Speaker 1: I want to be an American.
Speaker 2: Indio News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in four
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan on New Year's Day, twenty twenty six. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what, since I've been working so much, I
Speaker 2: had a kind of a laid back New Year's last night.
Speaker 2: Made it through the first quarter of the Ohio State game.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad now that I did fall asleep.
Speaker 2: Didn't get any better from what I saw the first quarter.
Speaker 2: It's a darn shame. Ohio State started this season with
Speaker 2: so much promise and pretty much ends it with two losses.
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's what happens when you get old.
Speaker 2: You just don't really hear too much about New Year's
Speaker 2: Eve anymore. Hey, you know, we had a guy yesterday
Speaker 2: that called and said, hey, you guys are doing too
Speaker 2: much fluff here. Well, the big news is, of course,
Speaker 2: the situation in Minnesota and that broke And I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what. I'm gonna talk about it, but I will say,
Speaker 2: because this is the first day of twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a little bit of fluff today too.
Speaker 2: But interspersed with that, we got some serious stuff. James
Speaker 2: Bogan attorney is going to call in and talk about
Speaker 2: a situation that has come up with the whole trans
Speaker 2: surgery and all that and really really sad story. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to James about that at ten o'clock. I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to this. Eleven o'clock Kevin Burton. We're gonna be
Speaker 2: talking about the political stories of the year. We had
Speaker 2: Kevin on yesterday. We did kind of a lightning round
Speaker 2: thing kind of similar to that. I think it was
Speaker 2: really good. Then at eleven thirty, jud Dunning is he's
Speaker 2: a talk show host, he's also an author. He is
Speaker 2: going to talk about and boy it's good because he's
Speaker 2: got an ourbed piece about civility and the situation in
Speaker 2: Israel and how it's a moral kind of comprehension thing,
Speaker 2: how we are on the right side of that. Jud
Speaker 2: is a great guest. I've had him on before, and
Speaker 2: we're going to talk to him about that. But in
Speaker 2: the meantime, I want to talk to you about something
Speaker 2: that broke yesterday, and we've all been talking about it.
Speaker 2: People have been saying the same thing pretty much that yeah,
Speaker 2: Minnesota's got their problems, but we perhaps might in Ohio
Speaker 2: here and finally some things are starting to happen along
Speaker 2: those lines, but you know, from what I've read so far,
Speaker 2: it's still kind of an open question as to whether
Speaker 2: we have a Minnesota situation in Ohio here. The Columbus
Speaker 2: Dispatch was pretty much all over this. They had an
Speaker 2: article yesterday, I guess points out that a viral video
Speaker 2: alleging daycare in Minnesota's Somali community prompted the FBI to respond,
Speaker 2: and then following that calls for investigations in Ohio. Ohio
Speaker 2: GOP lawmakers are asking the state to investigate similar unproven
Speaker 2: claims of frauds circulating on social media about the Columbus
Speaker 2: area daycares. The Ohio Governor's office states it has a
Speaker 2: long standing robust anti fraud measures in place for its
Speaker 2: attendance based public daycare funding system. Didn't get a chance
Speaker 2: to dive into this thing too much, but that last statement,
Speaker 2: the Ohio Governor's office having long standing robust anti fraud measures,
Speaker 2: Ohio having the ows, It looks like that probably is
Speaker 2: the case. Anyway, what got this role and we played
Speaker 2: it yesterday. The video It chose a citizen journalist. He
Speaker 2: visited multiple daycare centers in the Twin cities, which he
Speaker 2: says are abandoned despite being licensed to serve dozens of
Speaker 2: children and receiving public funds. To USA Today reported and
Speaker 2: looking at it further, Ohio is it has the second
Speaker 2: largest Somali immigrant population in America after after Minnesota. Okay,
Speaker 2: so the Dispatch, the Columbus Dispatch, they lean left. I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would doubt that. They quickly said that
Speaker 2: the evidence did not substantiate the claims. You know, and
Speaker 2: I went nuts yesterday on the New York Times for
Speaker 2: an article they had about Minnesota and knocking the young
Speaker 2: man is his name, I forget his first name, knocking
Speaker 2: him for what he did, going around with a cameraman
Speaker 2: and a cell phone camera, checking up on these daycare centers.
Speaker 2: And it's a forty eight excuse me, forty two minute video.
Speaker 2: You ought to watch it if you can't, without question,
Speaker 2: without question, it shows that he shows up at all
Speaker 2: these daycare centers, no kids, no nobody.
Speaker 3: And the New York Times spent I don't know, four
Speaker 3: or five.
Speaker 2: Pages basically saying how horrible that was, and you know,
Speaker 2: this guy's not a professional journalist, and blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, well, the obvious question becomes, then, where were
Speaker 2: you New York Times. Why didn't you, supposedly a legitimate
Speaker 2: media outlet, why didn't you investigate? I'm kind of thinking
Speaker 2: and maybe it's a little too early to say this.
Speaker 2: The same may be true for the Columbus Dispatch. I
Speaker 2: guess we shall see one day this week. It wasn't yesterday,
Speaker 2: maybe Monday or Tuesday. We're talking about it on the air.
Speaker 2: I've been in for Sloaney all week, last week and
Speaker 2: this week too. State Senator Steve Huffman he said he
Speaker 2: was driving and he was listening, so he called in.
Speaker 2: He's state Senator for Ohio District five, Preble County, Dayton
Speaker 2: area and that.
Speaker 3: And he's pretty.
Speaker 2: Emphatic that he was hearing too that Ohio may have
Speaker 2: some problems along those lines.
Speaker 3: So I guess we shall see.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, I know Mike Dwine and he is I
Speaker 2: guess what you'd call maybe a penny pincher, which is good,
Speaker 2: keeps a pretty good eye I think on the money
Speaker 2: being spent in the state of Ohio, not just for
Speaker 2: this stuff, for everything else.
Speaker 3: But it's it's unfolding.
Speaker 2: H I spoke with a can't reveal the name, but
Speaker 2: a national journalist yesterday who told me that that journalist
Speaker 2: is all over this up and Columbus and will probably
Speaker 2: be writing something about it within the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: So we'll make sure that we keep up on this.
Speaker 2: It's not something obviously that you're gonna let go. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you. I've said it before. I'm sure people are
Speaker 2: sick of hearing it. This is, without question, the biggest
Speaker 2: government fraud case that I have ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 2: And I'm no spring chicken, you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: truly staggering, just the amounts of money that they're talking about.
Speaker 2: And some person, some commentator referred to it, I think
Speaker 2: very appropriately it is the grift that keeps on giving.
Speaker 2: And I think, well into the new year, we're going
Speaker 2: to be hearing about this. So let's take a short
Speaker 2: break and come back, and we may start a little fluff.
Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Slowne on New Year's Day, seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW nine twenty News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike
Speaker 2: Allen in for Sloane on New Year's Day, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: We have open lines from nine thirty to ten and
Speaker 2: then again from ten thirty two eleven. If you want
Speaker 2: to be a part of the festivities seven four nine,
Speaker 2: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one hour of
Speaker 2: the numbers, we'd love to hear from you. But the
Speaker 2: one thing I did want to say before we get
Speaker 2: into the fluff, if you will Saturday, on Saturday midday,
Speaker 2: I am going to be talking to Russ Neville and
Speaker 2: perhaps other members of the Neville family about the just
Speaker 2: abominable situation with Cincinnati Police Chief Tarifa Fiji.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you probably heard already, we're running it on.
Speaker 2: Our news cast that city of Cincinnati is going to
Speaker 2: continue their quest to find some reason to fire her
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: They hired a law firm.
Speaker 2: I believe it's Frost Brown Todd, which is a great
Speaker 2: law firm. No knock on them at all, but it
Speaker 2: would seem to me they hired this law firm pretty
Speaker 2: much with a charge if you will, Hey, we got
Speaker 2: to find something to hang our hat on for firing
Speaker 2: this chief, and could you please help us find it.
Speaker 2: It is an absolute travesty, one of the biggest travesties
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five in this city. And as I said,
Speaker 2: we'll be talking Saturday, not sure what time yet with
Speaker 2: Russ Neville of the Neville family about that, and we're
Speaker 2: going to do a deep a dive into that as possible,
Speaker 2: because again, what has happened to her is just not
Speaker 2: right and should not happen to anyone. So the city
Speaker 2: blew it on that one. Something tells me that if
Speaker 2: Chiefdiji does not come back, which apparently, for reasons known
Speaker 2: only to the city administration, don't want her back, she's
Speaker 2: going to be reaping a whirlwind, if you will, in
Speaker 2: a settlement against the city. And the city's already I
Speaker 2: believe already paid out quite a few bucks for the
Speaker 2: firing or termination, whatever you want to call it of
Speaker 2: the fire chief and also some other things too, So
Speaker 2: city needs to get their act together. But I want
Speaker 2: to do as deep a dive as possible into this
Speaker 2: as I can on Saturday. Anyway, getting two the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five stories big stories of that year, broken down
Speaker 2: sports music, which I know nothing about if it's not
Speaker 2: something that is recorded within the last thirty five or
Speaker 2: forty years. But we didn't do it anyway, but Fox News,
Speaker 2: thank god for Fox News. They have the ten medium
Speaker 2: moments and controversies that defined twenty twenty ten media moments
Speaker 2: and controversies that defined twenty twenty five. It is very thorough.
Speaker 2: I think it's very accurate and very fair. So let's
Speaker 2: start with that. Number one. This is great jury fine,
Speaker 2: CNN committed defamation against navy veteran. Settlement reached on punitive damages.
Speaker 2: And this one got by me because I don't remember
Speaker 2: much about this, but at any rate, as Fox News
Speaker 2: explains it, a jury found that CNN committed defamation against
Speaker 2: US Navy veteran Zachary Young and was responsible for punitive
Speaker 2: damages in January, after more than eight hours of deliberation.
Speaker 2: And you know, on a complex civil case, a defamation case,
Speaker 2: eight hours isn't that long a deliberation At any rate,
Speaker 2: this man, mister Young, he successfully alleged that CNN smeared
Speaker 2: him by implying he illegally profited when helping people flee
Speaker 2: Afghanistan on the black market during the Biden administrations. And
Speaker 2: I'll kind of beat this up here. Botched and just
Speaker 2: horrible military withdrawal from that country in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it. We look bad in
Speaker 2: the eyes of the world. We left behind billions and
Speaker 2: billions of dollars in military equipment, all because Joe Biden
Speaker 2: couldn't get his act together. Anyway, Young said CNN destroyed
Speaker 2: his reputation and business by branding him an illegal profiteer
Speaker 2: who exploited desperate Afghans during a November eleventh, twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one report by Alex Marquart that first aired on CNN's
Speaker 2: The Lead with Jake Tapper.
Speaker 3: Jake Tapper, of.
Speaker 2: Course you all know him, probably one of the most
Speaker 2: biased journalists in the country. Although I have to say,
Speaker 2: because I read it, he did write a pretty accurate
Speaker 2: and pretty critical book, if you will, about one Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris and the election, the recent presidential election back in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. You know, I told people, I said, hey,
Speaker 2: look I bought the book. I wasn't happy about it,
Speaker 2: but I bought it, so you didn't have to at
Speaker 2: any rate. Overall though, he's pretty biased journalist. But getting
Speaker 2: to the story, the six six person jury ruled Young
Speaker 2: was awarded The sixth person jury ruled that Young was
Speaker 2: awarded four million bucks in lost earnings, a million dollars
Speaker 2: in personal damages such as pain and suffering and said
Speaker 2: that punitive damages were warranted against CNN. And again, this
Speaker 2: is all after eight hours of deliberation, which is nothing
Speaker 2: on a civil case of this nature. As the jury
Speaker 2: was gearing up to determine punitive damages, the appellate court
Speaker 2: stepped in. They announced that Young and CNN, the lawyers
Speaker 2: announced that Young and CNN reached the settlement for the
Speaker 2: amount that would be awarded to the Navy veteran. The
Speaker 2: Jerry Foreman later told Fox News Digital they were prepared
Speaker 2: to make CNN pay are you ready somewhere in the
Speaker 2: neighborhood of fifty to one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3: This is what CNN says.
Speaker 2: After the settlement, CNN said it would take useful lessons
Speaker 2: from the decision. You know, I have to tell you,
Speaker 2: I don't like rejoicing in other people's glee or other
Speaker 2: people's problems, But this media stuff finally, finally, finally, and
Speaker 2: mainly it's Donald Trump. People are standing up to the
Speaker 2: mainstream media in the case of President Trump, not just
Speaker 2: him personally, but his administration. You know, I love watching
Speaker 2: the Sunday shows when one of his people are going
Speaker 2: to be on it, like the Vice President Marco Rubio.
