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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it going on this Monday night.

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Speaker 2: If it's Monday, it's Bengals Line. And that's three rock

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Speaker 2: solid hours of conversation coming your way. Thanks for making

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Speaker 2: talking about yesterday's thirty four twelve lost to the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: looking ahead of those nine and two red hot New

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Speaker 2: England Patriots on Sunday, Lance McAllister, Dave Lapham and Dave.

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Speaker 2: The day began with coming off the buy the hopes

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Speaker 2: as it plays out, it produces a lot of frustration

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Speaker 2: and a lot of questions now about where this team

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Speaker 3: Well, you're exactly right, Lance, comed up pretty darn well there.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that the big deal is, like

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, a bunch of questions, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: what's the future of this football team, not just for

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Speaker 3: for next year, the year after, you know, the short

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Speaker 3: term future of the football team. What about the coaches,

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Speaker 3: Who's safe, who's not a lot of questions that need

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Speaker 2: Boy, And what was really I think disappointing was going

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Speaker 2: it's a fair question to say that was the performance

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Speaker 3: Agreed, you know, I think you make another valid point there.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Everybody watches tape. The players watch tape, the coaches watch tape,

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Speaker 3: everybody is looking at state tape and scourring the tape

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Speaker 3: and trying to figure out what is wrong. Where where

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Speaker 3: So you have all that time to work on it.

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Speaker 3: You feel pretty good about what you're doing. You feel

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Speaker 2: It's just one of those that classic Murphy's law. It's like,

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Speaker 2: On a day where the defense played better, certainly there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and in the National Football League, when that dynamic

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Speaker 3: Tough today coming to Pittsburgh. You knew you were going

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Speaker 4: Turner re battle. That's the number one starting point two

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Speaker 3: Is for that. Yeah, the final score really doesn't dictate

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Speaker 4: That's there's you can't run from that. These these losses

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Speaker 4: But in this profession, you got no choice or professionals,

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Speaker 3: Coach, appreciate your time, as always New York Class Act

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Speaker 2: After the game, we are up and running on this

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Speaker 2: Monday night, still ahead. We'll hear from Joe Flacco, Gino Stone,

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Speaker 5: But the team I thought they did a lot of

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Speaker 5: Well, that looked like they got you know, it looked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to figure that it's, you know, some

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure he's probably taken advantage of some of that.

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Speaker 2: And David, the reality is Joe Flacco's forty years old.

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Speaker 2: He's been really good on a magical ride. Yeah, but again,

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Speaker 3: He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but callister. It's Bengals Line

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Speaker 7: Continue on this Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Thanks for hanging out with us as

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Speaker 2: Network in seven hundred WLW lance butcallister Dave Lapham thirty

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Speaker 2: four to twelve losers to the Steelers yesterday. And the

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Speaker 2: other story coming out of that is Jamar Chase. Jamar

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Speaker 2: And anybody who knows Jalen Ramsey and this is not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's the big thing is you know, Jamar.

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Speaker 3: With Jamar Chase out for a game, he could be

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Speaker 2: You just can't engage. You can't let him get under

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Speaker 2: that's not that's what. That's never what Jamar Chase has

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Speaker 2: been about. He's always been about team. That's the disappointing thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is a team player. You're right about that, Lance,

438
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Speaker 2: I mean, and it's not lip service, you know. I mean,

439
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Speaker 2: he's sincere. He's sincere about it. Nobody probably feels worse

440
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Speaker 2: about it than than Jamar Chase. You know, you know

441
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Speaker 2: some guys, uh, you know, I asked, he deserved it.

442
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Speaker 2: I'm glad I did it. That's not Jamar. Jamar is

443
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Speaker 2: not that type of types of an individual because the

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Speaker 2: like like just said, the team's the one that's paying

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Speaker 2: the consequences. Let's get reaction immediately after the game to

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Speaker 2: what transpired. Here's Jamar meeting with the media. What happened

447
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Speaker 2: to jail.

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Speaker 10: Exchanging words? You were saying that you him him, I

449
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Speaker 10: ain't never to I ain't never opened my mouth to

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Speaker 10: that guy.

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Speaker 5: What do you what?

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Speaker 11: What do you think prouted the reaction from.

453
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Speaker 10: Well, you don't like some of the words I told him.

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Speaker 10: He's been going back and forth the whole time, so

455
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Speaker 10: I'm sure some some got under the skin.

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Speaker 3: So it was building whole game.

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Speaker 5: It just wasn't on that drive.

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Speaker 10: The first time we had a altercation and then it

459
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Speaker 10: was a second time.

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Speaker 6: Except the first time in your career anybody's.

461
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Speaker 5: Ever hunched you.

462
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Speaker 2: A game.

463
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Speaker 3: You seen me get punk.

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Speaker 5: We'll thank you for a punch.

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Speaker 3: M hm j J.

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Speaker 4: Just so clear you did not spin on him.

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Speaker 10: A whole ones you got any saying, I ain't spit

468
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Speaker 10: on nobody?

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Speaker 4: Okay, how how frustrating getting you walk about the game.

470
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Speaker 4: How frustrating is the loss? Giving what y'all wanted?

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Speaker 2: What y'a wanna do in the morse come.

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Speaker 3: Out in wi was it?

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Speaker 10: It's hard knowing how hard we work for practice and

474
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Speaker 10: coming here in here and not executing tour best ability.

475
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Speaker 10: Gotta I gotta do better as a team.

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Speaker 6: When you double down every snap basically you wor.

477
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Speaker 10: Nah not every snap? First series is like cloud with

478
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Speaker 10: like a two man show. Second series the first thirty

479
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Speaker 10: downalds when I got double.

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Speaker 9: Did they did they change it up from last month?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How did they?

483
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Speaker 8: How did they change? Uh?

484
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Speaker 3: A lot more?

485
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Speaker 10: Too high cloud myself the whole time, try to look

486
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Speaker 10: make it look like too man. And then when they

487
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Speaker 10: did give me one on one safety just cheated.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think it was so hard to get

489
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Speaker 3: into a rhythm tonight. That's an offensive unit.

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Speaker 6: Good question, man, it's a lot going on.

491
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Speaker 10: We had a good was running the ball a lot too,

492
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Speaker 10: tryna get 'em out of the too high so you know,

493
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Speaker 10: we was tryn to execute that, but when it was

494
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Speaker 10: time for us to execute and pass the ball, we

495
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Speaker 10: wouldn't getting our best looks.

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Speaker 3: Did you feel, given the fact that you guys were

497
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Speaker 3: close at half time, that this game on the road

498
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Speaker 3: was there for the taking?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 10: It was there, It was there, It was there by

501
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Speaker 10: half time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a playoff math gets hard. Now what motivates you

503
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Speaker 6: from here on there?

504
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Speaker 10: Just gotta keep competing, Man, can't forget how I got here.

505
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Speaker 10: I gotta keep competing, stay positive, and just keep working.

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Speaker 9: Do you feel like there was a missed opportunity to

507
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Speaker 9: to make things tight in the AFC North?

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Speaker 5: You could say that probably.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Where where do y'all going from here?

510
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Speaker 11: Now?

511
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Speaker 4: How tid it was?

512
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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 3: What's what's the main objective? Now? Three and seven?

515
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Speaker 6: With the games that Jill got left.

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Speaker 10: It just won the next game and you know we

517
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Speaker 10: gotta we gotta win in the in the.

518
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Speaker 3: You know where Sam Stone was talking about how there's

519
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Speaker 3: no quit in the defense, no quit on the team.

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Speaker 3: Why do you feel that same way? I assume we do.

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Speaker 10: Uh yeah, I mean look at it from the past

522
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Speaker 10: couple of games that you know we we shouldn't have

523
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Speaker 10: won or we have one and just see see how

524
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Speaker 10: the guys play. Everybody's playing today, fullies until the last

525
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Speaker 10: listen to the last time on the clock, go.

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Speaker 2: Out Jabar Chase immediately after the game yesterday, We've got

527
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Speaker 2: more to get to. We'll talk about the defense here

528
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Speaker 2: from Geno Stone and more as we continue on with

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Speaker 2: Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network, it's seven hundred

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Speaker 2: WLW Welcome back to the Bengals Line. And there's plenty

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Speaker 2: I know the Bengals Radio Network. It's seven hundred WL

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Speaker 2: Lances hanging out with Dap Lap.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Sir Lanson. The Kettering health feature, it's always about

534
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Speaker 3: the injury report the Bengals. They get nicked up, they

535
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Speaker 3: suffered a couple of injuries. They had guys that couldn't

536
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Speaker 3: play in the football game because of injury. That it's

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Speaker 3: not a long term situation. I don't think for anybody

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Speaker 3: on the football team. Uh So that that part of

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Speaker 3: it even though there are three and seven football team.

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Speaker 3: It's not necessarily related to injury. It's related to, uh,

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Speaker 3: playing better, I mean a better performance on a week

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Speaker 3: two week basis, being more consistent. So we'll see how

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Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's get into the defensive side of things.

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Speaker 2: We've heard from Zach Taylor, heard from Joe Flacco and

548
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Speaker 2: also Jamar Chase. Let's talk defense. Here's Geno Stone after

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: You know, did you guys think that was a better

551
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Speaker 3: effort by the defense as a whole today? I mean, yeah,

552
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Speaker 3: for sure, definitely.

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Speaker 12: I mean everyone said the back on said, definitely a

554
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Speaker 12: thing we work on for we've been we've been saying

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Speaker 12: we could work on. By the end of the day,

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Speaker 12: I think we held it down in the rezone today

557
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Speaker 12: when we had the opportunities on there, Captain Tobel, So

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Speaker 12: I think we did a better job today doing that.

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Speaker 3: Did you think the chunk plays where really would hurt

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Speaker 3: you overall at.

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Speaker 12: A certain point, Yeah, And then it comes down to,

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Speaker 12: you know, certain situations of you know, people are ill

563
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Speaker 12: spot and that's that's what it came down to. But

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Speaker 12: I think overall I played we played better. I would

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Speaker 12: say that we played better. I mean, definitely got work

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Speaker 12: on a tackles though my self included, but we definitely

567
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Speaker 12: play better.

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Speaker 6: Can you describe trying to tackle Washington? I mean a

569
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Speaker 6: three hundred pound tight end that gets ahead of steam

570
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Speaker 6: with that stiff arm. It seems like a difficult task.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: No, I mean my my first one, I tried to

573
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Speaker 12: get him out of bounce. I thought I was gonna

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Speaker 12: get my bounce on the heel on the tracks.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 12: The next one got knocked. If I'm down and gone down,

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's really that end of the day. It's

578
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Speaker 12: got to get him down. But the first one, I

579
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Speaker 12: think that's gotta I mean, I's gotta do better.

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Speaker 6: Rest all, this feels like on third and long they

581
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Speaker 6: threw short a lot, counting on yards after the catch,

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Speaker 6: and unfortunately it worked too many times.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean in the second and second half. We

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Speaker 12: made an adjustment after the first half, but you know,

585
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Speaker 12: we we had them an opportunity to second half, so

586
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Speaker 12: really didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: And then the one, the one we did. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: the same call we were in before.

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Speaker 12: So you know, at the end of the day, we

590
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Speaker 12: just gotta, you know, execute the call and everyone got

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Speaker 12: a rally to the ball.

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Speaker 6: They scored twenty points to offense. What were the positives

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Speaker 6: from your view for the defense?

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Speaker 12: I feel like when we stopped to run better. Uh

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Speaker 12: it wasn't many big drum plays. They had a few,

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Speaker 12: I'll say that, but uh, it wasn't like nothing like

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Speaker 12: last two weeks.

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Speaker 3: I said that for sure.

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Speaker 12: I think it was we took a positive step, and uh,

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Speaker 12: I felt we gotta get get better. We still got

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Speaker 12: a lot of more games left, and uh, there's no

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Speaker 12: quickn this team.

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Speaker 3: So I know we're we're better right now.

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Speaker 6: It takes to keep going, you see, to keep drive

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Speaker 6: was the first drive the second half proved Office out.

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Speaker 9: There instead of Rogers and they don't get him.

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Speaker 6: On the field.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean I just feel like I'm

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Speaker 12: I I mean think we we we adjusted after the

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Speaker 12: first the first the first drive of the whole game.

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Speaker 12: I felt we had to just adjusted after that. But

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Speaker 12: you know, we know when Mason came in, there's gonna

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Speaker 12: be a different type of style. They were gonna limit

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Speaker 12: limit it a little more, uh with him in there,

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Speaker 12: and try not to put too much on his plate.

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Speaker 12: But you know, I feel like we, like we said, uh,

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Speaker 12: we only have limited action in the second half, so

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Speaker 12: you know at the end of the day when when

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Speaker 12: when we get down there, then too we.

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Speaker 3: Gotta stop him. So we came out of score big

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Speaker 3: understand not only.

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Speaker 12: That, Yeah, definitely, I mean we knew it was a stake.

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Speaker 12: We knew, uh, what we have in front of us.

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Speaker 12: So you know, at the end of the day, like

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Speaker 12: I said, we gotta getett ready to get better. And uh,

626
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Speaker 12: there's no Quinn's team. You know, last year we ran

627
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Speaker 12: off with a lot of wins, so she's gotta keep

628
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Speaker 12: the same mindset and get ready to do it again.

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Speaker 13: I'm frustrated gainst the mistackles just kind of continues.

