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Speaker 2: Dave Logan, Ryan Ever shall be Harris was what how

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Speaker 2: are we doing today?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: Like grand View?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta wrap grand View of softball? Baby.

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Speaker 1: I got an alumni over there and that Fort Hayes

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Speaker 1: then that we cheer on pretty well, so you know,

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Speaker 1: gotta And it's actually one of my most comfortable workout shirts.

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Speaker 2: Okay? Or are you getting getting geared up?

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Speaker 1: I didn't work out today, but you didn't work out today?

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Speaker 1: Well no, I didn't know this, and I might be

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Speaker 1: an idiot for this, but after you get a tattoo,

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Speaker 1: you can't work out right away.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I mean, I don't have any tattoos.

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Speaker 2: So I said, you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Wait like two you gotta wait about forty eight hours?

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Speaker 1: Is that? What? What?

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Speaker 2: What's the I mean maybe you get.

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Speaker 1: Tattoos and I don't know why I didn't remember that

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Speaker 1: because I got tattooed yesterday and I'm sitting here, I'm

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Speaker 1: literally getting enough to go work out this born and

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Speaker 1: my wife's like, where.

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Speaker 2: Are you going? What tattoo did you get?

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Speaker 1: I got my uncle, my uncle who passed. Holy cow, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got my uncle who passed in December, and so

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Speaker 1: I got him, I got a I like portraits, got

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Speaker 1: my grandma's portrait on there. My uncle passed. And then

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Speaker 1: he has this really cool poem that he always used

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Speaker 1: to read to us. It's called The Dash. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard of it?

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Speaker 2: I have not?

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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I read it, well, the main part I read,

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Speaker 1: the main part that I got tattooed on me, and

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Speaker 1: the dash is what really means is like you know

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Speaker 1: when you say born in nineteen ninety one, took that

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Speaker 1: dash in the middle right, and the part that I

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Speaker 1: got tattooed on mean, this is a whole poem. It

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Speaker 1: says for that dash represents all the time that they

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Speaker 1: spend a live on earth, and now only those who

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Speaker 1: love them know what that little line is worth. And

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Speaker 1: it's it's really more, you know, it's more indictive to this,

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Speaker 2: Little dash, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and it says more of a you know, make

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Speaker 1: the best of that dash, but you don't know how

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Speaker 1: many people you can affect in that little amount of

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Speaker 1: time that we're here.

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Speaker 2: That's good man, A good perspective, Dave, good to see you,

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Speaker 2: absolutely good see you guys. Oh yeah, that's good man. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's not a small piece that you got tattooed on yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have to finish my arm sleeve to fish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the cool part about it, you know that

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Speaker 2: day gets to finish an arm when you start an arm.

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Speaker 1: Yet nobody, I know you couldn't work out following you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't add no clue. But uh, everything

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Speaker 1: on my arm means something to me, I hope. Like

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Speaker 1: I have a portrait of my grandma and I have

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Speaker 1: her favorite flower of the Carnation. I have when we

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Speaker 1: used to talk on the phone every time before she'd

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Speaker 1: hang up, she always said, what does mike Le say?

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Speaker 1: Do the right thing always? And then from then it

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Speaker 1: says round seven pick two thirty five, from dreams to

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Speaker 1: reality there you know what I mean. And so it's

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And then I have on my

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Speaker 1: and her bicet, I have all the kids birthdays and

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Speaker 1: Roman numerals. And then now I have my uncle with

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Speaker 1: that poem on the other side. So now on my neck,

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Speaker 1: you can't I have a slime smiley face. And so

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Speaker 1: that's just what about like the tyson thing over the eye?

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Speaker 3: Can we go there? We're going to go there eventually. No,

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Speaker 3: I mean your uncle passed. It was he buried, No.

