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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: all day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed it is Hi, Hello and welcome in our

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Speaker 2: number two of Tony Pike Sincy three sixty. No tone today,

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Speaker 2: the big Fella on the Big One later this evening

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Speaker 2: six to nine in for Lance McAllister. So it's just

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Speaker 2: you and me until three. Will turn it over to

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Speaker 2: Mo then. But right now, our typical Tuesday guest, our

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Speaker 2: guy Joe Daniman, joins me to talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: of everything, because there's a lot to talk about. First, Joe,

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Speaker 2: how was your Thanksgiving? Did you go on the run

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Speaker 2: in the morning? Did you get all the you know,

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Speaker 2: the calories burnt? How'd it go?

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Speaker 3: It went great, Austin, and I have to thank you

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Speaker 3: for the inspiration to go through with it, because I

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Speaker 3: trained for several months for the ten A Thanksgiving Day

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Speaker 3: ten k right there at TQL Skadium, running through downtown.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw the forecasts a week of and

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Speaker 3: I saw temperatures in the twenty gusty winds, and I.

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Speaker 4: Said, is it worth it?

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Speaker 3: Is it really worth it? I can run a ten

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Speaker 3: day by myself and do my own time trot. But

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Speaker 3: I said, you know what, Austin challenged me. He said,

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Speaker 3: you can't go through life scared. Yeah, it's like Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow said. And I went out there and quite honestly,

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Speaker 3: the weather was fine. It was cold, but you know,

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Speaker 3: when you run, you wore them up pretty quickly. The

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Speaker 3: I was really excited.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations to you for that. Most Bengals fans would

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Speaker 2: say it was a great thanksgiving for the way that

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow performed and getting a win in Baltimore. When

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Speaker 2: you think of that game, what stood out to you

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Speaker 2: the most? Because I know you weren't obviously in Baltimore,

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Speaker 4: What stood out to me is twofold.

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Speaker 3: First being that Zach Taylor had no problem letting.

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Speaker 3: And that's throwing thirty two passes in the first half.

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Speaker 3: That's letting him quarterback sneak.

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Speaker 4: And I talked to Zach about this yesterday. I said,

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Speaker 3: Any apprehension at all of Joe doing something like that

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Speaker 4: And he shook his head and said, no.

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Speaker 3: We knew he was ready and Joe was his normal self,

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Speaker 3: So there were no training wheels right at the start.

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Speaker 4: In fact, Zach said.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to get him on the move early, to

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Speaker 4: Field of playing like himself and being.

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Speaker 3: Comfortable running outside of the pocket and throwing on the move.

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Speaker 4: So that was one.

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Speaker 3: The second was it felt like it elevated the entire team.

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Speaker 3: And I think if you look back at the end

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Speaker 3: of the season of what's going to be one of

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Speaker 3: the great moments of the Bengals season and if this

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Speaker 3: here in the month of December, what you saw around

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Speaker 3: You don't see that often in the NFL. If you

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Speaker 3: But to see what felt like twenty or thirty different

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Speaker 3: and elevated by their quarterback, that to me was the

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Speaker 3: image of what Joe Burrow is, what he brings, Because

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Speaker 3: when we all had this debate should Joe Burrow come

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Speaker 3: that has eight losses and it's not even December, why

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Speaker 4: The outside, well, you just saw what it does for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't play defense, but he weaponizes confidence, and

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Speaker 2: And I think too, you saw while he's standing there

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Speaker 2: You saw it in the press conference there was a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I talked to DJ Turner about that yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I said, did you guys.

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Speaker 3: Realize that Joe was kind of pouring his heart out

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Speaker 4: And they said, yeah, we got it.

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Speaker 3: And that was cool for Joe. But what DJ said

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Speaker 3: and when he has the status of what Joe has,

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the word is. Burrough's presence is

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Speaker 3: such a difference maker for this organization on so many

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Speaker 2: On the opposite end of the spectrum, Trey Hendrickson once

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Speaker 2: again pretty quickly ruled out by Zach Taylor yesterday, Is

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Speaker 3: No, that's that's the problem that that we're all having

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Speaker 4: Is, right because we've heard it be.

