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Speaker 1: We got Steve Last at the bottom of the hour

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Speaker 1: to talk about the life.

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Speaker 2: And times of the late great Bill Maserowski.

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Speaker 1: But right now we're gonna keep wrapping up the Olympic

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Speaker 1: Hockey Tournament with Mount Lebanon Zone. You see him on

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Speaker 1: Sports at Pittsburgh. He's former NHL defenseman Matt Bartkowski. Matt,

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Speaker 1: what's your take on our local boys, Trochick and Miller.

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Speaker 1: They did a great job on the p K eighteen

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Speaker 1: out of eighteen on the tournament, and that five on

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Speaker 1: three on Sunday was epic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was unbelievable. I mean, being able to kill

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Speaker 3: every single penalty, I mean that's something in and of itself,

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Speaker 3: and then that five on three was just the icing

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Speaker 3: on the cake. And then the other situations. I mean

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Speaker 3: they're out there and D zone, you know D zone

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Speaker 3: draws and the games I mean they're playing. They were

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Speaker 3: playing the hard minutes and based on you know, teams

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Speaker 3: they've been on and being more different roles, the scoring roles.

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Speaker 3: Vin Spence maybe a little more playing playing those minutes

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Speaker 3: all the time, but Jt especially just more power play,

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Speaker 3: you know, getting points and stuff, being able to fill

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Speaker 3: just awesome.

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Speaker 1: What's that take to kill a five on three? I

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Speaker 1: know you've done it. It's a weird setup because usually

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes a little bit of luck in a

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Speaker 3: really good goalie. I think Hella Bucks obviously the big

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Speaker 3: reason they killed that one off and inevitably won the game.

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Speaker 3: But may it depends on what the other team's doing,

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Speaker 3: which in the case of that game, I really didn't

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Speaker 3: like how it was. Canada was almost in still a

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Speaker 3: one to three one setup or even you know, more

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Speaker 3: which is pretty pretty standard. And then you see mccarr

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Speaker 3: then once one of them gets out of position, which

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Speaker 3: say on a backdoor pass or a scene pass, but

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Speaker 3: you know they didn't. Canada helped them a little bit,

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Speaker 3: just stayed so tight. They didn't let any of those

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Speaker 3: kill you on a five on three. And then hellabuck

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Speaker 3: is still on his head. I mean, that was that

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that Trocheck and Miller needed to

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Speaker 1: be vindicated bart because they're obviously great players, but they

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Speaker 1: were somewhat controversial picks over guys like robertson the cawfield.

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Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I'm even happier for them because

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Speaker 1: had the US lost, whether rightly or wrongly, fingers might

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think they certainly would have got pointed.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're right that they sort of needed

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Speaker 3: you know, highest point getting whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 3: Vincent JT were picked to play the hard minutes, play

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Speaker 1: Now, did anybody on the US surprise you per se

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Speaker 3: Matt Boldie and how good he is only only played

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Bartkowski here on the Mark Madden Show.

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Speaker 1: How good are the US brothers? Bart and how much

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Speaker 1: do you like them as players?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean Jack Hughes he's built for the

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Speaker 3: Hughes is probably gonna score here. He's just high level,

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Speaker 1: No, and they're in the wrong time zone that's Central

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Speaker 1: cliche question. How much of a difference does he make?

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Speaker 1: I even at seventy percent, if that's what he was bart,

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Speaker 1: No, No, I always say what could have happened? Did

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Speaker 1: now I know the answer to this already. But did

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Speaker 1: you like three on three over time in those playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Because old school says no, but they were very exciting.

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't like it at all. It was me, yeah, yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest part of it here is that

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Speaker 2: So I get it.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I like the exciting moments, But

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Speaker 1: it begs the question what happened on that overtime goal

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Speaker 1: Barton he put forth a notion that McDavid, mccarr and McKinnon,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they were exhausted or not.

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Speaker 1: Is always great stuff. Thanks for the input. We'll do

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Speaker 1: Matt Bart Cooski from Sports at Pittsburgh played in the

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Speaker 3: Should he be?

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Speaker 1: And we'll hockey afford him that opportunity. The trains move

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Speaker 4: Every weekday that's slowing from Banksville Road to Green Tree

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Speaker 3: Coaching, say one oh five nine.

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Speaker 1: and we got uh Steve Blast talking about Bill Mazeroski.

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Speaker 1: to John, John, you're on with Mark.