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Speaker 1: He had So craziest part is he died in Africa

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Speaker 1: attending his girlfriend's daughter's wedding. Oh my, and so I

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Speaker 1: was just a heart attack, oh boy. And so it's

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Speaker 1: something where like doing the hospitals and the villages in

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Speaker 1: if he would have been here, he would have been alive.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, yeah, absolutely, oh yeah, but it was

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Speaker 1: said everything on my arm is actually like the girlfriend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And actually the picture I got I got it from

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Speaker 1: You know, a whole bunch of you know, funerals can

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Speaker 1: be messy, you know what I mean. So I went

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Speaker 1: a whole mess with the with his kids, and she

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Speaker 1: helped me find We went through all these photos, all

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Speaker 1: these old photos of me and him, all these old

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Speaker 1: some older photos of just him, and so I got

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Speaker 1: found a photo. He didn't smile all the time. It

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Speaker 1: I found one of him smiling, and so that was

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Speaker 1: the one I chose to put.

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Speaker 2: On my arm. Do you uh, I don't know, Dave.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you real quick, sause I don't have

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Speaker 2: any tattoos. There's a couple of moments in my younger years,

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Speaker 2: my twenties that I thought about any tattoo, but I

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Speaker 2: just never really found something that was exciting. Did you ever,

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Speaker 2: because you don't have tattoos? Right?

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Speaker 1: I do? Oh? You do? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow? I guess I did. Well, Yes, you knew.

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Speaker 2: He just smiles. That's a fact, like like big letters

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Speaker 2: on your back. No, I mean, so, well, do you

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Speaker 2: want to share what?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Or are you not? Okay? I should have asked that first. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: but you knew that you can't work out after getting that,

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Speaker 2: so I guess I did. Yeah, So I had no clue,

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Speaker 2: yeah at all.

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Speaker 1: And I just got a tattooed like a year ago,

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Speaker 1: so you feel like I would know, But I feel

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Speaker 1: like I always get tattoos on like a Friday and so,

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Speaker 1: and I usually don't work out on the weekends, and it's.

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Speaker 3: A sweat and the you know, you can't get into sauna,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's even longer. I think you gotta

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna get So. I didn't work out today,

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Speaker 1: I'm not working out tomorrow. I'm gonna work out Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a combined workout. There.

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Speaker 2: You go, very cool.

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Speaker 1: Ride never stops even after an eight hour tattoo.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Sorry. Five six, six nine zeros

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Speaker 2: are Katie commas Bury'll text line if you want to react,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have all sorts of fun over the course

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Speaker 2: of the afternoon, talk a little about the Nuggets. We

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Speaker 2: got Jack Corgan joining us after five o'clock. The Red

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Speaker 2: Hot Rockies are in San Diego tonight, so we'll talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about that. The Nuggets, though last night's

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Speaker 2: getting another dub. They did not cover Dave. You were

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Speaker 2: You're correct, and you know, I felt like I almost

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Speaker 2: helped you. It was like stocked in the Malone. I

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Speaker 2: assisted you with the Memphis tends to play them tougher

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Speaker 2: than twenty three and a half.

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Speaker 3: All you did was play your hand. I knew exactly

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm still three behind. Okay, I'm still

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Speaker 3: three behind. I got two days to make it up.

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Speaker 3: I believe in Yeah, I believe in Well, I tend

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Speaker 3: to Ryan. So why do I say Ryan finds the

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Speaker 3: way to lose at the end.

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Speaker 2: Of the week, As he makes the joke, Gee, that's

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Speaker 2: probably more appropriate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely do that. Latrell's three well.

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Speaker 2: Really well, hey, but now now then stand up one

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Speaker 2: and a half up on the Lakers. The thunder Spurs

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Speaker 2: both locked into their spots. YEP, So those next two

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Speaker 2: games against the thunder and spurs for then, I guess

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Speaker 3: Completely meaningless, So you wonder. I mean, it's going to

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Speaker 3: play Jamal? You know, I mean Aaron Gordon. I mean

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Speaker 3: even a bigger question because of the injuries this year,

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Speaker 3: Christian Brown, You're gonna mix a match and you would

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Speaker 3: hope to get Peyton Watson and maybe Spencer Jones a

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Speaker 3: little bit of tick before the playoffs start, but you

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Speaker 3: want to give them as much rest as you can, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Peyton has re aggravated the hamstring. Spencer Jones

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Speaker 2: He is right hamstring.