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Speaker 3: Multiple things, and we don't see Trey much inside Bengals

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Speaker 3: that's that's just prerogative. I just feel like it feels

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Speaker 3: in itself. It's a bad look for everybody. And the

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Speaker 3: just kind of feels right now it's vindictive, and I

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Speaker 3: I mean, you asked me several weeks ago, do you

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Speaker 3: So when there isn't that sharing of information, people start

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Speaker 2: But the defensive unit that has been on the field

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Speaker 2: while Trey has been out at least over the three

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Speaker 4: So this was my.

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Speaker 3: Charge yesterday was to go inside the locker room in

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Speaker 4: Show on Wednesday night, which we'll get into later.

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Speaker 3: And then two to ask many different players on the

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Speaker 3: grader on why the defense right now seems to be

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Speaker 3: playing winning football against Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry. Now

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Speaker 3: the caveat is Lamar Jackson looks like the moond Stars

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Speaker 3: like himself. I don't know what that performance was on

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving night. And yes, the Bengals did get some breaks

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Speaker 3: But the question I took to so many players on defense,

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Speaker 3: on why the defense is playing better. Dach Taylor says,

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Speaker 3: it's twelve weeks of continuity. There's confidence when guys gel together.

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Speaker 3: now is a willingness of a defensive coordinator and a

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Speaker 4: If you go back and listen to Al Golden talk.

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Speaker 3: trying to simplify it so guys could play faster. Well,

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Speaker 3: You're seeing Al Golden be more willing to put in

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Speaker 3: more complicated looks too offenses. And if you go back

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Speaker 3: and then right before the ball is snapped, boom, Geno

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Speaker 4: So to me, it's that it's a.

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Speaker 4: So what west Miller has. The pressure's on west.

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Speaker 2: Not the only thing going on Friday night. We've got

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Speaker 2: What do you got coming up when it comes to

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to test your knowledge here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's not good, but you can test it.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm going to test your Cincinnati knowledge. If

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Speaker 3: I said, Austin, what does Cincinnati do really really well?

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Speaker 4: We would both agree that we do ice cream great? Right?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: What else does Cincinnati do well? We do chili well.

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Speaker 4: It is time for one or both of.

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Speaker 3: These teams to end Cincinnati's drought at the state championship. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Division two, Division one Anderson's a rematch of a game

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Speaker 4: In the high school football we play in this city.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned a show coming up tomorrow night. You were

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Speaker 3: As you can imagine, when a team goes on a

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Speaker 5: Imagine it was you.

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Speaker 3: But we have Ted Karris and Dalton Reisner tomorrow night

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Speaker 3: those PFF grades on the Bengals offensive line and what

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Speaker 3: we can talk about Joe Burrow, we can talk about

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Speaker 2: Ted Carris's performance this year is one of the things

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Speaker 2: but maybe we'll get to that next week. Joe, thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Anytime, Austin, and keep playing Bone Thugs in Harmony as

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Speaker 4: God, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Thank you, You're very welcome, and thank you.

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Speaker 5: And yeat. That's Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen. He's the best.

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Speaker 5: All right, we'll take a break. Your talkbacks are coming

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Speaker 6: It's our favorite tarter Saincy three sixty, So Austin, buddy, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Hello, this is longtime talkbacker and first time listener Ronald.

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Speaker 7: Hi.

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Speaker 6: Ron and Will I had some time this morning on

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Speaker 6: the Google and found a couple of interesting facts to

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Speaker 6: pass along. Did you know that our tenth president, John

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Speaker 6: and Willie Mays is the only player to hit at

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Speaker 5: I actually knew.

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Speaker 6: Well, now we've got to go find that blasted duck

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Speaker 2: I actually knew those fun facts. I remember reading about

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Speaker 8: Hi, this is the Lord. I just took some hopium

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Speaker 8: on the Bengals winning out the rest of their games

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Speaker 8: this year. I'm also giving out free hopium to talk

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Glad to hear that the Lord has still got time

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Speaker 2: after consulting deeply with Lane Keiffin.

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Speaker 3: For you, he's here.

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Speaker 9: An had asked their voters to rank the sixty eight

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Speaker 9: this and Dan Horde and they decided to give the

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Speaker 4: Way to go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw this. This is pretty cool. It's awful announcing.