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Speaker 3: I'm Mark? What up? John?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 6: You think with Yager officially retiring now, he will be

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Speaker 1: Anything else, that's all yep. Yeah, what would make you

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Speaker 1: And if he did say that, well we've heard that

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Dick.

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Speaker 1: That's something isn't it to get an assist and have

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Speaker 2: But I have a suspicion. I don't have any stats

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Speaker 1: Happens quite a bit in three on three because the

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Speaker 3: Right. But regarding the trade, the good is, I've been

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Speaker 1: I've been reading some tweets from guys like Eric Johnson,

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Speaker 2: But that's a good thing to hear.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's once. The bad is he's definitely injury prone, right,

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Speaker 5: Games, ten games, whatever.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, Hey, I want to get your opinion on

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Speaker 6: Tom Wilson at his presidence there. He's brought in to

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Speaker 6: And what do you think of this play?

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Speaker 1: Well, you can't, you can't fight the Olympics. I think

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Speaker 1: Wilson's a waste of space having a lucky year. I

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Speaker 2: And he wasted a roster spot for Canada.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 1: Tom Wilson wait hosted a roster spot for Canada.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: We lost an all time pirate great on Friday when

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to Steve Blass. Steve, thanks for

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Speaker 5: Absolutely Mark and good to be with you again. You

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Speaker 5: He helped me go from being a ballplayer to a

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Speaker 5: But he was one. He was just a great person

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Speaker 1: It's funny because, as you said, Steve Mas didn't brag

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Speaker 5: heard it? And all that kind of stuff. He never

436
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: said no, He never turned down. You know, he always

437
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 5: considered answering those requests, and he was very much aware

438
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 5: of the impact that home run made on the city

439
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 5: of Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh Pirates, the game of baseball. But yeah,

440
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 5: he didn't need a brag about it. But you know,

441
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 5: the thing is watching him play second base, and you know,

442
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 5: there's no reason the best second basement of all times

443
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 5: shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. It shouldn't have

444
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 5: taken that long, but he's in there. I sometimes when

445
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 5: I go out and talk, I said, you know, I'm

446
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 5: one of the few people that know the second half

447
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 5: of Mass's Hall of Fame speech, And then he said,

448
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 5: what is it? I said, that's right.

449
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: He broke down real quick and wrapped it up. But

450
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: that was somehow appropriate because that was just so Bill

451
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: Mazeroski and Steve. I was a kid when I first

452
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: saw Mass play, and he was in his prime in

453
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: the field, well his prime period, because what a clutch

454
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: Hittery was, which we'll get to in a moment, but

455
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: seeing him turn a double play was like a magic trick.

456
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: He got rid of it so quick. When I'm a kid,

457
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: I like, what's he doing? I couldn't figure it out.

458
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 5: Well, the thing is, I was the same way when

459
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 5: I went to spring training as an eighteen year old

460
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty one. I watched him, How does that happen?

461
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 5: And you know I got to figure it out because

462
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: I saw him so much. That ball coming from a

463
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 5: shortstop or a third basement. It just bounced off that

464
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 5: crap golfy glove he had, but it just bounced. He

465
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 5: had the throwing hand was right there and the ball

466
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 5: just bounced, you know, a couple of inches, but it

467
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 5: slapped that leather into the throwing hand and it turned direction.

468
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 5: It was incredible, and you know him and him and

469
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 5: Groat and then him and Geene Alley. Uh, unbelievable stuff

470
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 5: he did. You know, I always go back mark to

471
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 5: the fact that he set those records on a piece

472
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 5: of crap infield, to be quite honest, Oh.

473
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: The alabaster plaster Forbes field, it was like impossible.

474
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 5: To read, oh, I know. And when we would anytime

475
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 5: we went on a road trip, they would put the

476
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 5: tarp on it and bake it until we got back.

477
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: And you know, opposing infielders, several teams would not take

478
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 5: infield practice for that reason. It was so rough, and

479
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 5: you know, you don't know what the bounce is going

480
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 5: to do. Well, the Yankees found out what the bouce

481
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 5: could do, and the boughs hid Tony Kubeck in the

482
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 5: throat an obvious double playball. But I respect the guys

483
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 5: that broke his record in a way because of the

484
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 5: numbers that are good players. Would I would present the

485
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 5: fact that I don't think they might have broken those

486
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 5: records if they had to play on the same surface.

