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Speaker 2: Indio News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in four

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Speaker 2: Scott Sloan on New Year's Day, twenty twenty six. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, since I've been working so much, I

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Speaker 2: had a kind of a laid back New Year's last night.

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Speaker 2: Made it through the first quarter of the Ohio State game.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad now that I did fall asleep.

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Speaker 2: Didn't get any better from what I saw the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: It's a darn shame. Ohio State started this season with

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Speaker 2: so much promise and pretty much ends it with two losses.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, that's what happens when you get old.

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Speaker 2: You just don't really hear too much about New Year's

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Speaker 2: Eve anymore. Hey, you know, we had a guy yesterday

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Speaker 2: much fluff here. Well, the big news is, of course,

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Speaker 2: the situation in Minnesota and that broke And I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what. I'm gonna talk about it, but I will say,

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Speaker 2: because this is the first day of twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do a little bit of fluff today too.

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Speaker 2: But interspersed with that, we got some serious stuff. James

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Speaker 2: a situation that has come up with the whole trans

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Speaker 2: surgery and all that and really really sad story. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to James about that at ten o'clock. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to this. Eleven o'clock Kevin Burton. We're gonna be

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Speaker 2: talking about the political stories of the year. We had

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Speaker 2: thing kind of similar to that. I think it was

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Speaker 2: really good. Then at eleven thirty, jud Dunning is he's

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Speaker 2: going to talk about and boy it's good because he's

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Speaker 2: got an ourbed piece about civility and the situation in

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Speaker 2: Israel and how it's a moral kind of comprehension thing,

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Speaker 2: how we are on the right side of that. Jud

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk to him about that. But in

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Speaker 2: the meantime, I want to talk to you about something

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Speaker 2: that broke yesterday, and we've all been talking about it.

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Speaker 2: People have been saying the same thing pretty much that yeah,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota's got their problems, but we perhaps might in Ohio

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Speaker 2: here and finally some things are starting to happen along

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Speaker 2: those lines, but you know, from what I've read so far,

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Speaker 2: it's still kind of an open question as to whether

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Speaker 2: we have a Minnesota situation in Ohio here. The Columbus

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Speaker 2: Dispatch was pretty much all over this. They had an

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Speaker 2: article yesterday, I guess points out that a viral video

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Speaker 2: alleging daycare in Minnesota's Somali community prompted the FBI to respond,

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Speaker 2: and then following that calls for investigations in Ohio. Ohio

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Speaker 2: GOP lawmakers are asking the state to investigate similar unproven

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Speaker 2: claims of frauds circulating on social media about the Columbus

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Speaker 2: area daycares. The Ohio Governor's office states it has a

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Speaker 2: long standing robust anti fraud measures in place for its

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Speaker 2: attendance based public daycare funding system. Didn't get a chance

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Speaker 2: to dive into this thing too much, but that last statement,

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Speaker 2: the Ohio Governor's office having long standing robust anti fraud measures,

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Speaker 2: Ohio having the ows, It looks like that probably is

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Speaker 2: the case. Anyway, what got this role and we played

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Speaker 2: it yesterday. The video It chose a citizen journalist. He

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Speaker 2: visited multiple daycare centers in the Twin cities, which he

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Speaker 2: looking at it further, Ohio is it has the second

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Speaker 2: largest Somali immigrant population in America after after Minnesota. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so the Dispatch, the Columbus Dispatch, they lean left. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anybody would doubt that. They quickly said that

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Speaker 2: him for what he did, going around with a cameraman

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Speaker 2: And it's a forty eight excuse me, forty two minute video.

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Speaker 2: You ought to watch it if you can't, without question,

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Speaker 2: without question, it shows that he shows up at all

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Speaker 2: these daycare centers, no kids, no nobody.

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Speaker 3: And the New York Times spent I don't know, four

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Speaker 2: Pages basically saying how horrible that was, and you know,

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Speaker 2: and maybe it's a little too early to say this.

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Speaker 2: The same may be true for the Columbus Dispatch. I

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Speaker 2: guess we shall see one day this week. It wasn't yesterday,

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Speaker 2: maybe Monday or Tuesday. We're talking about it on the air.

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Speaker 2: I've been in for Sloaney all week, last week and

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Speaker 2: this week too. State Senator Steve Huffman he said he

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Speaker 2: He's state Senator for Ohio District five, Preble County, Dayton

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Speaker 3: And he's pretty.

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Speaker 2: Emphatic that he was hearing too that Ohio may have

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Speaker 3: So I guess we shall see.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know Mike Dwine and he is I

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Speaker 2: guess what you'd call maybe a penny pincher, which is good,

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Speaker 2: keeps a pretty good eye I think on the money

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Speaker 2: being spent in the state of Ohio, not just for

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Speaker 3: But it's it's unfolding.

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Speaker 2: H I spoke with a can't reveal the name, but

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Speaker 2: So we'll make sure that we keep up on this.

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Speaker 2: It's not something obviously that you're gonna let go. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you. I've said it before. I'm sure people are

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Speaker 2: sick of hearing it. This is, without question, the biggest

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Speaker 2: government fraud case that I have ever seen in my lifetime.

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Speaker 2: And I'm no spring chicken, you know. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: And some person, some commentator referred to it, I think

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Speaker 2: very appropriately it is the grift that keeps on giving.

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Speaker 2: And I think, well into the new year, we're going

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Speaker 2: Mike Allen in for Slowne on New Year's Day, seven

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Speaker 2: Allen in for Sloane on New Year's Day, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: We have open lines from nine thirty to ten and

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Speaker 2: then again from ten thirty two eleven. If you want

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Speaker 2: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one hour of

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Speaker 2: one thing I did want to say before we get

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Speaker 2: I am going to be talking to Russ Neville and

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Speaker 2: abominable situation with Cincinnati Police Chief Tarifa Fiji.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you probably heard already, we're running it on.

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Speaker 2: Our news cast that city of Cincinnati is going to

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Speaker 3: They hired a law firm.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's Frost Brown Todd, which is a great

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Speaker 2: would seem to me they hired this law firm pretty

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Speaker 2: It is an absolute travesty, one of the biggest travesties

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Speaker 2: we'll be talking Saturday, not sure what time yet with

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Speaker 2: going to do a deep a dive into that as possible,

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Speaker 2: because again, what has happened to her is just not

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Speaker 2: only to the city administration, don't want her back, she's

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Speaker 2: going to be reaping a whirlwind, if you will, in

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Speaker 2: a settlement against the city. And the city's already I

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Speaker 2: forty years. But we didn't do it anyway, but Fox News,

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Speaker 2: thank god for Fox News. They have the ten medium

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Speaker 2: moments and controversies that defined twenty twenty ten media moments

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Speaker 2: CNN committed defamation against navy veteran. Settlement reached on punitive damages.

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Speaker 2: US Navy veteran Zachary Young and was responsible for punitive

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Speaker 2: Course you all know him, probably one of the most

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Speaker 2: any rate. Overall though, he's pretty biased journalist. But getting

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Speaker 2: that punitive damages were warranted against CNN. And again, this

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Speaker 2: Jerry Foreman later told Fox News Digital they were prepared

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Speaker 3: This is what CNN says.

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Speaker 5: Year, Fred, Well, happy New Year. You do a fantastic

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Speaker 3: I mean, it probably should be changed at some point.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we had a federal trial down here

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Speaker 2: against a former Cincinnati City council member TG Sittenfeld PG

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Speaker 2: sitting Feld who got convicted on it, but he was

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Speaker 2: pardoned by the president.

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Speaker 5: Well there's you're completely right in that. You know, some

443
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Speaker 5: of that could just be legitimate, you know, politicking, But

444
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: you don't come in like elon Omar, into a position

445
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Speaker 5: in government.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, where you're worth you.

447
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 5: Know, forty to fifty thousand dollars and in less than

448
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: a year. You're worth thirty million. That just doesn't happen

449
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Speaker 5: without a really good story.

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Speaker 3: You're so right, You're so right.

451
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Speaker 2: And the FBI is on the ground there now, as

452
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Speaker 2: I understand it, in force with all their investigatory tools.

453
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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, if anyone's going

454
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Speaker 2: to get popped criminally up there, I'd put her at

455
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Speaker 2: the top of the list, followed closely behind the boob

456
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Speaker 2: governor they.

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Speaker 3: Have up there.

458
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Speaker 2: But yeah, well, and to look at Nancy Pelosi too,

459
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Speaker 2: I mean, how many millions of dollars did she make

460
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Speaker 2: while she was in office and she doesn't have any other.

461
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Speaker 5: Job, right, hundreds of millions, And she and her trades

462
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 5: have outpaced every single professional investor that.

463
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Speaker 6: Is that is in the market's She.

464
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Speaker 5: Is, without question, the best investor ever in the country.

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Speaker 5: It's ludicrous. And the same thing with the you know,

466
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Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green. You know, she goes up there, she's, oh,

467
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Speaker 5: I'm a Trump supporter and everything else, and she's, you know,

468
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Speaker 5: worth seventy five eighty thousand dollars and five years later

469
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Speaker 5: she's worth twenty five millions. Yeah, I mean, come on,

470
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Speaker 5: and there's no way to hide those things. All we

471
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Speaker 5: have to do is be serious about looking into it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you've been fighting crime forever. You know that

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Speaker 5: you cannot hide a thirty million dollar wealth in there

474
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Speaker 5: without some.

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Speaker 6: Strings going somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you're so right about that.

477
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Speaker 2: And like I said a million times this week, I

478
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Speaker 2: think we're at the tip of the iceberg on this thing,

479
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Speaker 2: not only in Minnesota but all over the country.

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Speaker 3: Just the abject waste of our money.

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Speaker 2: And this is what happens, in my opinion, when you

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Speaker 2: put these people in charge, Liberal Democrats, this is what

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Speaker 2: is going to happen.

484
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Speaker 3: And we're all feeling it now.

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Speaker 5: Well, what I saw behind the scenes and working with

486
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Speaker 5: these people is that this is an orchestrated effort. In

487
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Speaker 5: my venue in Cincinnati, on stage, I had the head

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Speaker 5: of the Democrat Party from Colorado and he spoke and

489
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Speaker 5: in detail talked about how they destroyed the career of

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Speaker 5: Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, you know, the first State of

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Speaker 5: American senator in history. And they talked about how they

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Speaker 5: discovered a low level employee working for him who was

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Speaker 5: involved in a nasty divorce, had given a couple of

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Speaker 5: bonuses to people that worked for her. They cashed the

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Speaker 5: checks and kicked it back to her to pay her

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Speaker 5: divorce lawyer. The senator had nothing to do with it,

497
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Speaker 5: no knowledge of it or whatever, but he laid out

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Speaker 5: on my stage and I had to listen to it.

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Speaker 5: I did record it. How they took that, contacted a

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Speaker 5: friend in the Justice Department to develop this into a

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Speaker 5: crime and an investigation of the senator, and they ended

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Speaker 5: up ending his career, knowingly ending his career on what

503
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Speaker 5: they started out from as a lie.

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Speaker 6: And they knew it.

