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Speaker 2: talking about yesterday's thirty four twelve lost to the Steelers,
Speaker 2: looking ahead of those nine and two red hot New
Speaker 2: England Patriots on Sunday, Lance McAllister, Dave Lapham and Dave.
Speaker 2: The day began with coming off the buy the hopes
Speaker 2: and dreams of getting to three and zero in the
Speaker 2: division and making things really interesting and buying a little
Speaker 2: bit of time for Joe Burrow's eventual return. And unfortunately,
Speaker 2: as it plays out, it produces a lot of frustration
Speaker 2: and a lot of questions now about where this team
Speaker 2: goes after losing thirty four to twelve.
Speaker 3: Well, you're exactly right, Lance, comed up pretty darn well there.
Speaker 3: I mean I think that the big deal is, like
Speaker 3: you mentioned, a bunch of questions, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: what's the future of this football team, not just for
Speaker 3: this season, but what's the future for the football team
Speaker 3: for next year, the year after, you know, the short
Speaker 3: term future of the football team. What about the coaches,
Speaker 3: what about the head coach, Zach Taylor? What about assistant coaches?
Speaker 3: Who's safe, who's not a lot of questions that need
Speaker 3: to be answered and ironed out right now.
Speaker 2: Boy, And what was really I think disappointing was going
Speaker 2: into the buy. So much is made about the opportunity
Speaker 2: to rest up, do you self, scout, you work on
Speaker 2: some things, and yet you look yesterday, and I think
Speaker 2: it's a fair question to say that was the performance
Speaker 2: coming out of the bye. I think there was an
Speaker 2: expectation there would be more from this team.
Speaker 3: Agreed, you know, I think you make another valid point there.
Speaker 3: I mean, you have a long time to work on
Speaker 3: things that have not gone well. And uh, you know
Speaker 3: you players understand that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Everybody watches tape. The players watch tape, the coaches watch tape,
Speaker 3: the organization members watch tape, the owner, the general manager,
Speaker 3: everybody is looking at state tape and scourring the tape
Speaker 3: and trying to figure out what is wrong. Where where
Speaker 3: is it disjointed? Where's it where's the synapse? I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's just not the message isn't being carried through.
Speaker 3: So you have all that time to work on it.
Speaker 3: You feel pretty good about what you're doing. You feel
Speaker 3: pretty good about playing against the Patriots, the Steelers, I
Speaker 3: should say Patriots, the upcoming the Pittsburgh Steelers, who you
Speaker 3: already had beaten, as you say, have a chance to go,
Speaker 3: you know, two and oh against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and
Speaker 3: three and oh in the division, and all of it
Speaker 3: goes up and smoke boy.
Speaker 2: It's just one of those that classic Murphy's law. It's like,
Speaker 2: if it's one thing, if it's not one thing, it's another.
Speaker 2: On a day where the defense played better, certainly there
Speaker 2: were still issues, but on the day they played better,
Speaker 2: your offense only manages one touchdown. In reality, the offense
Speaker 2: allowed two touchdowns with the pick six and then the
Speaker 2: scoop and score off the fumble. It just that's the
Speaker 2: way this thing has unfolded this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in the National Football League, when that dynamic
Speaker 3: happens when you allow to unscripted, unconventional scores and you
Speaker 3: only get one out of your offensive football team. Normally,
Speaker 3: it doesn't end up well for you, and it didn't
Speaker 3: in this case as well.
Speaker 2: Let's get reaction immediately after the game. Here's Dave with
Speaker 2: the coach Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: Tough today coming to Pittsburgh. You knew you were going
Speaker 3: to be playing a really good football team, a sound
Speaker 3: football team. Just didn't didn't work out. What do you
Speaker 3: think with the biggest reasons that didn't win this football game?
Speaker 4: Turner re battle. That's the number one starting point two
Speaker 4: to nothing, two of them led to fourteen points. You're
Speaker 4: rarely going to win in this league when you have
Speaker 4: one for touchdown, two for touchdown is going to really
Speaker 4: set you back, you know. So you an opportunity twenty
Speaker 4: to twelve, you're in field goal range, worst case, you
Speaker 4: feel like you're going to kick a field goal, and
Speaker 4: then Joe's hit as he throws and pick six and
Speaker 4: then turned around with a fumble you know, right away
Speaker 4: on the next one for a touchdowns. So that's not
Speaker 4: winning football. That's not what I was supposed to look like.
Speaker 4: Credit to them for taking advantage of that running away
Speaker 4: with it and again losing the turn of battitude. Nothing's
Speaker 4: the best starting point there.
Speaker 3: Is for that. Yeah, the final score really doesn't dictate
Speaker 3: or show what the game was like. I mean, for
Speaker 3: three quarters it was a battle. I mean a battle
Speaker 3: where I was, you know, fighting for every inch, tooth
Speaker 3: and nail, every inch of the football field. What were
Speaker 3: you thinking? Did you feel like you were not in control,
Speaker 3: but you feel like going to win this football game?
Speaker 4: Absolutely. We've been in a lot of these dog fights
Speaker 4: and had opportunities right until the very last player to
Speaker 4: win the game, So that's not unique. Being down eight
Speaker 4: points felt like at halftime we were in a fine spot.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get the ball start the half, came out,
Speaker 4: scored points and just never never took control of the game.
Speaker 4: There was not a point where we ever took control
Speaker 4: of the game, and they did in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: They took control of it. And that's that's the difference.
Speaker 3: You hold it team to twenty eight third down conversion
Speaker 3: I think it was like twenty eight points six percent
Speaker 3: or something like that Pittsburgh Steelers on third down. Usually
Speaker 3: that is in the winning column of a football game.
Speaker 5: How rare?
Speaker 3: Is it to hold a team to that kind of
Speaker 3: a performance on third down and not win the game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the plan was good. Again, it's it comes down
Speaker 4: to that's great. We got to get a turnover. You know,
Speaker 4: we've had several games now with no turnovers created, and
Speaker 4: offensively we give him fourteen points. That's that's just there's
Speaker 4: no chance you're gonna win that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean turnover third down? What about the running game? Offensively?
Speaker 3: He Chase Brown ran the ball effectively before he ran hard.
Speaker 3: I mean he always does. He gives every effort that
Speaker 3: he has a total effort every snap that he runs
Speaker 3: the football. Other than him, do you feel like the
Speaker 3: running game was proficient enough?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's right now, especially with small JL
Speaker 4: he's the main running point. We're gonna give Taj and
Speaker 4: Kendle reps. We got confidence in those guys, so I
Speaker 4: thought we got way we needed. It's not always going
Speaker 4: to be pretty when you're playing any team in the North.
Speaker 4: To have some you feel really good about their effishing,
Speaker 4: they're explosive, you're gonna have some that are no gains
Speaker 4: or one game and you're just you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: rally behind that because that's just when you're playing a
Speaker 4: great front like they have, that's part of the part
Speaker 4: of the process, and that doesn't catch a soff guard.
Speaker 4: And we just got to handle the next down as
Speaker 4: well as we can.
Speaker 3: I bet when you were traveling to Pittsburgh and thinking
Speaker 3: about this football game, Mason Rudolph wasn't a name that
Speaker 3: was in the top of everybody's mind that he was
Speaker 3: going to come and play in a football game. What
Speaker 3: did you obviously study everybody, everybody scouting department, coach, everybody
Speaker 3: studies everybody. What does Mason Rudolph do to help his
Speaker 3: football team win? Oh, he's a veteran quarterback. He's he's
Speaker 3: been in this building before. We played against last year
Speaker 3: in Tennessee. You just got to managing their offense, you know,
Speaker 3: and they were running the ball well, and he was
Speaker 3: getting the ball in the perimeter. He was getting the
Speaker 3: ball in some nakeds. They didn't try to put too
Speaker 3: much on him, you know, in a windy, cold environment
Speaker 3: where he's coming in the second half, and he did
Speaker 3: a good job managing what they want him to do.
Speaker 3: Everybody in the National Football League has at least two
Speaker 3: so I mean, the season is not over. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's plenty to play for. What do you do to
Speaker 3: make sure that your your football team stays focused and
Speaker 3: takes it one game at a time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we go back to work and we keep fighting.
Speaker 4: And that's that this locker room has been about, through
Speaker 4: thick and thin, and so I trust that that's that's
Speaker 4: the message they've received, that's the message they want to
Speaker 4: receive and follow. I've got full trust that will do that.
Speaker 4: We have to find a way to win a football game.
Speaker 4: That's there's you can't run from that. These these losses
Speaker 4: they take it out of you, you know they do.
Speaker 6: They beat you up.
Speaker 4: But in this profession, you got no choice or professionals,
Speaker 4: we got to bounce back the next day, find a
Speaker 4: way to have a great attitude, fix the things we
Speaker 4: got to fix, and come back ready to fight and
Speaker 4: go find a win. And that's exactly what we're going
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and Tigans are going to get a lot
Speaker 3: of attention every time they play.
Speaker 5: They're great.
Speaker 3: I mean I think they're the best duo of the
Speaker 3: best tandem in football any level of football. Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 3: did a pretty good job. I mean, Jamar and t
Speaker 3: they're going to make plays. They did make plays. But overall,
Speaker 3: I think the Pittsburgh steel has handled things pretty well.
Speaker 3: What did did they do anything difference coverage wise?
Speaker 4: They just weren't going to give you any access. You know,
Speaker 4: they were going to make sure that there was no
Speaker 4: access there. A little bit different than the first time
Speaker 4: we played them. Not to be expected. You didn't expect
Speaker 4: the exact same plan when you played them again and again.
Speaker 5: We just didn't.
Speaker 4: We didn't find a way enough to get points on
Speaker 4: the board early in the game when our defense was
Speaker 4: getting some stops.
Speaker 3: Coach, appreciate your time, as always New York Class Act
Speaker 3: for joining us. I mean, I know this is not
Speaker 3: a happy time for anybody, that's for sure. But I
Speaker 3: know that this football team, like you said, you get
Speaker 3: a bunch of winners, a bunch of professionals, a bunch
Speaker 3: of guys are gonna give you every effort. We'll see
Speaker 3: it up again next week. I appreciate that, Zach Taylor.
Speaker 2: After the game, we are up and running on this
Speaker 2: Monday night, still ahead. We'll hear from Joe Flacco, Gino Stone,
Speaker 2: We'll talk with Barrett Carter, and a whole lot more
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Speaker 2: Blackham sorting through yesterday. We'll look on ahead to the Patriots,
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. Twenty three of forty yesterday, one hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety yards. He was sacked once, threw a touchdown, threw
Speaker 2: a pick unfortunately a pick six quarterback rating of sixty
Speaker 2: eight point six. Here's Joe Flacco after the game.
Speaker 5: Go watch things and clean them up. But obviously, you
Speaker 5: know your thoughts are going to be you know, are
Speaker 5: going to be with you for a little bit, and
Speaker 5: you gotta find a way to move on and watch
Speaker 5: the film and see what it really was, and you know,
Speaker 5: take care of it. Given where the division is, to say,
Speaker 5: feel like huge opportunity potentially and really.
Speaker 8: Gain some momentum out.
Speaker 5: Listen to me, We're halfway through the season. Basically it's
Speaker 5: a little bit more now, but it really is so
Speaker 5: tough to look at it that way. I think it's
Speaker 5: easy to get caught up in that stuff, but you
Speaker 5: know it, I I really try to remove myself from
Speaker 5: those situations and just go play football. And I think
Speaker 5: if you do that, that's when you give yourself the
Speaker 5: best chance to be in the best position you want. Obviously,
Speaker 5: that's there lingering and you know, the opportunity and all
Speaker 5: that stuff, but you got to try to avoid getting
Speaker 5: caught up in those things are you're trying.
Speaker 3: To manage the pain and the shoulder. How much worse
Speaker 3: did he get after?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, that's football. He did a good job.
Speaker 5: He buried me in the turf. But uh but I
Speaker 5: felt good, you know, felt good all game.
Speaker 6: Did they they changed much the way they attacked you?
Speaker 5: Well, I think they made sure that. They probably did
Speaker 5: it more. Just they probably had a couple of guys
Speaker 5: on him more often than they did in the first game.
Speaker 5: And you know, that's why they're a good football team.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: And we knew, we knew they were going to make
Speaker 5: adjustments and come in here and play better than they
Speaker 5: did the first time we played them, and we just
Speaker 5: gotta we gotta match that.
Speaker 6: Too.
Speaker 8: Shady change what they did.
Speaker 5: I listen, I think everything they did we kind of
Speaker 5: had a plan for and and and could see that
Speaker 5: you know, why they were doing it and the fact
Speaker 5: that they were going to do it. You have to
Speaker 5: ask them, I mean in terms of what they feel
Speaker 5: like they can do, and and and you know, I
Speaker 5: know those guys are good players. And anytime you get
Speaker 5: your best players out there, you feel you feel like
Speaker 5: you got a you know, a good thing going.
Speaker 9: Do you feel like there was a miss in terms
Speaker 9: of like when they lose their safety to you was
Speaker 9: in a situation already do the secondary and whatever.
Speaker 5: I just think I just think the way they were
Speaker 5: playing that stuff mattered. Obviously it matters over the long haul.
Speaker 5: But the way they were playing and trying to double
Speaker 5: guys and doing those things and just trying to get
Speaker 5: pressure with their front. I don't think it was one
Speaker 5: of those things where you could, you know, start drawing
Speaker 5: stuff up and take advantage of because guys were out.
Speaker 5: I think they were still sticking to their plan and
Speaker 5: doing what they were gonna do against us.
Speaker 8: You made it so many, you made it so many
Speaker 8: eight teams here when.
Speaker 5: You that they might betting their ground and well no,
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, did these games you know they're gonna
Speaker 5: be battles And even though this looks like a lot,
Speaker 5: it looks really bad. It's one of those typical games
Speaker 5: that you come playing here and all of a sudden
Speaker 5: it breaks loose and it goes the other way. But
Speaker 5: this you felt it today. It was a hard, physical game.
Speaker 5: They you knew they were gonna make it tough, tough
Speaker 5: for it for us, and we just didn't come through
Speaker 5: in those couple of little moments. You know, they got
Speaker 5: to two touchdowns on defense and got everybody excited and
Speaker 5: we're able to pin their ears back and do their thing.
Speaker 5: And you know, that's what this game comes down to.
Speaker 5: It's it's one or two plays that you can look
Speaker 5: back on, and obviously there's more than that and just
Speaker 5: the consistency of it, but there's always those plays, and
Speaker 5: it comes down to just playing winning football and and
Speaker 5: and kind of waiting for your opportunity and you know,
Speaker 5: not letting and not letting yourself get too far out
Speaker 5: ahead of yourself and trying to make things happen when
Speaker 5: they're not going to. And I don't really think we
Speaker 5: were doing that today, but we obviously you know, just
Speaker 5: we weren't able to wait, wait, wait, wait and strike.
Speaker 5: We we made mistakes and they capitalized. I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I don't think so. And you know, I didn't pay
Speaker 5: much attention to it during the game, but like it
Speaker 5: was windy out there, you could tell pregame ball was
Speaker 5: moving around. I don't think I've seen it like that before.
