1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Station guaranteed Human Twin Cities for youse Talk. Hey, I'm 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: eleven thirty on FM one O three point five. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: Our three on Twin Cities News talking before we get 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: to our guest coming up in just a moment, Senate 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: candidate former submariner Tom Wyler running for US Senate. His 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: website Tom Wyler excuse me, Tom Wyler twenty twenty six 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: w E I L E E R Tom Wyler twenty 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: twenty six dot com. We'll talk to him in just 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: a moment. Before we do, I do want to get 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: to a few of your comments from the iHeartRadio app 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: on talkbacks from the first two hours of the show, 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: and of course if you missed any portion of the 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: show so far, be sure to go and listen to 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: the podcast download that On the iHeart Radio app. Talking 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: quite a bit about paid family medical lead, there was 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: a peace and American experiment from John Feelin asking the 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: question if there's going to be a payroll tax hike 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: needed later this year to pay for the fact that 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: the number of individuals that have come up with excuses 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: to take the paid family medical leave has increased dramatically. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Got a comment here from a friend of the show, 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Morney and John. Great show, Connie. 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: Why did more businesses in Minnesota fight paid family medical leave? 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't really understand the business community here. Thanks, I 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: have a great day. They did. 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: There were businesses that were fighting back. As a matter 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 2: of fact, a group of business leaders, prominent business leaders 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: came out I believe it was last year, and they 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: were requesting a pause in the implementation of the program 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: because of all of the problems that we've been highlighting 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: on the show. The Minnesota Chamber of Commerce coming out 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: this week saying that you already had sixty three hundred 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: of their businesses. 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: That provided this. 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: Eighty percent of those sixty sixty three hundred businesses provided 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: some form of pay family medical leave. People that are 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: taking this time off, but they're going on vacation and 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: they're going to music festivals. The business leaders did speak out, 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: but the Democrats didn't care. They ignored them, rammed it 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: through anyway. At the end of last hour, we were 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: talking about how Mayor Jacob Fry in Minneapolis vetoed the 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: extension giving a moratorium on evictions. We had city council 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: member Soren Stevenson, who looked just like the alternative artist 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 2: Moby very upset at the mayor for what he did. 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: Everyone in Minneapolis agrees our top priority right now is 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: to support our neighbors who were targeted and harassed by ice. 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: He's talking about people that were here illegally in committed crimes. 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: By the way, coming from someone who used to be 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: a landlord. 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: When people fall behind on. 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: Their rent, they rarely ever get cop backed up. 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: It happens, but it's rare. 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: How can MOBI condemn profits when that's what the state 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: takes pride in taxing. 55 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Hey buddy, everyone makes a profit. 56 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 6: Everyone cares about their profit because they got to use 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 6: their profits to pay their bills. What an idiot? 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: Hey, why ain't those people just go get their own 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: businesses or get their own rental property and give it 60 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: all the way free to people they want to and 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 5: trying to force us to pay for all to give 62 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: somebody else money. 63 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's easier that way, because they're lazy. 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 7: So uh, I get it. The renters their neighbors technically, 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 7: although they are just renting there. They don't actually have 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 7: set they haven't set roots down. But aren't they landlords 67 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 7: also their neighbors? 68 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Of course they are. 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 8: Somebody needs to sell MOBI. Klausoepper that if a landlord 70 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 8: has somebody living in his apartment's not paying red, he's 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 8: still not making a profit. He's losing more that if 72 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 8: he puts the person out and has the ft of party. 73 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 8: Simple dat. 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: All right, let's turn our attention over to our next guest. 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: FBI alert warns Iran may I drone attack on American soil. 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: Hey, John, just to preemptively get ahead of this conversation 77 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: about these drone attacks in California, Like, oh well, probably 78 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 4: all the rest of the country would feel about drone 79 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: attacks in Minneapolis. 80 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Oh well, no mean, man, I got family there. As 81 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, almost my entire family is there. 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: All right, We're going to get to our guest one 83 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: more quick clip. Here's President Donald Trump yesterday talking about 84 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: the possibility of these attacks. 