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Speaker 5: He was bragging about it and teaching those people in

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati how to do the same thing. The first thing

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Speaker 5: you do is opposition research.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's pretty much par for their course. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. This has been a great call, Fred,

510
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Speaker 2: but I do have to move on. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for sharing that.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, the man sounds like he knows what he's

515
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Speaker 2: talking about. And his voice too. I know that kind

516
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Speaker 2: of indicates to me that he's been in journalism, TV,

517
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Speaker 2: radio or whatever at some point. That's just a guess

518
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Speaker 2: on my part. Hey, let's talk to Rick. He's in Dallas. Hey, Rick,

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Speaker 2: how you doing.

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Speaker 6: First?

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Speaker 3: Thing the New Year, Thank you, sir, you too, you too, you.

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Speaker 8: Yours for uh for st I have a couple subjects,

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Speaker 8: but for openers, Uh was mister Larry Householder? Was he

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Speaker 8: a Democratic Republican Republican?

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Speaker 6: Wasn't he?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, exactly, and.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and he ripped all was the sixty big one,

528
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Speaker 8: big big one.

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Speaker 9: It was huge.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was you.

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Speaker 2: And he's in prison and he's going to be sitting

532
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Speaker 2: there for many many years to come. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: that was the That was the shall I say, ballsiest

534
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: move that I've ever seen, and it just blew up

535
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Speaker 2: in his face.

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Speaker 3: And you know, somebody like that. I don't have a

537
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Speaker 3: sympathy for him.

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Speaker 8: But the guy never quits. He's still appeal with that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, everybody is just as clear as black white here.

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Speaker 3: No, And it was I agree, it was. It was

541
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Speaker 3: a strong conviction.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I mean people, especially at that level,

543
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: they appeal just as a matter of course, and you know,

544
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: good defense attorneys and I don't know who represented him.

545
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming he had good counsel.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They just try to pick it apart. But I don't

548
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: see that thing getting overturned on appeal. I really don't

549
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Speaker 2: just the bla the blatantness of it, the brazenness of

550
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Speaker 2: that one.

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00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: That's one for the books, just.

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Speaker 8: To dove tell that same subject missed the householder. You

553
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Speaker 8: don't think he would buy himself.

554
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Speaker 9: I wonder how how.

555
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 8: Much of that, the good things he did, got passed

556
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Speaker 8: around there. Yeah, Columbus, Well, there were a lot of

557
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Speaker 8: people took advantage of that.

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Speaker 2: There were others convicted as well. Matt Borges was one,

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Speaker 2: and there was also one a high powered lobbyist whose

560
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Speaker 2: name just escapes me at the time, who tragically committed

561
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Speaker 2: suicide over it. So yeah, he wasn't the only one

562
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Speaker 2: that suffered, but he was the ringleader and he got

563
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Speaker 2: zapped pretty bad. I don't think mister Borges got anything

564
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Speaker 2: close to the sentence that that householder did.

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Speaker 8: Was your twenty years household.

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Speaker 3: Something like I think it is twenty years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, no one of these. If that was me,

568
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Speaker 8: I'd be trying to appeal at too.

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Speaker 9: You know, yeah, you know, literally.

570
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Speaker 8: Got his hand got caught the cookie jaw. I'll still

571
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Speaker 8: be trying to get an appeal, you know.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean that's like that whole thing.

573
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Speaker 2: It was like nineteen thirty ninety teen twenties politics, just

574
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: a blatant, brazen attacked successfully until he got caught. Millions

575
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Speaker 2: of dollars for that too, for that energy company.

576
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Speaker 3: And man.

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00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a I think there's a book that's

578
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: been written about it. I read a long, long article

579
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago about it. It's it's really

580
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Speaker 2: something to see and to hear about and kind of

581
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Speaker 2: watch it unfold.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 8: Well, and my other topic was education, Yes, sir, well,

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Speaker 8: I kind of guess you know. I went, I'm gonna

585
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Speaker 8: use the alumnus engineer and alumnus okay, and I've got

586
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 8: a lot of complaints there. Uh now, no, I'm not

587
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Speaker 8: gonna buoy him engine in. But there's a lot of

588
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Speaker 8: other majors where these college kids, college kids like us,

589
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Speaker 8: We went in there and spent tens of thousands of

590
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Speaker 8: dollars knowing you're gonna give a good job.

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Speaker 3: Ball of me in.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, sometimes those good jobs don't show up. You know,

593
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Speaker 8: I'm saying, no worries is there's some corruption going over there.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of pipelining going on there.

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00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 8: Even with those they PCU, there's a lot of pipelining

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Speaker 8: going on.

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Speaker 6: So so a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of people.

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Speaker 8: They'll pay you money on the front end, you know,

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Speaker 8: and you know, just so they could get your started

601
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Speaker 8: in there. Sit on the back of here and you

602
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Speaker 8: think you're going to make you know, I'll make here

603
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Speaker 8: and you look nothing there?

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00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: Now?

605
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 8: Is there some corruption going on?

606
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: Our higher education system is a mess? Rick, I'm out

607
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: of town, man. I'm bumping up against the news. But

608
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate the call. Okay, thank you.

609
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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I am bumping up against the news.

610
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Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk to attorney

611
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Speaker 2: James Bogan. He is going to tell a tragic tale

612
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Speaker 2: of a twenty year old person who got the transition

613
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Speaker 2: surgery and very very quickly thereafter determined that it was

614
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Speaker 2: not a good thing. And it's just a sad story.

615
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Speaker 2: And James will laying out when we get back. Allen

616
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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Do want to be an American idiot?

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're back, Mike Allen in for Scott Sloan on

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Speaker 2: New Year's Day, twenty twenty six. Well, I'll tell you

620
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Speaker 2: what this last year just flew by. It really did well.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you Our next guest, James Bogan, Attorney James

622
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Speaker 2: Bogan and also podcaster, has a sad story to tell

623
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Speaker 2: us about the whole transitioning thing that all took place

624
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Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty five. James, can you kind

625
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Speaker 2: of kick it off here by telling us about this situation,

626
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Speaker 2: the name and what it involves and everything else.

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Speaker 10: Yes, you saw.

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Speaker 4: The Department of Health and Human Services have a recent

629
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Speaker 4: announcement for regulations to end sex change procedures on minors,

630
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Speaker 4: pursuing the Trump's executive order right from last year, and

631
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Speaker 4: this twenty one d trans year old d transition named

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Speaker 4: Chloe Cole was at the center of this, and in

633
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three she filed a lawsuit against various hospitals

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Speaker 4: for pushing her into getting these procedures done between the

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Speaker 4: ages of twelve and sixteen. I mean, she was a

636
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Speaker 4: tomboy and these doctors just pushed her straight into these

637
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Speaker 4: procedures because you know how, back when I was growing up,

638
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Speaker 4: when I first started hearing about adults getting these kinds

639
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Speaker 4: of procedures done, they would have to live for a

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Speaker 4: year or so as the opposite gender before even getting hormones.

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Speaker 4: And now with minors, for some reason, you have these

642
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Speaker 4: activist doctors who like to push them right in the

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Speaker 4: hormones after like a thirty minute meeting or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And Jamie, I mean that's been an ongoing problem throughout

645
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Speaker 2: the country until President Trump's in and kind of dropped

646
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Speaker 2: a hammer.

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Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he only banned his executive order only affects hospitals

649
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Speaker 4: and medical facilities that receive federal funds, this Department of

650
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Speaker 4: Health and Human Services stuff. But I think goes further

651
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Speaker 4: than that. Obviously I need to look at it more,

652
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Speaker 4: but basically what happened here is when this ms Cole

653
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Speaker 4: was showing signs of being a tomboy, her doctors didn't

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Speaker 4: share the risks only how did the benefits. I say

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Speaker 4: this in quotes of stopping female puberty and using testosterone

656
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Speaker 4: and these. I mean, these doctors just completely, you know,

657
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Speaker 4: fast tracked her onto this stuff like they do in

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Speaker 4: a lot of other cases. And her parents they felt trapped, right,

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Speaker 4: you were basically told by the doctors she's going to

660
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Speaker 4: commit suicide, and and she feels her parents were forced

661
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Speaker 4: to make this decision under duress. I mean, as far

662
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Speaker 4: as the suicide part you saw from the cast report,

663
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Speaker 4: the peopril that came out in April twenty twenty four

664
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Speaker 4: out of the UK, a three hundred and eighty eight

665
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Speaker 4: page report that basically debunked all these ideas that are

666
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Speaker 4: pushed by doctors and said no one under eighteen should

667
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Speaker 4: get hormones and great cautions should be exercise of patients

668
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Speaker 4: under twenty five. And then there was that ten million

669
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Speaker 4: dollars study out of the children's hospital in LA that

670
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Speaker 4: showed that puberty blockers don't improve kids' mental health. That

671
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Speaker 4: was the one where the doctor in charge of it,

672
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Speaker 4: in October of twenty three came under fire for refusing

673
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Speaker 4: to publish the study because I don't want these findings politicized.

674
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Speaker 4: It's like, no, this is just facts, right, not conjecture.

675
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Speaker 2: Well, anytime you do something on that the left doesn't like,

676
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: no matter what it is, I'll say, well, you're just

677
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: using this for political purposes. I think you and I

678
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: talked a while back too, James. There was a Dutch study,

679
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: a fifteen year Dutch study that confirmed transgenderism that something

680
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: that I think we all understood, transgenderism among children is

681
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: largely a fad, And it would seem to me that

682
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Speaker 2: anyone with any common sense could have figured that out.

683
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that study basically showed that once they're pasted the

684
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Speaker 4: years of puberty, they get over it large statistically, I

685
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Speaker 4: mean that statistics, not just some stuff coming from the

686
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Speaker 4: MAGA crowd and quite frankly from the Dutch. They're not

687
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Speaker 4: exactly the most conservative boundary. So when you have these

688
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: European countries, all of them are way more liberal than

689
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Speaker 4: the US coming out with these findings, that should make

690
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Speaker 4: you think of it.

691
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Speaker 2: You would, yeah, and exactly, but apparently they're not. And

692
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Speaker 2: you know in theory that you gave me and you

693
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Speaker 2: did mention the parents, you know, they do say now

694
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Speaker 2: that they were worried about the suicide thing, But I

695
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it seems to me if my

696
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Speaker 2: child came to me with, you know, this kind of question,

697
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Speaker 2: I would do a little bit more than shrug my shoulders,

698
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And the thing is now, Chloe Cole is dealing

700
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Speaker 4: with numerous complications from all these procedures, I mean, the medications,

701
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Speaker 4: the surgeries. Doesn't know if she's going to be able

702
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Speaker 4: to have kids or breastfeed, and some of the breast

703
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 4: reconstruction she had has failed, so she has to wear

704
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 4: bandages on her chest every day, she had to get

705
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Speaker 4: skin grafts done on her chest.

706
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Speaker 3: Yep.

707
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a direct quote from her quote as an adult,

708
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Speaker 2: I am now grieving, and on top of that, the

709
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm batch this the area oler skin graphs they use

710
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: in my surgery began to fail two years afterwards. Like

711
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Speaker 2: you just say, James, she says, and this is her speaking,

712
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Speaker 2: I must wear badges on my chest, a bandages on

713
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: my chest every day. And what a sad, sad situation.

