berkeley. The letter from the two economists

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01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: on Berkeley letterhead advocates the tax less as a tool

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01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: to raise revenue and more of a way of curbing

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Speaker 1: what economists described as an unprecedented level of wealth concentration.

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Speaker 1: Wealth concentration, why is that the government's business? Why is

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01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: that the business of Bernie Sanders and Rocana? Wealth distribution?

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Speaker 1: The government should have no say so in any of that.

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Speaker 1: That should all be determined by market forces, by capitalistic forces.

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01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: The wealth out there gets distributed because of and look,

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01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: there are some are there, some people who cheat, some

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01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: people who still yes, But largely it's because of someone's

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01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 1: own individual desire to work, desire to achieve, desire to earn.

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01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: That's how wealth is distributed. It's earned. Some people start

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01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,560
Speaker 1: a business and succeed wildly. Others start a business and

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01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: they fail. There are no guarantees. But you've got Bernie

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01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: Sanders and Rocanna who want to go out there and

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01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: decide that they are the arbiters of who's got enough

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01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: money and who doesn't. I mean, think about that. A

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01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 1: five percent annual well tax on billionaires annually. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what Gavin Newsom wants to do in California. And

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders said, right after Newsom decided that in California,

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Speaker 1: that this is something that needed to happen across the country.

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Speaker 1: How's that for your affordability? You know, Democrats in Virginia

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01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: very concerned about affordability. How many times have we heard that?

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01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Very concerned about affordability? Big issue, it's everyone. And so

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01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:43,839
Speaker 1: the Democrats in Virginia are stepping up, taking action, sending

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01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: a signal to lawmakers, perhaps a signal all across this

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01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: great land that they are getting serious about dealing with

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01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: the issue of affordability.

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01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 2: So in order to.

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01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: Make things more affordable in the Commonwealth of Virginia, the

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01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: Democrats there have well, they've passed a state budget and

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01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: that budget calls for a pay race for lawmakers of

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01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:26,480
Speaker 1: nearly three hundred percent. And that's how you deal with affordability.

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01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 1: I mean, they have found the answer. When it comes

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01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: to affordability and you need to afford things, you just

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01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 1: give yourself a pay raise of nearly three hundred percent. Now,

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01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: lawmakers in Virginia don't make all that much money to

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01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: begin with. It's a part time job. I think they're

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01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: only in session I may sixty days out of the year.

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01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 1: So for sixty days out of the year they're making

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Speaker 1: If you're a representative, you make seventeen thousand, six hundred

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01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 1: and forty dollars. If you're a senator you make eighteen grand.

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01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: That's going to go up to forty five thousand dollars now,

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01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you get a bump in your salary

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01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: from eighteen thousand to forty five thousand, it's amazing. All

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01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, things become a lot more affordable, a

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01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,759
Speaker 1: lot more affordable for you, you know, for the people

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01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: who you represent. Maybe not so much for them, but

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01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: they've taken care of this for themselves. Everyone else. Sorry,

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01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, maybe you run this by your boss

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01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 1: where you work in the private sector. There three hundred

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01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: percent pay raise, all of a sudden, that you get

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01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 1: one of those. How about that, Joe Waldell, You get

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01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: a three hundred percent pay raise all of a sudden.

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01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: Affordability not not much of an issue as it used

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01:40:58,600 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 2: We gotta go. I'm I'm out of here. Raphael.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't see your call until it was too late,

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01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 1: but I'm up against the clock, so i gotta go.

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01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Joe Waddell, thank you for everything. We

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Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow night. We'll do it all again

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Speaker 1: on the Thursday, that edition of the Midweek Crisis here

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Speaker 1: on the Home of the Reds seven hundred WLW