487
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: Maz held all the DP records, no doubt, and just

488
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: I agree, Steve the best second baseman I've ever seen, certainly,

489
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: and part of that was he made fielding into a science,

490
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: as he proved when he helped make Neil Walker into

491
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: a second basement after Neil had never played there.

492
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Speaker 2: He was a big factor.

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, Yeah, Neil was a catcher originally. And I

494
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 5: talked to Neil about that very thing the day before yesterday,

495
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 5: went to the game in Florida, and Neil is gushing

496
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Speaker 5: about the way that Neil that Maz helped him, the

497
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 5: way that Maz dealt with him as a person, and yeah, yeah,

498
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 5: that's not easy to do at the major league level.

499
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 5: Come on, and Maz had plenty of time for that,

500
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: and he had time for everybody. That's that's the thing.

501
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: You know. He never liked to talk a lot. He

502
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 5: was a reluctant hero. But if you approached him, he

503
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 5: had time for you. And you know that's the milia

504
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 5: he helped me. You know, I was thinking about that.

505
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 5: There's three things that he really helped me with early, early,

506
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: when I was a young kid. Come just to spring

507
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 5: training with those guys. First of all, when I was

508
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 5: a rookie in sixty four, he's you know, it was

509
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: tough love. He said, you know, hey, you're in the

510
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 5: big leagues now, no excuses. Nobody cares about why you failed.

511
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: They want to hear about why you succeeded. And then

512
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: he said, you know, don't ever forget the name on

513
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: the front of the uniform is more important in the back.

514
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 5: And then it kind of a subtle thing, he said, Steve,

515
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 5: if somebody flatters you enough by asking for your autograph,

516
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 5: write it so they can read it. You know, mass

517
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: could have just signed mask forever and it would have

518
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: been fine. His signature is one of the best on

519
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 5: the Bubblegump cars and stuff. So every time he turned around,

520
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 5: he helped me go from again from being a ballplayer

521
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 5: to a major leaguer. And you know, we actually roomed

522
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 5: a couple of years. And here's a story that I

523
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 5: think you'll enjoy. September fifth, nineteen sixty nine, I hit

524
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 5: my only home run in big leagues. Blom and I

525
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 5: were Madsen together on his birthday. That was his birthday

526
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 5: Chicago home game. We're back on the street celebrating his birthday.

527
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 5: My home run at four o'clock in the afternoon, and

528
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 5: we made it count the next day. I had four

529
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 5: days coming off. He had to play the next day,

530
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 5: and when we got back after the game, he said,

531
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 5: every ball went up in the infield. I saw seven

532
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: balls and I caught him all.

533
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: We're talking to Steve last about the great Bill Mazerowski

534
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: here on the Mark Madden Show. I got to ask

535
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: you about his glove because when I was a kid,

536
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: I was sitting down close to the first baseline at

537
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: Forestfield with my mother and Mas was my favorite part.

538
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: By the way, I have both your autographs from back

539
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: then to prove what you just said about about signing autographs.

540
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: And I saw him Ass's glove and how flimsy and

541
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: little it was, and I said to my mom, because

542
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: mass was my favorite part, I want a glove like that.

543
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: And my mom had seen me feel and knew.

544
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: I needed a lot more help and said it's not

545
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: such a good idea, but talk about that glove.

546
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: Steve, Well, you know, the whole background of that glove

547
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 5: was there wasn't so much leather that the ball could

548
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 5: get stuck in it. It was just it was kind

549
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 5: of just a rebound piece of leather for him to

550
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: have it hit. And that glove bounce into very quickly,

551
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 5: automatically into the throwing hand. And that's what made him

552
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 5: so quick. There was you know, it looked like crap,

553
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: but it worked for Bill because there was nothing to

554
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 5: it other than just a surface to bounce it back

555
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: into that throwing hand. And you know, and not only yeah,

556
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: we talk about the double play, we talk about the

557
00:28:53,240 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 5: tough surface at Forbes Field, but you know, you tests

558
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 5: on the fact that he could get hits when they

559
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 5: were needed as evidence maybe by that home run. Perhaps

560
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 5: not just that home run. No, No, he was he

561
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: was a solid hitter. He solid Nobody pays attention to that,

562
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: but you know, he was a complete he was the

563
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: complete major league baseball player.

564
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: And not even talking yet about personality, because he was

566
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: he was terrifical. He was terrifical of the fans, the media.

