1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Today's program is dedicated to Dana Carvey, who's not dead. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Don't get worried. Four one two eight three three. 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: I got the number wrong because that's still dumb that 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: four one two's in the middle of the damn number 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: to call the show. Look just doll a bunch of numbers. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Maybe you'll get through. You can also follow me on 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: Twitter at Mark Madden X. We got calls on the fifteens. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: You'll figure it out. I have faith in you calling 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: out for calls on the fifteens. We talked at length 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: about the Penguin game at the shows open with Tom, 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: talked about Craft not making the Hall of Fame. Talk 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: about Eli. We'll get more to Eli Manning, but I've 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: got to be honest, I'm not so sure he should 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: get in the Hall of Fame period. Oh I didn't 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: get to this this yet. We got the Hennio Suadez 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: deal or no deal with the Pirates turn out to 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: be no deal. He signed for one year fifteen MILI 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 2: with Cincinnati with a division rival, with a mutual option 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: for a second year at sixteen mil. Both team and 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: player have to agree, and the Pirates just missed. Were 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: told all the fanboys who cover the Pirates, they have 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: the same story about what the Pirates offered. 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It's amazing how they all had the 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: same story. 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: Gee, I wonder where they could have got it from. 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: Uh you hear the Suarez didn't want to play in 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: the ballpark PNC Park as a right handed power hitter, 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: some cockamami excuse. Suarez had been projected to make longer 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: term and more average annual value than fifteen mil. So 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: the Pirates should offered two years, forty million, twenty million 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: a year. That's still chump change in baseball, but for 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: the Pirates, it's always going to be cheaper to just miss. 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: The Pirates have done what they wanted by getting Aherne 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: and Lou. They've improved just enough to fool you. That's 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: all they wanted to do. They've improved just enough to 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: fool you. They're gonna win like seventy seven games maybe 38 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: if everything goes good, if nobody gets injured, that matters 39 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: a lot. And you know what, not getting Huhenio does 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: moving forward bring back Cutch. 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: You know what's great about Kutch? 42 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: They pretty much dumped on him, and he got, you know, 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 2: in a social media battle. Well not with them because 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: they didn't respond, but he got all pissy because Kutch 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: likes the sound of his own voice complaining. 46 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: But now they'll sign him and he'll take it. 47 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: He'll come crawling back on his belly like a worm, 48 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: because Kutch just wants paid more than anything. Couch don't 49 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: want respect. Couch just wants paid. Whatever he can get 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: to be a mascot he's gonna take because he ain't 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: got no pride, at least not the pride that an 52 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: a legend Hall of Famer should have. 53 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: Come and get some. 54 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: I want to get an Eli Manning stuff too, since 55 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: today's show is all over the place and I like 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: it like that. I think you do too. Eli Manning 57 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: didn't get in Hall of Fame on the second try. 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: We talked about that some. 59 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Did we talk about it Thursday? Maybe? I don't know. 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: By the way, Niagara Falls, Hooters wings big Shot Bobs, 61 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: and I love the big sexy flavor of the one 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: I invented. I love big Shot bobs. They have to 63 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: invent they have to mimic the Hooters recipe. What a 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: one to two punch that would be for your super 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Bowl Party, Big Sexy Wings, Hooter sty Wings from Big 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Shot Bobs. Gotta figure it out, guys, gotta figure it out. 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Maybe Eli Manning shouldn't make it at all. Seriously, what 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: do you think? Eight three three four one two wxdxc 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: I got the number right there. 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 71 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: Eli won two Super Bowls, but so did Jim Plunkett, 72 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: and nobody talking about him should be in the Hall 73 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: of Fame. Eli beat Brady in both of those. That 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: CONTs for something. He ended the undefeated season for the 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: Patrins that cons for even more. But his lifetime record 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: is exactly five hundred, one seventeen and one seventeen. He 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: never made All Pro, not first team, on second team. 78 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: If his last name wasn't Manning and he played in Tennessee, 79 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: he'd have zero chance at the Hall of Fame. So 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: your thoughts on Eli eight three three four one two 81 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: wxdx I mean, is there any that like Ben? Ben 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: should be a first ballot Hall of Famer? And he's 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: way better than Eli, way better than Eli. Who else 84 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: went in that draft? Phil Rivers right, way better than 85 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: Phil Rivers. But and when Tom and I were talking earlier, 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: it came up to Joe Namas was actually under five 87 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: hundred in his career. But Joe Namath played for the 88 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Jets and made them good. That's that's like Moses and 89 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: the Red Sea. Crap, How do you do that? How 90 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: do you do that? Aaron Rodgers, when these are the 91 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: Jets and things were just going to excrement, he probably 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: was thinking, how did name It pull it off? This 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: is just impossible? And Joe called him up and said, 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: come and get some No, seriously, how name It win 95 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: with the Jets? And and name It won the biggest 96 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: game in pro football history. He did the biggest game 97 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: in pro football history. Super Bowl three facilitated the merger 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: made football not right then and there, but it laid 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: the groundwork for the NFL to become the biggest sports 100 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: league in America. 