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I, like I said, I don't.
Speaker 5: I think during the game it really didn't end up playing,
Speaker 5: you know, being a huge factor.
Speaker 3: Yours defense.
Speaker 5: But the team I thought they did a lot of
Speaker 5: good things today.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It's just a shame in the way that you know,
Speaker 5: we're kind of not meaging each other right now and
Speaker 5: playing both sides as well as we can at the
Speaker 5: same time.
Speaker 3: So I know, you're out and.
Speaker 8: You're on the sidelines, but the extent that you got
Speaker 8: to see the defensive at all, your eyes different what
Speaker 8: they were doing.
Speaker 5: Well, that looked like they got you know, it looked
Speaker 5: like they were pinning their ears back a little bit
Speaker 5: more and playing with some confidence and playing with some speed,
Speaker 5: so they were able to kind of you know, break
Speaker 5: through the line a little bit and you know, get
Speaker 5: in the backfield a little bit more, and I just
Speaker 5: it just looked like they were playing faster.
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco talking about his performance and defeat yesterday and Dave,
Speaker 2: I don't know that he would never acknowledge it, but
Speaker 2: I wondered at times how much that shoulder was bothering him,
Speaker 2: because he seemed to throw some kind of side arm
Speaker 2: at times, and there weren't a lot of deep shots
Speaker 2: down the field. Again, he's not gonna admit that, and
Speaker 2: he took a shot on that sack as well. I
Speaker 2: wonder how much the shoulder is bothering him at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to figure that it's, you know, some
Speaker 3: sort of an issue. There's he has to be feeling something,
Speaker 3: some sort of pain. I know, there's all kinds of
Speaker 3: ways in today's football to alleviate that pain on game day,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure he's probably taken advantage of some of that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he his throwing mechanics didn't look the same.
Speaker 3: It's throwing motion was was different. Like you said, a
Speaker 3: lot of it a lot of it was flight, dropping
Speaker 3: down and throwing sidearm, you know, And obviously I guess
Speaker 3: that felt more comfortable to him and whatever the anatomy
Speaker 3: or you know, uh uh, the the chart of the
Speaker 3: human body. You know that that that you have to
Speaker 3: you have to look at. I just think I think
Speaker 3: that Joe Flacco could have done better throwing the football
Speaker 3: if if healthy, obviously, but even without health, if the
Speaker 3: Bengals had run the ball more consistently, I think Joe
Speaker 3: Flacco might have been able to take advantage of intermediate
Speaker 3: and deeper routes with play action passing game. And and well,
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers certainly took advantage of it. They ran
Speaker 3: the ball well, uh twenty eight care of the football.
Speaker 3: They they were they were consistent with that. They only
Speaker 3: they threw up thirty one times. We're in at twenty eight.
Speaker 3: That's that's pretty good balance for that offense. And the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers did a pretty good job at the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmens. Their offensive line I thought played a very
Speaker 3: solid sound football game.
Speaker 2: And David, the reality is Joe Flacco's forty years old.
Speaker 2: He's been really good on a magical ride. Yeah, but again,
Speaker 2: he's forty. It wouldn't be fair to say Joe Flacco's
Speaker 2: got to throw for three hundred and fifty every week
Speaker 2: or this offense is not gonna go anywhere. You just
Speaker 2: can't put that on his shoulders. No, no pun intended
Speaker 2: with an injured shoulder. You just can't do that to it.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, it's you know, you've got You've got
Speaker 3: other players that need to step up. Everybody needs to
Speaker 3: support what Joe Flacco is doing. I thought the uh.
Speaker 3: I thought the offensive line was okay for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was, you know, like a scintillating
Speaker 3: effort that wow, look at this, I mean, this is
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame worthy. But I thought they played pretty well.
Speaker 3: I do think that the Pittsburgh Steelers are better in
Speaker 3: sid with their defensive tackles and the interior defensive lineman.
Speaker 3: And I thought the Bengals struggled control on those guys
Speaker 3: pretty well. Hang type more to get to including Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but callister. It's Bengals Line
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Thanks for hanging out with us as
Speaker 2: we talked Bengals football on Bengals Line the Bengals Radio
Speaker 2: Network in seven hundred WLW lance butcallister Dave Lapham thirty
Speaker 2: four to twelve losers to the Steelers yesterday. And the
Speaker 2: other story coming out of that is Jamar Chase. Jamar
Speaker 2: on the field, has three catches for thirty yards, got
Speaker 2: into an incident with Jalen Ramsey in the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: of that game, and today comes word because of a
Speaker 2: spitting incident, will be suspended beginning next week. And David
Speaker 2: was one of those, one of those afternoons of great frustration.
Speaker 2: And anybody who knows Jalen Ramsey and this is not
Speaker 2: to excuse, certainly Jamar's behavior, but Jayleen Ramsey is an
Speaker 2: instigator and an irritator, and Jamar engaged and then took
Speaker 2: it too far. And now he's gonna suffer the consequences
Speaker 2: and the Bengals offense and this team is gonna suffer
Speaker 2: the consequences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's the big thing is you know, Jamar.
Speaker 3: Jamar is gonna be lighter in the pocketbook and have
Speaker 3: less opportunity to put up numbers at the end of
Speaker 3: the season in terms of catch his yards and touchdowns,
Speaker 3: but it's opportunity for teammates to step up opportunity for
Speaker 3: others to show that they're developing, that they're coming along,
Speaker 3: that they're ready for more work, They're ready for more opportunity,
Speaker 3: showing that to the head coach, the coordinator, the position coach,
Speaker 3: and the quarterback. Most importantly, the quarterback. Chase Brown has
Speaker 3: gotten quite a few targets and he's caught the football
Speaker 3: very well. He's shown himself to be a viable target
Speaker 3: coming out of the backfield, running good routes, securing the football,
Speaker 3: tucking it away, making the first guy miss, and then
Speaker 3: the other. Thing he's doing real well, obviously, is allowing
Speaker 3: the players to be made by blitz pickup, sticking the
Speaker 3: face right in the middle of a linebacker's chest and
Speaker 3: getting it done. The tight end positions has been almost
Speaker 3: not invisible, but hasn't really shown itself to be a
Speaker 3: huge factor in any football game. Kasiki needs to get
Speaker 3: healthy and be able to do what he does so
Speaker 3: well on the football field. The tremendous receiver of the
Speaker 3: football Noahfan had five receptions on six targets, Hudson Tanner
Speaker 3: Hudson had three catches on three targets, and Yosi Vosh
Speaker 3: step up. As you knows as a number three receiver.
Speaker 3: With Jamar Chase out for a game, he could be
Speaker 3: he's number two. I mean, he's a guy that needs
Speaker 3: to show that. Okay, come on, guys, I'm ready. He's
Speaker 3: had his issues dropping the football. He seems to have
Speaker 3: gotten over that. Everybody has those from time to time
Speaker 3: during the course of their careers and hopefully Yosi's done
Speaker 3: with that for this season. So bottom line is, guys
Speaker 3: are drafted out of college showing that the talents they
Speaker 3: have and they're they're they're taken by a football team
Speaker 3: for a specific role that the team had in mind
Speaker 3: for them. Now you're going to live up to that
Speaker 3: role and have an opportunity to maybe expand that role
Speaker 3: show the team that you're capable of more. And if
Speaker 3: you're Jamar, you just can't. The track record is clear
Speaker 3: with Jaylen Ramsey. You know what he is, you know
Speaker 3: what he's going to try to do. And if you're
Speaker 3: a veteran like Jamar and you're a captain like Jamar.
Speaker 2: You just can't engage. You can't let him get under
Speaker 2: the skin and take it to the extent he did,
Speaker 2: because you cost yourself and you cost your team. And
Speaker 2: that's not that's what. That's never what Jamar Chase has
Speaker 2: been about. He's always been about team. That's the disappointing thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is a team player. You're right about that, Lance,
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's not lip service, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's sincere. He's sincere about it. Nobody probably feels worse
Speaker 2: about it than than Jamar Chase. You know, you know
Speaker 2: some guys, uh, you know, I asked, he deserved it.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I did it. That's not Jamar. Jamar is
Speaker 2: not that type of types of an individual because the
Speaker 2: like like just said, the team's the one that's paying
Speaker 2: the consequences. Let's get reaction immediately after the game to
Speaker 2: what transpired. Here's Jamar meeting with the media. What happened
Speaker 2: to jail.
Speaker 10: Exchanging words? You were saying that you him him, I
Speaker 10: ain't never to I ain't never opened my mouth to
Speaker 10: that guy.
Speaker 5: What do you what?
Speaker 11: What do you think prouted the reaction from.
Speaker 10: Well, you don't like some of the words I told him.
Speaker 10: He's been going back and forth the whole time, so
Speaker 10: I'm sure some some got under the skin.
Speaker 3: So it was building whole game.
Speaker 5: It just wasn't on that drive.
Speaker 10: The first time we had a altercation and then it
Speaker 10: was a second time.
Speaker 6: Except the first time in your career anybody's.
Speaker 5: Ever hunched you.
Speaker 2: A game.
Speaker 3: You seen me get punk.
Speaker 5: We'll thank you for a punch.
Speaker 3: M hm j J.
Speaker 4: Just so clear you did not spin on him.
Speaker 10: A whole ones you got any saying, I ain't spit
Speaker 10: on nobody?
Speaker 4: Okay, how how frustrating getting you walk about the game.
Speaker 4: How frustrating is the loss? Giving what y'all wanted?
Speaker 2: What y'a wanna do in the morse come.
Speaker 3: Out in wi was it?
Speaker 10: It's hard knowing how hard we work for practice and
Speaker 10: coming here in here and not executing tour best ability.
Speaker 10: Gotta I gotta do better as a team.
Speaker 6: When you double down every snap basically you wor.
Speaker 10: Nah not every snap? First series is like cloud with
Speaker 10: like a two man show. Second series the first thirty
Speaker 10: downalds when I got double.
Speaker 9: Did they did they change it up from last month?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How did they?
Speaker 8: How did they change? Uh?
Speaker 3: A lot more?
Speaker 10: Too high cloud myself the whole time, try to look
Speaker 10: make it look like too man. And then when they
Speaker 10: did give me one on one safety just cheated.
Speaker 3: Why do you think it was so hard to get
Speaker 3: into a rhythm tonight. That's an offensive unit.
Speaker 6: Good question, man, it's a lot going on.
Speaker 10: We had a good was running the ball a lot too,
Speaker 10: tryna get 'em out of the too high so you know,
Speaker 10: we was tryn to execute that, but when it was
Speaker 10: time for us to execute and pass the ball, we
Speaker 10: wouldn't getting our best looks.
Speaker 3: Did you feel, given the fact that you guys were
Speaker 3: close at half time, that this game on the road
Speaker 3: was there for the taking?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 10: It was there, It was there, It was there by
Speaker 10: half time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a playoff math gets hard. Now what motivates you
Speaker 6: from here on there?
Speaker 10: Just gotta keep competing, Man, can't forget how I got here.
Speaker 10: I gotta keep competing, stay positive, and just keep working.
Speaker 9: Do you feel like there was a missed opportunity to
Speaker 9: to make things tight in the AFC North?
Speaker 5: You could say that probably.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Where where do y'all going from here?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 4: How tid it was?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: What's what's the main objective? Now? Three and seven?
Speaker 6: With the games that Jill got left.
Speaker 10: It just won the next game and you know we
Speaker 10: gotta we gotta win in the in the.
Speaker 3: You know where Sam Stone was talking about how there's
Speaker 3: no quit in the defense, no quit on the team.
Speaker 3: Why do you feel that same way? I assume we do.
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, I mean look at it from the past
Speaker 10: couple of games that you know we we shouldn't have
Speaker 10: won or we have one and just see see how
Speaker 10: the guys play. Everybody's playing today, fullies until the last
Speaker 10: listen to the last time on the clock, go.
Speaker 2: Out Jabar Chase immediately after the game yesterday, We've got
Speaker 2: more to get to. We'll talk about the defense here
Speaker 2: from Geno Stone and more as we continue on with
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Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's get into the defensive side of things.
Speaker 2: We've heard from Zach Taylor, heard from Joe Flacco and
Speaker 2: also Jamar Chase. Let's talk defense. Here's Geno Stone after
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: You know, did you guys think that was a better
Speaker 3: effort by the defense as a whole today? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, definitely.
Speaker 12: I mean everyone said the back on said, definitely a
Speaker 12: thing we work on for we've been we've been saying
Speaker 12: we could work on. By the end of the day,
Speaker 12: I think we held it down in the rezone today
Speaker 12: when we had the opportunities on there, Captain Tobel, So
Speaker 12: I think we did a better job today doing that.
Speaker 3: Did you think the chunk plays where really would hurt
Speaker 3: you overall at.
Speaker 12: A certain point, Yeah, And then it comes down to,
Speaker 12: you know, certain situations of you know, people are ill
Speaker 12: spot and that's that's what it came down to. But
Speaker 12: I think overall I played we played better. I would
Speaker 12: say that we played better. I mean, definitely got work
Speaker 12: on a tackles though my self included, but we definitely
Speaker 12: play better.
Speaker 6: Can you describe trying to tackle Washington? I mean a
Speaker 6: three hundred pound tight end that gets ahead of steam
Speaker 6: with that stiff arm. It seems like a difficult task.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: No, I mean my my first one, I tried to
Speaker 12: get him out of bounce. I thought I was gonna
Speaker 12: get my bounce on the heel on the tracks.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 12: The next one got knocked. If I'm down and gone down,
Speaker 12: I mean, it's really that end of the day. It's
Speaker 12: got to get him down. But the first one, I
Speaker 12: think that's gotta I mean, I's gotta do better.
Speaker 6: Rest all, this feels like on third and long they
Speaker 6: threw short a lot, counting on yards after the catch,
Speaker 6: and unfortunately it worked too many times.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean in the second and second half. We
Speaker 12: made an adjustment after the first half, but you know,
Speaker 12: we we had them an opportunity to second half, so
Speaker 12: really didn't do that.
Speaker 3: And then the one, the one we did. It wasn't
Speaker 3: the same call we were in before.
Speaker 12: So you know, at the end of the day, we
Speaker 12: just gotta, you know, execute the call and everyone got
Speaker 12: a rally to the ball.
Speaker 6: They scored twenty points to offense. What were the positives
Speaker 6: from your view for the defense?
Speaker 12: I feel like when we stopped to run better. Uh
Speaker 12: it wasn't many big drum plays. They had a few,
Speaker 12: I'll say that, but uh, it wasn't like nothing like
Speaker 12: last two weeks.
Speaker 3: I said that for sure.
Speaker 12: I think it was we took a positive step, and uh,
Speaker 12: I felt we gotta get get better. We still got
Speaker 12: a lot of more games left, and uh, there's no
Speaker 12: quickn this team.
Speaker 3: So I know we're we're better right now.
Speaker 6: It takes to keep going, you see, to keep drive
Speaker 6: was the first drive the second half proved Office out.
Speaker 9: There instead of Rogers and they don't get him.
Speaker 6: On the field.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean I just feel like I'm
Speaker 12: I I mean think we we we adjusted after the
Speaker 12: first the first the first drive of the whole game.