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Speaker 5: To be the common theme here every week.

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Speaker 6: It just seems like just guys can't kind of get

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Speaker 6: that corrected at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a thing.

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Speaker 12: By the end of the day, I feel like, I mean,

635
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Speaker 12: it's really no bit scores off it. I mean except

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Speaker 12: the one D and that's me. That's that's the one

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Speaker 12: thing I'll say, but like the miss tackles are all

638
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Speaker 12: one on one situations.

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Speaker 3: It's not like where people are.

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Speaker 12: You know, everyone's rolling to the ball and there, and

641
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Speaker 12: that's that's how it should be. It's how defense would

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00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 12: be played. Should be one on one tackles. But when

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Speaker 12: this one on one tackles, gotta make your plays. I'll

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Speaker 12: say that for sure.

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Speaker 5: Seems like steel little football.

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Speaker 3: You know what it's all in, But you grew up

647
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Speaker 3: watching it.

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Speaker 5: If they get, if they need it, they get, if they.

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Speaker 3: Start getting there and they get and it seems like.

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Speaker 12: They always out tackle when I was yeah, I mean

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Speaker 12: I feel like I mean I being in THEFS North

652
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Speaker 12: for a while, kind of all these games when you

653
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Speaker 12: come to Pittsburgh kind of play out the same way.

654
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Speaker 12: They're gonna rely on their defense and let their offense

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Speaker 12: run the ball and keep it serveve and is kind

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Speaker 12: of how it is. And it's been my best as

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Speaker 12: I growing up. You know, so we knew what type

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Speaker 12: of game was gonna be coming in and he's an

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Speaker 12: execute the way we.

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Speaker 6: Had to do.

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Speaker 2: Geno Stone after the game and Dave, we talked defense

662
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Speaker 2: was was better, not good enough? But one thing that

663
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Speaker 2: really jumps out in tracking the game, the third downs

664
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Speaker 2: allowed and some of the killers. They allow a third

665
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Speaker 2: and eleven conversion, a third and seventeen conversion, another third

666
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Speaker 2: and eleven, there was a first and twenty. There's a

667
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Speaker 2: twenty three yard gain on a on a first down. Earlier,

668
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Speaker 2: there were just those backbreaking moments where you're so close

669
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Speaker 2: to getting off the field and giving your offense to football,

670
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Speaker 2: and they would they would break down at those moments.

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Speaker 2: And it's just kind of been the pattern this season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has. And you know, if Aaron Rodgers, you know,

673
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Speaker 3: makes a big conversion, you think, oh, you know, Aaron Rodgers,

674
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Speaker 3: He's done that to a lot of people. But Mason Rudolph,

675
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Speaker 3: now he's making a big third and seventeen conversions, and

676
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: it's like, whoa, that's a horse of a different color.

677
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph comes in the football game and goes twelve

678
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Speaker 3: or sixteen, one hundred and twenty seven yards touchdown pass

679
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Speaker 3: quarterback Radio one eighteen point five. So yeah, I mean,

680
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Speaker 3: the defense, I agree. In the locker room, the sentiment was,

681
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Speaker 3: you know, the defense really played well enough to potentially

682
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Speaker 3: win this football game. Offensively, just didn't get it done

683
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Speaker 3: at all. You know, we just couldn't take advantage of

684
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Speaker 3: opportunities that were presented to us. And then you turn

685
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Speaker 3: it over twice. You know, Pittsburgh doesn't turn it over.

686
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: Bengals turn it over twice. You go minus two on

687
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Speaker 3: the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a recipe for disaster.

688
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Speaker 3: And it's tough to win a football game when you're

689
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Speaker 3: putting yourself in that type of an environment.

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Speaker 2: Boy, with seven games left, and part of the conversation

691
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Speaker 2: will be as it becomes more and more difficult to

692
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Speaker 2: make the math work to making the playoffs. Part of

693
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Speaker 2: it when you get late in the season is finding

694
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Speaker 2: out about players even more so in opportunities. And I

695
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Speaker 2: wonder as much as Gino Stone has continued to have

696
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Speaker 2: a tough time struggle tackling, I wonder if it might

697
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Speaker 2: open the door for Tyson Anderson to get some more

698
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Speaker 2: snaps or PJ Jewles to get some more snaps. It

699
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Speaker 2: just feels like something has to happen from a tackling standpoint,

700
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Speaker 2: and Geno unfortunately has been almost like the poster problem

701
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Speaker 2: for the tackling at times for this team.

702
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Speaker 3: It really has and he's earned it and he deserves it.

703
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Speaker 3: I mean, God, it's brutal. It's like he doesn't want

704
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Speaker 3: to use his arms and hands and wrap people up

705
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Speaker 3: and tackle people and take them to the ground. I mean,

706
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Speaker 3: the Bengals need to do the routine tackling drill for

707
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Speaker 3: like a half an hour, you know, and get your

708
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Speaker 3: head across the bow, wrap up with the arms and

709
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Speaker 3: take them to the ground. Paul Brown had our quarterbacks

710
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Speaker 3: doing routine tackling drills back in the day because if

711
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Speaker 3: they turn the football over and they may be the

712
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Speaker 3: one that has to make the tackle on the interceptor.

713
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Speaker 3: So you're right, if things continue this way, and maybe

714
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Speaker 3: it's time. You know, it's been bad now for ten games,

715
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Speaker 3: so you know, maybe it's time to take a look,

716
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Speaker 3: see at the others and give him an opportunity. And

717
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, once they get in the lineup, they may

718
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Speaker 3: never come out.

719
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Speaker 2: Stick around more to get too. As we hit down

720
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Speaker 2: the stretch. In our first of three hours today, we'll

721
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Speaker 2: talk about the day that Chase Brown turned in yesterday

722
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Speaker 2: and more. He's Dave Lapham, I'm alliance McAllister. The show

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Speaker 2: is Bengals on. We do it on the Bengals Radio

724
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Speaker 2: Network and seven hundred WLW down the stretch. We go

725
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Speaker 2: about to put our first of three hours in the

726
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Speaker 2: books today Bengals one of the Bengals Radio Network and

727
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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLTW Lance McAllister Dave Lapham. Chase Brown a

728
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Speaker 2: productive day, fourth straight week with over one hundred total

729
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Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage. He carried it eighteen times for ninety

730
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Speaker 2: nine yards. He caught six passes for twenty eight yards.

731
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Speaker 2: And Dabu, you alluded to the running game early and

732
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Speaker 2: what the the big picture of eighteen carries ninety nine

733
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Speaker 2: yards is impressive. The frustrating thing was kind of the

734
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Speaker 2: staggered stop and start to the run game because Chase

735
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Speaker 2: Brown had a fifteen yard gain. He later had a

736
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Speaker 2: thirty five yard gain, but the other sixteen carries they

737
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Speaker 2: didn't do a whole lot with the run game. And

738
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Speaker 2: that's part of the kind of the roller coaster of

739
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Speaker 2: this thing. It'll be fun at moments and then it'll

740
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Speaker 2: like come to a jarring, halted moments.

741
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Chase Brown fifty yards of his ninety

742
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Speaker 3: nine on two of his eighteen carries, So it was

743
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: feast or famine. Yep. You know, they either gashed him

744
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Speaker 3: and hurt him. Badly or you know, went away with

745
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Speaker 3: without a whimper. And that's the thing. I think consistency,

746
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: or lack thereof, is the biggest problem this football team

747
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: is having. And that's not a shock when you consider

748
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Speaker 3: that their overall record is is three and seven. It's

749
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Speaker 3: just you know, some some series they go out there

750
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Speaker 3: and wow, jeez, it looks pretty good. Thet they got

751
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: a pretty good idea of what's happening here. They they're

752
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: they're they got a nice, nice approach. They're attacking well,

753
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Speaker 3: playing very physical, playing very aggressively, and then you know

754
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: it'll be like, what the hell is going on? This

755
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: football team looks awful? Man, it looks like they haven't

756
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Speaker 3: even practiced all week. It looks like that you know,

757
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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers or whoever the opponent is is just

758
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Speaker 3: totally befuddling them. You know, they're doing things that they

759
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: didn't even anticipate and prepare themselves for. So that's the

760
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: thing is becoming. I think part of being a professional

761
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Speaker 3: is doing your job consistently. Your supervisor knowing day in

762
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Speaker 3: and day out, you're gonna show up to work, you're

763
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Speaker 3: gonna punch in, you're gonna work your ass off and

764
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Speaker 3: you're gonna punch out and go home, rest up, and

765
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Speaker 3: do it again the next day. And and that's the

766
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Speaker 3: mindset that they have to get to.

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Speaker 2: And Chase Brown is so good. We saw earlier in

768
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Speaker 2: the year when there weren't holes being created for him

769
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Speaker 2: and he was getting hit first contact was behind a

770
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Speaker 2: lot of scrimmage. But you him just a little bit

771
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Speaker 2: of daylight, and whether it's running the ball or catching

772
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Speaker 2: it out of the backfield, he can be dynamic. I mean,

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Speaker 2: four consecutive weeks over one hundred yards of total offense.

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Speaker 2: That is a big element for this offense when it

775
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Speaker 2: when it's working that.

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Speaker 3: Way, no question. I mean he is as he's an

777
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Speaker 3: explosive player. He's got a low center of gravity, you know,

778
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Speaker 3: I'd say he's five to nine max and two hundred

779
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Speaker 3: and ten two hundred and fifteen pounds, and he can

780
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Speaker 3: change direction in a heartbeat now and hit his skill set,

781
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 3: like we talked about, he can do just about anything

782
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: that you wanted to do as a football player. So

783
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Speaker 3: he's a huge weapon.

784
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Speaker 2: And wound up being their leading receiver with the six

785
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Speaker 2: catches yesterday. It had more catches than anybody else on

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Speaker 2: the team yesterday.

787
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did, and uh you know he he had

788
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Speaker 3: tied for the most targets with eight. Excuse me, I'm

789
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Speaker 3: looking at the wrong he was he was second target. Yep,

790
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Speaker 3: and he and t had eight, so you know they're

791
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Speaker 3: definitely the offense is definitely. I'm not saying it's going

792
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Speaker 3: through Chase Brown, but part of the time it is

793
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Speaker 3: going through Chase.

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Speaker 2: From yes nice got to have it go through absolutely.

795
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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's one of the books. We have much

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Speaker 2: more to get to. We'll hear from Barrett Carter andmaryus

798
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Speaker 2: Mims talk about the play of Miles Murphy yesterday and more.

799
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Speaker 2: I might have to get into some Joe Burrow conversation

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Speaker 2: before we're done as well. He's Dave Blapham. I'm Lance McAllister.

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Speaker 2: The show is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network

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00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 2: and seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back into our number

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Speaker 2: two Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio networking seven hundred

804
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Speaker 2: wled up at Lance McCalister and Dave Blapham breaking down

805
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Speaker 2: yesterday's thirty four to twelve loss to the Steelers, looking

806
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Speaker 2: ahead eventually to those new England Patriots and always time

807
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Speaker 2: for one of these dave.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Sir Lance, it's card time. We want to remind

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Speaker 3: Court Stadium, or shop online at Bengals dot com.

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Speaker 2: Let's begin the hor with some conversation on the defensive

814
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Speaker 2: side of things and the rookie linebacker. Here's Barrett Carter

815
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: after the game.

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Speaker 13: We just got to get eleven half to the ball

817
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 13: and just find a way to get the guy down

818
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 13: whoever it is. We're in great play calls, play calls

819
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 13: sending us up for success. So for us as a defense,

820
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Speaker 13: we just got to get eleven halfs to the ball

821
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 13: and just find a way to get off the field.

822
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Speaker 13: You know, it may not look pretty all the time,

823
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Speaker 13: but just we just gotta find a way.

824
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Speaker 6: Washington a big tight end, he catches that ball.

825
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Speaker 14: What was your view of that play and ours to

826
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Speaker 14: try to get him down in the space.

827
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Speaker 3: Of be size.

828
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Speaker 13: Yeah, just I just got to do better just knocking

829
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Speaker 13: the stiff arm down and just find a way to

830
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Speaker 13: get him down. So he's a good player. Obviously, he's

831
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Speaker 13: a large human being. So just just gotta knock the

832
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Speaker 13: stiff arm down and just get him, find a way

833
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 13: to get him down.

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Speaker 6: He went heavy to the screen game. What's the key

835
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Speaker 6: to playing those men?

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Speaker 13: Getting eleven half to the football? That's that's really it.

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Speaker 13: I mean it's as frank as that age. Just eleven

838
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Speaker 13: guys just doing their job and once the ball get thrown.

839
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Speaker 3: Just flying around and just trying to get 'em down.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's no quid and helping moralizing get third

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Speaker 5: and eleven third and eleven third.

842
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Speaker 3: And seventeen they keep picking up those big ones where

843
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: those artipically high percentage plays.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's frustrating. You know, those are favorable situations for

845
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 13: the defense, and you know we expect to get off

846
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Speaker 13: the field really every single time we're in that situation.

847
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Speaker 3: So it's uh, super frustrating.

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Speaker 13: So we just gotta just watch the film and find out,

849
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Speaker 13: you know, what exactly went wrong and just do better

850
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Speaker 13: with tackling, do better just swarming to the football, taking

851
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Speaker 13: better angles, and just finding a way to get the

852
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 13: runner down. So it's frustrating, but you just gotta find

853
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Speaker 13: a way to.