567
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: You know, he didn't like to speak and and do

568
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 5: a lot of interview stuff. But he did it because

569
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 5: it was part of the deal and got to know

570
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: him so well. And I just I just value the

571
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 5: time that, you know, I came up when there were

572
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 5: still some of those sixty guys left and that group

573
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: of Bob Friend and Vernon Law and mass you know,

574
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 5: what an environment to grow up in the big leagues with.

575
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: Now you've been around Pittsburgh a long time. Is Mas's

576
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: home run the biggest moment in Pittsburgh sports history? I

577
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: think it isn't It even predates me, albeit by just

578
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: a couple of months. Steve, And I think that's the

579
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: biggest upset ever in baseball.

580
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I mean it was. It was

581
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: a nonsensical game, ten to nine, not one strikeout in

582
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: that game, and uh, somebody who was somebody was going

583
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: to do something spectacular. And you know, we talk about

584
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 5: Franco's immacular reception and Stanley Cups. Yep, I respect all

585
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 5: of them. But baseball owned sports when back when exactly it.

586
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: Was the big it was like football is now, maybe

587
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: bigger without the benefit of social media and the camera being.

588
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 5: Everywhere, absolutely, and you know, you know, and then and

589
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: then Mask and Miley and go up and sit in

590
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: Shanley Park and just and just talk.

591
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: About it after Game seven.

592
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh my god. And you know, just yeah,

593
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: he I think it's there's nothing bigger because of timing

594
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 5: as I said during that during that age. And you

595
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: know Mickey Manno didn't hit a home run of the

596
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 5: ninth doing it. Roger Marris didn't. Oh, this guy the

597
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: second Basement from the Pirates did it. And it just

598
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 5: think think of Clemeny's legacy and then think of Mass's legacy.

599
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you got maybe tied for first in the

600
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 5: overall picture, but the spectacular nature of Mass has to

601
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 5: take the cake.

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00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: Steve, thank you so much for joining me. And I

603
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: got to tell you I would give anything to be

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00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: back at Forbes Field one more time.

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00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: How about you.

606
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely you know that was my field when I came

607
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: up in the big leagues four fifty seven to center.

608
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 5: What a place to fish except for the ball I

609
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 5: threw to William McCovey over the four fifty seven son

610
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: signed that a friend of mine says, every Monday evening

611
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 5: at ten o'clock in the eastern sky, you can you'll

612
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 5: see that ball going around the earth. Other than that,

613
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 5: it was. It was great. It's always good to be

614
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: with him.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve. Great stuff, and I hope I talk

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00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: to you soon.

617
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: My pleasure to look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: That's the great Steve Blast talking about Bill Mazerowski and

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Speaker 1: I and I do. I wasn't kidding, I have. I

620
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: was an autograph kid. I have so many Steve Blast autographs,

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Speaker 1: so many Bill Mazeroski autographs, so many Roberto Clementi autographs.

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00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: What a gracious group of guys that was back then,

623
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Speaker 1: and with one exception, but no need to bring that up.

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00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, Bill Mazeroski and I told this story Friday

625
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: when we got the news that mass passed. The first

626
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: fan letter I ever wrote as a kid, I was nine.

627
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I wrote Bill Mazerowski and he sent me back an

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00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: autograph postcard, which I still have and I will treasure

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Speaker 1: that till the day I die. Time not ass mark

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Speaker 2: That's People's Hyphengas dot com. Let's go to a talkback

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Speaker 2: first at Double M.

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Speaker 9: What was that nonsense saying Crosby was trying to keep

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Speaker 9: somebody off of the Canadian roster.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's crazy. There's nothing in his back.

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Speaker 2: This guy off there. It was a stupid thing.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said Crosby lobby to keep Connor Bdard off Team

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Speaker 1: Canada because he didn't go to the World Championships last year.

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Speaker 2: That's just nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Just didn't happen, totally, something Sid would never consider doing.

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Speaker 1: And when I've spoken to Sid, he's always spoken very

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Speaker 1: highly of Connor Bdard as a player and as a kid.

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Speaker 2: So just did not happen. Let's go a talkback.

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Speaker 3: If you could pick any man to do the two

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Speaker 3: man lose with, who would it be?

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Speaker 2: And why Zach Effrin? For obvious reasons? What's good of Tim?

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Speaker 2: Tim Rerell with Double M.

