1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Bring on Ian Rappabor our NFL network insider powered by Chevron. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Chevron the human energy company committed to our local communities 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: and safely delivering affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: Ian Good afternoons or. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: How are you what's going on? 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 4: Are you guys doing? 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: We're doing great, man, six in a row. We're we're just, uh, 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: we're flying high here in Denver. It's it's been a 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: lot of fun, man, Yeah, pretty good. What's uh, what's 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: what's your reaction to the Broncos win streak. 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 4: You know, I think I'm more interested in how it's 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 4: come than in just the winning itself. Like, you know, 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: Denver being a talented enough team to be you have 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: six in a row, Like okay, Like it's not like 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: totally surprising, you know, but it's been tough. It's been 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: a lot of last second, it's been a lot of 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: game on the line, do you make the player not? 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: There's been a lot of defense, you know, And I 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: think as the Broncos have sort of remade their roster, 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: and you know, we've talked about this, but like I 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: don't know that the offense is you know, as high 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: powered as it's probably going to eventually be This is 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: a defense first team with you know, mostly pretty good 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: special teams, and you know, I thought that was a 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: tough win, a well deserved win against a probably pretty 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 4: underrated Texans team. He's you know, Sean Payton and his coaches, 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: especially Vance Joseph, are you know, really really pushing all 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: the right buttons? 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 5: So Ian obviously everyone watched the game last night, the 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: Seattle Washington game, and Jane Dames suffers the injury. And 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 5: when you think about dan Quinn, he's been taking a 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 5: lot of firing brimstone today. 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: Well you saw that injury. 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: Were you one of the individuals that possibly said, well, 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 5: maybe he should have taken him out before that injury? 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 6: You know, I sort of was. 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: Because I feel like I cover injuries for a living, 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: you know, so you know, anytime the game is no 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: longer a doubt, I'm always like, get the guys out 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: because I just I don't see the upside. 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: Now. 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: If you're dan Quinn, who, by the way, did you 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: know take the blame for this today said it was 44 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 4: one hundred percent that you know, he blew it, and 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 4: you know he wanted to get something positive before before 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 4: the game ended. I understand that. I mean, he's got 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: different things to think about that I do. It was just, 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: you know, the overall result was just so dramatically bad 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: that it's just hard to fathom. So, you know, it's 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: been a unbelievably forgettable season for the Commanders, you know, 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 4: really the opposite of last year. Last year everything went 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 4: as good as possible. This year it's solving as bad 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: as possible. And I thought that really put the capra 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: on it. Last night. 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: We got the trade deadline in less than twenty four hours. 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Of course, the Jalen Phillip Steel got done earlier today. 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 58 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure you get asked all this all the time. 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: What's on the horizon here? Are you hearing any rumblings 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: of some stuff coming up, maybe even including the Broncos. 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything involved in the Broncos, you know, 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: I know they were looking for a blocking tight end 63 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: and then they signed Mercedes Lewis and actually, like you know, 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: if you've fallen along close, so you could see that's 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: already paying some dividends, especially run game wise, and you know, 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: I don't, judging from what's available, I don't really get 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: the sense it'll be overly active. You know, like there 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: are some names, but how many names are really good 69 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: enough to make a dent? You know, probably a few, 70 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: but not that many that would be that would do 71 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: what I would say. So I think we'll see some. 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: I don't know that Denver is going to do any 73 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: And you know, if you're if you're a team that 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: wants to build it the right way, giving up you know, 75 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: fourth and fifth round draft picks for aging veterans who 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: are going to leave their team. I just don't know 77 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: that that's like what you're trying to do, honestly. 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: So with the Packers losing Tucker Kraft or a tight end, 79 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 5: and I know we're talking about, you know, trades. We 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 5: know the tight end is an integral part of what 81 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: Michael Floyd. 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: Wants to do with that Packers' offense. 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: But you think that there could be a trade where 84 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: the Packers look to bring in another tight end opposite 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 5: Luke Muskgrave. 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: You know, I've looked at this and I've talked to 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: people about it. 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 6: Two problems. 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 4: One is like I don't know who that is, you know, 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: like is it David and Joku? Like he's expensive and 91 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 4: he's a rental But like the biggest issue is if 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 4: you're the Packers and you gave up, you know, so 93 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: many draft picks for Micah Parsons, do you want to 94 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: give up more? You know, do you want to say, 95 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: all right, we're going all in or do you want 96 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 4: to just say, you know what, let's trust our team, 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: let's trust our program, trust our GM and just you're 98 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 4: relying the guys we have. I mean, injuries suck. I 99 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 4: hate it for them. This is a bad one because 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: he's a really, really really good young player. I just 101 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: don't know where they go to replace him on someone 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: else's roster. 