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Speaker 3: who I think is going to be healthy and the opponent,

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Speaker 3: whoever the opponent would be.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's going to be Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're locked into six by the way, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's going to be Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but I think trying to get Peyton Watson,

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Speaker 3: Spencer Jones both as healthy as you can, you've got

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Speaker 3: to balance that against We would like to see them

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Speaker 3: play a little bit before the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And the Nuggets aren't officially locked into three by the way,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have the inside track the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lakers are going to be hard pressed to

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Speaker 3: they play, but you know they don't have you know,

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Speaker 3: who do they have? Who right now? Would be the

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Speaker 2: Out, Probably not Ruy Hachima, so Davenportant Yeah, maybe, yeah maybe.

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Speaker 2: last box score when Lebron tapped out. It could be DeAndre.

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Speaker 1: He has been he's been a more important, you know

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Speaker 1: option in his career, and he even said earlier in

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Speaker 1: the year that he had to get used to this

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Speaker 1: new role in in LA and that he like bought

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Speaker 1: into it. But now they kind of need him to

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Speaker 1: take more of a scoring role because he can do it.

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Speaker 1: But isn't that kind of crazy though, There's so many

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Speaker 1: players in India that take a back seat that could

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Speaker 1: actually go score and I think that I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's you think he's that guy. I think he

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Speaker 1: can at least get you twenty like eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: a game if he was the main option, like if

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Speaker 1: he was like a top two option, like when he

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Speaker 1: was in Phoenix and that whole championship run when they

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Speaker 1: lost to the Bucks of the finals. Per game was

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Speaker 1: a big part of what they were doing. Sixteen eighteen

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Speaker 3: He just went down four points. Okay, I'm looking for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, remarkably, really was the guy that led them in

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Speaker 1: Well, women needs one more game and so you might

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Speaker 2: I think he blocks. I mean he's gonna be That's the.

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Speaker 2: So good spot for the Nuggets either way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: They won seven straight.

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Speaker 2: But I believe the Nuggets have the tiebreak over the Rockets. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Think he asked the question would from Nuggets fans perspective,

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Speaker 1: The Rockets Timberwolves, I'd say timber Wolves because I don't

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Speaker 2: The timber Wolves are locked in, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was wild. So last night, with that win, the

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's bananas.

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Speaker 1: Its longest win streak in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I mean it is, But just you think about over

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Speaker 2: the course of his career and the success that the

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Speaker 2: I love after every game we get a new wild

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Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic stat, but even this one. The Nuggets quoted

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Speaker 2: this is from optastats on Twitter. They got a one

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Speaker 2: especially since the Nuggets also quoted it. Have been over

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Speaker 2: one point four million total ten games spans by players

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Speaker 2: did a player have as many points, rebounds, and assists

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Speaker 2: as Nikola Jokic has done in this ten game win

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing, I mean, as you said, nothing really should

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just not the MVP though, just you know,

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Speaker 2: well we know why he had two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: This came out a little a little bit ago, so

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Speaker 1: And I saw that earlier today, that that one surprised

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the average triple double doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying because I thought, because obviously he's always

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Speaker 3: One year lead the league and assist and I would

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Speaker 3: have thought I would have thought he just sort of

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think about it in terms of

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Speaker 2: both right? And you say will will get it on purpose?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because he was he was getting so much criticism.

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Speaker 3: I believe the story goes in terms of him being

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Speaker 3: so he leads the league and assist one year. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know sixty sixty something, maybe.

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Speaker 2: Did you Dan Levatard today saying that Nikola Jokic is

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Speaker 2: a better offensive player than Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 2: I was sickled by this because I like hyperbolic radio.

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Speaker 3: He's as good an offensive player as anybody I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking basically about a footer who can

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Speaker 2: That alone.

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Speaker 1: What's he shooting from three point range? Now? It's right

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Speaker 1: at forty, isn't He's always always hovering around forty.

