WEBVTT - 11-17-25 Bengals Line 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.920 Or pay Chorus proud to be the official HR software 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:07.800 provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering ow best Care for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.760 the best Fans, kettering hew official healthcare provider of US 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.560 Cincinnati Bengals. This is seven hundred WLW, the home of 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:18.400 the best Bengals coverage. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.600 All right, let's get it going on this Monday night. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.160 If it's Monday, it's Bengals Line. And that's three rock 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.119 solid hours of conversation coming your way. Thanks for making 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.280 your way here, settled in, We've got you for three 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.320 talking about yesterday's thirty four twelve lost to the Steelers, 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.320 looking ahead of those nine and two red hot New 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.600 England Patriots on Sunday, Lance McAllister, Dave Lapham and Dave. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.520 The day began with coming off the buy the hopes 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.920 and dreams of getting to three and zero in the 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.680 division and making things really interesting and buying a little 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.680 bit of time for Joe Burrow's eventual return. And unfortunately, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.480 as it plays out, it produces a lot of frustration 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.880 and a lot of questions now about where this team 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.080 goes after losing thirty four to twelve. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.440 Well, you're exactly right, Lance, comed up pretty darn well there. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.600 I mean I think that the big deal is, like 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.720 you mentioned, a bunch of questions, you know, I mean, 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.000 what's the future of this football team, not just for 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.680 this season, but what's the future for the football team 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.320 for next year, the year after, you know, the short 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:22.800 term future of the football team. What about the coaches, 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.760 what about the head coach, Zach Taylor? What about assistant coaches? 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.840 Who's safe, who's not a lot of questions that need 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.360 to be answered and ironed out right now. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.559 Boy, And what was really I think disappointing was going 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.839 into the buy. So much is made about the opportunity 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.319 to rest up, do you self, scout, you work on 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.200 some things, and yet you look yesterday, and I think 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.160 it's a fair question to say that was the performance 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.000 coming out of the bye. I think there was an 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.920 expectation there would be more from this team. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.880 Agreed, you know, I think you make another valid point there. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.800 I mean, you have a long time to work on 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.440 things that have not gone well. And uh, you know 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.880 you players understand that. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:06.560 Uh. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.640 Everybody watches tape. The players watch tape, the coaches watch tape, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.639 the organization members watch tape, the owner, the general manager, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.679 everybody is looking at state tape and scourring the tape 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.800 and trying to figure out what is wrong. Where where 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.960 is it disjointed? Where's it where's the synapse? I mean, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.320 it's it's just not the message isn't being carried through. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.840 So you have all that time to work on it. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.040 You feel pretty good about what you're doing. You feel 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.919 pretty good about playing against the Patriots, the Steelers, I 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.240 should say Patriots, the upcoming the Pittsburgh Steelers, who you 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.799 already had beaten, as you say, have a chance to go, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.400 you know, two and oh against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.440 three and oh in the division, and all of it 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:46.720 goes up and smoke boy. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.520 It's just one of those that classic Murphy's law. It's like, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.399 if it's one thing, if it's not one thing, it's another. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.680 On a day where the defense played better, certainly there 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.800 were still issues, but on the day they played better, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.640 your offense only manages one touchdown. In reality, the offense 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.240 allowed two touchdowns with the pick six and then the 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.120 scoop and score off the fumble. It just that's the 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:08.880 way this thing has unfolded this year. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:13.480 Yeah, and in the National Football League, when that dynamic 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.880 happens when you allow to unscripted, unconventional scores and you 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.400 only get one out of your offensive football team. Normally, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.120 it doesn't end up well for you, and it didn't 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.160 in this case as well. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.320 Let's get reaction immediately after the game. Here's Dave with 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:29.960 the coach Zach Taylor. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.160 Tough today coming to Pittsburgh. You knew you were going 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.760 to be playing a really good football team, a sound 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.880 football team. Just didn't didn't work out. What do you 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.440 think with the biggest reasons that didn't win this football game? 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.920 Turner re battle. That's the number one starting point two 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.400 to nothing, two of them led to fourteen points. You're 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.040 rarely going to win in this league when you have 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.240 one for touchdown, two for touchdown is going to really 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.400 set you back, you know. So you an opportunity twenty 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.560 to twelve, you're in field goal range, worst case, you 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.880 feel like you're going to kick a field goal, and 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.000 then Joe's hit as he throws and pick six and 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.400 then turned around with a fumble you know, right away 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.280 on the next one for a touchdowns. So that's not 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.320 winning football. That's not what I was supposed to look like. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.640 Credit to them for taking advantage of that running away 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.960 with it and again losing the turn of battitude. Nothing's 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.240 the best starting point there. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.080 Is for that. Yeah, the final score really doesn't dictate 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.560 or show what the game was like. I mean, for 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.520 three quarters it was a battle. I mean a battle 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.760 where I was, you know, fighting for every inch, tooth 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.120 and nail, every inch of the football field. What were 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.960 you thinking? Did you feel like you were not in control, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.200 but you feel like going to win this football game? 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.800 Absolutely. We've been in a lot of these dog fights 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.000 and had opportunities right until the very last player to 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.080 win the game, So that's not unique. Being down eight 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.200 points felt like at halftime we were in a fine spot. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.240 We're gonna get the ball start the half, came out, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.680 scored points and just never never took control of the game. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.640 There was not a point where we ever took control 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.840 of the game, and they did in the fourth quarter. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.839 They took control of it. And that's that's the difference. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.200 You hold it team to twenty eight third down conversion 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:03.920 I think it was like twenty eight points six percent 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.440 or something like that Pittsburgh Steelers on third down. Usually 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.520 that is in the winning column of a football game. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:11.400 How rare? 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.200 Is it to hold a team to that kind of 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.279 a performance on third down and not win the game? 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.719 Yeah, the plan was good. Again, it's it comes down 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.599 to that's great. We got to get a turnover. You know, 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.400 we've had several games now with no turnovers created, and 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.560 offensively we give him fourteen points. That's that's just there's 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:27.560 no chance you're gonna win that. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:33.720 Yeah, I mean turnover third down? What about the running game? Offensively? 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.000 He Chase Brown ran the ball effectively before he ran hard. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.000 I mean he always does. He gives every effort that 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.480 he has a total effort every snap that he runs 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.279 the football. Other than him, do you feel like the 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.800 running game was proficient enough? 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.680 Yeah, I think he's right now, especially with small JL 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.360 he's the main running point. We're gonna give Taj and 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.880 Kendle reps. We got confidence in those guys, so I 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.599 thought we got way we needed. It's not always going 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.960 to be pretty when you're playing any team in the North. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.800 To have some you feel really good about their effishing, 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.559 they're explosive, you're gonna have some that are no gains 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.440 or one game and you're just you're gonna have to 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.280 rally behind that because that's just when you're playing a 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.320 great front like they have, that's part of the part 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.679 of the process, and that doesn't catch a soff guard. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.960 And we just got to handle the next down as 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:16.560 well as we can. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.800 I bet when you were traveling to Pittsburgh and thinking 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.200 about this football game, Mason Rudolph wasn't a name that 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.240 was in the top of everybody's mind that he was 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.159 going to come and play in a football game. What 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.719 did you obviously study everybody, everybody scouting department, coach, everybody 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.240 studies everybody. What does Mason Rudolph do to help his 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.680 football team win? Oh, he's a veteran quarterback. He's he's 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.400 been in this building before. We played against last year 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.680 in Tennessee. You just got to managing their offense, you know, 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.719 and they were running the ball well, and he was 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.200 getting the ball in the perimeter. He was getting the 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.560 ball in some nakeds. They didn't try to put too 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.600 much on him, you know, in a windy, cold environment 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.279 where he's coming in the second half, and he did 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.800 a good job managing what they want him to do. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.880 Everybody in the National Football League has at least two 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.520 so I mean, the season is not over. I mean, 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:07.279 there's plenty to play for. What do you do to 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.120 make sure that your your football team stays focused and 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:11.200 takes it one game at a time. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.000 Yeah, we go back to work and we keep fighting. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.760 And that's that this locker room has been about, through 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.320 thick and thin, and so I trust that that's that's 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.680 the message they've received, that's the message they want to 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.280 receive and follow. I've got full trust that will do that. 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.160 We have to find a way to win a football game. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.200 That's there's you can't run from that. These these losses 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:30.960 they take it out of you, you know they do. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:31.560 They beat you up. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.880 But in this profession, you got no choice or professionals, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.160 we got to bounce back the next day, find a 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.000 way to have a great attitude, fix the things we 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.840 got to fix, and come back ready to fight and 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.800 go find a win. And that's exactly what we're going 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:42.040 to do. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.600 Jamar Chase and Tigans are going to get a lot 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.040 of attention every time they play. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:46.600 They're great. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.400 I mean I think they're the best duo of the 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.880 best tandem in football any level of football. Pittsburgh Steelers 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.120 did a pretty good job. I mean, Jamar and t 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.880 they're going to make plays. They did make plays. But overall, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.920 I think the Pittsburgh steel has handled things pretty well. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.320 What did did they do anything difference coverage wise? 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.080 They just weren't going to give you any access. You know, 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.240 they were going to make sure that there was no 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.960 access there. A little bit different than the first time 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.679 we played them. Not to be expected. You didn't expect 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.600 the exact same plan when you played them again and again. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:13.240 We just didn't. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.880 We didn't find a way enough to get points on 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.040 the board early in the game when our defense was 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.080 getting some stops. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.080 Coach, appreciate your time, as always New York Class Act 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.920 for joining us. I mean, I know this is not 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.520 a happy time for anybody, that's for sure. But I 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.480 know that this football team, like you said, you get 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.280 a bunch of winners, a bunch of professionals, a bunch 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.800 of guys are gonna give you every effort. We'll see 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.480 it up again next week. I appreciate that, Zach Taylor. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.640 After the game, we are up and running on this 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.040 Monday night, still ahead. We'll hear from Joe Flacco, Gino Stone, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.520 We'll talk with Barrett Carter, and a whole lot more 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.880 to get to as we navigate three hours tonight if 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.679 Bengals line on the Bengals radio network and seven hundred WLW, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:57.320 we're back on Bengals. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.120 A lot of this blending out of the Bengals. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.800 Radio networking seven hundred helping you out w Lanscer Catave 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.520 Blackham sorting through yesterday. We'll look on ahead to the Patriots, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.520 says well. Coming up in our third hour, let's talk 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.959 Joe Flacco. Twenty three of forty yesterday, one hundred and 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.840 ninety yards. He was sacked once, threw a touchdown, threw 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.640 a pick unfortunately a pick six quarterback rating of sixty 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.920 eight point six. Here's Joe Flacco after the game. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.080 Go watch things and clean them up. But obviously, you 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.320 know your thoughts are going to be you know, are 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:26.480 going to be with you for a little bit, and 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.280 you gotta find a way to move on and watch 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.880 the film and see what it really was, and you know, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.840 take care of it. Given where the division is, to say, 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.439 feel like huge opportunity potentially and really. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.400 Gain some momentum out. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.959 Listen to me, We're halfway through the season. Basically it's 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.360 a little bit more now, but it really is so 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:50.959 tough to look at it that way. I think it's 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:57.280 easy to get caught up in that stuff, but you 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.600 know it, I I really try to remove myself from 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.439 those situations and just go play football. And I think 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:05.960 if you do that, that's when you give yourself the 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.199 best chance to be in the best position you want. Obviously, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.760 that's there lingering and you know, the opportunity and all 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.560 that stuff, but you got to try to avoid getting 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.640 caught up in those things are you're trying. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.760 To manage the pain and the shoulder. How much worse 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:19.559 did he get after? 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:22.160 Now? 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.640 I mean, listen, that's football. He did a good job. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.439 He buried me in the turf. But uh but I 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.319 felt good, you know, felt good all game. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.959 Did they they changed much the way they attacked you? 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.559 Well, I think they made sure that. They probably did 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.520 it more. Just they probably had a couple of guys 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.480 on him more often than they did in the first game. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.920 And you know, that's why they're a good football team. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:45.480 Uh. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.360 And we knew, we knew they were going to make 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.600 adjustments and come in here and play better than they 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.880 did the first time we played them, and we just 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.280 gotta we gotta match that. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:55.760 Too. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.600 Shady change what they did. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.680 I listen, I think everything they did we kind of 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.320 had a plan for and and and could see that 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.160 you know, why they were doing it and the fact 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.280 that they were going to do it. You have to 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.480 ask them, I mean in terms of what they feel 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.720 like they can do, and and and you know, I 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.800 know those guys are good players. And anytime you get 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.600 your best players out there, you feel you feel like 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.360 you got a you know, a good thing going. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:23.920 Do you feel like there was a miss in terms 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:25.800 of like when they lose their safety to you was 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.160 in a situation already do the secondary and whatever. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.160 I just think I just think the way they were 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:37.800 playing that stuff mattered. Obviously it matters over the long haul. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:39.959 But the way they were playing and trying to double 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.000 guys and doing those things and just trying to get 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.959 pressure with their front. I don't think it was one 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.040 of those things where you could, you know, start drawing 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.160 stuff up and take advantage of because guys were out. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.800 I think they were still sticking to their plan and 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:53.440 doing what they were gonna do against us. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.720 You made it so many, you made it so many 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.040 eight teams here when. 