1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: It was six. I think about Garro see the talk station. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, it is time. I always look forward to 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: this the Insight Scoop at breit Bart is and I 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: always start out the segment by saying, book mark the 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: page bright bartbr e I t b a art dot com. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: You'm be glad you did, because you'll get to read 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: from uh well, things that London Bureau Chief Oliver Laine 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: writes about, among others at breit Bart. Welcome back, Oliver Lane, 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: London Bureau Chief at breit Bart. Is a pleasure to 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: have you back on the show. My friend, Well, thank 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: you for inviting me. It's a great pleasure. Indeed, well, 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate it because yesterday Prime Minister Keir Starmer told 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: are set out loud he doesn't believe in regime change 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: from the Skies, defending his decision to not allow the 15 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: United States to use British bases for the initial wave 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of attacks on Iran. Then he kind of pivoted and said, 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: well US can have access to the basis for defensive 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: strikes in response to Iran's retaliatory tax. So I guess 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: as a quick point of order, I got to ask, 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: is someone keeping track and pointing out is there a 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: fundamental differference between offensive and defensive flights? Are you keeping 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: track of what airplane is being flown out of any 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: given UK air base that it is? Oh, that's a 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: defensive plane versus an offensive plane and sortie it just 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: seemed like, I don't know, maybe not even a distinction. 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: That's why we have you, Oliver Lane, what's going on 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: here with the United Kingdom's response to this military activity? 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, it's a very fine line there, and secure Starmer, 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister has not been a tall clear aspout 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: what exactly he meant about this, Because of course, if 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: you're talking about really purely defensive, that means putting up 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: what air interception fighters which have air towear missiles. They're 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: up there to take down drones, uranium fighters, missiles. But 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: as we know, not just from this conflict, but from 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: every other conflict in modern history Ukraine, etc. What's the 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: most effective, fool proof and cost effective way to stop 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: enemy missiles? Well, it's to take them out before they launch. 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: You take them out on the ground. True, So is 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: that in included in this deal? I suspect not, because 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: that's essentially what this whole package of strikes the President 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Trump and Israel launch over the weekend is about it's 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: about hitting these things on the ground before then get 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: in the air. And when you open there, you mentioned 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: about kised Arma, our wonderful left wing globalist prime minister 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: over here in the UK, and these comments he made 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: about what Trump was doing and saying that the UK 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: doesn't believe in regime change from the air, and it 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: was layering on the criticism and it's really only barely 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: below the surface, saying that the UK can't take military 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: action that it considers unlawful. What does that imply He 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: believes that the US action is unlawful, It can't take 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: action that's not thought through, doesn't have a conclusion in mind. 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: What does that imply, Well, it implies he believes that 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: President Trump is flying blind on this. He's just launched 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: the attack and has no endgame in mind. So, yeah, 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: this is I don't know if you want to call 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: it insulting. I don't know if you respect kiss Starmer 58 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: enough to think anything he says could possibly be insulting. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: But he's certainly trying to make clear what he thinks 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: about Trump, and it ain't a lot. 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Well, there's sort of half step, half measure using him 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: for defensive purposes. That sounds to me like he's trying 63 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: to have his cake and eat it too. Well, you know, 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna let use him for some things which maybe 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: appease the you know, the US government, or maybe is 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: or anybody else who's in favor of the conflict. But 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: there have been many suggestions, and I'm not bringing it 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: up as a unique thought myself, but that it may 69 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: be that Kers Starmer's struggling with the fact that you 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: have a very sizable Muslim population. We know that very well. 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: It's been building for years and years and years. I 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: mean how Elvis Costello wrote about it back in the 73 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: day London is full of Arabs, remember that from from 74 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: the song from Elvis Costello back in the day. Is 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: that the problem is he afraid of his the residents 76 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: of the UK that have a very substantial presidence in 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: the Muslim community and probably aren' in favor of what's 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: going on. 