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Speaker 2: It's about forty. I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: Right, So what seven footer not named Kevin Durant has

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Speaker 3: He also can play in the blocks, right, I mean

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Speaker 3: he's a he's around an eighty percent free throw shooter,

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Speaker 3: everything into consideration, he's as good an offensive player, and

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Speaker 3: he's an excellent passer, evidenced by the fact and how

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Speaker 1: Gets no love. And also it was in sixty seven

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Speaker 2: I knew his story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, I'll show you selfish. Also, that was

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Speaker 2: Sixty You said sixty seven sixty eight?

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Speaker 3: They won it that year? They were I believe they were.

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Speaker 3: Was that the Philadelphia Warriors? Was that the wor Philadelpha

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Speaker 1: I think they won the championship in sixty seven. I

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Speaker 2: Here, just really quick, here's a little bit of Dan

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Speaker 2: Lebtard saying that Akole Yoki is the best offensive player.

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Speaker 4: Jokich is a better offensive player than Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: It took me a long time to get here.

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Speaker 1: I am now here.

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Speaker 2: Everyone should capitulate.

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Speaker 4: There has never been a better offensive player than that

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Speaker 4: sorry that this guy ruined basketball for you. But he's

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if I asked you you have one game,

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Speaker 1: That's not what I said, But I'm asking a different ques.

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Speaker 2: But it's not what I said.

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Speaker 4: I said he's the best offensive player I have ever seen.

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Speaker 4: I could give you all of the numbers and metrics

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Speaker 4: and defensively, because he's also good defensively. He clogs everything

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Speaker 4: you can take the MVP from that guy if you like,

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Speaker 4: but there's never been a better offensive player.

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Speaker 1: And you can argue on behalf of Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: And you can say one game all the players that

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Speaker 2: You could argue for Michael Jordan being a good basketball player.

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Speaker 4: Good can but you can make the argument on the

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Speaker 4: other side and it'll be hair splitting. Like whatever it

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Speaker 4: is you're doing to reduce my Jokich argument, you're doing

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Speaker 4: it by this margin.

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Speaker 1: We are watching genuine mastery in basketball.

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Speaker 4: But everybody's mad at basketball for an assignment, for an

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Speaker 2: I love how he called him a loaf of bread.

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Speaker 2: Then he also said that maybe he's ruined basketball for you,

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Speaker 2: because I genuinely see takes like that from people outside

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Speaker 2: of the smart You know what.

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Speaker 3: I would say, not if you love you really love basketball,

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Speaker 3: and you have an appreciation of the nuance of the game,

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Speaker 3: many many nuances. This guy is a I mean, again,

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Speaker 3: we don't need to tell Nugget fans, but it's not

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Better athletically than people getting credit for, but he's not

440
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Speaker 3: a world class athlete. He doesn't play above the rim.

441
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 3: I get all that you don't see him on Sports

442
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 3: Center highlights and all that, but just in terms of

443
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: his fundamentals, his ability to see the court, as I mentioned,

444
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 3: a seven footer that can move out to three point range,

445
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 3: knock that shot down eighty percent, or they're about free

446
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 3: throw shooter, a variety of moves in the post, including

447
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 3: knocking it out to an open wing player. I mean,

448
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: I love Jordan, I love Magic, I loved Bird, I

449
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 3: mean all great players, they are in any conversation of

450
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: greatness that anybody will ever have in NBA history. But

451
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Speaker 3: this guy is as good offensively as I've ever seen

452
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Speaker 3: the NBA.

453
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Speaker 1: He kind of reminds you of a is the body

454
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Speaker 1: of a Zach Randolph, you know, somebody you don't expect

455
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: much athletically from. But then also he has to, you know,

456
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: to touch as Zach Randolph did. But then he goes

457
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: out to the arc, and then he kind of has

458
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: a touch of at Dirk Winsky. He's like five six

459
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: inches bigger than Jack exactly, and then you bring it

460
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 1: to Dirk Lewinsky and you're like, all right, Like he

461
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: kind of can play with that. He has to fadeaways,

462
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: as we saw against from Beyonna that the classic. You

463
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: know that's that's going to be attached to Kole Yochus's

464
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: name for forever that fade away over Win Banyana, and