103 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Joe Walt another one, really tough injury 104 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: there for the Chargers. You know, I've lost both their tackles. 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Do you think they might be a little more active 106 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: for offensive line considering the situation they find themselves in. 107 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: You know again, I just don't know who. Yeah, like 108 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: nobody is trading good offensive linemen. It's like it's funny because, like, 109 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: you know, maybe besides quarterback, I think offensive linemen might 110 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 4: be like the least likely to get traded. They're just 111 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: so hard. Even if you're a team that has an 112 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: offensive lineman, you only kind of like you're still sort 113 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 4: of like, oh man, I don't want to trade this 114 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 4: guy because like I might have to play him, you know. 115 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: So it's like there's that all over the league, and 116 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 4: that's what's crazy. So I don't know, I mean, it's 117 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: really it's it's really tough if you're the Chargers and 118 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: you're like, all right, I got to replace this guy 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 4: because like I don't know where it comes. It comes 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 4: in scheme and it comes in depth. But you know, 121 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: I would say that's that's a really rough one for 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: the Chargers of the team that you know, seems like 123 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: it's playoff bound and seems to have a lot going 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: for it. 125 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 5: Ian how would you describe, I guess the resurgence of 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 5: now Seattle quarterback Sam Donald. 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I would say we've actually seen this before. 128 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm like fascinated by this, and you know, not just 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: because I talk about quarterbacks a lot, but because like 130 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: he was a failure in a couple of different places, 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 4: got in the right system, got great coaching, flourished and 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: then even though he flourished last year with the Vikings, 133 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 4: a lot of people, including the Raiders, were still like, yeah, 134 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 4: I don't know who his feeling is, and I'm sort 135 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: of like, aren't we seeing it? Like he was so 136 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 4: good last night, and it really makes me wonder about 137 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: all these quarterbacks that we give up on. It's like, oh, 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: this guy sucks. This guy sucks, like Mac Jones, ah 139 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: backup for the Jaguars forty nine ers backup, he's not 140 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: very good. Well, he's played really good for an injury 141 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: ravage team. Like my guest, is will get traded and 142 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: get some money next year. So like I've seen it before, 143 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: we saw with Baker as another great example, Baker's canna 144 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: end up making you know, one hundred and fifty million 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 4: dollars or something like that after everyone gave up on him. 146 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: That's amazing, and I think it really should inform all 147 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: of our conclusions that we make about these quarterbacks, because like, 148 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: we shouldn't give up on a lot of these guys. 149 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: One hundred percent agree, Ian always great man. We will 150 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: check in with you next week, all right, look forward 151 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: to our guys. 152 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: Take care. 153 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate it you and wrap up on our NFL 154 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 1: Network Insider and uh yeah, there's a I completely agree. 155 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: We oftentimes do give up on these quarterbacks and then 156 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: they have a research and somewhere else. And I mean 157 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: this is why I was making an argument for Mac 158 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: Jones here. But you think about, you know, the quarterbacks 159 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: that Sean Payton has worked with, They've had chances to 160 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: bounce around the league as well. And Zach Wilson, for example, 161 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: might end up having a chance down there in Miami. 162 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Who knows. 163 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: But at least you got paid more money as a 164 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: result of being here with Sean. 165 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, he as. And I think when you look at 166 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: certain coaches, and Sean being one of those guys, especially 167 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: when it comes to quarterbacks, you always look to see, okay, well, 168 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 5: what quarterbacks had that particular officeive coordinator developed, And when 169 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: you think about Sean Payton, one quarterback that would always 170 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: be forever linked to him for the obvious reason is 171 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 5: Drew Brees. And this is why this whole thing with 172 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: bo Nicks is so vital and so important because it 173 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 5: would establish Sean's ability to actually develop another quarterback. 174 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Checked in with Ortho Colorado is doctor Michael Ellman joining 175 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: us here. Brought to you by Ortho Colorado Hospital, part 176 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: of Common Spirit Health. Go to Orthocolorado dot org. Good afternoon, 177 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: doctor Ellman. 178 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 6: How are you I'm doing great, Hey, thanks for having 179 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 6: me on guys. 180 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: Yes, we really appreciate the time. So let's start with 181 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: Pastor tan As. The Broncos are opting, not at least 182 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: right now, to put him on IR, and I think 183 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: that he would be on IR at this point if 184 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: it was. 185 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: Going to be the case. 186 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: So what does that do for the prognosis and recovery 187 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: based on the injury as you know it? 188 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean obviously it's a good sign. If he's 189 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 6: not putting them on you put somebody on IR at 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 6: at least four games. I think that the Broncos schedule 191 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 6: had something to play with this. You know, he's got 192 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 6: about a four to six week injury in general general 193 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 6: with these pec muscle tenantis strains, and so if you're 194 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 6: thinking about optimistically here with Pat, if we can get 195 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: him back, you know at the at the four week mark, 196 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 6: you're looking at, you know, two to three more weeks 197 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 6: here and then a bye week after the bye week, 198 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 6: I think that's the goal to get him back at 199 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 6: that point. 