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Speaker 3: Not let it happened in the next few weeks. Did

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Speaker 3: you like being a key drive the game?

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Speaker 2: First?

857
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Speaker 6: First drive the second half moved alps in there.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you guys got 'em through and the water a

859
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Speaker 2: couple of times.

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Speaker 3: Don't put off the field.

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Speaker 2: You to get with keyp drive and keep and.

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Speaker 6: How the game went.

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Speaker 3: I mean that specific drive. I wouldn't say that was

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Speaker 3: the KEI a key drive.

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Speaker 13: You know, you have to treat and give every single

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Speaker 13: drive the respect that it deserves, and if you don't,

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Speaker 13: then you know you're gonna get exposed. So I wouldn't

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Speaker 13: necessarily say that was a key drive. You know, it

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Speaker 13: is a emphasis of, you know, try to win the

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Speaker 13: middle eight the last four minutes of the second half,

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Speaker 13: first four or the third. So frustrating that that happened,

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Speaker 13: but you just gotta find a way to not let

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Speaker 13: that happen again.

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Speaker 6: And those stirring lungs. It seemed like the strategy was,

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Speaker 6: you know, if they catch it short close to the

876
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, you gotta rally up and make the play,

877
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 6: which is pretty common and unfortunately there were several plays

878
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 6: where you just weren't able to execute that right.

879
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know what I mean.

880
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 6: I guess there's no real question there, but that is

881
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 6: something that the defense has to improve on, right.

882
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, we try to try to keep everything

883
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 13: in front of you and just like I said, just

884
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 13: rally and tackle 'em. So we just need to do

885
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 13: a better job of that. Frustrating that we had them in.

886
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 13: You know, so many of those situations today and weren't

887
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 13: able to get off the field. But you know those,

888
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 13: like I said, those are favorable situations for the defense.

889
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 13: If we can get 'em in a third down the

890
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 13: long every single time, then you know, that's that's playing

891
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 13: good football. So we just gotta find a way to

892
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 13: just correct those mistakes and all that that happen again.

893
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: Reach straight games without a turnover with what's the comu

894
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: to get a.

895
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 13: News, but just seeing the ball, just having a knack

896
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 13: for it, you know, whether that's punching, ripping, stabbing, picking

897
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 13: the ball off, whatever it is, just just gotta see

898
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 13: the ball better. You know, our offenses, you know, fighting

899
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 13: and scratching corn, doing everything they can for us, and

900
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 13: you know we just gotta we gotta compliment them and

901
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 13: give them some turnovers and return So we're just we're

902
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 13: building towards at you know, it's frustrating that we haven't

903
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 13: done that in the past three games, but we work

904
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 13: at it every single day so that that worm that

905
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 13: turnover warm is gonna turn. So it's gonna turn very soon.

906
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 14: You used it'd frustrating a lot.

907
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: Just how much more frustrating is it knowing where you

908
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: guys are in the division and knowing how much of

909
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: win here could have tightened.

910
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 14: Things in the race.

911
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 13: It's frustrating. Again, No, this division stay, There's still a

912
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 13: lot of ball have to be played. Still gotta play

913
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 13: Baltimore twice, Cleveland again, Cleveland again. So I mean there's

914
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 13: it's still a lot of room to for us to

915
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 13: you know, rise and you know take the spot. So it,

916
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 13: like I said, it is freshing. But they don't call

917
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 13: the season after that game. So we we got we

918
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 13: got work to do, but we'll we'll respond. For sure.

919
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 6: The Ropins did only score twenty were their positive things

920
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 6: on defense and if Selwich stood out.

921
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 13: To you, Yeah, for sure there were positives and you know,

922
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 13: twenty is still too much in in my opinion and

923
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 13: our whole defense opinion. Like that that's they shouldn't they

924
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 13: shouldn't have had twenty points. But I thought we played well,

925
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 13: just never never wavering. You know when things got hard,

926
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 13: you know we stayed together. You know, the energy was great.

927
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 13: So you know, we we we're we're building a family

928
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 13: on this defense, and we we know that we're gonna

929
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 13: fight til the last second, and you know things may

930
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 13: not be pretty, but you know we're gonna finish all

931
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 13: four quarters or however long.

932
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: It takes so a.

933
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 13: Lot of positives to take away, but know the main

934
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 13: positive that we just got to get a win, and

935
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 13: that's what we fail to do today. So I just

936
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 13: got to look forward to next We try to do that.

937
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter after the game yesterday and Dave, I almost

938
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: I feel bad at times watching Barrett Carter because it's

939
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: almost as though when when you're a rookie and there's

940
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: expectations you early in the season, he looked really aggressive

941
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: and sometimes might overrun a play what you understand now.

942
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: I almost it almost feels like he's wondering and second

943
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: guessing and tentative, and and anytime you're a linebacker and

944
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: your tentative, that play has already passed you, and it's

945
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: just it's leaving him in some really difficult situations.

946
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to be perfect, you know, and and man,

947
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: you just got to shoot your gun. You just got

948
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: to let it roll, you know. Have faith in your preparation,

949
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: have faith and what the coaches have instructed you to do,

950
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: have coached you up to do, and when you see it,

951
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: go get it. And because he is he's a very

952
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: very physically gifted kid, He's a skilled kid athletically. They

953
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: were very very excited about about having him and being

954
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: able to work with him and and be a big

955
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: part of his his professional career, his professional life. So

956
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: they've got big plans for Barrett Carter, and I think,

957
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: you know, deservedly so. But he's got to play more consistently,

958
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: just like everybody around him, Dave.

959
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: I would imagine there were times back in your day

960
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: where you're sitting in the film session and there's a

961
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: play that pops up on the screen and you know

962
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: it's coming and I block your eyes. I gotta imagine

963
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 2: today a tough day for the trio of Barrett Carter

964
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: and Geno Stone and DJ Turner on the play that

965
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: Darnell Washington at six seven two sixty four pushes one

966
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: away knocks one down, shoves another away, and rumbles down

967
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: the field. That up on the up on the screen

968
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: would would be a tough watch.

969
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, you can get embarrassed sometimes.

970
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: And Washington, who they say is pushing three hundred pounds

971
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: on the scale, uh, and he looks like it. He's

972
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: a he's a big man. I mean, I'm thinking this

973
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: guy might be a hell of a left tackle. He's

974
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: got he's got great feet. Uh, he's he's got long,

975
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: long arms. I mean he could he could literally uh

976
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: at the back end of his career, maybe end up

977
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: playing some some tackle for somebody. But that play ignited

978
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: the Steelers, you know, because they respond to physicality. That's

979
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: what Mike Tomlins all about. And that happened right in

980
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: front of the Steeler bench and they went nuts. I

981
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: mean Tomlin, the coaches, the players, the fans, and i

982
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: mean everybody started going nuts. So that was Ah, that

983
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: was a big, big momentum builder in the football game.

984
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: There's no question this linebacker group is a is a

985
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: work in progress. They they've traded Logan Wilson and that

986
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: was to get more time for Barrett Carter and more

987
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: time for Dimitrius Knight Junior yesterday or in Burke's got

988
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: more snaps than he's been getting and a little bit

989
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: fewer for Dimitrius Knight Junior. So you're you're walking the

990
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: line when you when you play young guys, you can't

991
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: get better unless you play. But when you play with

992
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: young guys, it comes with the built in growing pains

993
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: of being a young guy. And that's the line they're

994
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: walking right now.

995
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've got a few players that are right

996
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: about the same ability, you know, and now Al Golden

997
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: and the staff is trying to figure out who deserves

998
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: the most snaps, you know. I mean it's like they're

999
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: they're auditioning out there in in live action, live football games.

1000
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily where you want to be at this

1001
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: stage of the season, you know, just over the halfway

1002
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: point of the season. But reality, uh sometimes sucks. That's

1003
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: where the Bengals are.

1004
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: It's like a T shirt. There should be a teacher.

1005
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: Reality sometimes sucks. Printed up will continue. There's more to

1006
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: get to. We'll talk oh Lie, Dave Lapham, Lance but

1007
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: Catlister Bengals line on the Bengals Radio Network in seven

1008
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

1009
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 7: Bengals Line Onnday night on.

1010
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: The Bengals Radio Network at seven hundred wil up in

1011
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: the last But now let'st along with Dave Lapham. We've

1012
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: sorted through yesterday. You've heard from Zach and Joe Flacco

1013
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase and Gino Stone. A little bit later on,

1014
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: we'll get into some other elements of the game, from

1015
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy to looking ahead with the potential return of

1016
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. We've got the Patriots to get to and more.

1017
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk offensive line and let's let's hear from the

1018
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: second year offensive lineman and Marius Mims. Here's Mimes after

1019
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: the game.

1020
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 6: Marius, tough loss today against the Pittsburgh Steelers. You're matched

1021
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 6: up against t J. Watt. He didn't wreck the game.

1022
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 6: I know that's the first thing that any offensive lineman

1023
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 6: has to do. But I describe how you feel about

1024
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 6: the way the offense performed today.

1025
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 15: Like I said, man starts with me before I can.

1026
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 15: I said, I point this finger on me first, because,

1027
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 15: like I said, I gotta be I gotta be better

1028
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 15: in areas. Like I said, Mike, I said, nobody can

1029
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 15: never play a perfect game, man, But you just got

1030
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 15: you gotta ascribe to. Like I said, some things I

1031
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 15: wish I could take almost I can get back. It's

1032
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 15: a few players where I just didn't play out to

1033
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 15: my standard, whether that be a a set where I

1034
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 15: opened too fast or a late hit that I gave

1035
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 15: up Like I said, I gave up a late hit

1036
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 15: when Joe, when Joe threw the interception. And it's just

1037
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 15: like I said, it starts with me. I gotta be

1038
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 15: better in that area. And like I said, I'm not

1039
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 15: the one to critique anybody else because like I said,

1040
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 15: it starts with me first. And I don't want to,

1041
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 15: you know, speak on another like I said, another group

1042
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 15: or another like I said, another player what they can

1043
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 15: do better. But I said, I can just talk about

1044
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 15: my I just talk about me honestly, where you know,

1045
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 15: I just have to be better in certain areas. Like

1046
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 15: I said, it's two or three players that I want back.

1047
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 15: I guess tej in past pro where I feel like, uh,

1048
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 15: like you know, I didn't plug up to my standard.

1049
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 15: But like I said, we're on the road. It's hard

1050
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 15: in a hard environment. I'm going against a Hall of famer,

1051
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 15: and you know, I just if I want to be

1052
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 15: you know, like if I want to be a Hall

1053
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 15: of Famer one day, I gotta you know, you know,

1054
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 15: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta play like one. And

1055
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 15: you know, like I said, I'm not gonna play perfect,

1056
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 15: but I didn't plug up to my standard on a

1057
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 15: few plays. And I wish I could have those players back,

1058
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 15: But like I said, it's football, imperfect. Never gonna be perfect.

1059
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: Man.

1060
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 15: But like I said, you gotta scribe to be. Like

1061
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 15: I said, we're gonna we're gonna go back in watch

1062
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 15: film Monday, dissect the dissect the film and figure out

1063
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 15: what we did wrong, and you know, come back out

1064
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 15: next Sunday ready to roll, man, because like I said,

1065
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 15: we have seven more games left. It's not over with

1066
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 15: you know, it's you know, two and one of the division,

1067
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 15: and we just gotta, you know, just gotta keep going, man,

1068
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 15: because we really gotta win out men in my in

1069
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 15: my minds, like I said, making the playoffs, man, it's hard.

1070
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 15: So like I said, with any team, but for with us,

1071
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 15: we gotta our goocrit just like went out honestly. But

1072
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 15: we're gonna start with just you know, taking that one

1073
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 15: game at a time, and that's the Patriots next So.

1074
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 6: How hard is it to face Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh Once

1075
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 6: they start to get the momentum going and the crowd

1076
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 6: gets into it.

1077
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 15: I mean, I feel like that's anywhere honestly, man. But

1078
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 15: Pittsburgh's different. It's an AFC North rivalry.

1079
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1080
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: You know they're gonna be coming out that ball. They're

1081
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 3: gonna be humming.

1082
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 15: They're known for their front seven, their their their their interior,

1083
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 15: their edge rushers, their linebackers, being physical, and we just

1084
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 15: got a master that physicality.

1085
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 3: Man.

1086
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 15: But like I said, man, season's not over. We gotta

1087
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 15: just keep getting better every week and you know, come

1088
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Speaker 15: back stronger next week.

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Speaker 6: Chase Brown and ran for ninety nine yards. As a team,

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Speaker 6: he ran for more than one hundred. Do you feel

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Speaker 6: like that aspect of the offense has kind of turned

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Speaker 6: the corner now where you feel like the running game

1093
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 6: is pretty reliable.

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Speaker 15: I feel like we bought him to what we bought

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00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 15: into our oc our head coach and our on opposition

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Speaker 15: coaches philosophy.

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Speaker 3: Just run the ball. And like I said, Chase is

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Speaker 3: a special talent.

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 3: That guy right there runs hard.

