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Speaker 1: I understand that, Gardner. But look, let's take it out

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, Jeff, like we're in the confessional, like

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Speaker 1: Yes, no question. Yes, Sal, you're building up to your

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Speaker 3: but we did. We voted for a crackdown on illegal immigration.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, it's affecting everything. Look at in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 1: Sal. To bring it full circle, what do you think

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Speaker 3: It, correct, absolutely, So what does that do? What does

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Speaker 1: No question, no question, no question, no question, A lot

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Speaker 1: to Massachusetts, who's going to give you benefits like this,

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Speaker 1: Now maybe that's the long term. You know, strategy is

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Speaker 1: this is who you want, This is who you voted for,

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Speaker 1: to God, I don't think I am final word to you, Joe.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, respectfully, when you say the left hates America, more

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Speaker 4: than we love America. You're wrong. It's US Americans that

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Speaker 4: enlist in the military. My uncle, my grandfather, my brother.

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Speaker 4: They died for this country, and they didn't with the

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Speaker 4: with the left and volunteer. The left isn't becoming ICE agents.

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Speaker 4: We're putting our lives on the line because we love America.

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Speaker 4: So don't say that that the left more than we

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Speaker 4: love it. We love the hell out of it.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's true. No, no, no, Joe, then I misspoke. No,

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Speaker 1: you're right, and I promise I'll give you the last word.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: No, obviously, they are the patriots who fight and die,

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Speaker 1: the patriots who serve in ICE. I don't mean that.

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Speaker 1: What I mean is in terms of numbers, right, if

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Speaker 1: you look at look, I mean, we're not out on

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Speaker 1: this sho treets protesting, right, generally, generally we're not. We're not.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you look at take a million Republican

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Speaker 1: voters versus a million Democrat voters, you know, overall, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at total population. They clearly hate the

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Speaker 1: United States more than that million love it. Why because

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Speaker 1: the million Republicans are generally passive. They they just stand

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Speaker 1: there and take it. They're what's called a silent majority.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats. Every time a Republican president wins, they it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether it's Trump or George W. Bush or

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Speaker 1: I remember under Reagan, My god, they were going to

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Speaker 1: tear the country apart. He was hitler and he was

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Speaker 1: gonna get us all killed, and it was going to

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Speaker 1: be a nuclear war. And I mean protest after protest

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Speaker 1: after protest. My god, they were gunning for him on

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Speaker 1: Iran Contra. They wanted his head. You know, I remember

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Speaker 1: Bush forty one. Oh my god, I was at UNIF

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Speaker 1: Then here's the head park. You sure see him. We're

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Speaker 1: going nuts. And so what I'm just saying is it's

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking on an individual basis. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: it that way, Joe. What I mean is you compare

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Speaker 1: overall Republican voters to Democrat voters. God, they hate that country.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they hate our country. And Republican voters, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we love America. But I mean you're talking about people

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Speaker 1: who are willing to risk their lives. And there are

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Speaker 1: many of them, but on the whole, they're comfortable. They

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Speaker 1: stay home and they go here. Look, I have neighbors,

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Speaker 1: you know what they all tell me let Trump take

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Speaker 1: care of it. I mean, they voted for Trump. But

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Speaker 1: I say to them, how come you know you know

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Speaker 1: I call rallies. How come you never come? Let Trump

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Speaker 1: take care of it? No, I got a Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go downtown Boston and go to

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Speaker 1: a rally. Why well, okay, then we're not going to

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Speaker 1: have a big enough presence to make an impact. Like

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Speaker 1: you know, you got to do something if you want

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Speaker 1: to save our country. So there are too many complacent

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Speaker 1: people on our side. That's my only point. Show go.

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Speaker 4: I agree, But if it's the paid protesters that are

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Speaker 4: making the difference, the ones that are showing up at

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Speaker 4: every rally, the ones that are showing up at every

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Speaker 4: ice thing. If we have the jobs as Republicans, So

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Speaker 4: if we have a billionaire, if we have a Home

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Speaker 4: Depot guy or an Ovistar guy who pays our activists,

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Speaker 4: they'll take off work. I'll take off work if you

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Speaker 4: pay me one hundred dollars an hour. I can't take

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Speaker 4: it off if you don't, but if you do, I'll

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Speaker 4: be with this stint clap and every time they get

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Speaker 4: up a bus, I'll open the door for them in

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Speaker 4: a restaurant. I'll follow their vans around to support them

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Speaker 4: wherever they go, block cars that are trying to get

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Speaker 4: in their way because I can be there, because I

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Speaker 4: can't get away from my job. I'll have the sides

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Speaker 4: print it up. They're all set to go. Everywhere they go.

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Speaker 4: The news can't avoid but seeing me because my side

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Speaker 4: organized at least as good as the Democrat side. Why

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Speaker 4: are we so crappy at organizing and they so good

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Speaker 4: because of dedications? It's laziness and cheapness.

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Speaker 1: You nailed it. I couldn't have said it better myself. Brilliant,

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Speaker 1: honestly brilliant. And Joe. Look, just to finish this, to

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Speaker 1: put like I like to say an exclamation point on

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Speaker 1: what you just said, there's a there were about a

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Speaker 1: thousand protesters in all Okay, in Minneapolis, about a thousand,

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Speaker 1: you know so, and it's the same one. They just

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Speaker 1: keep recycling them, and that thousand kept getting played oh

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Speaker 1: all day, all night on cable news, on the evening

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Speaker 1: news everywhere. Well, okay, not even outnumber them. Let's say

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Speaker 1: there were a thousand of us, like you said, a

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Speaker 1: thousand pro ice protesters, and so they're like, whoa look,

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Speaker 1: at this. I imagine the optics how it would change. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot, a lot of a thousand out there

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Speaker 1: against Ice, but look at the other thousand pro Ice.