714
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Speaker 2: And you know how old was she when she started

715
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Speaker 2: this whole process?

716
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Speaker 6: Twelve?

717
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 4: What that hell can sixteenth? And the thing is, there

718
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 4: have been absolutely no studies about the long term safety

719
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Speaker 4: of blockers and hormones, so anyone who says they've been

720
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Speaker 4: proven safe is lying.

721
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

722
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Speaker 2: Well she's got another quote here, James, and you touched

723
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Speaker 2: on this again.

724
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Speaker 3: This is MS Cole. I'm quoting her for betimere.

725
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Speaker 2: My legal guardians were forced to make this decision, meaning

726
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Speaker 2: I guess her parents under duress.

727
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Speaker 3: She shared that in a previous statement.

728
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: Goes on to further say, quote, but even if my

729
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: parents had supported transitioning medically from start, no parent or

730
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: adult ultimately has a right to determine whether a child

731
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Speaker 2: gets to be chemically sterilized or mutilated. A pretty self

732
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Speaker 2: evident statement in and of itself, wouldn't you say?

733
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

734
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Speaker 4: And that's coming straight from the person right all this

735
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Speaker 4: stuff was done to I mean, how many of these

736
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: people are being silenced by the left just so they

737
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Speaker 4: can push their agenda. Oh, let's just sweep this under.

738
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Speaker 2: The rug, right right, Well, you know, and you've been

739
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: talking about this for a long time. You and I

740
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: have been talking about it for a long time. I

741
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 2: ask you this question just about every time we talk.

742
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Speaker 2: Do you see this thing kind of going in the

743
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: other direction, where, in addition to the President's executive water

744
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: other things you correct me if I'm wrong, other things

745
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: are happening to put a stop to this just cruel

746
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: and brutal procedure.

747
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I see this between Aside from the government regulation,

748
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 4: we're seeing these de transitional lawsuits. And right now, some

749
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 4: of these lawsuits are hitting a brick wall with statue

750
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 4: of limitations with because it's the courts are considering them

751
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: medical malpractice. You'll probably guess what leading those judges have.

752
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 4: And the thing is, you've got fraud in here. Too,

753
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: it's not just medical malpractice. And there's a push in

754
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Speaker 4: a number of states to limit this, to expand the

755
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 4: statute of limitations to as long as thirty years past

756
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Speaker 4: the patient's birthday. And in September in Congress there is

757
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 4: a bill introduced called the Victims of Chemical or Surgical

758
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: Mutilation Act, which expands it to twenty five years, and

759
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: it would ban medical professionals from performing these procedures on

760
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Speaker 4: kids and create a civil right of action for detransitioners.

761
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what it sounds like.

762
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Speaker 2: It's certainly needed, and you know, just looking at it

763
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Speaker 2: here there was a quote from miss Cole that I

764
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: thought was very very appropriate and just kind of put

765
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Speaker 2: the put the whole thing in a good, a good light,

766
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: and it was a quote about pretty much hate we are.

767
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to find her here, James, that, oh, here,

768
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Speaker 2: it is what she needed, This is miss Cole. What

769
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Speaker 2: she needed. Cole said was to be loved and affirmed

770
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Speaker 2: for the way God created her as a young and

771
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: yet tom boyish little girl.

772
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Speaker 3: Now growing up.

773
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Speaker 2: I'm sure I got a few years on you, James,

774
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Speaker 2: but we've both seen, you know, girls that were tomboys

775
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you rip their bodies apart and you know,

776
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 2: detransition them.

777
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Speaker 3: It's just a very very sad story.

778
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Speaker 2: And you know, as you just pointed out, there are

779
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: things that are in process to try to put a

780
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: stop to it. We got some time left here. I

781
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: did want to ask you though about another case, Clementine Brain,

782
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: who I think she got involved in this stuff at eleven,

783
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Speaker 2: she's now twenty one.

784
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Speaker 3: Did you tell us about that story?

785
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 11: Yeah, she was actually her.

786
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Speaker 4: The doctor who did this same stuff to her was

787
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Speaker 4: the doctor behind that children's hospital study in LA that

788
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: I mentioned a couple minutes ago.

789
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Speaker 6: And you know, the.

790
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: Doctor falsely claimed the Breeden's parents that Breen would commit suicide,

791
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 4: express suicidal thoughts, falsely claimed she had a male identity

792
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: since childhood, when in reality she had just started having

793
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: those thoughts months prior to treatment, and there was nothing

794
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: in the doctor's notes about suicidal thoughts. I mean those

795
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 4: obviously doctors are trained to write that stuff down if

796
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 4: it's happening, right right, they have to and right now.

797
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 4: This is one of those cases that was dismissed for

798
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Speaker 4: under statute of limitations grounds for medical malpractice by likely

799
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Speaker 4: activist judges. I mean, this is in California state courts,

800
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: so you know how that's going right right now, it's

801
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 4: under appeal. But that's where the stuff about expanding statute

802
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: of limitations comes into play as well.

803
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: Sure, well, you know, as I said, with this young

804
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: person at eleven, the notes indicate she found solace in

805
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: the transgender activist community on Tumblr and thought, quote, this

806
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: is going to fix me.

807
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean obviously it was actually is a bel

808
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Speaker 3: ayala oh that was her Okay, Yeah.

809
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Speaker 4: But now another case that we had discussed before, same

810
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: kind of thing though, and you have the same age

811
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: range here where Breen was prescribed blockers at twelve, hormones

812
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: at thirteen, double mistectomy at fourteen.

813
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

814
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you, you and I have talked a number

815
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: of times about the Cash report again coming out of

816
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: the UK, the UK's National Health Service wreck commended no

817
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: one under eighteen and you've already said this today, no

818
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: one under eighteen get hormone drugs and that quote great

819
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: caution should be exercised with patients under twenty five. Experts

820
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: in parentheses, experts are still pushing not just hormones, but

821
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Speaker 2: surgery for kids experiencing gender dysphoria. Do you see anything

822
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: in the works James Bogan on the lines of the

823
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: Cast report from the UK in this country. I mean

824
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: people are aware of the problem, but anything similar to

825
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: the Cash report being worked on here.

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Speaker 4: It's going to take laws to do it. Because the

827
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Speaker 4: medical those medical groups, they are determined not to clean

828
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Speaker 4: up their own act. I mean the American Academy of

829
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Speaker 4: Pediatrics as being the one of the big culprits. I

830
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: mean they sit there and push every left wing cause

831
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Speaker 4: they can, right. I mean, they push this sex changes

832
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: on kids stuff, They push gun control, Obamacare, they push

833
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: vaccine mandates, mask mandates, closing schools during COVID. It was

834
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Speaker 4: just like any kind of far left thing they can

835
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: latch onto they do. They're so politicized. That's where you

836
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: need laws being passed. But hey, doctors, you're not going

837
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: to clean up your own house. We're going to do

838
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: it for you.

839
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Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, I mean that's the way it's gotta be.

840
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Speaker 2: They obviously are more not all, but many doctors in

841
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: this situation are more concerned about their political beliefs than

842
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: they are the health and safety of a young person,

843
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: you know. I mean sometimes I'm accused of thinking too basically,

844
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: but it's God made you one or the other, you know,

845
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: and all this stuff that trying to change it because

846
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Speaker 2: somebody feels bad or they think they might commit suicide.

847
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Speaker 2: Now you correct me if I'm wrong, James. Those suicide

848
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: claims are way way overblown, are they not?

849
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Speaker 3: Is that?

850
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Speaker 6: What?

851
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? There you just by the cast report. Yeah, And

852
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: you know the thing is, I don't care if an

853
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 4: adult wants to do it, if they, you know, go

854
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: through the whole long process that you know I mentioned

855
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: the top of this segment. But when you push kids

856
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 4: into it and make them make permanent decisions before their

857
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 4: brains are fully developed and fast tracked, and that too,

858
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Speaker 4: I mean what I mean, how do alarm bells not

859
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: go off with a normal person? The thing with doctors

860
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 4: who do have reservations about this, they're afraid to speak

861
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Speaker 4: out because they don't want to be ostracized professionally.

862
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: Yep, and you know you would.

863
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: Well, there are obviously, and you've discovered them, some in

864
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: the medical profession who understand that this whole deal, this

865
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Speaker 2: whole procedure is fraught with problems. And are those doctors

866
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Speaker 2: speaking up because a lot of times people with a

867
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Speaker 2: more concern of an event if they happen to be

868
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: in a liberal profession, they're they're kind of they're reluctant

869
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Speaker 2: to come forward. Are you seeing, at least in the

870
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Speaker 2: United States, more doctors coming forward and saying and psychologists saying, hey,

871
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: wait a minute, people, this is bad news.

872
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Speaker 3: We shouldn't be doing this.

873
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Speaker 4: You're starting to see it come out.

874
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Speaker 9: It doesn't seem.

875
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Speaker 4: Overwhelming right now. I mean, of course, I wonder how

876
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 4: much of that is from the media, you know, keeping

877
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: that trying to keep that the lid on that, you know,

878
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 4: how they keep the lid on everything that's not liberal.

879
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're starting to see that. And I think

880
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 4: this whole this, this whole stuff about kids sex changes

881
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 4: is probably one of the things that caused the Democrats

882
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 4: to lose so badly in twenty twenty ten. That was

883
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: the silent that was the silent majority stepping up.

884
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: Yep, you're right, and the same thing.

885
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: And you've researched and spoke extensively about men in women's sports.

886
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: An eighty twenty issue.

887
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: I mean, if eighty percent of the country opposes that,

888
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: why are we still dealing with I guess I'll just

889
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: have to ask that rhetorically.

890
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 4: Hey see, Igury Tower Liberals.

891
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: There you go.

892
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: Hey, before we go, I want you to tell everyone

893
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: about your podcast, what it's about, and where they can

894
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: hear it.

895
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 9: It's past the clock.

896
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: You can hear out on iHeart, Apple and Spotify. It

897
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 4: generally comes out bi weekly, and I discuss, you know,

898
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: a lot of the same kinds of topics that I

899
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: do on the radio. I also but for my last

900
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 4: two segments, I decided to focus on fun topics because

901
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: the holiday season of pro wrestling in the gym and

902
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: the fitness for beginners. But you can find an Apple,

903
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 4: I iHeart and Spotify and and you know it's it's

904
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: something that's I've been learning a lot doing it.

905
00:53:58,560 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: There you go.

906
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I've listened to it. It's a great podcast.

907
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: I would recommend it. James, thanks so much for sharing

908
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: your time on New Year's Day. We really appreciate it.

909
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mike always a privileged Happy New Year, and

910
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: congratulations on your grandag Thank you.

911
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, James. I appreciate that. All right, that

912
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: was James Bogan, you know what I mean. I'm glad

913
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: he's staying on this subject and he has for a

914
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: long time and hopefully, hopefully it's turning around. Hey, we

915
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: got to take a break. Button we get back. Let's

916
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: go back to the phone. Seven point nine, seven thousand, one,

917
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: eight hundred. The big one are the numbers, and you

918
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: can talk about anything you want, but we'll be back

919
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: in just a little bit. Mike Allen Saturday, excuse me,

920
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 2: in for Sloaney, seven hundred WLW. They were back Mike

921
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: Allen in for Sloaney on New Year's Day, seven hundred WLW.

