Speaker 1: Alright, a eight thirty nine here on the Big One
Speaker 1: seven underd WLW. Welcome to the Morning Show. And we
Speaker 1: do this every Tuesday. We get together with former United
Speaker 1: States Olympian Julie is for Ding, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: is always out in the business world, television radios, speaking engagements,
Speaker 1: you name it, she does it and does it great.
Speaker 2: Julie, Good morning, Good morning Tom. How's everything with you today?
Speaker 3: It's great. I love my Tuesdays with Tom so much
Speaker 3: to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And we get into lots of different things. So we're
Speaker 1: going to over the next couple of weeks, we're going
Speaker 1: to get into some of these I'm gonna call them.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not the right word, maybe fads isn't the
Speaker 1: right word, but you know, whether it's intermittent fasting.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that next week.
Speaker 1: IV vitamin drips, these R rings, weighted vest protein diarits,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But two things I want to
Speaker 1: get into today. I was talking about and you and
Speaker 1: I were talking about this. I've always been fascinated by
Speaker 1: the people that go climb Mount Everest and they're exposed
Speaker 1: to these off the charts extreme weather conditions and how
Speaker 1: their bodies react and so forth. One are the sort
Speaker 1: of hot things right now is what's called a cold plunge.
Speaker 1: Now a lot of people know what this is. It's
Speaker 1: basically the practice of briefly submerging your body in cold water,
Speaker 1: typically between fifty and sixty degrees and some of the
Speaker 1: health benefits that have been proven to come about from this.
Speaker 2: This is something though that is not new.
Speaker 1: You were around this going back to your days in
Speaker 1: the eighties, and a lot of football players, athletes, they've
Speaker 1: been doing this for a while already, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: These cold plunges at the Olympics. At the Olympic Village,
Speaker 3: we had a huge healthcare facility and in it were
Speaker 3: these cold punges. Oh they were awful. They were about
Speaker 3: fifty nine degrees. We went in there after big workout,
Speaker 3: and you know, we went in there, we'd have to
Speaker 3: stay in them. I thought they were torture, but they
Speaker 3: were proven to reduce inflammation really quickly in your body,
Speaker 3: speed up recovery, which is what we needed because we
Speaker 3: were practicing and competing. And obviously they can boost your
Speaker 3: mood and improve your circulation as well. And then there's
Speaker 3: some studies out there that you know, would help you
Speaker 3: with your sleep, and obviously at the Olympics or football
Speaker 3: players are any high level athletes very very nervous. So
Speaker 3: you know, if you can sleep better, you do better.
Speaker 3: So all these things were supposed to be part of
Speaker 3: this cold plunge, but I'll tell you I was misible
Speaker 3: every second I got in those I dreaded them, and
Speaker 3: now they're here for the public. I mean, you can
Speaker 3: pay a lot of money ninety two one hundred dollars
Speaker 3: to go sit in an ice bath. Essentially it's an
Speaker 3: ice bath. And and you're right, you know, the people
Speaker 3: about climb Mount Everest or my Bill Keating, a good
Speaker 3: past friend of mine. He has to swim the English Channel,
Speaker 3: so he would do icebath to get him ready for
Speaker 3: the competition, or you know, to swim.
Speaker 2: In cold water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but sometimes I question. I mean, obviously it is benefits,
Speaker 3: but I'm talking about high level competition, high level events
Speaker 3: in your life, like climbie Mount Everest. But for the
Speaker 3: average American to go through that must much misery. Don't
Speaker 3: you think it stresses your body as well? I mean,
Speaker 3: can you see the cons in that?
Speaker 1: You know, I've got a friend of mine across the
Speaker 1: street he was a former college athlete so too with
Speaker 1: his wife, and they have a small one in their house.
Speaker 1: And I mean he will talk to you from now
Speaker 1: until the end of time about what a difference it
Speaker 1: has made for him and the way he feels and
Speaker 1: his ability to recover, like you're talking about like you
Speaker 1: were doing back in the eighties and other athletes were doing.
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's reducing the inflammation, reducing the soreness.
Speaker 1: There have been some studies It says it increases the
Speaker 1: level of dopamine indorphins, which gives you that, you know,
Speaker 1: reduce stress, that sort of euphoria. You know all about
Speaker 1: that where the runner is high. I just wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: can can you do this taking a cold shower. I
Speaker 1: don't mean to be flipping about it, but I mean
Speaker 1: it could it serve the same purpose.