Speaker 12: I felt we had to just adjusted after that. But
Speaker 12: you know, we know when Mason came in, there's gonna
Speaker 12: be a different type of style. They were gonna limit
Speaker 12: limit it a little more, uh with him in there,
Speaker 12: and try not to put too much on his plate.
Speaker 12: But you know, I feel like we, like we said, uh,
Speaker 12: we only have limited action in the second half, so
Speaker 12: you know at the end of the day when when
Speaker 12: when we get down there, then too we.
Speaker 3: Gotta stop him. So we came out of score big
Speaker 3: understand not only.
Speaker 12: That, Yeah, definitely, I mean we knew it was a stake.
Speaker 12: We knew, uh, what we have in front of us.
Speaker 12: So you know, at the end of the day, like
Speaker 12: I said, we gotta getett ready to get better. And uh,
Speaker 12: there's no Quinn's team. You know, last year we ran
Speaker 12: off with a lot of wins, so she's gotta keep
Speaker 12: the same mindset and get ready to do it again.
Speaker 13: I'm frustrated gainst the mistackles just kind of continues.
Speaker 5: To be the common theme here every week.
Speaker 6: It just seems like just guys can't kind of get
Speaker 6: that corrected at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a thing.
Speaker 12: By the end of the day, I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 12: it's really no bit scores off it. I mean except
Speaker 12: the one D and that's me. That's that's the one
Speaker 12: thing I'll say, but like the miss tackles are all
Speaker 12: one on one situations.
Speaker 3: It's not like where people are.
Speaker 12: You know, everyone's rolling to the ball and there, and
Speaker 12: that's that's how it should be. It's how defense would
Speaker 12: be played. Should be one on one tackles. But when
Speaker 12: this one on one tackles, gotta make your plays. I'll
Speaker 12: say that for sure.
Speaker 5: Seems like steel little football.
Speaker 3: You know what it's all in, But you grew up
Speaker 3: watching it.
Speaker 5: If they get, if they need it, they get, if they.
Speaker 3: Start getting there and they get and it seems like.
Speaker 12: They always out tackle when I was yeah, I mean
Speaker 12: I feel like I mean I being in THEFS North
Speaker 12: for a while, kind of all these games when you
Speaker 12: come to Pittsburgh kind of play out the same way.
Speaker 12: They're gonna rely on their defense and let their offense
Speaker 12: run the ball and keep it serveve and is kind
Speaker 12: of how it is. And it's been my best as
Speaker 12: I growing up. You know, so we knew what type
Speaker 12: of game was gonna be coming in and he's an
Speaker 12: execute the way we.
Speaker 6: Had to do.
Speaker 2: Geno Stone after the game and Dave, we talked defense
Speaker 2: was was better, not good enough? But one thing that
Speaker 2: really jumps out in tracking the game, the third downs
Speaker 2: allowed and some of the killers. They allow a third
Speaker 2: and eleven conversion, a third and seventeen conversion, another third
Speaker 2: and eleven, there was a first and twenty. There's a
Speaker 2: twenty three yard gain on a on a first down. Earlier,
Speaker 2: there were just those backbreaking moments where you're so close
Speaker 2: to getting off the field and giving your offense to football,
Speaker 2: and they would they would break down at those moments.
Speaker 2: And it's just kind of been the pattern this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has. And you know, if Aaron Rodgers, you know,
Speaker 3: makes a big conversion, you think, oh, you know, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 3: He's done that to a lot of people. But Mason Rudolph,
Speaker 3: now he's making a big third and seventeen conversions, and
Speaker 3: it's like, whoa, that's a horse of a different color.
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph comes in the football game and goes twelve
Speaker 3: or sixteen, one hundred and twenty seven yards touchdown pass
Speaker 3: quarterback Radio one eighteen point five. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: the defense, I agree. In the locker room, the sentiment was,
Speaker 3: you know, the defense really played well enough to potentially
Speaker 3: win this football game. Offensively, just didn't get it done
Speaker 3: at all. You know, we just couldn't take advantage of
Speaker 3: opportunities that were presented to us. And then you turn
Speaker 3: it over twice. You know, Pittsburgh doesn't turn it over.
Speaker 3: Bengals turn it over twice. You go minus two on
Speaker 3: the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 3: And it's tough to win a football game when you're
Speaker 3: putting yourself in that type of an environment.
Speaker 2: Boy, with seven games left, and part of the conversation
Speaker 2: will be as it becomes more and more difficult to
Speaker 2: make the math work to making the playoffs. Part of
Speaker 2: it when you get late in the season is finding
Speaker 2: out about players even more so in opportunities. And I
Speaker 2: wonder as much as Gino Stone has continued to have
Speaker 2: a tough time struggle tackling, I wonder if it might
Speaker 2: open the door for Tyson Anderson to get some more
Speaker 2: snaps or PJ Jewles to get some more snaps. It
Speaker 2: just feels like something has to happen from a tackling standpoint,
Speaker 2: and Geno unfortunately has been almost like the poster problem
Speaker 2: for the tackling at times for this team.
Speaker 3: It really has and he's earned it and he deserves it.
Speaker 3: I mean, God, it's brutal. It's like he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to use his arms and hands and wrap people up
Speaker 3: and tackle people and take them to the ground. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Bengals need to do the routine tackling drill for
Speaker 3: like a half an hour, you know, and get your
Speaker 3: head across the bow, wrap up with the arms and
Speaker 3: take them to the ground. Paul Brown had our quarterbacks
Speaker 3: doing routine tackling drills back in the day because if
Speaker 3: they turn the football over and they may be the
Speaker 3: one that has to make the tackle on the interceptor.
Speaker 3: So you're right, if things continue this way, and maybe
Speaker 3: it's time. You know, it's been bad now for ten games,
Speaker 3: so you know, maybe it's time to take a look,
Speaker 3: see at the others and give him an opportunity. And
Speaker 3: you know, once they get in the lineup, they may
Speaker 3: never come out.
Speaker 2: Stick around more to get too. As we hit down
Speaker 2: the stretch. In our first of three hours today, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about the day that Chase Brown turned in yesterday
Speaker 2: and more. He's Dave Lapham, I'm alliance McAllister. The show
Speaker 2: is Bengals on. We do it on the Bengals Radio
Speaker 2: Network and seven hundred WLW down the stretch. We go
Speaker 2: about to put our first of three hours in the
Speaker 2: books today Bengals one of the Bengals Radio Network and
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLTW Lance McAllister Dave Lapham. Chase Brown a
Speaker 2: productive day, fourth straight week with over one hundred total
Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage. He carried it eighteen times for ninety
Speaker 2: nine yards. He caught six passes for twenty eight yards.
Speaker 2: And Dabu, you alluded to the running game early and
Speaker 2: what the the big picture of eighteen carries ninety nine
Speaker 2: yards is impressive. The frustrating thing was kind of the
Speaker 2: staggered stop and start to the run game because Chase
Speaker 2: Brown had a fifteen yard gain. He later had a
Speaker 2: thirty five yard gain, but the other sixteen carries they
Speaker 2: didn't do a whole lot with the run game. And
Speaker 2: that's part of the kind of the roller coaster of
Speaker 2: this thing. It'll be fun at moments and then it'll
Speaker 2: like come to a jarring, halted moments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Chase Brown fifty yards of his ninety
Speaker 3: nine on two of his eighteen carries, So it was
Speaker 3: feast or famine. Yep. You know, they either gashed him
Speaker 3: and hurt him. Badly or you know, went away with
Speaker 3: without a whimper. And that's the thing. I think consistency,
Speaker 3: or lack thereof, is the biggest problem this football team
Speaker 3: is having. And that's not a shock when you consider
Speaker 3: that their overall record is is three and seven. It's
Speaker 3: just you know, some some series they go out there
Speaker 3: and wow, jeez, it looks pretty good. Thet they got
Speaker 3: a pretty good idea of what's happening here. They they're
Speaker 3: they're they got a nice, nice approach. They're attacking well,
Speaker 3: playing very physical, playing very aggressively, and then you know
Speaker 3: it'll be like, what the hell is going on? This
Speaker 3: football team looks awful? Man, it looks like they haven't
Speaker 3: even practiced all week. It looks like that you know,
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers or whoever the opponent is is just
Speaker 3: totally befuddling them. You know, they're doing things that they
Speaker 3: didn't even anticipate and prepare themselves for. So that's the
Speaker 3: thing is becoming. I think part of being a professional
Speaker 3: is doing your job consistently. Your supervisor knowing day in
Speaker 3: and day out, you're gonna show up to work, you're
Speaker 3: gonna punch in, you're gonna work your ass off and
Speaker 3: you're gonna punch out and go home, rest up, and
Speaker 3: do it again the next day. And and that's the
Speaker 3: mindset that they have to get to.
Speaker 2: And Chase Brown is so good. We saw earlier in
Speaker 2: the year when there weren't holes being created for him
Speaker 2: and he was getting hit first contact was behind a
Speaker 2: lot of scrimmage. But you him just a little bit
Speaker 2: of daylight, and whether it's running the ball or catching
Speaker 2: it out of the backfield, he can be dynamic. I mean,
Speaker 2: four consecutive weeks over one hundred yards of total offense.
Speaker 2: That is a big element for this offense when it
Speaker 2: when it's working that.
Speaker 3: Way, no question. I mean he is as he's an
Speaker 3: explosive player. He's got a low center of gravity, you know,
Speaker 3: I'd say he's five to nine max and two hundred
Speaker 3: and ten two hundred and fifteen pounds, and he can
Speaker 3: change direction in a heartbeat now and hit his skill set,
Speaker 3: like we talked about, he can do just about anything
Speaker 3: that you wanted to do as a football player. So
Speaker 3: he's a huge weapon.
Speaker 2: And wound up being their leading receiver with the six
Speaker 2: catches yesterday. It had more catches than anybody else on
Speaker 2: the team yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did, and uh you know he he had
Speaker 3: tied for the most targets with eight. Excuse me, I'm
Speaker 3: looking at the wrong he was he was second target. Yep,
Speaker 3: and he and t had eight, so you know they're
Speaker 3: definitely the offense is definitely. I'm not saying it's going
Speaker 3: through Chase Brown, but part of the time it is
Speaker 3: going through Chase.
Speaker 2: From yes nice got to have it go through absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: All right, that's one of the books. We have much
Speaker 2: more to get to. We'll hear from Barrett Carter andmaryus
Speaker 2: Mims talk about the play of Miles Murphy yesterday and more.
Speaker 2: I might have to get into some Joe Burrow conversation
Speaker 2: before we're done as well. He's Dave Blapham. I'm Lance McAllister.
Speaker 2: The show is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network
Speaker 2: and seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back into our number
Speaker 2: two Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio networking seven hundred
Speaker 2: wled up at Lance McCalister and Dave Blapham breaking down
Speaker 2: yesterday's thirty four to twelve loss to the Steelers, looking
Speaker 2: ahead eventually to those new England Patriots and always time
Speaker 2: for one of these dave.
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Speaker 2: Let's begin the hor with some conversation on the defensive
Speaker 2: side of things and the rookie linebacker. Here's Barrett Carter
Speaker 2: after the game.
Speaker 13: We just got to get eleven half to the ball
Speaker 13: and just find a way to get the guy down
Speaker 13: whoever it is. We're in great play calls, play calls
Speaker 13: sending us up for success. So for us as a defense,
Speaker 13: we just got to get eleven halfs to the ball
Speaker 13: and just find a way to get off the field.
Speaker 13: You know, it may not look pretty all the time,
Speaker 13: but just we just gotta find a way.
Speaker 6: Washington a big tight end, he catches that ball.
Speaker 14: What was your view of that play and ours to
Speaker 14: try to get him down in the space.
Speaker 3: Of be size.
Speaker 13: Yeah, just I just got to do better just knocking
Speaker 13: the stiff arm down and just find a way to
Speaker 13: get him down. So he's a good player. Obviously, he's
Speaker 13: a large human being. So just just gotta knock the
Speaker 13: stiff arm down and just get him, find a way
Speaker 13: to get him down.
Speaker 6: He went heavy to the screen game. What's the key
Speaker 6: to playing those men?
Speaker 13: Getting eleven half to the football? That's that's really it.
Speaker 13: I mean it's as frank as that age. Just eleven
Speaker 13: guys just doing their job and once the ball get thrown.
Speaker 3: Just flying around and just trying to get 'em down.
Speaker 5: You know, there's no quid and helping moralizing get third
Speaker 5: and eleven third and eleven third.
Speaker 3: And seventeen they keep picking up those big ones where
Speaker 3: those artipically high percentage plays.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's frustrating. You know, those are favorable situations for
Speaker 13: the defense, and you know we expect to get off
Speaker 13: the field really every single time we're in that situation.
Speaker 3: So it's uh, super frustrating.
Speaker 13: So we just gotta just watch the film and find out,
Speaker 13: you know, what exactly went wrong and just do better
Speaker 13: with tackling, do better just swarming to the football, taking
Speaker 13: better angles, and just finding a way to get the
Speaker 13: runner down. So it's frustrating, but you just gotta find
Speaker 13: a way to.
Speaker 3: Not let it happened in the next few weeks. Did
Speaker 3: you like being a key drive the game?
Speaker 2: First?
Speaker 6: First drive the second half moved alps in there.
Speaker 2: Uh, you guys got 'em through and the water a
Speaker 2: couple of times.
Speaker 3: Don't put off the field.
Speaker 2: You to get with keyp drive and keep and.
Speaker 6: How the game went.
Speaker 3: I mean that specific drive. I wouldn't say that was
Speaker 3: the KEI a key drive.
Speaker 13: You know, you have to treat and give every single
Speaker 13: drive the respect that it deserves, and if you don't,
Speaker 13: then you know you're gonna get exposed. So I wouldn't
Speaker 13: necessarily say that was a key drive. You know, it
Speaker 13: is a emphasis of, you know, try to win the
Speaker 13: middle eight the last four minutes of the second half,
Speaker 13: first four or the third. So frustrating that that happened,
Speaker 13: but you just gotta find a way to not let
Speaker 13: that happen again.
Speaker 6: And those stirring lungs. It seemed like the strategy was,
Speaker 6: you know, if they catch it short close to the
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, you gotta rally up and make the play,
Speaker 6: which is pretty common and unfortunately there were several plays
Speaker 6: where you just weren't able to execute that right.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I guess there's no real question there, but that is
Speaker 6: something that the defense has to improve on, right.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, we try to try to keep everything
Speaker 13: in front of you and just like I said, just
Speaker 13: rally and tackle 'em. So we just need to do
Speaker 13: a better job of that. Frustrating that we had them in.
Speaker 13: You know, so many of those situations today and weren't
Speaker 13: able to get off the field. But you know those,
Speaker 13: like I said, those are favorable situations for the defense.
Speaker 13: If we can get 'em in a third down the
Speaker 13: long every single time, then you know, that's that's playing
Speaker 13: good football. So we just gotta find a way to
Speaker 13: just correct those mistakes and all that that happen again.
Speaker 3: Reach straight games without a turnover with what's the comu
Speaker 3: to get a.