922
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: Be back tomorrow as well for Sloaney, and then of

923
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: course Saturday morning for Saturday midday. You know, we're taking

924
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: a look back at the year twenty twenty five, any

925
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: number of classifications. I guess you could say sports, news, politics.

926
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 2: Wanted to look at music, and I think maybe a

927
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: good way to do that would be to see the

928
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: inductees in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for

929
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And it's interesting. It's an interesting class

930
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of you have ever been

931
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: up to see that in Cleveland. My goodness, for me,

932
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: it's probably been ten fifteen years. But it is something else,

933
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's probably even better now, if you

934
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: want to go up there, if you do that, just plan.

935
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: If you want to look at all of it and

936
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: do it right, takes you at least a day to

937
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: do it. But if you are a rock and roll fan,

938
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: it is really interesting. However, the people that they admit

939
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: into it many times, in my opinion at least, don't

940
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: have anything to do with rock and roll. I guess

941
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: the deal is. I mean, they've been around for a

942
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: long long time, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

943
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: Maybe they run out of people.

944
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

945
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: But anyway, here are the people and groups that were

946
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and

947
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: were inducted.

948
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 3: I think it was in November, all right.

949
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: Number One Outcast American rap duo that began in the

950
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: nineteen nineties Key Songs, Hey Yeah, Ms Jackson and Roses.

951
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I've heard of Outcast. I

952
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you anything about them.

953
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

954
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: I've probably heard some of their stuff, not knowing that

955
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: I've heard it, but and obviously they're good at what

956
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: they do. But I just I don't know what it

957
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: has to do with rock and roll. Okay, here's one

958
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: you don't have to ask if this group is about

959
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: rock and roll. It is Bad Company, It's a British

960
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: rock band. It was formed, Oh jeez, I think like

961
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: in the mid eighties some huge, huge hits feel like

962
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: Making Love, Can't Get Enough and Bad Company, and I

963
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: think they're still touring. They were inducted by Mick Fleetwood.

964
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: Bad Company drummer Simon Kirk was joined by Nancy Wilson

965
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: of Heart and Joe Perry of Aerosmith on guitars, and

966
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: The Black Crows lead singer Chris Robinson was on vocal.

967
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: Here's another one. And I heard somebody this morning.

968
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was talking about this Cindy

969
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: Lauper who you know. I mean, she's pleasant. I like her,

970
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: arguably not real rock and roll, but she was inducted.

971
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: Her solo career began in the early eighties key songs

972
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: girls just want to have Fun, time after time, true colors,

973
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: remember all three of those songs. She was inducted by

974
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: Chappelle Rohan ro o An not familiar with that person.

975
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: She performed a edley of her hits, including duets with

976
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: Avril Levine, Ray and Say That Again, Dave for Me

977
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: Avril Levine. See I told you man, if it wasn't, Oh, okay, okay,

978
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: all right, let's move on here.

979
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: Soundgarden again. Not too sure about them.

980
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: Don't know who they are, American rock band formed in

981
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: eighty four. Key songs black Hole, sun Fell on Black Days,

982
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: and Outshined. Don't know anything about them. They were inducted

983
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: by Jim Carrey, who is a big time ignorant liberal.

984
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: Excuse me, but that's just my opinion. And then Salt

985
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: and Peppa. It's a rap group from the eighties. They

986
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: had some hits, but once again, don't know how it

987
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: relates to rock and rolling. Hey, you know, I'm definitely

988
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: into an up four being corrected or explained to on

989
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: all of this. If you want to Chubby Checker, here

990
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: we are. Now, We're where we need to be with

991
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: respect to rock and roll. Of course, he released records

992
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 2: in the fifties. The big ones were the Twist, Let's

993
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: Twist again like we did last Summer and Limbo Rock,

994
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: and up until a few years ago he was still

995
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: touring and mad. He was still belting it out too,

996
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: and really, I mean, you know you can argue that, hey,

997
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: he's not on the level with you know, Chuck Berry,

998
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: Cherry Lee, Lewis, Elvison most people, but had a big

999
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: influence on rock and roll. And you know he he

1000
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: introduced people to the Twist, which was a big, big deal.

1001
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 2: Now there's a little bit of a local connection here.

1002
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: There was a fellow that recorded the Twist before he did,

1003
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: Hank Ballard, and I think he recorded that in the

1004
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: studios out there in Evanston King King Records, and it

1005
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: was good. Frankly, I like his version better than Chubby Checkers.

1006
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: They're pretty close though, But anyway, he didn't Hank Bauer

1007
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: didn't do real well with it. Chubby Checker did. He

1008
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: made a career out of it, but just kind of

1009
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: an interesting thing. Okay, rock and roll all the way here.

1010
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: Joe Cocker release records in the sixties. Died in twenty fourteen.

1011
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: You Are So Beautiful, which was really kind of out

1012
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: of his style, but he did a good job with

1013
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: it up where we belong and with a little help

1014
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: for my Friend's Beatles song, I think that was probably

1015
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: his biggest hit, so very appropriate in my humble opinion.

1016
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: The next group is the White Stripes. Again, I'm sorry,

1017
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about them.

1018
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: What did they do?

1019
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 7: Dave?

1020
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: Help me?

1021
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: Okay, he's gonna find something for me. They began in

1022
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties key song seven Nation Army, We're.

1023
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: Going to be here we go.

1024
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I recognize him right out the bag said,

1025
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: if you watch Ohio State games, you know this song.

1026
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: That's probably where I know it from. All Right, thanks

1027
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: for the assist on that, Dave, I really I appreciate that.

1028
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: Warren Zevon. Now, this guy's way kind of out there,

1029
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: but I like his stuff. He's a singer songwriter American.

1030
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: He began releasing solo records in the early seventies. He

1031
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: died in two thousand and three. Key Songs. This one's

1032
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: right up my alley. Key Songs, Lawyers, Guns and Money.

1033
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: But my favorite is it's just a really goofy song

1034
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: that I think is cool, The Werewolves of London really

1035
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: a weird but really kind of a cool song. I

1036
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: think he was inducted by another big time lib David Letterman,

1037
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: who's got the Santa Claus beard. Now, okay, here's the

1038
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: last one, and this one I think is extremely appropriate.

1039
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say the name, and I'll bet

1040
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: you most of you won't even recognize it. Carol Kay Kaye,

1041
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: not Carol King. Carol kay She was a session musician,

1042
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: obviously a woman. She played on all kinds of rock

1043
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: hits and I think some Sinatra Perry Como stuff. She

1044
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: was a part of a thing called the Wrecking Crew,

1045
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: like the Beach Boys. For example, she was on Good Vibrations.

1046
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: The Beach Boys. They were known for their harmonies. Of course,

1047
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: Brian Wilson a musical genius in my humble opinion, on

1048
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: the lines of Mozart and Beethoven. However, they weren't the

1049
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: best on their instruments, although let's see, probably I would

1050
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: say Carl Wilson was pretty good guitar player. But anyway,

1051
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: they used a lot of these groups. Beach Boys are one.

1052
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: When they made it big, they'd get in the studio,

1053
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: they'd do the vocals, and then the Wrecking Crew, who

1054
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: Carol kay was a part of, they would do the

1055
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 2: instruments and it came out real good. Anyway, Her key

1056
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: song's Good Vibrations, which arguably least one or two top

1057
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: two rock and roll hits of all time. Nancy Sinatra,

1058
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: these boots were way made for walking well, I'll.

1059
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: Tell you what.

1060
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: I had a thing for her when I was a kid,

1061
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: and Barbara streisand's the way we were. So anyway, that's

1062
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: your twenty twenty five class in the Rock and Roll

1063
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Some had scratchers there for me, maybe

1064
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: not for you guys. You know, Well, we'll see who

1065
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: gets in next year. Hey, let's take a break and

1066
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: we'll come back. Oh, we got some calls here. We'll

1067
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: come back with calls. Mike Allen in for Sloaney seven

1068
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

1069
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: What two three.

1070
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 3: Because he loved so Oh my sir, Hey, we're back.

1071
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: We are back with Outcast, one of the inductees in

1072
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Hall of Fame class. And I

1073
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: do recognize that song. No, I've heard it a few times. Hey,

1074
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: A lot of people want to talk about this, so

1075
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: we are going to do so. But I just wanted

1076
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: to give you an idea. First nineteen eighty six, the

1077
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: first class listening to these legends, Chuck Berry, James Brown, Ray, Charles,

1078
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: Sam Cook, Fats Domino, Phil and Don, the Everly Brothers,

1079
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: Buddy Holly, Jered, Lee Lewis, Little Richard Boy. There's two

1080
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: wild men right there. The King Elvis Presley, the Coasters,

1081
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: Eddie Cochran. Boy he was a badass back in the day.

1082
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: Bo Diddley, who's got his own beat, and boy he

1083
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: was still performing I think up until a few years back.

1084
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gabe, Bill Haley, of course Bill Haley

1085
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: in the comments, early early rocker, and BB King. So

1086
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure as the years went by, you know, they

1087
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: ran out of the people that started rock and roll. So,

1088
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: you know, I have to admit my my tastes are

1089
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: not as everyone's are, but it is what it is. Hey,

1090
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Let's talk to Eric in col Raine. Hey,

1091
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: good morning Eric.

1092
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 11: Hey, good morning Mike. Happy New year too.

1093
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: You too, man, what you got.

1094
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 7: Hey?

1095
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, so you know a little a little younger than

1096
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 12: you So yeah, all those people you're listed, uh listing

1097
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 12: off there, you know, definitely grew up with a lot

1098
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 12: of that.

1099
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 11: Sure, especially with with with Outcast.

1100
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 12: Now, I know it's rock and roll Hall of Fame,

1101
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 12: and but we should have looked at rock and roll

1102
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 12: as just one thing.

1103
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 11: You know, it's kind of more like a music hall

1104
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 11: of fame.

1105
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 12: True, with Outcast and uh, you know the style of

1106
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 12: rap and hip hop that they made, especially in like

1107
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 12: the mid to late nineties or two thousands, because really

1108
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 12: that hey Ya song was I mean they've been out

1109
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 12: for ten to fifteen years before that song Kit came

1110
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 12: out and really them again, you know yeah, and uh,

1111
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 12: you know a lot of their early stuff and what's

1112
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 12: great about and what I like about it is.

1113
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 11: That, you know, the the lyrics, the message uh in

1114
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 11: their music.

1115
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 12: It's not like the mainstream hip hop and rap that

1116
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 12: we get these days, where it's like if you're not

1117
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 12: talking about killing somebody, if you're not talking about degrading

1118
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 12: women or doing drugs, you know, like you're never gonna.

1119
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 11: Get any plays.

1120
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 12: And they really kind of talked about the struggle of

1121
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 12: you know, growing up in Atlanta, being around that environment,

1122
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 12: but you know, elevating themselves to get out of it

1123
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 12: and kind of putting.

1124
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:51,959
Speaker 11: More of like a real life.