465
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Speaker 1: that's right there. It's like he's a mix with so

466
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Speaker 1: many different players. You haven't seen it before. You haven't

467
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,719
Speaker 1: seen it. Like Dave said, he's he's more athletic than

468
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Speaker 1: what people give him credit for because he doesn't have

469
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Speaker 1: the body of the typical NBA player. He's not sitting

470
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Speaker 1: there with with a twelve pack and five percent body

471
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Speaker 1: fat and you know, running fast down and catching lobs,

472
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Speaker 1: and he's playing fundamental basketball and he's dominating with it

473
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Speaker 1: and you love to see it. And it kind of

474
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Speaker 1: goes back to what is going on for American sports

475
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: where all the best basketball players are now coming from overseas.

476
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Speaker 1: All the most fundamental players are coming from overseas. Every

477
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Speaker 1: player that we're pretty much talking about now is not

478
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Speaker 1: from America, and that's crazy. You talk about Joker, you're

479
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: talking about women, Yanna, you talk about Sga.

480
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Speaker 2: Luca Luca.

481
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Speaker 1: These are not American players. And so once again there's

482
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Speaker 1: a problem with AAU basketball. There's a problem with the

483
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Speaker 1: development of basketball in America. And this is why all

484
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Speaker 1: these foreign players are coming from overseas and dominating the NBA.

485
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Speaker 2: Rob here on Thursday, very excited to be here with you,

486
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Speaker 2: right back on Kwa.

487
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Speaker 1: Actually it was even longer than that. I don't say,

488
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Speaker 1: because I got there at too, But we really didn't

489
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Speaker 1: even get started till Katy'll start for dinner. I didn't

490
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Speaker 1: even have dinner last night. What about your artist? No, no,

491
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Speaker 1: no no, I was drinking the water. I was like, man,

492
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Speaker 1: this like, I'm the type I don't like to take breaks.

493
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Speaker 1: Just just do it, just get it over with. And

494
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: he was like, I can appreciate that. So we just

495
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Speaker 1: went all the way through. It was really more like

496
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Speaker 1: i'd say it was like seven and a half eight,

497
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: because we really started like three thirty three forty five.

498
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Speaker 1: I got home at eleven thirty, but it was in Littleton,

499
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Speaker 1: so I had to drive thirty five minutes too, so.

500
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Speaker 3: We had a nine to seven zero texture. This argument

501
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: discounts our great Jordan was defensively No, we were just

502
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Speaker 3: talking offensive right, both Jordan was elite. Jordan was the

503
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Speaker 3: elite on both ends. Well, sure, well it's coming out

504
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: now that a lot of his stats were fudge. How so, well,

505
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: people are going back and watching the games and getting

506
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Speaker 3: the stats in the games, and they don't match up

507
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Speaker 3: with the stats that they're trying to say that he had.

508
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Speaker 1: Why would that happen? I don't know, actually, but like

509
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Speaker 1: that's like the biggest gripe I guess they're saying about

510
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: the old scorers back in the day, is that some

511
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: of these statses pop out about aim out of nowhere.

512
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Speaker 1: They'd be like, all right, he had five steals that game,

513
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 1: and you watch the game he had two.

514
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Speaker 3: Well, they used to say the same thing about tackles

515
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. Gratish are forever and Paul Zimmerman, the

516
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: late writer for ESPN, was the one that I think

517
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Speaker 3: championed this particular argument.

518
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Speaker 1: But he questioned because Randy had over two hundred tackles.

519
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Speaker 3: Uh, I want to say, if not several a handful

520
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: of times in the league, that's that's a bunch of tackles.

521
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Speaker 3: But that dude made a lot of tackles. So I'm

522
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Speaker 3: not here to dispute how many he had. But that's yeah,

523
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: those type numbers because they're a little bit subjective, right,

524
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Speaker 3: I mean, were you the first guy there was the

525
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: guy going down and you then jumped on the pot.

526
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's all sorts of ways to sort that,

527
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Speaker 3: but I wouldn't think. I wouldn't think NBA stats would

528
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Speaker 3: be subjective at all.