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Speaker 15: Practice is hard, like I said in the building, like

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00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 15: I said, like I said, he always has pen paper,

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00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 15: he's always studying hard, watching film.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 15: Like I said, he deserves it. So we just gotta

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00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 15: be better for him. And going forward, you know, we

1107
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 15: gotta just you know, keep holding them the run game,

1108
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 15: just keep getting better because he's a he's a guy

1109
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 15: that if you get him in space and if you

1110
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 15: you know, make Keith blocks man, he's he's gonna take

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00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 15: them to the house. So, like I said, we just

1112
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 15: got him. Like I said, we've been taking a step

1113
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 15: in the right direction in the run game. But for him, man,

1114
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 15: we just gotta keep getting better every week so he

1115
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 15: can show high supposed to be is.

1116
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 6: Appreciate your time, guests to luck against the Pats next week.

1117
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: Appreciate you Mims after the game, Dave, give me a

1118
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: give me a kind of a scouter reporting and in

1119
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: his second year, Do you like the track and the

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Speaker 2: projection that Mims is on in the kind of the growth,

1121
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: development and maturity that you would hope for in a

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00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: second year player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like. I like Amarius Mims' potential. You know,

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00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: I think he's, uh, he's a genetic freak. I mean

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Speaker 3: he is, He's He's a marvel physically. He's he can

1126
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: move really well for a guy his size. Uh, there's

1127
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: no stiff you know, in a Marius Mims. I mean

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00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: he's very fluid. Uh. He bends really well at the

1129
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: knees and and he doesn't bend at the waste. He

1130
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: bends at the knees. He's got flexibility in his in

1131
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 3: his ankles, and he's got flexibility and his knee joint.

1132
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: And he's he's very strong, you know, big, naturally strong guy.

1133
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 8: He is.

1134
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: He's a horse, and I think Scott Peters, the new

1135
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: offensive line coach, has given him additional tools for his toolbox.

1136
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: You know. He he played at Georgia, was well coached

1137
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: down there, didn't get he missed a lot of activity

1138
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: in games because of uh injury and hopefully you know,

1139
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 3: he's been nicked up a little bit here with the

1140
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. Hopefully that is sometimes guys have a period

1141
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: of time during the course of their career where that

1142
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: is a problem, but then it goes away. And hopefully

1143
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: when he's done and retired, he will be able to

1144
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 3: reflect back and say, man, that was a struggle getting

1145
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: through that period of time. But I think that that

1146
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: he Scott Peters likes the way he plays, likes his attitude,

1147
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: likes his approach to the game. Intelligent, you know, he's

1148
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: not a guy that he doesn't blow assignments the tackle position.

1149
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: After having played all five you know in my career

1150
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: and a couple of times in the same game, the

1151
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: tackle position is not real sophisticated in terms of assignments.

1152
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: You got the end, you know, basically, you got the

1153
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: end the end man on the line of scrimmage. But

1154
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 3: he he does have good football IQ overall IQ general

1155
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: I Q smart guy, he's good teammate. All the other

1156
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: offensive lineman love the guy, as do other position players.

1157
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: So I think a Marius Mims is a good addition

1158
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: of the football team.

1159
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: When you're a smart guy and a willing learner and

1160
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: a sponge, I think you hit on a great point.

1161
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: He didn't have a whole lot of snaps in playing

1162
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: time in college, so there's still a learning curve, and

1163
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: he's it's almost like a piece of clay that he

1164
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: hadn't developed a ton of bad habits, so you can

1165
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: just kind of mold him into what you want on

1166
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 2: the on the NFL level, and he seems willing to

1167
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: learn and adapt as you go that's that's all you're

1168
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: looking for.

1169
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if if when you draft a guy

1170
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 3: like him, I mean, his his future could project to

1171
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: be you know, not not sure fire Hall of famer,

1172
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: but that type of skill set or you know, is

1173
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: he a bust? Is he You hate to use that word.

1174
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: I don't think he is, but I'm saying, you know,

1175
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: that's that's obviously when when guys come in highly acclaim,

1176
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: there's pressure with that and if they don't live up

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00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 3: to it and fulfill it, you know, oh yeah, that dude,

1178
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 3: he was a bust, you know, and that that kind

1179
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 3: of that kind of attitude, you know, you don't like

1180
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: to hear. So I do think I think he's got

1181
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: a very very bright future. I think he's playing at

1182
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: a good level. I'd say he's grading out as well

1183
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: as just about any of the offensive lineman you know

1184
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: that the Cincinnati Bengals have. I'm not sure if Scott

1185
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: Peters is a very is he a real task master

1186
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: greater like you know, Tiger every once in a while

1187
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: would be. You know, I remember John Shiner saying, I

1188
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 3: got Tiger. My god, I can't. I can't do anything right.

1189
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I guess I can't even put

1190
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 3: my uniform on right. But we'll see, we'll see how

1191
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: I do think the the one two punchs though Scott

1192
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 3: Peters teaching Amarius Mims the game of football in the

1193
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: NFL is a positive.

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Speaker 7: Thing still ahead.

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Speaker 2: We'll flip the script back onto the defensive side of

1196
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 2: things and talk about the day turned in by Miles

1197
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: Murphy and others as we continue with Bengals on on

1198
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Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, we

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Speaker 2: continue on Rocket and Roller Throw a Monday Night at

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Speaker 2: Bengals on Bengals Radio Network, Hit seven hundred WLW, LANs Bookatluster,

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Speaker 2: Dave Lapham, we just made eye contacts. See behind the scenes.

1202
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: We just made eye contact. Dave reach for a card

1203
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: and we had that look like card and I thought, yeah,

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00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 2: let's go and behind the scenes, boom right there, telepathic waves.

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Speaker 3: There we go, and we're talking out the Fiber Lance,

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Speaker 2: David, if fans are looking for something exciting out of

1210
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: a frustrating day yesterday, to me. It was exciting that

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00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy. I jotted his name down a number of

1212
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: times throughout the game. And there's been a lot of games, right,

1213
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: I didn't jot his name down at all, and I

1214
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: was like, where was Miles Murphy today? But unofficially seven tackles,

1215
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: a sack, two quarterback hits, a tackle for loss. Yes,

1216
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: he did have a roughing the passer, but that was

1217
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Speaker 2: a moment where Miles Murphy made his presence felt and

1218
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: that that's a good sign. They need more of that

1219
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: from him.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean that stat line that you just read

1221
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: is probably the best he's had in his career, I

1222
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 3: would think, so, there's no question about it. I mean,

1223
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: his his activity level was at a premium. I mean,

1224
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: he was he was a factor coming off the edge,

1225
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: he uh and and that's what the Bengals thought that

1226
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 3: they were going to get when they drafted him, and

1227
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: he is. He's been a uh, you know, just a

1228
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 3: tough nut to crack for the for the Cincinnati Bengals

1229
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 3: coaching staff. And he's had different coaches now unfortunately, uh

1230
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: in a very short time frame of his career. But

1231
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: he he does have unrealized potential. He has a big,

1232
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: big upside. He showed some of the things that he

1233
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: can do. He is explosive, and he has a quick

1234
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: first step. I mean he can he can really uh

1235
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: you know, distort the timing and and and a guy

1236
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: like him not only does he have that quick first step,

1237
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: and can he speed rush the edge, he can hunker

1238
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: down and take you right down the middle and bull

1239
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: rush a little bit. He can he has a pretty

1240
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: good storage where he can he can stun you and

1241
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: stagger you a little bit. So Miles Murphy is a

1242
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: guy that, uh, okay, you put up one good game.

1243
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: Now how about following up two, three, four in a row.

1244
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: Let's let's show that you've arrived boy. And I was

1245
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: struck by uh. I enjoyed the part of the pregame conversation.

1246
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: Yesterday Dan Horden talked with him and and mentioned that

1247
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 3: Miles is is so cerebral and such a smart guy.

1248
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: And Dan said, sometimes defined yourself maybe overthinking something or

1249
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: spending too much time thinking about your your next move

1250
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: or how I'm gonna do this versus just the power

1251
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: of I'm gonna impose my will. And I would I

1252
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 3: would imagine that's something especially when you're a young guy,

1253
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: you're and you're a smart guy.

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00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot you have to clear out. And

1255
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just I need to impose my will and

1256
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 2: be able.

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00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: To say the hell with technique and fundamentals, but the

1258
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: hell a technique in front ofmentals. Just get after it.

1259
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 3: Just just you know, let fire the gun man, let

1260
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: it roll. You got all this uh, all this physical

1261
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 3: talent oozing out of that out of that body. Let

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00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: it happen. Man.

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00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: And there's no question with the the trays obviously dinged

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: up right now, we don't know what his future holds.

1265
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: And Shamar Stewart is still a rookie and in recovering

1266
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: from an injury, and Joseph Osai, we don't know what

1267
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: his future is. They need Miles Murphy when this isn't

1268
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: breaking news. You need first round picks to deliver. And

1269
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: they need a lot from Miles Murphy this season and

1270
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: going forward for this defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the and the Bengals have uh have spent

1272
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: a lot of high draft picks on the defense. YEP,

1273
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 3: have had to do it because they've decided as an

1274
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: organization they're going to spend money on the offense. You know,

1275
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and T Higgins. I mean,

1276
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 3: you get a lot of money invested in that offensive machine.

1277
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: So defensively, Uh, the best way other than signing uh

1278
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: you know a veteran free agents, uh who bolstered the defense,

1279
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: is to spend high draft picks on the defense side

1280
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: of the football. And the Bengals and Duke Tobin and

1281
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 3: the scouting department have been doing exactly that.

1282
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Speaker 2: Still ahead, let's talk a little bit about Joe Burrow. Yeah,

1283
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: the news of last week and what it may mean

1284
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: going forward. Will do that up next. He's Dave laphamm Lance.

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Speaker 7: But callister.

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Speaker 2: Right, Dave, last week, the big news, the surprise news,

1293
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: the WHOA wait a minute, the Bengals make an announcement.

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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow.

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00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: They have opened up the window. It's a twenty one

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00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: day practice window where he can practice without counting against

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Speaker 2: the roster numbers. At this point, it seemed to have

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00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: caught everybody off guard, what even his teammates. And that's good.

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Speaker 3: News, Yeah, really good news. Love it, how about it?

1300
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: In a season of not so much good news, there

1301
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: is good news regarding Joe Burrow and any positive news

1302
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: that involves number nine is tremendous news for the Cincinnati

1303
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Bengals organization. And uh, seeing him out in the field

1304
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: throwing and and I'll tell you looks pretty damn good

1305
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: to me. Man. He is he's snrolling the ball. The

1306
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: ball is coming off his hand very fluidly, very easily,

1307
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: very smoothly. He's uh, he's directing the football exceptionally well.

1308
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: His his accuracy is still pinpoint. I haven't seen any

1309
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: any drop or any change in that. And you know,

1310
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: the thing that Joe Burrow has is is just a

1311
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: it's it's almost like the movie The Natural. He just

1312
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 3: has a feel for the game. He understands football about

1313
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: as well as it could be understood, you know. He

1314
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: he if he we're going to UH school at the

1315
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: collegiate level and studying football, he'd have his doctorate and

1316
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: be going for his doctor at plus thirty or whatever

1317
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: the hell it would be. He's he's an incredible, incredible

1318
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: athlete physically and mentally, and it really does. It puts

1319
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: a bounce in the step of everybody, you know, coaching staff, uh, players,

1320
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: everybody involved in the Cincinnati Bengals when they see Joe

1321
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 3: Burrow at that locker. And it has been interesting to

1322
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: watch guys come by Joe Burrow's locker and you know,

1323
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: sit down next to him and the empty locker and

1324
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 3: talk to him and you know, get get a feel

1325
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: for what what he's doing and how he feels. And

1326
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: they come come away from it, you can see a

1327
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: different a different like I said before, bouncing their step,

1328
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit different gait as they're as

1329
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: they're looking upon their day.

1330
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: The the initial speculation nationally what all this has happened was, uh,

1331
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: maybe mid December, and now we're we're looking at speculation

1332
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: of maybe Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens. Maybe that's

1333
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: a little bit early. Maybe it's Buffalo the next week.

1334
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: I just know this. It was fifty seven days from

1335
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: the surgery to his return to the practice field. And yeah,

1336
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: you could argue Joe's had a lot of practice unfortunately rehabbed.

1337
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: But you talk about sinking your all into a rehab

1338
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: to get back for your team. This quickly says a

1339
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: lot about Joe Burrow. Well, it didn't need to be said,

1340
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: because I think everybody knew and respected it. But I'll

1341
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: say it. He put a lot into this to get

1342
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: back to this.

1343
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 3: Point, no doubt. I mean he invested everything, you know,

1344
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: all of his time, all of his energy, and he

1345
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: wants to play. He loves his teammates, his teammates love him.

1346
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: He wants to be part of it. It's like he's

1347
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 3: got a big hole in his stomach, in his heart,

1348
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: you know, and other organs probably in his body when

1349
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: he's not able to go out there and do his

1350
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: thing because he is he's a high level, high producing

1351
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: quarterback in the National Football League and he's a leader.

1352
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: There's the undisputed leader of the football team. And it's

1353
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: just not the same when when Joe Burrow's not at

1354
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: the helm and hopefully as sooner rather than later, and

1355
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 3: that twenty one day deal, it's he doesn't have to

1356
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 3: sit out the whole twenty one day. He can be

1357
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 3: activated at any time. There as long as the coaches

1358
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: feel like he's ready. And then even more importantly or

1359
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 3: equally important to that is the training staff and Joey

1360
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: Bostay and everybody. Are they good with how Joe Burrow

1361
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: is physically and can he handle the riggers in the

1362
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: physicality of the NFL.