1125
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 12: You know, you know, right like with Miss Jackson, you know,

1126
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 12: having a kid when you're young and you're in you know,

1127
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 12: your your baby's mama's mama is upset with you, thinks

1128
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 12: you're a bad person, just you know, and just kind

1129
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 12: of putting those emotions and those things out there. Uh,

1130
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 12: you know that everyday stuff that that people go through,

1131
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 12: you know, right. So yeah, so I think they're definitely

1132
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 12: rightfully deserved to be up there. Andre three thousand and

1133
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 12: big Boy.

1134
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 7: Uh.

1135
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 11: Some of the best lyricists. Uh. If you ever want to.

1136
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 12: Go down that rabbit hole of out cast music, you

1137
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 12: start off with Southern playlistic Cadillac music and just kind

1138
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 12: of go from there. And and yeah, just just give

1139
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 12: them a listen. They got a nice funk to them,

1140
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 12: like like the music is funky, uh to go with

1141
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 12: the hip hop and everything. So yeah, I think they

1142
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 12: definitely deserve those flowers.

1143
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: You know, great, great call, Eric, I appreciate it, and

1144
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: I did recognize that tune right off the bat, but hey,

1145
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: thanks for weighing in. I really appreciate it. Okay, let's

1146
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: talk to Let's talk to Dan in Chevois, Ohio. He

1147
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: wants to talk about Sound Garden. Good morning, Dan, what

1148
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: you got.

1149
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 10: Well, my favorite out of that list is Warren Zevon.

1150
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 10: But yeah, they're that like early like that grunge like

1151
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 10: Nirvana types sound with the distorted like glow grunty voice,

1152
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 10: you know.

1153
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 3: Talking about right right?

1154
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Black Hole song has this part where he

1155
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 10: goes like a distorted voice right while. I saw Peter

1156
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 10: Frampton at the Blue Ash Fireworks and he covered it

1157
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 10: and that little palp talk fox voice that he like

1158
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 10: did with his do you feel like we do?

1159
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1160
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like he.

1161
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 10: Covered this grunge song as his exit, as his encore.

1162
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 10: You know he did like the he did like his

1163
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 10: voicebox with like that nineties grunge.

1164
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: Is that what they called out? They call out a voicebox.

1165
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you mean with him and the

1166
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: Blue Ash show. It's it's uh, it's a pretty big thing.

1167
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: But man, you think about it, that guy Frampton, I mean,

1168
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: he was on top of the world. I guess it

1169
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: was late seventies, early eighties. I think he had close

1170
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: to the biggest seller of all time, at least the album.

1171
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: And the women loved him. He was a good looking

1172
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: guy and every and.

1173
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: For a while he married a Cincinnati girl, lived out

1174
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 2: in Indian Hill. I don't think he does it no more.

1175
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 10: But not anymore.

1176
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 6: But yeah, he liked it so much.

1177
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 10: He covered it and he did a great job at it.

1178
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 10: And you probably know some Soundgarden if you heard it,

1179
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 10: it's the same same deal. I'm gonna shout out to

1180
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 10: Warren Zevon. My favorite Warren Zevon song is the actually

1181
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 10: a country song called hard X Spoken here and he

1182
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 10: has Dwight Yoak come as his backup vocals on it.

1183
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm gonna check that out. Hey, thanks a lot.

1184
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I love Warren Zevon. Yeah, I mean, okay,

1185
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna hear some sound right.

1186
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 3: You know, Dave.

1187
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: That sounds a little bit like led Zeppelin to me.

1188
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: And this is sound guard.

1189
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: What's the name of it? Spoon Man?

1190
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much, David. Let's see we

1191
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: got time for at least one more. How about Mike

1192
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: in West Lafayette. Hey, how you doing, Mike? What you

1193
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: got for him?

1194
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:17,440
Speaker 9: Hey?

1195
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 11: Hey, good Mike. Hey, I'm a big fan of the

1196
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 11: band Fish. pH h.

1197
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: Yes.

1198
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 11: When they when they nominated all the guy the bands

1199
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 11: for this year, Fish ended up with fifty thousand more

1200
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 11: votes than Bad Company and whoever the Tough was, and

1201
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 11: they didn't get in. Yeah, really I'm amazed. I mean

1202
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 11: I saw him. I haven't been to too many shows

1203
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 11: outside Indiana, but we saw him in New York. They

1204
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 11: did thirteen shows in a row at Madison Square Garden

1205
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 11: in seventeen and they just finished four nights, four shows,

1206
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 11: all sold out at they do Madison Square Garden so

1207
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 11: every Christmas.

1208
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: So you're saying, you're saying they were up for it

1209
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: and didn't get in, And it brings up a good question.

1210
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, how are what is the vote? Who votes?

1211
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 3: And who decides?

1212
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 11: If you know I voted, I mean I've voted several times.

1213
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 11: There's nothing there. He said, you said that you couldn't

1214
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 11: vote more than once, and they have a huge following,

1215
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 11: and I'm absolutely certain that people voted many times. I'm

1216
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 11: sure they've voted many times for all the ones that won. Right,

1217
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 11: And these guys are Libs and they're from Vermont, and

1218
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 11: they're very they're very musical, and uh, I mean, there's

1219
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 11: so much talent there and I'm still just really upset

1220
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 11: that if they didn't get in.

1221
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds next year.

1222
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: But it sounds like some polity.

1223
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 6: He let me.

1224
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: Let me say this, Mike, if they don't get in

1225
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: next year and there's cheating going on, I'll come out

1226
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 2: of retirement and we will file a suit, lawsuit. How's

1227
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: that sound they are going in? Okay? Okay, I thought

1228
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 2: you said they didn't make it in.

1229
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 11: They didn't last I knew they didn't.

1230
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: Well, I'm being I'm being told. I'm being told. I'm

1231
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: being told that they are. We will check it out.

1232
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: We will check it out. I appreciate the call.

1233
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 11: All right, they were nominated.

1234
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: I know, Okay, thanks, all right, I'll go with Big Dave.

1235
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: He said that they are in. Hey, just to look

1236
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 2: at some of the other classes we did eighty six.

1237
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: You know, I'm doing these old ones because they are

1238
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: people that I recognize. Wait, man, eighty seven. I didn't

1239
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: let many in at all. Clyde mcpatter, course of the Platters.

1240
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: H Rick Nelson, who I happen to believe is one

1241
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: of the most underappreciated people in rock history, had all

1242
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: those huge hits. He was a pretty boy uh back

1243
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 2: in the fifties, but bounced back big time in the

1244
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: late sixties with a song called Garden Party that he

1245
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 2: wrote himself then then and nobody listened to it, but

1246
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: it was good stuff country rock.

1247
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 3: He got involved in country rock long.

1248
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: Before some of the Eagles and some other ones did so. Anyway,

1249
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: he got in Roy Orbison, Wow, I mean, you can't

1250
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: say enough about him. Carl Perkins Smokey Robinson, Big Joe Turner,

1251
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: Muddy Waters oh Man, and Jackie Wilson, great great great

1252
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: singer tragically died on stage. I forget what year. And

1253
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: Elvis Presley was a good friend to his and Elvis helped.

1254
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 2: He was in a coma for a long time. Elvis

1255
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: helped with his medical bills. Last one I get to

1256
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 2: talk about. I wish I could talk more. My favorite group,

1257
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 2: the Beach Boys, the only group with number one hits

1258
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 2: in five separate decades. Hey, we got to take a break.

1259
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: But when we come back, we're playing politics and we

1260
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: are going to do that with Kevin Burton. We'll do

1261
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: that when we get back. Mike Allen Infra Sloane seven

1262
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

1263
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 1: Do want to be an American idiot?

1264
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: There's radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for Sloany

1265
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: today and tomorrow. Well, I've been looking forward to this

1266
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: all day. We did something similar to this yesterday. Kevin

1267
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: Burton is an independent political analyst and political operative. If

1268
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: you will, kind of a hired gun. You'll work for

1269
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: either one, and boy, you need that, I mean you

1270
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 2: do to get some perspective. But what we have today

1271
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 2: is the twenty twenty five End of Year Political Awards.

1272
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 3: Thank you so much Kevin for being a part of this.

1273
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 9: Thank you for having me. And Happy New Years everyone.

1274
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: You too, You too? Okay, we're both going to participate

1275
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: in this one. You know what I think we can do, Kevin,

1276
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: We'll alternate as to who goes first.

1277
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: The award for Winner of the Year. Who do you have,

1278
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 3: Kevin Burton?

1279
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,839
Speaker 9: Are we doing national or local?

1280
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: I did national, you can do local, do it, you know,

1281
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

1282
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 13: I actually have a hot take here. I'm actually gonna

1283
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 13: say aftab the mayor. For all the negativity that everything happened,

1284
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 13: he still got eighty percent of the vote. He got

1285
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 13: all nine of his council elected. They just showed that

1286
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,879
Speaker 13: everything was chatter and that he has a political machine.

1287
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 13: So for all the noise and everything, he came out

1288
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 13: stronger today.

1289
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 9: Than he was twelve months ago.

1290
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: You know, I have to reluctantly agree with you on that.

1291
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it was the results were pretty stunning. You've

1292
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: been around long enough, Kevin that you don't really rack

1293
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: up those kind of numbers, but he did. I get it,

1294
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 2: and you know, I get reluctantly have to kind of

1295
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: agree with you on that. You know, he got everything

1296
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: but the kitchen sink thrown at him and still did

1297
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: pretty darn good for me. I went national on this,

1298
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: and nobody will be surprised. Donald Trump the winner of

1299
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: the year for obvious reasons. He took office this year

1300
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 2: the most remarkable political comeback in political history, even rival

1301
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 2: rival ring if I don't know how to say it,

1302
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: Richard Nixon in nineteen sixty eight. Nobody thought he was

1303
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: coming back. He lost to Kennedy, then he lost the

1304
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 2: sixty two governor's election. They had him buried and dead,

1305
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: but he came back. But Trump, I mean, you look

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: at it. They threw everything but the kitchen sink at him,

1307
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 2: law fair, lawsuits, allegations, everything, and he still won.

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: So that's what I think. And what do you think

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01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: about that?

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 13: I mean, he's still president. There's nothing stopping him as

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 13: of right now.

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01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 6: And you know, it.

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01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 13: Seems like ninety percent of the peace deal Zlansky just

1314
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 13: said this morning. And if he gets that, that's a

1315
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 13: huge win for Trump. You know, this all leads right

1316
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 13: into twenty twenty six midterms, which is going to be

1317
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 13: a battle.

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01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 3: Yep, no question about it.

1319
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five was a good year for the Democrats.

1320
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more.

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01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: Okay, moving right along here, loser of the year, I

1322
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: will go first on that. Nah, this one was a

1323
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: little bit difficult, but I got Kamala Harris in my

1324
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: humble opinion. No business being vice president, she was a

1325
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: DEI pick for that even more so, no business being

1326
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: president of the United States, no ideas, independent ideas. You know,

1327
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: she would not let you know where she stood on

1328
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 2: the issues she thought that would stand up, and not

1329
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: able to string a sentence together. So and she's got

1330
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: that annoying cackle. So that's my loser of the year.

1331
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 2: How about you, Kevin.