200 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 5: The Commanders have been decimated by injuries right now. They 201 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: are three and six. 202 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 6: Now. 203 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 5: We watched Jane Daniels lie on the ground and as 204 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 5: being said that he had a dislocated elbow. How does 205 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 5: that affect the fact his growing but more employee. 206 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: What do you think the time for return would be 207 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: for Jane Daines? 208 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question. Guys. The you know, it's 209 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 6: pretty gruesome injury. If you guys saw it, I'm sure 210 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 6: a lot of people have seen it by now. Uh, 211 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 6: you know, your elbows shouldn't be aligning the ninety degrees 212 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 6: towards towards, you know, away from the normal plane of motion. 213 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 6: So he clearly dislocated his elbow. The question really becomes 214 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 6: is this as simple or is this a complex dislocation? 215 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 6: What we mean by that? If it's simple and it's 216 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 6: just ligament damage and elbow and and the bones are dislocated, 217 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 6: but once you put them back into place, the human 218 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 6: process can begin. Those we generally treat conservatively and and 219 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 6: page and players can get back usually within four to 220 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 6: six weeks. It's kind of the most optimistic prognosis for 221 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 6: Jaden if there's if there's you know a lot of 222 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 6: it's gonna be depending on the imaging that he had today, 223 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 6: whether or not there's bony involvement, you know, soft tissue, skin, nerve, artery, 224 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 6: et cetera. If if any of that is involved becomes 225 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: more of a complex situation, uh, and you likely a 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 6: season ender for him. The good news for him is 227 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 6: his non throwing arm right, so he's a he's a 228 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 6: writy and this is a left arm. And so you know, 229 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: ideally if he gets back forward to six weeks with 230 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 6: an elbow brace with the simple dislocation, he can get back. 231 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 6: But you know, the Commanders are going to have to 232 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 6: make a lot of decisions here depending on the course 233 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 6: of their season and how it's going with regards to 234 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 6: a risk benefit analysis of getting him back. 235 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: Last one I have for you here Joe Alt, the 236 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: very talented offensive tackle. Therefore, the LA Chargers is going 237 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: to have season ending ankle surgery for a high right 238 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: ankle sprain. And most of the time with high ankle sprains, 239 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they can be severe, but's usually 240 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: it's rest. Why would you need surgery in this case? 241 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, great question. So the you know, the the high 242 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 6: ankle sprain of the different animals and the low ankle spring. 243 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 6: The high ankle sprain involves what we called the sindismosis, 244 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 6: which is a very stick ligament that connects our tibia 245 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 6: to a fibula the two lower bones in our lower leg. 246 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 6: And in his case, he had a high inkle sprain 247 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 6: about a month, probably six weeks ago. That was his 248 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 6: initial injury this year, and he sat for three to 249 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 6: four weeks. He came back and now he reinjured it. 250 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 6: So clearly it's his ligament's way of saying that it's 251 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 6: just not nearly as strong and stable enough to support 252 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 6: him through the rest of this year. So usually if 253 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 6: somebody fails a course of non operative treatment or they 254 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 6: come back and they re injure, that's when we're looking 255 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 6: at surgical intervention to fix it, stabilize it with you 256 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: know what we call a tightrope, which is kind of 257 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 6: this fancy rope type device that connects the tibia to 258 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 6: the stibula, allows that thing to scar in and heal 259 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 6: and get him back to one hundred percent hopefully by 260 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. 261 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: Really appreciate the time, doctor Elman. 262 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 263 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 6: Absolutely thanks for having me guys. You guys have a 264 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 6: good one. 265 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: You two. 266 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: Doctor Michael Ellman with Ortho Colorado Hospital, part of Common 267 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: Spirit Health. 268 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: Go to Ortho Colorado dot org. 269 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: We'll come back and react to that we're gonna hear 270 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: from Tamiko Ryans as he was a bit of a 271 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: hypocrite when it came to the hit yesterday on his quarterback. 272 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: You'll hear the audio and we'll see if Nick Ferguson 273 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: is going to defend him like I think he will. 274 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 7: Shotgun for CJ. 275 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: Stroud, four man rush. 276 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 7: Stroud, pockastars to collapse and he one scrum straight ahead, 277 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 7: then takes a big shot and here's a penalty flag. 278 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 7: Chris Abrams drain on the tackle. Stroud is on his back. 279 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 7: He went feet first. It's a gain of six, so 280 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 7: it would not be a first down. But you've got 281 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 7: the Houston offensive linemen that are upset with Chris Abrams drain. 282 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: Betty Fowler is due. What's a belly? What's going on? 283 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 6: Guys? 284 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: How you guys doing. 285 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: We're doing greats, We're doing great. You got here just 286 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: in time. Oh, just get to it. 287 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: Let's get to it. 288 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: So that was the call yesterday here on the Broncos 289 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: Radio network right here on K Way, And just just 290 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: for fun, because we like to do this, we like 291 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: to play both sides of a call. Here was the 292 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Houston Texans call of the hits on CJ. Stroud. 