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:04.640 You that they might betting their ground and well no, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.400 I mean, listen, did these games you know they're gonna 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.640 be battles And even though this looks like a lot, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.560 it looks really bad. It's one of those typical games 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.200 that you come playing here and all of a sudden 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.960 it breaks loose and it goes the other way. But 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.000 this you felt it today. It was a hard, physical game. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.080 They you knew they were gonna make it tough, tough 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.760 for it for us, and we just didn't come through 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.000 in those couple of little moments. You know, they got 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:38.480 to two touchdowns on defense and got everybody excited and 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.960 we're able to pin their ears back and do their thing. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.560 And you know, that's what this game comes down to. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.079 It's it's one or two plays that you can look 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.319 back on, and obviously there's more than that and just 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.120 the consistency of it, but there's always those plays, and 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.760 it comes down to just playing winning football and and 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.440 and kind of waiting for your opportunity and you know, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.480 not letting and not letting yourself get too far out 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.360 ahead of yourself and trying to make things happen when 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.320 they're not going to. And I don't really think we 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.480 were doing that today, but we obviously you know, just 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.880 we weren't able to wait, wait, wait, wait and strike. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:18.400 We we made mistakes and they capitalized. I don't think so. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.400 I don't think so. And you know, I didn't pay 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.240 much attention to it during the game, but like it 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.240 was windy out there, you could tell pregame ball was 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.120 moving around. I don't think I've seen it like that before. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.680 I don't think so. I, like I said, I don't. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.160 I think during the game it really didn't end up playing, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.040 you know, being a huge factor. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:37.920 Yours defense. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.040 But the team I thought they did a lot of 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:41.760 good things today. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:42.040 You know. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.280 It's just a shame in the way that you know, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.560 we're kind of not meaging each other right now and 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.559 playing both sides as well as we can at the 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:51.080 same time. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.800 So I know, you're out and. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.640 You're on the sidelines, but the extent that you got 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:04.080 to see the defensive at all, your eyes different what 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:04.640 they were doing. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.480 Well, that looked like they got you know, it looked 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:08.840 like they were pinning their ears back a little bit 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.520 more and playing with some confidence and playing with some speed, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.480 so they were able to kind of you know, break 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.560 through the line a little bit and you know, get 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.440 in the backfield a little bit more, and I just 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:18.760 it just looked like they were playing faster. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.360 Joe Flacco talking about his performance and defeat yesterday and Dave, 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.320 I don't know that he would never acknowledge it, but 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.800 I wondered at times how much that shoulder was bothering him, 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.360 because he seemed to throw some kind of side arm 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.320 at times, and there weren't a lot of deep shots 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.600 down the field. Again, he's not gonna admit that, and 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.600 he took a shot on that sack as well. I 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.880 wonder how much the shoulder is bothering him at this point. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.840 Yeah, you got to figure that it's, you know, some 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.360 sort of an issue. There's he has to be feeling something, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.880 some sort of pain. I know, there's all kinds of 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.400 ways in today's football to alleviate that pain on game day, 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.640 and I'm sure he's probably taken advantage of some of that. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.600 But yeah, he his throwing mechanics didn't look the same. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.960 It's throwing motion was was different. Like you said, a 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.320 lot of it a lot of it was flight, dropping 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:14.680 down and throwing sidearm, you know, And obviously I guess 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.960 that felt more comfortable to him and whatever the anatomy 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.560 or you know, uh uh, the the chart of the 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.280 human body. You know that that that you have to 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.200 you have to look at. I just think I think 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:35.800 that Joe Flacco could have done better throwing the football 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:42.400 if if healthy, obviously, but even without health, if the 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.720 Bengals had run the ball more consistently, I think Joe 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:50.200 Flacco might have been able to take advantage of intermediate 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.520 and deeper routes with play action passing game. And and well, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.200 the Pittsburgh Steelers certainly took advantage of it. They ran 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.800 the ball well, uh twenty eight care of the football. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:05.360 They they were they were consistent with that. They only 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.000 they threw up thirty one times. We're in at twenty eight. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.040 That's that's pretty good balance for that offense. And the 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.760 Pittsburgh Steelers did a pretty good job at the line 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.760 of scrimmens. Their offensive line I thought played a very 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.160 solid sound football game. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.680 And David, the reality is Joe Flacco's forty years old. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.760 He's been really good on a magical ride. Yeah, but again, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.040 he's forty. It wouldn't be fair to say Joe Flacco's 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.960 got to throw for three hundred and fifty every week 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.600 or this offense is not gonna go anywhere. You just 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.960 can't put that on his shoulders. No, no pun intended 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.120 with an injured shoulder. You just can't do that to it. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.280 No, you're right, it's you know, you've got You've got 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.680 other players that need to step up. Everybody needs to 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.760 support what Joe Flacco is doing. I thought the uh. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.240 I thought the offensive line was okay for the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.240 I didn't think it was, you know, like a scintillating 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.440 effort that wow, look at this, I mean, this is 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.640 Hall of Fame worthy. But I thought they played pretty well. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.800 I do think that the Pittsburgh Steelers are better in 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.400 sid with their defensive tackles and the interior defensive lineman. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.920 And I thought the Bengals struggled control on those guys 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.720 pretty well. Hang type more to get to including Jamar Chase. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.160 He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but callister. It's Bengals Line 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:15.080 of the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.880 Continue on this Monday night. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.080 Welcome back in Thanks for hanging out with us as 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.720 we talked Bengals football on Bengals Line the Bengals Radio 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.560 Network in seven hundred WLW lance butcallister Dave Lapham thirty 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.080 four to twelve losers to the Steelers yesterday. And the 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.560 other story coming out of that is Jamar Chase. Jamar 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.120 on the field, has three catches for thirty yards, got 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.840 into an incident with Jalen Ramsey in the fourth quarter 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.000 of that game, and today comes word because of a 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:47.679 spitting incident, will be suspended beginning next week. And David 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.760 was one of those, one of those afternoons of great frustration. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.720 And anybody who knows Jalen Ramsey and this is not 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.359 to excuse, certainly Jamar's behavior, but Jayleen Ramsey is an 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:03.160 instigator and an irritator, and Jamar engaged and then took 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.480 it too far. And now he's gonna suffer the consequences 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.520 and the Bengals offense and this team is gonna suffer 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:09.320 the consequences. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.399 Yeah, And that's that's the big thing is you know, Jamar. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.720 Jamar is gonna be lighter in the pocketbook and have 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.399 less opportunity to put up numbers at the end of 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.880 the season in terms of catch his yards and touchdowns, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.439 but it's opportunity for teammates to step up opportunity for 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.879 others to show that they're developing, that they're coming along, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.760 that they're ready for more work, They're ready for more opportunity, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.440 showing that to the head coach, the coordinator, the position coach, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:41.520 and the quarterback. Most importantly, the quarterback. Chase Brown has 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.760 gotten quite a few targets and he's caught the football 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.680 very well. He's shown himself to be a viable target 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.760 coming out of the backfield, running good routes, securing the football, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.120 tucking it away, making the first guy miss, and then 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.000 the other. Thing he's doing real well, obviously, is allowing 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.960 the players to be made by blitz pickup, sticking the 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.960 face right in the middle of a linebacker's chest and 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.560 getting it done. The tight end positions has been almost 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:11.080 not invisible, but hasn't really shown itself to be a 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.360 huge factor in any football game. Kasiki needs to get 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.240 healthy and be able to do what he does so 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.720 well on the football field. The tremendous receiver of the 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:28.160 football Noahfan had five receptions on six targets, Hudson Tanner 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.600 Hudson had three catches on three targets, and Yosi Vosh 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.119 step up. As you knows as a number three receiver. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.560 With Jamar Chase out for a game, he could be 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.120 he's number two. I mean, he's a guy that needs 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:47.560 to show that. Okay, come on, guys, I'm ready. He's 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.919 had his issues dropping the football. He seems to have 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.240 gotten over that. Everybody has those from time to time 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.000 during the course of their careers and hopefully Yosi's done 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.560 with that for this season. So bottom line is, guys 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.680 are drafted out of college showing that the talents they 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.120 have and they're they're they're taken by a football team 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.720 for a specific role that the team had in mind 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.520 for them. Now you're going to live up to that 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.880 role and have an opportunity to maybe expand that role 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.479 show the team that you're capable of more. And if 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.760 you're Jamar, you just can't. The track record is clear 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.720 with Jaylen Ramsey. You know what he is, you know 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.080 what he's going to try to do. And if you're 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.600 a veteran like Jamar and you're a captain like Jamar. 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.920 You just can't engage. You can't let him get under 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.680 the skin and take it to the extent he did, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.800 because you cost yourself and you cost your team. And 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.639 that's not that's what. That's never what Jamar Chase has 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.600 been about. He's always been about team. That's the disappointing thing. Yeah, 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.560 Jamar Chase is a team player. You're right about that, Lance, 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:51.120 I mean, and it's not lip service, you know. I mean, 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:55.520 he's sincere. He's sincere about it. Nobody probably feels worse 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.399 about it than than Jamar Chase. You know, you know 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.320 some guys, uh, you know, I asked, he deserved it. 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.240 I'm glad I did it. That's not Jamar. Jamar is 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.400 not that type of types of an individual because the 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.120 like like just said, the team's the one that's paying 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.480 the consequences. Let's get reaction immediately after the game to 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:20.520 what transpired. Here's Jamar meeting with the media. What happened 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:21.600 to jail. 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:29.080 Exchanging words? You were saying that you him him, I 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:30.760 ain't never to I ain't never opened my mouth to 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:31.840 that guy. 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:33.480 What do you what? 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:39.400 What do you think prouted the reaction from. 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.639 Well, you don't like some of the words I told him. 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:41.760 He's been going back and forth the whole time, so 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:43.680 I'm sure some some got under the skin. 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:45.920 So it was building whole game. 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:46.960 It just wasn't on that drive. 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:51.240 The first time we had a altercation and then it 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:52.120 was a second time. 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.680 Except the first time in your career anybody's. 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:55.560 Ever hunched you. 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:57.520 A game. 0:21:59.200 --> 0:21:59.960 You seen me get punk. 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:02.359 We'll thank you for a punch. 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.040 M hm j J. 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.080 Just so clear you did not spin on him. 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:08.640 A whole ones you got any saying, I ain't spit 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:09.800 on nobody? 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.200 Okay, how how frustrating getting you walk about the game. 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:13.920 How frustrating is the loss? Giving what y'all wanted? 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.240 What y'a wanna do in the morse come. 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:15.720 Out in wi was it? 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.560 It's hard knowing how hard we work for practice and 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:24.080 coming here in here and not executing tour best ability. 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:26.960 Gotta I gotta do better as a team. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.520 When you double down every snap basically you wor. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:36.480 Nah not every snap? First series is like cloud with 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.480 like a two man show. Second series the first thirty 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:41.560 downalds when I got double. 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.800 Did they did they change it up from last month? 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:45.960 Yeah? 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:46.359 How did they? 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:47.920 How did they change? Uh? 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:48.600 A lot more? 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.919 Too high cloud myself the whole time, try to look 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:52.760 make it look like too man. And then when they 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.120 did give me one on one safety just cheated. 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:57.600 Why do you think it was so hard to get 0:22:57.640 --> 0:22:59.600 into a rhythm tonight. That's an offensive unit. 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.840 Good question, man, it's a lot going on. 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.680 We had a good was running the ball a lot too, 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:10.320 tryna get 'em out of the too high so you know, 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.040 we was tryn to execute that, but when it was 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:13.840 time for us to execute and pass the ball, we 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.679 wouldn't getting our best looks. 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.200 Did you feel, given the fact that you guys were 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.840 close at half time, that this game on the road 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:22.840 was there for the taking? 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:23.280 Uh? 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.760 It was there, It was there, It was there by 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:26.200 half time. 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:30.760 Yeah, a playoff math gets hard. Now what motivates you 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:31.679 from here on there? 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.520 Just gotta keep competing, Man, can't forget how I got here. 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.760 I gotta keep competing, stay positive, and just keep working. 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.040 Do you feel like there was a missed opportunity to 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:42.800 to make things tight in the AFC North? 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:47.800 You could say that probably. 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.560 Yeah, Where where do y'all going from here? 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:50.800 Now? 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:51.639 How tid it was? 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:51.720 It? 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:51.840 Like? 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.399 What's what's the main objective? Now? Three and seven? 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.040 With the games that Jill got left. 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.359 It just won the next game and you know we 0:23:58.400 --> 0:23:59.840 gotta we gotta win in the in the. 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.640 You know where Sam Stone was talking about how there's 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.040 no quit in the defense, no quit on the team. 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.840 Why do you feel that same way? I assume we do. 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.120 Uh yeah, I mean look at it from the past 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.280 couple of games that you know we we shouldn't have 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.119 won or we have one and just see see how 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.320 the guys play. Everybody's playing today, fullies until the last 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:21.920 listen to the last time on the clock, go. 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:25.840 Out Jabar Chase immediately after the game yesterday, We've got 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:27.640 more to get to. We'll talk about the defense here 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.960 from Geno Stone and more as we continue on with 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.879 Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network, it's seven hundred 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:38.480 WLW Welcome back to the Bengals Line. And there's plenty 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.199 I know the Bengals Radio Network. It's seven hundred WL 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.080 Lances hanging out with Dap Lap. 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.920 Yes, Sir Lanson. The Kettering health feature, it's always about 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.359 the injury report the Bengals. They get nicked up, they 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.800 suffered a couple of injuries. They had guys that couldn't 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:57.520 play in the football game because of injury. That it's 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.639 not a long term situation. I don't think for anybody 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.679 on the football team. Uh So that that part of 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.080 it even though there are three and seven football team. 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:10.760 It's not necessarily related to injury. It's related to, uh, 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.760 playing better, I mean a better performance on a week 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:18.440 two week basis, being more consistent. So we'll see how 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.639 that evolves. And it's presented by Kettering Health, the official 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.080 healthcare provider the Cincinnati Bengals, providing the best care for 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:26.840 the best fans. 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.840 Let's uh, let's get into the defensive side of things. 