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for quoting on this, Corcello to mean that, 80 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: but a big spile on my face. You and I 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: don't need to make these points about is Starma trying 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: to appease a particular voting block in the UK. We 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: don't need to do that, because President Trump did it 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: for us this morning. He went out there and said 85 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: it pretty pretty clearly when he was spoke to a 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: British newspaper, the Sun, and said that he was like 87 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: very disappointed with the with Starmer and the UK. And actually, 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: if you look at the language that he used, I'm 89 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: going to read this quote out here in a second. 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear that President Trump is actually 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: shocked and upset by the degree to which Britain, which 92 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: is a country he clearly loves, has let him down. 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Now that this is a tragedy, because it's not really 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Britain that's leaving him down at all. It's a kiss Starmer, 95 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: our prime minister, who, by the way, is the least 96 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: popular British prime minister in the history of polling, in 97 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: the history of all data. He has the lowest opinionatium 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: any leader ever. So it's not like the British people 99 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: are standing four square behind him on this decision. But 100 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to read this quote out to you. President 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: Trump said, and I quote, I never thought i'd see that. 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: I never thought i'd see that from the UK. We 103 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: love the UK, and he said about Britain, it's also 104 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: not such a recognizable country. London is a very different 105 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: place with a terrible mayor. You have a terrible mayor 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: there some terrible people, but it's a very different place. 107 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: And this is when he was being asked by the 108 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: newspaper whether he thought that, as you said at the 109 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: beginning of the segment, you know, Starmer is essentially having 110 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: to appease a particular block of voters, and I think 111 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: that's absolutely right. So what I want to mention here 112 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: is we had a very important special election here just 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: last week Thursday last week, and this was in a 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: what you would call a true Labor heartland, a safe seat. 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: The Labor Party has been active in British politics for 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: about one hundred years, about a century early nineteen twenties. 117 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: This seat has been Labor for one hundred years. It 118 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: has won every single election there for a century. So 119 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: if they can't win there, they cannot win anywhere. That's 120 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: the point I'm trying to make. And guess what special 121 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: election last week Labor came third. This is our left 122 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: wing party smashed into third place, and by who, by 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: a pro Gaza, Pro Palestine, sectarian interest party who came first? 124 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: So wow. The situation we're in now is that for 125 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: decades the Labor Party has been the main political beneficiary 126 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: of Britain's policy of mass migration. People have come here 127 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: in great numbers. They've been converted into paper citizens, they 128 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: have been given their passports. Then they've got the vote, 129 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: to the right to vote, and who, generally speaking have 130 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: they voted for? The All the data we have shows 131 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: they have voted for the Labor Party. Labour has controlled 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: those votes, and particularly in Muslim communities, it's it's block voting, 133 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: which by the way, is illegal. But that's just one 134 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: of those things that we're too polite as Britain's to 135 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: talk about. And it goes on and on. But now 136 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: we're in a position, as we have seen from last week, 137 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: in this new era of British politics, of secretarian British politics, 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: those migrant communities are becoming more I guess, confident of themselves. 139 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: They know what they want and they're no longer content 140 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: to be controlled by Labor. They want their own party 141 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: which serves their own narrow interests. And it seems that 142 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: means the party that is willing to go furthest on 143 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: being pro Gaza, pro Palestine, as it was in this 144 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: case one week ago. That's the party that wins. So 145 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: when President Trump is looking at from the situation from 146 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: the outside, and he's going, well, Britain's our greatest ally. 147 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: We love Britain. I personally love Britain. Britain's always been 148 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: on our side. Why is Britain suddenly now not interested 149 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: in joining preemptive strikes in the Middle East? What conclusion 150 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: can he draw that he's afraid of his own voters. 151 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Wow, you're providing a nice cautionary tell for we here 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: in the United States of America who are facing a 153 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: similar being overrun by immigrants from foreign lands which you 154 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: do not share American values clearly, right? 