Speaker 2: If the host and the questioner ask a question that
Speaker 2: they feel is unfair or not ask properly, boom, they're
Speaker 2: in their face. You know the days are gone when
Speaker 2: Dan Rather whoever, asks a question and you know the
Speaker 2: recipient of the question just cowers in fear. Oh, I
Speaker 2: can't say anything about Dan Rather. Blah blah blah, uh
Speaker 2: uh no more. And the mainstream media has no one
Speaker 2: to blame but themselves for that. And Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: ringing them up big time, Paramount and CBS. And I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to get this finished before the news,
Speaker 2: so I'll come back to it. Paramount CBS forced to
Speaker 2: pay eight figures change their editorial policy in a settlement
Speaker 2: with President Trump and CBS, of all of them, probably
Speaker 2: the most biased of all, certainly what question the most
Speaker 2: arrogant media outlet?
Speaker 3: Well, it'd probably be a close.
Speaker 2: Tie with The New York Times, but anyway, they were
Speaker 2: forced to pay eight figures and change their editorial policy
Speaker 2: in a settlement with the president. Paramount Global and CBS
Speaker 2: agreed in July to pay President Donald Trump a sum
Speaker 2: that could reach north of thirty million to settle the
Speaker 2: president's election interference lawsuit against the network.
Speaker 3: I know you'll remember this.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was seeking twenty billion dollars in his lawsuit
Speaker 2: against CBS over the way they handled this is classic
Speaker 2: CBS classic sixty minutes, the way they handled a sixty
Speaker 2: minute interview last year with then Vice President Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: and basically Trump accused the network of election interference leading
Speaker 2: up to that contest. By the way they edited this thing,
Speaker 2: you can rest assured. I mean, Kamala Harris, even the
Speaker 2: edited version that CBS put out looked like an idiot.
Speaker 2: But man, the whole unredacted interview looked like an idiot,
Speaker 2: even more so than she usually does. So when we
Speaker 2: get back, I'm going to kind of finish up on
Speaker 2: this one. Mike Allen in for Slowney seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: Hey, we're back.
Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Sloane on New Year's Day twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six, talking about the ten media moments and controversies
Speaker 2: that define twenty twenty five, a list compiled by Fox
Speaker 2: News Digital. When we were bumping up against the news here,
Speaker 2: I was talking about paramount and CBS forced to pay
Speaker 2: eight figures to the president. Actually he's putting this money
Speaker 2: towards his presidential library and CBS, and we'll be talking
Speaker 2: about CBS and the only one that was forced to
Speaker 2: pay up to the president. Anyway, they agreed to pay
Speaker 2: eight figures. They changed their editorial policy in this settlement.
Speaker 2: So here's what was all about. And you know, like
Speaker 2: I said, you probably y'all saw it the lawsuit. Trump
Speaker 2: filed suit against CBS. It alleged that CBS News and
Speaker 2: they did deceitfully edited and exchanged with Kamala Harris that
Speaker 2: she had with sixty minutes. It was a sixty minutes
Speaker 2: correspondence Bill Whittaker. So they're going back and forth. This
Speaker 2: was in the closing days too of the election. And
Speaker 2: of course, you know CBS and most of these other
Speaker 2: mainstream outlets, they don't see their job as to inform you.
Speaker 2: They see their job as to advocate for the liberal
Speaker 2: politicians and causes.
Speaker 3: That they like.
Speaker 2: Pretty damn simple. That's the way it's been for as
Speaker 2: long as I can remember. But thankfully, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to say it's coming to a close, but it's starting
Speaker 2: to take the wind out of their sales a little bit. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So Kamala is doing her word salad. She's in this
Speaker 2: conversation with Bill Whitaker sixty minutes and he asked her specifically,
Speaker 2: why Israelly Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah who wasn't listening to
Speaker 2: the Biden administration? Stupid question to begin with, He wasn't
Speaker 2: listening to the Biden administration because they had nothing of
Speaker 2: substance or helpful to say about the situation. Harris was
Speaker 2: widely mocked. She what a surprise for the word salad
Speaker 2: answer that aired in a preview clip of the interview
Speaker 2: on Face the Nation Faced the Nation, of course, as
Speaker 2: the CBS very biased Sunday program.
Speaker 3: However, when that same question.
Speaker 2: Was aired during a primetime special on the network, Harris
Speaker 2: had a different, more concise response.
Speaker 3: Gee, what a shock.
Speaker 2: Critics at the time at UCBS News of deceitfully editing
Speaker 2: Harris's word salid answer to shield the Democratic nominee from further.
Speaker 3: Backlash leading up to election day.
Speaker 2: Now, I ask you a rather obvious question, is that
Speaker 2: their job to do that?
Speaker 3: To make her?
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, this idiot of the first degree, who can't
Speaker 2: even string a sentence together, who refused to let the
Speaker 2: public know what her position on the issues of the day,
Speaker 2: The important issues of the day were is that their
Speaker 2: job to do that or is it their job to
Speaker 2: interview the woman? Put the interview on and let the
Speaker 2: people decide. Anyway, That's my little editorial moment there. However,
Speaker 2: when the same question aired during a primetime special, as
Speaker 2: I said, she had a different, more concise response.
Speaker 3: Gee, how does that happen?
Speaker 2: And critics at the time atqu CBS News of deceitfully
Speaker 2: editing Harris's word salad answer, as I said, to shield
Speaker 2: her from further backlash. As you all know, she took
Speaker 2: a lot of guff for her word salads. Anyway, Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 3: A great part. I just love reading this.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump received sixteen million bucks up front. Okay, that
Speaker 2: covered legal fees, you know, court costs in the case,
Speaker 2: other costs and contributions to his future presidential library or
Speaker 2: charitable causes to deep be determined at President Trump's discretion.
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing that has to gall, absolutely has
Speaker 2: to gall CBS. There's also there was also an anticipation
Speaker 2: that there would be another allocation in the eight figures
Speaker 2: set aside for I love this and you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to say it.
Speaker 3: I believe it when I.
Speaker 2: See it, because it's almost too good to be true. Okay,
Speaker 2: there would be another allocation in the eight figures set
Speaker 2: aside for advertisements, public service announcements, or other similar transactions
Speaker 2: in support of conservative causes by the network in the future.
Speaker 2: How great is that these arrogant you know what's at
Speaker 2: CBS who sit up on high and think that they
Speaker 2: know so much more than you do. By God, that's
Speaker 2: why they're going to shape the news the way they
Speaker 2: want it to be done. They now are going to
Speaker 2: have to do these ads, presumably television ads, basically supporting
Speaker 2: conservative causes. It don't get any better than that, folks.
Speaker 2: Just around this thing up here. Sources close to the
Speaker 2: situation told Fox News Digital that CBS has agreed to
Speaker 2: update its editorial standards to install a mandatory new rule.
Speaker 2: Going forward, the network will promptly release full, unedited transcripts
Speaker 2: of future presidential Canadas interviews. People involved in the settlement
Speaker 2: talks have referred to it as are you ready the
Speaker 2: Trump rule? You may recall on this thing. When it
Speaker 2: came out, the president and others were demanding, demanding to
Speaker 2: see at least let us see the entire unedited transcript,
Speaker 2: and CBS, being the arrogant news outlet that it is, said, no,
Speaker 2: we're CBS, we don't have to do that.
Speaker 3: Well guess what they did.
Speaker 2: They did, and they say they're going to change their
Speaker 2: policy too and not have this happen again, and they're
Speaker 2: going to call it the Trump rule. You just you
Speaker 2: gotta love it, You gotta love it. Hey, listen, I
Speaker 2: know it's New Year's Day. You all got a lot
Speaker 2: to do. But if you want to be part of it,
Speaker 2: here seven four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred the
Speaker 2: big one. Those are the numbers. Let's take a short
Speaker 2: break and we'lcome back. Mike Allen in for Slowey, seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW, nine thirty seven News Radio, seven hundred WLW
Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Sloaney on New Year's Day, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six. Hey, we're talking about some of the media things,
Speaker 2: the big media moments and controversies that defined twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: If you want to be a part of it, seven
Speaker 2: four nine, seven one, eight hundred, the big one are
Speaker 2: the numbers. We've got Fred up in Xenia. I want
Speaker 2: to hear what he is to say, Happy New.
Speaker 5: Year, Fred, Well, happy New Year. You do a fantastic
Speaker 5: job on the radio. Thank you and always enjoy hearing you.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I ended up in Xenia, but I did business in
Speaker 5: Cincinnati for over forty years. Okay, it was in the
Speaker 5: event business and tons of events with the Democrat Party,
Speaker 5: with the Republicans that everybody. I worked with, everybody, and
Speaker 5: it was a complete joke that the Democrat Party is
Speaker 5: a in my humble opinion, is a complete criminal organization.
Speaker 5: Everything they do is about scamming money and getting control
Speaker 5: over people.
Speaker 6: When you look at the.
Speaker 5: Different things going on in Cincinnati and Ohio and Columbus,
Speaker 5: now you know all of this, all of this corruption
Speaker 5: going on on that there's no way in the world
Speaker 5: that that can go on without them knowing about it.
Speaker 5: And you know, the first thing out of the win's office,
Speaker 5: which I have a completely different opinion of him than you,
Speaker 5: but when when they first come out of his office
Speaker 5: is his comments to you know, oh, that's just.
Speaker 6: Part of doing business.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're if you're running legitimately a state
Speaker 5: and you have fraud brought up to you, your first
Speaker 5: response is not to accept it. Your first response should be,
Speaker 5: let's look into it and find out what the truth is.
Speaker 2: Frank, let me let me ask you, is that what
Speaker 2: the governor said, this is just a part of doing business.
Speaker 2: Because I didn't see that. I could have missed it,
Speaker 2: but I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 5: That was credited in the paper on the gateway punting
Speaker 5: from his office.
Speaker 7: Okay, So I don't know if.
Speaker 5: That came directly out of his mouth or out of
Speaker 5: his associates there.
Speaker 3: Well, whoever said it, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, it ain't part of doing business, and it's
Speaker 2: not the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 6: Well, and you look into things, you know.
Speaker 5: What we need to look into now is not only
Speaker 5: the amount of money that are going to these daycare centers,
Speaker 5: but where's the money going from there?
Speaker 6: Because there's no.
Speaker 5: Way that a politician is going to turn their head
Speaker 5: and allow you to skim money and that without getting.
Speaker 6: A piece of it. They're just not going to do it.
Speaker 5: And why why would anybody turn their heads to corruption
Speaker 5: unless they're getting a piece of it.
Speaker 2: Well, and let me ask you, I think by the
Speaker 2: end of the day, when it's all said and done
Speaker 2: up in Minnesota, that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: It has to because as you accurately.
Speaker 2: Point out, I mean, all the graft going on up
Speaker 2: there and nobody knows about it. It just it would
Speaker 2: kind of make a person think that somebody is stuffing
Speaker 2: something into their into their wallet.
Speaker 6: But well, they've already shown that in Minnesota.
Speaker 5: They've already shown contributions from these daycare centers directly to
Speaker 5: Democrats in that And I get that, I.
Speaker 2: Mean directly to the person itself, which is blatantly illegal,
Speaker 2: and it's it's a felony, the campaign finance thing, the
Speaker 2: campaign contributions.
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, But unfortunately that's kind of
Speaker 2: a part of politics.
Speaker 3: I mean, it probably should be changed at some point.
Speaker 2: But you know, we had a federal trial down here
Speaker 2: against a former Cincinnati City council member TG Sittenfeld PG
Speaker 2: sitting Feld who got convicted on it, but he was
Speaker 2: pardoned by the president.
Speaker 5: Well there's you're completely right in that. You know, some
Speaker 5: of that could just be legitimate, you know, politicking, But
Speaker 5: you don't come in like elon Omar, into a position
Speaker 5: in government.
Speaker 6: Yeah, where you're worth you.
Speaker 5: Know, forty to fifty thousand dollars and in less than
Speaker 5: a year. You're worth thirty million. That just doesn't happen
Speaker 5: without a really good story.
Speaker 3: You're so right, You're so right.
Speaker 2: And the FBI is on the ground there now, as
Speaker 2: I understand it, in force with all their investigatory tools.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, if anyone's going
Speaker 2: to get popped criminally up there, I'd put her at
Speaker 2: the top of the list, followed closely behind the boob
Speaker 2: governor they.
Speaker 3: Have up there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, and to look at Nancy Pelosi too,
Speaker 2: I mean, how many millions of dollars did she make
Speaker 2: while she was in office and she doesn't have any other.
Speaker 5: Job, right, hundreds of millions, And she and her trades
Speaker 5: have outpaced every single professional investor that.
Speaker 6: Is that is in the market's She.
Speaker 5: Is, without question, the best investor ever in the country.
Speaker 5: It's ludicrous. And the same thing with the you know,
Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green. You know, she goes up there, she's, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm a Trump supporter and everything else, and she's, you know,
Speaker 5: worth seventy five eighty thousand dollars and five years later
Speaker 5: she's worth twenty five millions. Yeah, I mean, come on,
Speaker 5: and there's no way to hide those things. All we
Speaker 5: have to do is be serious about looking into it.
Speaker 5: I mean, you've been fighting crime forever. You know that
Speaker 5: you cannot hide a thirty million dollar wealth in there
Speaker 5: without some.