85 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 6: Here's that way say try to hit us. 86 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 7: Bat Have you been briefed about how many Iran sleeper 87 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 7: felt there could be inside us? 88 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: Right now? 89 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 9: I have been, and a lot of people came in 90 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 9: through Biden with a stupid open border. But we know 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 9: where most of them are. We've got all of them. 92 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: I think. 93 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 9: If it doesn't they came in through the open border 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 9: policies of sleepy Joe Biden, one of the worst, the 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 9: worst president in the history of our country. And we've 96 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 9: got a rise on all of them. But the wars 97 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 9: self is being prosecuted at a level that nobody seved before. 98 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing to us. 99 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Joining us on the show now to share his thoughts 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: on Operation Epic Hearing, and of course his run for Senate. 101 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: A friend of the show, Tom Wiler, Good morning, Tom, 102 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining the show this morning. 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: How are we doing, Good morning, John. 104 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: Doing well. 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on. Listen. Let's go back 106 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: to last week. 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 2: In one of the major headlines since Operation Epic Fury 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: started was the fact that one of our US submarines 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: ended up sinking one of the flagship vessels for the 110 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: Iranian Navy. And given year background as a former submariner, 111 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: I certainly wanted to hear your thoughts. And I don't 112 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: remember exactly what the number was, but I mean it 113 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: had been quite a long time, if my memory serves 114 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: me correctly based on the reporting, since we've actually had 115 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: combat via one of our submarines, is that correct? 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: That is correct? 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 10: It was actually back to World War Two? Was the 118 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 10: last time the United States submarine Yeah, fired a torpedo 119 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 10: and sunk a ship and anger, and that just sort 120 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 10: of highlights the level of warfare that submarines, submarine warfare is. 121 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 10: It's basically an all or nothing type warfare. And yeah, 122 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 10: it was a big day last week for the submarine 123 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 10: force in general. When it was actually the USS Charlotte, 124 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 10: I was the department head and navigator an operations officer 125 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 10: on the USS Charlot actually back in two thousand and 126 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 10: seven to nine time frame, So yeah, that was a 127 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 10: boat I was on, and they were the ones that. 128 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: Took that shot. 129 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 10: So I'm proud of all submariners to demonstrate, you know, 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 10: the expertise in their profession. And at the same light, 131 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 10: you know, that's one hundred and twenty Iranian sailors died 132 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 10: due to that engagement, and so that's a lot too, 133 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 10: a lot to handle, I'm sure for the skipper of 134 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 10: the USS Charlotte and the entire crew, but but godspeed 135 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 10: to them. Thank you for doing their job and defending 136 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 10: all of us. 137 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: Well, and that's it's kind of what I wanted to 138 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: ask you. I mean, can you I imagine that you 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: could envision what that must have been like for the 140 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 2: for the crew on that submarine in that in that moment, 141 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you have sort of two, you know, two 142 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: juxtaposing things happening. One, you know, you are, you know, 143 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: protecting American interests by taking action as you said, that 144 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: hadn't been taken since World War Two. But there's also, 145 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, a toll that goes along along with that. 146 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if maybe you could provide a little 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: bit of perspective of what that must have been like 148 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: for the crew on board the submarine. 149 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 10: Tom, Yes, very very intense to say that. To say 150 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 10: the least, it's it's one of those things you've trained 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 10: for for thousands of hours literally as the officers and 152 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 10: the crew of a submmarine too, to perform that type 153 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 10: of engagement. And and so I think when they received 154 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 10: the order, which I'm not sure on the build up 155 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 10: or you know, where they were originally located in the world, 156 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 10: but when they received that order, I'm sure it's surreal 157 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 10: initially and then and then I think your training takes over. 158 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 10: I think they you know, they executed the mission. Well, 159 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 10: they were in a great fired position. You can tell 160 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 10: by the redicals on the periscope that they were, you know, 161 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 10: probably within two thousand yards, within one narutic a mile 162 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 10: right off the beam. So you know, they look to 163 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 10: be in the position that we've trained to be in 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 10: for for you know, thousands of hours for every watch team, 165 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 10: and then and then yeah, that training takes over, and 166 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 10: then once the shots over, that I'm sure is when 167 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 10: a lot of the a lot of the deep thoughts 168 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 10: I guess on what just occurred and your actions. But 169 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 10: you know, when you get an order in the military, 170 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 10: they're called orders for a reason, and you execute that 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 10: order unless it's an unjust order. And in this case, 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 10: we're at war with Iran, it's a just order, and 173 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 10: they effectively did their job on behalf ball Americans. 