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Speaker 2: And they do their college football broadcasts duos and they

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Speaker 2: sixty eight of those broadcasts, Cincinnati, Dan Hord and Tony

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Speaker 2: Pike ranked number six. And I would make the argument

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Speaker 10: Yeah, repping the city out here in sunny hot Zona.

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Speaker 5: What up, Tonny?

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Speaker 11: What up?

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Speaker 5: Body?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 11: I'm not a happy UC fan. What I watched last

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Speaker 11: night was not good. This team looks flat. I looked

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Speaker 11: at Zaber last night. They looked a little bit better

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Speaker 10: Yo, Wes, if you don't beat Zaber, we got major problems.

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Speaker 11: We don't get in this tournament. Major problems, Yo, Coach

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Speaker 11: sat Man. That's see this dumb fire hot yo Man.

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Speaker 10: Two straight seasons we lived in the season with losing streaks.

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Speaker 10: We get that crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. Get

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Speaker 10: them about it here. I'm done with Coach sat game.

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Speaker 5: The crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. Listen.

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Speaker 10: I'm just a frustrated Bearcats fan.

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Speaker 11: I watched both sides of the ball, football and basketball,

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Speaker 11: and when it comes to big games, our coaches.

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Speaker 10: Get out coached.

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Speaker 11: Our players look like they've never seen the big stage before.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's embarrassing as a Bearcats fan, man, I mean,

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Speaker 11: Just look flat out embarrassing. You want to call yourself

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Speaker 11: a power for school, look like a mid major school.

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Speaker 5: Are we still in the AAC or something?

442
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Speaker 11: You tell me, get somebody in here who can coach

443
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Speaker 11: this program and get it in the right direction.

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Speaker 5: M M.

445
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of Bearcat fans would agree with Ronnie.

446
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Speaker 2: Ron out there in sunny hot Zona.

447
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Speaker 13: Audi elm are in a big chair on they all

448
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Speaker 13: pike Everything Nation Station.

449
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Speaker 5: If the Reds and Bengals can excel at one thing,

450
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Speaker 5: it's always given us just a little bit of hope.

451
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 13: And when we think things are done now, they got

452
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Speaker 13: to go get it done.

453
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Speaker 5: It's down on business in Buffalo. Go up there and

454
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Speaker 5: dine on them Buffalo wings. All right? Man, isn't it?

455
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Speaker 5: Isn't that a good thing? Though? Wouldn't you rather now?

456
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Speaker 2: I listen, I know we've all had our hearts broken

457
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Speaker 2: many many times by the Bengals, by the Reds, Cincinnati

458
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: sports in general. But wouldn't you rather have some hope

459
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: than no hope at all? Is some hope better than

460
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 2: none at all? I would think?

461
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Speaker 7: So?

462
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 5: Hey, Austin, it's Greg.

463
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Speaker 4: You know.

464
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Speaker 14: I just think satur Day's game being inside in Indianapolis. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 14: I'll take all the weather elements out of it. I

466
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Speaker 14: just think too, it's gonna be great, a great day

467
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Speaker 14: for our buck.

468
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Speaker 5: Guys.

469
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Speaker 14: How do you feel about that? And Austin, as usual,

470
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Speaker 14: you're doing a great job.

471
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Speaker 2: Well, Greg, thank you so much. Yeah, I don't know

472
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Speaker 2: what to make of this game. I think Kurt Signetti

473
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Speaker 2: is a really good coach. I think he's a really

474
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Speaker 2: sharp offensive mind. I think that Fernando Mendoza is just

475
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: perfectly operating that offense the way that they want it

476
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: to and they've got a good opportunistic defense. So I

477
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: wonder if this game from both sides to an extent,

478
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: will be treated like a preseason game because they're likely

479
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: both going to get the first round by and there's

480
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Speaker 2: a chance that they see each other again in the playoffs.

481
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Speaker 2: I just wonder how much both coaches are willing to

482
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: empty the clip, especially Signetti, and I don't know that

483
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Speaker 2: if that's the way they're thinking at all.

484
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Speaker 5: But you know, I.

485
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Speaker 2: Matt Patricia's defense really truly has not been tested. When

486
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: they went down six nothing to Michigan last week, that

487
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: was their biggest deficit of the entire season in Ohio States,

488
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: credit they came back. Now, six points is basically nothing.