Speaker 6: Strings going somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yep, you're so right about that.
Speaker 2: And like I said a million times this week, I
Speaker 2: think we're at the tip of the iceberg on this thing,
Speaker 2: not only in Minnesota but all over the country.
Speaker 3: Just the abject waste of our money.
Speaker 2: And this is what happens, in my opinion, when you
Speaker 2: put these people in charge, Liberal Democrats, this is what
Speaker 2: is going to happen.
Speaker 3: And we're all feeling it now.
Speaker 5: Well, what I saw behind the scenes and working with
Speaker 5: these people is that this is an orchestrated effort. In
Speaker 5: my venue in Cincinnati, on stage, I had the head
Speaker 5: of the Democrat Party from Colorado and he spoke and
Speaker 5: in detail talked about how they destroyed the career of
Speaker 5: Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, you know, the first State of
Speaker 5: American senator in history. And they talked about how they
Speaker 5: discovered a low level employee working for him who was
Speaker 5: involved in a nasty divorce, had given a couple of
Speaker 5: bonuses to people that worked for her. They cashed the
Speaker 5: checks and kicked it back to her to pay her
Speaker 5: divorce lawyer. The senator had nothing to do with it,
Speaker 5: no knowledge of it or whatever, but he laid out
Speaker 5: on my stage and I had to listen to it.
Speaker 5: I did record it. How they took that, contacted a
Speaker 5: friend in the Justice Department to develop this into a
Speaker 5: crime and an investigation of the senator, and they ended
Speaker 5: up ending his career, knowingly ending his career on what
Speaker 5: they started out from as a lie.
Speaker 6: And they knew it.
Speaker 5: He was bragging about it and teaching those people in
Speaker 5: Cincinnati how to do the same thing. The first thing
Speaker 5: you do is opposition research.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's pretty much par for their course. Hey,
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. This has been a great call, Fred,
Speaker 2: but I do have to move on. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for sharing that.
Speaker 6: Thank you for your time.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, the man sounds like he knows what he's
Speaker 2: talking about. And his voice too. I know that kind
Speaker 2: of indicates to me that he's been in journalism, TV,
Speaker 2: radio or whatever at some point. That's just a guess
Speaker 2: on my part. Hey, let's talk to Rick. He's in Dallas. Hey, Rick,
Speaker 2: how you doing.
Speaker 6: First?
Speaker 3: Thing the New Year, Thank you, sir, you too, you too, you.
Speaker 8: Yours for uh for st I have a couple subjects,
Speaker 8: but for openers, Uh was mister Larry Householder? Was he
Speaker 8: a Democratic Republican Republican?
Speaker 6: Wasn't he?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, exactly, and.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he ripped all was the sixty big one,
Speaker 8: big big one.
Speaker 9: It was huge.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was you.
Speaker 2: And he's in prison and he's going to be sitting
Speaker 2: there for many many years to come. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that was the That was the shall I say, ballsiest
Speaker 2: move that I've ever seen, and it just blew up
Speaker 2: in his face.
Speaker 3: And you know, somebody like that. I don't have a
Speaker 3: sympathy for him.
Speaker 8: But the guy never quits. He's still appeal with that.
Speaker 8: I mean, everybody is just as clear as black white here.
Speaker 3: No, And it was I agree, it was. It was
Speaker 3: a strong conviction.
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean people, especially at that level,
Speaker 2: they appeal just as a matter of course, and you know,
Speaker 2: good defense attorneys and I don't know who represented him.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he had good counsel.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: They just try to pick it apart. But I don't
Speaker 2: see that thing getting overturned on appeal. I really don't
Speaker 2: just the bla the blatantness of it, the brazenness of
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 3: That's one for the books, just.
Speaker 8: To dove tell that same subject missed the householder. You
Speaker 8: don't think he would buy himself.
Speaker 9: I wonder how how.
Speaker 8: Much of that, the good things he did, got passed
Speaker 8: around there. Yeah, Columbus, Well, there were a lot of
Speaker 8: people took advantage of that.
Speaker 2: There were others convicted as well. Matt Borges was one,
Speaker 2: and there was also one a high powered lobbyist whose
Speaker 2: name just escapes me at the time, who tragically committed
Speaker 2: suicide over it. So yeah, he wasn't the only one
Speaker 2: that suffered, but he was the ringleader and he got
Speaker 2: zapped pretty bad. I don't think mister Borges got anything
Speaker 2: close to the sentence that that householder did.
Speaker 8: Was your twenty years household.
Speaker 3: Something like I think it is twenty years.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, no one of these. If that was me,
Speaker 8: I'd be trying to appeal at too.
Speaker 9: You know, yeah, you know, literally.
Speaker 8: Got his hand got caught the cookie jaw. I'll still
Speaker 8: be trying to get an appeal, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean that's like that whole thing.
Speaker 2: It was like nineteen thirty ninety teen twenties politics, just
Speaker 2: a blatant, brazen attacked successfully until he got caught. Millions
Speaker 2: of dollars for that too, for that energy company.
Speaker 3: And man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a I think there's a book that's
Speaker 2: been written about it. I read a long, long article
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago about it. It's it's really
Speaker 2: something to see and to hear about and kind of
Speaker 2: watch it unfold.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 8: Well, and my other topic was education, Yes, sir, well,
Speaker 8: I kind of guess you know. I went, I'm gonna
Speaker 8: use the alumnus engineer and alumnus okay, and I've got
Speaker 8: a lot of complaints there. Uh now, no, I'm not
Speaker 8: gonna buoy him engine in. But there's a lot of
Speaker 8: other majors where these college kids, college kids like us,
Speaker 8: We went in there and spent tens of thousands of
Speaker 8: dollars knowing you're gonna give a good job.
Speaker 3: Ball of me in.
Speaker 8: Yeah, sometimes those good jobs don't show up. You know,
Speaker 8: I'm saying, no worries is there's some corruption going over there.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of pipelining going on there.
Speaker 8: Even with those they PCU, there's a lot of pipelining
Speaker 8: going on.
Speaker 6: So so a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people.
Speaker 8: They'll pay you money on the front end, you know,
Speaker 8: and you know, just so they could get your started
Speaker 8: in there. Sit on the back of here and you
Speaker 8: think you're going to make you know, I'll make here
Speaker 8: and you look nothing there?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 8: Is there some corruption going on?
Speaker 2: Our higher education system is a mess? Rick, I'm out
Speaker 2: of town, man. I'm bumping up against the news. But
Speaker 2: I really appreciate the call. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I am bumping up against the news.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk to attorney
Speaker 2: James Bogan. He is going to tell a tragic tale
Speaker 2: of a twenty year old person who got the transition
Speaker 2: surgery and very very quickly thereafter determined that it was
Speaker 2: not a good thing. And it's just a sad story.
Speaker 2: And James will laying out when we get back. Allen
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Do want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: Hey, we're back, Mike Allen in for Scott Sloan on
Speaker 2: New Year's Day, twenty twenty six. Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what this last year just flew by. It really did well.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you Our next guest, James Bogan, Attorney James
Speaker 2: Bogan and also podcaster, has a sad story to tell
Speaker 2: us about the whole transitioning thing that all took place
Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty five. James, can you kind
Speaker 2: of kick it off here by telling us about this situation,
Speaker 2: the name and what it involves and everything else.
Speaker 10: Yes, you saw.
Speaker 4: The Department of Health and Human Services have a recent
Speaker 4: announcement for regulations to end sex change procedures on minors,
Speaker 4: pursuing the Trump's executive order right from last year, and
Speaker 4: this twenty one d trans year old d transition named
Speaker 4: Chloe Cole was at the center of this, and in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three she filed a lawsuit against various hospitals
Speaker 4: for pushing her into getting these procedures done between the
Speaker 4: ages of twelve and sixteen. I mean, she was a
Speaker 4: tomboy and these doctors just pushed her straight into these
Speaker 4: procedures because you know how, back when I was growing up,
Speaker 4: when I first started hearing about adults getting these kinds
Speaker 4: of procedures done, they would have to live for a
Speaker 4: year or so as the opposite gender before even getting hormones.
Speaker 4: And now with minors, for some reason, you have these
Speaker 4: activist doctors who like to push them right in the
Speaker 4: hormones after like a thirty minute meeting or something like that.
Speaker 2: And Jamie, I mean that's been an ongoing problem throughout
Speaker 2: the country until President Trump's in and kind of dropped
Speaker 2: a hammer.
Speaker 3: Is that accurate?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he only banned his executive order only affects hospitals
Speaker 4: and medical facilities that receive federal funds, this Department of
Speaker 4: Health and Human Services stuff. But I think goes further
Speaker 4: than that. Obviously I need to look at it more,
Speaker 4: but basically what happened here is when this ms Cole
Speaker 4: was showing signs of being a tomboy, her doctors didn't
Speaker 4: share the risks only how did the benefits. I say
Speaker 4: this in quotes of stopping female puberty and using testosterone
Speaker 4: and these. I mean, these doctors just completely, you know,
Speaker 4: fast tracked her onto this stuff like they do in
Speaker 4: a lot of other cases. And her parents they felt trapped, right,
Speaker 4: you were basically told by the doctors she's going to
Speaker 4: commit suicide, and and she feels her parents were forced
Speaker 4: to make this decision under duress. I mean, as far
Speaker 4: as the suicide part you saw from the cast report,
Speaker 4: the peopril that came out in April twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: out of the UK, a three hundred and eighty eight
Speaker 4: page report that basically debunked all these ideas that are
Speaker 4: pushed by doctors and said no one under eighteen should
Speaker 4: get hormones and great cautions should be exercise of patients
Speaker 4: under twenty five. And then there was that ten million
Speaker 4: dollars study out of the children's hospital in LA that
Speaker 4: showed that puberty blockers don't improve kids' mental health. That
Speaker 4: was the one where the doctor in charge of it,
Speaker 4: in October of twenty three came under fire for refusing
Speaker 4: to publish the study because I don't want these findings politicized.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, this is just facts, right, not conjecture.
Speaker 2: Well, anytime you do something on that the left doesn't like,
Speaker 2: no matter what it is, I'll say, well, you're just
Speaker 2: using this for political purposes. I think you and I
Speaker 2: talked a while back too, James. There was a Dutch study,
Speaker 2: a fifteen year Dutch study that confirmed transgenderism that something
Speaker 2: that I think we all understood, transgenderism among children is
Speaker 2: largely a fad, And it would seem to me that
Speaker 2: anyone with any common sense could have figured that out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that study basically showed that once they're pasted the
Speaker 4: years of puberty, they get over it large statistically, I
Speaker 4: mean that statistics, not just some stuff coming from the
Speaker 4: MAGA crowd and quite frankly from the Dutch. They're not
Speaker 4: exactly the most conservative boundary. So when you have these
Speaker 4: European countries, all of them are way more liberal than
Speaker 4: the US coming out with these findings, that should make
Speaker 4: you think of it.
Speaker 2: You would, yeah, and exactly, but apparently they're not. And
Speaker 2: you know in theory that you gave me and you
Speaker 2: did mention the parents, you know, they do say now
Speaker 2: that they were worried about the suicide thing, But I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it seems to me if my
Speaker 2: child came to me with, you know, this kind of question,
Speaker 2: I would do a little bit more than shrug my shoulders,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the thing is now, Chloe Cole is dealing
Speaker 4: with numerous complications from all these procedures, I mean, the medications,
Speaker 4: the surgeries. Doesn't know if she's going to be able
Speaker 4: to have kids or breastfeed, and some of the breast
Speaker 4: reconstruction she had has failed, so she has to wear
Speaker 4: bandages on her chest every day, she had to get
Speaker 4: skin grafts done on her chest.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a direct quote from her quote as an adult,
Speaker 2: I am now grieving, and on top of that, the
Speaker 2: I'm batch this the area oler skin graphs they use
Speaker 2: in my surgery began to fail two years afterwards. Like
Speaker 2: you just say, James, she says, and this is her speaking,
Speaker 2: I must wear badges on my chest, a bandages on
Speaker 2: my chest every day. And what a sad, sad situation.
Speaker 2: And you know how old was she when she started
Speaker 2: this whole process?
Speaker 6: Twelve?
Speaker 4: What that hell can sixteenth? And the thing is, there
Speaker 4: have been absolutely no studies about the long term safety
Speaker 4: of blockers and hormones, so anyone who says they've been
Speaker 4: proven safe is lying.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Well she's got another quote here, James, and you touched
Speaker 2: on this again.
Speaker 3: This is MS Cole. I'm quoting her for betimere.
Speaker 2: My legal guardians were forced to make this decision, meaning
Speaker 2: I guess her parents under duress.
Speaker 3: She shared that in a previous statement.