1363
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: If let's let's play it out, he's clearly he's been

1364
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: cleared to do what he's doing. If that continues to

1365
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: be the case and he feels good, would there be

1366
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: any hesitation? I'm one who I tended to fall to.

1367
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: Players play, and if they're healthy and they want to play,

1368
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: and they're cleared to play, they play. You know. The

1369
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 2: other side of the argument, the elephant of the room is, well,

1370
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: if if they lose this game to the Patriots and

1371
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: they're sitting at three and eight, right, what's the use

1372
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: of playing Joe Burrow? But man, Joe's only played a

1373
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: game and a half this season, and if he's worked

1374
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: his tail off to get back and he feels and medically,

1375
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: they say, green light, do you play Joe Burrow? Yes?

1376
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: And because I mean Joe Burrow, will He'll demand to

1377
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 3: me play? You know? He he You're right, I mean

1378
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 3: he he is Uh. He is rehabbing like a banshee

1379
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 3: every single day with the thought in mind that I'm

1380
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 3: gonna go out there and play football, the game I love,

1381
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 3: the game I've done my entire life, and I am

1382
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: going to show my teammates the way I'm gonna I'm

1383
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: gonna lead the way. I'm going to be a beacon

1384
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: of light for my team and for this organization, and

1385
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna win football games. And you never know what

1386
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: will happen around league. Maybe somebody else suffer assisting of

1387
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: an injury at a key position, and all of a sudden,

1388
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: they're a different football team. So you know, you play

1389
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: it out man, and and uh, and Joe Burrow is

1390
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 3: ready to do that for sure.

1391
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: Boy, I think of of messaging and optics. If Joe

1392
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: works his tail off this hard to get back and

1393
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: and he wants to, and he's been medically cleared, and

1394
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: and there's a debate, well, we're not going to play

1395
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 2: him because we're out of it. What does it say

1396
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: to the rest of the tea. I just think it'd

1397
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: be a weird message to everybody else who's banged up,

1398
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: and I know they're not QB one making fifty million year.

1399
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: But for anybody else banged up or gone through a

1400
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: lot this season, if they suddenly looking, your team says, well, no,

1401
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: we're not going to play Joe because the season might

1402
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: be I just that's that's a tough message.

1403
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: It is. It's a bad message, and it's a double standard. Yeah,

1404
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, you know, you can't have a

1405
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 3: set of rules for everybody and then another set of

1406
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: rules for Joe Burrow because he's Joe Burrow. You know,

1407
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 3: it's like that now you're playing with fire.

1408
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and we've heard he's he's using a I haven't.

1409
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's seen it, a protective type thing

1410
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: in the built into the shoe to help the toe.

1411
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: So there's precautions being taken there. And I think having

1412
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: said all this, will still would we'll still kind of

1413
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: hold her breath because you don't want him to get

1414
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: hurt again. I mean, there's excitement that he's that he's

1415
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: back and he'd be cleared and to be okay, you

1416
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: just don't want to get him hurt again. And that's

1417
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: just the way it is. You know, you I went

1418
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: your quarterback hurt.

1419
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: Right, and you know early on I'm not sure in

1420
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: games if he'll be wearing that boot, he might just

1421
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: have a really you know, tape job that is extensive

1422
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: and taping the heck out of it where he can't

1423
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: even ben it, can't move it at all. Because, like

1424
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: you said, Lance, the worst thing, a nightmare that can't

1425
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: be imagined would be if he goes out there and

1426
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 3: re injures it.

1427
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think in the end it can be

1428
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: as simple as if medically he's cleared and he wants

1429
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: to play.

1430
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: God.

1431
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1432
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean if somebody says, well, he's eighty percent, then

1433
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, well, I don't know, right, if he's seventy

1434
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: five percent, if he's sixty, I don't want any I

1435
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: want one hundred percent. If you tell me he's one

1436
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 2: hundred percent cleared and he's in his mind ready to play,

1437
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: then he goes out and plays football, because that's who

1438
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: he is.

1439
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. In the game of football is you can be

1440
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. You can have played five, six, seven

1441
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 3: years never been hurt, and then boom, Yeah in year

1442
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 3: eight you're hurt. You're hurt in week one and you

1443
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: might miss the entire season or a half of or

1444
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. That's uh, that's that's life

1445
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. But like you say, everybody

1446
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 3: looks at the contract and the dollars that Joe Burrow's

1447
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: being paid, and you know understandably, so that's that's part

1448
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: of professional sports these days and any any one of

1449
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: the major professional sports. But you're right, in my mind,

1450
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: I would not mess with it. If he is ninety

1451
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: nine point nine percent, I want him one hundred percent

1452
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: to go out in that football field and do his thing.

1453
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's be honest. And you said at the start

1454
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: of the show, the way that this season, unfortunately has trended,

1455
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of people's futures in doubt. And

1456
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: if I'm part of the coaching staff, I want Joe

1457
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: Burrow playing because no disrespect to Joe Flacco. We love

1458
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: what Joe Flacco has brought to help the store team.

1459
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: But Joe Burrow is Joe Burrow, and that's one of

1460
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: a handful of the best quarterbacks in the NFL who

1461
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: gives you a better chance to win football game.

1462
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you want your best players out on the football

1463
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: field giving you the best chance to win as many

1464
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: games as you possibly can.

1465
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: We roll on on this Monday Night, talking about what

1466
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: happened yesterday, talking about what could happen in the future,

1467
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: and that includes a look at the New England Patriots.

1468
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: A little bit later on in the eight o'clock hour,

1469
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: it's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven

1470
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Down the stretch we go in our second

1471
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: of three big hours to night of Bengals Line on

1472
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW and Dave

1473
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: looking at the big picture before we get into our

1474
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: third hour tonight. Here a little bit more from Zach.

1475
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: Here a little bit more from Joe Flacco. It is amazing.

1476
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: It's part of the drama that is the NFL, the

1477
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: greatest reality show on earth. The uncertainty of year to year.

1478
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: You may be bad one year, you're suddenly good the

1479
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: next year. The salary cap, the scheduling, all that plays

1480
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: into There's amazing numbers from year to year, the number

1481
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: of tea I think at least four teams every year

1482
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: for like the last thirty years have gone from last

1483
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: to first at just nuts. And I look at the

1484
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: standings this morning and I see, as of today, the

1485
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: Ravens would not make the playoffs. There five and five,

1486
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: the Chiefs would make the playoffs. They're five and five

1487
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: over the NFC. The Lions would not make the playoffs.

1488
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's the beauty of the NFL. From

1489
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: a TV marketing standpoint, it's got to be the frustration

1490
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: of building football teams. Sometimes you just don't know. One

1491
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: year to the next things happen and there's a there's

1492
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: i mean, Denver's nine and two, New England's nine and two.

1493
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: Who saw New England being nine and two. It's just

1494
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: that's life in the NFL.

1495
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 3: No, you're you're absolutely right, and uh you know what,

1496
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 3: what a what a coaching job has taken place in

1497
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 3: New England. I mean they are just talk about turning

1498
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 3: it around. I mean Drake Mays has had a hell

1499
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: of an impact on that organization, on that on that

1500
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 3: football team. Uh, they're they're playing, they're playing really really well,

1501
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 3: a good brand of football. But there's not a team

1502
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: in the NFL that hasn't lost two games, you know,

1503
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 3: and and like you say, rattling off the teams that

1504
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 3: are at five hundred, that's why, that's why the Bengals

1505
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 3: could have gotten this one at four six there one

1506
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 3: game out with you know, with eight to play, they're

1507
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 3: definitely still you know, in the hunt. But the one

1508
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 3: thing you can't do is cashing your chips as a player.

1509
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 3: You can't say it's over now, you know, we're done.

1510
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a it's a big piece

1511
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: of history there. So uh, you know, they they they

1512
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 3: have to they have to keep their nose to the grindstone,

1513
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: keep keep preparing. Like you know, you're you're fighting for uh,

1514
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 3: your division title, you're fighting for a playoff birth, You're

1515
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: you're fighting for your professional career. And there's a lot

1516
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 3: to a lot to be said for that, you know,

1517
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 3: and and going that mindset, and.

1518
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: They think of the way things turn. I mean, who

1519
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: would have Indianapolis is eight and two with Daniel Jones

1520
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: as their quarterback? Nobody could have imagined that coming. And

1521
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: yet here here we are with where the cults are

1522
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: standing right now. It's incredible.

1523
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the beauty of sports, you know, is if

1524
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: you think you can, uh, you can make uh pick

1525
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 3: every where, but he's gonna finish in every single division. Yep,

1526
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: you get another thing coming, man. I Mean, there's so

1527
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: many variables the injury variable. Like you said, what they

1528
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: got in the draft from one year to the next,

1529
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 3: what they got in free agency from one year to

1530
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 3: the next, all those kind of things, all the team

1531
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 3: building aspect of things. I mean, you can you can

1532
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 3: change a change a team team around very very quickly,

1533
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: like they've done in New England.

1534
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: Boy in that that Baltimore Ravens team was once one

1535
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: in five and they were giving up I think they've

1536
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: given up more points in any five game stretch in

1537
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: their franchise history. And people started the doubt them. And

1538
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: Lamar was hurt, and now he's healthy, they're playing better defense.

1539
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: And you look up in Baltimore is now five and

1540
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: five and right here come the Baltimore Ravens.

1541
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. And when you have quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and

1542
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, you know, don't don't don't count those teams out.

1543
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 3: Don't count them out too soon, because stranger things have

1544
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 3: happened and uh, and these guys are uber competitive, there's

1545
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: no question about it. And they would love nothing more

1546
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,480
Speaker 3: than to change everybody's plans the way things are unfolding.

1547
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 2: By the way, to end the our final thought, I

1548
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: meant to ask you this earlier. Much was made of

1549
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: the swaying goal post yesterday with the wind. What tell

1550
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: me what was it like?

1551
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 7: Visual?

1552
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: It was the wind and the impact on yesterday's game

1553
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.

1554
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wind was a was an issue, was a factor.

1555
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: I thought that that the players handled it pretty darn

1556
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: well though, you know, I mean, I think they made it.

1557
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 3: It impacted the game minimally, you know, really it was

1558
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: almost inconsequential, which you know, you got to applaud the

1559
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: effort of everybody for that. So you take the wind

1560
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: into account, but you don't let it dominate your thinking.

1561
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: By the way, as much as I don't like the

1562
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers that renegade, that scene in that stadium with

1563
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: that music playing.

1564
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 3: Is just it is it really is. I mean, the

1565
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: fan base that is something they they they wait on

1566
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: that with baited breath, man they do, and they let

1567
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: it roll.

1568
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 7: Let it go, man, they do.

1569
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 2: All Right, that's two in the books. We've got one

1570
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: more to get to, a little bit more from Zach

1571
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 2: Taylor on yesterday's defeat, a little bit more from Joe Flacco.

1572
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: We'll do fun facts here that from Dan Horton. Get

1573
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: into those Patriots a little bit more as we head

1574
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: down the stretch. Oh and also remind me, Dave Lapham,

1575
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: I've got our final segment. Final segment. It was this date.

1576
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: I'll give you a little hint here. It was this date,

1577
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five. It was Bengals Bill's Ken Anderson through

1578
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 2: the Air, OJ on the ground. Yeah, Monday Night Football.

1579
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: It happened on this date. I might have to ask

1580
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: you for memories of that game.

1581
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 3: Okay, as we continue.

1582
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Speaker 2: He is Dave Lapham, I Aliance pick Alistair. It's Bengals

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: on On on the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Hey,

1584
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: welcome back Gain hour number three of three tonight. Thanks

1585
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 2: for being with us on Bengals one of the Bengals

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01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: Network at seven hundred WLW. Plans p Caanos Drew along

1587
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,280
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1589
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1590
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,320
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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: Thirty four twelve the final Yesterday's the Bengals dropped a

1592
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: three and seven on the season with the Laws. So

1593
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: let's get more from the coach. Here's Zach with the

1594
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: media after the game.

1595
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 4: You got to give them credit. They did the things

1596
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 4: you gotta do to win these games. AFC Now North

1597
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 4: November December Football. They did it, you know, and they

1598
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 4: tackled better. They won the turner of battle two to nothing,

1599
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 4: and that's the recipe for success.

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01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 3: And I think.

1601
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 4: Ultimately the score, the score is not indicative of how

1602
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 4: the game played through through the first three quarters, but

1603
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: it is what it is. They did the things you

1604
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 4: gotta win and so they got a chance to run

1605
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 4: away with it. And it was really frustrating and disappointing

1606
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 4: because this is not what we expected to run. But

1607
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 4: so what we did, you was to turn a battle

1608
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 4: two to nothing. That's how it's gonna play out.

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01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 13: There was yeah, what was happening.

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01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 4: It got loud, you know, so the communication became a

1611
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 4: problem on one of the timeouts. So your choice is

1612
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 4: just stand there and run no play you know, as

1613
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 4: you're trying to figure out with ten seconds on the

1614
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 4: play clock, and so we called the time out there

1615
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 4: and the delay of game was just again hard to hear.

