1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Alright, a eight thirty nine here on the Big One 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: seven underd WLW. Welcome to the Morning Show. And we 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: do this every Tuesday. We get together with former United 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: States Olympian Julie is for Ding, who, by the way, 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: is always out in the business world, television radios, speaking engagements, 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: you name it, she does it and does it great. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Julie, Good morning, Good morning Tom. How's everything with you today? 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: It's great. I love my Tuesdays with Tom so much 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: to talk about. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: And we get into lots of different things. So we're 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: going to over the next couple of weeks, we're going 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: to get into some of these I'm gonna call them. 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not the right word, maybe fads isn't the 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: right word, but you know, whether it's intermittent fasting. 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: We'll get into that next week. 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: IV vitamin drips, these R rings, weighted vest protein diarits, 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But two things I want to 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: get into today. I was talking about and you and 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I were talking about this. I've always been fascinated by 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 1: the people that go climb Mount Everest and they're exposed 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: to these off the charts extreme weather conditions and how 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: their bodies react and so forth. One are the sort 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: of hot things right now is what's called a cold plunge. 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people know what this is. It's 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: basically the practice of briefly submerging your body in cold water, 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: typically between fifty and sixty degrees and some of the 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: health benefits that have been proven to come about from this. 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: This is something though that is not new. 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: You were around this going back to your days in 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: the eighties, and a lot of football players, athletes, they've 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: been doing this for a while already, right, Yeah. 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: These cold plunges at the Olympics. At the Olympic Village, 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: we had a huge healthcare facility and in it were 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: these cold punges. Oh they were awful. They were about 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: fifty nine degrees. We went in there after big workout, 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: and you know, we went in there, we'd have to 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: stay in them. I thought they were torture, but they 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: were proven to reduce inflammation really quickly in your body, 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: speed up recovery, which is what we needed because we 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: were practicing and competing. And obviously they can boost your 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: mood and improve your circulation as well. And then there's 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: some studies out there that you know, would help you 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: with your sleep, and obviously at the Olympics or football 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: players are any high level athletes very very nervous. So 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: you know, if you can sleep better, you do better. 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: So all these things were supposed to be part of 48 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: this cold plunge, but I'll tell you I was misible 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: every second I got in those I dreaded them, and 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: now they're here for the public. I mean, you can 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 3: pay a lot of money ninety two one hundred dollars 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: to go sit in an ice bath. Essentially it's an 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: ice bath. And and you're right, you know, the people 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: about climb Mount Everest or my Bill Keating, a good 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: past friend of mine. He has to swim the English Channel, 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: so he would do icebath to get him ready for 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 3: the competition, or you know, to swim. 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: In cold water. 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but sometimes I question. I mean, obviously it is benefits, 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: but I'm talking about high level competition, high level events 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: in your life, like climbie Mount Everest. But for the 62 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: average American to go through that must much misery. Don't 63 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: you think it stresses your body as well? I mean, 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: can you see the cons in that? 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: You know, I've got a friend of mine across the 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: street he was a former college athlete so too with 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: his wife, and they have a small one in their house. 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: And I mean he will talk to you from now 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: until the end of time about what a difference it 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: has made for him and the way he feels and 71 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: his ability to recover, like you're talking about like you 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: were doing back in the eighties and other athletes were doing. 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, whether it's reducing the inflammation, reducing the soreness. 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: There have been some studies It says it increases the 75 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: level of dopamine indorphins, which gives you that, you know, 76 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: reduce stress, that sort of euphoria. You know all about 77 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: that where the runner is high. I just wonder, you know, 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: can can you do this taking a cold shower. I 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: don't mean to be flipping about it, but I mean 80 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: it could it serve the same purpose. 81 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: See, I think I agree more with you and all 82 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: the things you know that you're saying. We really it's 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: limited science. Most studies are pretty small, and I think 84 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: some of the benefits might be more like feel good 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: than medically proven. And it's short tom term results, and 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: you could risk crossbite and cold burn, and what if 87 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: you have heard disease or high blood pressure poor circulation. 