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.560 We've heard from Zach Taylor, heard from Joe Flacco and 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:36.520 also Jamar Chase. Let's talk defense. Here's Geno Stone after 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:36.960 the game. 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:38.920 You know, did you guys think that was a better 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.480 effort by the defense as a whole today? I mean, yeah, 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.040 for sure, definitely. 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:44.960 I mean everyone said the back on said, definitely a 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.200 thing we work on for we've been we've been saying 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:48.639 we could work on. By the end of the day, 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.280 I think we held it down in the rezone today 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.840 when we had the opportunities on there, Captain Tobel, So 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:55.720 I think we did a better job today doing that. 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.320 Did you think the chunk plays where really would hurt 0:25:58.359 --> 0:25:59.560 you overall at. 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.280 A certain point, Yeah, And then it comes down to, 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:05.000 you know, certain situations of you know, people are ill 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.919 spot and that's that's what it came down to. But 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.000 I think overall I played we played better. I would 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.679 say that we played better. I mean, definitely got work 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.560 on a tackles though my self included, but we definitely 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:15.000 play better. 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.560 Can you describe trying to tackle Washington? I mean a 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.000 three hundred pound tight end that gets ahead of steam 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.240 with that stiff arm. It seems like a difficult task. 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:22.600 Yeah. 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:24.240 No, I mean my my first one, I tried to 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:25.600 get him out of bounce. I thought I was gonna 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.280 get my bounce on the heel on the tracks. 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:27.560 Uh. 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.520 The next one got knocked. If I'm down and gone down, 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.120 I mean, it's really that end of the day. It's 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:32.600 got to get him down. But the first one, I 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.000 think that's gotta I mean, I's gotta do better. 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.720 Rest all, this feels like on third and long they 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.960 threw short a lot, counting on yards after the catch, 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.440 and unfortunately it worked too many times. 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.280 Yeah, I mean in the second and second half. We 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.560 made an adjustment after the first half, but you know, 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.240 we we had them an opportunity to second half, so 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:49.800 really didn't do that. 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.480 And then the one, the one we did. It wasn't 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:53.600 the same call we were in before. 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.240 So you know, at the end of the day, we 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.560 just gotta, you know, execute the call and everyone got 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:58.600 a rally to the ball. 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.399 They scored twenty points to offense. What were the positives 0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.080 from your view for the defense? 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.320 I feel like when we stopped to run better. Uh 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.280 it wasn't many big drum plays. They had a few, 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.639 I'll say that, but uh, it wasn't like nothing like 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:14.200 last two weeks. 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:14.920 I said that for sure. 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.280 I think it was we took a positive step, and uh, 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.600 I felt we gotta get get better. We still got 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.639 a lot of more games left, and uh, there's no 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:22.280 quickn this team. 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.080 So I know we're we're better right now. 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:25.720 It takes to keep going, you see, to keep drive 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.280 was the first drive the second half proved Office out. 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.080 There instead of Rogers and they don't get him. 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:31.480 On the field. 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.080 Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean I just feel like I'm 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:35.800 I I mean think we we we adjusted after the 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.680 first the first the first drive of the whole game. 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.400 I felt we had to just adjusted after that. But 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.480 you know, we know when Mason came in, there's gonna 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.920 be a different type of style. They were gonna limit 0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:47.800 limit it a little more, uh with him in there, 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:49.720 and try not to put too much on his plate. 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.159 But you know, I feel like we, like we said, uh, 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.320 we only have limited action in the second half, so 0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:56.480 you know at the end of the day when when 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.159 when we get down there, then too we. 0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:59.920 Gotta stop him. So we came out of score big 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.879 understand not only. 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.720 That, Yeah, definitely, I mean we knew it was a stake. 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:08.800 We knew, uh, what we have in front of us. 0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.720 So you know, at the end of the day, like 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.720 I said, we gotta getett ready to get better. And uh, 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.320 there's no Quinn's team. You know, last year we ran 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.479 off with a lot of wins, so she's gotta keep 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:19.720 the same mindset and get ready to do it again. 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.919 I'm frustrated gainst the mistackles just kind of continues. 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.120 To be the common theme here every week. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.479 It just seems like just guys can't kind of get 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:27.800 that corrected at this point. 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:29.280 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a thing. 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:30.840 By the end of the day, I feel like, I mean, 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.960 it's really no bit scores off it. I mean except 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.720 the one D and that's me. That's that's the one 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.240 thing I'll say, but like the miss tackles are all 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:39.080 one on one situations. 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.360 It's not like where people are. 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.160 You know, everyone's rolling to the ball and there, and 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.000 that's that's how it should be. It's how defense would 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.880 be played. Should be one on one tackles. But when 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:47.360 this one on one tackles, gotta make your plays. I'll 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:47.840 say that for sure. 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:49.080 Seems like steel little football. 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:50.520 You know what it's all in, But you grew up 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:50.920 watching it. 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.440 If they get, if they need it, they get, if they. 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.760 Start getting there and they get and it seems like. 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.320 They always out tackle when I was yeah, I mean 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:00.960 I feel like I mean I being in THEFS North 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:02.800 for a while, kind of all these games when you 0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.440 come to Pittsburgh kind of play out the same way. 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.600 They're gonna rely on their defense and let their offense 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.520 run the ball and keep it serveve and is kind 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.080 of how it is. And it's been my best as 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.960 I growing up. You know, so we knew what type 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.280 of game was gonna be coming in and he's an 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:16.880 execute the way we. 0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:17.200 Had to do. 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.480 Geno Stone after the game and Dave, we talked defense 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.240 was was better, not good enough? But one thing that 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.760 really jumps out in tracking the game, the third downs 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.880 allowed and some of the killers. They allow a third 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.840 and eleven conversion, a third and seventeen conversion, another third 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.440 and eleven, there was a first and twenty. There's a 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.000 twenty three yard gain on a on a first down. Earlier, 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.720 there were just those backbreaking moments where you're so close 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.200 to getting off the field and giving your offense to football, 0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.640 and they would they would break down at those moments. 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.640 And it's just kind of been the pattern this season. 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.720 Yeah, it has. And you know, if Aaron Rodgers, you know, 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.840 makes a big conversion, you think, oh, you know, Aaron Rodgers, 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.480 He's done that to a lot of people. But Mason Rudolph, 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:03.840 now he's making a big third and seventeen conversions, and 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.120 it's like, whoa, that's a horse of a different color. 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.280 Mason Rudolph comes in the football game and goes twelve 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:13.400 or sixteen, one hundred and twenty seven yards touchdown pass 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.320 quarterback Radio one eighteen point five. So yeah, I mean, 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.560 the defense, I agree. In the locker room, the sentiment was, 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.880 you know, the defense really played well enough to potentially 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:29.200 win this football game. Offensively, just didn't get it done 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.800 at all. You know, we just couldn't take advantage of 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.880 opportunities that were presented to us. And then you turn 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.080 it over twice. You know, Pittsburgh doesn't turn it over. 0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.480 Bengals turn it over twice. You go minus two on 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.400 the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a recipe for disaster. 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.040 And it's tough to win a football game when you're 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.400 putting yourself in that type of an environment. 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.440 Boy, with seven games left, and part of the conversation 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.760 will be as it becomes more and more difficult to 0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.800 make the math work to making the playoffs. Part of 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.160 it when you get late in the season is finding 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.120 out about players even more so in opportunities. And I 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.240 wonder as much as Gino Stone has continued to have 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:12.560 a tough time struggle tackling, I wonder if it might 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.480 open the door for Tyson Anderson to get some more 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.960 snaps or PJ Jewles to get some more snaps. It 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:24.120 just feels like something has to happen from a tackling standpoint, 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:28.200 and Geno unfortunately has been almost like the poster problem 0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.080 for the tackling at times for this team. 0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.240 It really has and he's earned it and he deserves it. 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.240 I mean, God, it's brutal. It's like he doesn't want 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.000 to use his arms and hands and wrap people up 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.120 and tackle people and take them to the ground. I mean, 0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.440 the Bengals need to do the routine tackling drill for 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.160 like a half an hour, you know, and get your 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.520 head across the bow, wrap up with the arms and 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.320 take them to the ground. Paul Brown had our quarterbacks 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.800 doing routine tackling drills back in the day because if 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:56.800 they turn the football over and they may be the 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.640 one that has to make the tackle on the interceptor. 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:05.120 So you're right, if things continue this way, and maybe 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:09.280 it's time. You know, it's been bad now for ten games, 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.640 so you know, maybe it's time to take a look, 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:15.200 see at the others and give him an opportunity. And 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.520 you know, once they get in the lineup, they may 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:19.360 never come out. 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.760 Stick around more to get too. As we hit down 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.080 the stretch. In our first of three hours today, we'll 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.600 talk about the day that Chase Brown turned in yesterday 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.400 and more. He's Dave Lapham, I'm alliance McAllister. The show 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.320 is Bengals on. We do it on the Bengals Radio 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:39.000 Network and seven hundred WLW down the stretch. We go 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.840 about to put our first of three hours in the 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.360 books today Bengals one of the Bengals Radio Network and 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.640 seven hundred WLTW Lance McAllister Dave Lapham. Chase Brown a 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.360 productive day, fourth straight week with over one hundred total 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.040 yards from scrimmage. He carried it eighteen times for ninety 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.280 nine yards. He caught six passes for twenty eight yards. 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.400 And Dabu, you alluded to the running game early and 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:02.440 what the the big picture of eighteen carries ninety nine 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.480 yards is impressive. The frustrating thing was kind of the 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.120 staggered stop and start to the run game because Chase 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.600 Brown had a fifteen yard gain. He later had a 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.320 thirty five yard gain, but the other sixteen carries they 0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.160 didn't do a whole lot with the run game. And 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.400 that's part of the kind of the roller coaster of 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.479 this thing. It'll be fun at moments and then it'll 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.040 like come to a jarring, halted moments. 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.400 Yeah, I mean, Chase Brown fifty yards of his ninety 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.440 nine on two of his eighteen carries, So it was 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.960 feast or famine. Yep. You know, they either gashed him 0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.400 and hurt him. Badly or you know, went away with 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:42.960 without a whimper. And that's the thing. I think consistency, 0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.760 or lack thereof, is the biggest problem this football team 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:50.000 is having. And that's not a shock when you consider 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.880 that their overall record is is three and seven. It's 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:56.440 just you know, some some series they go out there 0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.600 and wow, jeez, it looks pretty good. Thet they got 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.000 a pretty good idea of what's happening here. They they're 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.280 they're they got a nice, nice approach. They're attacking well, 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.319 playing very physical, playing very aggressively, and then you know 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.040 it'll be like, what the hell is going on? This 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.520 football team looks awful? Man, it looks like they haven't 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.480 even practiced all week. It looks like that you know, 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.719 the Pittsburgh Steelers or whoever the opponent is is just 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.319 totally befuddling them. You know, they're doing things that they 0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:30.160 didn't even anticipate and prepare themselves for. So that's the 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:34.000 thing is becoming. I think part of being a professional 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:39.600 is doing your job consistently. Your supervisor knowing day in 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.960 and day out, you're gonna show up to work, you're 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.440 gonna punch in, you're gonna work your ass off and 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.399 you're gonna punch out and go home, rest up, and 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.400 do it again the next day. And and that's the 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:50.759 mindset that they have to get to. 0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.560 And Chase Brown is so good. We saw earlier in 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.080 the year when there weren't holes being created for him 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.279 and he was getting hit first contact was behind a 0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.000 lot of scrimmage. But you him just a little bit 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.960 of daylight, and whether it's running the ball or catching 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.560 it out of the backfield, he can be dynamic. I mean, 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.560 four consecutive weeks over one hundred yards of total offense. 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.520 That is a big element for this offense when it 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:13.399 when it's working that. 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.120 Way, no question. I mean he is as he's an 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:22.840 explosive player. He's got a low center of gravity, you know, 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.880 I'd say he's five to nine max and two hundred 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.839 and ten two hundred and fifteen pounds, and he can 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.479 change direction in a heartbeat now and hit his skill set, 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.280 like we talked about, he can do just about anything 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.080 that you wanted to do as a football player. So 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.200 he's a huge weapon. 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.239 And wound up being their leading receiver with the six 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.400 catches yesterday. It had more catches than anybody else on 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:45.200 the team yesterday. 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.399 Yeah, he did, and uh you know he he had 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.960 tied for the most targets with eight. Excuse me, I'm 0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.880 looking at the wrong he was he was second target. Yep, 0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.480 and he and t had eight, so you know they're 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.840 definitely the offense is definitely. I'm not saying it's going 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.560 through Chase Brown, but part of the time it is 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:10.560 going through Chase. 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.839 From yes nice got to have it go through absolutely. 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:13.120 Yep. 0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.800 All right, that's one of the books. We have much 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.560 more to get to. We'll hear from Barrett Carter andmaryus 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:22.640 Mims talk about the play of Miles Murphy yesterday and more. 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.200 I might have to get into some Joe Burrow conversation 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.400 before we're done as well. He's Dave Blapham. I'm Lance McAllister. 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.880 The show is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:40.439 and seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back into our number 0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.400 two Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio networking seven hundred 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.080 wled up at Lance McCalister and Dave Blapham breaking down 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.839 yesterday's thirty four to twelve loss to the Steelers, looking 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.440 ahead eventually to those new England Patriots and always time 0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:52.719 for one of these dave. 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.840 Yes, Sir Lance, it's card time. We want to remind 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.120 folks to shop the Bengals Pro Shop find the best 0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.719 selection of Bengal merchandise where visit the Pro Shops seven 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.960 days a week, located on the north side of pay 0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.799 Court Stadium, or shop online at Bengals dot com. 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.120 Let's begin the hor with some conversation on the defensive 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.040 side of things and the rookie linebacker. Here's Barrett Carter 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:13.960 after the game. 0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.160 We just got to get eleven half to the ball 0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.480 and just find a way to get the guy down 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:23.640 whoever it is. We're in great play calls, play calls 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.280 sending us up for success. So for us as a defense, 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:27.640 we just got to get eleven halfs to the ball 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.440 and just find a way to get off the field. 