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Speaker 9: BI Mark Tom thought this would be appropriate to tell

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Speaker 9: this Bill Masarowski story during this segment. But a couple

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Speaker 9: of years ago, Chas Palm and Terry brought his one

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Speaker 9: man show to Pittsburgh about a Bronx tale, which the

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Speaker 9: story of his life is in the fifties as a

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Speaker 9: kid in the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, because in the movie in the movie, the

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Speaker 1: kid talks about how I don't know if Bill Mazerowski's

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Speaker 1: mentioned by name in the movie, but the kid talks

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Speaker 1: about how Mickey Mantle got his heartbroken in Game seven

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Speaker 1: of the nineteen sixty World Series.

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Speaker 9: Yes, And at the play he utters the line he says,

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Speaker 9: I hate Bill Nazerowski because Bill Mazerowski made Nicky Mantle cry.

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Speaker 9: And when he did that, the entire bay in theater

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Speaker 9: Mark erupted in applause, to the point where it took

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Speaker 9: him by surprise, and he stopped for a second. But

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Speaker 9: you know, he's a proach. We got his equal irbian

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Speaker 9: back and on with the play, which was really good.

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Speaker 9: And and afterwards he came out and this was the best part.

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Speaker 9: He came out to do a chat with the audience.

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Speaker 9: Mark and he looked around. He says, I've done this

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Speaker 9: play hundreds of times. In that linees never got a remark,

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Speaker 9: but I figured you people would do that, and you

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Speaker 9: could tell even Van Mark he still hated Bill Mazeroski

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Speaker 9: for making Mickey Mall cry.

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Speaker 3: It was so good.

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Speaker 2: I'm still glad Bill Mazeroski did it. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: the call.

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Speaker 1: Leaves line open at eight three three four one two

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Speaker 1: w XDX.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 10: Hey, super genius Eric in Toledo. Hey, earlier today, you

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Speaker 10: said that New Jersey has never had any real superstars

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Speaker 10: in the NHL, and I was just curious, did you

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Speaker 10: ever consider Alexander m'gilney as one. I'm not sure I do,

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Speaker 10: but there are some who would argue mart hambro Door

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Speaker 10: was the greatest goaltender ever. Would you qualify him as

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Speaker 10: a superstar?

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Speaker 1: First off, I said that New Jersey never had a

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Speaker 1: superstar forwards, Martin Berdor was a superstar. Are arguably the

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Speaker 1: greatest goal in NHL history, has more wins than any

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Speaker 1: goal in NHL history, and has three Stanley Cupp Rings

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Speaker 1: as well. But my point has always been Goalies don't

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Speaker 1: draw money. Goalies don't sell tickets. Goalies don't get somebody

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Speaker 1: to turn on the TV. Nobody ever watches a hockey game,

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Speaker 1: whether in person or on TV, hoping the puck does

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Speaker 1: not go in the nets. Everybody wants to red light

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Speaker 1: the crowd to roar. You don't want to go into

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Speaker 1: your net, but it's still an exciting moment if it does.

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Speaker 1: The all time leading score I think for New Jersey

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Speaker 1: is Patrick Eliosh, who I would not call a superstar forward.

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Speaker 1: Alex mcgilney was a superstar forward, but he did not

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Speaker 1: spend the best years of his career with New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: So I think, didn't Alex just get in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame? If so, it was long overdue. If not,

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Speaker 1: he should be. Let's go to Steve. Steve, you're on

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Speaker 1: with double M.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Yow it up?

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Speaker 3: Hey? I had a question about your IQ. Wouldn't we

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Speaker 3: you tested?

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Speaker 2: And what test did you use?

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Speaker 3: And are you a member of MENSA?

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Speaker 1: I'm not a member of MENSA. I feel no need

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Speaker 1: to congregate with those who claim to be as smart

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Speaker 1: as me. Frankly, I adopt their claims because I've met

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Speaker 1: people who claim to have an higher IQ, but no

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Speaker 1: one who in conversation proved anything near it was tested.

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Speaker 2: It was either third or fourth grade.

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Speaker 1: I forget which test, but it was a standard test

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Speaker 1: as administered to all the kids. And I keep getting

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Speaker 1: told by people, while you should take it again, improve it.

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Speaker 1: First off, I don't need to prove anything to the citizens.