1332
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with Andrew Como. Yeah, he lost.

1333
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 13: He lost, not once, but life burned kind of every

1334
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 13: bridge that he ever had built and in a lot

1335
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,440
Speaker 13: of ways gave way to the next superstar in politics.

1336
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna go with Andrew Como as the loser

1337
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 9: of the year.

1338
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: Okay, do you see him running for any office in

1339
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: the future.

1340
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 13: I mean, he's lost two elections in a row and

1341
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 13: he had to resign from governor. That ship sailed, So

1342
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 13: I think him and his twenty three sexual assault allegations

1343
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 13: are over with.

1344
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 9: Well, I don't think he's coming back.

1345
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,440
Speaker 2: There will always be a place on CNN and MSNBC

1346
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: now for people like that. Okay, the Worst Week in

1347
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: Politics award. You get to go first on this one, Kevin.

1348
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 13: I mean, I think we have to go with what's

1349
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 13: happening right now with Governor Wallas. I think that's been

1350
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 13: the worst week nationally now. I mean, you're looking at

1351
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 13: nine billion possibly fraud. The other one I would go

1352
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 13: with is probably the Doge.

1353
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 9: When that happened. Those are probably the two worst weeks.

1354
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 9: A lot of wasteful spending and just people are like,

1355
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 9: what is going on?

1356
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: The only thing and I got the same thing, Tim Wallas.

1357
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 2: The only thing I'd posit with Doge. There is a

1358
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: lot of money saved too, but boy Walts, it all

1359
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: came crashing down for him just a couple of weeks

1360
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: ago and really this week. So I've got him for

1361
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: the Worst week ahead. Okay, this one, I like the WTF.

1362
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: We all know what that means. WTF moment of the year.

1363
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 2: What makes you? What made you say this can't be real? Okay,

1364
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: my turn to go first. My recipient of that award

1365
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: is the no one in particular, but that video that

1366
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: the Democrats put out, the fighting video where you got

1367
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: all these I think it was all women.

1368
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 3: There might have been a thrown in there, you know the.

1369
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: Video there they got their fish bawled up and they're

1370
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: doing it to music. It was just it was cringe worthy.

1371
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 2: That's my pick for the WTF moment of the year.

1372
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: How about you.

1373
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with a funny one. I'm gonna go

1374
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 9: with Curtis c While.

1375
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 13: I'm going back to the New York Mayor's race when

1376
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 13: every time he got interviewed, he would just say he

1377
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 13: was shot seven times in the back of his cab.

1378
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 9: It was always a good it was always a good chuckle.

1379
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 9: So that's my Is this real? That's what I would

1380
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 9: go with, curtse c Wall.

1381
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You know I follow that stuff and

1382
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that. Okay, this is a good

1383
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: one too. The Overexposed Award. What issue or person did

1384
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 2: we hear way too much about in the year twenty

1385
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: twenty five? I think it's my turn to go first.

1386
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: For me, it's Jimmy Kimmel, who cares about him? And

1387
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: really late night talk show hosts in general. I think

1388
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: we heard way too much from them. If you go

1389
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: back in history, Johnny Carson, the most popular talks late

1390
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 2: night talk show host. You never knew what his politics were.

1391
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: He'd hit hit a Democrat. One he basically stayed away

1392
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: from politics, but he'd hit a Democrat, and then the

1393
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: next night he'd hit a Republican. So I think those

1394
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: guys kime on the rest him way way over exposed.

1395
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 3: What say you, Kevin Burton?

1396
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 9: Oh this is this is a good one. Damn, I

1397
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 9: can't think over exposed. I am going to go with

1398
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 9: Thomas Massey, you know, yeah.

1399
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean, well, he's from Kentucky, and you know about

1400
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 2: Kentucky too.

1401
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with that that,

1402
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 13: you know, for being one of four hundred and thirty five,

1403
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 13: we hear a lot from the congressman.

1404
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna go with Thomas Massey as there exposed Award.

1405
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: Okay, when we do a substantive session conversation, I'm gonna

1406
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: ask you about that race too, because obviously Trump is

1407
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: backing his opponent. I like this one too. This is

1408
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: kind of a serious one. Under at least I took

1409
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: it seriously under the radar winner. I have Marco Rubio,

1410
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: Secretary of State. You know, the guy's quiet gets the

1411
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 2: job done. I think he is probably one of the

1412
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: few in the Trump administration that even the mainstream media

1413
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: seems to leave him alone. He secured the ceasefire in

1414
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:42,759
Speaker 2: the Middle East. He secured increased NATO commitment from their

1415
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 2: wallets the NATO countries other than US, I say, the

1416
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 2: guys under the radar Marco Rubio. Many consider him potential

1417
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: candidate for president in twenty twenty eight.

1418
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 3: So that's my pick. How about you?

1419
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 13: This might not be under the race our winner, but

1420
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 13: it's definitely a winner of the year. You have to

1421
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 13: go with Gavin Newsom for the simple fact that twelve

1422
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 13: months ago he was a joking Democratic politics and now

1423
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 13: he has gone to the front runner of being one

1424
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 13: of the nominees.

1425
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:15,959
Speaker 9: For the two major parties.

1426
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 13: So in a twelve month span, he went from he

1427
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 13: looks like the American psycho character to being the only

1428
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 13: person in the Democratic Party he was quote unquote stood

1429
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 13: up to Trump with Prop fifty and things like that.

1430
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 13: He's positioned himself probably the best out of any candidate

1431
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 13: for twenty twenty eight outside of Jadie Vance.

1432
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 3: Now I hear you. I hear you on that.

1433
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: Kamala I think at most polls has a ten point

1434
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 2: lead on him, but it's way way, way early. I

1435
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 2: don't agree with anything he says or does, but I

1436
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: think you're probably right on that one.

1437
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 3: This one I gotta take a powder on. I couldn't.

1438
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of anything most online, least real life.

1439
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 3: It's a great award, which.

1440
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: Debate was bigger on social media than it is in reality.

1441
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: I came up with nothing on that, Kevin. I hope

1442
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: you ended up with somebody.

1443
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 13: I mean, unfortunately, it was what happened in Cincinnati.

1444
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 9: You talked about this before that.

1445
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 13: You know, there was a lot of chatter, but Democrats

1446
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 13: still swept. There was really no change, and it was

1447
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 13: all who just kind of hearsay.

1448
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: You know what.

1449
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 2: Even though I didn't make a pick on that, I

1450
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: can't argue with that. Again, as we talked about before,

1451
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: it was good old fashioned butt whipping.

1452
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 3: Okay, moving right along here.

1453
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 2: Buzzword of the year a phrase that politicians should retire immediately.

1454
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 3: I think I get to go first.

1455
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: I've got more than one on this reimagining. Anytime you

1456
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 2: hear that negative connotations.

1457
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 3: In my humble opinion.

1458
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Triggering same way, privilege, same way, probably the biggest one

1459
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: food insecurity. I think we can do without all of

1460
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,799
Speaker 2: those phrases. What say you, Kevin, I'm.

1461
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 9: Gonna say the Deafa suit.

1462
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 13: We both parties make it up as they go. No

1463
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 13: party really actually cares.

1464
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 9: The closest we got was Bill Clinton thirty years ago. Yep,

1465
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 9: the deficit.

1466
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 13: Both parties use it as a punchline when they're you know,

1467
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 13: not in the White House.

1468
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna go with the deficit.

1469
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good one. And you know,

1470
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 2: I know I got a few years on you. It's

1471
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: gonna be long after I'm dead and gone, I think.

1472
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 2: But at some point, at some point, we are going

1473
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: to have to pay the piper on this one. And

1474
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: you know, I worry about my kids and my kids'

1475
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 2: kids on that because it's just it's not sustainable. At

1476
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: some point we're gonna have to do something. I like

1477
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: this one. Number nine.

1478
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you had something to say.

1479
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 9: Oh no, I totally agree. But you know, both both

1480
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 9: parties will use the.

1481
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 13: Checkbook as much as they can, and when it's time

1482
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 13: for the check to be due, they're usually out of office.

1483
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: Yep, and there's going to be some pretty severe consequences

1484
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: at some point on it. And again it is a

1485
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: multi party problem. Okay, this is a good one. Thanksgiving

1486
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Table Band Award. Which topic should be banned from family dinners?

1487
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: I think it might be my turn for me. It's

1488
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: pretty simple, and then in some ways kind of live

1489
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 2: in it. Any topic that touches on politics, period, period.

1490
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: There's enough to discuss at the family dinner table, and

1491
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: you can leave politics out of it because nine times

1492
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: out of ten somebody's going to be pot What do you.

1493
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 9: Think I'm going to add religion to that? But yeah, yes, yeah,

1494
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 9: you know, just enjoy.

1495
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 13: Time with your family because you don't know how long

1496
01:26:58,840 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 13: you got.

1497
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: It ain't work, it's just not worth it. Okay. Last,

1498
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 2: but not least, the Looking Ahead Award. What next year

1499
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: would what next year will be? Will it be crazier

1500
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: or just different than twenty twenty five? Your thoughts?

1501
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 13: I mean, I think it will be crazy because it's midterm,

1502
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 13: but it's also the world we live in.

1503
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 9: Now, so in a lot of ways, kind of the

1504
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 9: status quo.

1505
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 13: But just maybe you know, twenty twenty six edition, so

1506
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 13: you know everyone is going to be riled up. Forty

1507
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 13: nine point nine percent of the people will be mad.

1508
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 6: Yep, it is.

1509
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 9: It's just the way it goes.

1510
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: And you know what, I kind of got the same thing.

1511
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: I think it'll be just a little different twenty twenty eight.

1512
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: On the other hand, that will be crazy. I mean,

1513
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: who knows what you're going to get there and who

1514
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: knows who you're going to get there. I think the

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01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 2: early betting would be on the Republican side. Vice President

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01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 2: jd Vance seems like he's kind of trying to clear

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01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: the field. Marco Rubio has been mentioned as well. Now,

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01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 2: I heard something a couple of weeks ago, Kevin. I

1519
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 2: don't know where I heard it, but whatever, whoever or

1520
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: wherever it was, it was someone or something with some

1521
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: credibility that apparently the Vice President jd Vance and Marco

1522
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 2: Rubio have made a deal that Marco would accept the

1523
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 2: number two spot because he's young enough to at some

1524
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: point run for president of the United States. I don't know,

1525
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I do think if I had to

1526
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 2: bet the ranch, it would be jd Vance and probably

1527
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom for the Democrats.

1528
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 3: What do you think, I mean?

1529
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 9: I think if you asked me.

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01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 13: Today, those would be the two people I would you

1531
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 13: know better coke on and then from there, you know,

1532
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 13: you're you have a fighter's chance of winning. So for Rubio,

1533
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 13: you know, I want to make a lot of sense

1534
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 13: to trying to primary jd Vance. So yeah, that that

1535
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 13: rumor makes sense.

1536
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And I really do believe what I

1537
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 2: said about Marco Rubio. Man, I was a little bit

1538
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 2: dum sketching my head on the pick itself. But man,

1539
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 2: he's applied himself to that job, doesn't say crazy things.