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.640 You know, it may not look pretty all the time, 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.399 but just we just gotta find a way. 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.120 Washington a big tight end, he catches that ball. 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.440 What was your view of that play and ours to 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.279 try to get him down in the space. 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:40.920 Of be size. 0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.120 Yeah, just I just got to do better just knocking 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:44.600 the stiff arm down and just find a way to 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.120 get him down. So he's a good player. Obviously, he's 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.320 a large human being. So just just gotta knock the 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:51.719 stiff arm down and just get him, find a way 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:52.279 to get him down. 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.759 He went heavy to the screen game. What's the key 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:56.560 to playing those men? 0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.360 Getting eleven half to the football? That's that's really it. 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.560 I mean it's as frank as that age. Just eleven 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.400 guys just doing their job and once the ball get thrown. 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:08.759 Just flying around and just trying to get 'em down. 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.560 You know, there's no quid and helping moralizing get third 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:13.959 and eleven third and eleven third. 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:15.880 And seventeen they keep picking up those big ones where 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.960 those artipically high percentage plays. 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:22.640 Yeah, it's frustrating. You know, those are favorable situations for 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.279 the defense, and you know we expect to get off 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.760 the field really every single time we're in that situation. 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.000 So it's uh, super frustrating. 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.520 So we just gotta just watch the film and find out, 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.799 you know, what exactly went wrong and just do better 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.160 with tackling, do better just swarming to the football, taking 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.080 better angles, and just finding a way to get the 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.799 runner down. So it's frustrating, but you just gotta find 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:44.200 a way to. 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.439 Not let it happened in the next few weeks. Did 0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.120 you like being a key drive the game? 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:48.640 First? 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.879 First drive the second half moved alps in there. 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.080 Uh, you guys got 'em through and the water a 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:54.760 couple of times. 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:55.960 Don't put off the field. 0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:57.920 You to get with keyp drive and keep and. 0:38:57.960 --> 0:38:58.600 How the game went. 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.320 I mean that specific drive. I wouldn't say that was 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:03.359 the KEI a key drive. 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.200 You know, you have to treat and give every single 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:08.200 drive the respect that it deserves, and if you don't, 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.600 then you know you're gonna get exposed. So I wouldn't 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.759 necessarily say that was a key drive. You know, it 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.440 is a emphasis of, you know, try to win the 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.040 middle eight the last four minutes of the second half, 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.880 first four or the third. So frustrating that that happened, 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.560 but you just gotta find a way to not let 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:23.160 that happen again. 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.360 And those stirring lungs. It seemed like the strategy was, 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.360 you know, if they catch it short close to the 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.520 line of scrimmage, you gotta rally up and make the play, 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.839 which is pretty common and unfortunately there were several plays 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.719 where you just weren't able to execute that right. 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.879 Yes, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.680 I guess there's no real question there, but that is 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.719 something that the defense has to improve on, right. 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:47.760 Yeah, you know, we try to try to keep everything 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.520 in front of you and just like I said, just 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.960 rally and tackle 'em. So we just need to do 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.759 a better job of that. Frustrating that we had them in. 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.960 You know, so many of those situations today and weren't 0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.000 able to get off the field. But you know those, 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.240 like I said, those are favorable situations for the defense. 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:04.759 If we can get 'em in a third down the 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.120 long every single time, then you know, that's that's playing 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.239 good football. So we just gotta find a way to 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.320 just correct those mistakes and all that that happen again. 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.879 Reach straight games without a turnover with what's the comu 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:14.239 to get a. 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.719 News, but just seeing the ball, just having a knack 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.800 for it, you know, whether that's punching, ripping, stabbing, picking 0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.879 the ball off, whatever it is, just just gotta see 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.600 the ball better. You know, our offenses, you know, fighting 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.759 and scratching corn, doing everything they can for us, and 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.279 you know we just gotta we gotta compliment them and 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.279 give them some turnovers and return So we're just we're 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.600 building towards at you know, it's frustrating that we haven't 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.200 done that in the past three games, but we work 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.880 at it every single day so that that worm that 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.399 turnover warm is gonna turn. So it's gonna turn very soon. 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.200 You used it'd frustrating a lot. 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.880 Just how much more frustrating is it knowing where you 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.800 guys are in the division and knowing how much of 0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:53.520 win here could have tightened. 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:54.240 Things in the race. 0:40:55.880 --> 0:41:00.719 It's frustrating. Again, No, this division stay, There's still a 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.000 lot of ball have to be played. Still gotta play 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:07.160 Baltimore twice, Cleveland again, Cleveland again. So I mean there's 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.319 it's still a lot of room to for us to 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.279 you know, rise and you know take the spot. So it, 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.080 like I said, it is freshing. But they don't call 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.080 the season after that game. So we we got we 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.560 got work to do, but we'll we'll respond. For sure. 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.919 The Ropins did only score twenty were their positive things 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.240 on defense and if Selwich stood out. 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:29.440 To you, Yeah, for sure there were positives and you know, 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.880 twenty is still too much in in my opinion and 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:37.440 our whole defense opinion. Like that that's they shouldn't they 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.600 shouldn't have had twenty points. But I thought we played well, 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.200 just never never wavering. You know when things got hard, 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.040 you know we stayed together. You know, the energy was great. 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.040 So you know, we we we're we're building a family 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:50.839 on this defense, and we we know that we're gonna 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.799 fight til the last second, and you know things may 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.640 not be pretty, but you know we're gonna finish all 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:56.920 four quarters or however long. 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.040 It takes so a. 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.759 Lot of positives to take away, but know the main 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.360 positive that we just got to get a win, and 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.360 that's what we fail to do today. So I just 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.000 got to look forward to next We try to do that. 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.280 Barrett Carter after the game yesterday and Dave, I almost 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.520 I feel bad at times watching Barrett Carter because it's 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:17.120 almost as though when when you're a rookie and there's 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.840 expectations you early in the season, he looked really aggressive 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.640 and sometimes might overrun a play what you understand now. 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.680 I almost it almost feels like he's wondering and second 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.000 guessing and tentative, and and anytime you're a linebacker and 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.399 your tentative, that play has already passed you, and it's 0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.520 just it's leaving him in some really difficult situations. 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.600 Yeah, he wants to be perfect, you know, and and man, 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.480 you just got to shoot your gun. You just got 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:46.480 to let it roll, you know. Have faith in your preparation, 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.279 have faith and what the coaches have instructed you to do, 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:53.239 have coached you up to do, and when you see it, 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:57.239 go get it. And because he is he's a very 0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:01.600 very physically gifted kid, He's a skilled kid athletically. They 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:07.000 were very very excited about about having him and being 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.040 able to work with him and and be a big 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.680 part of his his professional career, his professional life. So 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.359 they've got big plans for Barrett Carter, and I think, 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.080 you know, deservedly so. But he's got to play more consistently, 0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.000 just like everybody around him, Dave. 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.239 I would imagine there were times back in your day 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.480 where you're sitting in the film session and there's a 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.279 play that pops up on the screen and you know 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.160 it's coming and I block your eyes. I gotta imagine 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.959 today a tough day for the trio of Barrett Carter 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.799 and Geno Stone and DJ Turner on the play that 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:43.080 Darnell Washington at six seven two sixty four pushes one 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.480 away knocks one down, shoves another away, and rumbles down 0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.480 the field. That up on the up on the screen 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.200 would would be a tough watch. 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.080 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, you can get embarrassed sometimes. 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.080 And Washington, who they say is pushing three hundred pounds 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.120 on the scale, uh, and he looks like it. He's 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.920 a he's a big man. I mean, I'm thinking this 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.200 guy might be a hell of a left tackle. He's 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.239 got he's got great feet. Uh, he's he's got long, 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.799 long arms. I mean he could he could literally uh 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.960 at the back end of his career, maybe end up 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:21.359 playing some some tackle for somebody. But that play ignited 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.799 the Steelers, you know, because they respond to physicality. That's 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.680 what Mike Tomlins all about. And that happened right in 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.160 front of the Steeler bench and they went nuts. I 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.799 mean Tomlin, the coaches, the players, the fans, and i 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:39.759 mean everybody started going nuts. So that was Ah, that 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.799 was a big, big momentum builder in the football game. 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.680 There's no question this linebacker group is a is a 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.440 work in progress. They they've traded Logan Wilson and that 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.160 was to get more time for Barrett Carter and more 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:56.160 time for Dimitrius Knight Junior yesterday or in Burke's got 0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.719 more snaps than he's been getting and a little bit 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.080 fewer for Dimitrius Knight Junior. So you're you're walking the 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.719 line when you when you play young guys, you can't 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.960 get better unless you play. But when you play with 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.120 young guys, it comes with the built in growing pains 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.040 of being a young guy. And that's the line they're 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:13.839 walking right now. 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:17.239 Yeah, and they've got a few players that are right 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.200 about the same ability, you know, and now Al Golden 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.120 and the staff is trying to figure out who deserves 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.239 the most snaps, you know. I mean it's like they're 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.840 they're auditioning out there in in live action, live football games. 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.360 It's not necessarily where you want to be at this 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.680 stage of the season, you know, just over the halfway 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.879 point of the season. But reality, uh sometimes sucks. That's 0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:38.799 where the Bengals are. 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.839 It's like a T shirt. There should be a teacher. 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:46.279 Reality sometimes sucks. Printed up will continue. There's more to 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.520 get to. We'll talk oh Lie, Dave Lapham, Lance but 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.759 Catlister Bengals line on the Bengals Radio Network in seven 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:53.880 hundred WLW. 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.040 Bengals Line Onnday night on. 0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.360 The Bengals Radio Network at seven hundred wil up in 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.239 the last But now let'st along with Dave Lapham. We've 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.920 sorted through yesterday. You've heard from Zach and Joe Flacco 0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.839 and Jamar Chase and Gino Stone. A little bit later on, 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.880 we'll get into some other elements of the game, from 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.319 Miles Murphy to looking ahead with the potential return of 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.879 Joe Burrow. We've got the Patriots to get to and more. 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.880 Let's talk offensive line and let's let's hear from the 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:26.760 second year offensive lineman and Marius Mims. Here's Mimes after 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:27.160 the game. 0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.600 Marius, tough loss today against the Pittsburgh Steelers. You're matched 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.240 up against t J. Watt. He didn't wreck the game. 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.160 I know that's the first thing that any offensive lineman 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.120 has to do. But I describe how you feel about 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.720 the way the offense performed today. 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.000 Like I said, man starts with me before I can. 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:45.919 I said, I point this finger on me first, because, 0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:47.680 like I said, I gotta be I gotta be better 0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:50.759 in areas. Like I said, Mike, I said, nobody can 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:52.520 never play a perfect game, man, But you just got 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:54.960 you gotta ascribe to. Like I said, some things I 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:56.960 wish I could take almost I can get back. It's 0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:58.719 a few players where I just didn't play out to 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:00.799 my standard, whether that be a a set where I 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.960 opened too fast or a late hit that I gave 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.480 up Like I said, I gave up a late hit 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.880 when Joe, when Joe threw the interception. And it's just 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.000 like I said, it starts with me. I gotta be 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:11.840 better in that area. And like I said, I'm not 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:13.960 the one to critique anybody else because like I said, 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.160 it starts with me first. And I don't want to, 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.160 you know, speak on another like I said, another group 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.200 or another like I said, another player what they can 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:22.759 do better. But I said, I can just talk about 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.480 my I just talk about me honestly, where you know, 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.000 I just have to be better in certain areas. Like 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:28.719 I said, it's two or three players that I want back. 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.279 I guess tej in past pro where I feel like, uh, 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:33.480 like you know, I didn't plug up to my standard. 0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.239 But like I said, we're on the road. It's hard 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:37.640 in a hard environment. I'm going against a Hall of famer, 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:39.239 and you know, I just if I want to be 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:40.799 you know, like if I want to be a Hall 0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:42.880 of Famer one day, I gotta you know, you know, 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:44.960 I gotta, I gotta, I gotta play like one. And 0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.320 you know, like I said, I'm not gonna play perfect, 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.600 but I didn't plug up to my standard on a 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.680 few plays. And I wish I could have those players back, 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.080 But like I said, it's football, imperfect. Never gonna be perfect. 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:55.279 Man. 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.200 But like I said, you gotta scribe to be. Like 0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.080 I said, we're gonna we're gonna go back in watch 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.319 film Monday, dissect the dissect the film and figure out 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.399 what we did wrong, and you know, come back out 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.560 next Sunday ready to roll, man, because like I said, 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:08.719 we have seven more games left. It's not over with 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.360 you know, it's you know, two and one of the division, 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:14.920 and we just gotta, you know, just gotta keep going, man, 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.239 because we really gotta win out men in my in 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.799 my minds, like I said, making the playoffs, man, it's hard. 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.640 So like I said, with any team, but for with us, 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.319 we gotta our goocrit just like went out honestly. But 0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:26.920 we're gonna start with just you know, taking that one 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:28.799 game at a time, and that's the Patriots next So. 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.600 How hard is it to face Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh Once 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.920 they start to get the momentum going and the crowd 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:36.520 gets into it. 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:40.080 I mean, I feel like that's anywhere honestly, man. But 0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.880 Pittsburgh's different. It's an AFC North rivalry. 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:43.160 Man. 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.319 You know they're gonna be coming out that ball. They're 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:45.839 gonna be humming. 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:49.320 They're known for their front seven, their their their their interior, 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.000 their edge rushers, their linebackers, being physical, and we just 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:53.160 got a master that physicality. 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:53.399 Man. 0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.279 But like I said, man, season's not over. We gotta 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.040 just keep getting better every week and you know, come 0:48:58.040 --> 0:48:59.040 back stronger next week. 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.000 Chase Brown and ran for ninety nine yards. As a team, 0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.160 he ran for more than one hundred. Do you feel 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:07.239 like that aspect of the offense has kind of turned 0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:09.520 the corner now where you feel like the running game 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:10.320 is pretty reliable. 