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Speaker 1: Second off, your IQ does not change. It does not

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Speaker 1: go up and down. It stays steady for your entire life.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought. Yeah, no reason or retest. I

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Speaker 3: just didn't know if you were a MENSA member or not.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's an exclusive club you should join now.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to pay the dues. Let's go to Brian.

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Speaker 2: Brian are on with double.

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Speaker 6: M Hey, Mark, Hey, I like that trade.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Do I.

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Speaker 1: I mean Gerards have an injury prone but I like

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Speaker 1: the return, including the second round pick.

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Speaker 2: The more of those you have, the better.

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Speaker 3: Right now, who would you go after for the Penguins

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Speaker 3: to make a deeper run.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're that concerned about making a deeper run.

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Speaker 1: I think they're looking toward the future. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they'd like to accommodate SIDS timetable, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a major concern, nor should it be. But

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Speaker 1: I think they might trade a I don't know, a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick, a fourth round pick for a right

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Speaker 1: handed defenseman at some point. But we'll see if they

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Speaker 1: even do that. I don't think a big deal is forthcoming.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Okay caught up mogilney's career records.

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Speaker 1: He only spent three years with the Devils, in two

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Speaker 1: different stops. In his second year, he scored forty three

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Speaker 1: goals in seventy five games. That's pretty good, and then

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Speaker 1: he scored The year before that, he only scored three

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Speaker 1: goals in twelve games, but played in the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: helped them win a Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 2: Real good player. Let's go to Cosmo.

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Speaker 1: Cosmo, you're on with double M. I, Hey, what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Connor Griffin making the team?

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Speaker 3: You think there's any chance he won't and you think

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Speaker 3: he should be sent down?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think there's a chance. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: chance he won't. I would keep him on the team.

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Speaker 1: I would take that educated risk that he can turn

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Speaker 1: out to be the type of guy that gets them

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Speaker 1: over the.

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Speaker 2: Top to a playoff.

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Speaker 1: Berth not anything ridiculous, but he had two home runes

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Speaker 1: day in spring training. The thing I don't get is

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are campaigning for him to sign

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Speaker 1: long term, Like give him one hundred and thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollar deal right now, and Okay, if it's signed, that

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Speaker 1: that'd be great. I just don't think he will. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody with his ability signs long.

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Speaker 2: Term to lose.

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Speaker 1: I think the guys who sign long term with the

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Speaker 1: Pirates are guys who have doubts and rightly so, about

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Speaker 1: their own ability, like a Brian Reynolds, like a Mitch Keller,

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Speaker 1: who want to make sure they can get the money

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Speaker 1: while it's offered. Griffin probably doesn't feel that way, just

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Speaker 1: like Paul Skeen's probably doesn't feel that way. They will

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Speaker 1: not sign long term with this team because they'll think

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Speaker 1: that the same money, and probably better money is very

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Speaker 1: likely out there, along with a much better chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback, Tom Offerman, Tommy Radio or

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Speaker 1: Tommy Hockey.

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Speaker 4: For me, it's got to be Tommy Radio, but Tommy

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Speaker 4: Hockey is really starting to grow on me.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's whatever I feel like saying at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Let's go another talkback.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, what was your initial reaction when the US

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Speaker 4: upset the Soviets in nineteen eighty Thanks?

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Speaker 1: I remember where I was. A bunch of friends of

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Speaker 1: mine were playing on a hockey trip in I think

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Speaker 1: in Massachusetts or New Hampshire. New Hampshire was against New

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Speaker 1: Hampton Prep School, trying to get those kids a look,

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Speaker 1: and we found out the result when we were on

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Speaker 1: the bus driving around so That's how I found out.

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Speaker 1: And obviously it was equal parts joy and disbelief. You

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Speaker 1: had to see it to believe, and it wasn't on

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Speaker 1: TV till later, and then when you did see it,

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Speaker 1: you still had trouble believing it. But that was my

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Speaker 1: initial reaction. Only three four one two w xdx. That's

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Speaker 1: eight three three four one two w xdx. It's the

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden Show. What a great show today. Lots of

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Speaker 1: hockey talk with Pierre MacGuire, Matt Barkowski. We talked to

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Speaker 1: Steve Blast about Mill Mazeroski, and we talked barely at

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Speaker 1: all about the Steelers because nothing is going on that

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Speaker 1: means anything. We didn't talk about the combine, it means nothing.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Omar Khan saying something stupid. I may

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Speaker 1: recap that one oh five ninety x