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: I mean, all those are you cannot do that stuff 89 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: if you have those. But have you read about people 90 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: who just take a two minute cold shower in the morning. 91 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: No, but I'd like to hear more about it if 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: you know about it. 93 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: Well, the cold shower routine, I do it. You know, 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: if you get done with the run, you know, you're 95 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: in the shower two minutes and you know, nice cold 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: shower and then put the heatpock on your body, and 97 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: it does it might serve the same purpose. And think 98 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: about it, Tom, all the money you save and more 99 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 3: the time you save. Like that's the other thing about 100 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: all these health AADs there really nice and they do 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: serve a purpose, But at what cost money financially and 102 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: your time? And is there something better you could do, 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: like go on a vacation, go to the beach, you know, 104 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: take a day off. These are all other things that 105 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: maybe when you google all the symptoms, Google comes back 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: and says, hey, why don't you go take a nap? 107 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: Right exactly? 108 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: You know, it should be noted we're talking about this 109 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: and most of the time it is highly recommend that 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: you consult with your doctor before you ever start thinking 111 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: about doing these cold plunges, because you just mentioned it. 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: It can put an enormous strain on your heart, especially 113 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: if you have heart issues respiratory issues. Any prolonged exposure 114 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: to cold water obviously can lead to hypothermia. So while 115 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about this like, you know, 116 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: everything's groovy, everything's perfect, you better make sure that you're 117 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: the kind of person who's body and heart and lungs 118 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: can handle even thinking about doing these extreme conditions kind 119 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: of things. 120 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: And that might be the best point of all, Tom, 121 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: because you don't want to find out you have a 122 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: heart condition in the middle of your cold plunch. But 123 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: the other thing, Tom, is the cryotherapy. Have you heard 124 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: about that? 125 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: I have and I've never tried it. 126 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: If you tried it, yes, what you do is you 127 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: step into this chamber and it's negative two hundred degrees 128 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: and it's for about two to four minutes. You have 129 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: to wear gloves, a hat, sock, and it's expensive and 130 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: it's time. 131 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Let me let me, let me, let me interrupt you 132 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: real quick, okay, because I've never done it, and and 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: and and that's what I understand. You're only in there 134 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes. You talked about a hat, gloves, socks. 135 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Are you wearing like sweatpants, you're wearing shorts? What are 136 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: you wearing? 137 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you wear short you know, limited clothing. And it's 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: the same idea. You reduce his inflammation, your body speeds 139 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: up recovery, you can boost your mood. People say, oh, 140 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: it just puts me in the best mood. But the 141 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: other thing, the science is limited short results, which we 142 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: talked about. And the other thing, it's not regulated by 143 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: the FDA. So you know they're pipe in liquid nitrogen 144 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: or refrigerated air into that chamber and you're My doctor said, 145 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: he's like, you don't know. You know is because none 146 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: of this is regulated. So and then let's get back 147 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: to it's expensive. When'd you rather just take a cold 148 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 3: shower and plan your beach vacation. That's where I struggle 149 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: with a lot of these health sads. What do you 150 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: think about that? 151 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: You know what? 152 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: It strikes me when you and I were talking about 153 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: this yesterday, about discussitting on the show today, I was 154 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: really really surprised because virtual, I mean right where we are, 155 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: right now, right across the street, there is a cryotherapy 156 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: office building and I was stunned when you shared with me, 157 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: and you just shared it with a everybody at home 158 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: about how the FDA has not cleared or approved of 159 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: any of this stuff. They've not said that it's safe, 160 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: they've not said that it's effective in treating any medical condition. 