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.959 I feel like we bought him to what we bought 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:18.080 into our oc our head coach and our on opposition 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:19.160 coaches philosophy. 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.319 Just run the ball. And like I said, Chase is 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:22.000 a special talent. 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:22.239 Man. 0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:23.719 That guy right there runs hard. 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.880 Practice is hard, like I said in the building, like 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.440 I said, like I said, he always has pen paper, 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:31.760 he's always studying hard, watching film. 0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:31.960 Man. 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.439 Like I said, he deserves it. So we just gotta 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.400 be better for him. And going forward, you know, we 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.279 gotta just you know, keep holding them the run game, 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:40.359 just keep getting better because he's a he's a guy 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.160 that if you get him in space and if you 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.000 you know, make Keith blocks man, he's he's gonna take 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:45.360 them to the house. So, like I said, we just 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.279 got him. Like I said, we've been taking a step 0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:49.600 in the right direction in the run game. But for him, man, 0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:51.400 we just gotta keep getting better every week so he 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:52.840 can show high supposed to be is. 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.520 Appreciate your time, guests to luck against the Pats next week. 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.400 Appreciate you Mims after the game, Dave, give me a 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:00.799 give me a kind of a scouter reporting and in 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.000 his second year, Do you like the track and the 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.760 projection that Mims is on in the kind of the growth, 0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.000 development and maturity that you would hope for in a 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:10.080 second year player. 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.279 Yeah, I like. I like Amarius Mims' potential. You know, 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:17.080 I think he's, uh, he's a genetic freak. I mean 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:21.239 he is, He's He's a marvel physically. He's he can 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:24.279 move really well for a guy his size. Uh, there's 0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:26.680 no stiff you know, in a Marius Mims. I mean 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.640 he's very fluid. Uh. He bends really well at the 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.719 knees and and he doesn't bend at the waste. He 0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.520 bends at the knees. He's got flexibility in his in 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.959 his ankles, and he's got flexibility and his knee joint. 0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:42.440 And he's he's very strong, you know, big, naturally strong guy. 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:43.120 He is. 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.319 He's a horse, and I think Scott Peters, the new 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:49.520 offensive line coach, has given him additional tools for his toolbox. 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.600 You know. He he played at Georgia, was well coached 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:57.279 down there, didn't get he missed a lot of activity 0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:01.279 in games because of uh injury and hopefully you know, 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:02.840 he's been nicked up a little bit here with the 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:06.880 Cincinnati Bengals. Hopefully that is sometimes guys have a period 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.279 of time during the course of their career where that 0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:12.200 is a problem, but then it goes away. And hopefully 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.400 when he's done and retired, he will be able to 0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:18.880 reflect back and say, man, that was a struggle getting 0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:22.160 through that period of time. But I think that that 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:27.360 he Scott Peters likes the way he plays, likes his attitude, 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:31.279 likes his approach to the game. Intelligent, you know, he's 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:34.640 not a guy that he doesn't blow assignments the tackle position. 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.600 After having played all five you know in my career 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.279 and a couple of times in the same game, the 0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:45.400 tackle position is not real sophisticated in terms of assignments. 0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:47.040 You got the end, you know, basically, you got the 0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.120 end the end man on the line of scrimmage. But 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:55.800 he he does have good football IQ overall IQ general 0:51:55.840 --> 0:52:02.279 I Q smart guy, he's good teammate. All the other 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:05.880 offensive lineman love the guy, as do other position players. 0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.040 So I think a Marius Mims is a good addition 0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:08.680 of the football team. 0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:11.680 When you're a smart guy and a willing learner and 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.879 a sponge, I think you hit on a great point. 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.240 He didn't have a whole lot of snaps in playing 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:19.400 time in college, so there's still a learning curve, and 0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:21.840 he's it's almost like a piece of clay that he 0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.239 hadn't developed a ton of bad habits, so you can 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:26.440 just kind of mold him into what you want on 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.240 the on the NFL level, and he seems willing to 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.160 learn and adapt as you go that's that's all you're 0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:32.640 looking for. 0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.640 Yeah, I mean if if when you draft a guy 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:39.880 like him, I mean, his his future could project to 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.960 be you know, not not sure fire Hall of famer, 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:48.080 but that type of skill set or you know, is 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.719 he a bust? Is he You hate to use that word. 0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:54.080 I don't think he is, but I'm saying, you know, 0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:57.080 that's that's obviously when when guys come in highly acclaim, 0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:00.000 there's pressure with that and if they don't live up 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:01.879 to it and fulfill it, you know, oh yeah, that dude, 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.879 he was a bust, you know, and that that kind 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.319 of that kind of attitude, you know, you don't like 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:11.200 to hear. So I do think I think he's got 0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.480 a very very bright future. I think he's playing at 0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.239 a good level. I'd say he's grading out as well 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.040 as just about any of the offensive lineman you know 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.640 that the Cincinnati Bengals have. I'm not sure if Scott 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:26.640 Peters is a very is he a real task master 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.359 greater like you know, Tiger every once in a while 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.759 would be. You know, I remember John Shiner saying, I 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.919 got Tiger. My god, I can't. I can't do anything right. 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.920 I mean, you know, I guess I can't even put 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:42.800 my uniform on right. But we'll see, we'll see how 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.200 I do think the the one two punchs though Scott 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.279 Peters teaching Amarius Mims the game of football in the 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.120 NFL is a positive. 0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:51.600 Thing still ahead. 0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:54.040 We'll flip the script back onto the defensive side of 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.280 things and talk about the day turned in by Miles 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:58.640 Murphy and others as we continue with Bengals on on 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:06.000 the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, we 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.319 continue on Rocket and Roller Throw a Monday Night at 0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:12.440 Bengals on Bengals Radio Network, Hit seven hundred WLW, LANs Bookatluster, 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:16.040 Dave Lapham, we just made eye contacts. See behind the scenes. 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.200 We just made eye contact. Dave reach for a card 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.120 and we had that look like card and I thought, yeah, 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:25.280 let's go and behind the scenes, boom right there, telepathic waves. 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:29.080 There we go, and we're talking out the Fiber Lance, 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.640 the official Wi Fi and Internet provider of the Bengals 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.160 and Greater Cincinnati's fastest Internet with up to two gig 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:36.360 symmetrical speeds. 0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.759 David, if fans are looking for something exciting out of 0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.279 a frustrating day yesterday, to me. It was exciting that 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:46.200 Miles Murphy. I jotted his name down a number of 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.480 times throughout the game. And there's been a lot of games, right, 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.239 I didn't jot his name down at all, and I 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:54.600 was like, where was Miles Murphy today? But unofficially seven tackles, 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.600 a sack, two quarterback hits, a tackle for loss. Yes, 0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:00.320 he did have a roughing the passer, but that was 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.600 a moment where Miles Murphy made his presence felt and 0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:05.839 that that's a good sign. They need more of that 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:06.279 from him. 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.480 Absolutely. I mean that stat line that you just read 0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:11.880 is probably the best he's had in his career, I 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:13.839 would think, so, there's no question about it. I mean, 0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:17.960 his his activity level was at a premium. I mean, 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.120 he was he was a factor coming off the edge, 0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.759 he uh and and that's what the Bengals thought that 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.760 they were going to get when they drafted him, and 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:31.440 he is. He's been a uh, you know, just a 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:34.320 tough nut to crack for the for the Cincinnati Bengals 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:39.439 coaching staff. And he's had different coaches now unfortunately, uh 0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:41.839 in a very short time frame of his career. But 0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:45.440 he he does have unrealized potential. He has a big, 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.799 big upside. He showed some of the things that he 0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.600 can do. He is explosive, and he has a quick 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.160 first step. I mean he can he can really uh 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:59.040 you know, distort the timing and and and a guy 0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.640 like him not only does he have that quick first step, 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.520 and can he speed rush the edge, he can hunker 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:06.239 down and take you right down the middle and bull 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.120 rush a little bit. He can he has a pretty 0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.440 good storage where he can he can stun you and 0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.400 stagger you a little bit. So Miles Murphy is a 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.200 guy that, uh, okay, you put up one good game. 0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.520 Now how about following up two, three, four in a row. 0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.640 Let's let's show that you've arrived boy. And I was 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.480 struck by uh. I enjoyed the part of the pregame conversation. 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.719 Yesterday Dan Horden talked with him and and mentioned that 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.839 Miles is is so cerebral and such a smart guy. 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:36.480 And Dan said, sometimes defined yourself maybe overthinking something or 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.680 spending too much time thinking about your your next move 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:41.960 or how I'm gonna do this versus just the power 0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:45.000 of I'm gonna impose my will. And I would I 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:47.439 would imagine that's something especially when you're a young guy, 0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:49.279 you're and you're a smart guy. 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:51.600 There's there's a lot you have to clear out. And 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:56.040 sometimes it's just I need to impose my will and 0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:56.760 be able. 0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:59.719 To say the hell with technique and fundamentals, but the 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.520 hell a technique in front ofmentals. Just get after it. 0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.440 Just just you know, let fire the gun man, let 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:08.920 it roll. You got all this uh, all this physical 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.799 talent oozing out of that out of that body. Let 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:12.480 it happen. Man. 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:16.800 And there's no question with the the trays obviously dinged 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.160 up right now, we don't know what his future holds. 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:22.200 And Shamar Stewart is still a rookie and in recovering 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.400 from an injury, and Joseph Osai, we don't know what 0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:28.880 his future is. They need Miles Murphy when this isn't 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:32.880 breaking news. You need first round picks to deliver. And 0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.480 they need a lot from Miles Murphy this season and 0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:36.880 going forward for this defense. 0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.600 Yeah, and the and the Bengals have uh have spent 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:41.640 a lot of high draft picks on the defense. YEP, 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.520 have had to do it because they've decided as an 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:46.760 organization they're going to spend money on the offense. You know, 0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.680 Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and T Higgins. I mean, 0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:52.480 you get a lot of money invested in that offensive machine. 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:57.480 So defensively, Uh, the best way other than signing uh 0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:01.320 you know a veteran free agents, uh who bolstered the defense, 0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:04.520 is to spend high draft picks on the defense side 0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:06.280 of the football. And the Bengals and Duke Tobin and 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:08.560 the scouting department have been doing exactly that. 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:14.280 Still ahead, let's talk a little bit about Joe Burrow. Yeah, 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:16.800 the news of last week and what it may mean 0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:20.520 going forward. Will do that up next. He's Dave laphamm Lance. 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:21.040 But callister. 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.919 It's Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network and seven 0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:28.720 hundred WLW. As we continue on on this Monday night 0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.160 talking Bengals and the show, we call Bengals Line the 0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:34.480 Bengals Radio Network. It's seven hundred WLW and. 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.400 Pay Court is proud to be the official HR software 0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:39.440 provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:42.800 Right, Dave, last week, the big news, the surprise news, 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:46.160 the WHOA wait a minute, the Bengals make an announcement. 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:46.880 Joe Burrow. 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.360 They have opened up the window. It's a twenty one 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.800 day practice window where he can practice without counting against 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:57.240 the roster numbers. At this point, it seemed to have 0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:04.400 caught everybody off guard, what even his teammates. And that's good. 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:08.600 News, Yeah, really good news. Love it, how about it? 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.360 In a season of not so much good news, there 0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:14.800 is good news regarding Joe Burrow and any positive news 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:18.800 that involves number nine is tremendous news for the Cincinnati 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:22.120 Bengals organization. And uh, seeing him out in the field 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.520 throwing and and I'll tell you looks pretty damn good 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:27.920 to me. Man. He is he's snrolling the ball. The 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.600 ball is coming off his hand very fluidly, very easily, 0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:37.200 very smoothly. He's uh, he's directing the football exceptionally well. 0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:42.360 His his accuracy is still pinpoint. I haven't seen any 0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.440 any drop or any change in that. And you know, 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:48.520 the thing that Joe Burrow has is is just a 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.640 it's it's almost like the movie The Natural. He just 0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:55.439 has a feel for the game. He understands football about 0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:58.640 as well as it could be understood, you know. He 0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:02.840 he if he we're going to UH school at the 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.920 collegiate level and studying football, he'd have his doctorate and 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:08.200 be going for his doctor at plus thirty or whatever 1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:11.800 the hell it would be. He's he's an incredible, incredible 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:17.160 athlete physically and mentally, and it really does. It puts 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:21.760 a bounce in the step of everybody, you know, coaching staff, uh, players, 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.640 everybody involved in the Cincinnati Bengals when they see Joe 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:28.480 Burrow at that locker. And it has been interesting to 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:31.280 watch guys come by Joe Burrow's locker and you know, 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.120 sit down next to him and the empty locker and 1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:36.200 talk to him and you know, get get a feel 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:38.520 for what what he's doing and how he feels. And 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:40.760 they come come away from it, you can see a 1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:44.000 different a different like I said before, bouncing their step, 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:46.640 you know, a little bit different gait as they're as 1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:47.840 they're looking upon their day. 1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:53.040 The the initial speculation nationally what all this has happened was, uh, 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:57.120 maybe mid December, and now we're we're looking at speculation 1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:00.560 of maybe Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens. Maybe that's 1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:03.240 a little bit early. Maybe it's Buffalo the next week. 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:06.080 I just know this. It was fifty seven days from 1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:08.640 the surgery to his return to the practice field. And yeah, 1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:12.120 you could argue Joe's had a lot of practice unfortunately rehabbed. 1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:16.200 But you talk about sinking your all into a rehab 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:18.800 to get back for your team. This quickly says a 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:20.720 lot about Joe Burrow. Well, it didn't need to be said, 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:23.640 because I think everybody knew and respected it. But I'll 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:25.520 say it. He put a lot into this to get 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:26.000 back to this. 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:29.640 Point, no doubt. I mean he invested everything, you know, 1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:33.200 all of his time, all of his energy, and he 1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:36.680 wants to play. He loves his teammates, his teammates love him. 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:38.760 He wants to be part of it. It's like he's 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:40.640 got a big hole in his stomach, in his heart, 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:43.080 you know, and other organs probably in his body when 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:44.680 he's not able to go out there and do his 1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:48.840 thing because he is he's a high level, high producing 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:53.080 quarterback in the National Football League and he's a leader. 1:01:54.080 --> 1:01:59.560 There's the undisputed leader of the football team. And it's 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.640 just not the same when when Joe Burrow's not at 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.240 the helm and hopefully as sooner rather than later, and 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:08.920 that twenty one day deal, it's he doesn't have to 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:10.720 sit out the whole twenty one day. He can be 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:13.240 activated at any time. There as long as the coaches 1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:16.120 feel like he's ready. And then even more importantly or 1:02:16.160 --> 1:02:19.800 equally important to that is the training staff and Joey 1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:23.440 Bostay and everybody. Are they good with how Joe Burrow 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:26.760 is physically and can he handle the riggers in the 1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:28.040 physicality of the NFL. 1:02:29.040 --> 1:02:32.640 If let's let's play it out, he's clearly he's been 1:02:32.720 --> 1:02:35.760 cleared to do what he's doing. If that continues to 1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:38.960 be the case and he feels good, would there be 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:42.280 any hesitation? I'm one who I tended to fall to. 