Speaker 13: News, but just seeing the ball, just having a knack
Speaker 13: for it, you know, whether that's punching, ripping, stabbing, picking
Speaker 13: the ball off, whatever it is, just just gotta see
Speaker 13: the ball better. You know, our offenses, you know, fighting
Speaker 13: and scratching corn, doing everything they can for us, and
Speaker 13: you know we just gotta we gotta compliment them and
Speaker 13: give them some turnovers and return So we're just we're
Speaker 13: building towards at you know, it's frustrating that we haven't
Speaker 13: done that in the past three games, but we work
Speaker 13: at it every single day so that that worm that
Speaker 13: turnover warm is gonna turn. So it's gonna turn very soon.
Speaker 14: You used it'd frustrating a lot.
Speaker 2: Just how much more frustrating is it knowing where you
Speaker 2: guys are in the division and knowing how much of
Speaker 2: win here could have tightened.
Speaker 14: Things in the race.
Speaker 13: It's frustrating. Again, No, this division stay, There's still a
Speaker 13: lot of ball have to be played. Still gotta play
Speaker 13: Baltimore twice, Cleveland again, Cleveland again. So I mean there's
Speaker 13: it's still a lot of room to for us to
Speaker 13: you know, rise and you know take the spot. So it,
Speaker 13: like I said, it is freshing. But they don't call
Speaker 13: the season after that game. So we we got we
Speaker 13: got work to do, but we'll we'll respond. For sure.
Speaker 6: The Ropins did only score twenty were their positive things
Speaker 6: on defense and if Selwich stood out.
Speaker 13: To you, Yeah, for sure there were positives and you know,
Speaker 13: twenty is still too much in in my opinion and
Speaker 13: our whole defense opinion. Like that that's they shouldn't they
Speaker 13: shouldn't have had twenty points. But I thought we played well,
Speaker 13: just never never wavering. You know when things got hard,
Speaker 13: you know we stayed together. You know, the energy was great.
Speaker 13: So you know, we we we're we're building a family
Speaker 13: on this defense, and we we know that we're gonna
Speaker 13: fight til the last second, and you know things may
Speaker 13: not be pretty, but you know we're gonna finish all
Speaker 13: four quarters or however long.
Speaker 3: It takes so a.
Speaker 13: Lot of positives to take away, but know the main
Speaker 13: positive that we just got to get a win, and
Speaker 13: that's what we fail to do today. So I just
Speaker 13: got to look forward to next We try to do that.
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter after the game yesterday and Dave, I almost
Speaker 2: I feel bad at times watching Barrett Carter because it's
Speaker 2: almost as though when when you're a rookie and there's
Speaker 2: expectations you early in the season, he looked really aggressive
Speaker 2: and sometimes might overrun a play what you understand now.
Speaker 2: I almost it almost feels like he's wondering and second
Speaker 2: guessing and tentative, and and anytime you're a linebacker and
Speaker 2: your tentative, that play has already passed you, and it's
Speaker 2: just it's leaving him in some really difficult situations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to be perfect, you know, and and man,
Speaker 3: you just got to shoot your gun. You just got
Speaker 3: to let it roll, you know. Have faith in your preparation,
Speaker 3: have faith and what the coaches have instructed you to do,
Speaker 3: have coached you up to do, and when you see it,
Speaker 3: go get it. And because he is he's a very
Speaker 3: very physically gifted kid, He's a skilled kid athletically. They
Speaker 3: were very very excited about about having him and being
Speaker 3: able to work with him and and be a big
Speaker 3: part of his his professional career, his professional life. So
Speaker 3: they've got big plans for Barrett Carter, and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, deservedly so. But he's got to play more consistently,
Speaker 3: just like everybody around him, Dave.
Speaker 2: I would imagine there were times back in your day
Speaker 2: where you're sitting in the film session and there's a
Speaker 2: play that pops up on the screen and you know
Speaker 2: it's coming and I block your eyes. I gotta imagine
Speaker 2: today a tough day for the trio of Barrett Carter
Speaker 2: and Geno Stone and DJ Turner on the play that
Speaker 2: Darnell Washington at six seven two sixty four pushes one
Speaker 2: away knocks one down, shoves another away, and rumbles down
Speaker 2: the field. That up on the up on the screen
Speaker 2: would would be a tough watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, you can get embarrassed sometimes.
Speaker 3: And Washington, who they say is pushing three hundred pounds
Speaker 3: on the scale, uh, and he looks like it. He's
Speaker 3: a he's a big man. I mean, I'm thinking this
Speaker 3: guy might be a hell of a left tackle. He's
Speaker 3: got he's got great feet. Uh, he's he's got long,
Speaker 3: long arms. I mean he could he could literally uh
Speaker 3: at the back end of his career, maybe end up
Speaker 3: playing some some tackle for somebody. But that play ignited
Speaker 3: the Steelers, you know, because they respond to physicality. That's
Speaker 3: what Mike Tomlins all about. And that happened right in
Speaker 3: front of the Steeler bench and they went nuts. I
Speaker 3: mean Tomlin, the coaches, the players, the fans, and i
Speaker 3: mean everybody started going nuts. So that was Ah, that
Speaker 3: was a big, big momentum builder in the football game.
Speaker 2: There's no question this linebacker group is a is a
Speaker 2: work in progress. They they've traded Logan Wilson and that
Speaker 2: was to get more time for Barrett Carter and more
Speaker 2: time for Dimitrius Knight Junior yesterday or in Burke's got
Speaker 2: more snaps than he's been getting and a little bit
Speaker 2: fewer for Dimitrius Knight Junior. So you're you're walking the
Speaker 2: line when you when you play young guys, you can't
Speaker 2: get better unless you play. But when you play with
Speaker 2: young guys, it comes with the built in growing pains
Speaker 2: of being a young guy. And that's the line they're
Speaker 2: walking right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've got a few players that are right
Speaker 3: about the same ability, you know, and now Al Golden
Speaker 3: and the staff is trying to figure out who deserves
Speaker 3: the most snaps, you know. I mean it's like they're
Speaker 3: they're auditioning out there in in live action, live football games.
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily where you want to be at this
Speaker 3: stage of the season, you know, just over the halfway
Speaker 3: point of the season. But reality, uh sometimes sucks. That's
Speaker 3: where the Bengals are.
Speaker 2: It's like a T shirt. There should be a teacher.
Speaker 2: Reality sometimes sucks. Printed up will continue. There's more to
Speaker 2: get to. We'll talk oh Lie, Dave Lapham, Lance but
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Speaker 2: the last But now let'st along with Dave Lapham. We've
Speaker 2: sorted through yesterday. You've heard from Zach and Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase and Gino Stone. A little bit later on,
Speaker 2: we'll get into some other elements of the game, from
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy to looking ahead with the potential return of
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. We've got the Patriots to get to and more.
Speaker 2: Let's talk offensive line and let's let's hear from the
Speaker 2: second year offensive lineman and Marius Mims. Here's Mimes after
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 6: Marius, tough loss today against the Pittsburgh Steelers. You're matched
Speaker 6: up against t J. Watt. He didn't wreck the game.
Speaker 6: I know that's the first thing that any offensive lineman
Speaker 6: has to do. But I describe how you feel about
Speaker 6: the way the offense performed today.
Speaker 15: Like I said, man starts with me before I can.
Speaker 15: I said, I point this finger on me first, because,
Speaker 15: like I said, I gotta be I gotta be better
Speaker 15: in areas. Like I said, Mike, I said, nobody can
Speaker 15: never play a perfect game, man, But you just got
Speaker 15: you gotta ascribe to. Like I said, some things I
Speaker 15: wish I could take almost I can get back. It's
Speaker 15: a few players where I just didn't play out to
Speaker 15: my standard, whether that be a a set where I
Speaker 15: opened too fast or a late hit that I gave
Speaker 15: up Like I said, I gave up a late hit
Speaker 15: when Joe, when Joe threw the interception. And it's just
Speaker 15: like I said, it starts with me. I gotta be
Speaker 15: better in that area. And like I said, I'm not
Speaker 15: the one to critique anybody else because like I said,
Speaker 15: it starts with me first. And I don't want to,
Speaker 15: you know, speak on another like I said, another group
Speaker 15: or another like I said, another player what they can
Speaker 15: do better. But I said, I can just talk about
Speaker 15: my I just talk about me honestly, where you know,
Speaker 15: I just have to be better in certain areas. Like
Speaker 15: I said, it's two or three players that I want back.
Speaker 15: I guess tej in past pro where I feel like, uh,
Speaker 15: like you know, I didn't plug up to my standard.
Speaker 15: But like I said, we're on the road. It's hard
Speaker 15: in a hard environment. I'm going against a Hall of famer,
Speaker 15: and you know, I just if I want to be
Speaker 15: you know, like if I want to be a Hall
Speaker 15: of Famer one day, I gotta you know, you know,
Speaker 15: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta play like one. And
Speaker 15: you know, like I said, I'm not gonna play perfect,
Speaker 15: but I didn't plug up to my standard on a
Speaker 15: few plays. And I wish I could have those players back,
Speaker 15: But like I said, it's football, imperfect. Never gonna be perfect.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 15: But like I said, you gotta scribe to be. Like
Speaker 15: I said, we're gonna we're gonna go back in watch
Speaker 15: film Monday, dissect the dissect the film and figure out
Speaker 15: what we did wrong, and you know, come back out
Speaker 15: next Sunday ready to roll, man, because like I said,
Speaker 15: we have seven more games left. It's not over with
Speaker 15: you know, it's you know, two and one of the division,
Speaker 15: and we just gotta, you know, just gotta keep going, man,
Speaker 15: because we really gotta win out men in my in
Speaker 15: my minds, like I said, making the playoffs, man, it's hard.
Speaker 15: So like I said, with any team, but for with us,
Speaker 15: we gotta our goocrit just like went out honestly. But
Speaker 15: we're gonna start with just you know, taking that one
Speaker 15: game at a time, and that's the Patriots next So.
Speaker 6: How hard is it to face Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh Once
Speaker 6: they start to get the momentum going and the crowd
Speaker 6: gets into it.
Speaker 15: I mean, I feel like that's anywhere honestly, man. But
Speaker 15: Pittsburgh's different. It's an AFC North rivalry.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You know they're gonna be coming out that ball. They're
Speaker 3: gonna be humming.
Speaker 15: They're known for their front seven, their their their their interior,
Speaker 15: their edge rushers, their linebackers, being physical, and we just
Speaker 15: got a master that physicality.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 15: But like I said, man, season's not over. We gotta
Speaker 15: just keep getting better every week and you know, come
Speaker 15: back stronger next week.
Speaker 6: Chase Brown and ran for ninety nine yards. As a team,
Speaker 6: he ran for more than one hundred. Do you feel
Speaker 6: like that aspect of the offense has kind of turned
Speaker 6: the corner now where you feel like the running game
Speaker 6: is pretty reliable.
Speaker 15: I feel like we bought him to what we bought
Speaker 15: into our oc our head coach and our on opposition
Speaker 15: coaches philosophy.
Speaker 3: Just run the ball. And like I said, Chase is
Speaker 3: a special talent.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 3: That guy right there runs hard.
Speaker 15: Practice is hard, like I said in the building, like
Speaker 15: I said, like I said, he always has pen paper,
Speaker 15: he's always studying hard, watching film.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 15: Like I said, he deserves it. So we just gotta
Speaker 15: be better for him. And going forward, you know, we
Speaker 15: gotta just you know, keep holding them the run game,
Speaker 15: just keep getting better because he's a he's a guy
Speaker 15: that if you get him in space and if you
Speaker 15: you know, make Keith blocks man, he's he's gonna take
Speaker 15: them to the house. So, like I said, we just
Speaker 15: got him. Like I said, we've been taking a step
Speaker 15: in the right direction in the run game. But for him, man,
Speaker 15: we just gotta keep getting better every week so he
Speaker 15: can show high supposed to be is.
Speaker 6: Appreciate your time, guests to luck against the Pats next week.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you Mims after the game, Dave, give me a
Speaker 2: give me a kind of a scouter reporting and in
Speaker 2: his second year, Do you like the track and the
Speaker 2: projection that Mims is on in the kind of the growth,
Speaker 2: development and maturity that you would hope for in a
Speaker 2: second year player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like. I like Amarius Mims' potential. You know,
Speaker 3: I think he's, uh, he's a genetic freak. I mean
Speaker 3: he is, He's He's a marvel physically. He's he can
Speaker 3: move really well for a guy his size. Uh, there's
Speaker 3: no stiff you know, in a Marius Mims. I mean
Speaker 3: he's very fluid. Uh. He bends really well at the
Speaker 3: knees and and he doesn't bend at the waste. He
Speaker 3: bends at the knees. He's got flexibility in his in
Speaker 3: his ankles, and he's got flexibility and his knee joint.
Speaker 3: And he's he's very strong, you know, big, naturally strong guy.
Speaker 8: He is.
Speaker 3: He's a horse, and I think Scott Peters, the new
Speaker 3: offensive line coach, has given him additional tools for his toolbox.
Speaker 3: You know. He he played at Georgia, was well coached
Speaker 3: down there, didn't get he missed a lot of activity
Speaker 3: in games because of uh injury and hopefully you know,
Speaker 3: he's been nicked up a little bit here with the
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. Hopefully that is sometimes guys have a period
Speaker 3: of time during the course of their career where that
Speaker 3: is a problem, but then it goes away. And hopefully
Speaker 3: when he's done and retired, he will be able to
Speaker 3: reflect back and say, man, that was a struggle getting
Speaker 3: through that period of time. But I think that that
Speaker 3: he Scott Peters likes the way he plays, likes his attitude,
Speaker 3: likes his approach to the game. Intelligent, you know, he's
Speaker 3: not a guy that he doesn't blow assignments the tackle position.
Speaker 3: After having played all five you know in my career
Speaker 3: and a couple of times in the same game, the
Speaker 3: tackle position is not real sophisticated in terms of assignments.
Speaker 3: You got the end, you know, basically, you got the
Speaker 3: end the end man on the line of scrimmage. But
Speaker 3: he he does have good football IQ overall IQ general
Speaker 3: I Q smart guy, he's good teammate. All the other
Speaker 3: offensive lineman love the guy, as do other position players.
Speaker 3: So I think a Marius Mims is a good addition
Speaker 3: of the football team.