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Speaker 1: WHOA it would have changed everything. Never mind if two, three,

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Speaker 1: four or five thousand of us showed up and then

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Speaker 1: we just completely swamp them, even if it's one to one.

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Speaker 1: Then you can't do the color revolution. You can't, you know,

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Speaker 1: throw the wool in people's eyes and say, well, look

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Speaker 1: at the opposition, look at the I mean, look at

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Speaker 1: the opposition to Trump's policies, look at this, Look at

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Speaker 1: the protests are everywhere. We're complacent and I love us,

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Speaker 1: you know that. Okay, I love us, But we're too

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Speaker 1: complacent and we're too cheap. And I'm talking mostly not you, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but I'm talking you know, like, are the wealthy people

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Speaker 1: on our side? Look in a way, it's a virtue.

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Speaker 1: They run successful businesses. You're there to make a profit.

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Speaker 1: You know you're not. You know you're not. You don't

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Speaker 1: believe in corporate welfare. But guys, could you spend a

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Speaker 1: few bucks?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: It's like when I try to get money for the

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Speaker 1: Boston Broadside, I mean I get zero. I get nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, can't we build up one media outlet,

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Speaker 1: one newspaper, just one that's an alternative to the left

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Speaker 1: in the state and to get you know, these are

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Speaker 1: people with money. I gotta pull teeth to get them

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Speaker 1: to buy a subscription. What is it like, thirty bucks

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Speaker 1: or thirty five bucks for a year? You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking like, could you guys write at know, a thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's no longer a monthly, it becomes a weekly.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's more of a website presence, Like we could

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Speaker 1: really build this thing up and it can be a

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Speaker 1: real effective alternative. I'm telling you, I'd rather get root Canal,

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Speaker 1: I swear to you than deal with potential donors. They're cheap,

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Speaker 1: but you know they'll go to a restaurant and blow

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Speaker 1: a thousand bucks on a meal, no problem. And you know, well,

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Speaker 1: all right here, I'll write you a check for you know,

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Speaker 1: a launie if whatever. You know, here's thirty five bucks

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Speaker 1: I'll get you. You know, here's first subscription. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: well that's not gonna win us. We're not going to

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Speaker 1: win a media war with a thirty five dollars subscription check.

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Speaker 1: When we need big donors to pony up the left.

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Speaker 1: They pay. Say what you want about George Sorows. He

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Speaker 1: pays Bill Gates, that pervert. He pays our side. Not

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Speaker 1: so much. Harry in Maine. Thanks for holding Harry, and welcome.

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Speaker 4: Jeff.

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Speaker 5: Good morning. Hi he Jeff, you know earlier you use

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Speaker 5: the well he did say that the polls actually support

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Speaker 5: Trump at this point in time wrote the deportation. Okay,

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Speaker 5: So I really think it's incorrect when we describe it

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Speaker 5: as being him being pragmatic. I don't think Trump's being

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Speaker 5: pragmatic at all. I think he's being accommodating. I think

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Speaker 5: that's the proper description. Let me help me understand this, Jeff.

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Speaker 5: Does the law me apply where it's invited? Help me

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Speaker 5: understand this, Jeff. So, when Trump's on his campaign and

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Speaker 5: he promises to make as part of his overall mission

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Speaker 5: America safe again, does that only apply to red states

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Speaker 5: and red cities. I didn't vote for this. I like Trump,

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Speaker 5: I support Trump. I support them still today. But what

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Speaker 5: it boils down to, and I've called you now the

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Speaker 5: last three times, I'm going to use this word again accountability.

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Speaker 5: A for accountability. Trump gets an F for execution of accountability.

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Speaker 5: Why he's got the weakest DOJ that he could possibly have.

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Speaker 5: With Pam Bondy, they have not helped people to account.

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Speaker 5: Look at the people here that they're involved, Waltz, Frey Flanagan,

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Speaker 5: you named Michelle wou Maury Heally. With all the rhetor

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Speaker 5: and everything that's being used and what's being said and

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Speaker 5: inciting the people, how is that any different Where Trump

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Speaker 5: said go down and peacefully and patriotically protest. They impeach

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Speaker 5: the guy over that. And Pam Bondi and her crew

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Speaker 5: can't go and bring charges of insurrection and obstruction of

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Speaker 5: justice to all these fools that I just mentioned. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's just absurd, and I don't think that she's challenged them,

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Speaker 5: and I think there should be have been thrown in jail.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing I said before, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: say it again, I agree with you one thousand percent

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Speaker 5: on this, Jeff. I don't hold Ice accountable for the

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Speaker 5: deaths of these two people. I don't. The bottom line

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Speaker 5: is there's a particular layer of law enforcement that was missing,

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Speaker 5: and that's the local and state police. And since these

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Speaker 5: leaders wouldn't allow them to do their job, the local

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Speaker 5: and state police. Trump should have put in the National

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Speaker 5: Guide and nipped it at the butt. It just got

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Speaker 5: out of control. And by the way we talk about

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Speaker 5: the media, I understand that they're totally against the concern.

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Speaker 1: Harry, can you do me a big favor. I'm up

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Speaker 1: against a break. I don't want to rush you. I

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Speaker 1: want you to finish your thought. But you are on fire,

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Speaker 1: my friend,