293 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: Here's Stroud take it to snap. Here's pressures. J. Scrambley 294 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 3: pulled CJ. Rostill run and he slap. 295 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 8: At the thirty one, he got tagged and here comes 296 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 8: the flag of Scroud is still down. That was brutal 297 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 8: and it wasn't single to make it a hit. It 298 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 8: was Chris Abrams drain with the tag on CJ. 299 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: As he was going down. That was nasty. 300 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 8: There is some not pushing and shoving, but a lot 301 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 8: of talking and close contact between Texans old lineman and 302 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 8: the Denver Broncos because that was late and unnecessary. 303 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Mm late and unnecessary, he says Mark Vandermer, Texas Radio 304 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six'. Ten so that was the hits 305 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: after the, game, well and get your take on all 306 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: of it after the. 307 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: Game Here's Demiko ryans on that HIT. 308 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: Cj. 309 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 9: Scramble of course he tried to he slid and the 310 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 9: guy you know came up and hit him AS i 311 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 9: see his unnecessary, roughness and he hit the quarterback when 312 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 9: he's sliding and giving himself. 313 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: Up If i'm. 314 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 9: Incorrect on the, Rules i've seen that happen multiple, times you, 315 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 9: know with our guys and we get the, penalty but 316 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 9: for some reason it's just didn't didn't happen, There so m. 317 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Now Debika ryan's last year When azi's, aushaer very talented, 318 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: linebacker big fan other than you, know when he tried 319 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: to Kill Trevor. Lawrence here's what he said last year 320 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: after that. 321 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 9: Hit you stand behind disease and everything you know that 322 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 9: came from. 323 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: There of, course he unfortunately hit on the. 324 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 9: Quarterback, unfortunate but it's also it's his, twofold. RIGHT i, 325 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 9: mean a lot of the quarterbacks in this day and, 326 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 9: age they trying to take advantage of the. 327 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: Rule they slide late and they try to get an extra. 328 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: Yard and now you're a. 329 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 9: DEFENDER a lot of onners is on the, defender, right 330 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 9: whether it's on the sideline or where it's on the. 331 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 9: Quarterback you don't know what a guy's. Thinking you don't 332 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 9: know if a guy is standing up and he's continuing to, 333 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 9: run you don't. Know and then you get a late 334 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 9: slide and you're you, know you hit the. Guy unfortunately 335 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 9: That trevor got. Hurt we want to Help, trevor is, 336 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 9: Okay but it's also if we're, sliding we have to get. 337 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: Down right getting out of. Bounds we get out of, 338 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: bounds and that rule is there. 339 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: To protect the quarterbacks, exactly our quarterbacks. 340 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: To be safe in the. 341 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 9: League so we just have to be safe if we're, 342 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 9: sliding make sure we're keeping our heads. Down so and 343 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 9: the entire thing, is you, know au these hits the, 344 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 9: guy but their sideline overreacts and it turns out and 345 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 9: turns into a. Melee it wasn't our, guys it's their 346 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 9: team overreacted from the star. Guy he's dragging our guys 347 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 9: to the. Sideline so that's uncalled for on that. Side 348 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 9: we have to be better on the sidelines as well 349 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 9: with both. 350 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: Teams come, on, man we can start right. There he's 351 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: got a three game. 352 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Suspension he tried to Kill Trevor. 353 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Lawrence, okay come, on, Man. 354 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 5: There's a number of things to break down in this, 355 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 5: plight And i'll start with the last thing That damiko 356 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 5: O'Ryan said about the play last year On iger And Trevor. 357 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: Lawrence and as a defensive, player you need that quarterback 358 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 5: to slide a lot. Earlier, now our ger his issue 359 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 5: was that it was a forearm and he made contact 360 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 5: to the head and neck. Area that became the issue 361 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 5: as far as while the flag was thrown and the 362 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 5: penalty was SO i guess large for. 363 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Him now What. 364 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 5: Dimko said about the fact that the melee and how it, 365 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: Started he's actually. Right if you go back and watch, 366 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 5: it and you know who was the guy who the 367 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 5: first guy who kind of pushed down On iger's, Back Evan. 368 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 5: Ingram he was the guy who did, it and then 369 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: they pulled him to the sideline where the melee actually. Started, 370 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 5: now this kind of fast forward to the play With 371 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 5: Chris Abrams. Dram, now the, league based on that particular, 372 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: play had specified. Rules once the quarterback go into a 373 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 5: slide heat, first it doesn't make the difference where he 374 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: slides where the defender. 375 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 3: Is he's initially giving up. 376 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 5: Himself it's unfortunately That Chris Abrams draine found himself in that. 377 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: Position but if you go back and watch, it you 378 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 5: can SEE. C. J, Shroud he's looking At Alex singleton 379 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: who's coming at, him and then he goes to slide 380 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 5: and just Unfortunately chris Abrams drain is right. There it 381 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 5: seems as though he's trying to lay off, him but he, 382 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: can't so he doesn't hit him in the, head he 383 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 5: hits him in his, side and that momentum puts him 384 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 5: into the turf where his head hits the, turf causing a. 385 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 5: Concussion because once, again look At Chris Abrams draine's. ANGLE 386 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: i think about intention as a defensive, player AND i 387 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 5: look At Alex singleton. Intention they're all going, low, Right 388 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 5: so it happens to be somewhat of a bang bang. 389 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 5: Plays kind of unfortunate that C. J