Speaker 2: When you're a smart guy and a willing learner and
Speaker 2: a sponge, I think you hit on a great point.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a whole lot of snaps in playing
Speaker 2: time in college, so there's still a learning curve, and
Speaker 2: he's it's almost like a piece of clay that he
Speaker 2: hadn't developed a ton of bad habits, so you can
Speaker 2: just kind of mold him into what you want on
Speaker 2: the on the NFL level, and he seems willing to
Speaker 2: learn and adapt as you go that's that's all you're
Speaker 2: looking for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if if when you draft a guy
Speaker 3: like him, I mean, his his future could project to
Speaker 3: be you know, not not sure fire Hall of famer,
Speaker 3: but that type of skill set or you know, is
Speaker 3: he a bust? Is he You hate to use that word.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is, but I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 3: that's that's obviously when when guys come in highly acclaim,
Speaker 3: there's pressure with that and if they don't live up
Speaker 3: to it and fulfill it, you know, oh yeah, that dude,
Speaker 3: he was a bust, you know, and that that kind
Speaker 3: of that kind of attitude, you know, you don't like
Speaker 3: to hear. So I do think I think he's got
Speaker 3: a very very bright future. I think he's playing at
Speaker 3: a good level. I'd say he's grading out as well
Speaker 3: as just about any of the offensive lineman you know
Speaker 3: that the Cincinnati Bengals have. I'm not sure if Scott
Speaker 3: Peters is a very is he a real task master
Speaker 3: greater like you know, Tiger every once in a while
Speaker 3: would be. You know, I remember John Shiner saying, I
Speaker 3: got Tiger. My god, I can't. I can't do anything right.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I guess I can't even put
Speaker 3: my uniform on right. But we'll see, we'll see how
Speaker 3: I do think the the one two punchs though Scott
Speaker 3: Peters teaching Amarius Mims the game of football in the
Speaker 3: NFL is a positive.
Speaker 7: Thing still ahead.
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Speaker 2: David, if fans are looking for something exciting out of
Speaker 2: a frustrating day yesterday, to me. It was exciting that
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy. I jotted his name down a number of
Speaker 2: times throughout the game. And there's been a lot of games, right,
Speaker 2: I didn't jot his name down at all, and I
Speaker 2: was like, where was Miles Murphy today? But unofficially seven tackles,
Speaker 2: a sack, two quarterback hits, a tackle for loss. Yes,
Speaker 2: he did have a roughing the passer, but that was
Speaker 2: a moment where Miles Murphy made his presence felt and
Speaker 2: that that's a good sign. They need more of that
Speaker 2: from him.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean that stat line that you just read
Speaker 3: is probably the best he's had in his career, I
Speaker 3: would think, so, there's no question about it. I mean,
Speaker 3: his his activity level was at a premium. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was he was a factor coming off the edge,
Speaker 3: he uh and and that's what the Bengals thought that
Speaker 3: they were going to get when they drafted him, and
Speaker 3: he is. He's been a uh, you know, just a
Speaker 3: tough nut to crack for the for the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 3: coaching staff. And he's had different coaches now unfortunately, uh
Speaker 3: in a very short time frame of his career. But
Speaker 3: he he does have unrealized potential. He has a big,
Speaker 3: big upside. He showed some of the things that he
Speaker 3: can do. He is explosive, and he has a quick
Speaker 3: first step. I mean he can he can really uh
Speaker 3: you know, distort the timing and and and a guy
Speaker 3: like him not only does he have that quick first step,
Speaker 3: and can he speed rush the edge, he can hunker
Speaker 3: down and take you right down the middle and bull
Speaker 3: rush a little bit. He can he has a pretty
Speaker 3: good storage where he can he can stun you and
Speaker 3: stagger you a little bit. So Miles Murphy is a
Speaker 3: guy that, uh, okay, you put up one good game.
Speaker 3: Now how about following up two, three, four in a row.
Speaker 3: Let's let's show that you've arrived boy. And I was
Speaker 3: struck by uh. I enjoyed the part of the pregame conversation.
Speaker 3: Yesterday Dan Horden talked with him and and mentioned that
Speaker 3: Miles is is so cerebral and such a smart guy.
Speaker 3: And Dan said, sometimes defined yourself maybe overthinking something or
Speaker 3: spending too much time thinking about your your next move
Speaker 3: or how I'm gonna do this versus just the power
Speaker 3: of I'm gonna impose my will. And I would I
Speaker 3: would imagine that's something especially when you're a young guy,
Speaker 3: you're and you're a smart guy.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot you have to clear out. And
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just I need to impose my will and
Speaker 2: be able.
Speaker 3: To say the hell with technique and fundamentals, but the
Speaker 3: hell a technique in front ofmentals. Just get after it.
Speaker 3: Just just you know, let fire the gun man, let
Speaker 3: it roll. You got all this uh, all this physical
Speaker 3: talent oozing out of that out of that body. Let
Speaker 3: it happen. Man.
Speaker 2: And there's no question with the the trays obviously dinged
Speaker 2: up right now, we don't know what his future holds.
Speaker 2: And Shamar Stewart is still a rookie and in recovering
Speaker 2: from an injury, and Joseph Osai, we don't know what
Speaker 2: his future is. They need Miles Murphy when this isn't
Speaker 2: breaking news. You need first round picks to deliver. And
Speaker 2: they need a lot from Miles Murphy this season and
Speaker 2: going forward for this defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the and the Bengals have uh have spent
Speaker 3: a lot of high draft picks on the defense. YEP,
Speaker 3: have had to do it because they've decided as an
Speaker 3: organization they're going to spend money on the offense. You know,
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and T Higgins. I mean,
Speaker 3: you get a lot of money invested in that offensive machine.
Speaker 3: So defensively, Uh, the best way other than signing uh
Speaker 3: you know a veteran free agents, uh who bolstered the defense,
Speaker 3: is to spend high draft picks on the defense side
Speaker 3: of the football. And the Bengals and Duke Tobin and
Speaker 3: the scouting department have been doing exactly that.
Speaker 2: Still ahead, let's talk a little bit about Joe Burrow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the news of last week and what it may mean
Speaker 2: going forward. Will do that up next. He's Dave laphamm Lance.
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Speaker 2: Right, Dave, last week, the big news, the surprise news,
Speaker 2: the WHOA wait a minute, the Bengals make an announcement.
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: They have opened up the window. It's a twenty one
Speaker 2: day practice window where he can practice without counting against
Speaker 2: the roster numbers. At this point, it seemed to have
Speaker 2: caught everybody off guard, what even his teammates. And that's good.
Speaker 3: News, Yeah, really good news. Love it, how about it?
Speaker 3: In a season of not so much good news, there
Speaker 3: is good news regarding Joe Burrow and any positive news
Speaker 3: that involves number nine is tremendous news for the Cincinnati
Speaker 3: Bengals organization. And uh, seeing him out in the field
Speaker 3: throwing and and I'll tell you looks pretty damn good
Speaker 3: to me. Man. He is he's snrolling the ball. The
Speaker 3: ball is coming off his hand very fluidly, very easily,
Speaker 3: very smoothly. He's uh, he's directing the football exceptionally well.
Speaker 3: His his accuracy is still pinpoint. I haven't seen any
Speaker 3: any drop or any change in that. And you know,
Speaker 3: the thing that Joe Burrow has is is just a
Speaker 3: it's it's almost like the movie The Natural. He just
Speaker 3: has a feel for the game. He understands football about
Speaker 3: as well as it could be understood, you know. He
Speaker 3: he if he we're going to UH school at the
Speaker 3: collegiate level and studying football, he'd have his doctorate and
Speaker 3: be going for his doctor at plus thirty or whatever
Speaker 3: the hell it would be. He's he's an incredible, incredible
Speaker 3: athlete physically and mentally, and it really does. It puts
Speaker 3: a bounce in the step of everybody, you know, coaching staff, uh, players,
Speaker 3: everybody involved in the Cincinnati Bengals when they see Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow at that locker. And it has been interesting to
Speaker 3: watch guys come by Joe Burrow's locker and you know,
Speaker 3: sit down next to him and the empty locker and
Speaker 3: talk to him and you know, get get a feel
Speaker 3: for what what he's doing and how he feels. And
Speaker 3: they come come away from it, you can see a
Speaker 3: different a different like I said before, bouncing their step,
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit different gait as they're as
Speaker 3: they're looking upon their day.
Speaker 2: The the initial speculation nationally what all this has happened was, uh,
Speaker 2: maybe mid December, and now we're we're looking at speculation
Speaker 2: of maybe Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: a little bit early. Maybe it's Buffalo the next week.
Speaker 2: I just know this. It was fifty seven days from
Speaker 2: the surgery to his return to the practice field. And yeah,
Speaker 2: you could argue Joe's had a lot of practice unfortunately rehabbed.
Speaker 2: But you talk about sinking your all into a rehab
Speaker 2: to get back for your team. This quickly says a
Speaker 2: lot about Joe Burrow. Well, it didn't need to be said,
Speaker 2: because I think everybody knew and respected it. But I'll
Speaker 2: say it. He put a lot into this to get
Speaker 2: back to this.
Speaker 3: Point, no doubt. I mean he invested everything, you know,
Speaker 3: all of his time, all of his energy, and he
Speaker 3: wants to play. He loves his teammates, his teammates love him.
Speaker 3: He wants to be part of it. It's like he's
Speaker 3: got a big hole in his stomach, in his heart,
Speaker 3: you know, and other organs probably in his body when
Speaker 3: he's not able to go out there and do his
Speaker 3: thing because he is he's a high level, high producing
Speaker 3: quarterback in the National Football League and he's a leader.
Speaker 3: There's the undisputed leader of the football team. And it's
Speaker 3: just not the same when when Joe Burrow's not at
Speaker 3: the helm and hopefully as sooner rather than later, and
Speaker 3: that twenty one day deal, it's he doesn't have to
Speaker 3: sit out the whole twenty one day. He can be
Speaker 3: activated at any time. There as long as the coaches
Speaker 3: feel like he's ready. And then even more importantly or
Speaker 3: equally important to that is the training staff and Joey
Speaker 3: Bostay and everybody. Are they good with how Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: is physically and can he handle the riggers in the
Speaker 3: physicality of the NFL.
Speaker 2: If let's let's play it out, he's clearly he's been
Speaker 2: cleared to do what he's doing. If that continues to
Speaker 2: be the case and he feels good, would there be
Speaker 2: any hesitation? I'm one who I tended to fall to.
Speaker 2: Players play, and if they're healthy and they want to play,
Speaker 2: and they're cleared to play, they play. You know. The
Speaker 2: other side of the argument, the elephant of the room is, well,
Speaker 2: if if they lose this game to the Patriots and
Speaker 2: they're sitting at three and eight, right, what's the use
Speaker 2: of playing Joe Burrow? But man, Joe's only played a
Speaker 2: game and a half this season, and if he's worked
Speaker 2: his tail off to get back and he feels and medically,
Speaker 2: they say, green light, do you play Joe Burrow? Yes?
Speaker 3: And because I mean Joe Burrow, will He'll demand to
Speaker 3: me play? You know? He he You're right, I mean
Speaker 3: he he is Uh. He is rehabbing like a banshee
Speaker 3: every single day with the thought in mind that I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go out there and play football, the game I love,
Speaker 3: the game I've done my entire life, and I am
Speaker 3: going to show my teammates the way I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 3: gonna lead the way. I'm going to be a beacon
Speaker 3: of light for my team and for this organization, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna win football games. And you never know what
Speaker 3: will happen around league. Maybe somebody else suffer assisting of
Speaker 3: an injury at a key position, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: they're a different football team. So you know, you play
Speaker 3: it out man, and and uh, and Joe Burrow is
Speaker 3: ready to do that for sure.
Speaker 2: Boy, I think of of messaging and optics. If Joe
Speaker 2: works his tail off this hard to get back and
Speaker 2: and he wants to, and he's been medically cleared, and
Speaker 2: and there's a debate, well, we're not going to play
Speaker 2: him because we're out of it. What does it say
Speaker 2: to the rest of the tea. I just think it'd
Speaker 2: be a weird message to everybody else who's banged up,
Speaker 2: and I know they're not QB one making fifty million year.
Speaker 2: But for anybody else banged up or gone through a
Speaker 2: lot this season, if they suddenly looking, your team says, well, no,
Speaker 2: we're not going to play Joe because the season might
Speaker 2: be I just that's that's a tough message.
Speaker 3: It is. It's a bad message, and it's a double standard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, you know, you can't have a
Speaker 3: set of rules for everybody and then another set of
Speaker 3: rules for Joe Burrow because he's Joe Burrow. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like that now you're playing with fire.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and we've heard he's he's using a I haven't.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's seen it, a protective type thing
Speaker 2: in the built into the shoe to help the toe.
Speaker 2: So there's precautions being taken there. And I think having
Speaker 2: said all this, will still would we'll still kind of
Speaker 2: hold her breath because you don't want him to get
Speaker 2: hurt again. I mean, there's excitement that he's that he's
Speaker 2: back and he'd be cleared and to be okay, you
Speaker 2: just don't want to get him hurt again. And that's
Speaker 2: just the way it is. You know, you I went
Speaker 2: your quarterback hurt.
Speaker 3: Right, and you know early on I'm not sure in
Speaker 3: games if he'll be wearing that boot, he might just
Speaker 3: have a really you know, tape job that is extensive
Speaker 3: and taping the heck out of it where he can't
Speaker 3: even ben it, can't move it at all. Because, like
Speaker 3: you said, Lance, the worst thing, a nightmare that can't
Speaker 3: be imagined would be if he goes out there and
Speaker 3: re injures it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think in the end it can be
Speaker 2: as simple as if medically he's cleared and he wants
Speaker 2: to play.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean if somebody says, well, he's eighty percent, then
Speaker 2: I'm saying, well, I don't know, right, if he's seventy
Speaker 2: five percent, if he's sixty, I don't want any I
Speaker 2: want one hundred percent. If you tell me he's one
Speaker 2: hundred percent cleared and he's in his mind ready to play,
Speaker 2: then he goes out and plays football, because that's who
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah. In the game of football is you can be
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. You can have played five, six, seven
Speaker 3: years never been hurt, and then boom, Yeah in year
Speaker 3: eight you're hurt. You're hurt in week one and you
Speaker 3: might miss the entire season or a half of or
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. That's uh, that's that's life
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. But like you say, everybody
Speaker 3: looks at the contract and the dollars that Joe Burrow's
Speaker 3: being paid, and you know understandably, so that's that's part
Speaker 3: of professional sports these days and any any one of
Speaker 3: the major professional sports. But you're right, in my mind,
Speaker 3: I would not mess with it. If he is ninety
Speaker 3: nine point nine percent, I want him one hundred percent
Speaker 3: to go out in that football field and do his thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's be honest. And you said at the start
Speaker 2: of the show, the way that this season, unfortunately has trended,
Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of people's futures in doubt. And
Speaker 2: if I'm part of the coaching staff, I want Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow playing because no disrespect to Joe Flacco. We love
Speaker 2: what Joe Flacco has brought to help the store team.
Speaker 2: But Joe Burrow is Joe Burrow, and that's one of
Speaker 2: a handful of the best quarterbacks in the NFL who
Speaker 2: gives you a better chance to win football game.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you want your best players out on the football
Speaker 3: field giving you the best chance to win as many
Speaker 3: games as you possibly can.
Speaker 2: We roll on on this Monday Night, talking about what
Speaker 2: happened yesterday, talking about what could happen in the future,
Speaker 2: and that includes a look at the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2: A little bit later on in the eight o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: it's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Down the stretch we go in our second
Speaker 2: of three big hours to night of Bengals Line on
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW and Dave
Speaker 2: looking at the big picture before we get into our
Speaker 2: third hour tonight. Here a little bit more from Zach.
Speaker 2: Here a little bit more from Joe Flacco. It is amazing.
Speaker 2: It's part of the drama that is the NFL, the
Speaker 2: greatest reality show on earth. The uncertainty of year to year.