174 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: You look at some of the just a quick sidebar here. 175 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of submarine movies in general. 176 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm. 177 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: Curious with a film like Crimson Tide or Hunter for 178 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: Red October. I assume you've seen these, you know, how 179 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: many of these films actually do an accurate portrayal of 180 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: what life is like on a on a submarine. 181 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on that? Tom? 182 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Again, talking with Tom Wyler running for US Senate well, 183 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: not a. 184 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 10: Lot of them are overall, you know, paint a very 185 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 10: aggurate picture, but they all have unique, unique elements that 186 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 10: that do resonate as truthful from a submariner's perspective. The 187 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 10: one I like to always tell people that Tom Periscope 188 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 10: the most accurate, but it's a funny movie, but you know, 189 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 10: and sincerity. They all demonstrate some of the close quarters 190 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 10: and really the camaraderie of the crew of the two 191 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 10: things that I that I think those movies. 192 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 6: Try to portray. 193 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 10: But it's just difficult to fully explain the experience of 194 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 10: being underwater in a negatively boyd steal too with one 195 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 10: hundred and twenty to one hundred and thirty the greatest 196 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 10: of your best friends for six months at a time. 197 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: The website is Tom Wyler twenty twenty six. Tom's running 198 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: for US Senate. Your overall thoughts given your military background 199 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: on Operation Epic Fury, since it's inception, I just I'm 200 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: just curious to get to get your view on the 201 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: operation thus far. 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 10: Well, it's a phenomenal operation from the military perspective, and 203 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 10: it does demonstrate how we want to build and maintain 204 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 10: our military with overwhelming force and war is one of 205 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 10: those areas where you never want. 206 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: A fair fight. 207 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 10: So our overwhelming force verse is on display right now. 208 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 10: And I do think it was the right decision by 209 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 10: President Trump at the right time and for the right 210 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 10: reasons to go ahead and hopefully eliminate this Iranian regime. 211 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 10: They've been killing thousands of Americans for forty seven years. 212 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 10: They clearly have ignored international request and orders to not 213 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 10: build a nuclear weapon, and they were attempting to get 214 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 10: there once again. And bottom line, the Iranian regime was 215 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 10: at their weakest and weakest period in decades. And I 216 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 10: think it was the right decision and I full of 217 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 10: support the President of making that decision, and the military 218 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 10: is executing a very well put together plan again. 219 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: Talking with Tom Wyler the website, Tom Wyler twenty twenty 220 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: six running for US, and let's talk a bit about 221 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: about your campaign. This is a competitive race on bull sides, 222 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: Republican in and Democrat. How do you differentiate yourself from 223 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: the other Republican candidates and how has the campaign been going? 224 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 10: Other campaign's been going very well. I different myself from 225 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 10: both Republicans and the other Democrats running fundamentally on the 226 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 10: principle that I'm here to solve problems. And I think 227 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 10: that's the one thing Minnesotas can unite on right now 228 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 10: is we have plenty of problems and we need someone 229 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 10: to shake it up. 230 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: I guess when we go to Washington, d C. To 231 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: represent them as their senator. 232 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 10: And I'm trying to get to the United States Senate, 233 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 10: you know, not to rename post offices, but to tackle 234 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 10: the big problems like our national debt, the divisiveness in 235 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 10: this country, and building back up the American the American 236 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 10: dream which is foundational and every American generation has that 237 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 10: American dream and grain in them. And right now, unfortunately, 238 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 10: with a lot of the things going on in our culture, 239 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 10: that that American dream, that American culture is getting looked 240 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 10: at through a negative lens sometimes. So I want to 241 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 10: bring real common sense problems solving, acumen and leadership to 242 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 10: the United States Senate and serve all Minnesotans and all Americans. 243 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: Tom Wyler the website Tom Weiler twenty twenty six dot com. 244 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: What is it you need right now from those who 245 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: wish to support your campaign for Senate? 