1616
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 4: So I'm sure we're having to repeat a lot of calls,

1617
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 4: repeat calls on my end so that we can hear

1618
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 4: him in the huddle and then repat him in huddle.

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01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 4: So it's challenging. It was a loud environment, yeah, trying

1620
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: to get him jump, trying to get him jump. It's

1621
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 4: it's a tough call. They they are a tough short

1622
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,560
Speaker 4: yardage unit to go against. So yeah, it's it's that

1623
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 4: that's a decision worth criticizing. I'm not going to doubt that.

1624
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 4: But that was we went into the game film like

1625
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 4: that was an opportunity for us and didn't work out.

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01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 9: Did you feel like you were going to get momento

1627
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 9: after just throw, you know, just because all that happened beforehand,

1628
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 9: But even did you make you like get a little

1629
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 9: they lost.

1630
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 4: We were just expecting to go score, you know, and

1631
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 4: and uh came away with a field goal. Andra, if

1632
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. So again, I I don't read too

1633
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 4: much into how that situation unfolded. We're just we're just

1634
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 4: trying to call the next play. Oh I didn't. I

1635
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 4: still thought he threw the ball. Well, I mean it

1636
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 4: was as windy a game as ever ever been a

1637
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 4: part of. So as we watched the tape, I don't

1638
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 4: I don't know how much that factor did anything. I

1639
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 4: felt like he was throwing well and probably where he

1640
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 4: wanted to. Maybe he'll tell you different, but again that

1641
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 4: was that was you know, for both teams, it was

1642
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 4: there's a win again. Yes, yes.

1643
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: They did.

1644
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 4: I mean it was certainly one of the better games

1645
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 4: they played, and so they gave us those opportunities, you know,

1646
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 4: ten points third halftime after giving out that first drive

1647
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,879
Speaker 4: of the game. I was happy with the punts they forced. Unfortunately,

1648
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 4: we couldn't capitalize on offense and get enough points on

1649
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 4: the board to take advantage, especially with the ball coming

1650
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: out so at the second half, and you know, overall

1651
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 4: in the second half, just the two positions, we just

1652
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 4: got to get him on the ground. There's a lot

1653
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 4: of opportunities to get them on the ground. We're working

1654
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 4: like crazy, talking like it crazy. It's just got to

1655
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 4: show up.

1656
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 6: There's tough.

1657
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 4: I mean, the their defense is a great job. You

1658
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 4: have to give them credit. Well, coach, they have great players.

1659
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 4: You know, we we had some some drives there in

1660
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 4: the first half. We weren't backed up per se, but

1661
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 4: you know, minus ten, minus fifteen felt like we were

1662
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 4: working our way out of that thing, and you just

1663
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 4: can't kind of stall out at midfield, and so just

1664
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 4: didn't sustain, didn't get the exposive plays we we'd like

1665
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 4: to get. And that's you know, that's that's a credit

1666
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: to them. That's that's how they played us. And they

1667
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: were going to make us go to the link of

1668
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 4: the field, and we just weren't able to do that

1669
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 4: in the first half. I saw that first drive, yeah,

1670
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 4: because we we had them behind the sticks plenty of times,

1671
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: you know, and I think that was it was great,

1672
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 4: you know for our guys to do that and and

1673
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 4: some opportunities to take advantage of and and so then

1674
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 4: when they convert, Yeah, that takes the win out of

1675
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 4: you a little bit. Yeah, they again, I don't I

1676
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 4: don't think we we were ever in a tremendous rhythm

1677
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 4: in any facet. And and you have to credit them,

1678
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 4: you know. They they had a great plan, They played

1679
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 4: well at times, we found some momentum and just it

1680
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 4: wasn't enough of that to to go out and score

1681
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 4: enough points to win in the game keeping school there, Yeah, yeah,

1682
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: I mean these guys are in emotional matchups. We all

1683
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: know that there's a lot at stake for teams. There's

1684
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 4: a lot at stake for these individuals. It's competitive when

1685
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: when you got great players going against great players, it's

1686
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 4: going to be emotional at times. And jamar Is always

1687
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 4: do an excellent job of of controlling what you can control,

1688
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 4: and and so I respect that about them.

1689
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 8: Were able to win.

1690
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 3: He asked you about tackling to a point.

1691
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: Where you guys.

1692
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 6: And games that you might personnel changes to see if

1693
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 6: that can help tackling exactly.

1694
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 5: Might be about.

1695
01:17:58,720 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 9: But on the.

1696
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1697
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 4: I didn't see any of it. I got the worst

1698
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 4: view in the house. So I again, they didn't call

1699
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 4: us for anything. So I'm proud of our guys I

1700
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 4: I have. I have the worst eating house, no idea.

1701
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 4: You you feel them, you feel all the losses that

1702
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 4: you feel them all they eat at you all. You know,

1703
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 4: we're working, We're working like crazy to make sure that

1704
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 4: this doesn't happen. It happened today is disappointing. Our option

1705
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 4: is come back tomorrow and keep fighting and find a

1706
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 4: way to get a win. And we got a red

1707
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 4: hot team coming in here, and so what that's what

1708
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 4: we're gonna do. We're gonna do everything we can to

1709
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 4: clean this up, correct the mistakes, get back to work.

1710
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 4: And fight another week and find a way to get

1711
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 4: a win. Same just what I just said, the same thing.

1712
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 8: Opportunities just to kind of tighten things.

1713
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 4: Of course, you know it's we were our goals would

1714
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 4: be three and oer in the division, you know, coming

1715
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 4: out of this game. And that's that's not how out

1716
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 4: New England. I mean, it's simple, find a way to

1717
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 4: scratch and call and get a win and get the

1718
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 4: feeling we had back three weeks ago and we'd beat Pittsburgh,

1719
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: you know, and gave us a good opportunity. And so

1720
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Speaker 4: that's where we're back to. We're back to just find

1721
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 4: a way to get a win against New England and

1722
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 4: try to capitalize when them. That is our only option right.

1723
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 2: Now, Zach after the game yesterday, early on a couple

1724
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: of points during the game. Early on, Bengals score on

1725
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: their first drive, there's a penalty that moves the ball

1726
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: to the one. I had no issue with Zach going

1727
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: for two at that right right, probably would have gone

1728
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 2: with a different play. I don't know if I run

1729
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: into the teeth of the Steeler defense on it. But

1730
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: did you have a problem from the start with the

1731
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: opportunity to go for two? No, I didn't.

1732
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I had no issue with the

1733
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 3: decision that was made there. I mean, if you can't

1734
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: make a yard, you don't deserve it, you know, so,

1735
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 3: but I agree with you. I think the play selection,

1736
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 3: in hindsight, I think Zach would have gone in a

1737
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 3: different direction as well.

1738
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: One other aspect of this offense that is maddening, Dave

1739
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: is how long it seems to take them to get

1740
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: plays in that lead to timeouts or or delay of game.

1741
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,879
Speaker 2: There was one point Joe Flacco turned to the sideline

1742
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 2: and kind of had his arms up like that, and

1743
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: Zach was like, what And it's just that that has

1744
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: to be fixed. That that delay is just because any

1745
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: quarterback would want as much time, and Joe Burrow specifically

1746
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: is so good processing at the line, you want to

1747
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: give him time and not rush things. And so many

1748
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 2: times things seemed rushed to get a playoff.

1749
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's no excuse for you know, time management

1750
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: issues where you know you're literally going down in the

1751
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 3: last second and having to quick snap the football or

1752
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: you know, not having to burn timeouts in order to

1753
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: you know, alleviate a penalty that would be incurred otherwise.

1754
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean, those are the kind of things that from

1755
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 3: a game management standpoint, you just you just can't you

1756
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: just can't really have. And I don't know if it's

1757
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 3: like Zach's, you know, talking to Dan Pitcher and other

1758
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: members of the offense, and everybody's got opinions and everybody's

1759
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 3: sworn opinions out, and there's you know, they don't have

1760
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 3: enough time to sort through it all. If that's the case,

1761
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: that has to be remedied, I mean you have to,

1762
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 3: you have to have I remember Bill Walsh. I saw

1763
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 3: his play sheet for a game one time, and every

1764
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 3: single down in distance he had two or three things

1765
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: that he was going to be thinking about so he

1766
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 3: would get to the crux of it right away. And Okay,

1767
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 3: based on what I've seen so far, it's the first

1768
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: quarter of the game, I haven't really seen all that much.

1769
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 3: Let's try this. Well, okay, I've seen a lot more

1770
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 3: snaps of what they're doing defensively. Next time that comes up,

1771
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 3: sure and make a notation and he'd be over there

1772
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 3: like a mad you know, mad professor writing on his

1773
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 3: on his play by play sheet. You know, but those

1774
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: I think those are the guys who have a lot

1775
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: of success. Uh, you know preparation. He burned the midnight

1776
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 3: hours man he was. He was all about preparation for

1777
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 3: the game. So when when the game unfolded, he was ready.

1778
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Take a time out and continue a little

1779
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: hear a little bit more from Joe Flacco as we

1780
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: make our way through this Monday night. The show is

1781
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 2: Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW.

1782
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 2: Let's keep it moving on this Monday night of talking

1783
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: Bengals on Bengals Line, the Bengals Radio Network and seven

1784
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

1785
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 3: Hey, Bengals fans, make sure to catch me and Dan

1786
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 3: Hoard every Wednesday this season for Bengals Game Plan presented

1787
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 3: by Bud Light on the air from six to eight

1788
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1789
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco again, one hundred and ninety nine yards through

1790
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: the air, through a touchdown, through a pick six, one

1791
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: up with thequarterback rating of sixty eight point six years

1792
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 2: more from Joe after the game.

1793
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 3: Listen to me.

1794
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 5: We're halfway through the season. Basically, it's a little bit

1795
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 5: more now, but it really is so tough to look

1796
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 5: at it that way. I think it's easy to get

1797
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 5: caught up in that stuff, But you know it, I

1798
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 5: I really try to remove myself from those situations and

1799
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 5: just go play football. And I think if you do that,

1800
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 5: that's when you give yourself the best chance to be

1801
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 5: in the best position you want. Obviously, that's there lingering

1802
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 5: and you know, the opportunity and all that stuff, but

1803
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 5: you got to try to avoid getting caught up in

1804
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 5: those things are you're trying to manage the pain in

1805
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 5: the shoulder. How much worse did he get after?

1806
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 8: Now?

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01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, that's football. He did a good job.

1808
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 5: He buried me in the turf. But uh but I

1809
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 5: felt good, you know, felt good all game.

1810
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 6: Did they changed much the way they attack Jamara?

1811
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 5: Well, I think they made sure that. They probably did

1812
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 5: it more. Just they probably had a couple of guys

1813
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 5: on him more often than they did in the first game.

1814
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 5: And you know, that's why they're a good football team.

1815
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

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01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 5: And we knew, we knew they're gonna make adjustments and

1817
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 5: come in here and and play better than they did

1818
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 5: the first time we played them, and we just gotta

1819
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 5: we gotta match that.

1820
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 8: Two safeties would do gooder than that five.

1821
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 5: Did they did they change much bigger? Listen? I think

1822
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 5: everything they did we kind of had a plan for

1823
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 5: and and and could see that you know, why they

1824
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 5: were doing it and the fact that they were going

1825
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 5: to do it. You have to ask them, I mean

1826
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 5: in terms of what they feel like they can do

1827
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 5: and and and you know, I know, those guys are

1828
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 5: good players. And anytime you get your best players out there,

1829
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 5: you feel you feel like you got a you know,

1830
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 5: a good thing going.

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01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 9: Do you feel like there was a miss in terms

1832
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 9: of point when they lose their safety too, do you

1833
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 9: look at the situation orrey down do the secondary and

1834
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 9: you know whatever?

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01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 5: I just think I just think the way they were

1836
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 5: playing that stuff mattered. Obviously it matters over the long haul.

1837
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 5: But the way they were playing and trying to double

1838
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 5: guys and doing those things and just trying to get

1839
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 5: pressure with their front. I don't think it was one

1840
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 5: of those things where you could, you know, start drawing

1841
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 5: stuff up and take advantage of because guys were out.

1842
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 5: I think they were still sticking to their plan and

1843
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 5: doing what they were gonna do against.

1844
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 7: Us made so many you've made it, so.

1845
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 6: Many eight teams here.

1846
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 8: When did you begin to think that they might.

1847
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 5: Be you know, equipment and ground well no. I mean, listen,

1848
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 5: these games, you know they're gonna be battles. And even

1849
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 5: though this looks like a lot, it looks really bad.

1850
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 5: It's one of those typical games that you come playing

1851
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 5: here and all of a sudden it breaks loose and

1852
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 5: it goes the other way. But this you felt it today.

1853
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 5: It was a hard, physical game. They you knew they

1854
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 5: were gonna make it tough, tough for it for us,

1855
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 5: and we just didn't come through in those couple of

1856
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 5: little moments. You know, they got two touchdowns on defense

1857
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 5: and got everybody excited and we're able to pin their

1858
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 5: ears back and do their thing. And you know, that's

1859
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 5: what this game comes down to. It's it's one or

1860
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,799
Speaker 5: two plays that you can look back on, and obviously

1861
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 5: there's more than that and just the consistency of it,

1862
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 5: but there's always those plays. And it comes down to

1863
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 5: just playing and winning football and and and kind of

1864
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 5: waiting for your opportunity and you know, not letting not

1865
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 5: letting yourself get too far out ahead of yourself, and

1866
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 5: and trying to make things happen when they're not going to.