Speaker 2: You may be bad one year, you're suddenly good the
Speaker 2: next year. The salary cap, the scheduling, all that plays
Speaker 2: into There's amazing numbers from year to year, the number
Speaker 2: of tea I think at least four teams every year
Speaker 2: for like the last thirty years have gone from last
Speaker 2: to first at just nuts. And I look at the
Speaker 2: standings this morning and I see, as of today, the
Speaker 2: Ravens would not make the playoffs. There five and five,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs would make the playoffs. They're five and five
Speaker 2: over the NFC. The Lions would not make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's the beauty of the NFL. From
Speaker 2: a TV marketing standpoint, it's got to be the frustration
Speaker 2: of building football teams. Sometimes you just don't know. One
Speaker 2: year to the next things happen and there's a there's
Speaker 2: i mean, Denver's nine and two, New England's nine and two.
Speaker 2: Who saw New England being nine and two. It's just
Speaker 2: that's life in the NFL.
Speaker 3: No, you're you're absolutely right, and uh you know what,
Speaker 3: what a what a coaching job has taken place in
Speaker 3: New England. I mean they are just talk about turning
Speaker 3: it around. I mean Drake Mays has had a hell
Speaker 3: of an impact on that organization, on that on that
Speaker 3: football team. Uh, they're they're playing, they're playing really really well,
Speaker 3: a good brand of football. But there's not a team
Speaker 3: in the NFL that hasn't lost two games, you know,
Speaker 3: and and like you say, rattling off the teams that
Speaker 3: are at five hundred, that's why, that's why the Bengals
Speaker 3: could have gotten this one at four six there one
Speaker 3: game out with you know, with eight to play, they're
Speaker 3: definitely still you know, in the hunt. But the one
Speaker 3: thing you can't do is cashing your chips as a player.
Speaker 3: You can't say it's over now, you know, we're done.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a it's a big piece
Speaker 3: of history there. So uh, you know, they they they
Speaker 3: have to they have to keep their nose to the grindstone,
Speaker 3: keep keep preparing. Like you know, you're you're fighting for uh,
Speaker 3: your division title, you're fighting for a playoff birth, You're
Speaker 3: you're fighting for your professional career. And there's a lot
Speaker 3: to a lot to be said for that, you know,
Speaker 3: and and going that mindset, and.
Speaker 2: They think of the way things turn. I mean, who
Speaker 2: would have Indianapolis is eight and two with Daniel Jones
Speaker 2: as their quarterback? Nobody could have imagined that coming. And
Speaker 2: yet here here we are with where the cults are
Speaker 2: standing right now. It's incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the beauty of sports, you know, is if
Speaker 3: you think you can, uh, you can make uh pick
Speaker 3: every where, but he's gonna finish in every single division. Yep,
Speaker 3: you get another thing coming, man. I Mean, there's so
Speaker 3: many variables the injury variable. Like you said, what they
Speaker 3: got in the draft from one year to the next,
Speaker 3: what they got in free agency from one year to
Speaker 3: the next, all those kind of things, all the team
Speaker 3: building aspect of things. I mean, you can you can
Speaker 3: change a change a team team around very very quickly,
Speaker 3: like they've done in New England.
Speaker 2: Boy in that that Baltimore Ravens team was once one
Speaker 2: in five and they were giving up I think they've
Speaker 2: given up more points in any five game stretch in
Speaker 2: their franchise history. And people started the doubt them. And
Speaker 2: Lamar was hurt, and now he's healthy, they're playing better defense.
Speaker 2: And you look up in Baltimore is now five and
Speaker 2: five and right here come the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And when you have quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, you know, don't don't don't count those teams out.
Speaker 3: Don't count them out too soon, because stranger things have
Speaker 3: happened and uh, and these guys are uber competitive, there's
Speaker 3: no question about it. And they would love nothing more
Speaker 3: than to change everybody's plans the way things are unfolding.
Speaker 2: By the way, to end the our final thought, I
Speaker 2: meant to ask you this earlier. Much was made of
Speaker 2: the swaying goal post yesterday with the wind. What tell
Speaker 2: me what was it like?
Speaker 7: Visual?
Speaker 2: It was the wind and the impact on yesterday's game
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wind was a was an issue, was a factor.
Speaker 3: I thought that that the players handled it pretty darn
Speaker 3: well though, you know, I mean, I think they made it.
Speaker 3: It impacted the game minimally, you know, really it was
Speaker 3: almost inconsequential, which you know, you got to applaud the
Speaker 3: effort of everybody for that. So you take the wind
Speaker 3: into account, but you don't let it dominate your thinking.
Speaker 2: By the way, as much as I don't like the
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers that renegade, that scene in that stadium with
Speaker 2: that music playing.
Speaker 3: Is just it is it really is. I mean, the
Speaker 3: fan base that is something they they they wait on
Speaker 3: that with baited breath, man they do, and they let
Speaker 3: it roll.
Speaker 7: Let it go, man, they do.
Speaker 2: All Right, that's two in the books. We've got one
Speaker 2: more to get to, a little bit more from Zach
Speaker 2: Taylor on yesterday's defeat, a little bit more from Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2: We'll do fun facts here that from Dan Horton. Get
Speaker 2: into those Patriots a little bit more as we head
Speaker 2: down the stretch. Oh and also remind me, Dave Lapham,
Speaker 2: I've got our final segment. Final segment. It was this date.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a little hint here. It was this date,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five. It was Bengals Bill's Ken Anderson through
Speaker 2: the Air, OJ on the ground. Yeah, Monday Night Football.
Speaker 2: It happened on this date. I might have to ask
Speaker 2: you for memories of that game.
Speaker 3: Okay, as we continue.
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Speaker 2: Thirty four twelve the final Yesterday's the Bengals dropped a
Speaker 2: three and seven on the season with the Laws. So
Speaker 2: let's get more from the coach. Here's Zach with the
Speaker 2: media after the game.
Speaker 4: You got to give them credit. They did the things
Speaker 4: you gotta do to win these games. AFC Now North
Speaker 4: November December Football. They did it, you know, and they
Speaker 4: tackled better. They won the turner of battle two to nothing,
Speaker 4: and that's the recipe for success.
Speaker 3: And I think.
Speaker 4: Ultimately the score, the score is not indicative of how
Speaker 4: the game played through through the first three quarters, but
Speaker 4: it is what it is. They did the things you
Speaker 4: gotta win and so they got a chance to run
Speaker 4: away with it. And it was really frustrating and disappointing
Speaker 4: because this is not what we expected to run. But
Speaker 4: so what we did, you was to turn a battle
Speaker 4: two to nothing. That's how it's gonna play out.
Speaker 13: There was yeah, what was happening.
Speaker 4: It got loud, you know, so the communication became a
Speaker 4: problem on one of the timeouts. So your choice is
Speaker 4: just stand there and run no play you know, as
Speaker 4: you're trying to figure out with ten seconds on the
Speaker 4: play clock, and so we called the time out there
Speaker 4: and the delay of game was just again hard to hear.
Speaker 4: So I'm sure we're having to repeat a lot of calls,
Speaker 4: repeat calls on my end so that we can hear
Speaker 4: him in the huddle and then repat him in huddle.
Speaker 4: So it's challenging. It was a loud environment, yeah, trying
Speaker 4: to get him jump, trying to get him jump. It's
Speaker 4: it's a tough call. They they are a tough short
Speaker 4: yardage unit to go against. So yeah, it's it's that
Speaker 4: that's a decision worth criticizing. I'm not going to doubt that.
Speaker 4: But that was we went into the game film like
Speaker 4: that was an opportunity for us and didn't work out.
Speaker 9: Did you feel like you were going to get momento
Speaker 9: after just throw, you know, just because all that happened beforehand,
Speaker 9: But even did you make you like get a little
Speaker 9: they lost.
Speaker 4: We were just expecting to go score, you know, and
Speaker 4: and uh came away with a field goal. Andra, if
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. So again, I I don't read too
Speaker 4: much into how that situation unfolded. We're just we're just
Speaker 4: trying to call the next play. Oh I didn't. I
Speaker 4: still thought he threw the ball. Well, I mean it
Speaker 4: was as windy a game as ever ever been a
Speaker 4: part of. So as we watched the tape, I don't
Speaker 4: I don't know how much that factor did anything. I
Speaker 4: felt like he was throwing well and probably where he
Speaker 4: wanted to. Maybe he'll tell you different, but again that
Speaker 4: was that was you know, for both teams, it was
Speaker 4: there's a win again. Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 4: I mean it was certainly one of the better games
Speaker 4: they played, and so they gave us those opportunities, you know,
Speaker 4: ten points third halftime after giving out that first drive
Speaker 4: of the game. I was happy with the punts they forced. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: we couldn't capitalize on offense and get enough points on
Speaker 4: the board to take advantage, especially with the ball coming
Speaker 4: out so at the second half, and you know, overall
Speaker 4: in the second half, just the two positions, we just
Speaker 4: got to get him on the ground. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of opportunities to get them on the ground. We're working
Speaker 4: like crazy, talking like it crazy. It's just got to
Speaker 4: show up.
Speaker 6: There's tough.
Speaker 4: I mean, the their defense is a great job. You
Speaker 4: have to give them credit. Well, coach, they have great players.
Speaker 4: You know, we we had some some drives there in
Speaker 4: the first half. We weren't backed up per se, but
Speaker 4: you know, minus ten, minus fifteen felt like we were
Speaker 4: working our way out of that thing, and you just
Speaker 4: can't kind of stall out at midfield, and so just
Speaker 4: didn't sustain, didn't get the exposive plays we we'd like
Speaker 4: to get. And that's you know, that's that's a credit
Speaker 4: to them. That's that's how they played us. And they
Speaker 4: were going to make us go to the link of
Speaker 4: the field, and we just weren't able to do that
Speaker 4: in the first half. I saw that first drive, yeah,
Speaker 4: because we we had them behind the sticks plenty of times,
Speaker 4: you know, and I think that was it was great,
Speaker 4: you know for our guys to do that and and
Speaker 4: some opportunities to take advantage of and and so then
Speaker 4: when they convert, Yeah, that takes the win out of
Speaker 4: you a little bit. Yeah, they again, I don't I
Speaker 4: don't think we we were ever in a tremendous rhythm
Speaker 4: in any facet. And and you have to credit them,
Speaker 4: you know. They they had a great plan, They played
Speaker 4: well at times, we found some momentum and just it
Speaker 4: wasn't enough of that to to go out and score
Speaker 4: enough points to win in the game keeping school there, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean these guys are in emotional matchups. We all
Speaker 4: know that there's a lot at stake for teams. There's
Speaker 4: a lot at stake for these individuals. It's competitive when
Speaker 4: when you got great players going against great players, it's
Speaker 4: going to be emotional at times. And jamar Is always
Speaker 4: do an excellent job of of controlling what you can control,
Speaker 4: and and so I respect that about them.
Speaker 8: Were able to win.
Speaker 3: He asked you about tackling to a point.
Speaker 2: Where you guys.
Speaker 6: And games that you might personnel changes to see if
Speaker 6: that can help tackling exactly.
Speaker 5: Might be about.
Speaker 9: But on the.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I didn't see any of it. I got the worst
Speaker 4: view in the house. So I again, they didn't call
Speaker 4: us for anything. So I'm proud of our guys I
Speaker 4: I have. I have the worst eating house, no idea.
Speaker 4: You you feel them, you feel all the losses that
Speaker 4: you feel them all they eat at you all. You know,
Speaker 4: we're working, We're working like crazy to make sure that
Speaker 4: this doesn't happen. It happened today is disappointing. Our option
Speaker 4: is come back tomorrow and keep fighting and find a
Speaker 4: way to get a win. And we got a red
Speaker 4: hot team coming in here, and so what that's what
Speaker 4: we're gonna do. We're gonna do everything we can to
Speaker 4: clean this up, correct the mistakes, get back to work.
Speaker 4: And fight another week and find a way to get
Speaker 4: a win. Same just what I just said, the same thing.
Speaker 8: Opportunities just to kind of tighten things.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know it's we were our goals would
Speaker 4: be three and oer in the division, you know, coming
Speaker 4: out of this game. And that's that's not how out
Speaker 4: New England. I mean, it's simple, find a way to
Speaker 4: scratch and call and get a win and get the
Speaker 4: feeling we had back three weeks ago and we'd beat Pittsburgh,
Speaker 4: you know, and gave us a good opportunity. And so
Speaker 4: that's where we're back to. We're back to just find
Speaker 4: a way to get a win against New England and
Speaker 4: try to capitalize when them. That is our only option right.
Speaker 2: Now, Zach after the game yesterday, early on a couple
Speaker 2: of points during the game. Early on, Bengals score on
Speaker 2: their first drive, there's a penalty that moves the ball
Speaker 2: to the one. I had no issue with Zach going
Speaker 2: for two at that right right, probably would have gone
Speaker 2: with a different play. I don't know if I run
Speaker 2: into the teeth of the Steeler defense on it. But
Speaker 2: did you have a problem from the start with the
Speaker 2: opportunity to go for two? No, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I had no issue with the
Speaker 3: decision that was made there. I mean, if you can't
Speaker 3: make a yard, you don't deserve it, you know, so,
Speaker 3: but I agree with you. I think the play selection,
Speaker 3: in hindsight, I think Zach would have gone in a
Speaker 3: different direction as well.
Speaker 2: One other aspect of this offense that is maddening, Dave
Speaker 2: is how long it seems to take them to get
Speaker 2: plays in that lead to timeouts or or delay of game.
Speaker 2: There was one point Joe Flacco turned to the sideline
Speaker 2: and kind of had his arms up like that, and
Speaker 2: Zach was like, what And it's just that that has
Speaker 2: to be fixed. That that delay is just because any
Speaker 2: quarterback would want as much time, and Joe Burrow specifically
Speaker 2: is so good processing at the line, you want to
Speaker 2: give him time and not rush things. And so many
Speaker 2: times things seemed rushed to get a playoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's no excuse for you know, time management
Speaker 3: issues where you know you're literally going down in the
Speaker 3: last second and having to quick snap the football or
Speaker 3: you know, not having to burn timeouts in order to
Speaker 3: you know, alleviate a penalty that would be incurred otherwise.
Speaker 3: I mean, those are the kind of things that from
Speaker 3: a game management standpoint, you just you just can't you
Speaker 3: just can't really have. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: like Zach's, you know, talking to Dan Pitcher and other
Speaker 3: members of the offense, and everybody's got opinions and everybody's
Speaker 3: sworn opinions out, and there's you know, they don't have
Speaker 3: enough time to sort through it all. If that's the case,
Speaker 3: that has to be remedied, I mean you have to,
Speaker 3: you have to have I remember Bill Walsh. I saw
Speaker 3: his play sheet for a game one time, and every
Speaker 3: single down in distance he had two or three things
Speaker 3: that he was going to be thinking about so he
Speaker 3: would get to the crux of it right away. And Okay,
Speaker 3: based on what I've seen so far, it's the first
Speaker 3: quarter of the game, I haven't really seen all that much.