stroud found himself 390 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 5: in that. Situation But i'm thinking there was no. Penalty 391 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: there's not going to be a suspicion because there was 392 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: no hit hit in neck. 393 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: Area but you said it was unnecessary for the. Show 394 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: you said that it was it should have been a. 395 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: Foul i'd just say it was on this you said 396 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: before the. 397 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: Show you said it should have been a. 398 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: FOUL i did not say. That there's there's no. 399 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: Record what are we? Doing this definition of is. 400 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: Here i'm just saying you did not hear me say. 401 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: THAT i just gave you my explanation of the. PLAY 402 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: i love. It you just heard WHAT i just. 403 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Said great, explanation, Right AND i, think, YEAH i think 404 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: you did, it and you said it and you broke. 405 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: It down really, Well Demita RYAN'S i definitely want him. 406 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: To we need to find a way to send that 407 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: clip of what happened last year back to him and 408 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: see what he thinks about it. Now but FOR Cj, 409 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: shroud give yourself up. Earlier you make, it make it very, 410 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: clear make it very, clear and THEN i think things 411 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: like that don't. Happen but he kind of wanted to 412 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: lower his, shoulder and then he also tried to think about. 413 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: Sliding he ended up, sliding and so the defenders don't 414 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: know what to. Do and also at the same, time 415 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: us being for The broncos and wanting to see The broncos, 416 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: win that kind of sends a message Which i'm okay. 417 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: With you, know you don't want to see C Aja 418 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: shroud with a, Concussion but, Hey i've been on and 419 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: seeing these types of defenses. 420 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: Where you send a message this is what type of 421 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: game it's going to. Be it's going to be. Physical 422 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: Dre greenlaw set in the. Tone who? 423 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Funkus set in the tone throughout the entire. Game So 424 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Chris ABMs, Drained hey what is? 425 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: He? 426 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: Wait one sixty? Five, like come, on, like what are 427 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: we talking about? Here see for, Me, well, said, well Said, 428 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: benny of, course and it, did and it did feel 429 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: like he got stuck in. Between there was a moment 430 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: WITH cj where it couldn't you couldn't really tell what 431 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: he was trying to. 432 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: Do he, no, no you, know he. COULDN'T i didn't 433 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: know if he was going if he was gonna. 434 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 4: DIVE i didn't know if. 435 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: He was going shoulder dive right, there right, there right. 436 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: There but if you go back to that right, there. 437 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: If you go back to, that if you go back 438 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: to the start of that clip right, there it looks 439 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: like he wants to go shoulder, first and then he 440 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: changes to. 441 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: Sliding, no he he's running. Right, well, okay he has a. 442 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: Rule this is why they picked if you go head, first. 443 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: You had the mercy of the. Defense i'll take you. 444 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 5: Back The broncos are playing The. Raiders Jimmy garoppolo goes head. First, 445 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 5: no he slid. Right and then it Was Justine simmons 446 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 5: who hit. It But Justin simmons didn't hit him with his. 447 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 5: Forearm Justice, simmons like nea something caught it, right and 448 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: that became somewhat of a problem in this particular. Play 449 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: he didn't J stroud didn't go head. First he was 450 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: starting to. Slide if you wanted to say that he 451 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 5: was sliding a little too, Late i'm with. You but 452 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 5: the idea of that he was confused that he was 453 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: about to go show the first and. 454 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: He DECIDED i THINK i THINK i think he was 455 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: confused because C. J stroud is a very smart quarterback 456 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: and we've seen him slide plenty of time ahead of, 457 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: time so he didn't know what he wanted to do right. 458 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 6: THERE. 459 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: Cj shroud knows better than. 460 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: That he thought he could actually pick up the first, 461 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: down and that's the reason why. 462 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: That's hit like that. 463 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 5: Slide he's sliding into home. Plate we've, Seen you've seen C. 464 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: J stroud slide way better than. 465 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 5: That AND i, KNOW i Know ryan opened the door for. 466 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: You did he slip slip you a? 467 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: Five, Listen come, On. 468 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Benny benny is wise and he's a Super bowl. Champion 469 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: you gave me this as a freebe because before the 470 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: show started you were defending the play as Though cad 471 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: should have been, penalized and even though they re viewed, 472 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: it WHAT. 473 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: I said to you was that as a, defender knowing what. 474 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 5: The rules, are you cannot put yourself in that, position 475 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: because the favor is always going to go to the 476 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: office of, guy especially at the. 477 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: Quarterback, now if that had been fifteen wearing a rich, 478 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: oh absolutely that. 479 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: Probably would have Suspended Chris abrasdrain And Alex, singleton right 480 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: if that Was Patrick. 481 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: Mahomes now come, on, MAN i, mean you, Know Patrick 482 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: mahomes gets a lot of. 483 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: Calls of, course when you, win you get whatever you. 484 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: Want and Like i'm, saying If Chris abrasin happens to 485 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 5: a guy. 486 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: Like, Mahomes mahomes is gonna Either mahomes is gonna lower 487 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: his shoulder if he Sees chris abrams, drain he might 488 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: try to lower the. 489 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: Shoulder he pick and chooses his battles. WISELY i THINK. 