Speaker 2: Goes on to further say, quote, but even if my
Speaker 2: parents had supported transitioning medically from start, no parent or
Speaker 2: adult ultimately has a right to determine whether a child
Speaker 2: gets to be chemically sterilized or mutilated. A pretty self
Speaker 2: evident statement in and of itself, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And that's coming straight from the person right all this
Speaker 4: stuff was done to I mean, how many of these
Speaker 4: people are being silenced by the left just so they
Speaker 4: can push their agenda. Oh, let's just sweep this under.
Speaker 2: The rug, right right, Well, you know, and you've been
Speaker 2: talking about this for a long time. You and I
Speaker 2: have been talking about it for a long time. I
Speaker 2: ask you this question just about every time we talk.
Speaker 2: Do you see this thing kind of going in the
Speaker 2: other direction, where, in addition to the President's executive water
Speaker 2: other things you correct me if I'm wrong, other things
Speaker 2: are happening to put a stop to this just cruel
Speaker 2: and brutal procedure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see this between Aside from the government regulation,
Speaker 4: we're seeing these de transitional lawsuits. And right now, some
Speaker 4: of these lawsuits are hitting a brick wall with statue
Speaker 4: of limitations with because it's the courts are considering them
Speaker 4: medical malpractice. You'll probably guess what leading those judges have.
Speaker 4: And the thing is, you've got fraud in here. Too,
Speaker 4: it's not just medical malpractice. And there's a push in
Speaker 4: a number of states to limit this, to expand the
Speaker 4: statute of limitations to as long as thirty years past
Speaker 4: the patient's birthday. And in September in Congress there is
Speaker 4: a bill introduced called the Victims of Chemical or Surgical
Speaker 4: Mutilation Act, which expands it to twenty five years, and
Speaker 4: it would ban medical professionals from performing these procedures on
Speaker 4: kids and create a civil right of action for detransitioners.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: It's certainly needed, and you know, just looking at it
Speaker 2: here there was a quote from miss Cole that I
Speaker 2: thought was very very appropriate and just kind of put
Speaker 2: the put the whole thing in a good, a good light,
Speaker 2: and it was a quote about pretty much hate we are.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find her here, James, that, oh, here,
Speaker 2: it is what she needed, This is miss Cole. What
Speaker 2: she needed. Cole said was to be loved and affirmed
Speaker 2: for the way God created her as a young and
Speaker 2: yet tom boyish little girl.
Speaker 3: Now growing up.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I got a few years on you, James,
Speaker 2: but we've both seen, you know, girls that were tomboys
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you rip their bodies apart and you know,
Speaker 2: detransition them.
Speaker 3: It's just a very very sad story.
Speaker 2: And you know, as you just pointed out, there are
Speaker 2: things that are in process to try to put a
Speaker 2: stop to it. We got some time left here. I
Speaker 2: did want to ask you though about another case, Clementine Brain,
Speaker 2: who I think she got involved in this stuff at eleven,
Speaker 2: she's now twenty one.
Speaker 3: Did you tell us about that story?
Speaker 11: Yeah, she was actually her.
Speaker 4: The doctor who did this same stuff to her was
Speaker 4: the doctor behind that children's hospital study in LA that
Speaker 4: I mentioned a couple minutes ago.
Speaker 6: And you know, the.
Speaker 4: Doctor falsely claimed the Breeden's parents that Breen would commit suicide,
Speaker 4: express suicidal thoughts, falsely claimed she had a male identity
Speaker 4: since childhood, when in reality she had just started having
Speaker 4: those thoughts months prior to treatment, and there was nothing
Speaker 4: in the doctor's notes about suicidal thoughts. I mean those
Speaker 4: obviously doctors are trained to write that stuff down if
Speaker 4: it's happening, right right, they have to and right now.
Speaker 4: This is one of those cases that was dismissed for
Speaker 4: under statute of limitations grounds for medical malpractice by likely
Speaker 4: activist judges. I mean, this is in California state courts,
Speaker 4: so you know how that's going right right now, it's
Speaker 4: under appeal. But that's where the stuff about expanding statute
Speaker 4: of limitations comes into play as well.
Speaker 2: Sure, well, you know, as I said, with this young
Speaker 2: person at eleven, the notes indicate she found solace in
Speaker 2: the transgender activist community on Tumblr and thought, quote, this
Speaker 2: is going to fix me.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean obviously it was actually is a bel
Speaker 3: ayala oh that was her Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4: But now another case that we had discussed before, same
Speaker 4: kind of thing though, and you have the same age
Speaker 4: range here where Breen was prescribed blockers at twelve, hormones
Speaker 4: at thirteen, double mistectomy at fourteen.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you, you and I have talked a number
Speaker 2: of times about the Cash report again coming out of
Speaker 2: the UK, the UK's National Health Service wreck commended no
Speaker 2: one under eighteen and you've already said this today, no
Speaker 2: one under eighteen get hormone drugs and that quote great
Speaker 2: caution should be exercised with patients under twenty five. Experts
Speaker 2: in parentheses, experts are still pushing not just hormones, but
Speaker 2: surgery for kids experiencing gender dysphoria. Do you see anything
Speaker 2: in the works James Bogan on the lines of the
Speaker 2: Cast report from the UK in this country. I mean
Speaker 2: people are aware of the problem, but anything similar to
Speaker 2: the Cash report being worked on here.
Speaker 4: It's going to take laws to do it. Because the
Speaker 4: medical those medical groups, they are determined not to clean
Speaker 4: up their own act. I mean the American Academy of
Speaker 4: Pediatrics as being the one of the big culprits. I
Speaker 4: mean they sit there and push every left wing cause
Speaker 4: they can, right. I mean, they push this sex changes
Speaker 4: on kids stuff, They push gun control, Obamacare, they push
Speaker 4: vaccine mandates, mask mandates, closing schools during COVID. It was
Speaker 4: just like any kind of far left thing they can
Speaker 4: latch onto they do. They're so politicized. That's where you
Speaker 4: need laws being passed. But hey, doctors, you're not going
Speaker 4: to clean up your own house. We're going to do
Speaker 4: it for you.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, I mean that's the way it's gotta be.
Speaker 2: They obviously are more not all, but many doctors in
Speaker 2: this situation are more concerned about their political beliefs than
Speaker 2: they are the health and safety of a young person,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean sometimes I'm accused of thinking too basically,
Speaker 2: but it's God made you one or the other, you know,
Speaker 2: and all this stuff that trying to change it because
Speaker 2: somebody feels bad or they think they might commit suicide.
Speaker 2: Now you correct me if I'm wrong, James. Those suicide
Speaker 2: claims are way way overblown, are they not?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 4: Yeah? There you just by the cast report. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: you know the thing is, I don't care if an
Speaker 4: adult wants to do it, if they, you know, go
Speaker 4: through the whole long process that you know I mentioned
Speaker 4: the top of this segment. But when you push kids
Speaker 4: into it and make them make permanent decisions before their
Speaker 4: brains are fully developed and fast tracked, and that too,
Speaker 4: I mean what I mean, how do alarm bells not
Speaker 4: go off with a normal person? The thing with doctors
Speaker 4: who do have reservations about this, they're afraid to speak
Speaker 4: out because they don't want to be ostracized professionally.
Speaker 3: Yep, and you know you would.
Speaker 2: Well, there are obviously, and you've discovered them, some in
Speaker 2: the medical profession who understand that this whole deal, this
Speaker 2: whole procedure is fraught with problems. And are those doctors
Speaker 2: speaking up because a lot of times people with a
Speaker 2: more concern of an event if they happen to be
Speaker 2: in a liberal profession, they're they're kind of they're reluctant
Speaker 2: to come forward. Are you seeing, at least in the
Speaker 2: United States, more doctors coming forward and saying and psychologists saying, hey,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, people, this is bad news.
Speaker 3: We shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 4: You're starting to see it come out.
Speaker 9: It doesn't seem.
Speaker 4: Overwhelming right now. I mean, of course, I wonder how
Speaker 4: much of that is from the media, you know, keeping
Speaker 4: that trying to keep that the lid on that, you know,
Speaker 4: how they keep the lid on everything that's not liberal.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're starting to see that. And I think
Speaker 4: this whole this, this whole stuff about kids sex changes
Speaker 4: is probably one of the things that caused the Democrats
Speaker 4: to lose so badly in twenty twenty ten. That was
Speaker 4: the silent that was the silent majority stepping up.
Speaker 3: Yep, you're right, and the same thing.
Speaker 2: And you've researched and spoke extensively about men in women's sports.
Speaker 3: An eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 2: I mean, if eighty percent of the country opposes that,
Speaker 2: why are we still dealing with I guess I'll just
Speaker 2: have to ask that rhetorically.
Speaker 4: Hey see, Igury Tower Liberals.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, before we go, I want you to tell everyone
Speaker 2: about your podcast, what it's about, and where they can
Speaker 2: hear it.
Speaker 9: It's past the clock.
Speaker 4: You can hear out on iHeart, Apple and Spotify. It
Speaker 4: generally comes out bi weekly, and I discuss, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of the same kinds of topics that I
Speaker 4: do on the radio. I also but for my last
Speaker 4: two segments, I decided to focus on fun topics because
Speaker 4: the holiday season of pro wrestling in the gym and
Speaker 4: the fitness for beginners. But you can find an Apple,
Speaker 4: I iHeart and Spotify and and you know it's it's
Speaker 4: something that's I've been learning a lot doing it.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I've listened to it. It's a great podcast.
Speaker 2: I would recommend it. James, thanks so much for sharing
Speaker 2: your time on New Year's Day. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mike always a privileged Happy New Year, and
Speaker 4: congratulations on your grandag Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, James. I appreciate that. All right, that
Speaker 2: was James Bogan, you know what I mean. I'm glad
Speaker 2: he's staying on this subject and he has for a
Speaker 2: long time and hopefully, hopefully it's turning around. Hey, we
Speaker 2: got to take a break. Button we get back. Let's
Speaker 2: go back to the phone. Seven point nine, seven thousand, one,
Speaker 2: eight hundred. The big one are the numbers, and you
Speaker 2: can talk about anything you want, but we'll be back
Speaker 2: in just a little bit. Mike Allen Saturday, excuse me,
Speaker 2: in for Sloaney, seven hundred WLW. They were back Mike
Speaker 2: Allen in for Sloaney on New Year's Day, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Be back tomorrow as well for Sloaney, and then of
Speaker 2: course Saturday morning for Saturday midday. You know, we're taking
Speaker 2: a look back at the year twenty twenty five, any
Speaker 2: number of classifications. I guess you could say sports, news, politics.
Speaker 2: Wanted to look at music, and I think maybe a
Speaker 2: good way to do that would be to see the
Speaker 2: inductees in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And it's interesting. It's an interesting class
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of you have ever been
Speaker 2: up to see that in Cleveland. My goodness, for me,
Speaker 2: it's probably been ten fifteen years. But it is something else,
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's probably even better now, if you
Speaker 2: want to go up there, if you do that, just plan.
Speaker 2: If you want to look at all of it and
Speaker 2: do it right, takes you at least a day to
Speaker 2: do it. But if you are a rock and roll fan,
Speaker 2: it is really interesting. However, the people that they admit
Speaker 2: into it many times, in my opinion at least, don't
Speaker 2: have anything to do with rock and roll. I guess
Speaker 2: the deal is. I mean, they've been around for a
Speaker 2: long long time, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Maybe they run out of people.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, here are the people and groups that were
Speaker 2: voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and
Speaker 2: were inducted.
Speaker 3: I think it was in November, all right.
Speaker 2: Number One Outcast American rap duo that began in the
Speaker 2: nineteen nineties Key Songs, Hey Yeah, Ms Jackson and Roses.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I've heard of Outcast. I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you anything about them.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've probably heard some of their stuff, not knowing that
Speaker 2: I've heard it, but and obviously they're good at what
Speaker 2: they do. But I just I don't know what it
Speaker 2: has to do with rock and roll. Okay, here's one
Speaker 2: you don't have to ask if this group is about
Speaker 2: rock and roll. It is Bad Company, It's a British
Speaker 2: rock band. It was formed, Oh jeez, I think like
Speaker 2: in the mid eighties some huge, huge hits feel like
Speaker 2: Making Love, Can't Get Enough and Bad Company, and I
Speaker 2: think they're still touring. They were inducted by Mick Fleetwood.
Speaker 2: Bad Company drummer Simon Kirk was joined by Nancy Wilson
Speaker 2: of Heart and Joe Perry of Aerosmith on guitars, and
Speaker 2: The Black Crows lead singer Chris Robinson was on vocal.
Speaker 3: Here's another one. And I heard somebody this morning.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was talking about this Cindy
Speaker 2: Lauper who you know. I mean, she's pleasant. I like her,
Speaker 2: arguably not real rock and roll, but she was inducted.
Speaker 2: Her solo career began in the early eighties key songs
Speaker 2: girls just want to have Fun, time after time, true colors,
Speaker 2: remember all three of those songs. She was inducted by
Speaker 2: Chappelle Rohan ro o An not familiar with that person.
Speaker 2: She performed a edley of her hits, including duets with
Speaker 2: Avril Levine, Ray and Say That Again, Dave for Me
Speaker 2: Avril Levine. See I told you man, if it wasn't, Oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, let's move on here.