246 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 10: Well, first off, I just want to make sure Minnesotans 247 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 10: know to keep their head up. 248 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, we. 249 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 10: Definitely have been through a lot. A lot of that 250 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 10: has been self inflicted, unfortunately by the foreheaded monster that 251 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 10: is the Democratic DFL in Minnesota right now. But keep 252 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 10: their heads up, and I really need your help to 253 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 10: go to my website and really give me your inputs. 254 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 10: I have to do list basically on my website, which 255 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 10: is basically your to do list is my to do list. 256 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 10: I want to know what you want me to focus on, 257 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 10: and I also explain my focus areas, and then any 258 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 10: and all contributions are greatly necessary. The both Peggy Flanagan 259 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 10: and Andrew Craig are really building up their war chest 260 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 10: for this race, so any and all contra mus we'll 261 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 10: go a long ways to helping our team chart a 262 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 10: new course from Minnesota. 263 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: As always, Tom Wyler, thank you for your service and 264 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: thank you for taking some time out this morning. I 265 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: encourage everybody to learn more about Tom. You can go 266 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: to his website, Tom Wiler in twenty twenty six is 267 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: w E. I l E R great talking with you 268 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: this morning, Tom. I'll look forward to the next time 269 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: you and I get a chance to chat. 270 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 10: Thank you very much, John, and thank you for all 271 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 10: that you do for the great city in Minnesota, and 272 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 10: let's chart a new course for Minnesota together. 273 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: Coming up next on the show Alpha News, marble filled mansion, 274 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: once owned by Feeding our Future fraudster hits the market. 275 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you how much it's going for if you're 276 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: in the market for a new home and you have 277 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: a couple of million dollars to spare. Also, we're going 278 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: to hop into the wayback machine. I went and found 279 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: a clip of this fraudster prior to this individual getting 280 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: arrested and convicted. And what's astonishing is to hear the 281 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: so words of this individual in the midst of their 282 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: committing fraud, and how they framed the difficulty that they 283 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: were under, and the greatness of which Amy Bach, the 284 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: ring leader of Feeding Our Fraud, the greatness that she 285 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: brought to the individuals that were now able to go 286 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: and reap the benefits from this program. Again, this is 287 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: in the middle of when they were doing fraud. It's 288 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: infuriating audio, but you don't want to miss it. I'll 289 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: share it with you next here on Twinesday's News Talk 290 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: AM eleven thirty and one three five FM. 291 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 11: Human Can you imagine being the guy who gets to 292 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 11: fire that missile, to sink that ship, right, being the 293 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 11: first guy to do that. 294 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: In seventy years. Freaking awesome. 295 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: Good morning, John, great show, Best submarine movie of all 296 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: time dust Boat and in the German version, have a 297 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: great day. 298 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I go hunt for Red October. 299 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 6: That's just. 300 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: Top ten easy. You remove Star Wars out of the mix. 301 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: Just take all those movies out. We're not gonna count them. 302 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Throws off a top ten list for me, and I 303 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: definitely put a hunt for Red October. 304 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Close second would be Crimson Tide. 305 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: Dash Boot's okay, it's a little on the slow side. 306 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: What is the Matthew McConaughey one you five, one seven 307 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: nine is out in that one? That was a good 308 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: one too. Your talk back of the day is on 309 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: the way. It might be submarine themed. We just got 310 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: off the line with Tom Wiler running first senate former 311 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: a submariner. We'll get into this marble filled mansion once 312 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: on by feeding our future fraudster hits the market. 313 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: For two point one million dollars. 314 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: We're also gonna hop into the way back machine and 315 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: hear from the fraudster herself before getting convicted, arrested and 316 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: convicted of the Feeding our Future fraud, So we'll do 317 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: that coming up in just a moment. 