155 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: May May I say something at this stage? I say 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: thing at the station I've been doing this job. How 157 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: long have I been here? Thirteen fourteen years? And this 158 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: is this something I always say when I have this 159 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: opportunity to speak from my rural idol in the countryside 160 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: in England. Because of course I've had to retreat here 161 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: because I cannot stand to live in London because it's 162 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: as prisident. Trump says, it's a very different town. And 163 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: this is the point I always make right, the great 164 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: benefit I bring to you, my American friends and cousins. 165 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: I am your crystal ball. What is happening here today 166 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: is what's coming for you in six months, six years, whatever. Okay, 167 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: this is the future. Pay attention. 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: It's already land in Minnesota. We're struggling with the Somali 169 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: community and the in various other ethnic or ethnic my 170 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: recent ethic mirgints who have congregated in the individual cities 171 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: and then elected politicians like Ileanomar who share their thoughts 172 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: and philosophies. But we can, and we currently are in 173 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: taking steps to stop the flow and hopefully keep our 174 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: own personal identity and real quick here we're struggling here 175 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: in the United States. We have a constitution that requires 176 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: Congress to declare war. But we also have a president 177 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: who is recharged in charge of and is the head 178 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: of the American military, and he directs military affairs, but 179 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: he also our commander in chief rather but he also 180 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: is responsible for foreign policy, and these things all overlap. 181 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,479 Speaker 1: Now in so far as ker Starmer, what is his authority? 182 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Can Parliament chime in on this and say no, no, no, 183 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: you got to play with the Americans more nice. So 184 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: we need to open up these air bases to allow 185 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: them for offensive and defensive strikes. Is there some opportunity 186 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: here for the United Kingdom to change directions in terms 187 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: of care Starmer's current stance on. 188 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: This great question. So obviously we don't have a written 189 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: constitution in the UK like you guys have in the US, 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of not case law as such, 191 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: But as center as a president built up here, I 192 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: believe the right to go to war is royal prerogative 193 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: and the King is advised by the Prime Minister. So 194 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: the King in Parliament is embodied there by the Prime Minister. 195 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: So if the Prime Minister wants to get to a war, 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: as far as we were, there's anything really that can 197 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: stop him, apart from unless Parliament gets so upset about 198 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: this that they have a vote no confidence in the 199 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: Prime minister bring down the government and that's that. So 200 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: what this means is in practice, if we know action 201 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: like this is coming, And a good example of this 202 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: is all this talk we're having at the moment about 203 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: a potential like Western Alliance of peacekeepers going to Ukraine. 204 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: So that's something we know that's on the horizon, and 205 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: as a way to keep Parliament on side, the Prime 206 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: Minister has already said if we do this, we'll give 207 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: you a parliament a vote on it first. But in 208 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: terms of the more immediate which is this business of 209 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: will Starmer won't he get involved with what's going on 210 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: in Iran? Actually this has nothing to do with parliament. 211 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: What this comes down to is this Sacre starmar Our 212 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: prime Minister is actually relatively new in politics. He's only 213 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: been in Parliament for like ten years or something. And 214 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: to have gone from being a newbie backbencher to being 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister of the UK so quickly, very unusual, 216 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: very impressive. And the reason for this is he's not 217 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: a career politician. He is a human rights lawyer, very 218 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: senior lawyer. Was actually the Director of Public Prosecutions, the 219 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: most senior prosecutor in the whole of the UK, and 220 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: that was his last job before he came into politics. 221 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: So he got sort of imported into the Labor Party 222 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: from this very important legal job. And as I say, 223 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: human rights lawyer, this guy is the world's number one 224 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: fan of international law. Is that he is the rules 225 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: based international orders like number one reply Guy, Okay, So 226 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: he absolutely is is dedicated to these concepts. And when 227 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: it comes to President Trump coming to the UK and saying, Okay, 228 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: we're going to launch these strikes, we need to use 229 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: British bases, I presume we have your permission because we 230 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: always have in the past. So Kis Starmer's not looking 231 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: at this from a position of what is the British 232 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: national interest? What's best for the world? You know, how 233 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: can I help an ally? Why do I really have 234 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: any good reason to say no? He's looking at it 235 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: from I've got my stack of United Nations law textbooks here, 236 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: and they say no, and ergo I must say no 237 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: because law is the most important thing in the world 238 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: to me. We are being ruled by a cabal of 239 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: lawyers and it is incredibly bad for this country. It 240 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: is damaging us on the world stage, and it is 241 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 2: destroying the special relationship. 