489
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: It's one possession. It's basically less than one possession. So

490
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Speaker 2: I don't know what to expect of this game. I've

491
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Speaker 2: told my friends and my Buckeye fans, and I've said

492
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: it on here. The only team that I really worry

493
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: about is Indiana just because of their explosiveness, their consistency.

494
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Speaker 2: They haven't faltered, they haven't messed up. They're just a

495
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: good team and a good offensive mind. And I just

496
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: wonder when the test is going to come for Matt Patricia.

497
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about him like he's the greatest coach in

498
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Speaker 2: the history of football, and I get it, that defense

499
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. I just wonder, you know, stylistically, what this

500
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Speaker 2: game looks like between those two sides, because yes, it matters,

501
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: but ultimately, how much does it matter? We talked in

502
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: the past that having the number one seed isn't always

503
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: the best thing in the college football playoffs, And if

504
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: both teams are going to get a bye, and if

505
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: they basically flip flop positions, you know, I don't know.

506
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: I really don't know what to expect. But how could

507
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Speaker 2: I not have faith in what the Buckeyes have done?

508
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Speaker 15: Hey, g Audie, can you tell me why is Jermaine

509
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Speaker 15: Burton still on the Bengals squad? Why haven't they caught

510
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 15: him in Henderson? There's no way that they tag or

511
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Speaker 15: resign them.

512
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Speaker 4: He's just out right.

513
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Speaker 15: Unless when it comes to college foot there are just

514
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 15: too many damn bowl games outside of the college football playoffs.

515
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 15: There should be a few for the teams that were

516
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 15: on the outside looking in didn't make it because of strength,

517
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Speaker 15: to schedule or whatever. I don't care, and I don't

518
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 15: know anyone that cares about Buffa's base shot Bowl.

519
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: YEP, I agree with you one thousand percent. Way too

520
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: many bowl games oversaturated. Once again, that's a television problem

521
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: as far as I understand it. As Ronnie Ron called it,

522
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: the crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. There's a lot

523
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Speaker 2: of those. There's about fifty of those every year. It

524
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Speaker 2: seems like Jermaine Burton, no idea why he's still here.

525
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: He's taking up a roster spot. I was talking about

526
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: this over the weekend. Isaiah Williams has had an excellent

527
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: season with the New York Jets as a kick and

528
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: punk returner and a little bit as a wide receiver.

529
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Speaker 5: How is he like?

530
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Speaker 2: It still blows my mind that the Bengals chose Jermaine

531
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Speaker 2: Burton over him. It's just it's ridiculous. I don't know

532
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: why he's still on the team.

533
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Speaker 7: What's off Boston, jovin Baltimore? What up are Super excited

534
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 7: about Kentucky's high or will Stein.

535
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: Great move for the program.

536
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna do great things.

537
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 4: Man.

538
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Speaker 7: I'm over Trey Hendrickson. He's done a lot of great

539
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 7: things for the Bengals. But I'm ready for us to

540
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 7: move on. Kentucky against North Carolina tonight, big game, hopefully

541
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Speaker 7: you take, can probably win, win a big one.

542
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: That's right, big one between Kentucky and North Carolina, which

543
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: just the battle of the blue Bloods. Is that on

544
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: campus anywhere? Or is that one of those games that's

545
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: being played, you know, in some NBA arena in New York. No,

546
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: it's that rough, Okay, wonderful. Can't wait for that nine

547
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: to thirty pm tip off right now. Kentucky favored by

548
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: six and a half in that game. That's gonna be awesome.

549
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 16: Hey there, Tony the Bengal Tiger Tuesday in Austin. Don't

550
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 16: got much for you guys today, but do God, I'm

551
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 16: stop bench and cut all right of things you don't

552
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 16: care about your co workers talking on out on the

553
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 16: fantasy teams. Two, the parlais that missed by one leg,

554
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 16: and three the food that they're going to eat over

555
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 16: the holidays season goodbye.

556
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: I would start their parlays, I would bench their fantasy teams.

557
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: I would cut the food that they're going to eat

558
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: over the holiday season. And that's something I experienced almost

559
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: every day.

560
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Speaker 17: This is David reminding everybody it's Crosstown shootout week and

561
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 17: it's been eight seven, oh, no, fifty four days?

562
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 5: Bearcats? Oh my gosh, wow, So what was it?