529
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Speaker 1: Maybe assist. Maybe I hadn't heard to rebound.

530
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Speaker 2: I had heard them going back over his numbers. But

531
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Speaker 2: don't you just watched Jordan play. I don't know, there's

532
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Speaker 2: a little bit of he's pretty good.

533
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Speaker 1: Yeah he was.

534
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Speaker 2: Okay, he's okay, Yeah, he's a pretty good player.

535
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Speaker 1: Okay, illed to up. A twenty twenty four report by

536
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Speaker 1: Yeaho's Sports highlighted that Michael Jordan's nineteen eighty seven and

537
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight Defensive Players of Year stats were likely

538
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: inflated by home scorekeepers, and analysis found in one hundred

539
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: and eighty two percent disparity in blocks and steals between

540
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Speaker 1: his home and away games. Oh okay, okay, all right,

541
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: showing potential stat padding through experts. Note this is this

542
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Speaker 1: Homer bias was common in that era.

543
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Speaker 2: Okay, but this isn't Pippins behind That isn't right, a

544
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: level of petty that is that is another level of petty.

545
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: But is that like his entire career is being called

546
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: into questions at certain times.

547
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Speaker 1: Is this one number? Is this? Evidence suggests that in

548
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Speaker 1: several home games, Jordan was credited with more steals than

549
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Speaker 1: an opposing team had total turnovers, and multiple dead ball

550
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Speaker 1: turnovers were credited as steals to him. Okay, oh wow,

551
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Speaker 1: that was Okay. I mean, like you know, back in

552
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: the day, I guess you know, you could do stuff

553
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: like that and people.

554
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Speaker 2: So is the argument that they should strip him of

555
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: that award? Okay, it's the argument.

556
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Speaker 1: It's more of like when people try to talk about

557
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Speaker 1: how great Jordan was defensively and just like how we

558
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: kind of got on. A lot of people will bring up, now,

559
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Speaker 1: wha did you hear about some A lot of his

560
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: stats were kind of fudge back then when it came defense.

561
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Speaker 1: So you can't obviously do anything about scoring. You got

562
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Speaker 1: to score the points, you know what I mean. But

563
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Speaker 1: like certain little things like that where it could be

564
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Speaker 1: a toss up, they would get given it to him. Okay,

565
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Speaker 1: I had not heard that story.

566
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: I had neither that interesting stuff. By tomorrow at three o'clock,

567
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: ran of Garrett Bulls in studio. Okay, look forward to

568
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: having the Broncos starting left tackle in studio. Of course,

569
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about his incredible tragedy work

570
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: that he did over the course of the year with

571
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Speaker 2: us on our program and checking with the off season.

572
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Speaker 2: It's interesting as we're two weeks out from the draft,

573
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about what Bronco fans' expectation is of

574
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: that second round pick because they've been out of shape

575
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: about the playtime of Jade baron first round pick. Right, Hey,

576
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: you traffic on the first round as you play play

577
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: significant role. The Broncos clearly had a different mindset with

578
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: that pick, as was do they still have the same

579
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: mindset of the second round pick since that's the first

580
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Speaker 2: pick for the Broncos.

581
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Speaker 3: I think yes, but to this degree, I think because

582
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: they don't have a first round pick, I think maybe

583
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: you start to lean into the Okay, what positions are

584
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: we absolutely looking at in the draft, and then if

585
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: they're if they stay where they are in the second

586
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: round and you've got two choices in one you have

587
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: graded a little bit, not a lot, but a little

588
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: bit higher, and the other is a position that you

589
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: have identified as we have to go to work on

590
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: this position, these positions in the draft, then maybe you

591
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: take that guy.

592
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Speaker 2: I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I mean,

593
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: I think tight end would be the one. I was

594
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: reading an article today saying what's the biggest need for

595
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: the Broncos, and that was what they listed as as

596
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: they thought was tight end. And there's probably be a

597
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: couple around there. There was another article I was reading

598
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Speaker 2: today saying like, don't be surprised if the Broncos go

599
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: offensive tackle there at sixty two, which you have a

600
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Speaker 2: thirty four year old left tackle, you have a thirty

601
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: one year old right tackle. It would make some sense there,

602
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: but you're not starting him year one, so then you

603
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: have to accept that that's a great there.