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:45.760 Players play, and if they're healthy and they want to play, 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:48.800 and they're cleared to play, they play. You know. The 1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:51.439 other side of the argument, the elephant of the room is, well, 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:53.520 if if they lose this game to the Patriots and 1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:56.000 they're sitting at three and eight, right, what's the use 1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:59.200 of playing Joe Burrow? But man, Joe's only played a 1:02:59.320 --> 1:03:01.760 game and a half this season, and if he's worked 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:05.600 his tail off to get back and he feels and medically, 1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:09.080 they say, green light, do you play Joe Burrow? Yes? 1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:12.480 And because I mean Joe Burrow, will He'll demand to 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.919 me play? You know? He he You're right, I mean 1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:19.800 he he is Uh. He is rehabbing like a banshee 1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:22.720 every single day with the thought in mind that I'm 1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:25.920 gonna go out there and play football, the game I love, 1:03:26.000 --> 1:03:28.040 the game I've done my entire life, and I am 1:03:28.040 --> 1:03:30.880 going to show my teammates the way I'm gonna I'm 1:03:30.880 --> 1:03:32.400 gonna lead the way. I'm going to be a beacon 1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:35.000 of light for my team and for this organization, and 1:03:35.200 --> 1:03:39.080 we're gonna win football games. And you never know what 1:03:39.280 --> 1:03:42.080 will happen around league. Maybe somebody else suffer assisting of 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:45.320 an injury at a key position, and all of a sudden, 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:48.560 they're a different football team. So you know, you play 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:50.840 it out man, and and uh, and Joe Burrow is 1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:51.960 ready to do that for sure. 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:56.480 Boy, I think of of messaging and optics. If Joe 1:03:56.520 --> 1:03:59.280 works his tail off this hard to get back and 1:03:59.280 --> 1:04:01.640 and he wants to, and he's been medically cleared, and 1:04:01.640 --> 1:04:03.560 and there's a debate, well, we're not going to play 1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:05.120 him because we're out of it. What does it say 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:06.920 to the rest of the tea. I just think it'd 1:04:06.960 --> 1:04:09.720 be a weird message to everybody else who's banged up, 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:12.360 and I know they're not QB one making fifty million year. 1:04:12.560 --> 1:04:14.720 But for anybody else banged up or gone through a 1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:17.200 lot this season, if they suddenly looking, your team says, well, no, 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:19.160 we're not going to play Joe because the season might 1:04:19.200 --> 1:04:21.560 be I just that's that's a tough message. 1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:24.040 It is. It's a bad message, and it's a double standard. Yeah, 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:25.920 you know, it's like, you know, you can't have a 1:04:26.000 --> 1:04:28.080 set of rules for everybody and then another set of 1:04:28.120 --> 1:04:30.440 rules for Joe Burrow because he's Joe Burrow. You know, 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:32.920 it's like that now you're playing with fire. 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:36.720 Yes, yeah, and we've heard he's he's using a I haven't. 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:39.560 I don't think anybody's seen it, a protective type thing 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:41.800 in the built into the shoe to help the toe. 1:04:41.880 --> 1:04:45.360 So there's precautions being taken there. And I think having 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:50.320 said all this, will still would we'll still kind of 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:51.880 hold her breath because you don't want him to get 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.280 hurt again. I mean, there's excitement that he's that he's 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:56.360 back and he'd be cleared and to be okay, you 1:04:56.480 --> 1:04:58.160 just don't want to get him hurt again. And that's 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:00.240 just the way it is. You know, you I went 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:01.320 your quarterback hurt. 1:05:01.240 --> 1:05:04.280 Right, and you know early on I'm not sure in 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:06.640 games if he'll be wearing that boot, he might just 1:05:06.720 --> 1:05:11.520 have a really you know, tape job that is extensive 1:05:11.920 --> 1:05:13.680 and taping the heck out of it where he can't 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:16.400 even ben it, can't move it at all. Because, like 1:05:16.440 --> 1:05:20.400 you said, Lance, the worst thing, a nightmare that can't 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:22.920 be imagined would be if he goes out there and 1:05:22.960 --> 1:05:23.640 re injures it. 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:27.960 Yeah, And I think in the end it can be 1:05:28.000 --> 1:05:32.160 as simple as if medically he's cleared and he wants 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:32.640 to play. 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:33.520 God. 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:33.960 Yeah. 1:05:34.040 --> 1:05:36.360 I mean if somebody says, well, he's eighty percent, then 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:38.880 I'm saying, well, I don't know, right, if he's seventy 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:41.200 five percent, if he's sixty, I don't want any I 1:05:41.280 --> 1:05:42.880 want one hundred percent. If you tell me he's one 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:45.439 hundred percent cleared and he's in his mind ready to play, 1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:47.200 then he goes out and plays football, because that's who 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:47.480 he is. 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:50.040 Yeah. In the game of football is you can be 1:05:50.080 --> 1:05:52.880 one hundred percent. You can have played five, six, seven 1:05:52.960 --> 1:05:54.960 years never been hurt, and then boom, Yeah in year 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:56.920 eight you're hurt. You're hurt in week one and you 1:05:57.000 --> 1:05:59.120 might miss the entire season or a half of or 1:05:59.120 --> 1:06:02.520 whatever the case may be. That's uh, that's that's life 1:06:02.560 --> 1:06:05.520 in the National Football League. But like you say, everybody 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:08.840 looks at the contract and the dollars that Joe Burrow's 1:06:08.880 --> 1:06:12.680 being paid, and you know understandably, so that's that's part 1:06:12.680 --> 1:06:16.040 of professional sports these days and any any one of 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:20.760 the major professional sports. But you're right, in my mind, 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:24.040 I would not mess with it. If he is ninety 1:06:24.120 --> 1:06:27.240 nine point nine percent, I want him one hundred percent 1:06:27.360 --> 1:06:29.040 to go out in that football field and do his thing. 1:06:29.080 --> 1:06:31.200 Yeah, let's be honest. And you said at the start 1:06:31.240 --> 1:06:33.920 of the show, the way that this season, unfortunately has trended, 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:36.800 there's there's a lot of people's futures in doubt. And 1:06:37.000 --> 1:06:39.120 if I'm part of the coaching staff, I want Joe 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:42.280 Burrow playing because no disrespect to Joe Flacco. We love 1:06:42.320 --> 1:06:44.800 what Joe Flacco has brought to help the store team. 1:06:45.080 --> 1:06:47.800 But Joe Burrow is Joe Burrow, and that's one of 1:06:47.840 --> 1:06:49.920 a handful of the best quarterbacks in the NFL who 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:51.640 gives you a better chance to win football game. 1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:54.520 Absolutely, you want your best players out on the football 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:57.200 field giving you the best chance to win as many 1:06:57.280 --> 1:06:58.840 games as you possibly can. 1:06:59.560 --> 1:07:03.000 We roll on on this Monday Night, talking about what 1:07:03.160 --> 1:07:06.240 happened yesterday, talking about what could happen in the future, 1:07:06.240 --> 1:07:08.640 and that includes a look at the New England Patriots. 1:07:08.640 --> 1:07:10.760 A little bit later on in the eight o'clock hour, 1:07:10.800 --> 1:07:13.520 it's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven 1:07:13.600 --> 1:07:19.840 hundred WLW. Down the stretch we go in our second 1:07:19.880 --> 1:07:22.160 of three big hours to night of Bengals Line on 1:07:22.200 --> 1:07:25.600 the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW and Dave 1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:27.800 looking at the big picture before we get into our 1:07:27.840 --> 1:07:29.560 third hour tonight. Here a little bit more from Zach. 1:07:29.600 --> 1:07:31.600 Here a little bit more from Joe Flacco. It is amazing. 1:07:31.640 --> 1:07:34.400 It's part of the drama that is the NFL, the 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:39.280 greatest reality show on earth. The uncertainty of year to year. 1:07:39.520 --> 1:07:41.480 You may be bad one year, you're suddenly good the 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:44.400 next year. The salary cap, the scheduling, all that plays 1:07:44.400 --> 1:07:47.560 into There's amazing numbers from year to year, the number 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:49.760 of tea I think at least four teams every year 1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:51.880 for like the last thirty years have gone from last 1:07:51.920 --> 1:07:53.680 to first at just nuts. And I look at the 1:07:53.680 --> 1:07:56.840 standings this morning and I see, as of today, the 1:07:56.960 --> 1:07:59.320 Ravens would not make the playoffs. There five and five, 1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:01.720 the Chiefs would make the playoffs. They're five and five 1:08:01.760 --> 1:08:04.440 over the NFC. The Lions would not make the playoffs. 1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:08.040 It's just it's it's the beauty of the NFL. From 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:11.560 a TV marketing standpoint, it's got to be the frustration 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:15.200 of building football teams. Sometimes you just don't know. One 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:17.840 year to the next things happen and there's a there's 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:21.160 i mean, Denver's nine and two, New England's nine and two. 1:08:21.200 --> 1:08:23.280 Who saw New England being nine and two. It's just 1:08:23.560 --> 1:08:24.920 that's life in the NFL. 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:28.759 No, you're you're absolutely right, and uh you know what, 1:08:28.760 --> 1:08:31.760 what a what a coaching job has taken place in 1:08:31.760 --> 1:08:35.240 New England. I mean they are just talk about turning 1:08:35.240 --> 1:08:37.599 it around. I mean Drake Mays has had a hell 1:08:37.640 --> 1:08:40.519 of an impact on that organization, on that on that 1:08:40.560 --> 1:08:45.679 football team. Uh, they're they're playing, they're playing really really well, 1:08:46.240 --> 1:08:49.880 a good brand of football. But there's not a team 1:08:49.880 --> 1:08:52.479 in the NFL that hasn't lost two games, you know, 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:55.920 and and like you say, rattling off the teams that 1:08:55.960 --> 1:08:58.639 are at five hundred, that's why, that's why the Bengals 1:08:58.640 --> 1:09:00.720 could have gotten this one at four six there one 1:09:00.760 --> 1:09:03.200 game out with you know, with eight to play, they're 1:09:03.320 --> 1:09:05.920 definitely still you know, in the hunt. But the one 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:08.120 thing you can't do is cashing your chips as a player. 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:10.679 You can't say it's over now, you know, we're done. 1:09:10.800 --> 1:09:12.800 It's a it's a it's a it's a big piece 1:09:12.800 --> 1:09:16.760 of history there. So uh, you know, they they they 1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:20.240 have to they have to keep their nose to the grindstone, 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:26.160 keep keep preparing. Like you know, you're you're fighting for uh, 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:29.160 your division title, you're fighting for a playoff birth, You're 1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:35.040 you're fighting for your professional career. And there's a lot 1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:36.800 to a lot to be said for that, you know, 1:09:36.920 --> 1:09:38.840 and and going that mindset, and. 1:09:38.800 --> 1:09:41.000 They think of the way things turn. I mean, who 1:09:41.000 --> 1:09:44.280 would have Indianapolis is eight and two with Daniel Jones 1:09:44.320 --> 1:09:47.439 as their quarterback? Nobody could have imagined that coming. And 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:49.840 yet here here we are with where the cults are 1:09:49.880 --> 1:09:51.280 standing right now. It's incredible. 1:09:51.360 --> 1:09:54.320 Yeah, that's the beauty of sports, you know, is if 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:58.439 you think you can, uh, you can make uh pick 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:02.840 every where, but he's gonna finish in every single division. Yep, 1:10:02.920 --> 1:10:05.040 you get another thing coming, man. I Mean, there's so 1:10:05.080 --> 1:10:09.400 many variables the injury variable. Like you said, what they 1:10:09.439 --> 1:10:11.559 got in the draft from one year to the next, 1:10:11.680 --> 1:10:13.559 what they got in free agency from one year to 1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:15.759 the next, all those kind of things, all the team 1:10:15.760 --> 1:10:19.200 building aspect of things. I mean, you can you can 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:22.559 change a change a team team around very very quickly, 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:24.120 like they've done in New England. 1:10:24.200 --> 1:10:28.240 Boy in that that Baltimore Ravens team was once one 1:10:28.280 --> 1:10:30.479 in five and they were giving up I think they've 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:33.000 given up more points in any five game stretch in 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:35.400 their franchise history. And people started the doubt them. And 1:10:35.479 --> 1:10:38.479 Lamar was hurt, and now he's healthy, they're playing better defense. 1:10:38.520 --> 1:10:40.720 And you look up in Baltimore is now five and 1:10:40.760 --> 1:10:42.920 five and right here come the Baltimore Ravens. 1:10:43.120 --> 1:10:47.320 Yeah. And when you have quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and 1:10:47.400 --> 1:10:52.040 Lamar Jackson, you know, don't don't don't count those teams out. 1:10:52.120 --> 1:10:54.880 Don't count them out too soon, because stranger things have 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:59.559 happened and uh, and these guys are uber competitive, there's 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:02.479 no question about it. And they would love nothing more 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:07.480 than to change everybody's plans the way things are unfolding. 1:11:07.600 --> 1:11:09.720 By the way, to end the our final thought, I 1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:12.840 meant to ask you this earlier. Much was made of 1:11:13.160 --> 1:11:15.679 the swaying goal post yesterday with the wind. What tell 1:11:15.720 --> 1:11:16.519 me what was it like? 1:11:16.640 --> 1:11:16.920 Visual? 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:19.120 It was the wind and the impact on yesterday's game 1:11:19.120 --> 1:11:19.639 in Pittsburgh. 1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:23.120 Yeah, the wind was a was an issue, was a factor. 1:11:23.560 --> 1:11:26.400 I thought that that the players handled it pretty darn 1:11:26.439 --> 1:11:30.320 well though, you know, I mean, I think they made it. 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:33.680 It impacted the game minimally, you know, really it was 1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:37.040 almost inconsequential, which you know, you got to applaud the 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:41.439 effort of everybody for that. So you take the wind 1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:44.120 into account, but you don't let it dominate your thinking. 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:46.880 By the way, as much as I don't like the 1:11:46.920 --> 1:11:51.559 Pittsburgh Steelers that renegade, that scene in that stadium with 1:11:51.640 --> 1:11:52.920 that music playing. 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:56.720 Is just it is it really is. I mean, the 1:11:57.520 --> 1:12:01.000 fan base that is something they they they wait on 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:03.840 that with baited breath, man they do, and they let 1:12:03.840 --> 1:12:04.240 it roll. 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:06.240 Let it go, man, they do. 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:08.720 All Right, that's two in the books. We've got one 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:10.559 more to get to, a little bit more from Zach 1:12:10.640 --> 1:12:13.719 Taylor on yesterday's defeat, a little bit more from Joe Flacco. 1:12:13.800 --> 1:12:17.320 We'll do fun facts here that from Dan Horton. Get 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:19.840 into those Patriots a little bit more as we head 1:12:19.920 --> 1:12:22.920 down the stretch. Oh and also remind me, Dave Lapham, 1:12:23.240 --> 1:12:27.000 I've got our final segment. Final segment. It was this date. 1:12:27.040 --> 1:12:28.800 I'll give you a little hint here. It was this date, 1:12:28.960 --> 1:12:35.760 nineteen seventy five. It was Bengals Bill's Ken Anderson through 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:39.719 the Air, OJ on the ground. Yeah, Monday Night Football. 1:12:39.800 --> 1:12:42.000 It happened on this date. I might have to ask 1:12:42.040 --> 1:12:43.240 you for memories of that game. 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:45.040 Okay, as we continue. 1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:47.400 He is Dave Lapham, I Aliance pick Alistair. It's Bengals 1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:54.960 on On on the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Hey, 1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:57.920 welcome back Gain hour number three of three tonight. Thanks 1:12:57.920 --> 1:12:59.799 for being with us on Bengals one of the Bengals 1:13:00.160 --> 1:13:03.200 Network at seven hundred WLW. Plans p Caanos Drew along 1:13:03.200 --> 1:13:06.280 with Dave Lapham and Lance Bengals Friday Night Stripes Tour 1:13:06.400 --> 1:13:09.520 presented by a Hole Kat is back for all locations 1:13:09.560 --> 1:13:10.080 this season. 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:12.320 Go to Bengals dot Com slash community. 1:13:12.560 --> 1:13:15.840 Thirty four twelve the final Yesterday's the Bengals dropped a 1:13:15.920 --> 1:13:17.920 three and seven on the season with the Laws. So 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:20.360 let's get more from the coach. Here's Zach with the 1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:21.599 media after the game. 1:13:21.880 --> 1:13:23.320 You got to give them credit. They did the things 1:13:23.360 --> 1:13:25.400 you gotta do to win these games. AFC Now North 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:29.599 November December Football. They did it, you know, and they 1:13:30.600 --> 1:13:32.759 tackled better. They won the turner of battle two to nothing, 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:34.719 and that's the recipe for success. 1:13:34.800 --> 1:13:36.400 And I think. 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:39.320 Ultimately the score, the score is not indicative of how 1:13:39.360 --> 1:13:41.559 the game played through through the first three quarters, but 1:13:41.600 --> 1:13:42.880 it is what it is. They did the things you 1:13:42.920 --> 1:13:44.960 gotta win and so they got a chance to run 1:13:44.960 --> 1:13:47.240 away with it. And it was really frustrating and disappointing 1:13:47.240 --> 1:13:48.920 because this is not what we expected to run. But 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:50.719 so what we did, you was to turn a battle 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:56.320 two to nothing. That's how it's gonna play out. 1:13:57.320 --> 1:14:01.559 There was yeah, what was happening. 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:05.160 It got loud, you know, so the communication became a 1:14:05.160 --> 1:14:08.000 problem on one of the timeouts. So your choice is 1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:09.680 just stand there and run no play you know, as 1:14:09.720 --> 1:14:11.479 you're trying to figure out with ten seconds on the 1:14:11.479 --> 1:14:14.120 play clock, and so we called the time out there 1:14:14.200 --> 1:14:17.120 and the delay of game was just again hard to hear. 1:14:17.320 --> 1:14:18.880 So I'm sure we're having to repeat a lot of calls, 1:14:19.000 --> 1:14:20.640 repeat calls on my end so that we can hear 1:14:20.680 --> 1:14:23.439 him in the huddle and then repat him in huddle. 1:14:23.479 --> 1:14:27.479 So it's challenging. It was a loud environment, yeah, trying 1:14:27.479 --> 1:14:29.120 to get him jump, trying to get him jump. It's 1:14:29.160 --> 1:14:31.639 it's a tough call. They they are a tough short 1:14:31.680 --> 1:14:36.560 yardage unit to go against. So yeah, it's it's that 1:14:36.720 --> 1:14:39.400 that's a decision worth criticizing. I'm not going to doubt that. 1:14:40.760 --> 1:14:42.800 But that was we went into the game film like 1:14:42.840 --> 1:14:44.400 that was an opportunity for us and didn't work out. 1:14:45.080 --> 1:14:46.599 Did you feel like you were going to get momento 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:51.639 after just throw, you know, just because all that happened beforehand, 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:53.639 But even did you make you like get a little 1:14:54.320 --> 1:14:54.639 they lost. 1:14:55.240 --> 1:14:57.240 We were just expecting to go score, you know, and 1:14:57.240 --> 1:15:00.240 and uh came away with a field goal. Andra, if 1:15:00.280 --> 1:15:04.000 I'm not mistaken. So again, I I don't read too 1:15:04.040 --> 1:15:06.439 much into how that situation unfolded. We're just we're just 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:13.720 trying to call the next play. Oh I didn't. I 1:15:13.720 --> 1:15:15.320 still thought he threw the ball. Well, I mean it 1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:17.280 was as windy a game as ever ever been a 1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:19.639 part of. So as we watched the tape, I don't 1:15:19.640 --> 1:15:21.280 I don't know how much that factor did anything. I 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:22.880 felt like he was throwing well and probably where he 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:25.640 wanted to. Maybe he'll tell you different, but again that 1:15:25.720 --> 1:15:27.439 was that was you know, for both teams, it was 1:15:27.560 --> 1:15:32.639 there's a win again. Yes, yes. 1:15:37.000 --> 1:15:37.240 They did. 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:38.800 I mean it was certainly one of the better games 1:15:38.800 --> 1:15:42.439 they played, and so they gave us those opportunities, you know, 1:15:42.600 --> 1:15:45.240 ten points third halftime after giving out that first drive 1:15:45.280 --> 1:15:48.879 of the game. I was happy with the punts they forced. Unfortunately, 1:15:48.880 --> 1:15:51.000 we couldn't capitalize on offense and get enough points on 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:53.400 the board to take advantage, especially with the ball coming 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:56.360 out so at the second half, and you know, overall 1:15:56.400 --> 1:15:57.920 in the second half, just the two positions, we just 1:15:57.960 --> 1:15:59.280 got to get him on the ground. There's a lot 1:15:59.320 --> 1:16:02.240 of opportunities to get them on the ground. We're working 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:04.640 like crazy, talking like it crazy. It's just got to 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:05.000 show up. 1:16:08.400 --> 1:16:08.760 There's tough. 1:16:08.800 --> 1:16:10.080 I mean, the their defense is a great job. You 1:16:10.120 --> 1:16:12.839 have to give them credit. Well, coach, they have great players. 1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:16.640 You know, we we had some some drives there in 1:16:16.640 --> 1:16:19.320 the first half. We weren't backed up per se, but 1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:22.240 you know, minus ten, minus fifteen felt like we were 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:24.400 working our way out of that thing, and you just 1:16:24.439 --> 1:16:26.479 can't kind of stall out at midfield, and so just 1:16:26.520 --> 1:16:29.439 didn't sustain, didn't get the exposive plays we we'd like 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:31.240 to get. And that's you know, that's that's a credit 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:33.960 to them. That's that's how they played us. And they 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:35.160 were going to make us go to the link of 1:16:35.200 --> 1:16:36.600 the field, and we just weren't able to do that 1:16:36.600 --> 1:16:43.040 in the first half. I saw that first drive, yeah, 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:45.080 because we we had them behind the sticks plenty of times, 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:46.960 you know, and I think that was it was great, 1:16:47.040 --> 1:16:48.720 you know for our guys to do that and and 1:16:48.840 --> 1:16:51.360 some opportunities to take advantage of and and so then 1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:53.000 when they convert, Yeah, that takes the win out of 1:16:53.040 --> 1:16:58.240 you a little bit. Yeah, they again, I don't I 1:16:58.280 --> 1:17:00.320 don't think we we were ever in a tremendous rhythm 1:17:00.800 --> 1:17:04.639 in any facet. And and you have to credit them, 1:17:04.960 --> 1:17:06.719 you know. They they had a great plan, They played 1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:10.000 well at times, we found some momentum and just it 1:17:10.120 --> 1:17:12.240 wasn't enough of that to to go out and score 1:17:12.280 --> 1:17:17.880 enough points to win in the game keeping school there, Yeah, yeah, 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:20.800 I mean these guys are in emotional matchups. We all 1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:23.479 know that there's a lot at stake for teams. There's 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.559 a lot at stake for these individuals. It's competitive when 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:29.280 when you got great players going against great players, it's 1:17:29.320 --> 1:17:31.360 going to be emotional at times. And jamar Is always 1:17:31.360 --> 1:17:34.559 do an excellent job of of controlling what you can control, 1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:37.360 and and so I respect that about them. 1:17:41.240 --> 1:17:42.000 Were able to win. 