318 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: Your talk back of the. 319 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: Day again on the Way, brought to you by Mini 320 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: Leaf five dollars off right now the Nightgummies at the 321 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: website at Mini Leaf, we had a lot of talkbacks 322 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to get to today when 323 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: we're working through a lot of material on the show 324 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 2: regarding the bill to claim the a errant right to 325 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: life for wild rice, and I made the comment that 326 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: I hope during the committee hearing the debate over this, 327 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: somebody brought up the comparison to abortion, because, as I 328 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: mentioned a few times this morning, the same individuals that 329 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: supported some of the most extreme abortion laws in the 330 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: country are now attempting to go and grant a right 331 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: to life for wild rice because Native Americans believe that 332 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: it is a living being and a relative. But I also, 333 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: I still want to say this too, and it kind 334 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: of feeds into the story with the feeding our Future 335 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: fraud going on, you know, while I want to see 336 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 2: it established and I want it on record individuals who 337 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: supported abortion and yet at the same time, under the 338 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: same rationale that pro life advocates are against abortion they're 339 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: trying to go and claim a right to life for 340 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: wild rice of all things. It needs to be said. 341 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: You know this, and I know this, but it still 342 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: needs to be said. The let doesn't care. They thumb 343 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: their nose at this type of rational commentary. They're clearly 344 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: willing to lie to further their agenda. This was made 345 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: abundantly clear in multiple comments from Governor Tim Walls just 346 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: this week, Representative Sidney Jordan, lying on every single point 347 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: that they put forward to push back on this federal 348 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: government tax credit that one can receive here in Minnesota 349 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: for I own any money to school that they can 350 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: get back at the end of the year. The truth 351 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: of the matter is this hypocrisy. They just don't care 352 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: for them. The politics is their religion, so therefore they 353 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: can establish whatever rules that they want to establish in 354 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: order to further their to further their cause. So I imagine 355 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: if you presented a demo, a Democrat with that argument 356 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: of you're in support of extreme abortion or just abortion 357 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: in general. You have pro life advocates out there saying 358 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: that that is a living person inside of a woman's 359 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: body that should be protected, and you're against that. You 360 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: believe in a woman's right to choose. But yet you're 361 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: again pushing a bill that's trying to give the right 362 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: to live to wild rice. 363 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: They don't care. There's gonna laugh at you. 364 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: Because they know the reason why they're doing it, and 365 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: they have no shame. I still would rather be on 366 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: this side the political spectrum, being able to look at 367 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: my family, my wife and my sons and myself in 368 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: the mirror, knowing that I'm not a hypocrite and I'm 369 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: not a liar. But I just wanted to point that 370 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: out because it's the same mentality of these fraudsters. They 371 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: don't care. So before I bring you in the details 372 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: of the story next, let me leave you and we'll 373 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: take a quick break and we'll get to the details 374 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: of this Feeding our Future fraudster's mansion that's now on 375 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: the market. 376 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: But the woman's name was Hannah mer Keegan. 377 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: Okay, she got more than seven million dollars from the 378 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: Feeding our Future program intended to feed children during the pandemic. 379 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: And I will give you the. 380 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: Details as to what she claimed that she was doing 381 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: while she was collecting that seven million of your dollars. 382 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: But this was prior to her. 383 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: Indictment and arrest and conviction speaking to a group of individuals. 384 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: Listen to she was in the throes of committing fraud, 385 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: stealing millions of dollars, and yet listen to the way 386 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: that she presented herself to a group of individuals after 387 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: being introduced to this organization that was involved in Feeding 388 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: our Future, prior to this program being found fraudulent. And 389 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: then I'll comment on the other side of the break 390 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 2: here on Twin City's News Talk. This is Hannah Markkeegan 391 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: again now in jail after her arrest and conviction for 392 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: stealing seven million dollars. 393 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 12: Thank you so much for every tea you know, Amy 394 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 12: is for everybody I seen. I've been in this country 395 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 12: for twenty five years. 396 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: Again, she's talking about Amy Bach, the ringleader who was 397 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 2: convicted in her role of perpetuating all the fraud one 398 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty plus million dollars worth in Feeding our Future. 399 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: This is who she's lavishing praise upon. 400 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 12: I run my business for almost eleven years and we've 401 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 12: been pushed around so many times. We're the only immigrants 402 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 12: did not get paid and work for three months and 403 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 12: work our back off, and we are a very strong immigrants. 