604
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of a misnomer,

605
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: even for a first arn draft choice. If you're drafted

606
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: to a good team, or you're drafted on the side

607
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: of the ball that is really strong and plays really

608
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: well for in this case, an AFC championship team, it

609
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you can't play if you didn't wind up

610
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: starting your first year. Now, if we're sitting here talking

611
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: about Jahne Barron and he didn't get any more tick

612
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: in his second season than he did in his first season, okay,

613
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: then I think it's you know, are open to discussing like, hmm,

614
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: what do you think has happened here? And how are

615
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: they going to rectify this situation and what does this

616
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: mean for the Broncos moving forward at that position? But

617
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he was drafted by a team that had

618
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: a really good defense and the nickelback Jaquan McMillan.

619
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Speaker 1: Had an excellent Year's that's going to happen.

620
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Speaker 3: So what happens this year and how he forces the

621
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Speaker 3: Broncos with his offseason work and how he shows up

622
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: for mini camp and in training camp, he's got to

623
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: force their hand and say we've got to get twenty

624
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: three on the field somehow, someway.

625
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Speaker 1: If he's not in the field and it's a failure,

626
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, well for him, it should

627
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: be a complete failure because politics is all over your side.

628
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: And as a seventh round pick, you know, on a

629
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: former seventh round pick, I've seen the politics work both ways.

630
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Speaker 1: You know, you see a guy who should be playing

631
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick and he's not. You see a

632
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: guy who's a first round pick and he's playing and

633
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: he shouldn't. This is his chance to go out there

634
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: and play. They're going to try to get on every

635
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: opportunity possible. But if you're saying O lion with that

636
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: second round pick, that's not completely a blasphemous thing to

637
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: say because you have no more guaranteed money for Michael Vinci.

638
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, you just resigned Garrett Bowles. So the idea,

639
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: and any NFL player will tell you this, they're trying

640
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: to replace you the minute they sign you. They're trying

641
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: to find a way to go cheaper the minute they can.

642
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: And so I offensive tackled that position that possibly slide

643
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: in next year to save some money because you're going

644
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: to eventually have to shell it out to your quarterback.

645
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: It does make sense. It's not completely crazy to even

646
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: think about that. But that's the draft gymnastics you have

647
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: to do, is because you have to think about the

648
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: future and the now at the same time where you're

649
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: making these decisions.

650
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Speaker 2: Predrick Perkins that was accusing Nikola one of those MVP seasons.

651
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: He's like, he's a staff pattern.

652
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that was Perkins. Yeah, no, wait a minute,

653
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I thought it was Perkins on ESPN

654
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: who was the guy that had a fast break intentionally

655
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Speaker 1: missed the layups so he can get a triple double.

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Speaker 1: Or double double or something like that. I can't remember,

657
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Speaker 1: but like, that's what I think of.

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Speaker 2: I think a stab add in Niccologic does not stab

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Speaker 2: had In fact, I mean I say the opposite of that,

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Speaker 2: because that's that's a weird thing to say. But there

661
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Speaker 2: are times when we've historically been like, why don't you

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Speaker 2: score more? Why don't you take over more? You seem

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Speaker 2: to be wanting to pass the ball a lot, and

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Speaker 2: I mean he settled in nicely to doing whatever he

665
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Speaker 2: needs to do in every single game, but there have

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Speaker 2: been times where I'm like, Okay, you could score more,

667
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Speaker 2: you could be a little more selfish, and he's.

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Speaker 3: Just not Texter ninety five six four o four are

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Speaker 3: Vetus Sibonis is the only one that I remember similar

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Speaker 3: to Jokic. I would say his his he was he

671
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Speaker 3: was one of the one of the first, not the first,

672
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Speaker 3: but one of the first great passing big men. Had

673
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: had an excellent game inside, but nowhere near the kind

674
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Speaker 3: of three point game that that Jokich has. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Bonas was down in the blocks, but a great, great

676
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Speaker 3: pass or nice touch really really a depth scoring machine.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's asked if we blocked them, No, I don't think

678
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Speaker 2: we even have the capability at least a mi end.