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:45.679 He asked you about tackling to a point. 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:46.599 Where you guys. 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:52.760 And games that you might personnel changes to see if 1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:55.880 that can help tackling exactly. 1:17:56.640 --> 1:17:57.960 Might be about. 1:17:58.720 --> 1:17:59.640 But on the. 1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:07.639 I have no idea. 1:18:07.800 --> 1:18:09.840 I didn't see any of it. I got the worst 1:18:09.880 --> 1:18:12.000 view in the house. So I again, they didn't call 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:14.040 us for anything. So I'm proud of our guys I 1:18:14.360 --> 1:18:16.160 I have. I have the worst eating house, no idea. 1:18:21.240 --> 1:18:28.640 You you feel them, you feel all the losses that 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:33.120 you feel them all they eat at you all. You know, 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:35.439 we're working, We're working like crazy to make sure that 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:39.599 this doesn't happen. It happened today is disappointing. Our option 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:42.040 is come back tomorrow and keep fighting and find a 1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:43.479 way to get a win. And we got a red 1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:46.600 hot team coming in here, and so what that's what 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:48.519 we're gonna do. We're gonna do everything we can to 1:18:48.560 --> 1:18:50.720 clean this up, correct the mistakes, get back to work. 1:18:51.000 --> 1:18:53.920 And fight another week and find a way to get 1:18:53.920 --> 1:18:57.720 a win. Same just what I just said, the same thing. 1:18:59.280 --> 1:19:02.320 Opportunities just to kind of tighten things. 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:05.400 Of course, you know it's we were our goals would 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:07.240 be three and oer in the division, you know, coming 1:19:07.240 --> 1:19:08.880 out of this game. And that's that's not how out 1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:20.000 New England. I mean, it's simple, find a way to 1:19:20.320 --> 1:19:22.840 scratch and call and get a win and get the 1:19:22.880 --> 1:19:25.360 feeling we had back three weeks ago and we'd beat Pittsburgh, 1:19:25.479 --> 1:19:29.360 you know, and gave us a good opportunity. And so 1:19:29.479 --> 1:19:31.360 that's where we're back to. We're back to just find 1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:33.160 a way to get a win against New England and 1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:35.719 try to capitalize when them. That is our only option right. 1:19:35.640 --> 1:19:39.719 Now, Zach after the game yesterday, early on a couple 1:19:39.760 --> 1:19:42.800 of points during the game. Early on, Bengals score on 1:19:42.920 --> 1:19:45.519 their first drive, there's a penalty that moves the ball 1:19:45.600 --> 1:19:48.120 to the one. I had no issue with Zach going 1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:51.360 for two at that right right, probably would have gone 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:52.960 with a different play. I don't know if I run 1:19:53.000 --> 1:19:54.800 into the teeth of the Steeler defense on it. But 1:19:55.160 --> 1:19:56.960 did you have a problem from the start with the 1:19:57.040 --> 1:19:58.920 opportunity to go for two? No, I didn't. 1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:02.120 I thought, you know, I had no issue with the 1:20:02.160 --> 1:20:04.679 decision that was made there. I mean, if you can't 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:07.360 make a yard, you don't deserve it, you know, so, 1:20:08.720 --> 1:20:10.479 but I agree with you. I think the play selection, 1:20:10.640 --> 1:20:12.400 in hindsight, I think Zach would have gone in a 1:20:12.439 --> 1:20:13.439 different direction as well. 1:20:14.080 --> 1:20:17.000 One other aspect of this offense that is maddening, Dave 1:20:17.400 --> 1:20:20.400 is how long it seems to take them to get 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:24.840 plays in that lead to timeouts or or delay of game. 1:20:24.920 --> 1:20:27.879 There was one point Joe Flacco turned to the sideline 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:29.600 and kind of had his arms up like that, and 1:20:29.840 --> 1:20:32.840 Zach was like, what And it's just that that has 1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:36.439 to be fixed. That that delay is just because any 1:20:36.520 --> 1:20:39.840 quarterback would want as much time, and Joe Burrow specifically 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:41.800 is so good processing at the line, you want to 1:20:41.840 --> 1:20:44.439 give him time and not rush things. And so many 1:20:44.560 --> 1:20:46.759 times things seemed rushed to get a playoff. 1:20:46.840 --> 1:20:51.439 Yeah, and there's no excuse for you know, time management 1:20:51.520 --> 1:20:55.479 issues where you know you're literally going down in the 1:20:55.560 --> 1:20:58.439 last second and having to quick snap the football or 1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:02.479 you know, not having to burn timeouts in order to 1:21:03.200 --> 1:21:06.559 you know, alleviate a penalty that would be incurred otherwise. 1:21:06.640 --> 1:21:09.280 I mean, those are the kind of things that from 1:21:09.320 --> 1:21:12.360 a game management standpoint, you just you just can't you 1:21:12.520 --> 1:21:15.200 just can't really have. And I don't know if it's 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:18.559 like Zach's, you know, talking to Dan Pitcher and other 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:22.479 members of the offense, and everybody's got opinions and everybody's 1:21:22.479 --> 1:21:25.160 sworn opinions out, and there's you know, they don't have 1:21:25.280 --> 1:21:28.160 enough time to sort through it all. If that's the case, 1:21:28.240 --> 1:21:30.360 that has to be remedied, I mean you have to, 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:35.360 you have to have I remember Bill Walsh. I saw 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:39.120 his play sheet for a game one time, and every 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:43.040 single down in distance he had two or three things 1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:45.200 that he was going to be thinking about so he 1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:49.000 would get to the crux of it right away. And Okay, 1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:51.280 based on what I've seen so far, it's the first 1:21:51.360 --> 1:21:53.320 quarter of the game, I haven't really seen all that much. 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:57.360 Let's try this. Well, okay, I've seen a lot more 1:21:57.400 --> 1:22:00.760 snaps of what they're doing defensively. Next time that comes up, 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:03.680 sure and make a notation and he'd be over there 1:22:03.760 --> 1:22:05.880 like a mad you know, mad professor writing on his 1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:09.679 on his play by play sheet. You know, but those 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:12.040 I think those are the guys who have a lot 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:17.200 of success. Uh, you know preparation. He burned the midnight 1:22:17.280 --> 1:22:19.720 hours man he was. He was all about preparation for 1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:22.840 the game. So when when the game unfolded, he was ready. 1:22:23.600 --> 1:22:26.000 Good stuff. Take a time out and continue a little 1:22:26.080 --> 1:22:28.479 hear a little bit more from Joe Flacco as we 1:22:28.560 --> 1:22:30.720 make our way through this Monday night. The show is 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:34.520 Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 1:22:37.760 --> 1:22:39.800 Let's keep it moving on this Monday night of talking 1:22:39.800 --> 1:22:42.880 Bengals on Bengals Line, the Bengals Radio Network and seven 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:43.920 hundred WLW. 1:22:44.479 --> 1:22:46.840 Hey, Bengals fans, make sure to catch me and Dan 1:22:46.920 --> 1:22:50.559 Hoard every Wednesday this season for Bengals Game Plan presented 1:22:50.600 --> 1:22:52.640 by Bud Light on the air from six to eight 1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:54.639 pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:22:54.800 --> 1:22:56.920 Joe Flacco again, one hundred and ninety nine yards through 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:59.479 the air, through a touchdown, through a pick six, one 1:22:59.560 --> 1:23:02.479 up with thequarterback rating of sixty eight point six years 1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:04.760 more from Joe after the game. 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:06.200 Listen to me. 1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:09.640 We're halfway through the season. Basically, it's a little bit 1:23:09.680 --> 1:23:13.200 more now, but it really is so tough to look 1:23:13.200 --> 1:23:15.599 at it that way. I think it's easy to get 1:23:15.720 --> 1:23:21.800 caught up in that stuff, But you know it, I 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:24.640 I really try to remove myself from those situations and 1:23:24.760 --> 1:23:28.160 just go play football. And I think if you do that, 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:29.840 that's when you give yourself the best chance to be 1:23:29.920 --> 1:23:33.439 in the best position you want. Obviously, that's there lingering 1:23:33.520 --> 1:23:35.600 and you know, the opportunity and all that stuff, but 1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:38.320 you got to try to avoid getting caught up in 1:23:38.360 --> 1:23:40.840 those things are you're trying to manage the pain in 1:23:40.880 --> 1:23:42.880 the shoulder. How much worse did he get after? 1:23:45.360 --> 1:23:45.479 Now? 1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:47.960 I mean, listen, that's football. He did a good job. 1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:50.960 He buried me in the turf. But uh but I 1:23:51.000 --> 1:23:52.720 felt good, you know, felt good all game. 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:55.639 Did they changed much the way they attack Jamara? 1:23:57.240 --> 1:23:59.840 Well, I think they made sure that. They probably did 1:23:59.880 --> 1:24:01.880 it more. Just they probably had a couple of guys 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:03.880 on him more often than they did in the first game. 1:24:04.160 --> 1:24:08.400 And you know, that's why they're a good football team. 1:24:08.800 --> 1:24:08.920 Uh. 1:24:09.520 --> 1:24:11.439 And we knew, we knew they're gonna make adjustments and 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:14.160 come in here and and play better than they did 1:24:14.200 --> 1:24:16.599 the first time we played them, and we just gotta 1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:17.400 we gotta match that. 1:24:19.040 --> 1:24:21.080 Two safeties would do gooder than that five. 1:24:21.280 --> 1:24:26.360 Did they did they change much bigger? Listen? I think 1:24:26.400 --> 1:24:28.800 everything they did we kind of had a plan for 1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:31.599 and and and could see that you know, why they 1:24:31.640 --> 1:24:33.160 were doing it and the fact that they were going 1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:35.439 to do it. You have to ask them, I mean 1:24:35.640 --> 1:24:37.400 in terms of what they feel like they can do 1:24:37.560 --> 1:24:39.720 and and and you know, I know, those guys are 1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:42.160 good players. And anytime you get your best players out there, 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:43.760 you feel you feel like you got a you know, 1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:44.760 a good thing going. 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:47.360 Do you feel like there was a miss in terms 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:49.080 of point when they lose their safety too, do you 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:51.680 look at the situation orrey down do the secondary and 1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:52.599 you know whatever? 1:24:53.920 --> 1:24:55.559 I just think I just think the way they were 1:24:55.600 --> 1:25:01.200 playing that stuff mattered. Obviously it matters over the long haul. 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.400 But the way they were playing and trying to double 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:05.439 guys and doing those things and just trying to get 1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:08.360 pressure with their front. I don't think it was one 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:11.439 of those things where you could, you know, start drawing 1:25:11.479 --> 1:25:13.599 stuff up and take advantage of because guys were out. 1:25:13.640 --> 1:25:15.240 I think they were still sticking to their plan and 1:25:15.479 --> 1:25:16.960 doing what they were gonna do against. 1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:20.880 Us made so many you've made it, so. 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:22.360 Many eight teams here. 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:24.920 When did you begin to think that they might. 1:25:24.880 --> 1:25:28.800 Be you know, equipment and ground well no. I mean, listen, 1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:33.880 these games, you know they're gonna be battles. And even 1:25:33.920 --> 1:25:36.280 though this looks like a lot, it looks really bad. 1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:39.679 It's one of those typical games that you come playing 1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:41.400 here and all of a sudden it breaks loose and 1:25:41.479 --> 1:25:46.200 it goes the other way. But this you felt it today. 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:49.280 It was a hard, physical game. They you knew they 1:25:49.320 --> 1:25:51.240 were gonna make it tough, tough for it for us, 1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:54.120 and we just didn't come through in those couple of 1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:59.599 little moments. You know, they got two touchdowns on defense 1:25:59.640 --> 1:26:03.040 and got everybody excited and we're able to pin their 1:26:03.080 --> 1:26:05.960 ears back and do their thing. And you know, that's 1:26:06.000 --> 1:26:09.120 what this game comes down to. It's it's one or 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:12.799 two plays that you can look back on, and obviously 1:26:12.840 --> 1:26:14.640 there's more than that and just the consistency of it, 1:26:14.720 --> 1:26:18.160 but there's always those plays. And it comes down to 1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:20.680 just playing and winning football and and and kind of 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:24.400 waiting for your opportunity and you know, not letting not 1:26:24.520 --> 1:26:26.880 letting yourself get too far out ahead of yourself, and 1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:29.479 and trying to make things happen when they're not going to. 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:31.519 And I don't really think we were doing that today, 1:26:31.600 --> 1:26:35.639 but we obviously you know, just we weren't able to wait, wait, wait, 1:26:35.720 --> 1:26:39.000 wait and strike. We uh, we made mistakes and they capitalized. 1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:43.240 I don't think so, I I I, I don't think so. 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:45.479 And you know, I didn't pay much attention to it 1:26:45.560 --> 1:26:47.080 during the game, but you like it, it was windy 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:49.160 out there. You could tell pregame ball was moving around. 1:26:49.200 --> 1:26:52.360 I don't think I've seen it like that before. I 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:54.120 don't think so. I. I, like I said, I don't. 1:26:54.120 --> 1:26:55.960 I think during the game it r it really didn't 1:26:56.040 --> 1:27:01.360 end up playing, you know, being a huge factor Georgian defense. 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:04.479 But the team I thought they did a lot of 1:27:04.520 --> 1:27:07.240 good things today. You know, it's just a shame in 1:27:07.280 --> 1:27:10.160 the way that you know, we're kind of not managing 1:27:10.200 --> 1:27:13.439 each other right now and playing both sides as well 1:27:13.439 --> 1:27:14.479 as we can at the same time. 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:18.240 So I know you your jobbing on the sidelines. But 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:20.200 the extent you got to. 1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:25.760 See defensive at all, was there anything to your eyes 1:27:25.840 --> 1:27:27.720 that looked different about what they. 1:27:27.680 --> 1:27:30.439 Were doing well today versus it looked like they got 1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:31.800 you know, it looked like they were pinning their ears 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:33.840 back a little bit more and playing with some confidence 1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:35.880 and playing with some speed, so they were able to 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:37.719 kind of you know, break through the line a little 1:27:37.760 --> 1:27:39.880 bit and you know, get in the backfield a little 1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:41.519 bit more. And I just it just looked like they 1:27:41.560 --> 1:27:42.200 were playing faster. 1:27:42.560 --> 1:27:45.000 Joe Flacco after the game and Dave, one thing was 1:27:45.120 --> 1:27:48.479 very clear. The Steelers took a much different approach to 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:50.760 how they were going to handle Tea and Jamar this time. 1:27:50.840 --> 1:27:53.759 In the first meeting, Jamar and t were targeted thirty 1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:57.400 three times and had twenty two catches. Yesterday, Tea and 1:27:57.520 --> 1:28:01.320 Jamar combined for six catches on eighteen targets. 1:28:01.800 --> 1:28:01.920 Uh. 1:28:02.240 --> 1:28:06.080 The Steelers certainly made the made their adjustments and weren't 1:28:06.080 --> 1:28:08.840 gonna let Jamar Chase go off like he did the 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:09.400 first meeting. 1:28:09.520 --> 1:28:12.320 No, I mean they were like fly paper. I mean 1:28:12.400 --> 1:28:14.880 they had they had somebody. It was me and my 1:28:15.000 --> 1:28:17.920 shadow for both of those guys. I mean they they 1:28:18.000 --> 1:28:21.040 had people, you know, picking them up immediately once they 1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:24.479 came off the line of scrimmage. And I saw in 1:28:24.600 --> 1:28:27.320 both cases, said, you know, double teams almost every single 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:30.080 snap as they were in the process of running their routes, 1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:33.200 and sometimes it'd be a you know, a third defensive 1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:36.080 player would work their way over in that direction and 1:28:36.160 --> 1:28:40.519 then and then get involved so they had those two targeted. 1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:43.800 They know that a big reason they lost the first 1:28:43.880 --> 1:28:47.200 matchup was because of those two, because of Jamar Chase 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:50.200 and t Higgins. So they were going to neutralize those 1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:53.840 efforts and uh and and and diminish their contribution for sure, 1:28:54.520 --> 1:28:57.120 and I think they probably feel like that's a big 1:28:57.200 --> 1:28:59.719 reason that they won the rematch. 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:03.000 Stick around more to get to, including Dan's weekly segment 1:29:03.080 --> 1:29:05.920 that we love fun facts talking with the Pride of 1:29:06.080 --> 1:29:09.720 Saint X Bengals quarterback Sean Clifford. Ahead, plus we'll get 1:29:09.760 --> 1:29:12.240 into those New England Patriots and what Mike Vrabel has 1:29:12.320 --> 1:29:14.880 done with that team. All ahead, as we rock and 1:29:15.040 --> 1:29:17.840 roll through a Monday night of talking Bengals football and 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:26.360 Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, 1:29:26.400 --> 1:29:28.360 we're back on Bengals Line of this Monday night on 1:29:28.360 --> 1:29:31.599 the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW, sorting through 1:29:31.680 --> 1:29:34.360 yesterday and about to look ahead before we're done at 1:29:34.360 --> 1:29:37.800 those New England Patriots on this Monday night and. 1:29:37.960 --> 1:29:40.679 Bengals fans on Fridays, make sure to listen to myself 1:29:40.760 --> 1:29:43.720 and Dan Horde from Bengals PEP Rally presented by Just 1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:46.360 Bear Chicken on the air from three to six pm 1:29:46.479 --> 1:29:48.160 on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:50.160 Speaking of Dan, each week we take a listen to 1:29:50.280 --> 1:29:53.040 his Fantastic Fun Fact segment. We love it he gets 1:29:53.080 --> 1:29:56.240 behind the scenes with a Bengal In this week, behind 1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:58.759 the scenes with the Pride of Saint X, the former 1:29:58.960 --> 1:30:03.400 Saint X quarterback Bengals quarterback. Here is Dan with Sean Clifford. 1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:08.360 No Fantastic Fun Facts with Dan Ord. 1:30:09.240 --> 1:30:11.680 Time for some fun facts with quarterback Sean Clifford, a 1:30:11.800 --> 1:30:15.040 local kid out of Saint Xavier High School here in Cincinnati. 1:30:15.400 --> 1:30:17.519 You haven't had the opportunity to play in a game 1:30:17.640 --> 1:30:19.680 yet for the Bengals, but describe what it's been like 1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:21.920 for you to go to work every day at pay 1:30:22.000 --> 1:30:22.599 Court Stadium. 1:30:22.680 --> 1:30:22.880 Yeah. 1:30:22.920 --> 1:30:25.160 I think it means lots of my family first and foremost. 1:30:25.320 --> 1:30:27.840 You know, the the Cliffords have been living here for 1:30:27.920 --> 1:30:31.000 over twenty years now, and you know, we really truly 1:30:31.080 --> 1:30:33.479 call this place a home. So just being able to 1:30:33.520 --> 1:30:36.080 go to work with a great group of guys, great 1:30:36.120 --> 1:30:40.000 coaching staff, and great front office. I think that all together, 1:30:40.560 --> 1:30:42.680 it just means a little extra. I know it means 1:30:42.720 --> 1:30:45.080 a lot to the guys in this locker room, but 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:49.320 for me personally, you know, it is personal. So it's 1:30:49.360 --> 1:30:51.240 been a it's been a pleasure to be here so 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:53.599 far and looking get some wins in the future. 1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:55.800 Did you attend a lot of Bengals games when you 1:30:55.840 --> 1:30:58.840 were young, and if so, do any specific memories stand out. 1:30:59.040 --> 1:31:00.880 We would, We would go to games all the time. 1:31:01.280 --> 1:31:05.559 But my senior year, my parents actually got my brother 1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:11.200 and I season tickets for just for my senior year 1:31:11.240 --> 1:31:13.080 and his eighth grade year. And if you know brother, 1:31:13.400 --> 1:31:16.479 the brother connection, obviously you bicker and you fight each 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:19.000 other for so long. And it was actually funny because 1:31:19.040 --> 1:31:21.120 in my last year before I left for college and 1:31:21.240 --> 1:31:23.880 his first year going into high school. You know, it 1:31:23.960 --> 1:31:25.920 was that opportunity to go to the Bengals games where 1:31:25.920 --> 1:31:29.080 I feel like we really developed that best friendship and 1:31:29.200 --> 1:31:31.280 then it carries on today. You know, that's my right 1:31:31.360 --> 1:31:33.639 hand man. So I owe a lot to this team 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:36.720 just from being a fan first and foremost. My brother 1:31:36.760 --> 1:31:38.960 and I would always talk about it were I was 1:31:39.000 --> 1:31:41.400 able to the first game point out to Zach the 1:31:41.520 --> 1:31:44.479 exact spot where I was sitting, you know, almost a 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:47.400 decade ago. So it's it's really cool to be back 1:31:47.520 --> 1:31:50.280 on the field contributing to a team. Maybe not on 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:52.760 the field, but from a week to week perspective, just 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:54.640 giving it at my all and trying to find a 1:31:54.680 --> 1:31:55.040 way to win. 1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:57.759 We're visiting with Sean Clifford. One of the most memorable 1:31:57.840 --> 1:31:59.880 moments in the Bengal Super Bowl run in twenty twenty 1:32:00.080 --> 1:32:02.439 one was the playoff game in Tennessee where Joe Burrow 1:32:02.479 --> 1:32:04.880 got sacked nine times and the Bengals still won the game. 1:32:05.240 --> 1:32:07.439 You did that in the state championship game for Saint 1:32:07.640 --> 1:32:11.600 X back in twenty sixteen. Describe that season because it 1:32:11.800 --> 1:32:14.040 was not a smooth ride for the Bombers. 1:32:14.200 --> 1:32:15.880 Yeah, very similar to this year. I think, you know, 1:32:16.000 --> 1:32:18.320 the at least the opportunity. You know, we went five 1:32:18.400 --> 1:32:21.519 and five in the regular season. Steve Speck actually wrote 1:32:21.520 --> 1:32:24.519 a book about that season. But when five and five, 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:27.880 I had injuries. We had injuries going into the season. 1:32:27.920 --> 1:32:30.160 I think that we had five starters out by the 1:32:30.320 --> 1:32:32.400 first week. So, you know, it was a lot of 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:35.720 ups and downs, but put together some good wins in 1:32:35.760 --> 1:32:37.960 the back end, made it into the playoffs, is a 1:32:38.040 --> 1:32:40.920 very late seed, and then rode that momentum all the 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:43.280 way to the state championship, and I think that you know, 1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:46.640 you in those situations, you know, I compare it, you 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:48.000 can compare it in every level. 