Speaker 3: See, I think I agree more with you and all
Speaker 3: the things you know that you're saying. We really it's
Speaker 3: limited science. Most studies are pretty small, and I think
Speaker 3: some of the benefits might be more like feel good
Speaker 3: than medically proven. And it's short tom term results, and
Speaker 3: you could risk crossbite and cold burn, and what if
Speaker 3: you have heard disease or high blood pressure poor circulation.
Speaker 3: I mean, all those are you cannot do that stuff
Speaker 3: if you have those. But have you read about people
Speaker 3: who just take a two minute cold shower in the morning.
Speaker 2: No, but I'd like to hear more about it if
Speaker 2: you know about it.
Speaker 3: Well, the cold shower routine, I do it. You know,
Speaker 3: if you get done with the run, you know, you're
Speaker 3: in the shower two minutes and you know, nice cold
Speaker 3: shower and then put the heatpock on your body, and
Speaker 3: it does it might serve the same purpose. And think
Speaker 3: about it, Tom, all the money you save and more
Speaker 3: the time you save. Like that's the other thing about
Speaker 3: all these health AADs there really nice and they do
Speaker 3: serve a purpose, But at what cost money financially and
Speaker 3: your time? And is there something better you could do,
Speaker 3: like go on a vacation, go to the beach, you know,
Speaker 3: take a day off. These are all other things that
Speaker 3: maybe when you google all the symptoms, Google comes back
Speaker 3: and says, hey, why don't you go take a nap?
Speaker 2: Right exactly?
Speaker 1: You know, it should be noted we're talking about this
Speaker 1: and most of the time it is highly recommend that
Speaker 1: you consult with your doctor before you ever start thinking
Speaker 1: about doing these cold plunges, because you just mentioned it.
Speaker 1: It can put an enormous strain on your heart, especially
Speaker 1: if you have heart issues respiratory issues. Any prolonged exposure
Speaker 1: to cold water obviously can lead to hypothermia. So while
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about this like, you know,
Speaker 1: everything's groovy, everything's perfect, you better make sure that you're
Speaker 1: the kind of person who's body and heart and lungs
Speaker 1: can handle even thinking about doing these extreme conditions kind
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 3: And that might be the best point of all, Tom,
Speaker 3: because you don't want to find out you have a
Speaker 3: heart condition in the middle of your cold plunch. But
Speaker 3: the other thing, Tom, is the cryotherapy. Have you heard
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 2: I have and I've never tried it.
Speaker 3: If you tried it, yes, what you do is you
Speaker 3: step into this chamber and it's negative two hundred degrees
Speaker 3: and it's for about two to four minutes. You have
Speaker 3: to wear gloves, a hat, sock, and it's expensive and
Speaker 3: it's time.
Speaker 1: Let me let me, let me, let me interrupt you
Speaker 1: real quick, okay, because I've never done it, and and
Speaker 1: and and that's what I understand. You're only in there
Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes. You talked about a hat, gloves, socks.
Speaker 1: Are you wearing like sweatpants, you're wearing shorts? What are
Speaker 1: you wearing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wear short you know, limited clothing. And it's
Speaker 3: the same idea. You reduce his inflammation, your body speeds
Speaker 3: up recovery, you can boost your mood. People say, oh,
Speaker 3: it just puts me in the best mood. But the
Speaker 3: other thing, the science is limited short results, which we
Speaker 3: talked about. And the other thing, it's not regulated by
Speaker 3: the FDA. So you know they're pipe in liquid nitrogen
Speaker 3: or refrigerated air into that chamber and you're My doctor said,
Speaker 3: he's like, you don't know. You know is because none
Speaker 3: of this is regulated. So and then let's get back
Speaker 3: to it's expensive. When'd you rather just take a cold
Speaker 3: shower and plan your beach vacation. That's where I struggle
Speaker 3: with a lot of these health sads. What do you
Speaker 3: think about that?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: It strikes me when you and I were talking about
Speaker 1: this yesterday, about discussitting on the show today, I was
Speaker 1: really really surprised because virtual, I mean right where we are,
Speaker 1: right now, right across the street, there is a cryotherapy
Speaker 1: office building and I was stunned when you shared with me,
Speaker 1: and you just shared it with a everybody at home
Speaker 1: about how the FDA has not cleared or approved of
Speaker 1: any of this stuff. They've not said that it's safe,
Speaker 1: they've not said that it's effective in treating any medical condition.
Speaker 1: I just assumed that, because they seemingly are everywhere right,
Speaker 1: that right, that these things had at least some or
Speaker 1: at least enough science behind it where the FDA would say, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: no problem, knock yourself out if that's what you want
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: But that's not the case, not at all.