404 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 12: We work so hard, and we appreciate one American citizen, 405 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 12: a true American citizen. I will call her that, you know, 406 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 12: and we will fight. We will fight hard. We will 407 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 12: be there with you for all the time and with God. 408 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 12: You know, Yes, thank you. 409 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should do with that, guy said, good feed 410 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: Good feestore dot com. 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And everybody that I 433 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 6: had served with so we talked, wanted to be on 434 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 6: that submarine that took out that shit. 435 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 9: Yeah. 436 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 6: Bet, let's make it a great day. 437 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Adam. 438 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: You are the talk back of the day, brought to 439 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: you by Minni Leaf and mini leaf dot Com. All right, 440 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: before we get into the feeding our future fraud story. 441 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: Speaking of fraud, I like to give myself credit where 442 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: credit is due. I did predict at the beginning of 443 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: or the end of last year, in the beginning of 444 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: this year that one of the biggest stories that would 445 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: emerge throughout the year would be that the fraud that 446 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: we've experienced wherein we lost billions upon billions of dollars 447 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: under the watch of Governor Tim Walls, is not isolated 448 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: to Minnesota, and this fraud was going to be exposed 449 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: across the country and now we're seeing this actually happening. 450 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: A CBS News investigation in Los Angeles County, California, revealed 451 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: rampant hospice fraud. As if it couldn't get any more 452 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: gross in terms, I mean, all the fraud is gross, 453 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: but hospice fraud. And this would be despite California efforts 454 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: to curb the issue. The investigation found that over seven 455 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 2: hundred hospices exhibiting signs of fraud, including geographic clustering, low 456 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 2: patient counts, and excessive billing. 457 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: The state has revoked licenses. 458 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: So far for two hundred and eighty hospices, but the 459 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: problem persists. Some companies operating under the radar are engaging 460 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: in fraudulent practices. Three years ago, California state auditors sounded 461 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: the alarm that Los Angeles County had seen a fifteen 462 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: one hundred percent increase in hospice company since twenty ten. 463 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: How is it even possible? 464 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: Again, is it a similar situation there that what we 465 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: dealt with. You had individuals, perhaps at the state level, 466 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: that see this massive increase, they go and tell their 467 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 2: super and it gets ignored because they simply don't want 468 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: to deal with it, or they consider this like I 469 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: believe the DFL does here in Minnesota, is just merely 470 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: a redistribution of well through fraud. This is more than 471 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: six times the national average relative to its elderly population. 472 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 2: Auditors estimated that La County hospices overbuild medicare by one 473 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: hundred and five million in a single year. 474 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: The report called out notable. 475 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: Red flags multiple hospices and one building as I mentioned, 476 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: geographic clustering, high rates of terminally ill pagents later discharged alive, 477 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: excessive billing staff shared across multiple companies. The state says 478 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: it proceeded to investigate and revoke the licenses of those 479 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty hospices, but since then the problem 480 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: has continued to fester. CBS News examined the business and 481 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 2: financial records of every hospice currently operating in La County, 482 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: applying the same indicators identified by the state. Indications of 483 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: fraud have not stopped. In fact, they've grown. The CBS 484 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: News analysis reveals that over seven hundred of the roughly 485 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: eighteen thousand hospices in La County trigger multiple red flags 486 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: for fraud as defined by the state. 487 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 6: That's just. 488 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: It's crazy to me that we're in twenty twenty six 489 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: now and we're only now discovering this one's been going 490 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: on for more than likely decades. In the meantime, a 491 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: luxury home in Hennipon County, once owned by a defendant 492 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: and defeeding our future fraud scheme, now back on the market. 493 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 2: If you've got a cool two point one million, it 494 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: offers a glimpse into where some of the millions in 495 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: solar taxpayer dollars went. And people have asked several times 496 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: as we've talked about this on the show, like are 497 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: we going to recoup this money? How are you going 498 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: to recoup it? It's gone, The fraudsters don't have it anymore. 499 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: I mean, in this case, this Hannah Markgan, convicted fraudster. 