563
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: Almost three thousand days since Ohio State had beaten Michigan

564
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: and we're almost nine thousands since you see as one

565
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: at sentas.

566
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Speaker 5: So maybe we can.

567
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: Join forces for good here, if you're a Buckeye and

568
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: a Bearcat fan, and we can break streaks together.

569
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 5: Hey, Audie, back with the double doung with you. There's

570
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 5: a lot of things in college football. It's quite a mess.

571
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 5: And maybe I'm.

572
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 14: Alone this, but I think a commissioner will go a

573
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 14: long way to square some things away.

574
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Speaker 5: Take care.

575
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent, Kevin, But how

576
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: do we get that guy? How do we get that

577
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: man or that woman? And how are we going to

578
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: get the conferences to agree on that person and to

579
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: agree to answer to that person. I don't know if

580
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: we will.

581
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Speaker 10: Hi Energy, how we are right?

582
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Speaker 17: I think it's almost time to get al Golan back

583
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 17: his D. Almost it ain't there yet. Show me something

584
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 17: against Buffalo. Show up in Buffalo, missed that Golan and

585
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 17: get that D back in your name.

586
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: You know what.

587
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna write this down right now because you have

588
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: to talk to Moeggar about this stuff. He's the guy

589
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: who's in charge of the way names are spelled. Ouk Tobin,

590
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: Al Golan. Neither one have the D because the Bengals

591
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: defense they played pretty good. I'm gonna have to ask

592
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: Mo today during quick hits if we can put the

593
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: D back in Al Golden's name.

594
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Speaker 5: Audi, what's going on? It's maso.

595
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 13: So my opinion on college football and college athletics in

596
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 13: general is that it's completely broken. Yes, everybody's selfish and

597
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 13: looking out for their own interests, and I get players

598
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 13: and coaches going and making money and getting the bag.

599
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 13: I get that, But how can we not come to

600
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 13: an agreement that it should happen after the season is over.

601
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: Why is that so hard to implement? Yeah?

602
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: I agree, and that's what I want to talk about

603
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: with the Texas Tech head coach, and he kind of explains,

604
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: like the academic side of it and the portal and

605
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: all this other stuff like there is just no structure

606
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: and that everyone is so out for themselves that it

607
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter how you affect other people so long

608
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: as you take care of your program or however, like

609
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: with the Lane Kiffen things, specifically, if anybody who is

610
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: has a job, if you are doing a job really well,

611
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: and a similar company offers you a lot more money

612
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: to do basically the same thing, and they give you

613
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: a lot more resources to do it at a higher level,

614
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: most people are going to jump to that company if

615
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: the others aren't going to be able to offer you

616
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Speaker 2: those resources. I don't blame Lane Kiffin for doing that.

617
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: I will never blame somebody for leaving to get more money.

618
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: But the problem is that the system has allowed for

619
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: there to be a path of destruction, a wake of

620
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 2: destruction behind him on the way out the door. And

621
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Speaker 2: that's an issue. Sorry for the double dip y fired

622
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: up today, But my.

623
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Speaker 13: Next point was going to be I think the SEC

624
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 13: in Big ten they should just break off and do

625
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 13: their own thing, kind of have like an NFL model

626
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 13: and be kind of like a minor league to the NFL.

627
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Speaker 13: And then the rest of the League's acc Big twelve,

628
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 13: whatever the PAC twelve or whatever the hell that is. Yeah,

629
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 13: then they would just kind of be like your lower

630
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 13: tier fcs, like what FCS is now.

631
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 5: Now.

632
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: I think that's like actually kind of a possibility. I

633
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if eventually something like that happens. I

634
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: do wonder though, if the SEC and Big ten can

635
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: even get along. Maybe if they're seeing enough green they will.

636
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Speaker 18: Hey, guys, it's Brad in the BA boy, but any

637
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 18: eight just had a curiosity. What's your favorite restaurant? Mine is,

638
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 18: of course, Blue Ass Chili. What's your favorite pizza? I'm

639
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 18: a trophy guy over there in even Dale Evan loves

640
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 18: it too, I hear.

641
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, let me know, Yeah, my favorite restaurant and my

642
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: favorite pizza are any company that is willing to pay

643
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: me to endorse them and say that they are my favorite.

644
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 5: That's just you know, my personal favorite.