1540
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 2: Trump really seems to respect him, He doesn't give him

1541
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: any grief, and kind of stays out of his way.

1542
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 3: So that will be an interesting year. Okay, one last thing.

1543
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Are we going to have a Republican sweep of the

1544
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 2: statewide offices in Ohio in twenty twenty six?

1545
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 9: Ooh, that is a great question.

1546
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 13: I think I'm actually you know, they hold all of

1547
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 13: them now, it's a blue year.

1548
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 9: I think the Republicans they're going to be well funded.

1549
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 13: I think Governor and maybe some of the down ballots

1550
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 13: like treasure would be the races to watch.

1551
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 9: I'm going to go that.

1552
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,759
Speaker 13: I think Republicans out of the we'll lose one, yep, one.

1553
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 9: Of the five. I think Democrats will pick up one.

1554
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 3: It will be interesting. Kevin. I really appreciate your input.

1555
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 3: This was fun.

1556
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 2: If it's okay with you, I'd like to make this

1557
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 2: an annual thing.

1558
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 9: I'm good with that. Let's do it.

1559
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we'll be talking. Thanks again, Kevin, Thanks Mike.

1560
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin Burton talking about both of us the End

1561
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 2: of the Year Politics Award.

1562
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of fun.

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01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1564
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that young man is keyed in.

1565
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 2: Like I said, on both sides, he mentioned the situation

1566
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 2: with Massey over in Kentucky. I think it was just yesterday,

1567
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 2: the person who's announced that he's running against him in

1568
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 2: the primary, that the president is backing again. I forget

1569
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: his name. They're talking about that already. That will be

1570
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 2: a fun one to watch. Hey, we're out of time

1571
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: on this segment, but when we get back, we're gonna

1572
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: get serious. For the last segment, we're going to talk

1573
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 2: to jud Dunning about Israel and how we need moral

1574
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 2: clarity on that issue. And boy, it's one that I

1575
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 2: feel pretty strongly about. I think jud does as well.

1576
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 2: So we'll do that when we get back Mike allen

1577
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 2: In for Sloaney's seven hundred WLW eleven thirty seven News

1578
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 2: Radio seven hundred WLW Mike allen In for Scott Sloan

1579
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: on the first day of twenty twenty six. You know,

1580
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,839
Speaker 2: as we head into twenty twenty six under President Trump,

1581
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: my next guest writes that we kind of have a

1582
01:31:55,280 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: renewed America where moral clarity matters again. And you know,

1583
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 2: this modern trend of fashionable bandwagon anti Semitism, which I

1584
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: do not understand at all where that came from is

1585
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 2: rooted in a dull haze of dangerous historical stupidity. Boy,

1586
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: that is true and anti meritocratic delusion.

1587
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 3: Here to talk about it is mister Judd Dunning.

1588
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: He is a passionate and proud Los ANGELESO businessman, former

1589
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: entertainer and politico since nineteen ninety three.

1590
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 3: He's the author of the new Newsmax book.

1591
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 2: And I'm going to get this thirteen and a half

1592
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: reasons why not to be a liberal and how to

1593
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: enlighten others?

1594
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 3: Here is jud Dunning.

1595
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: Jud thank you so much for taking time out of

1596
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 2: your New Year's day to talk to us.

1597
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 7: What a better way to start to do than talking

1598
01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 7: about freedom and philosophy, religion, politics in life, a New

1599
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 7: Year's Day, buddy, thanks for having me.

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01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 3: It's my pleasure.

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01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 4: You know.

1602
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 2: I'll just say right from the get go, I mean,

1603
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 2: I've been around a while, but I do not understand.

1604
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 2: I really don't have an understanding of why in the

1605
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty five now twenty twenty six, we are

1606
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: dealing with anti Semitism in the United States of America.

1607
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 3: It absolutely floors me.

1608
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 7: Jud Yeah, it's very interesting, interesting time historically. There's actually

1609
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 7: a lot of information here. And after I wrote this,

1610
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 7: I'd say, one of the top one hundred rabbis in

1611
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 7: the world like called me in.

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01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 9: The middle of the night, provincial run me.

1613
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 7: So I'm going to talk about that, okay, because it's

1614
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,520
Speaker 7: very interesting. So, you know, we look at antha Semitism.

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01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 7: There's actually two forms, right. There's there's si era perpetuated

1616
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 7: jew hatred, which is what the Arabs have adopted. Actually

1617
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 7: that's just that's that's outright jew Anti Semitism means, you know,

1618
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 7: anti Jewish. But really, if you look at it, where

1619
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 7: did it start? It's it's we're all in this media

1620
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 7: society moving quickly and people are reading things and they're

1621
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 7: trusting what they're thinking, and there's no philosophical deep dive.

1622
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 7: But is where does anti Semitism come from? Because in

1623
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 7: the back in the period of Alexander Alexandria, Jews were

1624
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 7: another group. There were other groups, but there were a

1625
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 7: lot of other groups.

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01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 9: It wasn't just them.

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01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 7: They didn't carry the burden of the world through being

1628
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 7: targeted for resentment, hate.

1629
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 9: And the you know, being willed to death.

1630
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 7: But where it came from, and American Christians to know this,

1631
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 7: It actually came from John eight four four you are

1632
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 7: the father of your devil. So it has a long

1633
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 7: history of being reused begainst Jews and weekly you know,

1634
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 7: and and we forget that it was perpetual, perpetuated by John.

1635
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:50,480
Speaker 7: Interesting about the disciples, right, if you really understand Christianity,

1636
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 7: uh Jesus at the time, the disciples, if you take

1637
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 7: a deep dive, like John was the one that was

1638
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 7: Christ is Christ is God, and the other disciples were Jews, Like, hey, I.

1639
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 9: Don't care, He's amazing.

1640
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 7: We didn't have the Sharia laws split over a simple

1641
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 7: you know, a theological theory. They were just glad to

1642
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 7: have him. But John was very aggressive what he put

1643
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 7: out there, you know about about the pasting, and so

1644
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 7: that was that was adopted and used and brutalized and targeted. Now,

1645
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 7: the main thing that people need to.

1646
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 9: Remember, right is did we evolve?

1647
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 7: And and the Church came out nostra tatte right in

1648
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 7: October twenty eighth, nineteen sixty five. Is the Vatican two

1649
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 7: not stunted six sixty two, And this is the Catholics

1650
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 7: came out and said.

1651
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 4: We were wrong.

1652
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 9: We you know, there was a lot going on in

1653
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 9: that era.

1654
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,799
Speaker 7: You know, it wasn't simply the Jews that put Christ

1655
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 7: down and then all stuff I can if I.

1656
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 9: Can give you a little.

1657
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 7: Bit more color for for our you know, for people

1658
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 7: that know the Bible, Daniel and Adeta, Daniel and Zeta,

1659
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 7: the prophetic text, well, how many people were claiming to

1660
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 7: be Jesus.

1661
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 6: Of the era?

1662
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 9: Historian studies like.

1663
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 7: Twenty six people know, it was not an easy It

1664
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 7: was not an easy time to go through that, and

1665
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 7: history tends to be beaten up. And then so if

1666
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 7: you go then so that existed, and that really occurred,

1667
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 7: and it was dulled down and America was very theologically dogmatic,

1668
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 7: black and white in the nineteen thirties, you know, but

1669
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 7: Communism was in vogue, and so it was like extreme hardcore,

1670
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 7: you know, tent talk Christianity, a lot of shame, you know,

1671
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of beauty too, obviously, right, there's.

1672
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 9: Goodness in fighting the dark. But for as we moved.

1673
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 7: Forward and we got to you know, less educated people,

1674
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 7: then we moved forward, we got to you know, the war,

1675
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,719
Speaker 7: the Holocaust, the Great Loss, and at that point, right.

1676
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 9: The Jews were put back.

1677
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 7: And then into you know, in nineteen forty eight, into

1678
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 7: Israel at the time. There by the way, there technically

1679
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 7: is no Palestine.

1680
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 9: There never was.

1681
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 7: It was a region like the Rockies, right, These were

1682
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 7: Israeli Arabs and the era. So they went in and

1683
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 7: they wanted to take over and you know, take back Israel.

1684
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 7: And there was a shame in the Islamic world called

1685
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 7: the nakba, and the noakma means catastrophe. So this is

1686
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,440
Speaker 7: it's commonly refers to the displaced in dispossession of Palestinians

1687
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 7: in the nineteen forty eight War of Palestine. Right now,

1688
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 7: the old generation saw it as the worst thing. They

1689
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 7: were beat by shopkeepers and tailors that was a shame.

1690
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 7: We were beaten by shop tate keepers and tailors and

1691
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 7: is anti sensets in its own nature. Well, that generation

1692
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 7: is dying. And there's what there's a lot of people

1693
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 7: right now who are signing the Abraham Accords because they're

1694
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 7: you know, resentful older Islamic, Muslim, Islam, Saudi Arabian, et cetera. Grandparents.

1695
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 7: The generation is dying. You have a whole generation is dying,

1696
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 7: dying off. So it's actually a lot of areas in

1697
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 7: that area are calming down. But the the intelligence levels

1698
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 7: and the training from the Nakba forward there they did

1699
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 7: not adopt like biblical anti Semitism. The Middle East adopted

1700
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 7: uh Middle East adopted the Nakba, which is and then

1701
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 7: they adopted Hitler extermination.

1702
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 9: Propaganda and media.

1703
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 7: So if somebody is antisemic today, you have to separate it.

1704
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 7: There was the original and the forgiven right, right, and

1705
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 7: then like we were completely wrong. Pope was very clear

1706
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 7: to the world and at that time and then over

1707
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 7: here you have the Nakba, the catastrophy, and the Hitler extermination,

1708
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 7: jew hatred that is from the Arabs, right, So if

1709
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 7: you look at these sources and then you have this

1710
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 7: other one that David Dennis Frager puts out there, and

1711
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 7: I want to say, there's like a.

1712
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 9: Third point and then I'll come back.

1713
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 7: Sure, so on the on the third, But Dennis Fraker says,

1714
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 7: we are hated because we are great. Well there, if

1715
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 7: you look at the Jews are the chosen people, if

1716
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 7: you actually the Torah, they were chosen to suffer the

1717
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 7: refinement of the Ten Commandments. And this teaching in the

1718
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,919
Speaker 7: world Christ comes out and it goes viral for us Christians.

1719
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 9: You know, it's like Jesus.

1720
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 7: Went viral, you know, I mean took Judaism viral. I

1721
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 7: go to both, by the way, I have Jewish kids,

1722
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 7: and I go to the church.

1723
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 9: In both because that's their faith. So I go.

1724
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 7: I went to church and temple straight for twelve years.

1725
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 7: So I understand the theories of all this. So this

1726
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 7: anti Semitism is really a dull stupidity that came up

1727
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 7: after Gaza that was hijacked by the left. Now interesting,

1728
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 7: you know, the clans started by a bunch of Democrats

1729
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 7: and mostly Scottish guys in Tennessee, right, and at some

1730
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Speaker 7: point it's up to five million people in the United States.

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Speaker 7: We're in this horrible organization.

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Speaker 9: Right, and now you have this post gaza.

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Speaker 7: You know, liberal empathetic because war is hell.

