WEBVTT - 10-7-25 Thom Brennaman 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:01.480 Alright, a eight thirty nine here on the Big One 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:04.800 seven underd WLW. Welcome to the Morning Show. And we 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.600 do this every Tuesday. We get together with former United 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.639 States Olympian Julie is for Ding, who, by the way, 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:16.760 is always out in the business world, television radios, speaking engagements, 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.320 you name it, she does it and does it great. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:25.000 Julie, Good morning, Good morning Tom. How's everything with you today? 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.200 It's great. I love my Tuesdays with Tom so much 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:30.040 to talk about. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:30.600 Yep. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.639 And we get into lots of different things. So we're 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.199 going to over the next couple of weeks, we're going 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.320 to get into some of these I'm gonna call them. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.920 Maybe it's not the right word, maybe fads isn't the 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.959 right word, but you know, whether it's intermittent fasting. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:45.479 We'll get into that next week. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:52.160 IV vitamin drips, these R rings, weighted vest protein diarits, 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.920 that kind of thing. But two things I want to 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.240 get into today. I was talking about and you and 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.960 I were talking about this. I've always been fascinated by 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.119 the people that go climb Mount Everest and they're exposed 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:09.319 to these off the charts extreme weather conditions and how 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.520 their bodies react and so forth. One are the sort 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:18.039 of hot things right now is what's called a cold plunge. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.400 Now a lot of people know what this is. It's 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.839 basically the practice of briefly submerging your body in cold water, 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.959 typically between fifty and sixty degrees and some of the 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.600 health benefits that have been proven to come about from this. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.679 This is something though that is not new. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.959 You were around this going back to your days in 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.240 the eighties, and a lot of football players, athletes, they've 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:45.360 been doing this for a while already, right, Yeah. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:49.600 These cold plunges at the Olympics. At the Olympic Village, 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:54.360 we had a huge healthcare facility and in it were 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:59.480 these cold punges. Oh they were awful. They were about 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.520 fifty nine degrees. We went in there after big workout, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.640 and you know, we went in there, we'd have to 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.160 stay in them. I thought they were torture, but they 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.520 were proven to reduce inflammation really quickly in your body, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.080 speed up recovery, which is what we needed because we 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.720 were practicing and competing. And obviously they can boost your 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.080 mood and improve your circulation as well. And then there's 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.640 some studies out there that you know, would help you 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.040 with your sleep, and obviously at the Olympics or football 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:36.480 players are any high level athletes very very nervous. So 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.160 you know, if you can sleep better, you do better. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.520 So all these things were supposed to be part of 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.959 this cold plunge, but I'll tell you I was misible 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.920 every second I got in those I dreaded them, and 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.440 now they're here for the public. I mean, you can 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.959 pay a lot of money ninety two one hundred dollars 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.919 to go sit in an ice bath. Essentially it's an 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:05.680 ice bath. And and you're right, you know, the people 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:10.560 about climb Mount Everest or my Bill Keating, a good 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.920 past friend of mine. He has to swim the English Channel, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.440 so he would do icebath to get him ready for 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.399 the competition, or you know, to swim. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:20.920 In cold water. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:27.120 Yeah, but sometimes I question. I mean, obviously it is benefits, 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.560 but I'm talking about high level competition, high level events 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.200 in your life, like climbie Mount Everest. But for the 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:39.920 average American to go through that must much misery. Don't 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.880 you think it stresses your body as well? I mean, 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.600 can you see the cons in that? 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.360 You know, I've got a friend of mine across the 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.240 street he was a former college athlete so too with 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.440 his wife, and they have a small one in their house. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.920 And I mean he will talk to you from now 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.960 until the end of time about what a difference it 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.440 has made for him and the way he feels and 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.520 his ability to recover, like you're talking about like you 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.440 were doing back in the eighties and other athletes were doing. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:12.480 You know, whether it's reducing the inflammation, reducing the soreness. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.720 There have been some studies It says it increases the 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.480 level of dopamine indorphins, which gives you that, you know, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.760 reduce stress, that sort of euphoria. You know all about 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.560 that where the runner is high. I just wonder, you know, 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.159 can can you do this taking a cold shower. I 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.279 don't mean to be flipping about it, but I mean 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.640 it could it serve the same purpose. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.000 See, I think I agree more with you and all 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.520 the things you know that you're saying. We really it's 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:48.599 limited science. Most studies are pretty small, and I think 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.400 some of the benefits might be more like feel good 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.400 than medically proven. And it's short tom term results, and 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.560 you could risk crossbite and cold burn, and what if 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.760 you have heard disease or high blood pressure poor circulation. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.320 I mean, all those are you cannot do that stuff 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.160 if you have those. But have you read about people 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.920 who just take a two minute cold shower in the morning. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:14.920 No, but I'd like to hear more about it if 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:15.680 you know about it. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.760 Well, the cold shower routine, I do it. You know, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.120 if you get done with the run, you know, you're 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.599 in the shower two minutes and you know, nice cold 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.520 shower and then put the heatpock on your body, and 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.320 it does it might serve the same purpose. And think 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.880 about it, Tom, all the money you save and more 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.799 the time you save. Like that's the other thing about 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.760 all these health AADs there really nice and they do 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:48.400 serve a purpose, But at what cost money financially and 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.680 your time? And is there something better you could do, 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.640 like go on a vacation, go to the beach, you know, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.120 take a day off. These are all other things that 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.839 maybe when you google all the symptoms, Google comes back 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.800 and says, hey, why don't you go take a nap? 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:06.799 Right exactly? 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.039 You know, it should be noted we're talking about this 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:15.320 and most of the time it is highly recommend that 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.680 you consult with your doctor before you ever start thinking 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:23.240 about doing these cold plunges, because you just mentioned it. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:28.240 It can put an enormous strain on your heart, especially 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:35.240 if you have heart issues respiratory issues. Any prolonged exposure 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.240 to cold water obviously can lead to hypothermia. So while 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.520 a lot of people talk about this like, you know, 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:46.839 everything's groovy, everything's perfect, you better make sure that you're 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:51.160 the kind of person who's body and heart and lungs 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:57.000 can handle even thinking about doing these extreme conditions kind 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:57.960 of things. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.520 And that might be the best point of all, Tom, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.200 because you don't want to find out you have a 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.359 heart condition in the middle of your cold plunch. But 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.520 the other thing, Tom, is the cryotherapy. Have you heard 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:09.200 about that? 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:10.800 I have and I've never tried it. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.160 If you tried it, yes, what you do is you 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.760 step into this chamber and it's negative two hundred degrees 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.560 and it's for about two to four minutes. You have 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:27.560 to wear gloves, a hat, sock, and it's expensive and 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:28.200 it's time. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:29.960 Let me let me, let me, let me interrupt you 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.520 real quick, okay, because I've never done it, and and 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.800 and and that's what I understand. You're only in there 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.240 for a couple of minutes. You talked about a hat, gloves, socks. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.320 Are you wearing like sweatpants, you're wearing shorts? What are 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:41.720 you wearing? 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.840 Yeah, you wear short you know, limited clothing. And it's 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.800 the same idea. You reduce his inflammation, your body speeds 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.560 up recovery, you can boost your mood. People say, oh, 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.160 it just puts me in the best mood. But the 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.080 other thing, the science is limited short results, which we 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.680 talked about. And the other thing, it's not regulated by 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.800 the FDA. So you know they're pipe in liquid nitrogen 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:16.160 or refrigerated air into that chamber and you're My doctor said, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.880 he's like, you don't know. You know is because none 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.080 of this is regulated. So and then let's get back 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.280 to it's expensive. When'd you rather just take a cold 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:34.599 shower and plan your beach vacation. That's where I struggle 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:39.160 with a lot of these health sads. What do you 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:39.880 think about that? 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:40.920 You know what? 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.360 It strikes me when you and I were talking about 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.880 this yesterday, about discussitting on the show today, I was 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.000 really really surprised because virtual, I mean right where we are, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.920 right now, right across the street, there is a cryotherapy 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.880 office building and I was stunned when you shared with me, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.800 and you just shared it with a everybody at home 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.640 about how the FDA has not cleared or approved of 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.200 any of this stuff. They've not said that it's safe, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.640 they've not said that it's effective in treating any medical condition. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:19.720 I just assumed that, because they seemingly are everywhere right, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.680 that right, that these things had at least some or 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:30.120 at least enough science behind it where the FDA would say, Okay, cool, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.880 no problem, knock yourself out if that's what you want 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:33.160 to do. 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.120 But that's not the case, not at all. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.520 And then you know, you ask yourself those same three questions, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.120 Does it make sense? If it sounds extreme, you know 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.320 it probably is? Question number two? Does it feel good 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.760 long term? No? I was completely miserable these icepaths. I 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.680 was miserable. I think I was more stressed thinking about 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.440 the misery. And the third question I always ask does 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.720 it fit with your real life? Can you afford it 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.120 to have the time? Would you rather take a nap? 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.240 Would you rather save the money for a family outing? 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.120 Would it better just to be go take a walk, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.040 you know, in the winter, Go take a walk in 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.640 the winter, and you've got all your problem solved, and 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.360 you just saved yourself one hundred dollars in an hour 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:19.920 of your time. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:20.720 You know, it's funny. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.240 When we moved back to Cincinnati back in two thousand 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.040 and seven, my father in law, who is was for 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.120 years and years and years. He was one of these 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.520 ironman triathletes right did Hawaii, you know, the whole nine yards. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.480 He got to our house before we had moved from 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:44.080 Arizona to Cincinnati. We had two doctors living next door 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.000 to us, husband and a wife. There had been a 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.680 ton of snow the day before we were supposed to arrive, 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:57.400 and my father in law was outside, great physical shape. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.679 This guy he's outside in the cold, freezing air, was 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:06.840 like ten degrees shoveling the driveway. The neighbor the guy 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.840 comes out, looks at my father in law's never seen him, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.400 never met him, know nothing, and he says to him, sir, 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.680 do you mind if I ask what you're doing? He says, well, 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.880 I'm shoveling. He says, oh, no, I understand what you're doing, 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:25.120 But don't you understand the risk of being in this 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.520 cold air and your lungs inhaling this cold air while 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.000 you're exercising. It's he said in the hospital in the winter. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.200 This is the number one thing we see for heart 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:43.880 attacks in senior citizens. Are men and or women out 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:49.079 there shoveling snow in freezing conditions? I just wonder, And 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.160 again there's no science one way or the other. I 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.440 just wonder for your heart. And that's specifically what he's 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.400 talking about about the exercise and the cold and inhaling 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.520 it into your life lungs. I just I mean, I look, 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.720 I don't know one way or the other. I don't 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.080 do it. I have friends that do do it, they 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.200 like it, they swear by it. But I just wonder 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.600 without a lot of medical science behind it, I just wonder, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.920 at the end of the day, is it good for you? 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.960 Yeah? And then the other question, aren't we all trying 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.319 to simplify our life and now we're making it more complicated. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.880 We're adding all these things in because perhaps Instagram said 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.880 it's wonderful, you know, and the impact of social media 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.120 influing and fluent thing us as opposed to a good 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.280 old doctor's appointment where the doctor looks you and says 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.559 you are enough, You're doing enough. Let's not add more in. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.880 Let's do three things, sleep more, eat less, and I 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.560 want you to exercise more and not any of those 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.440 three things included. Okay, I got to get to my 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.760 appointment for my cold punch, okay, cryotherapy on Wednesday. Then 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.280 oh yeah, I'm doing that inter minute fans saying, oh 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.840 and I got to put that weighted death on on Friday. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:09.040 I mean, I'm exhausted just talking about it. I mean, 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.040 I know we'll cover a lot of these health ads, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:17.200 but I think we're trying trying too hard. Somewhere along 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.080 the way, we've kind of lost that self worth that 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.959 says I am, Okay, everything's going to be okay. There's 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.920 no perfect way to do things, but there's a hundred 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.000 good ways. And these are my good ways, not what 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.480 Instagram told me, not what the latest my neighbor's doing. 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.400 But this is going to work for me and the 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.600 health SAIDs And I want to be certain that you know, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.000 we said there's pros and cons, but I think a 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.160 lot of times Tom and I think you know we 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.120 talked about this last night. I mean, the cons sometimes 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.480 so outweigh the pros that it just makes sense to 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.200 keep on keeping on with you know, the successful things 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.240 you're doing, and you know, save your time, save your 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.959 money for all the other things that really matter. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.240 That's right, that's right, Jules. It's always great being with you. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:09.760 I hope you have a great rest of your Tuesday, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.400 and we'll catch up again next week. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:13.600 Oh we will, all right. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.880 Julius for day kind enough to join us as she 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.600 does every Tuesday at eight thirty eight here on the 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.040 Morning Show seven undred WLW. And it's been a crazy 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.480 morning out there on the road.