Speaker 3: Soundgarden again. Not too sure about them.
Speaker 2: Don't know who they are, American rock band formed in
Speaker 2: eighty four. Key songs black Hole, sun Fell on Black Days,
Speaker 2: and Outshined. Don't know anything about them. They were inducted
Speaker 2: by Jim Carrey, who is a big time ignorant liberal.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, but that's just my opinion. And then Salt
Speaker 2: and Peppa. It's a rap group from the eighties. They
Speaker 2: had some hits, but once again, don't know how it
Speaker 2: relates to rock and rolling. Hey, you know, I'm definitely
Speaker 2: into an up four being corrected or explained to on
Speaker 2: all of this. If you want to Chubby Checker, here
Speaker 2: we are. Now, We're where we need to be with
Speaker 2: respect to rock and roll. Of course, he released records
Speaker 2: in the fifties. The big ones were the Twist, Let's
Speaker 2: Twist again like we did last Summer and Limbo Rock,
Speaker 2: and up until a few years ago he was still
Speaker 2: touring and mad. He was still belting it out too,
Speaker 2: and really, I mean, you know you can argue that, hey,
Speaker 2: he's not on the level with you know, Chuck Berry,
Speaker 2: Cherry Lee, Lewis, Elvison most people, but had a big
Speaker 2: influence on rock and roll. And you know he he
Speaker 2: introduced people to the Twist, which was a big, big deal.
Speaker 2: Now there's a little bit of a local connection here.
Speaker 2: There was a fellow that recorded the Twist before he did,
Speaker 2: Hank Ballard, and I think he recorded that in the
Speaker 2: studios out there in Evanston King King Records, and it
Speaker 2: was good. Frankly, I like his version better than Chubby Checkers.
Speaker 2: They're pretty close though, But anyway, he didn't Hank Bauer
Speaker 2: didn't do real well with it. Chubby Checker did. He
Speaker 2: made a career out of it, but just kind of
Speaker 2: an interesting thing. Okay, rock and roll all the way here.
Speaker 2: Joe Cocker release records in the sixties. Died in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: You Are So Beautiful, which was really kind of out
Speaker 2: of his style, but he did a good job with
Speaker 2: it up where we belong and with a little help
Speaker 2: for my Friend's Beatles song, I think that was probably
Speaker 2: his biggest hit, so very appropriate in my humble opinion.
Speaker 2: The next group is the White Stripes. Again, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about them.
Speaker 3: What did they do?
Speaker 7: Dave?
Speaker 3: Help me?
Speaker 2: Okay, he's gonna find something for me. They began in
Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties key song seven Nation Army, We're.
Speaker 3: Going to be here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I recognize him right out the bag said,
Speaker 2: if you watch Ohio State games, you know this song.
Speaker 2: That's probably where I know it from. All Right, thanks
Speaker 2: for the assist on that, Dave, I really I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Warren Zevon. Now, this guy's way kind of out there,
Speaker 2: but I like his stuff. He's a singer songwriter American.
Speaker 2: He began releasing solo records in the early seventies. He
Speaker 2: died in two thousand and three. Key Songs. This one's
Speaker 2: right up my alley. Key Songs, Lawyers, Guns and Money.
Speaker 2: But my favorite is it's just a really goofy song
Speaker 2: that I think is cool, The Werewolves of London really
Speaker 2: a weird but really kind of a cool song. I
Speaker 2: think he was inducted by another big time lib David Letterman,
Speaker 2: who's got the Santa Claus beard. Now, okay, here's the
Speaker 2: last one, and this one I think is extremely appropriate.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say the name, and I'll bet
Speaker 2: you most of you won't even recognize it. Carol Kay Kaye,
Speaker 2: not Carol King. Carol kay She was a session musician,
Speaker 2: obviously a woman. She played on all kinds of rock
Speaker 2: hits and I think some Sinatra Perry Como stuff. She
Speaker 2: was a part of a thing called the Wrecking Crew,
Speaker 2: like the Beach Boys. For example, she was on Good Vibrations.
Speaker 2: The Beach Boys. They were known for their harmonies. Of course,
Speaker 2: Brian Wilson a musical genius in my humble opinion, on
Speaker 2: the lines of Mozart and Beethoven. However, they weren't the
Speaker 2: best on their instruments, although let's see, probably I would
Speaker 2: say Carl Wilson was pretty good guitar player. But anyway,
Speaker 2: they used a lot of these groups. Beach Boys are one.
Speaker 2: When they made it big, they'd get in the studio,
Speaker 2: they'd do the vocals, and then the Wrecking Crew, who
Speaker 2: Carol kay was a part of, they would do the
Speaker 2: instruments and it came out real good. Anyway, Her key
Speaker 2: song's Good Vibrations, which arguably least one or two top
Speaker 2: two rock and roll hits of all time. Nancy Sinatra,
Speaker 2: these boots were way made for walking well, I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you what.
Speaker 2: I had a thing for her when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: and Barbara streisand's the way we were. So anyway, that's
Speaker 2: your twenty twenty five class in the Rock and Roll
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Some had scratchers there for me, maybe
Speaker 2: not for you guys. You know, Well, we'll see who
Speaker 2: gets in next year. Hey, let's take a break and
Speaker 2: we'll come back. Oh, we got some calls here. We'll
Speaker 2: come back with calls. Mike Allen in for Sloaney seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: What two three.
Speaker 3: Because he loved so Oh my sir, Hey, we're back.
Speaker 2: We are back with Outcast, one of the inductees in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Hall of Fame class. And I
Speaker 2: do recognize that song. No, I've heard it a few times. Hey,
Speaker 2: A lot of people want to talk about this, so
Speaker 2: we are going to do so. But I just wanted
Speaker 2: to give you an idea. First nineteen eighty six, the
Speaker 2: first class listening to these legends, Chuck Berry, James Brown, Ray, Charles,
Speaker 2: Sam Cook, Fats Domino, Phil and Don, the Everly Brothers,
Speaker 2: Buddy Holly, Jered, Lee Lewis, Little Richard Boy. There's two
Speaker 2: wild men right there. The King Elvis Presley, the Coasters,
Speaker 2: Eddie Cochran. Boy he was a badass back in the day.
Speaker 2: Bo Diddley, who's got his own beat, and boy he
Speaker 2: was still performing I think up until a few years back.
Speaker 2: Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gabe, Bill Haley, of course Bill Haley
Speaker 2: in the comments, early early rocker, and BB King. So
Speaker 2: I'm sure as the years went by, you know, they
Speaker 2: ran out of the people that started rock and roll. So,
Speaker 2: you know, I have to admit my my tastes are
Speaker 2: not as everyone's are, but it is what it is. Hey,
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Let's talk to Eric in col Raine. Hey,
Speaker 2: good morning Eric.
Speaker 11: Hey, good morning Mike. Happy New year too.
Speaker 3: You too, man, what you got.
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 12: Yeah, so you know a little a little younger than
Speaker 12: you So yeah, all those people you're listed, uh listing
Speaker 12: off there, you know, definitely grew up with a lot
Speaker 12: of that.
Speaker 11: Sure, especially with with with Outcast.
Speaker 12: Now, I know it's rock and roll Hall of Fame,
Speaker 12: and but we should have looked at rock and roll
Speaker 12: as just one thing.
Speaker 11: You know, it's kind of more like a music hall
Speaker 11: of fame.
Speaker 12: True, with Outcast and uh, you know the style of
Speaker 12: rap and hip hop that they made, especially in like
Speaker 12: the mid to late nineties or two thousands, because really
Speaker 12: that hey Ya song was I mean they've been out
Speaker 12: for ten to fifteen years before that song Kit came
Speaker 12: out and really them again, you know yeah, and uh,
Speaker 12: you know a lot of their early stuff and what's
Speaker 12: great about and what I like about it is.
Speaker 11: That, you know, the the lyrics, the message uh in
Speaker 11: their music.
Speaker 12: It's not like the mainstream hip hop and rap that
Speaker 12: we get these days, where it's like if you're not
Speaker 12: talking about killing somebody, if you're not talking about degrading
Speaker 12: women or doing drugs, you know, like you're never gonna.
Speaker 11: Get any plays.
Speaker 12: And they really kind of talked about the struggle of
Speaker 12: you know, growing up in Atlanta, being around that environment,
Speaker 12: but you know, elevating themselves to get out of it
Speaker 12: and kind of putting.
Speaker 11: More of like a real life.
Speaker 12: You know, you know, right like with Miss Jackson, you know,
Speaker 12: having a kid when you're young and you're in you know,
Speaker 12: your your baby's mama's mama is upset with you, thinks
Speaker 12: you're a bad person, just you know, and just kind
Speaker 12: of putting those emotions and those things out there. Uh,
Speaker 12: you know that everyday stuff that that people go through,
Speaker 12: you know, right. So yeah, so I think they're definitely
Speaker 12: rightfully deserved to be up there. Andre three thousand and
Speaker 12: big Boy.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 11: Some of the best lyricists. Uh. If you ever want to.
Speaker 12: Go down that rabbit hole of out cast music, you
Speaker 12: start off with Southern playlistic Cadillac music and just kind
Speaker 12: of go from there. And and yeah, just just give
Speaker 12: them a listen. They got a nice funk to them,
Speaker 12: like like the music is funky, uh to go with
Speaker 12: the hip hop and everything. So yeah, I think they
Speaker 12: definitely deserve those flowers.
Speaker 2: You know, great, great call, Eric, I appreciate it, and
Speaker 2: I did recognize that tune right off the bat, but hey,
Speaker 2: thanks for weighing in. I really appreciate it. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: talk to Let's talk to Dan in Chevois, Ohio. He
Speaker 2: wants to talk about Sound Garden. Good morning, Dan, what
Speaker 2: you got.
Speaker 10: Well, my favorite out of that list is Warren Zevon.
Speaker 10: But yeah, they're that like early like that grunge like
Speaker 10: Nirvana types sound with the distorted like glow grunty voice,
Speaker 10: you know.
Speaker 3: Talking about right right?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Black Hole song has this part where he
Speaker 10: goes like a distorted voice right while. I saw Peter
Speaker 10: Frampton at the Blue Ash Fireworks and he covered it
Speaker 10: and that little palp talk fox voice that he like
Speaker 10: did with his do you feel like we do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like he.
Speaker 10: Covered this grunge song as his exit, as his encore.
Speaker 10: You know he did like the he did like his
Speaker 10: voicebox with like that nineties grunge.
Speaker 2: Is that what they called out? They call out a voicebox.
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you mean with him and the
Speaker 2: Blue Ash show. It's it's uh, it's a pretty big thing.
Speaker 2: But man, you think about it, that guy Frampton, I mean,
Speaker 2: he was on top of the world. I guess it
Speaker 2: was late seventies, early eighties. I think he had close
Speaker 2: to the biggest seller of all time, at least the album.
Speaker 3: And the women loved him. He was a good looking
Speaker 3: guy and every and.
Speaker 2: For a while he married a Cincinnati girl, lived out
Speaker 2: in Indian Hill. I don't think he does it no more.
Speaker 10: But not anymore.
Speaker 6: But yeah, he liked it so much.
Speaker 10: He covered it and he did a great job at it.
Speaker 10: And you probably know some Soundgarden if you heard it,
Speaker 10: it's the same same deal. I'm gonna shout out to
Speaker 10: Warren Zevon. My favorite Warren Zevon song is the actually
Speaker 10: a country song called hard X Spoken here and he
Speaker 10: has Dwight Yoak come as his backup vocals on it.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm gonna check that out. Hey, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I love Warren Zevon. Yeah, I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna hear some sound right.
Speaker 3: You know, Dave.
Speaker 2: That sounds a little bit like led Zeppelin to me.
Speaker 2: And this is sound guard.
Speaker 3: What's the name of it? Spoon Man?
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much, David. Let's see we
Speaker 2: got time for at least one more. How about Mike
Speaker 2: in West Lafayette. Hey, how you doing, Mike? What you
Speaker 2: got for him?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 11: Hey, good Mike. Hey, I'm a big fan of the
Speaker 11: band Fish. pH h.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 11: When they when they nominated all the guy the bands
Speaker 11: for this year, Fish ended up with fifty thousand more
Speaker 11: votes than Bad Company and whoever the Tough was, and
Speaker 11: they didn't get in. Yeah, really I'm amazed. I mean
Speaker 11: I saw him. I haven't been to too many shows
Speaker 11: outside Indiana, but we saw him in New York. They
Speaker 11: did thirteen shows in a row at Madison Square Garden
Speaker 11: in seventeen and they just finished four nights, four shows,
Speaker 11: all sold out at they do Madison Square Garden so
Speaker 11: every Christmas.
Speaker 2: So you're saying, you're saying they were up for it
Speaker 2: and didn't get in, And it brings up a good question.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, how are what is the vote? Who votes?
Speaker 3: And who decides?
Speaker 11: If you know I voted, I mean I've voted several times.