1867
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 5: And I don't really think we were doing that today,

1868
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 5: but we obviously you know, just we weren't able to wait, wait, wait,

1869
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 5: wait and strike. We uh, we made mistakes and they capitalized.

1870
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 5: I don't think so, I I I, I don't think so.

1871
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 5: And you know, I didn't pay much attention to it

1872
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 5: during the game, but you like it, it was windy

1873
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 5: out there. You could tell pregame ball was moving around.

1874
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 5: I don't think I've seen it like that before. I

1875
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 5: don't think so. I. I, like I said, I don't.

1876
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 5: I think during the game it r it really didn't

1877
01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 5: end up playing, you know, being a huge factor Georgian defense.

1878
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 5: But the team I thought they did a lot of

1879
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 5: good things today. You know, it's just a shame in

1880
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 5: the way that you know, we're kind of not managing

1881
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 5: each other right now and playing both sides as well

1882
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 5: as we can at the same time.

1883
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 3: So I know you your jobbing on the sidelines. But

1884
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 3: the extent you got to.

1885
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 8: See defensive at all, was there anything to your eyes

1886
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 8: that looked different about what they.

1887
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 5: Were doing well today versus it looked like they got

1888
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 5: you know, it looked like they were pinning their ears

1889
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 5: back a little bit more and playing with some confidence

1890
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 5: and playing with some speed, so they were able to

1891
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 5: kind of you know, break through the line a little

1892
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 5: bit and you know, get in the backfield a little

1893
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 5: bit more. And I just it just looked like they

1894
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 5: were playing faster.

1895
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco after the game and Dave, one thing was

1896
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: very clear. The Steelers took a much different approach to

1897
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: how they were going to handle Tea and Jamar this time.

1898
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 2: In the first meeting, Jamar and t were targeted thirty

1899
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: three times and had twenty two catches. Yesterday, Tea and

1900
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: Jamar combined for six catches on eighteen targets.

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01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 9: Uh.

1902
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: The Steelers certainly made the made their adjustments and weren't

1903
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 2: gonna let Jamar Chase go off like he did the

1904
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: first meeting.

1905
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 3: No, I mean they were like fly paper. I mean

1906
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 3: they had they had somebody. It was me and my

1907
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: shadow for both of those guys. I mean they they

1908
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 3: had people, you know, picking them up immediately once they

1909
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 3: came off the line of scrimmage. And I saw in

1910
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: both cases, said, you know, double teams almost every single

1911
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: snap as they were in the process of running their routes,

1912
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: and sometimes it'd be a you know, a third defensive

1913
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 3: player would work their way over in that direction and

1914
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 3: then and then get involved so they had those two targeted.

1915
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 3: They know that a big reason they lost the first

1916
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: matchup was because of those two, because of Jamar Chase

1917
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 3: and t Higgins. So they were going to neutralize those

1918
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 3: efforts and uh and and and diminish their contribution for sure,

1919
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 3: and I think they probably feel like that's a big

1920
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 3: reason that they won the rematch.

1921
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: Stick around more to get to, including Dan's weekly segment

1922
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: that we love fun facts talking with the Pride of

1923
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 2: Saint X Bengals quarterback Sean Clifford. Ahead, plus we'll get

1924
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: into those New England Patriots and what Mike Vrabel has

1925
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: done with that team. All ahead, as we rock and

1926
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Speaker 2: roll through a Monday night of talking Bengals football and

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01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey,

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01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 2: we're back on Bengals Line of this Monday night on

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01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW, sorting through

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Speaker 2: yesterday and about to look ahead before we're done at

1931
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: those New England Patriots on this Monday night and.

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Speaker 3: Bengals fans on Fridays, make sure to listen to myself

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Speaker 3: and Dan Horde from Bengals PEP Rally presented by Just

1934
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Speaker 3: Bear Chicken on the air from three to six pm

1935
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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1936
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Dan, each week we take a listen to

1937
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: his Fantastic Fun Fact segment. We love it he gets

1938
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 2: behind the scenes with a Bengal In this week, behind

1939
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 2: the scenes with the Pride of Saint X, the former

1940
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 2: Saint X quarterback Bengals quarterback. Here is Dan with Sean Clifford.

1941
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: No Fantastic Fun Facts with Dan Ord.

1942
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 6: Time for some fun facts with quarterback Sean Clifford, a

1943
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 6: local kid out of Saint Xavier High School here in Cincinnati.

1944
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 6: You haven't had the opportunity to play in a game

1945
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 6: yet for the Bengals, but describe what it's been like

1946
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 6: for you to go to work every day at pay

1947
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 6: Court Stadium.

1948
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1949
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Speaker 11: I think it means lots of my family first and foremost.

1950
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 11: You know, the the Cliffords have been living here for

1951
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 11: over twenty years now, and you know, we really truly

1952
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 11: call this place a home. So just being able to

1953
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 11: go to work with a great group of guys, great

1954
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 11: coaching staff, and great front office. I think that all together,

1955
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 11: it just means a little extra. I know it means

1956
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 11: a lot to the guys in this locker room, but

1957
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 11: for me personally, you know, it is personal. So it's

1958
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 11: been a it's been a pleasure to be here so

1959
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 11: far and looking get some wins in the future.

1960
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 6: Did you attend a lot of Bengals games when you

1961
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 6: were young, and if so, do any specific memories stand out.

1962
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 11: We would, We would go to games all the time.

1963
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 11: But my senior year, my parents actually got my brother

1964
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 11: and I season tickets for just for my senior year

1965
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 11: and his eighth grade year. And if you know brother,

1966
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 11: the brother connection, obviously you bicker and you fight each

1967
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 11: other for so long. And it was actually funny because

1968
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 11: in my last year before I left for college and

1969
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 11: his first year going into high school. You know, it

1970
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 11: was that opportunity to go to the Bengals games where

1971
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 11: I feel like we really developed that best friendship and

1972
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 11: then it carries on today. You know, that's my right

1973
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 11: hand man. So I owe a lot to this team

1974
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 11: just from being a fan first and foremost. My brother

1975
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 11: and I would always talk about it were I was

1976
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 11: able to the first game point out to Zach the

1977
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 11: exact spot where I was sitting, you know, almost a

1978
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 11: decade ago. So it's it's really cool to be back

1979
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 11: on the field contributing to a team. Maybe not on

1980
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 11: the field, but from a week to week perspective, just

1981
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 11: giving it at my all and trying to find a

1982
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 11: way to win.

1983
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 6: We're visiting with Sean Clifford. One of the most memorable

1984
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 6: moments in the Bengal Super Bowl run in twenty twenty

1985
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 6: one was the playoff game in Tennessee where Joe Burrow

1986
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 6: got sacked nine times and the Bengals still won the game.

1987
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 6: You did that in the state championship game for Saint

1988
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 6: X back in twenty sixteen. Describe that season because it

1989
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 6: was not a smooth ride for the Bombers.

1990
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, very similar to this year. I think, you know,

1991
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 11: the at least the opportunity. You know, we went five

1992
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 11: and five in the regular season. Steve Speck actually wrote

1993
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 11: a book about that season. But when five and five,

1994
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 11: I had injuries. We had injuries going into the season.

1995
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 11: I think that we had five starters out by the

1996
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 11: first week. So, you know, it was a lot of

1997
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 11: ups and downs, but put together some good wins in

1998
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 11: the back end, made it into the playoffs, is a

1999
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 11: very late seed, and then rode that momentum all the

2000
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 11: way to the state championship, and I think that you know,

2001
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 11: you in those situations, you know, I compare it, you

2002
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 11: can compare it in every level.

2003
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 14: You know, you just got to find a way to

2004
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 14: string together wins.

2005
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 11: But then once you get to the big dance and

2006
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 11: it's one game at a time, anything can happen. So

2007
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 11: I think that that's always been on mindset is you know,

2008
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 11: a season's long, it's gonna be tough, and there's gonna

2009
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 11: be ups and downs, but weathering that storm and being

2010
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 11: able to at least get to the final that you know,

2011
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 11: that final show, then anybody can win every single week.

2012
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 11: So it's just about putting putting enough together, you know,

2013
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 11: because you're gonna face adversity, But if you can put

2014
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 11: enough together to get to that point, then you can

2015
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 11: catch a hot streak.

2016
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 6: From a state championship at Saint X, it was on

2017
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 6: to Penn State, where you spent six years. Why did

2018
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 6: you choose the Niitney Lions.

2019
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 14: It really came down to James Franklin and I hate

2020
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 14: to see him go.

2021
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 11: It was tough to see him go, for sure, And

2022
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 11: I know a lot of guys in that locker room,

2023
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 11: uh are still feeling that just because you know, James

2024
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 11: was such a great guy, a family man, somebody who

2025
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 11: really preached, you know, the same mantra similar to Saint

2026
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 11: x Men for others. You know, it was kind of

2027
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 11: the same way at Penn State, and my mom really

2028
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,600
Speaker 11: fell in love with the idea of me going to

2029
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 11: that school. Thank god she did, because I really, you know,

2030
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 11: she she was a big proponent of going to Penn State. Uh,

2031
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 11: staying committed the whole way through, committing early and staying admitted.

2032
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 14: So I owe a lot to my parents for kind

2033
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 14: of steering me in that direction. I always love.

2034
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 11: Penn State, but once I got there, it's around the people,

2035
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 11: you know, Pennsylvania. I really consider Pennsylvania and Ohio to

2036
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 11: be the two spots that I really love Midwest kid

2037
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 11: through and through, that's for sure.

2038
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 6: After a record setting career at Penn State, you were

2039
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 6: a fifth round draft pick by the Green Bay Packers.

2040
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 6: Describe your draft experience.

2041
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 14: It was a crazy one.

2042
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,799
Speaker 11: I you know, I didn't get invited to the combine,

2043
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 11: was counted out a bunch of different times, and then

2044
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 11: as I kind of told my story through the draft

2045
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 11: process the scouts and kind of worked my way up

2046
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 11: to to the GM level and the coaches level. I

2047
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 11: think that my story is all about heart and will

2048
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 11: and what I can provide from a value perspective to

2049
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 11: a team.

2050
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 14: And it's it's a day to day thing.

2051
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 11: You know, you're gonna get my best every single day,

2052
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 11: doesn't matter. You know, if it's if it's a Monday

2053
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 11: or Tuesday off day, or if it's game day. You know,

2054
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 11: I'm gonna give it my all because I'm I always

2055
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 11: like to think I'm an ultimate competitor. I want to

2056
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 11: win as much as the next guy, and I'll do

2057
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 11: whatever it takes for my teammates to be able to

2058
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 11: get that done.

2059
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 14: I think that, you know, green Bay heard that.

2060
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 2: I know that.

2061
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 11: In the process, Cincinnati, you know, I was talking to

2062
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,839
Speaker 11: brad Our quarterback coach as well, and he even reminded

2063
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 11: me that, you know, they weren't taking a quarterback in

2064
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 11: the draft, but if I did slip outside of the draft,

2065
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 11: you know, since he was gonna try to be the

2066
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 11: first call that they make to get me here. So

2067
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 11: I always appreciated them. But Green Bay, you know, took

2068
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 11: that shot in the fifth round. You know, I was

2069
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 11: able to back up Jay Love for a couple of years,

2070
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 11: and I thought that the bonds that I created in

2071
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 11: that locker room, I have a lot of respect for

2072
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:36,560
Speaker 11: how the Packers.

2073
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 14: Run their organization. It's just a it's a it's a

2074
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 14: well run show.

2075
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 11: And I think that it really helped me early in

2076
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 11: my career to be able to see how it's done.

2077
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 11: So that way, you know, I can bring that that

2078
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 11: energy and that mindset into places like this.

2079
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,600
Speaker 6: We're visiting with Sean Clifford. You join the Bengals in

2080
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,440
Speaker 6: September following Joe Burrow's injury. Do all of your Cincinnati

2081
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 6: friends and family members as what's Joe Burrow?

2082
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 5: Like?

2083
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 11: I think it's it's both Joe's now obviously, you know,

2084
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 11: being in the in a room full of Joe's and

2085
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 11: Jake uh, you know, we have three great minds in

2086
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,719
Speaker 11: that room that that all contribute in different ways.

2087
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 2: You know.

2088
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 11: I think that Joe Burrow is somebody who has a

2089
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 11: lot of experience early He's an elite, elite talent and

2090
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 11: somebody who I've I it's funny if we we lost

2091
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 11: the game into Minnesota my in twenty nineteen in a

2092
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 11: in a very controversial game that I won't get into

2093
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 11: because referees in my opinion. But if we win that game,

2094
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 11: in which we should have, we actually would have played

2095
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 11: Joe and the l S and the LSU Tigers in

2096
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 11: in the first week of that that playoff. So I've

2097
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 11: always seen him as a great competitor. I've seen him

2098
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 11: as somebody who you know, I have, I have a

2099
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 11: lot of respect for, and so you know, he provides.

2100
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 14: So much value to that room.

2101
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 11: And then you add Joe Flacco in the mix, his

2102
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 11: experience and all the story that he can tell of

2103
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 11: different looks and different players he's played with and how

2104
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 11: to scheme certain ways.

2105
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 14: It truly is incredible to just see the full picture.