Speaker 3: Let's try this. Well, okay, I've seen a lot more
Speaker 3: snaps of what they're doing defensively. Next time that comes up,
Speaker 3: sure and make a notation and he'd be over there
Speaker 3: like a mad you know, mad professor writing on his
Speaker 3: on his play by play sheet. You know, but those
Speaker 3: I think those are the guys who have a lot
Speaker 3: of success. Uh, you know preparation. He burned the midnight
Speaker 3: hours man he was. He was all about preparation for
Speaker 3: the game. So when when the game unfolded, he was ready.
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Take a time out and continue a little
Speaker 2: hear a little bit more from Joe Flacco as we
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco again, one hundred and ninety nine yards through
Speaker 2: the air, through a touchdown, through a pick six, one
Speaker 2: up with thequarterback rating of sixty eight point six years
Speaker 2: more from Joe after the game.
Speaker 3: Listen to me.
Speaker 5: We're halfway through the season. Basically, it's a little bit
Speaker 5: more now, but it really is so tough to look
Speaker 5: at it that way. I think it's easy to get
Speaker 5: caught up in that stuff, But you know it, I
Speaker 5: I really try to remove myself from those situations and
Speaker 5: just go play football. And I think if you do that,
Speaker 5: that's when you give yourself the best chance to be
Speaker 5: in the best position you want. Obviously, that's there lingering
Speaker 5: and you know, the opportunity and all that stuff, but
Speaker 5: you got to try to avoid getting caught up in
Speaker 5: those things are you're trying to manage the pain in
Speaker 5: the shoulder. How much worse did he get after?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, that's football. He did a good job.
Speaker 5: He buried me in the turf. But uh but I
Speaker 5: felt good, you know, felt good all game.
Speaker 6: Did they changed much the way they attack Jamara?
Speaker 5: Well, I think they made sure that. They probably did
Speaker 5: it more. Just they probably had a couple of guys
Speaker 5: on him more often than they did in the first game.
Speaker 5: And you know, that's why they're a good football team.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: And we knew, we knew they're gonna make adjustments and
Speaker 5: come in here and and play better than they did
Speaker 5: the first time we played them, and we just gotta
Speaker 5: we gotta match that.
Speaker 8: Two safeties would do gooder than that five.
Speaker 5: Did they did they change much bigger? Listen? I think
Speaker 5: everything they did we kind of had a plan for
Speaker 5: and and and could see that you know, why they
Speaker 5: were doing it and the fact that they were going
Speaker 5: to do it. You have to ask them, I mean
Speaker 5: in terms of what they feel like they can do
Speaker 5: and and and you know, I know, those guys are
Speaker 5: good players. And anytime you get your best players out there,
Speaker 5: you feel you feel like you got a you know,
Speaker 5: a good thing going.
Speaker 9: Do you feel like there was a miss in terms
Speaker 9: of point when they lose their safety too, do you
Speaker 9: look at the situation orrey down do the secondary and
Speaker 9: you know whatever?
Speaker 5: I just think I just think the way they were
Speaker 5: playing that stuff mattered. Obviously it matters over the long haul.
Speaker 5: But the way they were playing and trying to double
Speaker 5: guys and doing those things and just trying to get
Speaker 5: pressure with their front. I don't think it was one
Speaker 5: of those things where you could, you know, start drawing
Speaker 5: stuff up and take advantage of because guys were out.
Speaker 5: I think they were still sticking to their plan and
Speaker 5: doing what they were gonna do against.
Speaker 7: Us made so many you've made it, so.
Speaker 6: Many eight teams here.
Speaker 8: When did you begin to think that they might.
Speaker 5: Be you know, equipment and ground well no. I mean, listen,
Speaker 5: these games, you know they're gonna be battles. And even
Speaker 5: though this looks like a lot, it looks really bad.
Speaker 5: It's one of those typical games that you come playing
Speaker 5: here and all of a sudden it breaks loose and
Speaker 5: it goes the other way. But this you felt it today.
Speaker 5: It was a hard, physical game. They you knew they
Speaker 5: were gonna make it tough, tough for it for us,
Speaker 5: and we just didn't come through in those couple of
Speaker 5: little moments. You know, they got two touchdowns on defense
Speaker 5: and got everybody excited and we're able to pin their
Speaker 5: ears back and do their thing. And you know, that's
Speaker 5: what this game comes down to. It's it's one or
Speaker 5: two plays that you can look back on, and obviously
Speaker 5: there's more than that and just the consistency of it,
Speaker 5: but there's always those plays. And it comes down to
Speaker 5: just playing and winning football and and and kind of
Speaker 5: waiting for your opportunity and you know, not letting not
Speaker 5: letting yourself get too far out ahead of yourself, and
Speaker 5: and trying to make things happen when they're not going to.
Speaker 5: And I don't really think we were doing that today,
Speaker 5: but we obviously you know, just we weren't able to wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 5: wait and strike. We uh, we made mistakes and they capitalized.
Speaker 5: I don't think so, I I I, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: And you know, I didn't pay much attention to it
Speaker 5: during the game, but you like it, it was windy
Speaker 5: out there. You could tell pregame ball was moving around.
Speaker 5: I don't think I've seen it like that before. I
Speaker 5: don't think so. I. I, like I said, I don't.
Speaker 5: I think during the game it r it really didn't
Speaker 5: end up playing, you know, being a huge factor Georgian defense.
Speaker 5: But the team I thought they did a lot of
Speaker 5: good things today. You know, it's just a shame in
Speaker 5: the way that you know, we're kind of not managing
Speaker 5: each other right now and playing both sides as well
Speaker 5: as we can at the same time.
Speaker 3: So I know you your jobbing on the sidelines. But
Speaker 3: the extent you got to.
Speaker 8: See defensive at all, was there anything to your eyes
Speaker 8: that looked different about what they.
Speaker 5: Were doing well today versus it looked like they got
Speaker 5: you know, it looked like they were pinning their ears
Speaker 5: back a little bit more and playing with some confidence
Speaker 5: and playing with some speed, so they were able to
Speaker 5: kind of you know, break through the line a little
Speaker 5: bit and you know, get in the backfield a little
Speaker 5: bit more. And I just it just looked like they
Speaker 5: were playing faster.
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco after the game and Dave, one thing was
Speaker 2: very clear. The Steelers took a much different approach to
Speaker 2: how they were going to handle Tea and Jamar this time.
Speaker 2: In the first meeting, Jamar and t were targeted thirty
Speaker 2: three times and had twenty two catches. Yesterday, Tea and
Speaker 2: Jamar combined for six catches on eighteen targets.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Steelers certainly made the made their adjustments and weren't
Speaker 2: gonna let Jamar Chase go off like he did the
Speaker 2: first meeting.
Speaker 3: No, I mean they were like fly paper. I mean
Speaker 3: they had they had somebody. It was me and my
Speaker 3: shadow for both of those guys. I mean they they
Speaker 3: had people, you know, picking them up immediately once they
Speaker 3: came off the line of scrimmage. And I saw in
Speaker 3: both cases, said, you know, double teams almost every single
Speaker 3: snap as they were in the process of running their routes,
Speaker 3: and sometimes it'd be a you know, a third defensive
Speaker 3: player would work their way over in that direction and
Speaker 3: then and then get involved so they had those two targeted.
Speaker 3: They know that a big reason they lost the first
Speaker 3: matchup was because of those two, because of Jamar Chase
Speaker 3: and t Higgins. So they were going to neutralize those
Speaker 3: efforts and uh and and and diminish their contribution for sure,
Speaker 3: and I think they probably feel like that's a big
Speaker 3: reason that they won the rematch.
Speaker 2: Stick around more to get to, including Dan's weekly segment
Speaker 2: that we love fun facts talking with the Pride of
Speaker 2: Saint X Bengals quarterback Sean Clifford. Ahead, plus we'll get
Speaker 2: into those New England Patriots and what Mike Vrabel has
Speaker 2: done with that team. All ahead, as we rock and
Speaker 2: roll through a Monday night of talking Bengals football and
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Speaker 2: we're back on Bengals Line of this Monday night on
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Speaker 2: yesterday and about to look ahead before we're done at
Speaker 2: those New England Patriots on this Monday night and.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Dan, each week we take a listen to
Speaker 2: his Fantastic Fun Fact segment. We love it he gets
Speaker 2: behind the scenes with a Bengal In this week, behind
Speaker 2: the scenes with the Pride of Saint X, the former
Speaker 2: Saint X quarterback Bengals quarterback. Here is Dan with Sean Clifford.
Speaker 1: No Fantastic Fun Facts with Dan Ord.
Speaker 6: Time for some fun facts with quarterback Sean Clifford, a
Speaker 6: local kid out of Saint Xavier High School here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: You haven't had the opportunity to play in a game
Speaker 6: yet for the Bengals, but describe what it's been like
Speaker 6: for you to go to work every day at pay
Speaker 6: Court Stadium.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I think it means lots of my family first and foremost.
Speaker 11: You know, the the Cliffords have been living here for
Speaker 11: over twenty years now, and you know, we really truly
Speaker 11: call this place a home. So just being able to
Speaker 11: go to work with a great group of guys, great
Speaker 11: coaching staff, and great front office. I think that all together,
Speaker 11: it just means a little extra. I know it means
Speaker 11: a lot to the guys in this locker room, but
Speaker 11: for me personally, you know, it is personal. So it's
Speaker 11: been a it's been a pleasure to be here so
Speaker 11: far and looking get some wins in the future.
Speaker 6: Did you attend a lot of Bengals games when you
Speaker 6: were young, and if so, do any specific memories stand out.
Speaker 11: We would, We would go to games all the time.
Speaker 11: But my senior year, my parents actually got my brother
Speaker 11: and I season tickets for just for my senior year
Speaker 11: and his eighth grade year. And if you know brother,
Speaker 11: the brother connection, obviously you bicker and you fight each
Speaker 11: other for so long. And it was actually funny because
Speaker 11: in my last year before I left for college and
Speaker 11: his first year going into high school. You know, it
Speaker 11: was that opportunity to go to the Bengals games where
Speaker 11: I feel like we really developed that best friendship and
Speaker 11: then it carries on today. You know, that's my right
Speaker 11: hand man. So I owe a lot to this team
Speaker 11: just from being a fan first and foremost. My brother
Speaker 11: and I would always talk about it were I was
Speaker 11: able to the first game point out to Zach the
Speaker 11: exact spot where I was sitting, you know, almost a
Speaker 11: decade ago. So it's it's really cool to be back
Speaker 11: on the field contributing to a team. Maybe not on
Speaker 11: the field, but from a week to week perspective, just
Speaker 11: giving it at my all and trying to find a
Speaker 11: way to win.
Speaker 6: We're visiting with Sean Clifford. One of the most memorable
Speaker 6: moments in the Bengal Super Bowl run in twenty twenty
Speaker 6: one was the playoff game in Tennessee where Joe Burrow
Speaker 6: got sacked nine times and the Bengals still won the game.
Speaker 6: You did that in the state championship game for Saint
Speaker 6: X back in twenty sixteen. Describe that season because it
Speaker 6: was not a smooth ride for the Bombers.
Speaker 11: Yeah, very similar to this year. I think, you know,
Speaker 11: the at least the opportunity. You know, we went five
Speaker 11: and five in the regular season. Steve Speck actually wrote
Speaker 11: a book about that season. But when five and five,
Speaker 11: I had injuries. We had injuries going into the season.
Speaker 11: I think that we had five starters out by the
Speaker 11: first week. So, you know, it was a lot of
Speaker 11: ups and downs, but put together some good wins in
Speaker 11: the back end, made it into the playoffs, is a
Speaker 11: very late seed, and then rode that momentum all the
Speaker 11: way to the state championship, and I think that you know,
Speaker 11: you in those situations, you know, I compare it, you
Speaker 11: can compare it in every level.
Speaker 14: You know, you just got to find a way to
Speaker 14: string together wins.
Speaker 11: But then once you get to the big dance and
Speaker 11: it's one game at a time, anything can happen. So
Speaker 11: I think that that's always been on mindset is you know,
Speaker 11: a season's long, it's gonna be tough, and there's gonna
Speaker 11: be ups and downs, but weathering that storm and being
Speaker 11: able to at least get to the final that you know,
Speaker 11: that final show, then anybody can win every single week.
Speaker 11: So it's just about putting putting enough together, you know,
Speaker 11: because you're gonna face adversity, But if you can put
Speaker 11: enough together to get to that point, then you can
Speaker 11: catch a hot streak.
Speaker 6: From a state championship at Saint X, it was on
Speaker 6: to Penn State, where you spent six years. Why did
Speaker 6: you choose the Niitney Lions.
Speaker 14: It really came down to James Franklin and I hate
Speaker 14: to see him go.
Speaker 11: It was tough to see him go, for sure, And
Speaker 11: I know a lot of guys in that locker room,
Speaker 11: uh are still feeling that just because you know, James
Speaker 11: was such a great guy, a family man, somebody who
Speaker 11: really preached, you know, the same mantra similar to Saint
Speaker 11: x Men for others. You know, it was kind of
Speaker 11: the same way at Penn State, and my mom really
Speaker 11: fell in love with the idea of me going to
Speaker 11: that school. Thank god she did, because I really, you know,
Speaker 11: she she was a big proponent of going to Penn State. Uh,
Speaker 11: staying committed the whole way through, committing early and staying admitted.
Speaker 14: So I owe a lot to my parents for kind
Speaker 14: of steering me in that direction. I always love.
Speaker 11: Penn State, but once I got there, it's around the people,
Speaker 11: you know, Pennsylvania. I really consider Pennsylvania and Ohio to
Speaker 11: be the two spots that I really love Midwest kid
Speaker 11: through and through, that's for sure.
Speaker 6: After a record setting career at Penn State, you were
Speaker 6: a fifth round draft pick by the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 6: Describe your draft experience.
Speaker 14: It was a crazy one.
Speaker 11: I you know, I didn't get invited to the combine,
Speaker 11: was counted out a bunch of different times, and then
Speaker 11: as I kind of told my story through the draft
Speaker 11: process the scouts and kind of worked my way up
Speaker 11: to to the GM level and the coaches level. I
Speaker 11: think that my story is all about heart and will
Speaker 11: and what I can provide from a value perspective to
Speaker 11: a team.
Speaker 14: And it's it's a day to day thing.
Speaker 11: You know, you're gonna get my best every single day,
Speaker 11: doesn't matter. You know, if it's if it's a Monday
Speaker 11: or Tuesday off day, or if it's game day. You know,
Speaker 11: I'm gonna give it my all because I'm I always
Speaker 11: like to think I'm an ultimate competitor. I want to
Speaker 11: win as much as the next guy, and I'll do
Speaker 11: whatever it takes for my teammates to be able to
Speaker 11: get that done.
Speaker 14: I think that, you know, green Bay heard that.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 11: In the process, Cincinnati, you know, I was talking to
Speaker 11: brad Our quarterback coach as well, and he even reminded
Speaker 11: me that, you know, they weren't taking a quarterback in
Speaker 11: the draft, but if I did slip outside of the draft,
Speaker 11: you know, since he was gonna try to be the
Speaker 11: first call that they make to get me here. So
Speaker 11: I always appreciated them. But Green Bay, you know, took
Speaker 11: that shot in the fifth round. You know, I was
Speaker 11: able to back up Jay Love for a couple of years,
Speaker 11: and I thought that the bonds that I created in
Speaker 11: that locker room, I have a lot of respect for
Speaker 11: how the Packers.