645
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 19: Awesome, it's good. What I am sick and tired of

646
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 19: the Jermaine Burton saga. I'm over it. Let's get rid

647
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 19: of this guy, maybe right out the rest of the season,

648
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 19: but get what you can for him after that. We

649
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 19: haven't seen enough from him in the league to warrant

650
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 19: him taking up a roster spot. I know he was

651
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 19: a higher draft pick, but his time is done. And

652
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 19: how about that field goal attempt last night?

653
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 5: That was cuckoo.

654
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Speaker 19: Last time I've seen a field goal go haywire like

655
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Speaker 19: that was the grammatica field goal where.

656
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Speaker 5: He tours eas Yeah afterwards, just embarrassing. Yeah, that was wild.

657
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would even call Jermaine Burton

658
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: a saga as much as it's just like a disappointment

659
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Speaker 2: that this guy and the team have gotten to this point.

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Speaker 2: He's not worth anything. You won't get anything for him.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver, I think is on that list of things

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to address in the offseason to begin

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Speaker 2: with number one, Just a guy that can win more

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Speaker 2: consistency at that three spot, more consistently at that number

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Speaker 2: three spot where Yoshaboss has been has been and you

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Speaker 2: know the depth at that position, there's a lot of unknowns. Tensley, Jones, Burton,

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Speaker 2: Obviously they need to work.

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Speaker 5: On that spot.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back when

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Speaker 2: we do football in the Natty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in It is Football and the NATI here

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Speaker 2: in hour number two on ESPN fifteen thirty. I want

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Speaker 2: to put a bow on the college football conversation and

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Speaker 2: the direction that it's obviously going. And I talked earlier

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Speaker 2: about Texas Tech head coach Joey McGuire. He was asked

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Speaker 2: in his availability prior to the Big twelve Chamchampionship game

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Speaker 2: about what needs to be done to the college football

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Speaker 2: calendar in the wake of Lane Kiffin and the coaching

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Speaker 2: carousel and all the stuff going on. This is two

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Speaker 2: minutes of Joey McGuire providing what he thinks are viable

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Speaker 2: solutions that make sense for college football. Take a listen

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Speaker 2: to the Red Raiders head coach.

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Speaker 20: I want to know what my team is in January,

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Speaker 20: so I could create my team and what we did

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Speaker 20: this last year and the chemistry and everything, and so

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Speaker 20: you're just putting a band aid over the problem until

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Speaker 20: we address the calendar. So in my opinion, we all

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Speaker 20: should have played August twenty third, So instead of week

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Speaker 20: zero we play, that's week one. That would mean, with

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Speaker 20: the buys and everything, the conference championship would have been

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Speaker 20: played over Thanksgiving. So you get that out of the way.

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Speaker 20: So now we know who's in the playoffs. So if

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Speaker 20: you were saying the first round was going to be

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Speaker 20: played Saturday and then and the quarterfinals seven days after that,

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Speaker 20: semifinals seven days after that, you actually could play the

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Speaker 20: National Championship on January first, and then the portal would

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Speaker 20: open on January second, so the season would actually be over.

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Speaker 20: So until you do that, we're still gonna have this.

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Speaker 20: If we're gonna be like the NFL to everybody's saying that.

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Speaker 20: In the NFL, there's a tampering for coaches also, and

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Speaker 20: there's a penalty, and so, hey, if you're gonna leave

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Speaker 20: your team that's in the playoffs, maybe your team that

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Speaker 20: you're going to is not eligible for the playoffs the

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Speaker 20: next year, Maybe that changes some of the things. Or hey,

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Speaker 20: you're gonna leave your team for the playoffs, nobody from

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Speaker 20: your past team or your team that you're coaching at

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Speaker 20: can go to the team that you're going to. You

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Speaker 20: know that they're not eligible. They ain't getting the transfer portal,

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Speaker 20: but they've got to go somewhere else. They can't follow

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Speaker 20: you until there's some penalties in that we're gonna get

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Speaker 20: the same thing over and over. I do think the

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Speaker 20: biggest thing that we have to address, and TV's got

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Speaker 20: to get behind this because they've already got this mapped

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Speaker 20: out with the quarterfinals and all this stuff. We've got

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Speaker 20: to push the calendar up and we've got to get

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Speaker 20: football out of the second semester. We're not supposed to

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Speaker 20: be playing college football on January nineteenth. That should be

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Speaker 20: over at the very worst of where it has been

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Speaker 20: in the past. I still think that's too late, and

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Speaker 20: the calendar can change that.