490 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Cj shroud is a very smart and heady, player AND 491 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: i think right there he was just. 492 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: Caught in no man's. 493 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: Land he didn't know what he actually wanted to what 494 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: he wanted to happen right, there BECAUSE i think initially 495 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: when he first started to, scramble he thought he could 496 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: get the first down See. 497 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: Singleton. 498 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: You, know and then he's, like DO i die just 499 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: shoulder first and try to get the first, down and 500 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: then let me actually make the wise, decision which is 501 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: actually to slide and Then Chris abrams. 502 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: Drain it just happens To they happened to hit each 503 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: other at the same. 504 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: Time that's fun hit the same. Time here's What i'll, 505 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: say and the. 506 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: Text line also agrees with ours. 507 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 3: Well and that means absolutely. 508 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: Said he definitely looked like he was going for the first, 509 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: down AND i was surprised when he slid BECAUSE i 510 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: think he saw a. Way he saw an. 511 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: Obstruction it Was Alex, singleton so he started to. 512 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: Slide here's was already already in tackling form when he 513 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: was getting ready to see. 514 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: Him he didn't See Chris abrams drain because he's looking. 515 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: Forward look at the. Video you can look at. 516 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 5: Them i'll show you video doing the, break and you 517 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 5: guys can, judge even THOUGH i don't think you guys 518 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 5: are gonna change your. 519 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: Mind but here's a whole overall, picture. 520 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 5: Right the whole thing is the league needs to do 521 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 5: a better job of informing. Quarterbacks, hey if you want 522 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 5: to make that, decision we need you to slide early 523 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: because if we, don't we run the risk of you 524 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: getting injured and the possibility of a defender trying to protect. 525 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: You, now if that's, Me i'm not hurting. Myself. Right 526 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: we had a rule. 527 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 5: WHEN i play, defensively it is get down to lay, 528 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 5: Down So i'm taking. 529 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: Fifteen i'm just telling you that that's the whole. 530 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: Idea the league has already done a great job of 531 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: informing the, quarterbacks and you, know they're taking it into 532 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: their own. Hands and you, know guys Like mahomes are 533 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: trying to take advantage of these rules and on the 534 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: sideline and things like, that and defenders are now they're 535 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: not going for that. Anymore they're taking all the gray 536 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: area out of. It and we live with the fifteen yard. 537 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Penalty so even if there was a fifteen yard, penalty 538 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: you live with. 539 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: It, hey this is what type of game it's going to. 540 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Be you even saw it on a few plays or 541 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: a few plays before that When Nico collins caught the 542 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: ball over the middle and the Way Brandon jones like, 543 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: this what? 544 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: Type this is the type of game we're going to be. 545 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: On so Should Chris adams drain get a game? 546 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 5: Ball the defense would get a Game should he get 547 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 5: a game ball for you know for. 548 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: That, no we don't need any, bounty no, body no, 549 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: boundy get no. ONE i say game ball, BOUNTY i 550 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: mean game ball Game you say like a one hundred 551 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: dollars bill attached to the ball or something like. 552 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: That, Now, WIZ i didn't utter those. Words never came 553 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: out of my. Life there's a. Situation, YEAH i just, 554 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: say should he get a game? Ball that's ALL i. Said, 555 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: man you put on. 556 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: That salmon hoodie and you wild you're you're a. 557 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: Translator you know Your rosetta stone isn't working right now 558 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 5: because it's not really translating What i'm. 559 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: SAYING i don't think anybody understands what you're saying the 560 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: text side Playing Bitty. 561 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: Fowler but, hey, listen. 562 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: LISTEN I i appreciate your expertise as A. dB you 563 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: just happen to be wrong in this. Game, so, Uh, 564 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: HOUSTON i want to play this. Last this is the final. 565 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: Call so we heard The broncos call just for. Fun 566 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: well this is just a good. Stuff and THEN i 567 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on the offense and why 568 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: are ys panicking about? It but here is the final 569 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: call of the. Game this is the will let's field. 570 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 10: Goal let's steps twice to the left and, Says i'm 571 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 10: ready to. Go snap, placement kick on the, way it is. 572 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 10: Good penalty flagged. Down, well that's a defensive offside. 573 00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: Penalty that's to. 574 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: Do And denver has come To houston and beaten. 575 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 10: The texans by a final score of eighteen to. 576 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: Fifteen doesn't get. Old here is The Houston texans called 577 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: the same play Lux. 578 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 8: We'll try for the way and thirty four yards out 579 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 8: left Tash mark south end zelling up. Rights here's the, 580 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 8: snap here's the, spot here's the. 581 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: Kick it's. Up it's. 582 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 8: Good The texans fault At tedver eighteen. 583 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: Fifteen it's. Good it's. 584 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: Over it's Over mark Van, Verer. Texas that's, fourth three 585 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: to sixth did, ah so? 586 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: Good so? 587 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: Good all, Right so we're talking about in the break 588 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: for a couple of, minutes you AND i are seeing things, 589 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: similar not only in this thing That nick AND i 590 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: don't see similar on does not have been in here to. 591 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: Agree with my, Points. 