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Speaker 1: launching a multi million dollar nationwide affordability campaign. Donald and Neil,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Morning Show. It's always great having

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Speaker 2: Brian. Despite being in DC, I'm gladly with you.

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Speaker 1: I was getting ready to offer some condolences your venue.

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Speaker 1: I don't end to you at all, Donovan. So STAF

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Speaker 1: it doesn't quite remember resemble America, at least that as

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Speaker 1: I know it. Anyway, AFP's joined with the Libra Initiative

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Speaker 1: and Concerned Veterans for America teaming up to well spread

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Speaker 1: the love about affordability agenda and providing some options for

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Speaker 1: Americans to get some long term solutions to energy, housing,

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Speaker 1: healthcare and everything else. That's the people deem unaffordable. But

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Speaker 1: you did a survey which is a real eye opener, Donovan,

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred registered voters. This was before the gas price

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Speaker 1: But I know we're all struggling with that, Donovan. I

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Speaker 3: Donovan, Well, yeah, you know, we're we're an organization right

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Speaker 3: every day, Brian, as you and your listeners will know,

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Speaker 2: We've got to get our policy agenda on track in

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Speaker 3: The real reality actually here is we aren't focused on

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Speaker 1: Right, A longer term solution, which cord of the polling

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Speaker 1: It turns out people are really really astute to where

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Speaker 1: And by overwhelming numbers, voters believe government actions well raise

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Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, And you know what I would say to

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Speaker 3: Or you know, you can follow through one of the things,

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Speaker 2: But along that path, we made good things happen.

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Speaker 3: We fixed the problems that so many people have, you know,

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in the moment right now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: for Prosperity. It's afpaction dot com where folks go to

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Speaker 3: to learn about this affordability campaign and the work we're

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Speaker 1: Easy action item for people to accomplish without even