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Speaker 9: You have these people that are like.

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Speaker 7: Oh, you know, I hate the Jews. Jews run Hollywood,

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Speaker 7: Jews run We'll talk about the Jews running Hollywood. I'm

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01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 7: gonna rest for a second. When did Stephen When did

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Speaker 7: Steven Spielberg start making movies?

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Speaker 9: Eight?

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01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 7: He worked his tail off American exceptionalism.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 7: You know why were Jews running Hollywood Because they were

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01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 7: in Vaudeville and the Polish hits Russian borders, and they

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01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 7: came over at the right time, and they put a

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Speaker 7: camera on Vaudeville.

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01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 9: They were fundamentally here.

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01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 7: At the intersection. That's why they're influential on holidays. The

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01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 7: answerdamte Semitism is oh, that's interesting, tell me the facts,

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01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 7: because if you start targeting people because they're excellent, it's

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Speaker 7: not even about that.

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01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 9: It's either about the knocked.

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Speaker 7: But the shame and the hitler like Jew hatred or

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01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 7: over here it's the Christian, the uneducated Christian christ phills

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01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 7: John Ate right, and both of them one is dying out,

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Speaker 7: the other.

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Speaker 9: One has been forgiven.

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Speaker 7: But liberals, the Corporatus media system, every ding after God

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01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 7: that they took God's Have you seen a lot of

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01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 7: pictures of Russia in Ukraine? No, that war is not

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01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 7: even being put in our face, even though there's a.

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Speaker 9: Lot of horrible loss.

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Speaker 5: Stay in a day out.

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01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 7: Because it said the liberal machine, right, we saw the

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Speaker 7: horror of gods and gods.

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Speaker 9: It was horrible, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 7: It was just as bad as October seventh. And if

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Speaker 7: I lived in North Carolina and South Carolina came over

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Speaker 7: and did that to my family, there would not be

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Speaker 7: a South Carolina, you know.

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Speaker 9: And that's that's what happened.

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Speaker 7: And so they've weaponized this, I mean, and I gotta

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01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 7: tell you, like I've done the work to know, and

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01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 7: Americans have to do the work. Americans that heard this

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01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 7: this cast or here, you have to do the work

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01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 7: understand the Nakba and the Hitler like Jew hatred, which

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01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 7: is extermination of a race, because that's not anti Semitism,

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01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 7: that's moral inversion, that's killing people for your own agenda,

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01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 7: does not about the people. It's a projection, right. And

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01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 7: then over here is the you know, the knakma, that's

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01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,839
Speaker 7: the stuff. And then there's this weaponized people and liberals

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01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 7: are the people that have run into this. They're using

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01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 7: they're you know, they're using like they use color, they

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01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 7: used trams, they used immigrants, They're using people that were

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Speaker 7: mostly affected by Gaza, and they stoke this day.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know that brings up a question I

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01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you. I mean, you got these kids

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Speaker 2: on the college campus. You see them carrying the Palestinian flag,

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01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 2: you see them carrying anti Semitic messages. I wonder, I mean,

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Speaker 2: are these young people being taught anything about the Holocaust?

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Speaker 2: Either grade school, high school, probably not a higher ed college.

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Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't and you're doing a great job

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01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 2: of explaining it. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 2: I just bought, and I can recommend to you or

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01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 2: anybody else a book by It's called Hostage by a

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01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 2: survivor of the recent hostage situation, Eli Sharabi, and what

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01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 2: they did to those people Hamas is just beyond belief

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01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 2: and to how can a young person, and this is

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01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 2: all pretty basic stuff, how can they buy into that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just hard for me to wrap my

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Speaker 3: head around.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, weaponized flip right, you know, there's four way

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01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 7: I always say this is four ways to attack somebody

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01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 7: in debate and right, it's like Trump is in vaccism, racism,

1804
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 7: and climatism.

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01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 6: Right.

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01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 7: And then you create shame, and.

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01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 9: Then you create a dialogue.

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01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 7: Then you hammer somebody with facts, you flip it over

1809
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 7: and you move quick, and it doesn't matter whether right

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01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 7: or wrong. And that that's what's happened in media, not

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01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 7: talk radio like right now, you know TV, you you

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01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 7: can hammer people pretty quick.

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01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 9: Radio you people have to think a little bit more.

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01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 9: But that's that's why I do it.

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Speaker 7: That's why I thank you for fighting service to all

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01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 7: these good Americans. But I think the I think they're

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01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 7: just it's TikTok mentality, right. I mean you just get

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01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 7: information and it hits your heart, your emotion manipulated, and

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01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 7: you flip and scrolls the next thing, you know, get

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Speaker 7: back to your latte. And one of the facts, which

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01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 7: is interesting, I think those are like so October seventh

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Speaker 7: was twelve hundred pep on two hundred and fifty hostages and.

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Speaker 9: We saw you know, rape, baby, beheading. It was as

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Speaker 9: dark as they got.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was a celebratory execution. And then prior to that,

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01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 7: the thing other people forget there were more than nineteen

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Speaker 7: hundred rockets.

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Speaker 9: That's my article prior to that.

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Speaker 7: So you know, South Carolina has now lobbed nineteen thousand

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Speaker 7: rockets over the marl period of time, not only weeks

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Speaker 7: and months. And I've gone over to South Carolina. I'm

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01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 7: just using an analogy. Those are tuning in.

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Speaker 9: I've got over to South Where are the world's moment?

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01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 7: What is So they've launched nineteen thousand rockets besides October seventh,

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Speaker 7: and they've also killed fifty to twenty one civilians have

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01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 7: been murdered since in the area, and nine and thirty

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01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 7: four in October seventh. And so if you look at

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01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 7: the amount of attacks, the amount of and they've also

1840
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 7: tried to make peace, like six or seven times in

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01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 7: Israel has incivility offered it And they even gave up

1842
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 7: gods at one point, Right, I gave it to them.

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01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 7: Remember this, Everybody was freaked out. It's like, hey, they

1844
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 7: gave them.

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Speaker 2: That area, don't I don't think people realize that, Judge,

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01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you're absolutely right.

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01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 9: Is that interesting? People forget it?

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01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 7: Like, wait a minute, it's two states, one state solution,

1849
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 7: one stay solution. Well, wait a minute, they gave that

1850
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 7: to them to give them peace, and people like, oh,

1851
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 7: they just gave them some degerent lands.

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01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 9: That's what do you mean Trump wants it?

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01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And all that being said in a serious note,

1854
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 7: So understanding what Anthise semintism is and that you're actually

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01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 7: adopting g hatred from the Nazis which had nothing to

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01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 7: do with the Bible really right, it was just you know, weaponized,

1857
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 7: And then you're adopting this rage of shame from the

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01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:50,959
Speaker 7: Middle East. And then you're deciding as judge and jury

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01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 7: what it's like for this you know, this people placed

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01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 7: by the UN, placed by the international after war through

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01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 7: collective agreement, and you're decide, you know, judging people and

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01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 7: then making simplest You know, it's interesting too because I

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01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 7: have a theory and my theory is also partially correct,

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01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 7: and Dennis talks about it. Why are you Why are

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01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 7: jew Is pretty exceptional? Why do they stand out? Well,

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01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 7: one of the Polish Yiddish things was really real. There

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01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 7: was a sense of humor of vieil was really right there.

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01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:19,679
Speaker 9: They came over at the right time.

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Speaker 7: It's like in America and Los Angeles, Persians are really successful.

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01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 7: They came over nineteen seventy. I was money after the

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01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 7: earthquakes at the right time.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:30,879
Speaker 9: And they had money to move because.

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01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 7: They were fleeing a democratic regime.

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01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 9: And they had repressed capital. And they came in here

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01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 9: when Ali was super cheap.

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01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 7: And there's some of the greatest owners in the area.

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01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 7: It's history, it's time. So there's always a reason behind

1879
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 7: the excellence that people look deeper and so anti. My

1880
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 7: article went into anti Semitism and anti excellence, so I was,

1881
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 7: I said, and I quoted in there. You know the

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01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 7: the likes of the Bible, the ill go to. Sorry,

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01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 7: we can't close to buy I love it.

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01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 9: I can't, I can't.

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Speaker 3: We only have about two minutes left too. Unfortunately, sure a.

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Speaker 9: Great I'll give you this. Nor do people light a.

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01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 7: Lamp and put it on their basket with on a

1888
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 7: stand and it.

1889
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,759
Speaker 9: Gives light to all the house in the same way, let.

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01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 7: Your light shine before others, so that they may see

1891
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 7: your good works and give glory to your father who

1892
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 7: is in heaven, Matthew. And then Reagan said, I've spoken

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01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 7: of a.

1894
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 9: Shining city, politic city.

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01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 7: Built lots stronger the emotions. So the point is is,

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01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 7: even if.

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01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 9: There is envy.

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01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 7: Really, what the American way calls us forward to is

1899
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 7: to celebrate it. And they are really amazing and dynamic people.

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01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 7: They deserve to be respected. Anti Semitism deserves to be

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01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 7: shared and understood that it's proper level and it needs

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01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 7: to be stopped. And it's an honor and pleasure to

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01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 7: have this American conversation with you today, sir.

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01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 2: And you know what, I really appreciate it too. I

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01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 2: mean again, at my age and where I am in life.

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01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 2: It's the last thing I thought we would be dealing

1907
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 2: with in this country.

1908
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 3: But we are.

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01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you, how do people the article

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01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 2: It's great standing with Israel, moral clarity in an age

1912
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 2: of manufactured confusion, and I'm gonna get my hands on

1913
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half reasons why not to be a

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01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 2: liberal and how to enlighten others?

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Speaker 3: How do people get a copy of that?

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01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 9: Thank you so much?

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Speaker 7: If you my name is jud Dunning, ju d D

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Speaker 7: D three d's two ends jud Dunning, Judd Dounting three

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Speaker 7: D two ends dot com. I mean on x is

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01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 7: the fastest way to get into my little universe, and

1921
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 7: you can follow us at Newsmax. I have an article there,

1922
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Speaker 7: just juddunning.

1923
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 9: Newsmax and follow our articles there.

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01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 7: And this one you're going to get through XDO because

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01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 7: I do long form articles on a word press and

1926
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 7: then you have to do about a thousand words for

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Speaker 7: the newspapers.

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Speaker 9: So this is the long form one.

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Speaker 7: But last point, I am rewriting it because I got

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Speaker 7: ripped on by the rabbi.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, jud thank you so much. This has

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Speaker 2: been really informative. I appreciate it, and.

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Speaker 7: You too, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 9: I have a great day, have you here, everybody?

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Speaker 3: You too?

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Speaker 2: Thanks jud All Right, man, I'll tell you what kind

1937
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Speaker 2: of heavy stuff I guess for New Year's Day, but

1938
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 2: stuff that needs to be said, and you know you

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01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 2: all are probably sick and tired of me saying it.

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01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,839
Speaker 2: I just don't get it, and Judd has helped somewhat,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. It needs to be stamped out

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Speaker 2: Anti Semitism period. All Right, we are out of here.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank my excellent producer, Dave Keaton. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Mike Allen in for Slowe's seven hundred

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Speaker 2: WLW