592 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: BUT i did not think it was as bad a 593 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: performance for the offense as people Like nick are making 594 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: a sound what do you? Think i'm right there with, 595 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: you and just based off of watching the game last, 596 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: night off the all twenty two and then watching it 597 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: some more this. Morning, LOOK i think there are plenty 598 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: of plays out there to be made from bow, specifically 599 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: and then also the receiving. Corps this is when offenses 600 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: are really. Good when you think about the offenses that 601 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: have been really good here In, denver the quarterbacks had 602 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: a hand in, it the offensive, line the running, backs 603 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: and the. Receivers when the offenses are really bad, here 604 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: everybody's got everybody's got a hand in. It AND i 605 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: Think bo made some great, throws AND i think he 606 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: thought he missed. Some AND i thought the receivers had 607 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: opportunities yesterday to make big plays AND i think they 608 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: didn't come up. Sometimes and then ALSO i think the 609 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: offensive line there were times where they missed. Blocks so 610 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: and then there's some things on the coaching staff where 611 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: there are certain pressures that The Houston texans are. Running 612 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: they're running these different blitzes And bo doesn't know where 613 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: the hots are or it looks like the receivers don't 614 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: know are they hot or. Not AND i think that's 615 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that's a coaching error to, me 616 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: is how are we coaching these things. Up there was 617 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: a couple of blitzes where they blitzed from the left hand. 618 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: SIDE. 619 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: Rj harvey is actually wide open in the flat bow misses, 620 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: them so clearly not ready for that. Pressure they run 621 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: the same pressure again and The broncos are running a 622 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: drive concept which is a shallow and a twelve yard 623 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: basic breaking in the shallow runner should know that he's, 624 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: hot so you're supposed to be peeking right then and 625 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: there those are little things right there that are also being. 626 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: Missed SO i think everybody has a hand. 627 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: In when the offense is playing well like how they 628 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: played last week and putting forty four points up against The, 629 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: cowboys and then when you think about, this, look there 630 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: are opportunities out there for guys to make, plays and 631 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you made them and sometimes you. Didn't WHAT i 632 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: do have to say is that this was the number 633 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: one defense in the league, statistically and when you needed, 634 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: plays you made. Them so that's something that you can't 635 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: hang your hat. 636 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: On you. 637 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: Know this is they got a really good, secondary they 638 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: got an incredible pass, Rush so WHEN i look at, 639 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: it there's plenty of opportunities out there and it's definitely 640 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: not as bad as people might. Seem but you would 641 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: have to see and understand and look at. 642 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: It from a different. 643 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: Angle you cannot watch A tv copy and see What 644 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: i'm talking about right. 645 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: Now you have to watch the coaches. Table and that's 646 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: WHAT i saw from the. 647 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 5: GAME i know when a hot light blan it can 648 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 5: only mean one. Thing little lyrics From drake to go 649 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 5: with this situation when we're talking about reading the hot, 650 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: right because being is, right you know you're going to 651 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 5: get an enormous amount of blitzes from opposing. Defense it 652 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: started in the preseason when we, saw you, know the 653 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 5: forty nine ers do, it and The broncos struggle with. 654 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: That they still struggle with. 655 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: Picking up that blitz and having someone be the hot 656 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: and being's right once. 657 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: Again AND i go back to, THAT i said this 658 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: thing is right. Once, no, no, NO i said this to, 659 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: you but you wanted to shape and form like you, 660 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: KNOW i was the one with the. Problem when you 661 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: look at This broncos. Offense everything he talked, about from 662 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: the route. 663 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: Running the you, know the guys running the, hots the, 664 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: scheme all of. It at this stage of the game 665 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 5: where we, are we're not seeing a massive improvement where 666 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: we're saying offensively going as any game The broncos are 667 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: going to. Dominate that's the thought, process that's the. Mindset 668 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 5: but once we actually sit on the, field it's not. 669 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: Computing the only thing that's. 670 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: Computing is what we're seeing, defensively and we need to 671 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 5: see some improvement from the. 672 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: Offense it has to be a game. 673 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 5: Not against a defense that's ranked the bottom IN, nfl 674 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 5: not The dallas, defense not The jets, defense and not 675 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 5: The bengals, defense where The broncos can win the game 676 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: all of offensive. Effort we have yet to see that. 677 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: HAPPEN i don't think we'll see that, though from against 678 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: a good. Team and you Know bose in year two And, 679 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: NICK i would kind of JUST i want to throw 680 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: it back to you of you know you and year 681 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: two of your, career like how did you field and 682 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: your position in like how you were, playing BECAUSE i 683 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: know a year, TWO i was still learning a tremendous. 