Speaker 11: There's nothing there. He said, you said that you couldn't
Speaker 11: vote more than once, and they have a huge following,
Speaker 11: and I'm absolutely certain that people voted many times. I'm
Speaker 11: sure they've voted many times for all the ones that won. Right,
Speaker 11: And these guys are Libs and they're from Vermont, and
Speaker 11: they're very they're very musical, and uh, I mean, there's
Speaker 11: so much talent there and I'm still just really upset
Speaker 11: that if they didn't get in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds next year.
Speaker 3: But it sounds like some polity.
Speaker 6: He let me.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, Mike, if they don't get in
Speaker 2: next year and there's cheating going on, I'll come out
Speaker 2: of retirement and we will file a suit, lawsuit. How's
Speaker 2: that sound they are going in? Okay? Okay, I thought
Speaker 2: you said they didn't make it in.
Speaker 11: They didn't last I knew they didn't.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm being I'm being told. I'm being told. I'm
Speaker 2: being told that they are. We will check it out.
Speaker 2: We will check it out. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 11: All right, they were nominated.
Speaker 2: I know, Okay, thanks, all right, I'll go with Big Dave.
Speaker 2: He said that they are in. Hey, just to look
Speaker 2: at some of the other classes we did eighty six.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm doing these old ones because they are
Speaker 2: people that I recognize. Wait, man, eighty seven. I didn't
Speaker 2: let many in at all. Clyde mcpatter, course of the Platters.
Speaker 2: H Rick Nelson, who I happen to believe is one
Speaker 2: of the most underappreciated people in rock history, had all
Speaker 2: those huge hits. He was a pretty boy uh back
Speaker 2: in the fifties, but bounced back big time in the
Speaker 2: late sixties with a song called Garden Party that he
Speaker 2: wrote himself then then and nobody listened to it, but
Speaker 2: it was good stuff country rock.
Speaker 3: He got involved in country rock long.
Speaker 2: Before some of the Eagles and some other ones did so. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he got in Roy Orbison, Wow, I mean, you can't
Speaker 2: say enough about him. Carl Perkins Smokey Robinson, Big Joe Turner,
Speaker 2: Muddy Waters oh Man, and Jackie Wilson, great great great
Speaker 2: singer tragically died on stage. I forget what year. And
Speaker 2: Elvis Presley was a good friend to his and Elvis helped.
Speaker 2: He was in a coma for a long time. Elvis
Speaker 2: helped with his medical bills. Last one I get to
Speaker 2: talk about. I wish I could talk more. My favorite group,
Speaker 2: the Beach Boys, the only group with number one hits
Speaker 2: in five separate decades. Hey, we got to take a break.
Speaker 2: But when we come back, we're playing politics and we
Speaker 2: are going to do that with Kevin Burton. We'll do
Speaker 2: that when we get back. Mike Allen Infra Sloane seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Do want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: There's radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for Sloany
Speaker 2: today and tomorrow. Well, I've been looking forward to this
Speaker 2: all day. We did something similar to this yesterday. Kevin
Speaker 2: Burton is an independent political analyst and political operative. If
Speaker 2: you will, kind of a hired gun. You'll work for
Speaker 2: either one, and boy, you need that, I mean you
Speaker 2: do to get some perspective. But what we have today
Speaker 2: is the twenty twenty five End of Year Political Awards.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much Kevin for being a part of this.
Speaker 9: Thank you for having me. And Happy New Years everyone.
Speaker 2: You too, You too? Okay, we're both going to participate
Speaker 2: in this one. You know what I think we can do, Kevin,
Speaker 2: We'll alternate as to who goes first.
Speaker 3: The award for Winner of the Year. Who do you have,
Speaker 3: Kevin Burton?
Speaker 9: Are we doing national or local?
Speaker 2: I did national, you can do local, do it, you know,
Speaker 2: whatever you want.
Speaker 13: I actually have a hot take here. I'm actually gonna
Speaker 13: say aftab the mayor. For all the negativity that everything happened,
Speaker 13: he still got eighty percent of the vote. He got
Speaker 13: all nine of his council elected. They just showed that
Speaker 13: everything was chatter and that he has a political machine.
Speaker 13: So for all the noise and everything, he came out
Speaker 13: stronger today.
Speaker 9: Than he was twelve months ago.
Speaker 2: You know, I have to reluctantly agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was the results were pretty stunning. You've
Speaker 2: been around long enough, Kevin that you don't really rack
Speaker 2: up those kind of numbers, but he did. I get it,
Speaker 2: and you know, I get reluctantly have to kind of
Speaker 2: agree with you on that. You know, he got everything
Speaker 2: but the kitchen sink thrown at him and still did
Speaker 2: pretty darn good for me. I went national on this,
Speaker 2: and nobody will be surprised. Donald Trump the winner of
Speaker 2: the year for obvious reasons. He took office this year
Speaker 2: the most remarkable political comeback in political history, even rival
Speaker 2: rival ring if I don't know how to say it,
Speaker 2: Richard Nixon in nineteen sixty eight. Nobody thought he was
Speaker 2: coming back. He lost to Kennedy, then he lost the
Speaker 2: sixty two governor's election. They had him buried and dead,
Speaker 2: but he came back. But Trump, I mean, you look
Speaker 2: at it. They threw everything but the kitchen sink at him,
Speaker 2: law fair, lawsuits, allegations, everything, and he still won.
Speaker 3: So that's what I think. And what do you think
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 13: I mean, he's still president. There's nothing stopping him as
Speaker 13: of right now.
Speaker 6: And you know, it.
Speaker 13: Seems like ninety percent of the peace deal Zlansky just
Speaker 13: said this morning. And if he gets that, that's a
Speaker 13: huge win for Trump. You know, this all leads right
Speaker 13: into twenty twenty six midterms, which is going to be
Speaker 13: a battle.
Speaker 3: Yep, no question about it.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five was a good year for the Democrats.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 2: Okay, moving right along here, loser of the year, I
Speaker 2: will go first on that. Nah, this one was a
Speaker 2: little bit difficult, but I got Kamala Harris in my
Speaker 2: humble opinion. No business being vice president, she was a
Speaker 2: DEI pick for that even more so, no business being
Speaker 2: president of the United States, no ideas, independent ideas. You know,
Speaker 2: she would not let you know where she stood on
Speaker 2: the issues she thought that would stand up, and not
Speaker 2: able to string a sentence together. So and she's got
Speaker 2: that annoying cackle. So that's my loser of the year.
Speaker 2: How about you, Kevin.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with Andrew Como. Yeah, he lost.
Speaker 13: He lost, not once, but life burned kind of every
Speaker 13: bridge that he ever had built and in a lot
Speaker 13: of ways gave way to the next superstar in politics.
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna go with Andrew Como as the loser
Speaker 9: of the year.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you see him running for any office in
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 13: I mean, he's lost two elections in a row and
Speaker 13: he had to resign from governor. That ship sailed, So
Speaker 13: I think him and his twenty three sexual assault allegations
Speaker 13: are over with.
Speaker 9: Well, I don't think he's coming back.
Speaker 2: There will always be a place on CNN and MSNBC
Speaker 2: now for people like that. Okay, the Worst Week in
Speaker 2: Politics award. You get to go first on this one, Kevin.
Speaker 13: I mean, I think we have to go with what's
Speaker 13: happening right now with Governor Wallas. I think that's been
Speaker 13: the worst week nationally now. I mean, you're looking at
Speaker 13: nine billion possibly fraud. The other one I would go
Speaker 13: with is probably the Doge.
Speaker 9: When that happened. Those are probably the two worst weeks.
Speaker 9: A lot of wasteful spending and just people are like,
Speaker 9: what is going on?
Speaker 2: The only thing and I got the same thing, Tim Wallas.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'd posit with Doge. There is a
Speaker 2: lot of money saved too, but boy Walts, it all
Speaker 2: came crashing down for him just a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: ago and really this week. So I've got him for
Speaker 2: the Worst week ahead. Okay, this one, I like the WTF.
Speaker 2: We all know what that means. WTF moment of the year.
Speaker 2: What makes you? What made you say this can't be real? Okay,
Speaker 2: my turn to go first. My recipient of that award
Speaker 2: is the no one in particular, but that video that
Speaker 2: the Democrats put out, the fighting video where you got
Speaker 2: all these I think it was all women.
Speaker 3: There might have been a thrown in there, you know the.
Speaker 2: Video there they got their fish bawled up and they're
Speaker 2: doing it to music. It was just it was cringe worthy.
Speaker 2: That's my pick for the WTF moment of the year.
Speaker 2: How about you.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with a funny one. I'm gonna go
Speaker 9: with Curtis c While.
Speaker 13: I'm going back to the New York Mayor's race when
Speaker 13: every time he got interviewed, he would just say he
Speaker 13: was shot seven times in the back of his cab.
Speaker 9: It was always a good it was always a good chuckle.
Speaker 9: So that's my Is this real? That's what I would
Speaker 9: go with, curtse c Wall.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You know I follow that stuff and
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that. Okay, this is a good
Speaker 2: one too. The Overexposed Award. What issue or person did
Speaker 2: we hear way too much about in the year twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five? I think it's my turn to go first.
Speaker 2: For me, it's Jimmy Kimmel, who cares about him? And
Speaker 2: really late night talk show hosts in general. I think
Speaker 2: we heard way too much from them. If you go
Speaker 2: back in history, Johnny Carson, the most popular talks late
Speaker 2: night talk show host. You never knew what his politics were.
Speaker 2: He'd hit hit a Democrat. One he basically stayed away
Speaker 2: from politics, but he'd hit a Democrat, and then the
Speaker 2: next night he'd hit a Republican. So I think those
Speaker 2: guys kime on the rest him way way over exposed.
Speaker 3: What say you, Kevin Burton?
Speaker 9: Oh this is this is a good one. Damn, I
Speaker 9: can't think over exposed. I am going to go with
Speaker 9: Thomas Massey, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, he's from Kentucky, and you know about
Speaker 2: Kentucky too.
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with that that,
Speaker 13: you know, for being one of four hundred and thirty five,
Speaker 13: we hear a lot from the congressman.
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna go with Thomas Massey as there exposed Award.
Speaker 2: Okay, when we do a substantive session conversation, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ask you about that race too, because obviously Trump is
Speaker 2: backing his opponent. I like this one too. This is
Speaker 2: kind of a serious one. Under at least I took
Speaker 2: it seriously under the radar winner. I have Marco Rubio,
Speaker 2: Secretary of State. You know, the guy's quiet gets the
Speaker 2: job done. I think he is probably one of the
Speaker 2: few in the Trump administration that even the mainstream media
Speaker 2: seems to leave him alone. He secured the ceasefire in
Speaker 2: the Middle East. He secured increased NATO commitment from their
Speaker 2: wallets the NATO countries other than US, I say, the
Speaker 2: guys under the radar Marco Rubio. Many consider him potential
Speaker 2: candidate for president in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: So that's my pick. How about you?
Speaker 13: This might not be under the race our winner, but
Speaker 13: it's definitely a winner of the year. You have to
Speaker 13: go with Gavin Newsom for the simple fact that twelve
Speaker 13: months ago he was a joking Democratic politics and now
Speaker 13: he has gone to the front runner of being one
Speaker 13: of the nominees.
Speaker 9: For the two major parties.
Speaker 13: So in a twelve month span, he went from he
Speaker 13: looks like the American psycho character to being the only
Speaker 13: person in the Democratic Party he was quote unquote stood
Speaker 13: up to Trump with Prop fifty and things like that.
Speaker 13: He's positioned himself probably the best out of any candidate
Speaker 13: for twenty twenty eight outside of Jadie Vance.
Speaker 3: Now I hear you. I hear you on that.
Speaker 2: Kamala I think at most polls has a ten point
Speaker 2: lead on him, but it's way way, way early. I
Speaker 2: don't agree with anything he says or does, but I
Speaker 2: think you're probably right on that one.
Speaker 3: This one I gotta take a powder on. I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of anything most online, least real life.
Speaker 3: It's a great award, which.
Speaker 2: Debate was bigger on social media than it is in reality.
Speaker 2: I came up with nothing on that, Kevin. I hope
Speaker 2: you ended up with somebody.
Speaker 13: I mean, unfortunately, it was what happened in Cincinnati.
Speaker 9: You talked about this before that.
Speaker 13: You know, there was a lot of chatter, but Democrats
Speaker 13: still swept. There was really no change, and it was
Speaker 13: all who just kind of hearsay.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: Even though I didn't make a pick on that, I
Speaker 2: can't argue with that. Again, as we talked about before,
Speaker 2: it was good old fashioned butt whipping.
Speaker 3: Okay, moving right along here.
Speaker 2: Buzzword of the year a phrase that politicians should retire immediately.
Speaker 3: I think I get to go first.
Speaker 2: I've got more than one on this reimagining. Anytime you
Speaker 2: hear that negative connotations.
Speaker 3: In my humble opinion.