Speaker 14: Run their organization. It's just a it's a it's a
Speaker 14: well run show.
Speaker 11: And I think that it really helped me early in
Speaker 11: my career to be able to see how it's done.
Speaker 11: So that way, you know, I can bring that that
Speaker 11: energy and that mindset into places like this.
Speaker 6: We're visiting with Sean Clifford. You join the Bengals in
Speaker 6: September following Joe Burrow's injury. Do all of your Cincinnati
Speaker 6: friends and family members as what's Joe Burrow?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 11: I think it's it's both Joe's now obviously, you know,
Speaker 11: being in the in a room full of Joe's and
Speaker 11: Jake uh, you know, we have three great minds in
Speaker 11: that room that that all contribute in different ways.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 11: I think that Joe Burrow is somebody who has a
Speaker 11: lot of experience early He's an elite, elite talent and
Speaker 11: somebody who I've I it's funny if we we lost
Speaker 11: the game into Minnesota my in twenty nineteen in a
Speaker 11: in a very controversial game that I won't get into
Speaker 11: because referees in my opinion. But if we win that game,
Speaker 11: in which we should have, we actually would have played
Speaker 11: Joe and the l S and the LSU Tigers in
Speaker 11: in the first week of that that playoff. So I've
Speaker 11: always seen him as a great competitor. I've seen him
Speaker 11: as somebody who you know, I have, I have a
Speaker 11: lot of respect for, and so you know, he provides.
Speaker 14: So much value to that room.
Speaker 11: And then you add Joe Flacco in the mix, his
Speaker 11: experience and all the story that he can tell of
Speaker 11: different looks and different players he's played with and how
Speaker 11: to scheme certain ways.
Speaker 14: It truly is incredible to just see the full picture.
Speaker 11: And then you lay in and a get a guy
Speaker 11: like Jake who's done such a good job of backing
Speaker 11: up Joe and coming into big situations and winning games.
Speaker 14: Very blessed to be a part of this room, and
Speaker 14: I think it's.
Speaker 11: Competitive, I think it's exciting, and someone that really pushes
Speaker 11: not only our room, but the players around us as
Speaker 11: well to be their best version of the selves and
Speaker 11: really elevate the competition.
Speaker 6: A few wild card topics now for Bengals quarterback Sean Clifford,
Speaker 6: who is your all time frint athlete in any sport.
Speaker 11: I think Kobe's probably for me, just because of the mindset,
Speaker 11: the mentality, the mama mentality of I think he was
Speaker 11: such a servant leader outside the community. I think that
Speaker 11: he did a lot as you study kind of his
Speaker 11: life and what he did with his family. I think
Speaker 11: from a business perspective, he did so much off the
Speaker 11: field that really really left a mark. From a community perspective,
Speaker 11: he was always pouring back into kids and being able
Speaker 11: to to really give back to that community. But then
Speaker 11: when you turn on the tape and you watch him
Speaker 11: in a game, he turns into a complete nutter savage,
Speaker 11: and I think that that's I think that there's time
Speaker 11: and place for all that. You know, I think that
Speaker 11: you have to be an upstanding, an up stay, and
Speaker 11: a citizen and a good man in the community, and
Speaker 11: I always try to be that, especially now being back
Speaker 11: in the community that gave me so much. But really
Speaker 11: for for a guy like that, you know, when when
Speaker 11: when it's time to play ball, I think it. You know,
Speaker 11: there is a switch that you can turn on and
Speaker 11: it's okay to to kind of get aggressive in that
Speaker 11: situation because you know, all that hard work and dedication
Speaker 11: that you put.
Speaker 14: In to be able to to win and to you know,
Speaker 14: have the chance to win. It's it's it's meaningful.
Speaker 6: Penn State famously wears the most plain uniforms in college football,
Speaker 6: perhaps all of sports. So bland that they're cool or
Speaker 6: time for an update.
Speaker 14: Oh they're cool.
Speaker 11: I'm an old school type guy anyway, so I don't
Speaker 11: think that they need any sort of update. I've always
Speaker 11: appreciated the tradition, and I think that you know, I
Speaker 11: I grew up watching I wasn't a huge NFL guy
Speaker 11: until I really started fall in love with the Bengals,
Speaker 11: but I always appreciated watching college ball and specifically college players,
Speaker 11: and I just always loved I followed a lot of Nordame,
Speaker 11: traditional program, you know, with a lot of a lot
Speaker 11: of good guys, good community guys. And I don't think
Speaker 11: I I knew the importance of that when I was
Speaker 11: just a kid. You know, you're just watching them be
Speaker 11: busy they're on TV. But you know, I followed some
Speaker 11: some some great players just because I was just attracted
Speaker 11: to the way that they held themselves.
Speaker 14: And I think that you find that at Penn State.
Speaker 14: I think you find that in a urdame. You find
Speaker 14: it at.
Speaker 11: Schools that are traditional. So to answer your question, long
Speaker 11: story short, Yeah, I love the uniforms.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 6: Final fun fact for Sean Clifford. This one's kind of deep.
Speaker 6: If you could meet anybody in history, living or deceased,
Speaker 6: who would that person be.
Speaker 11: You know, I'm a Christian man and I think that
Speaker 11: Jesus would be somebody who I love to meet. You know,
Speaker 11: I think that it's He's the ultimate messenger and he's
Speaker 11: the ultimate, you know, warrior when it came to doing
Speaker 11: good in this world. And I think that the conversations
Speaker 11: that you know, I would have and will have one
Speaker 11: day in my in my opinion, will be magical and
Speaker 11: really life changing. So, you know, always trying to dive
Speaker 11: into the word and finding different ways to talk to
Speaker 11: him in different ways, but having an actual sit down conversation,
Speaker 11: maybe over at dinner, it would be really cool.
Speaker 6: Sean, appreciate your time. It's great to have you on
Speaker 6: your hometown team. Best of luck the rest of the year.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Dan Horde with Sean Clifford. For more of the those interviews,
Speaker 2: always check out the Bengals Booth podcast. Take a time
Speaker 2: out and come back, let's figure out what's making those
Speaker 2: New England Patriots tick. They are rolling nine and two
Speaker 2: on the season. Talk a little bit about that club
Speaker 2: is we roll on with Bengals Line at the Bengals
Speaker 2: Radio Network and seven hundred WLW and now on the
Speaker 2: stretch on this Monday night of Bengals Line and the
Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Next up for
Speaker 2: the Bengals the nine and two Patriots, winners of eight
Speaker 2: straight games under coach Mike Vrabel, and they've I was
Speaker 2: struck by a story I read over the weekend about
Speaker 2: the Patriots and what Mike Vrabel has instilled in this
Speaker 2: team and how he has leaned on his team captains
Speaker 2: and sitting a tone. And last week he gave the
Speaker 2: captains he said, look, were later in the season, we
Speaker 2: could lighten up the load today and go inside. What
Speaker 2: do you think And they said, no, we want full
Speaker 2: practice outdoors. And he said on Thursday for the Thursday
Speaker 2: night game short day, he said, should we go with
Speaker 2: the regular team meeting early morning and or I could
Speaker 2: let you guys off and let you clear your head.
Speaker 2: And the team captain said, no regular team meeting. Last
Speaker 2: week on their standard day off. Forty one guys showed
Speaker 2: up on the standard day off. And the whole point
Speaker 2: of the piece was they have bought into hook line
Speaker 2: and sinker and what Mike Vrabel is instilling in that team,
Speaker 2: and they're getting the results and and they're rolling right now.
Speaker 3: They are they are, they're they're probably the hottest team
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. And uh, you know, you're
Speaker 3: gonna give a lot of credit to Mike Vrabel. And
Speaker 3: there's nothing like winning, yep, I mean, winning makes the
Speaker 3: labors of us all no question. Mike Rabel could say,
Speaker 3: you know, I want you to on Wednesdays, I want
Speaker 3: you to put your helmet on and look through the
Speaker 3: year hole. We're going to do that every Wednesday, and
Speaker 3: that's how we're going to practice. And and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: if you win it eight or nine in a row,
Speaker 3: that's that's all good.
Speaker 8: So the the.
Speaker 2: Teams.
Speaker 3: Football teams are creatures of habit, and when you establish
Speaker 3: good habits, you're gonna win football games. That's usually the case.
Speaker 3: And and that's the case for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3: They have turned things around very very quickly. And it's
Speaker 3: always about the quarterback in the National Football league, and
Speaker 3: they get a young quarterback by the name of Drake
Speaker 3: May who's lighting it up. Man. He is playing at
Speaker 3: a very very high level. I mean Tom Brady set
Speaker 3: a high bar in New England. I mean every quarterback
Speaker 3: is always going to be like, oh jeez, in the
Speaker 3: shadow of Tom Brady, how do I crawl out of
Speaker 3: that shadow? Drake May seems to be extremely poised. I
Speaker 3: mean nothing, nothing seems to rattle this kid. He seems very,
Speaker 3: very unflappable. So it's the Patriots have a lot of
Speaker 3: things really going for him. And when you when you
Speaker 3: look at their roster, the starting lineups offensively and defense,
Speaker 3: there's not a whole lot of names you say, oh
Speaker 3: my god, this is a three time Pro bowler. You
Speaker 3: know this guy they got. I mean, it's it's guys,
Speaker 3: you know. But they're they're good football players, and they're
Speaker 3: playing collectively, you know, Synergy one plus one equals three.
Speaker 3: They're playing at such a high level. And I think
Speaker 3: part of it is the you know, the intangible of yeah, Rabel,
Speaker 3: we know we got the best coach in the league.
Speaker 3: We know we're better than every other team in the NFL,
Speaker 3: and that regard. So let's go win games.
Speaker 2: Drake May is completing seventy one point nine. I mean
Speaker 2: there was a time where I mean sixty one was like,
Speaker 2: well you got to throw it complete at least sixty
Speaker 2: percent in the league in a time. And now he's
Speaker 2: at seventy one point too. That that's like a video
Speaker 2: game number.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 3: I mean that that's that's like Tom Brady. It's like
Speaker 3: a Brady number.
Speaker 11: He is.
Speaker 3: He is playing it up in.
Speaker 2: Twenty only five interceptions as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that ratio is outstanding. I mean, this kid's not
Speaker 3: playing like your typical rookie. There's no no question about it.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know he's he's definitely the leader of
Speaker 3: the pack in the Boston fans. I grew up in
Speaker 3: the Boston area, fifteen miles northeast of Boston, Massachusets, and
Speaker 3: I know how those fans can be. So Drake May
Speaker 3: is the toast of the town right now. But that
Speaker 3: can change quickly, yes, But but he is, he's doing things.
Speaker 3: He's doing everything the right way.
Speaker 7: All right, we come back final segment.
Speaker 2: I must ask you to go back in the time
Speaker 2: machine to this date nineteen seventy five for Monday Night football.
Speaker 2: The Bengals and the Bills. As we wrap things up
Speaker 2: next Bengals on and the Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: All right, final segment of the night.
Speaker 2: Let's put a caper on all this with a trip
Speaker 2: back in time. Dave I noticed it was this date,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five, Riverfront Stadium, Monday Night football was in
Speaker 2: town for the first time. That's Howard and Down and
Speaker 2: host Sow. It was Bengals, it was Bills. Kenny throws
Speaker 2: for four hundred and forty seven yards. OJ ran for
Speaker 2: one ninety seven for the Bills. You guys win thirty
Speaker 2: three twenty four to move to eight and one on
Speaker 2: the season. What a night that must have been.
Speaker 3: It was incredible and we end up with a twelve
Speaker 3: and four record. We went to eight and one, and
Speaker 3: that's after that particular game, and it was Monday night
Speaker 3: football in Cincinnati and Dandy Don and the Gifford Frank
Speaker 3: Gifford and Howard co sal it was it was amazing.
Speaker 3: The the energy in that stadium was was nuts. And
Speaker 3: literally the best running back in the National Football League
Speaker 3: O Jay Simpson and in my mind, the best national
Speaker 3: quarterback in the National Football League Kenny Anderson had a
Speaker 3: duel at the OK Corral. Man, I mean they had
Speaker 3: a shootout in thirty three, twenty four. I mean that
Speaker 3: was there was a lot of offense, and I'm sure,
Speaker 3: I'm sure the network was excited as hell to have
Speaker 3: that kind of a game because that was the hype.
Speaker 3: You know, you got, you got explosive offensive football teams
Speaker 3: coming coming in to do do battle and matchup and
Speaker 3: and and they did. It lived up to its billing.
Speaker 3: A lot of times you get the hype and the
Speaker 3: game doesn't live up to the billing. You know, Uh,
Speaker 3: this one, this one more than.
Speaker 2: Did Isaac Curtis seven catches for one hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: nine yards, Chip Meyers seven catches for one hundred and
Speaker 2: eight yards. Arlie Joiner five catches for ninety yards. Holy cow,
Speaker 2: what a trio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he got two over one hundred yards
Speaker 3: and one at ninety that and that's you know, that's
Speaker 3: obviously the most of the four forty seven that Kenny
Speaker 3: Anderson uh threw four. But I mean Chip Myers was
Speaker 3: a big, tall, tough He was a cowboy, went to
Speaker 3: University Wyoming. I mean he literally he literally bulldog Steers
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, you know, I mean, he was
Speaker 3: he was something else. He ended up coaching in the
Speaker 3: National Football League as well, and uh and had a
Speaker 3: had a great career in that and that side of it.
Speaker 3: Charlie Joiner was the thing I remember about Charlie. He
Speaker 3: made this sound when he was running sprints routes. Sounded
Speaker 3: like a human typewriter. It's like, Oh, there he is,
Speaker 3: he's he's breaking free. There's Charlie.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was great, but it and he was. He wasn't
Speaker 3: the biggest guy. I don't think. I don't think he
Speaker 3: was six feet tall. If he was, he was barely
Speaker 3: six feet tall. But man, he played large and he
Speaker 3: was a great teammate. And that's the thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: when you have success and you win games, it's easy,
Speaker 3: you know, in hindsight, it's like they had to have
Speaker 3: good attitudes. Yeah, and everybody did. You know, Paul Brown
Speaker 3: did a great job of, you know, picking talent from
Speaker 3: the collegiate level that was going to mesh in the
Speaker 3: National Football League. And he knew what he wanted. He knew,
Speaker 3: you know, he had Isaac Curtis, the speed guy, and
Speaker 3: then the other two were guys that could work off
Speaker 3: the speed of Isaac Curtis, very very effectively.
Speaker 2: Well, that was a fun way to end it. Well,
Speaker 2: we're fun results yesterday, but that was a fun way
Speaker 2: to end it tonight. Right here this date, nineteen seventy five, man, second.
Speaker 3: Year in the league at the young pup.
Speaker 7: Yes, no doubt about that. We'll take well, we're done. Well,
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, we'll take a time out. Well,
Speaker 7: we'll take our time out for good.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll go there next week and talk about Bengals
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