Speaker 3: And then you know, you ask yourself those same three questions,
Speaker 3: Does it make sense? If it sounds extreme, you know
Speaker 3: it probably is? Question number two? Does it feel good
Speaker 3: long term? No? I was completely miserable these icepaths. I
Speaker 3: was miserable. I think I was more stressed thinking about
Speaker 3: the misery. And the third question I always ask does
Speaker 3: it fit with your real life? Can you afford it
Speaker 3: to have the time? Would you rather take a nap?
Speaker 3: Would you rather save the money for a family outing?
Speaker 3: Would it better just to be go take a walk,
Speaker 3: you know, in the winter, Go take a walk in
Speaker 3: the winter, and you've got all your problem solved, and
Speaker 3: you just saved yourself one hundred dollars in an hour
Speaker 3: of your time.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: When we moved back to Cincinnati back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, my father in law, who is was for
Speaker 1: years and years and years. He was one of these
Speaker 1: ironman triathletes right did Hawaii, you know, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: He got to our house before we had moved from
Speaker 1: Arizona to Cincinnati. We had two doctors living next door
Speaker 1: to us, husband and a wife. There had been a
Speaker 1: ton of snow the day before we were supposed to arrive,
Speaker 1: and my father in law was outside, great physical shape.
Speaker 1: This guy he's outside in the cold, freezing air, was
Speaker 1: like ten degrees shoveling the driveway. The neighbor the guy
Speaker 1: comes out, looks at my father in law's never seen him,
Speaker 1: never met him, know nothing, and he says to him, sir,
Speaker 1: do you mind if I ask what you're doing? He says, well,
Speaker 1: I'm shoveling. He says, oh, no, I understand what you're doing,
Speaker 1: But don't you understand the risk of being in this
Speaker 1: cold air and your lungs inhaling this cold air while
Speaker 1: you're exercising. It's he said in the hospital in the winter.
Speaker 1: This is the number one thing we see for heart
Speaker 1: attacks in senior citizens. Are men and or women out
Speaker 1: there shoveling snow in freezing conditions? I just wonder, And
Speaker 1: again there's no science one way or the other. I
Speaker 1: just wonder for your heart. And that's specifically what he's
Speaker 1: talking about about the exercise and the cold and inhaling
Speaker 1: it into your life lungs. I just I mean, I look,
Speaker 1: I don't know one way or the other. I don't
Speaker 1: do it. I have friends that do do it, they
Speaker 1: like it, they swear by it. But I just wonder
Speaker 1: without a lot of medical science behind it, I just wonder,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, is it good for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then the other question, aren't we all trying
Speaker 3: to simplify our life and now we're making it more complicated.
Speaker 3: We're adding all these things in because perhaps Instagram said
Speaker 3: it's wonderful, you know, and the impact of social media
Speaker 3: influing and fluent thing us as opposed to a good
Speaker 3: old doctor's appointment where the doctor looks you and says
Speaker 3: you are enough, You're doing enough. Let's not add more in.
Speaker 3: Let's do three things, sleep more, eat less, and I
Speaker 3: want you to exercise more and not any of those
Speaker 3: three things included. Okay, I got to get to my
Speaker 3: appointment for my cold punch, okay, cryotherapy on Wednesday. Then
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm doing that inter minute fans saying, oh
Speaker 3: and I got to put that weighted death on on Friday.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm exhausted just talking about it. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know we'll cover a lot of these health ads,
Speaker 3: but I think we're trying trying too hard. Somewhere along
Speaker 3: the way, we've kind of lost that self worth that
Speaker 3: says I am, Okay, everything's going to be okay. There's
Speaker 3: no perfect way to do things, but there's a hundred
Speaker 3: good ways. And these are my good ways, not what
Speaker 3: Instagram told me, not what the latest my neighbor's doing.
Speaker 3: But this is going to work for me and the
Speaker 3: health SAIDs And I want to be certain that you know,
Speaker 3: we said there's pros and cons, but I think a
Speaker 3: lot of times Tom and I think you know we
Speaker 3: talked about this last night. I mean, the cons sometimes
Speaker 3: so outweigh the pros that it just makes sense to
Speaker 3: keep on keeping on with you know, the successful things
Speaker 3: you're doing, and you know, save your time, save your
Speaker 3: money for all the other things that really matter.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, Jules. It's always great being with you.
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great rest of your Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and we'll catch up again next week.
Speaker 2: Oh we will, all right.
Speaker 1: Julius for day kind enough to join us as she
Speaker 1: does every Tuesday at eight thirty eight here on the
Speaker 1: Morning Show seven undred WLW. And it's been a crazy
Speaker 1: morning out there on the road.