2106
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 11: And then you lay in and a get a guy

2107
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 11: like Jake who's done such a good job of backing

2108
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 11: up Joe and coming into big situations and winning games.

2109
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 14: Very blessed to be a part of this room, and

2110
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 14: I think it's.

2111
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,759
Speaker 11: Competitive, I think it's exciting, and someone that really pushes

2112
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 11: not only our room, but the players around us as

2113
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 11: well to be their best version of the selves and

2114
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:29,879
Speaker 11: really elevate the competition.

2115
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 6: A few wild card topics now for Bengals quarterback Sean Clifford,

2116
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 6: who is your all time frint athlete in any sport.

2117
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 11: I think Kobe's probably for me, just because of the mindset,

2118
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 11: the mentality, the mama mentality of I think he was

2119
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 11: such a servant leader outside the community. I think that

2120
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 11: he did a lot as you study kind of his

2121
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 11: life and what he did with his family. I think

2122
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 11: from a business perspective, he did so much off the

2123
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 11: field that really really left a mark. From a community perspective,

2124
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 11: he was always pouring back into kids and being able

2125
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 11: to to really give back to that community. But then

2126
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 11: when you turn on the tape and you watch him

2127
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 11: in a game, he turns into a complete nutter savage,

2128
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 11: and I think that that's I think that there's time

2129
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 11: and place for all that. You know, I think that

2130
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 11: you have to be an upstanding, an up stay, and

2131
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 11: a citizen and a good man in the community, and

2132
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 11: I always try to be that, especially now being back

2133
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 11: in the community that gave me so much. But really

2134
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 11: for for a guy like that, you know, when when

2135
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 11: when it's time to play ball, I think it. You know,

2136
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 11: there is a switch that you can turn on and

2137
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 11: it's okay to to kind of get aggressive in that

2138
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 11: situation because you know, all that hard work and dedication

2139
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 11: that you put.

2140
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 14: In to be able to to win and to you know,

2141
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 14: have the chance to win. It's it's it's meaningful.

2142
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 6: Penn State famously wears the most plain uniforms in college football,

2143
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 6: perhaps all of sports. So bland that they're cool or

2144
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 6: time for an update.

2145
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 14: Oh they're cool.

2146
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 11: I'm an old school type guy anyway, so I don't

2147
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 11: think that they need any sort of update. I've always

2148
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 11: appreciated the tradition, and I think that you know, I

2149
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 11: I grew up watching I wasn't a huge NFL guy

2150
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 11: until I really started fall in love with the Bengals,

2151
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Speaker 11: but I always appreciated watching college ball and specifically college players,

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Speaker 11: and I just always loved I followed a lot of Nordame,

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Speaker 11: traditional program, you know, with a lot of a lot

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Speaker 11: of good guys, good community guys. And I don't think

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Speaker 11: I I knew the importance of that when I was

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Speaker 11: just a kid. You know, you're just watching them be

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Speaker 11: busy they're on TV. But you know, I followed some

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Speaker 11: some some great players just because I was just attracted

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Speaker 11: to the way that they held themselves.

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Speaker 14: And I think that you find that at Penn State.

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Speaker 14: I think you find that in a urdame. You find

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Speaker 14: it at.

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Speaker 11: Schools that are traditional. So to answer your question, long

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01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 11: story short, Yeah, I love the uniforms.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 6: Final fun fact for Sean Clifford. This one's kind of deep.

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Speaker 6: If you could meet anybody in history, living or deceased,

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Speaker 6: who would that person be.

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Speaker 11: You know, I'm a Christian man and I think that

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Speaker 11: Jesus would be somebody who I love to meet. You know,

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Speaker 11: I think that it's He's the ultimate messenger and he's

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Speaker 11: the ultimate, you know, warrior when it came to doing

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Speaker 11: good in this world. And I think that the conversations

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Speaker 11: that you know, I would have and will have one

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Speaker 11: day in my in my opinion, will be magical and

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Speaker 11: really life changing. So, you know, always trying to dive

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Speaker 11: into the word and finding different ways to talk to

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Speaker 11: him in different ways, but having an actual sit down conversation,

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Speaker 11: maybe over at dinner, it would be really cool.

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Speaker 6: Sean, appreciate your time. It's great to have you on

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Speaker 6: your hometown team. Best of luck the rest of the year.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Dan Horde with Sean Clifford. For more of the those interviews,

2184
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 2: always check out the Bengals Booth podcast. Take a time

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01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: out and come back, let's figure out what's making those

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01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 2: New England Patriots tick. They are rolling nine and two

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Speaker 2: on the season. Talk a little bit about that club

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Speaker 2: is we roll on with Bengals Line at the Bengals

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Speaker 2: Radio Network and seven hundred WLW and now on the

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Speaker 2: stretch on this Monday night of Bengals Line and the

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Speaker 2: Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Next up for

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Speaker 2: the Bengals the nine and two Patriots, winners of eight

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Speaker 2: straight games under coach Mike Vrabel, and they've I was

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Speaker 2: struck by a story I read over the weekend about

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Speaker 2: the Patriots and what Mike Vrabel has instilled in this

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Speaker 2: team and how he has leaned on his team captains

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Speaker 2: and sitting a tone. And last week he gave the

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Speaker 2: captains he said, look, were later in the season, we

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Speaker 2: could lighten up the load today and go inside. What

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01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 2: do you think And they said, no, we want full

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Speaker 2: practice outdoors. And he said on Thursday for the Thursday

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Speaker 2: night game short day, he said, should we go with

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01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 2: the regular team meeting early morning and or I could

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01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 2: let you guys off and let you clear your head.

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01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 2: And the team captain said, no regular team meeting. Last

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01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 2: week on their standard day off. Forty one guys showed

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01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 2: up on the standard day off. And the whole point

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01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 2: of the piece was they have bought into hook line

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Speaker 2: and sinker and what Mike Vrabel is instilling in that team,

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Speaker 2: and they're getting the results and and they're rolling right now.

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Speaker 3: They are they are, they're they're probably the hottest team

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01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. And uh, you know, you're

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01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 3: gonna give a lot of credit to Mike Vrabel. And

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01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 3: there's nothing like winning, yep, I mean, winning makes the

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01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 3: labors of us all no question. Mike Rabel could say,

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01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 3: you know, I want you to on Wednesdays, I want

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01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 3: you to put your helmet on and look through the

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01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 3: year hole. We're going to do that every Wednesday, and

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Speaker 3: that's how we're going to practice. And and uh, you know,

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01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 3: if you win it eight or nine in a row,

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01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 3: that's that's all good.

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Speaker 8: So the the.

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Speaker 2: Teams.

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Speaker 3: Football teams are creatures of habit, and when you establish

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Speaker 3: good habits, you're gonna win football games. That's usually the case.

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Speaker 3: And and that's the case for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: They have turned things around very very quickly. And it's

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01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 3: always about the quarterback in the National Football league, and

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Speaker 3: they get a young quarterback by the name of Drake

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01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 3: May who's lighting it up. Man. He is playing at

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01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 3: a very very high level. I mean Tom Brady set

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Speaker 3: a high bar in New England. I mean every quarterback

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Speaker 3: is always going to be like, oh jeez, in the

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01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 3: shadow of Tom Brady, how do I crawl out of

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01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 3: that shadow? Drake May seems to be extremely poised. I

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01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 3: mean nothing, nothing seems to rattle this kid. He seems very,

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01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 3: very unflappable. So it's the Patriots have a lot of

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01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 3: things really going for him. And when you when you

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01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 3: look at their roster, the starting lineups offensively and defense,

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Speaker 3: there's not a whole lot of names you say, oh

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01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 3: my god, this is a three time Pro bowler. You

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01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 3: know this guy they got. I mean, it's it's guys,

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01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 3: you know. But they're they're good football players, and they're

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01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 3: playing collectively, you know, Synergy one plus one equals three.

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01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 3: They're playing at such a high level. And I think

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01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 3: part of it is the you know, the intangible of yeah, Rabel,

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01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 3: we know we got the best coach in the league.

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01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 3: We know we're better than every other team in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and that regard. So let's go win games.

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Speaker 2: Drake May is completing seventy one point nine. I mean

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Speaker 2: there was a time where I mean sixty one was like,

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01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 2: well you got to throw it complete at least sixty

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01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 2: percent in the league in a time. And now he's

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Speaker 2: at seventy one point too. That that's like a video

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Speaker 2: game number.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's that's like Tom Brady. It's like

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Speaker 3: a Brady number.

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Speaker 11: He is.

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Speaker 3: He is playing it up in.

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Speaker 2: Twenty only five interceptions as well.

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01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that ratio is outstanding. I mean, this kid's not

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01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 3: playing like your typical rookie. There's no no question about it.

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01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 3: And uh, you know he's he's definitely the leader of

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01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 3: the pack in the Boston fans. I grew up in

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01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 3: the Boston area, fifteen miles northeast of Boston, Massachusets, and

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01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 3: I know how those fans can be. So Drake May

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01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 3: is the toast of the town right now. But that

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01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 3: can change quickly, yes, But but he is, he's doing things.

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Speaker 3: He's doing everything the right way.

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Speaker 7: All right, we come back final segment.

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Speaker 2: I must ask you to go back in the time

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Speaker 2: machine to this date nineteen seventy five for Monday Night football.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals and the Bills. As we wrap things up

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Speaker 2: next Bengals on and the Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 7: All right, final segment of the night.

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Speaker 2: Let's put a caper on all this with a trip

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Speaker 2: back in time. Dave I noticed it was this date,

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five, Riverfront Stadium, Monday Night football was in

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01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 2: town for the first time. That's Howard and Down and

2281
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 2: host Sow. It was Bengals, it was Bills. Kenny throws

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01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: for four hundred and forty seven yards. OJ ran for

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Speaker 2: one ninety seven for the Bills. You guys win thirty

2284
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 2: three twenty four to move to eight and one on

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Speaker 2: the season. What a night that must have been.

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Speaker 3: It was incredible and we end up with a twelve

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Speaker 3: and four record. We went to eight and one, and

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Speaker 3: that's after that particular game, and it was Monday night

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Speaker 3: football in Cincinnati and Dandy Don and the Gifford Frank

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01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 3: Gifford and Howard co sal it was it was amazing.

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01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 3: The the energy in that stadium was was nuts. And

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01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 3: literally the best running back in the National Football League

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01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 3: O Jay Simpson and in my mind, the best national

2294
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 3: quarterback in the National Football League Kenny Anderson had a

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01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 3: duel at the OK Corral. Man, I mean they had

2296
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 3: a shootout in thirty three, twenty four. I mean that

2297
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Speaker 3: was there was a lot of offense, and I'm sure,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the network was excited as hell to have

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Speaker 3: that kind of a game because that was the hype.

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01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 3: You know, you got, you got explosive offensive football teams

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01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 3: coming coming in to do do battle and matchup and

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Speaker 3: and and they did. It lived up to its billing.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times you get the hype and the

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01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 3: game doesn't live up to the billing. You know, Uh,

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Speaker 3: this one, this one more than.

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Speaker 2: Did Isaac Curtis seven catches for one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: nine yards, Chip Meyers seven catches for one hundred and

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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: eight yards. Arlie Joiner five catches for ninety yards. Holy cow,

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Speaker 2: what a trio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he got two over one hundred yards

2311
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 3: and one at ninety that and that's you know, that's

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01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 3: obviously the most of the four forty seven that Kenny

2313
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 3: Anderson uh threw four. But I mean Chip Myers was

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01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 3: a big, tall, tough He was a cowboy, went to

2315
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 3: University Wyoming. I mean he literally he literally bulldog Steers

2316
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, you know, I mean, he was

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Speaker 3: he was something else. He ended up coaching in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League as well, and uh and had a

2319
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 3: had a great career in that and that side of it.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Joiner was the thing I remember about Charlie. He

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01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 3: made this sound when he was running sprints routes. Sounded

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01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 3: like a human typewriter. It's like, Oh, there he is,

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01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 3: he's he's breaking free. There's Charlie.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was great, but it and he was. He wasn't

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Speaker 3: the biggest guy. I don't think. I don't think he

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01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 3: was six feet tall. If he was, he was barely

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01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 3: six feet tall. But man, he played large and he

2329
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 3: was a great teammate. And that's the thing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: when you have success and you win games, it's easy,

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01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,560
Speaker 3: you know, in hindsight, it's like they had to have

2332
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 3: good attitudes. Yeah, and everybody did. You know, Paul Brown

2333
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 3: did a great job of, you know, picking talent from

2334
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 3: the collegiate level that was going to mesh in the

2335
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 3: National Football League. And he knew what he wanted. He knew,

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01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 3: you know, he had Isaac Curtis, the speed guy, and

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01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 3: then the other two were guys that could work off

2338
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 3: the speed of Isaac Curtis, very very effectively.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was a fun way to end it. Well,

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Speaker 2: we're fun results yesterday, but that was a fun way

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Speaker 2: to end it tonight. Right here this date, nineteen seventy five, man, second.

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Speaker 3: Year in the league at the young pup.

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Speaker 7: Yes, no doubt about that. We'll take well, we're done. Well,

2344
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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, we'll take a time out. Well,

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01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 7: we'll take our time out for good.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll go there next week and talk about Bengals

2347
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 2: and Patriots there for hanging out with us tonight. It's

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Speaker 2: been Ben Goles one in the Bengals radio network in

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW.

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