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Speaker 2: I love that perspective again from Joey McGuire, the Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech head coach.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that makes a ton of sense to me.

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Speaker 2: If school in the portal is what gets in the

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Speaker 2: way of this and causes so many different issues, well

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Speaker 2: then maybe it makes a lot of sense to just

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Speaker 2: move everything up and so that you get you know,

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Speaker 2: football out of that second semester, which seems to be

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Speaker 2: the biggest issue with guys you know, going different directions

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Speaker 2: in different schools and the portal and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Either way, even if there's not a commissioner or not

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Speaker 2: a governing body or whatever it might be. I feel

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Speaker 2: like most people in college sports, and especially in college football,

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Speaker 2: specifically in college football in this case, would be in

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Speaker 2: favor of something that gets everybody on the same page.

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Speaker 2: Would they not? And if so, what really are we

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Speaker 2: doing here? Take a break, We'll come back. This is

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: One of the other many reasons we need a governing body,

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Speaker 2: we need some sort of regulation, We need somebody, some

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Speaker 2: group of people managing college football is for stuff like

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Speaker 2: what happened at the Big House on Saturday when the

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Speaker 2: headsets for the Ohio State sideline. All power to the

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Speaker 2: sideline really went out and took quite some time to

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Speaker 2: get booted back up. Take a listen to what Ohio

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Speaker 2: state head coach Ryan Day had to say about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we lost communication there in the second half.

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Speaker 12: But the good news was was that earlier that week,

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Speaker 12: I thought there may be an inkling that that may happen.

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Speaker 5: So we had a plan for it.

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Speaker 12: We had a wristband plan and then we had we

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Speaker 12: would bring Julian over and I was, you know, just

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Speaker 12: getting us through it until we get the headsets back

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Speaker 12: back up and running, which took a little while to

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Speaker 12: get done. But yeah, just by chance, you know, we

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Speaker 12: we had a plan for it, and so we were

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Speaker 12: ready to go when it happened.

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Speaker 5: Inkling, Why did you have that? Inkling? Oh, we're just

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Speaker 5: ready for everything. You just got to be ready for anything.

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Speaker 12: And you know, when you go into any big game,

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Speaker 12: you're always trying to put continuency plans in place for

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Speaker 12: anything that could possibly happen. And so yeah, we were

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Speaker 12: just that was in here on Friday, and I think

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Speaker 12: some of the guys in the staff were looking at

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Speaker 12: me sideways, like, why would you think that would happen?

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Speaker 12: I said, I just, I just, I don't know. We

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Speaker 12: just got to be ready and be ready for anything.

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Speaker 12: It's funny how your mind works.

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Speaker 2: He finished that answer with a wink to the reporter. Now,

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, all this stuff is managed by the

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Speaker 2: National Football League, not necessarily the case always in college football.

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Speaker 2: There's just a lot going on in that sport that

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Speaker 2: I can't I struggle to keep track of. It's it's

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Speaker 2: truly unbelievable.

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Speaker 21: UH.

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Speaker 2: College football schedule. This weekend conference championships gets underway. The

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Speaker 2: American is going to be Friday night. That's at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: That's number twenty four to two Lane up against North Texas.

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Speaker 2: Then on Saturday, Big twelve Championship BYU in Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: is at noon. The MAC Championship also at noon. That's

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Speaker 2: Miami and Western Michigan from Ford Field in Detroit. Georgia

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Speaker 2: and Alabama from Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta is at

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Speaker 2: four o'clock. Ohio State in Indiana from Lucas Oil Stadium

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis at eight, and the ACC title game Duke

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Speaker 2: in Virginia also at eight from Bank of America Stadium

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Speaker 2: in Charlotte. So that puts a bow on the college

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Speaker 2: football conversation. Let's go back to the pro football conversation

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Speaker 2: when we come back. Joe Goodberry, long time Bengals analyst

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Speaker 2: and host of Bengals on the Brain, friend of the

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Speaker 2: show and a great football mind. I have questions about

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Speaker 2: the Bengals defense. We'll talk to Joe next on ESPN