500 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: You know, she had this home, but now it's gone 501 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: to somebody else. She used money that she gained through 502 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: fraud with feeding our future, and now it's defaulted back 503 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: to a different owner and they're going to put it 504 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: up for sale and they'll sell it and we don't 505 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: get a dimeback. Federal prosecutors say the homes owner feeding 506 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: Our Future again convicted froster Hannah Markgan obtained more than 507 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: seven million from the Federal Nutrition child Nutrition program, intended 508 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: to feed children during the pandemic. Property records show that 509 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: mark Keegan purchased the Madna home in twenty twenty one 510 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: for one million, two hundred and sixty thousand dollars. However, 511 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: records show no mortgage associated with the property at the 512 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: time of the purchase, suggesting the home may have been 513 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: bought with cash during the same period. She later testified 514 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: that she was living very large and the American dream 515 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: life reedy. Mark Keegan later forfeited the home as part 516 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: of her plea agreement. Property records show the home was 517 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: sold in twenty twenty three to the current owners. The property, 518 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: located on more than two acres and exclusive Tuckborough Farms community, 519 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: is described in real estate listings at the five bedroom, 520 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: seven bathroom luxury home, featuring high end finishes throughout. 521 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: I saw the pictures. It's a beautiful home. 522 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: She was indeed living the good life, but as I 523 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: played in the audio, she was the victim. This is 524 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Hannah mark Egan in the middle of conducting her fraud, 525 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: speaking to a group of individuals who were also conducting fraud, 526 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 2: keeping praise upon amy Bach, the ringleader of the fraud. 527 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: But in this she makes it sound like she's been 528 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: the victim all along with how hard she works and 529 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: how hard she fights while she was conducting her fraudulent ways. 530 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 12: Thank you so much for everything, you know, Amy is 531 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 12: for everybody I seen. I've been in this country for 532 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 12: twenty five years. I ran my business for almost eleven years, 533 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 12: and we've been pushed around so many times. We're the 534 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 12: only immigrants did not get paid and work for three 535 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 12: months and work our back off, and we are very 536 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 12: strong immigrants. We work so hard, and we appreciate one 537 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 12: American citizen, a true American citizen. 538 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: I will call her that, you know. 539 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 12: And we will fight. We will fight hard. We will 540 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 12: be there with you for all the time and with God. 541 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 11: You know. 542 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it almost. 543 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: Sounds like that could have been a speech that was 544 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: after the conviction started to roll out. She was playing 545 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: the role of the victim at a time when she's 546 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: conducting the fraud and then heaping praise on amy. 547 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: Bach, as if to say. 548 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: Amy Bach was able to correct the error of the 549 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: ways of the individuals that wronged me by giving me 550 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,959 Speaker 2: this opportunity to commit all of this fraud. Inside of 551 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 2: the home in which this individual was living eighteen foot ceilings, 552 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: a statement chandelier, floor to ceiling, marble and gold doors outside. 553 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: The property sits on more than two acres and included 554 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: a heated in ground pool. Those elaborate marble finishes and 555 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: gold doors are not mentioned in the properties twenty twenty 556 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: one listing. A Twin Cities buyer who previously inquired about 557 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: the home told alph News that a realtor said the 558 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: luxury upgrades were added while Mayr Keegan lived there. Oh, 559 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: wasn't enough to have this beautiful, lavish home. She had 560 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: to go to add these wild, gaudy amenities. 561 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: Apparently with their mental gymnasic. 562 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 7: This isn't fraud of them, it's just creative means of reparations. 563 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it sounded like in that clip from Hannah. 564 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: According to Mark Keagan's guilty plea in federal court, she 565 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: enrolled her company Brava Cafe in the federal child Nutrition 566 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: Nutrition program under the sponsorship of Feeding Our Future between 567 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty and follow twenty one. Prosecutors say 568 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: the company claimed to have served more than two million 569 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: meals and obtained approximately seven point one million in federal 570 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: program funds. By the way, amy Bach is an evil individual. 571 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that, because in so many of 572 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: these circumstances, what it sounds like is that here you 573 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: have this individual who apparently immigrated to the country legally 574 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: established their own business in this Prova cafe, may have 575 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: been struggling. 