Speaker 2: Triggering same way, privilege, same way, probably the biggest one
Speaker 2: food insecurity. I think we can do without all of
Speaker 2: those phrases. What say you, Kevin, I'm.
Speaker 9: Gonna say the Deafa suit.
Speaker 13: We both parties make it up as they go. No
Speaker 13: party really actually cares.
Speaker 9: The closest we got was Bill Clinton thirty years ago. Yep,
Speaker 9: the deficit.
Speaker 13: Both parties use it as a punchline when they're you know,
Speaker 13: not in the White House.
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna go with the deficit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good one. And you know,
Speaker 2: I know I got a few years on you. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be long after I'm dead and gone, I think.
Speaker 2: But at some point, at some point, we are going
Speaker 2: to have to pay the piper on this one. And
Speaker 2: you know, I worry about my kids and my kids'
Speaker 2: kids on that because it's just it's not sustainable. At
Speaker 2: some point we're gonna have to do something. I like
Speaker 2: this one. Number nine.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you had something to say.
Speaker 9: Oh no, I totally agree. But you know, both both
Speaker 9: parties will use the.
Speaker 13: Checkbook as much as they can, and when it's time
Speaker 13: for the check to be due, they're usually out of office.
Speaker 2: Yep, and there's going to be some pretty severe consequences
Speaker 2: at some point on it. And again it is a
Speaker 2: multi party problem. Okay, this is a good one. Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: Table Band Award. Which topic should be banned from family dinners?
Speaker 2: I think it might be my turn for me. It's
Speaker 2: pretty simple, and then in some ways kind of live
Speaker 2: in it. Any topic that touches on politics, period, period.
Speaker 2: There's enough to discuss at the family dinner table, and
Speaker 2: you can leave politics out of it because nine times
Speaker 2: out of ten somebody's going to be pot What do you.
Speaker 9: Think I'm going to add religion to that? But yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 9: you know, just enjoy.
Speaker 13: Time with your family because you don't know how long
Speaker 13: you got.
Speaker 2: It ain't work, it's just not worth it. Okay. Last,
Speaker 2: but not least, the Looking Ahead Award. What next year
Speaker 2: would what next year will be? Will it be crazier
Speaker 2: or just different than twenty twenty five? Your thoughts?
Speaker 13: I mean, I think it will be crazy because it's midterm,
Speaker 13: but it's also the world we live in.
Speaker 9: Now, so in a lot of ways, kind of the
Speaker 9: status quo.
Speaker 13: But just maybe you know, twenty twenty six edition, so
Speaker 13: you know everyone is going to be riled up. Forty
Speaker 13: nine point nine percent of the people will be mad.
Speaker 6: Yep, it is.
Speaker 9: It's just the way it goes.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I kind of got the same thing.
Speaker 2: I think it'll be just a little different twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, that will be crazy. I mean,
Speaker 2: who knows what you're going to get there and who
Speaker 2: knows who you're going to get there. I think the
Speaker 2: early betting would be on the Republican side. Vice President
Speaker 2: jd Vance seems like he's kind of trying to clear
Speaker 2: the field. Marco Rubio has been mentioned as well. Now,
Speaker 2: I heard something a couple of weeks ago, Kevin. I
Speaker 2: don't know where I heard it, but whatever, whoever or
Speaker 2: wherever it was, it was someone or something with some
Speaker 2: credibility that apparently the Vice President jd Vance and Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio have made a deal that Marco would accept the
Speaker 2: number two spot because he's young enough to at some
Speaker 2: point run for president of the United States. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I do think if I had to
Speaker 2: bet the ranch, it would be jd Vance and probably
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom for the Democrats.
Speaker 3: What do you think, I mean?
Speaker 9: I think if you asked me.
Speaker 13: Today, those would be the two people I would you
Speaker 13: know better coke on and then from there, you know,
Speaker 13: you're you have a fighter's chance of winning. So for Rubio,
Speaker 13: you know, I want to make a lot of sense
Speaker 13: to trying to primary jd Vance. So yeah, that that
Speaker 13: rumor makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And I really do believe what I
Speaker 2: said about Marco Rubio. Man, I was a little bit
Speaker 2: dum sketching my head on the pick itself. But man,
Speaker 2: he's applied himself to that job, doesn't say crazy things.
Speaker 2: Trump really seems to respect him, He doesn't give him
Speaker 2: any grief, and kind of stays out of his way.
Speaker 3: So that will be an interesting year. Okay, one last thing.
Speaker 2: Are we going to have a Republican sweep of the
Speaker 2: statewide offices in Ohio in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 9: Ooh, that is a great question.
Speaker 13: I think I'm actually you know, they hold all of
Speaker 13: them now, it's a blue year.
Speaker 9: I think the Republicans they're going to be well funded.
Speaker 13: I think Governor and maybe some of the down ballots
Speaker 13: like treasure would be the races to watch.
Speaker 9: I'm going to go that.
Speaker 13: I think Republicans out of the we'll lose one, yep, one.
Speaker 9: Of the five. I think Democrats will pick up one.
Speaker 3: It will be interesting. Kevin. I really appreciate your input.
Speaker 3: This was fun.
Speaker 2: If it's okay with you, I'd like to make this
Speaker 2: an annual thing.
Speaker 9: I'm good with that. Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we'll be talking. Thanks again, Kevin, Thanks Mike.
Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin Burton talking about both of us the End
Speaker 2: of the Year Politics Award.
Speaker 3: It's kind of fun.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that young man is keyed in.
Speaker 2: Like I said, on both sides, he mentioned the situation
Speaker 2: with Massey over in Kentucky. I think it was just yesterday,
Speaker 2: the person who's announced that he's running against him in
Speaker 2: the primary, that the president is backing again. I forget
Speaker 2: his name. They're talking about that already. That will be
Speaker 2: a fun one to watch. Hey, we're out of time
Speaker 2: on this segment, but when we get back, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get serious. For the last segment, we're going to talk
Speaker 2: to jud Dunning about Israel and how we need moral
Speaker 2: clarity on that issue. And boy, it's one that I
Speaker 2: feel pretty strongly about. I think jud does as well.
Speaker 2: So we'll do that when we get back Mike allen
Speaker 2: In for Sloaney's seven hundred WLW eleven thirty seven News
Speaker 2: Radio seven hundred WLW Mike allen In for Scott Sloan
Speaker 2: on the first day of twenty twenty six. You know,
Speaker 2: as we head into twenty twenty six under President Trump,
Speaker 2: my next guest writes that we kind of have a
Speaker 2: renewed America where moral clarity matters again. And you know,
Speaker 2: this modern trend of fashionable bandwagon anti Semitism, which I
Speaker 2: do not understand at all where that came from is
Speaker 2: rooted in a dull haze of dangerous historical stupidity. Boy,
Speaker 2: that is true and anti meritocratic delusion.
Speaker 3: Here to talk about it is mister Judd Dunning.
Speaker 2: He is a passionate and proud Los ANGELESO businessman, former
Speaker 2: entertainer and politico since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 3: He's the author of the new Newsmax book.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to get this thirteen and a half
Speaker 2: reasons why not to be a liberal and how to
Speaker 2: enlighten others?
Speaker 3: Here is jud Dunning.
Speaker 2: Jud thank you so much for taking time out of
Speaker 2: your New Year's day to talk to us.
Speaker 7: What a better way to start to do than talking
Speaker 7: about freedom and philosophy, religion, politics in life, a New
Speaker 7: Year's Day, buddy, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: It's my pleasure.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I'll just say right from the get go, I mean,
Speaker 2: I've been around a while, but I do not understand.
Speaker 2: I really don't have an understanding of why in the
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty five now twenty twenty six, we are
Speaker 2: dealing with anti Semitism in the United States of America.
Speaker 3: It absolutely floors me.
Speaker 7: Jud Yeah, it's very interesting, interesting time historically. There's actually
Speaker 7: a lot of information here. And after I wrote this,
Speaker 7: I'd say, one of the top one hundred rabbis in
Speaker 7: the world like called me in.
Speaker 9: The middle of the night, provincial run me.
Speaker 7: So I'm going to talk about that, okay, because it's
Speaker 7: very interesting. So, you know, we look at antha Semitism.
Speaker 7: There's actually two forms, right. There's there's si era perpetuated
Speaker 7: jew hatred, which is what the Arabs have adopted. Actually
Speaker 7: that's just that's that's outright jew Anti Semitism means, you know,
Speaker 7: anti Jewish. But really, if you look at it, where
Speaker 7: did it start? It's it's we're all in this media
Speaker 7: society moving quickly and people are reading things and they're
Speaker 7: trusting what they're thinking, and there's no philosophical deep dive.
Speaker 7: But is where does anti Semitism come from? Because in
Speaker 7: the back in the period of Alexander Alexandria, Jews were
Speaker 7: another group. There were other groups, but there were a
Speaker 7: lot of other groups.
Speaker 9: It wasn't just them.
Speaker 7: They didn't carry the burden of the world through being
Speaker 7: targeted for resentment, hate.
Speaker 9: And the you know, being willed to death.
Speaker 7: But where it came from, and American Christians to know this,
Speaker 7: It actually came from John eight four four you are
Speaker 7: the father of your devil. So it has a long
Speaker 7: history of being reused begainst Jews and weekly you know,
Speaker 7: and and we forget that it was perpetual, perpetuated by John.
Speaker 7: Interesting about the disciples, right, if you really understand Christianity,
Speaker 7: uh Jesus at the time, the disciples, if you take
Speaker 7: a deep dive, like John was the one that was
Speaker 7: Christ is Christ is God, and the other disciples were Jews, Like, hey, I.
Speaker 9: Don't care, He's amazing.
Speaker 7: We didn't have the Sharia laws split over a simple
Speaker 7: you know, a theological theory. They were just glad to
Speaker 7: have him. But John was very aggressive what he put
Speaker 7: out there, you know about about the pasting, and so
Speaker 7: that was that was adopted and used and brutalized and targeted. Now,
Speaker 7: the main thing that people need to.
Speaker 9: Remember, right is did we evolve?
Speaker 7: And and the Church came out nostra tatte right in
Speaker 7: October twenty eighth, nineteen sixty five. Is the Vatican two
Speaker 7: not stunted six sixty two, And this is the Catholics
Speaker 7: came out and said.
Speaker 4: We were wrong.
Speaker 9: We you know, there was a lot going on in
Speaker 9: that era.
Speaker 7: You know, it wasn't simply the Jews that put Christ
Speaker 7: down and then all stuff I can if I.
Speaker 9: Can give you a little.
Speaker 7: Bit more color for for our you know, for people
Speaker 7: that know the Bible, Daniel and Adeta, Daniel and Zeta,
Speaker 7: the prophetic text, well, how many people were claiming to
Speaker 7: be Jesus.
Speaker 6: Of the era?
Speaker 9: Historian studies like.
Speaker 7: Twenty six people know, it was not an easy It
Speaker 7: was not an easy time to go through that, and
Speaker 7: history tends to be beaten up. And then so if
Speaker 7: you go then so that existed, and that really occurred,
Speaker 7: and it was dulled down and America was very theologically dogmatic,
Speaker 7: black and white in the nineteen thirties, you know, but
Speaker 7: Communism was in vogue, and so it was like extreme hardcore,
Speaker 7: you know, tent talk Christianity, a lot of shame, you know,
Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of beauty too, obviously, right, there's.
Speaker 9: Goodness in fighting the dark. But for as we moved.
Speaker 7: Forward and we got to you know, less educated people,
Speaker 7: then we moved forward, we got to you know, the war,
Speaker 7: the Holocaust, the Great Loss, and at that point, right.
Speaker 9: The Jews were put back.
Speaker 7: And then into you know, in nineteen forty eight, into
Speaker 7: Israel at the time. There by the way, there technically
Speaker 7: is no Palestine.
Speaker 9: There never was.
Speaker 7: It was a region like the Rockies, right, These were
Speaker 7: Israeli Arabs and the era. So they went in and
Speaker 7: they wanted to take over and you know, take back Israel.
Speaker 7: And there was a shame in the Islamic world called
Speaker 7: the nakba, and the noakma means catastrophe. So this is
Speaker 7: it's commonly refers to the displaced in dispossession of Palestinians
Speaker 7: in the nineteen forty eight War of Palestine. Right now,
Speaker 7: the old generation saw it as the worst thing. They
Speaker 7: were beat by shopkeepers and tailors that was a shame.
Speaker 7: We were beaten by shop tate keepers and tailors and
Speaker 7: is anti sensets in its own nature. Well, that generation
Speaker 7: is dying. And there's what there's a lot of people
Speaker 7: right now who are signing the Abraham Accords because they're
Speaker 7: you know, resentful older Islamic, Muslim, Islam, Saudi Arabian, et cetera. Grandparents.
Speaker 7: The generation is dying. You have a whole generation is dying,
Speaker 7: dying off. So it's actually a lot of areas in
Speaker 7: that area are calming down. But the the intelligence levels
Speaker 7: and the training from the Nakba forward there they did
Speaker 7: not adopt like biblical anti Semitism. The Middle East adopted
Speaker 7: uh Middle East adopted the Nakba, which is and then
Speaker 7: they adopted Hitler extermination.