1:32:48.400 --> 1:32:50.080 You know, you just got to find a way to 1:32:50.120 --> 1:32:51.000 string together wins. 1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:52.800 But then once you get to the big dance and 1:32:52.880 --> 1:32:56.160 it's one game at a time, anything can happen. So 1:32:56.200 --> 1:32:58.519 I think that that's always been on mindset is you know, 1:32:58.560 --> 1:33:00.559 a season's long, it's gonna be tough, and there's gonna 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:03.439 be ups and downs, but weathering that storm and being 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:05.800 able to at least get to the final that you know, 1:33:05.960 --> 1:33:09.320 that final show, then anybody can win every single week. 1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:12.840 So it's just about putting putting enough together, you know, 1:33:12.880 --> 1:33:15.439 because you're gonna face adversity, But if you can put 1:33:15.560 --> 1:33:18.040 enough together to get to that point, then you can 1:33:18.120 --> 1:33:18.880 catch a hot streak. 1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:21.800 From a state championship at Saint X, it was on 1:33:21.920 --> 1:33:24.960 to Penn State, where you spent six years. Why did 1:33:25.040 --> 1:33:26.240 you choose the Niitney Lions. 1:33:26.560 --> 1:33:28.720 It really came down to James Franklin and I hate 1:33:28.760 --> 1:33:29.280 to see him go. 1:33:29.920 --> 1:33:31.400 It was tough to see him go, for sure, And 1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:32.960 I know a lot of guys in that locker room, 1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:36.280 uh are still feeling that just because you know, James 1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:40.720 was such a great guy, a family man, somebody who 1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:45.040 really preached, you know, the same mantra similar to Saint 1:33:45.200 --> 1:33:46.880 x Men for others. You know, it was kind of 1:33:46.920 --> 1:33:49.559 the same way at Penn State, and my mom really 1:33:49.600 --> 1:33:51.600 fell in love with the idea of me going to 1:33:51.680 --> 1:33:54.200 that school. Thank god she did, because I really, you know, 1:33:54.280 --> 1:33:57.120 she she was a big proponent of going to Penn State. Uh, 1:33:57.200 --> 1:34:00.400 staying committed the whole way through, committing early and staying admitted. 1:34:00.840 --> 1:34:03.639 So I owe a lot to my parents for kind 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:06.400 of steering me in that direction. I always love. 1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:09.000 Penn State, but once I got there, it's around the people, 1:34:09.760 --> 1:34:13.200 you know, Pennsylvania. I really consider Pennsylvania and Ohio to 1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:16.840 be the two spots that I really love Midwest kid 1:34:16.920 --> 1:34:18.000 through and through, that's for sure. 1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:20.479 After a record setting career at Penn State, you were 1:34:20.479 --> 1:34:22.519 a fifth round draft pick by the Green Bay Packers. 1:34:22.560 --> 1:34:23.960 Describe your draft experience. 1:34:24.439 --> 1:34:25.519 It was a crazy one. 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:27.799 I you know, I didn't get invited to the combine, 1:34:27.920 --> 1:34:30.479 was counted out a bunch of different times, and then 1:34:30.720 --> 1:34:32.679 as I kind of told my story through the draft 1:34:32.720 --> 1:34:34.800 process the scouts and kind of worked my way up 1:34:34.880 --> 1:34:38.640 to to the GM level and the coaches level. I 1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:41.559 think that my story is all about heart and will 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:43.600 and what I can provide from a value perspective to 1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:44.040 a team. 1:34:44.640 --> 1:34:47.000 And it's it's a day to day thing. 1:34:47.080 --> 1:34:49.240 You know, you're gonna get my best every single day, 1:34:50.160 --> 1:34:53.200 doesn't matter. You know, if it's if it's a Monday 1:34:53.320 --> 1:34:55.680 or Tuesday off day, or if it's game day. You know, 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:58.400 I'm gonna give it my all because I'm I always 1:34:58.439 --> 1:35:00.519 like to think I'm an ultimate competitor. I want to 1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:03.680 win as much as the next guy, and I'll do 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:05.640 whatever it takes for my teammates to be able to 1:35:05.800 --> 1:35:06.400 get that done. 1:35:06.760 --> 1:35:08.800 I think that, you know, green Bay heard that. 1:35:09.040 --> 1:35:09.400 I know that. 1:35:09.640 --> 1:35:12.160 In the process, Cincinnati, you know, I was talking to 1:35:12.200 --> 1:35:15.839 brad Our quarterback coach as well, and he even reminded 1:35:15.920 --> 1:35:18.240 me that, you know, they weren't taking a quarterback in 1:35:18.280 --> 1:35:20.599 the draft, but if I did slip outside of the draft, 1:35:21.439 --> 1:35:22.720 you know, since he was gonna try to be the 1:35:22.720 --> 1:35:24.800 first call that they make to get me here. So 1:35:25.200 --> 1:35:27.360 I always appreciated them. But Green Bay, you know, took 1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:29.760 that shot in the fifth round. You know, I was 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:31.679 able to back up Jay Love for a couple of years, 1:35:31.720 --> 1:35:33.760 and I thought that the bonds that I created in 1:35:33.840 --> 1:35:35.680 that locker room, I have a lot of respect for 1:35:35.720 --> 1:35:36.560 how the Packers. 1:35:36.320 --> 1:35:38.960 Run their organization. It's just a it's a it's a 1:35:39.000 --> 1:35:39.760 well run show. 1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:43.439 And I think that it really helped me early in 1:35:43.560 --> 1:35:45.400 my career to be able to see how it's done. 1:35:46.000 --> 1:35:48.840 So that way, you know, I can bring that that 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:51.479 energy and that mindset into places like this. 1:35:52.320 --> 1:35:54.600 We're visiting with Sean Clifford. You join the Bengals in 1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:58.440 September following Joe Burrow's injury. Do all of your Cincinnati 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:01.479 friends and family members as what's Joe Burrow? 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:01.720 Like? 1:36:02.800 --> 1:36:06.240 I think it's it's both Joe's now obviously, you know, 1:36:06.439 --> 1:36:09.200 being in the in a room full of Joe's and 1:36:09.400 --> 1:36:11.680 Jake uh, you know, we have three great minds in 1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:14.719 that room that that all contribute in different ways. 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:15.120 You know. 1:36:15.240 --> 1:36:17.960 I think that Joe Burrow is somebody who has a 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:21.439 lot of experience early He's an elite, elite talent and 1:36:21.560 --> 1:36:25.400 somebody who I've I it's funny if we we lost 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:29.400 the game into Minnesota my in twenty nineteen in a 1:36:29.479 --> 1:36:31.360 in a very controversial game that I won't get into 1:36:31.479 --> 1:36:35.599 because referees in my opinion. But if we win that game, 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:38.040 in which we should have, we actually would have played 1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:41.040 Joe and the l S and the LSU Tigers in 1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:45.080 in the first week of that that playoff. So I've 1:36:45.080 --> 1:36:47.559 always seen him as a great competitor. I've seen him 1:36:47.600 --> 1:36:50.080 as somebody who you know, I have, I have a 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:54.320 lot of respect for, and so you know, he provides. 1:36:54.000 --> 1:36:55.120 So much value to that room. 1:36:55.200 --> 1:36:58.040 And then you add Joe Flacco in the mix, his 1:36:58.280 --> 1:37:00.920 experience and all the story that he can tell of 1:37:01.040 --> 1:37:03.400 different looks and different players he's played with and how 1:37:03.479 --> 1:37:04.840 to scheme certain ways. 1:37:06.040 --> 1:37:08.719 It truly is incredible to just see the full picture. 1:37:09.360 --> 1:37:10.800 And then you lay in and a get a guy 1:37:10.880 --> 1:37:12.639 like Jake who's done such a good job of backing 1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:15.519 up Joe and coming into big situations and winning games. 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:17.640 Very blessed to be a part of this room, and 1:37:18.080 --> 1:37:18.639 I think it's. 1:37:18.520 --> 1:37:21.759 Competitive, I think it's exciting, and someone that really pushes 1:37:22.880 --> 1:37:25.680 not only our room, but the players around us as 1:37:25.720 --> 1:37:27.800 well to be their best version of the selves and 1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:29.879 really elevate the competition. 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:33.559 A few wild card topics now for Bengals quarterback Sean Clifford, 1:37:33.600 --> 1:37:36.439 who is your all time frint athlete in any sport. 1:37:37.240 --> 1:37:40.400 I think Kobe's probably for me, just because of the mindset, 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:44.760 the mentality, the mama mentality of I think he was 1:37:44.800 --> 1:37:47.120 such a servant leader outside the community. I think that 1:37:47.240 --> 1:37:49.479 he did a lot as you study kind of his 1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:52.960 life and what he did with his family. I think 1:37:53.240 --> 1:37:55.400 from a business perspective, he did so much off the 1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:58.920 field that really really left a mark. From a community perspective, 1:37:58.960 --> 1:38:01.400 he was always pouring back into kids and being able 1:38:01.479 --> 1:38:03.800 to to really give back to that community. But then 1:38:03.840 --> 1:38:05.680 when you turn on the tape and you watch him 1:38:05.720 --> 1:38:07.960 in a game, he turns into a complete nutter savage, 1:38:09.200 --> 1:38:11.240 and I think that that's I think that there's time 1:38:11.280 --> 1:38:12.400 and place for all that. You know, I think that 1:38:12.479 --> 1:38:15.000 you have to be an upstanding, an up stay, and 1:38:15.040 --> 1:38:17.280 a citizen and a good man in the community, and 1:38:17.520 --> 1:38:19.920 I always try to be that, especially now being back 1:38:19.960 --> 1:38:22.280 in the community that gave me so much. But really 1:38:22.400 --> 1:38:25.000 for for a guy like that, you know, when when 1:38:25.160 --> 1:38:27.960 when it's time to play ball, I think it. You know, 1:38:28.040 --> 1:38:29.680 there is a switch that you can turn on and 1:38:29.760 --> 1:38:31.840 it's okay to to kind of get aggressive in that 1:38:31.920 --> 1:38:34.559 situation because you know, all that hard work and dedication 1:38:34.640 --> 1:38:35.200 that you put. 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:37.960 In to be able to to win and to you know, 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:41.679 have the chance to win. It's it's it's meaningful. 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:46.679 Penn State famously wears the most plain uniforms in college football, 1:38:46.800 --> 1:38:50.640 perhaps all of sports. So bland that they're cool or 1:38:50.760 --> 1:38:51.599 time for an update. 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:52.439 Oh they're cool. 1:38:52.800 --> 1:38:55.800 I'm an old school type guy anyway, so I don't 1:38:55.800 --> 1:38:58.479 think that they need any sort of update. I've always 1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:01.560 appreciated the tradition, and I think that you know, I 1:39:01.760 --> 1:39:04.800 I grew up watching I wasn't a huge NFL guy 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:07.000 until I really started fall in love with the Bengals, 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:13.799 but I always appreciated watching college ball and specifically college players, 1:39:13.840 --> 1:39:16.559 and I just always loved I followed a lot of Nordame, 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:20.720 traditional program, you know, with a lot of a lot 1:39:20.760 --> 1:39:23.559 of good guys, good community guys. And I don't think 1:39:23.600 --> 1:39:26.519 I I knew the importance of that when I was 1:39:26.600 --> 1:39:28.560 just a kid. You know, you're just watching them be 1:39:28.560 --> 1:39:32.200 busy they're on TV. But you know, I followed some 1:39:32.479 --> 1:39:36.360 some some great players just because I was just attracted 1:39:36.400 --> 1:39:38.200 to the way that they held themselves. 1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:40.720 And I think that you find that at Penn State. 1:39:40.800 --> 1:39:42.479 I think you find that in a urdame. You find 1:39:42.479 --> 1:39:43.200 it at. 1:39:43.120 --> 1:39:46.120 Schools that are traditional. So to answer your question, long 1:39:46.160 --> 1:39:48.200 story short, Yeah, I love the uniforms. 1:39:48.680 --> 1:39:49.000 All right. 1:39:49.080 --> 1:39:51.599 Final fun fact for Sean Clifford. This one's kind of deep. 1:39:51.960 --> 1:39:56.280 If you could meet anybody in history, living or deceased, 1:39:57.040 --> 1:39:58.000 who would that person be. 1:39:58.880 --> 1:40:00.519 You know, I'm a Christian man and I think that 1:40:00.600 --> 1:40:04.160 Jesus would be somebody who I love to meet. You know, 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:07.599 I think that it's He's the ultimate messenger and he's 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:11.120 the ultimate, you know, warrior when it came to doing 1:40:11.200 --> 1:40:14.560 good in this world. And I think that the conversations 1:40:14.680 --> 1:40:17.000 that you know, I would have and will have one 1:40:17.080 --> 1:40:20.200 day in my in my opinion, will be magical and 1:40:20.760 --> 1:40:24.240 really life changing. So, you know, always trying to dive 1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:27.040 into the word and finding different ways to talk to 1:40:27.120 --> 1:40:30.799 him in different ways, but having an actual sit down conversation, 1:40:30.880 --> 1:40:32.320 maybe over at dinner, it would be really cool. 1:40:33.040 --> 1:40:35.040 Sean, appreciate your time. It's great to have you on 1:40:35.120 --> 1:40:37.280 your hometown team. Best of luck the rest of the year. 1:40:37.360 --> 1:40:37.600 Thank you. 1:40:38.200 --> 1:40:42.520 Dan Horde with Sean Clifford. For more of the those interviews, 1:40:42.760 --> 1:40:46.320 always check out the Bengals Booth podcast. Take a time 1:40:46.360 --> 1:40:48.240 out and come back, let's figure out what's making those 1:40:48.280 --> 1:40:51.479 New England Patriots tick. They are rolling nine and two 1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:54.000 on the season. Talk a little bit about that club 1:40:54.160 --> 1:40:56.280 is we roll on with Bengals Line at the Bengals 1:40:56.400 --> 1:41:02.840 Radio Network and seven hundred WLW and now on the 1:41:02.880 --> 1:41:04.640 stretch on this Monday night of Bengals Line and the 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:07.720 Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Next up for 1:41:07.760 --> 1:41:11.720 the Bengals the nine and two Patriots, winners of eight 1:41:11.880 --> 1:41:15.320 straight games under coach Mike Vrabel, and they've I was 1:41:15.400 --> 1:41:18.040 struck by a story I read over the weekend about 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:21.519 the Patriots and what Mike Vrabel has instilled in this 1:41:21.760 --> 1:41:25.080 team and how he has leaned on his team captains 1:41:25.520 --> 1:41:28.080 and sitting a tone. And last week he gave the 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:31.479 captains he said, look, were later in the season, we 1:41:31.560 --> 1:41:33.880 could lighten up the load today and go inside. What 1:41:33.960 --> 1:41:35.880 do you think And they said, no, we want full 1:41:35.960 --> 1:41:38.639 practice outdoors. And he said on Thursday for the Thursday 1:41:38.720 --> 1:41:42.240 night game short day, he said, should we go with 1:41:42.520 --> 1:41:45.639 the regular team meeting early morning and or I could 1:41:45.720 --> 1:41:47.360 let you guys off and let you clear your head. 1:41:47.400 --> 1:41:50.679 And the team captain said, no regular team meeting. Last 1:41:50.720 --> 1:41:53.160 week on their standard day off. Forty one guys showed 1:41:53.240 --> 1:41:55.559 up on the standard day off. And the whole point 1:41:55.560 --> 1:41:58.000 of the piece was they have bought into hook line 1:41:58.040 --> 1:42:01.120 and sinker and what Mike Vrabel is instilling in that team, 1:42:01.160 --> 1:42:03.680 and they're getting the results and and they're rolling right now. 1:42:03.840 --> 1:42:06.160 They are they are, they're they're probably the hottest team 1:42:06.200 --> 1:42:09.800 in the National Football League. And uh, you know, you're 1:42:09.800 --> 1:42:12.479 gonna give a lot of credit to Mike Vrabel. And 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:16.400 there's nothing like winning, yep, I mean, winning makes the 1:42:16.520 --> 1:42:19.880 labors of us all no question. Mike Rabel could say, 1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:23.920 you know, I want you to on Wednesdays, I want 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:26.680 you to put your helmet on and look through the 1:42:26.760 --> 1:42:29.280 year hole. We're going to do that every Wednesday, and 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:31.960 that's how we're going to practice. And and uh, you know, 1:42:32.040 --> 1:42:33.640 if you win it eight or nine in a row, 1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:34.960 that's that's all good. 1:42:35.479 --> 1:42:37.320 So the the. 1:42:38.800 --> 1:42:39.160 Teams. 1:42:39.560 --> 1:42:43.439 Football teams are creatures of habit, and when you establish 1:42:43.520 --> 1:42:47.439 good habits, you're gonna win football games. That's usually the case. 1:42:47.880 --> 1:42:50.320 And and that's the case for the New England Patriots. 1:42:50.320 --> 1:42:53.599 They have turned things around very very quickly. And it's 1:42:53.640 --> 1:42:55.920 always about the quarterback in the National Football league, and 1:42:55.920 --> 1:42:57.639 they get a young quarterback by the name of Drake 1:42:57.720 --> 1:43:00.599 May who's lighting it up. Man. He is playing at 1:43:00.600 --> 1:43:03.880 a very very high level. I mean Tom Brady set 1:43:03.880 --> 1:43:07.320 a high bar in New England. I mean every quarterback 1:43:07.439 --> 1:43:09.280 is always going to be like, oh jeez, in the 1:43:09.360 --> 1:43:11.519 shadow of Tom Brady, how do I crawl out of 1:43:11.600 --> 1:43:15.960 that shadow? Drake May seems to be extremely poised. I 1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:19.840 mean nothing, nothing seems to rattle this kid. He seems very, 1:43:20.000 --> 1:43:25.479 very unflappable. So it's the Patriots have a lot of 1:43:25.600 --> 1:43:28.880 things really going for him. And when you when you 1:43:28.960 --> 1:43:32.639 look at their roster, the starting lineups offensively and defense, 1:43:32.960 --> 1:43:34.920 there's not a whole lot of names you say, oh 1:43:35.000 --> 1:43:37.320 my god, this is a three time Pro bowler. You 1:43:37.400 --> 1:43:39.719 know this guy they got. I mean, it's it's guys, 1:43:39.880 --> 1:43:42.720 you know. But they're they're good football players, and they're 1:43:42.760 --> 1:43:47.800 playing collectively, you know, Synergy one plus one equals three. 1:43:48.240 --> 1:43:50.040 They're playing at such a high level. And I think 1:43:50.080 --> 1:43:54.719 part of it is the you know, the intangible of yeah, Rabel, 1:43:55.240 --> 1:43:56.880 we know we got the best coach in the league. 1:43:57.080 --> 1:43:59.880 We know we're better than every other team in the NFL, 1:43:59.880 --> 1:44:02.120 and that regard. So let's go win games. 1:44:02.760 --> 1:44:08.120 Drake May is completing seventy one point nine. I mean 1:44:08.760 --> 1:44:11.320 there was a time where I mean sixty one was like, 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:13.320 well you got to throw it complete at least sixty 1:44:13.360 --> 1:44:15.599 percent in the league in a time. And now he's 1:44:15.640 --> 1:44:18.120 at seventy one point too. That that's like a video 1:44:18.240 --> 1:44:18.800 game number. 1:44:18.960 --> 1:44:19.200 It is. 1:44:19.439 --> 1:44:22.280 I mean that that's that's like Tom Brady. It's like 1:44:22.320 --> 1:44:23.160 a Brady number. 1:44:24.160 --> 1:44:24.760 He is. 1:44:25.080 --> 1:44:26.320 He is playing it up in. 1:44:26.400 --> 1:44:29.200 Twenty only five interceptions as well. 1:44:29.360 --> 1:44:33.800 Yeah, that ratio is outstanding. I mean, this kid's not 1:44:33.880 --> 1:44:36.880 playing like your typical rookie. There's no no question about it. 1:44:36.960 --> 1:44:40.439 And uh, you know he's he's definitely the leader of 1:44:40.479 --> 1:44:42.560 the pack in the Boston fans. I grew up in 1:44:42.600 --> 1:44:47.360 the Boston area, fifteen miles northeast of Boston, Massachusets, and 1:44:47.400 --> 1:44:51.040 I know how those fans can be. So Drake May 1:44:51.439 --> 1:44:53.519 is the toast of the town right now. But that 1:44:53.640 --> 1:44:57.880 can change quickly, yes, But but he is, he's doing things. 1:44:58.040 --> 1:44:59.639 He's doing everything the right way. 1:45:00.000 --> 1:45:01.479 All right, we come back final segment. 1:45:01.600 --> 1:45:03.599 I must ask you to go back in the time 1:45:03.680 --> 1:45:07.439 machine to this date nineteen seventy five for Monday Night football. 1:45:07.800 --> 1:45:10.320 The Bengals and the Bills. As we wrap things up 1:45:10.439 --> 1:45:14.240 next Bengals on and the Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW. 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:17.760 All right, final segment of the night. 1:45:17.840 --> 1:45:20.760 Let's put a caper on all this with a trip 1:45:20.880 --> 1:45:22.840 back in time. Dave I noticed it was this date, 1:45:23.280 --> 1:45:27.640 nineteen seventy five, Riverfront Stadium, Monday Night football was in 1:45:27.760 --> 1:45:30.439 town for the first time. That's Howard and Down and 1:45:30.560 --> 1:45:34.479 host Sow. It was Bengals, it was Bills. Kenny throws 1:45:34.600 --> 1:45:38.800 for four hundred and forty seven yards. OJ ran for 1:45:39.040 --> 1:45:42.360 one ninety seven for the Bills. You guys win thirty 1:45:42.479 --> 1:45:44.960 three twenty four to move to eight and one on 1:45:45.040 --> 1:45:46.880 the season. What a night that must have been. 1:45:47.120 --> 1:45:49.280 It was incredible and we end up with a twelve 1:45:49.320 --> 1:45:52.320 and four record. We went to eight and one, and 1:45:52.439 --> 1:45:56.360 that's after that particular game, and it was Monday night 1:45:56.479 --> 1:46:01.759 football in Cincinnati and Dandy Don and the Gifford Frank 1:46:01.840 --> 1:46:06.679 Gifford and Howard co sal it was it was amazing. 1:46:07.600 --> 1:46:11.640 The the energy in that stadium was was nuts. And 1:46:11.840 --> 1:46:15.240 literally the best running back in the National Football League 1:46:15.240 --> 1:46:17.679 O Jay Simpson and in my mind, the best national 1:46:18.160 --> 1:46:21.040 quarterback in the National Football League Kenny Anderson had a 1:46:21.160 --> 1:46:23.680 duel at the OK Corral. Man, I mean they had 1:46:23.720 --> 1:46:27.080 a shootout in thirty three, twenty four. I mean that 1:46:27.280 --> 1:46:29.920 was there was a lot of offense, and I'm sure, 1:46:30.000 --> 1:46:32.479 I'm sure the network was excited as hell to have 1:46:32.600 --> 1:46:34.800 that kind of a game because that was the hype. 1:46:35.000 --> 1:46:38.519 You know, you got, you got explosive offensive football teams 1:46:38.880 --> 1:46:42.360 coming coming in to do do battle and matchup and 1:46:43.920 --> 1:46:46.360 and and they did. It lived up to its billing. 1:46:46.400 --> 1:46:48.400 A lot of times you get the hype and the 1:46:48.439 --> 1:46:50.320 game doesn't live up to the billing. You know, Uh, 1:46:50.720 --> 1:46:52.240 this one, this one more than. 1:46:52.120 --> 1:46:55.760 Did Isaac Curtis seven catches for one hundred and thirty 1:46:55.880 --> 1:46:58.720 nine yards, Chip Meyers seven catches for one hundred and 1:46:58.760 --> 1:47:03.160 eight yards. Arlie Joiner five catches for ninety yards. Holy cow, 1:47:03.200 --> 1:47:03.800 what a trio. 1:47:04.080 --> 1:47:06.599 Yeah, I mean he got two over one hundred yards 1:47:06.760 --> 1:47:10.760 and one at ninety that and that's you know, that's 1:47:10.840 --> 1:47:14.639 obviously the most of the four forty seven that Kenny 1:47:14.680 --> 1:47:18.600 Anderson uh threw four. But I mean Chip Myers was 1:47:18.800 --> 1:47:23.200 a big, tall, tough He was a cowboy, went to 1:47:23.439 --> 1:47:27.160 University Wyoming. I mean he literally he literally bulldog Steers 1:47:27.200 --> 1:47:29.800 and stuff like that, you know, I mean, he was 1:47:29.960 --> 1:47:32.000 he was something else. He ended up coaching in the 1:47:32.080 --> 1:47:34.960 National Football League as well, and uh and had a 1:47:35.200 --> 1:47:37.400 had a great career in that and that side of it. 1:47:38.160 --> 1:47:41.720 Charlie Joiner was the thing I remember about Charlie. He 1:47:41.800 --> 1:47:47.439 made this sound when he was running sprints routes. Sounded 1:47:47.479 --> 1:47:51.840 like a human typewriter. It's like, Oh, there he is, 1:47:51.960 --> 1:47:53.880 he's he's breaking free. There's Charlie. 1:47:54.880 --> 1:47:55.080 It was. 1:47:55.240 --> 1:47:57.960 It was great, but it and he was. He wasn't 1:47:58.000 --> 1:48:00.760 the biggest guy. I don't think. I don't think he 1:48:00.840 --> 1:48:02.920 was six feet tall. If he was, he was barely 1:48:03.000 --> 1:48:06.000 six feet tall. But man, he played large and he 1:48:06.200 --> 1:48:08.559 was a great teammate. And that's the thing. I mean, 1:48:09.160 --> 1:48:12.360 when you have success and you win games, it's easy, 1:48:12.520 --> 1:48:14.560 you know, in hindsight, it's like they had to have 1:48:14.720 --> 1:48:17.519 good attitudes. Yeah, and everybody did. You know, Paul Brown 1:48:17.600 --> 1:48:21.320 did a great job of, you know, picking talent from 1:48:21.400 --> 1:48:23.800 the collegiate level that was going to mesh in the 1:48:23.880 --> 1:48:26.920 National Football League. And he knew what he wanted. He knew, 1:48:27.400 --> 1:48:30.200 you know, he had Isaac Curtis, the speed guy, and 1:48:30.280 --> 1:48:32.400 then the other two were guys that could work off 1:48:32.439 --> 1:48:35.240 the speed of Isaac Curtis, very very effectively. 1:48:35.760 --> 1:48:37.200 Well, that was a fun way to end it. Well, 1:48:37.320 --> 1:48:39.559 we're fun results yesterday, but that was a fun way 1:48:39.600 --> 1:48:45.200 to end it tonight. Right here this date, nineteen seventy five, man, second. 1:48:45.040 --> 1:48:46.920 Year in the league at the young pup. 1:48:47.160 --> 1:48:51.840 Yes, no doubt about that. We'll take well, we're done. Well, 1:48:51.840 --> 1:48:53.160 I was gonna say, we'll take a time out. Well, 1:48:53.160 --> 1:48:54.479 we'll take our time out for good. 1:48:54.560 --> 1:48:57.080 Well, we'll go there next week and talk about Bengals 1:48:57.200 --> 1:48:59.599 and Patriots there for hanging out with us tonight. It's 1:48:59.640 --> 1:49:01.760 been Ben Goles one in the Bengals radio network in 1:49:01.880 --> 1:49:03.200 seven hundred WLW. 1:49:04.320 --> 1:49:07.639 This was Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Pay 1:49:07.760 --> 1:49:10.519 Core pay Corp Is proud to be the official HR 1:49:10.680 --> 1:49:13.120 software provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 1:49:13.400 --> 1:49:15.280 Ulti Viper Alta Viper. 1:49:15.240 --> 1:49:18.959 The official Wi Fi and Internet provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 1:49:19.160 --> 1:49:23.759 This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the fest 1:49:23.960 --> 1:49:25.040 Bengals coverage.