684 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: AMOUNT i didn't feel LIKE i could go out. THERE 685 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: i DIDN'T i didn't. 686 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: UNDERSTAND i personally didn't understand enough in year two to have. 687 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: That AND i feel like bow being a quarterback in 688 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: year two of this, system like he still needs he 689 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: still needs. 690 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 5: Time well wait a, minute remember anytime someone brought up 691 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 5: a sophomore, slum it was, idea you cannot say that. 692 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: Word we know it happens with. Guys, YEAH i, mean. 693 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 5: Especially after you have a great rookie, season things are 694 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 5: going to, change right because people are going to depth 695 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 5: with you're saying what you're saying About. 696 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: Bo there's always a learning. 697 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 5: Curve you're always going to run into challenges and pitfalls 698 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 5: because everyone's going to. Adjust so know what you do 699 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 5: as a play. Caller you adjust the play calling to 700 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 5: fit that. Guy because we were told that AND i 701 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 5: truly believe this bow can process a lot of. Information 702 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 5: but what we learned from the fourth quarter of That 703 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 5: giants game is that is though he needs to be, 704 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: pressed that button needs to be pressed for him to 705 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 5: be in that position where he is processing information. 706 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: Fast very. 707 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 5: Quick diagnosing that means more of, Tempo, well we don't 708 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 5: really get. 709 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: That we don't really see. 710 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 5: That we see it only when the team is trailing 711 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 5: there behind guess when in the fourth, quarter not for 712 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 5: the first three. Quarters so why can that change to 713 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 5: Put bowl in an advertanger's position where he can play 714 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: with more up tempo so he's processing information quickly. 715 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: Because he's gonna have to win from the pocket In. 716 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: January AND i Think sean right now knows that he 717 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: can keep these games close because you have an incredible. 718 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: Defense you know, What i'm gonna teach you. 719 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: How i'm gonna teach. 720 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: You how to play incredible. 721 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: Defense i'm gonna teach you how to PLAY nfl. 722 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Quarterback and, LOOK i know you can run and in 723 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when we need, it and in the 724 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: games on the, line we'll go to. That but right, 725 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: now we're gonna teach you how to read. Progressions brady 726 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of weeks. AGO i forgot 727 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: WHERE i saw the, interview but he talked about how 728 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: he would watch film With belichick in his first FOUR 729 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: i mean when the playoff run that they went on 730 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: the First Super. Bowl he threw no touchdowns in the, 731 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: postseason but he was really learning how to play. Quarterback 732 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: so how do we now put that mindset Into broncos 733 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: country of, like, Hey bo's learning how to play. Quarterback and, 734 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: yeah we could go up, tempo or we could end 735 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: up with A Jaden daniels situation where he's always running 736 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: around and then he ends up getting. Hurt so how 737 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: about we teach him to play from the, pocket and 738 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: then you, know our defense is so good that they 739 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: can keep these games. Close and then when we need 740 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: to turn on the, athleticism we. 741 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 5: Will but The broncos win the game On sunday because 742 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 5: bo breaks all tendencies and decided to do the one 743 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: thing that he is highly skilled, at WHICH i think 744 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 5: kids should do more of and should be more in corporation. 745 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 5: Of is him running the. Ball AND i know individual 746 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 5: look at what happened To Jade daniels, said, well, NO 747 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: i want my quarterback to play from the. POCKET i 748 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 5: remember a couple of years ago The broncos Play Lamar, 749 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 5: jackson extraordinary. Talent you know, what he got hurt not. 750 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 5: Running he got hurt in the. Pocket so, ideas let 751 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 5: these guys be who they. Are they could keep your 752 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: your your your gloves on, him put your kids gloves on. 753 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: Him will allow those guys to explore a little of 754 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: their skill. Set and we're seeing this offense pretty much. 755 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: Explode if that, HAPPENS. 756 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: I think HE i think he. Is he takes the 757 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: gloves off in the fourth. Quarter you when you need to, 758 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: win that's it's not too. Late if you're, seven if 759 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: you're seven And. 760 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm just raising my hands with his, break that's ALL 761 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: i do the fourth quarters of. 762 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 5: FOOTBALL i know in the fourth quarter it seems really, 763 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: exciting but you should be. 764 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: Able to do that for fourth freaking. 765 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: Quarters, WELL i think if we go back and actually 766 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: look at quarters one through, three there are opportunities Where 767 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 1: bo missed AND i think you one hundred percent agree 768 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: with you whether he should extend the drive with his 769 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: legs and then you live to fight another, down which he's. 770 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 3: Trying he's trying to prove that he's a pocket. Passer 771 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 3: oh he. 772 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: IS i think he's trying to prove. IT i think he. 773 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: Is but like at the same, time, man these players 774 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: are schemed up and there are players wide, open. 775 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: SO i would like him to stay in the. 776 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: Pocket AND i was a, receiver So i'm not out 777 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: here running For, cardio and you don't want to now 778 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: have your young receivers out here running, Like, Oh bo's 779 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna drop back and he's gonna take. Off i'm not 780 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: even gonna run this route hard because we're getting ready 781 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: to a. Scramble. Drill, well right back With Betty Fowler 782 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion And Nick Ferguson Okay, way