Speaker 9: Propaganda and media.
Speaker 7: So if somebody is antisemic today, you have to separate it.
Speaker 7: There was the original and the forgiven right, right, and
Speaker 7: then like we were completely wrong. Pope was very clear
Speaker 7: to the world and at that time and then over
Speaker 7: here you have the Nakba, the catastrophy, and the Hitler extermination,
Speaker 7: jew hatred that is from the Arabs, right, So if
Speaker 7: you look at these sources and then you have this
Speaker 7: other one that David Dennis Frager puts out there, and
Speaker 7: I want to say, there's like a.
Speaker 9: Third point and then I'll come back.
Speaker 7: Sure, so on the on the third, But Dennis Fraker says,
Speaker 7: we are hated because we are great. Well there, if
Speaker 7: you look at the Jews are the chosen people, if
Speaker 7: you actually the Torah, they were chosen to suffer the
Speaker 7: refinement of the Ten Commandments. And this teaching in the
Speaker 7: world Christ comes out and it goes viral for us Christians.
Speaker 9: You know, it's like Jesus.
Speaker 7: Went viral, you know, I mean took Judaism viral. I
Speaker 7: go to both, by the way, I have Jewish kids,
Speaker 7: and I go to the church.
Speaker 9: In both because that's their faith. So I go.
Speaker 7: I went to church and temple straight for twelve years.
Speaker 7: So I understand the theories of all this. So this
Speaker 7: anti Semitism is really a dull stupidity that came up
Speaker 7: after Gaza that was hijacked by the left. Now interesting,
Speaker 7: you know, the clans started by a bunch of Democrats
Speaker 7: and mostly Scottish guys in Tennessee, right, and at some
Speaker 7: point it's up to five million people in the United States.
Speaker 7: We're in this horrible organization.
Speaker 9: Right, and now you have this post gaza.
Speaker 7: You know, liberal empathetic because war is hell.
Speaker 9: You have these people that are like.
Speaker 7: Oh, you know, I hate the Jews. Jews run Hollywood,
Speaker 7: Jews run We'll talk about the Jews running Hollywood. I'm
Speaker 7: gonna rest for a second. When did Stephen When did
Speaker 7: Steven Spielberg start making movies?
Speaker 9: Eight?
Speaker 7: He worked his tail off American exceptionalism.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: You know why were Jews running Hollywood Because they were
Speaker 7: in Vaudeville and the Polish hits Russian borders, and they
Speaker 7: came over at the right time, and they put a
Speaker 7: camera on Vaudeville.
Speaker 9: They were fundamentally here.
Speaker 7: At the intersection. That's why they're influential on holidays. The
Speaker 7: answerdamte Semitism is oh, that's interesting, tell me the facts,
Speaker 7: because if you start targeting people because they're excellent, it's
Speaker 7: not even about that.
Speaker 9: It's either about the knocked.
Speaker 7: But the shame and the hitler like Jew hatred or
Speaker 7: over here it's the Christian, the uneducated Christian christ phills
Speaker 7: John Ate right, and both of them one is dying out,
Speaker 7: the other.
Speaker 9: One has been forgiven.
Speaker 7: But liberals, the Corporatus media system, every ding after God
Speaker 7: that they took God's Have you seen a lot of
Speaker 7: pictures of Russia in Ukraine? No, that war is not
Speaker 7: even being put in our face, even though there's a.
Speaker 9: Lot of horrible loss.
Speaker 5: Stay in a day out.
Speaker 7: Because it said the liberal machine, right, we saw the
Speaker 7: horror of gods and gods.
Speaker 9: It was horrible, but it wasn't.
Speaker 7: It was just as bad as October seventh. And if
Speaker 7: I lived in North Carolina and South Carolina came over
Speaker 7: and did that to my family, there would not be
Speaker 7: a South Carolina, you know.
Speaker 9: And that's that's what happened.
Speaker 7: And so they've weaponized this, I mean, and I gotta
Speaker 7: tell you, like I've done the work to know, and
Speaker 7: Americans have to do the work. Americans that heard this
Speaker 7: this cast or here, you have to do the work
Speaker 7: understand the Nakba and the Hitler like Jew hatred, which
Speaker 7: is extermination of a race, because that's not anti Semitism,
Speaker 7: that's moral inversion, that's killing people for your own agenda,
Speaker 7: does not about the people. It's a projection, right. And
Speaker 7: then over here is the you know, the knakma, that's
Speaker 7: the stuff. And then there's this weaponized people and liberals
Speaker 7: are the people that have run into this. They're using
Speaker 7: they're you know, they're using like they use color, they
Speaker 7: used trams, they used immigrants, They're using people that were
Speaker 7: mostly affected by Gaza, and they stoke this day.
Speaker 2: You know, you know that brings up a question I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you. I mean, you got these kids
Speaker 2: on the college campus. You see them carrying the Palestinian flag,
Speaker 2: you see them carrying anti Semitic messages. I wonder, I mean,
Speaker 2: are these young people being taught anything about the Holocaust?
Speaker 2: Either grade school, high school, probably not a higher ed college.
Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't and you're doing a great job
Speaker 2: of explaining it. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2: I just bought, and I can recommend to you or
Speaker 2: anybody else a book by It's called Hostage by a
Speaker 2: survivor of the recent hostage situation, Eli Sharabi, and what
Speaker 2: they did to those people Hamas is just beyond belief
Speaker 2: and to how can a young person, and this is
Speaker 2: all pretty basic stuff, how can they buy into that?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just hard for me to wrap my
Speaker 3: head around.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, weaponized flip right, you know, there's four way
Speaker 7: I always say this is four ways to attack somebody
Speaker 7: in debate and right, it's like Trump is in vaccism, racism,
Speaker 7: and climatism.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: And then you create shame, and.
Speaker 9: Then you create a dialogue.
Speaker 7: Then you hammer somebody with facts, you flip it over
Speaker 7: and you move quick, and it doesn't matter whether right
Speaker 7: or wrong. And that that's what's happened in media, not
Speaker 7: talk radio like right now, you know TV, you you
Speaker 7: can hammer people pretty quick.
Speaker 9: Radio you people have to think a little bit more.
Speaker 9: But that's that's why I do it.
Speaker 7: That's why I thank you for fighting service to all
Speaker 7: these good Americans. But I think the I think they're
Speaker 7: just it's TikTok mentality, right. I mean you just get
Speaker 7: information and it hits your heart, your emotion manipulated, and
Speaker 7: you flip and scrolls the next thing, you know, get
Speaker 7: back to your latte. And one of the facts, which
Speaker 7: is interesting, I think those are like so October seventh
Speaker 7: was twelve hundred pep on two hundred and fifty hostages and.
Speaker 9: We saw you know, rape, baby, beheading. It was as
Speaker 9: dark as they got.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 7: It was a celebratory execution. And then prior to that,
Speaker 7: the thing other people forget there were more than nineteen
Speaker 7: hundred rockets.
Speaker 9: That's my article prior to that.
Speaker 7: So you know, South Carolina has now lobbed nineteen thousand
Speaker 7: rockets over the marl period of time, not only weeks
Speaker 7: and months. And I've gone over to South Carolina. I'm
Speaker 7: just using an analogy. Those are tuning in.
Speaker 9: I've got over to South Where are the world's moment?
Speaker 7: What is So they've launched nineteen thousand rockets besides October seventh,
Speaker 7: and they've also killed fifty to twenty one civilians have
Speaker 7: been murdered since in the area, and nine and thirty
Speaker 7: four in October seventh. And so if you look at
Speaker 7: the amount of attacks, the amount of and they've also
Speaker 7: tried to make peace, like six or seven times in
Speaker 7: Israel has incivility offered it And they even gave up
Speaker 7: gods at one point, Right, I gave it to them.
Speaker 7: Remember this, Everybody was freaked out. It's like, hey, they
Speaker 7: gave them.
Speaker 2: That area, don't I don't think people realize that, Judge,
Speaker 2: I mean, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 9: Is that interesting? People forget it?
Speaker 7: Like, wait a minute, it's two states, one state solution,
Speaker 7: one stay solution. Well, wait a minute, they gave that
Speaker 7: to them to give them peace, and people like, oh,
Speaker 7: they just gave them some degerent lands.
Speaker 9: That's what do you mean Trump wants it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And all that being said in a serious note,
Speaker 7: So understanding what Anthise semintism is and that you're actually
Speaker 7: adopting g hatred from the Nazis which had nothing to
Speaker 7: do with the Bible really right, it was just you know, weaponized,
Speaker 7: And then you're adopting this rage of shame from the
Speaker 7: Middle East. And then you're deciding as judge and jury
Speaker 7: what it's like for this you know, this people placed
Speaker 7: by the UN, placed by the international after war through
Speaker 7: collective agreement, and you're decide, you know, judging people and
Speaker 7: then making simplest You know, it's interesting too because I
Speaker 7: have a theory and my theory is also partially correct,
Speaker 7: and Dennis talks about it. Why are you Why are
Speaker 7: jew Is pretty exceptional? Why do they stand out? Well,
Speaker 7: one of the Polish Yiddish things was really real. There
Speaker 7: was a sense of humor of vieil was really right there.
Speaker 9: They came over at the right time.
Speaker 7: It's like in America and Los Angeles, Persians are really successful.
Speaker 7: They came over nineteen seventy. I was money after the
Speaker 7: earthquakes at the right time.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: And they had money to move because.
Speaker 7: They were fleeing a democratic regime.
Speaker 9: And they had repressed capital. And they came in here
Speaker 9: when Ali was super cheap.
Speaker 7: And there's some of the greatest owners in the area.
Speaker 7: It's history, it's time. So there's always a reason behind
Speaker 7: the excellence that people look deeper and so anti. My
Speaker 7: article went into anti Semitism and anti excellence, so I was,
Speaker 7: I said, and I quoted in there. You know the
Speaker 7: the likes of the Bible, the ill go to. Sorry,
Speaker 7: we can't close to buy I love it.
Speaker 9: I can't, I can't.
Speaker 3: We only have about two minutes left too. Unfortunately, sure a.
Speaker 9: Great I'll give you this. Nor do people light a.
Speaker 7: Lamp and put it on their basket with on a
Speaker 7: stand and it.
Speaker 9: Gives light to all the house in the same way, let.
Speaker 7: Your light shine before others, so that they may see
Speaker 7: your good works and give glory to your father who
Speaker 7: is in heaven, Matthew. And then Reagan said, I've spoken
Speaker 7: of a.
Speaker 9: Shining city, politic city.
Speaker 7: Built lots stronger the emotions. So the point is is,
Speaker 7: even if.
Speaker 9: There is envy.
Speaker 7: Really, what the American way calls us forward to is
Speaker 7: to celebrate it. And they are really amazing and dynamic people.
Speaker 7: They deserve to be respected. Anti Semitism deserves to be
Speaker 7: shared and understood that it's proper level and it needs
Speaker 7: to be stopped. And it's an honor and pleasure to
Speaker 7: have this American conversation with you today, sir.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I really appreciate it too. I
Speaker 2: mean again, at my age and where I am in life.
Speaker 2: It's the last thing I thought we would be dealing
Speaker 2: with in this country.
Speaker 3: But we are.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, how do people the article
Speaker 2: It's great standing with Israel, moral clarity in an age
Speaker 2: of manufactured confusion, and I'm gonna get my hands on
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half reasons why not to be a
Speaker 2: liberal and how to enlighten others?
Speaker 3: How do people get a copy of that?
Speaker 9: Thank you so much?
Speaker 7: If you my name is jud Dunning, ju d D
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Speaker 7: the fastest way to get into my little universe, and
Speaker 7: you can follow us at Newsmax. I have an article there,
Speaker 7: just juddunning.
Speaker 9: Newsmax and follow our articles there.
Speaker 7: And this one you're going to get through XDO because
Speaker 7: I do long form articles on a word press and
Speaker 7: then you have to do about a thousand words for
Speaker 7: the newspapers.
Speaker 9: So this is the long form one.
Speaker 7: But last point, I am rewriting it because I got
Speaker 7: ripped on by the rabbi.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, jud thank you so much. This has
Speaker 2: been really informative. I appreciate it, and.
Speaker 7: You too, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 9: I have a great day, have you here, everybody?
Speaker 3: You too?
Speaker 2: Thanks jud All Right, man, I'll tell you what kind
Speaker 2: of heavy stuff I guess for New Year's Day, but
Speaker 2: stuff that needs to be said, and you know you
Speaker 2: all are probably sick and tired of me saying it.
Speaker 2: I just don't get it, and Judd has helped somewhat,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. It needs to be stamped out
Speaker 2: Anti Semitism period. All Right, we are out of here.
Speaker 2: I want to thank my excellent producer, Dave Keaton. We'll
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Mike Allen in for Slowe's seven hundred
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