242 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: So London Beuer Chief Oliver Lane, your comment earlier that 243 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: kir Starmer believes that our actions against Iran are unlawful. 244 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: You're referring to his perception of international law. Might they 245 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: pivot over and ask what cure Starmer's position is visa 246 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the Iran's atrocities over the years, murdering its own people, 247 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: and whether or not that too might buy a via 248 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: violation of international law, funding terrorist organizations who indiscriminately kill 249 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: people who enter Israel awfully and murder women, children, grandmothers, 250 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: burn babies. I mean, we could go on for hours 251 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: and hours. The articulated a position on any of those 252 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: things via international law exactly. So this is the contradictions 253 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: continue to roll on because we have the reports from 254 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: Britain's Foreign Intelligence Agency six, Internal Intelligence Agency m I five. 255 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: They are very clear that Iran is a threat. In fact, 256 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: in Parliament yesterday, when Sir Keir Starmer was trying to 257 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: build this case to explain to the British people why 258 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't being involved, he admitted that Iran had launched 259 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: twenty attempted terror attacks against people in Britain over the 260 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: past year alone, and every single one of those attacks 261 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: was intercepted and foiled by the intelligence agencies. Because, let's 262 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: be honest, one of the best things that Britain, one 263 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: of the best things in the world that Britain's do 264 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: is we're very good at being. 265 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: Spies with the nation of James Bond. So we're very 266 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: good at intercepting those terror attacks. That doesn't change the 267 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: fact they wanted to do them. They wanted to kill 268 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: those people. So he admitted that Britain is under attack 269 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: from Iran, and our intelligence agents have admitted that Iran 270 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: is the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world. 271 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: We are being attacked, our allies are being attacked. The 272 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: government admits this. And yet for sick Kstarma, no war 273 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: because the United Nations hasn't said it's okay. And to 274 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: him that's the most important thing. 275 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: Wow. And considering the body of the makeup of the 276 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: United Nations, I mean, how they have the countries along 277 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: the lines of Iran on the Human Rights Council, for 278 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: God's sake, it's a laughable entity and organization. It becomes 279 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: more and more pointless every year. And what more can 280 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: I say. I'm just I'm thankful we have a constitution 281 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: because you and your bunk are out there in the world, 282 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: somewhere in the United Kingdom. Oliver Lane, you can speak 283 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: your mind here on the fifty five KRC Morning Show, 284 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: and I based upon everything I've read, you might be 285 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: subject to arrest in your country for these words. 286 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: I pick my words very carefully and as we as 287 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: we all must in this country, which is a remarkable 288 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: situation to be in because we live in a time 289 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: where the police conduct dorn arrests, don arrest braids, for 290 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: speech crimes, for throwaway tweets, you know, these little pops 291 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: here and there of thought which will get you into 292 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: the inside of a prison cell. So you know, we 293 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: have to be careful, we have to be sensible because 294 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: if I'm on the inside of a prison cell, well 295 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: I can't keep updating what's happening in the world. 296 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: And you wouldn't be on the fifty five Kresy Morning Show, 297 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: which my listening audience I truly appreciate. We also appreciate 298 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: what everything that bright Bart's doing each and every day. 299 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Oliver Lane, London Bureau Chief, it is always a pleasure 300 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: to have you on the program. I look forward to 301 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: our discussions down the road again. And have a wonderful week, 302 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: my friend. Thanks for your time this morning. 303 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a busy week, but it's going to 304 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: be a good one. Thanks for having me on. 305 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: I hope you are right on the good part. Busy, 306 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: definitely