161 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: I just assumed that, because they seemingly are everywhere right, 162 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: that right, that these things had at least some or 163 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: at least enough science behind it where the FDA would say, Okay, cool, 164 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: no problem, knock yourself out if that's what you want 165 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: to do. 166 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: But that's not the case, not at all. 167 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: And then you know, you ask yourself those same three questions, 168 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: Does it make sense? If it sounds extreme, you know 169 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: it probably is? Question number two? Does it feel good 170 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: long term? No? I was completely miserable these icepaths. I 171 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: was miserable. I think I was more stressed thinking about 172 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: the misery. And the third question I always ask does 173 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: it fit with your real life? Can you afford it 174 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: to have the time? Would you rather take a nap? 175 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: Would you rather save the money for a family outing? 176 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: Would it better just to be go take a walk, 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: you know, in the winter, Go take a walk in 178 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: the winter, and you've got all your problem solved, and 179 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: you just saved yourself one hundred dollars in an hour 180 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: of your time. 181 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. 182 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: When we moved back to Cincinnati back in two thousand 183 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: and seven, my father in law, who is was for 184 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: years and years and years. He was one of these 185 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: ironman triathletes right did Hawaii, you know, the whole nine yards. 186 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: He got to our house before we had moved from 187 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Arizona to Cincinnati. We had two doctors living next door 188 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: to us, husband and a wife. There had been a 189 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: ton of snow the day before we were supposed to arrive, 190 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: and my father in law was outside, great physical shape. 191 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: This guy he's outside in the cold, freezing air, was 192 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: like ten degrees shoveling the driveway. The neighbor the guy 193 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: comes out, looks at my father in law's never seen him, 194 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: never met him, know nothing, and he says to him, sir, 195 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: do you mind if I ask what you're doing? He says, well, 196 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm shoveling. He says, oh, no, I understand what you're doing, 197 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: But don't you understand the risk of being in this 198 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: cold air and your lungs inhaling this cold air while 199 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: you're exercising. It's he said in the hospital in the winter. 200 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: This is the number one thing we see for heart 201 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: attacks in senior citizens. Are men and or women out 202 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: there shoveling snow in freezing conditions? I just wonder, And 203 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: again there's no science one way or the other. I 204 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: just wonder for your heart. And that's specifically what he's 205 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: talking about about the exercise and the cold and inhaling 206 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: it into your life lungs. I just I mean, I look, 207 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know one way or the other. I don't 208 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: do it. I have friends that do do it, they 209 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: like it, they swear by it. But I just wonder 210 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: without a lot of medical science behind it, I just wonder, 211 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, is it good for you? 212 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? And then the other question, aren't we all trying 213 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: to simplify our life and now we're making it more complicated. 214 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: We're adding all these things in because perhaps Instagram said 215 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: it's wonderful, you know, and the impact of social media 216 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: influing and fluent thing us as opposed to a good 217 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: old doctor's appointment where the doctor looks you and says 218 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 3: you are enough, You're doing enough. Let's not add more in. 219 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: Let's do three things, sleep more, eat less, and I 220 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: want you to exercise more and not any of those 221 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: three things included. Okay, I got to get to my 222 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: appointment for my cold punch, okay, cryotherapy on Wednesday. Then 223 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm doing that inter minute fans saying, oh 224 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: and I got to put that weighted death on on Friday. 225 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm exhausted just talking about it. I mean, 226 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: I know we'll cover a lot of these health ads, 227 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: but I think we're trying trying too hard. Somewhere along 228 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: the way, we've kind of lost that self worth that 229 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 3: says I am, Okay, everything's going to be okay. There's 230 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: no perfect way to do things, but there's a hundred 231 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: good ways. And these are my good ways, not what 232 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: Instagram told me, not what the latest my neighbor's doing. 233 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: But this is going to work for me and the 234 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: health SAIDs And I want to be certain that you know, 235 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: we said there's pros and cons, but I think a 236 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: lot of times Tom and I think you know we 237 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: talked about this last night. I mean, the cons sometimes 238 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: so outweigh the pros that it just makes sense to 239 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: keep on keeping on with you know, the successful things 240 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: you're doing, and you know, save your time, save your 241 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 3: money for all the other things that really matter. 242 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, Jules. It's always great being with you. 243 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: I hope you have a great rest of your Tuesday, 244 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: and we'll catch up again next week. 245 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: Oh we will, all right. 246 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Julius for day kind enough to join us as she 247 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: does every Tuesday at eight thirty eight here on the 248 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Morning Show seven undred WLW. And it's been a crazy 249 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: morning out there on the road.