576 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: These businesses are hard to stay open. 577 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: Profit margins, not to mention the layers of bureaucracy the 578 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: Democrats have put in to their anti business beliefs here 579 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: in Minnesota, and yet here comes amy Bach selling this. 580 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: Idea. 581 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, we had this feeding our future 582 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: program and your Brava cafe can be one of the 583 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: places where you can say that we're, you know, giving 584 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: out these meals to kids and there's very little oversight 585 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: in any of this. You just have to claim that 586 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: you've fed so many kids in the state. Will the 587 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: pedal federal government through COVID of relief will pay you 588 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: for it. I mean, everybody's to blame in this, but 589 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: make no mistake, amy Bach was feeding on these individuals 590 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: and they're being held accountable rightfully so for agreeing in 591 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: to these fraudulent actions. In her application, Mary Keegan claimed 592 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: the restaurant would serve meals to up to four thousand 593 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: children per day at its Minneapolis location. However, cobsecutors said 594 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: the claim was obviously false. Instead, authority say Mark Keegan 595 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: submitted fraudulent reimbursement claims supported by fake paperwork and inflated 596 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: meal counts. 597 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, but remember, I'm sure. 598 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: Going back to a story that we covered earlier in 599 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: the show, I'm sure that as the Minneapolis City Council 600 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: leadership goes to compile the amount of money that they 601 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: believe Operation Metro Surge cost the City of Minneapolis, it's 602 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: all on the up and up right, they would never 603 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 2: go and put forward bogus data. 604 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's bogus to begin with. It was 605 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: all self inflicted. 606 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: No entity should get a dime in terms of money 607 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: to be recouped because of Operation Metro Surge. Any costs 608 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: that were incurred is all one hundred percent on the 609 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 2: individuals that went and protested extended the time of Operation 610 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: Metro Surge kept them from doing their jobs fearmongered individuals 611 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: to not go to work, the businesses that voluntarily closed down, 612 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: and the rules whose parents voluntarily kept their kids from that. 613 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: None of that had to happen. 614 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: Mark Keegan getting back and Feeding Our Future also paid 615 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: kickbacks to the Feeding our Future in exchange for the 616 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: nonprofit sponsorship of her company Alten, who was previously reported 617 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: that Feeding our Future mastermind Amy Box's trial, Mark Keegan, 618 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: an East African immigrant, told the jury that Bach was 619 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: viewed as a near mythical figure among those benefiting the scheme, 620 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: and that was certainly apparent in that clip that I 621 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: just shared with you. 622 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 1: Amy Bach was a god. 623 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 2: Mark Keegan testified she gave us the American dream life. 624 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: We were able to own houses, good cars, We were 625 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: living very large. Mark Keegan recalled the celebration in twenty 626 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: twenty one where a group of East African women saying 627 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: and praised Bach for her role in securing continued funding 628 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: for the program. 629 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 1: Gee. 630 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's actually where I pulled that from 631 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: a moment ago. I think it might have been. The 632 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: event was held in response to Bo's legal battle and 633 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 2: the ultimate victory over the Minnesota Department of Education, which 634 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: attempted to cut funding over her suspected fraud. 635 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that was. 636 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 12: Thank you so much for every team you know, Amy 637 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 12: is for everybody I've seen. I've been in this country 638 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 12: for twenty five years. I run my business for almost 639 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 12: eleven years, and she told me. 640 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: She figured out a way where I didn't really have 641 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 2: to do much work at all anymore. I just had 642 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 2: to lie on a bunch of paperwork, makeups, some fake documents, 643 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: and I can live a lavish lifestyle. 644 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: And now I am. 645 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: Look at my beautiful home and those gold doors in 646 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: that ing ground pool. Mahrre Keegn testified that Back instructed 647 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: her and others to call MDE and accused the Department 648 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 2: of racism when it tried to stop payments. The pressure 649 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: campaign apparently succeeded, as MDE ultimately back down, allowing the 650 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 2: funds to keep flowing. Mark Keegan admitted under oath that 651 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: the racism accusations were indeed. 652 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Honey, please money, please, Thank you for hanging out on 653 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: the show today. 654 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: If you've missed any portion of today's broadcast, the podcast 655 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: will be available shortly up on the iHeartRadio app Freedom 656 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: Friday tomorrow. You're on and off topic comments all morning 657 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: long and studio Representative Max Reimer, RNC Committeeman Ak Kamara 658 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 2: get your talkbacks in early to the iHeartRadio app. You 659 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 2: can also email me as well, Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. 660 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: Have a fantastic Thursday. I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning. 661 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: Bye. They knew, and they'd let it happen. Walk out, 662 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: walk out,