679
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Speaker 2: I'm sure higher UPSTROWI could. But no, you were not blocked.

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Speaker 2: We see your tap O.

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Speaker 1: Tell the truth. People tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even know if I would want

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Speaker 2: to do that. Yes, she would, even even the haters.

684
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Speaker 2: Yes she would this one. Yes, of course, Ryan, you

685
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Speaker 2: always wanted the early prospects to play inside linebacker, tight end,

686
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Speaker 2: running back to maybe not the extent as the years.

687
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Speaker 2: Our roster is in fairly great shape. Stop drafting edge cornerback,

688
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Speaker 2: wide receiver at BPA. It will be a great shape. Well,

689
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Speaker 2: I I don't really tend to have an issue with

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Speaker 2: drafting from strength like I I once again, if you

691
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Speaker 2: like Johnny Barron and you think he's a two contract

692
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Speaker 2: player for you, and they do and they did, Yeah,

693
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Speaker 2: didn't take him. You have him me Eyer on your board,

694
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Speaker 2: stick to your board and be good with it.

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Speaker 3: I would just suggest, I mean, I would say this.

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Speaker 3: I understand why Broncos fans would think, Hey, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he was the first round pick, twentieth overall, so we're

698
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Speaker 3: excited about him. He's certainly going to get playing time.

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Speaker 3: He didn't get a lot of playing time. But Jakawon

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Speaker 3: McMillan played out of his mind, right, So where else

701
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Speaker 3: are you going to play? You're going to take You

702
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Speaker 3: got to take Riley Moss or Pastor Tan out of

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 1: You're not.

705
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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that doesn't mean Jaddi Barren can't play.

706
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Speaker 3: This just means he came to a really good defense.

707
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Speaker 3: And the wild card in this thing was Jakwan McMillan.

708
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Speaker 3: He played to the point they couldn't take him out

709
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Speaker 3: of the game. That's the beauty of the NFL. And

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Speaker 3: that's why I've always respected the Broncos and how they

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Speaker 3: do things. And it brings me back to how I

712
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Speaker 3: made the team my first year here. I was like

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Speaker 3: six in a depth chart. They drafted to Barcus Walker

714
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Speaker 3: in the second round and I beat them.

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Speaker 1: All out, you know. And that's the thing. If you

716
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Speaker 1: are able to go out there and show consistently that

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Speaker 1: you can be the better player, they will play you.

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Speaker 1: And it's been consistent throughout all the years the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: and and I will give them credit because a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams are not like that. And you know, they

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Speaker 1: let the politics take control of the playing time and

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Speaker 1: I feel like here in Denver, if you're good, it

723
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you're drafted, you're going to play. And

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Speaker 1: that's how they've kind of conducted things here. But also

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Speaker 1: as a player, isn't that what you would want you?

726
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Speaker 1: Especially sure as a vet watching young guys kind of

727
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Speaker 1: like as a guy who's been places where you've seen

728
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Speaker 1: guys that get anointed, it feels good when you see

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Speaker 1: them actually have to go earn it because when they

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Speaker 1: do finally grasp it, when they do finally achieve that goal,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to let it go, compared to somebody

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Speaker 1: else who if you just give it to them, they

733
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Speaker 1: don't understand what they have while they have it.

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Speaker 2: Somebody said, Shelby, that was your boy Yannis that missed

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Speaker 2: a layup to try for a triple double?

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Speaker 1: Non do that? Do that under that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hey that sounds like ya honest.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, all right, we'll come back. I want

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Speaker 2: to follow up on this this topic though. For a moment,

741
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Speaker 2: and because I was I was seeing a stat about

742
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Speaker 2: team investments in specific sides of the ball. You won't

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Speaker 2: believe some of the numbers coming out of that. I

744
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Speaker 2: want to get into that, and if there are positions

745
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Speaker 2: that are best to draft versus positions best to add

746
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Speaker 2: free agency, we'll get to that