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: If you're not old, you don't know. 102 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: But up until then, the three big sports were baseball, boxing, 103 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: and horse racing. Those were the three big sports, and 104 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: Joe Namath changed all that. Uh, what else do we 105 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: got to talk about? Do I want to talk about 106 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: the Netflix thing on Miracle and Ice? 107 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Not yet? 108 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: Actually no, it's a good, good conversation. Where were you 109 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: when you found out the US one? Because it was 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: on tape delay. 111 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: I was. 112 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: A bunch of friends of my played for North Catholic 113 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: High School hockey and I wrote about that team a 114 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: lot when I was a stringer for the Post Gazette 115 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: and for a paper called the North Hillst Free Press 116 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: back then. And they were on a trip to New 117 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: Hampshire to play some prep schools. So I went with them, 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: and we all found out that the US won, you know, 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: before the game aired, and like it was weird because 120 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: like now I'm wired that if I find out a score, 121 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to watch the tape of the game. 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Ruins it for me. And I was a kid then, 123 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: I was like nineteen or whatever. 124 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: But but all our thoughts were, whoa, we got to 125 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: see how the frig they pulled this off. It just 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: seemed unbelievable. It was like a UFO landing that that 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: could happen. So where were you when you found out 128 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: that the US won in nineteen eight against the Soviets. 129 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: Staying with hockey, I finished up heated Rivalry, which will 130 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: get a second season, the Gay Hockey Series, And I 131 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: call it that because that's the easiest way to describe it. 132 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: But it's really good TV. 133 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: At the end of should I give out a spoiler 134 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it by now, screw you. The 135 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: Canadian guy's parents find out the dad sees the two 136 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: players kissing. 137 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: It's a good series, good TV. 138 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: It's over the top and jumps the shark once in 139 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: a while, but it's uncharted waters. 140 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Well. 141 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: Playmakers remember that the ESPN football drama they had the 142 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: one gay player, but it wasn't just based on him. 143 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: Point is, it's good and not just gay, if that 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: makes sense, And it's way better than all these freaking 145 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: Taylor sharedon series that seem exactly the same. Like when 146 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: I turn on the new season of Mary Kingstown, I 147 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: find myself thinking, okay, this is where the last episode 148 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: of land Man left off. It just all those series 149 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: seem the same. The one moment in He'd Arrived where 150 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: it didn't ring true is the New York team won 151 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup and their captain was the cause of 152 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: the gay man and he invited his boyfriend on the 153 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: ice after the Cup presentation. Okay, and everybody says, well, 154 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, everybody else had a loved one down there, 155 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: and he wanted no, no, he wouldn't do that because 156 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: that made him coming out the story and detracted from 157 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: the team winning the Stanley Cup. And no hockey player 158 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: would do that. I'm just telling you they wouldn't. No 159 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: hockey player in that moment would make it about himself. 160 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: Just not gonna happen. But then again, that's why it's TV. 161 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: It's poetic license. Come and get some one O five 162 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: nine X. 163 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: It's my solution is give me my cake and eat 164 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: me too. 165 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: The X. 166 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: I thought the Bat was discussing Mike tom was legacy. Yeah, 167 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: they won't talk about one part of his legacy. 168 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you that. 169 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: I've talked enough about Will Howard for one day. If 170 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: you want to chime in, go ahead eight three three 171 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: four one two w xd x. 172 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Same with the Steelers coaching staff. 173 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: I just can't dwell on that all the time when 174 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: we all know and you do two. You won't admit 175 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: it to yourself, but but you know that This is 176 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: all leading to nine and eight, ten and seven, Same 177 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: old story, same old song and dance. I'm looking forward 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: to tonight's Penguins game against the Island. It seems big, 179 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: especially with Washington coming up fast from behind after beating 180 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: the Islanders last night four to one. Especially with Columbus 181 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: just not going away and having beaten the Penguins in 182 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: the shootout at home a couple of weeks back. 183 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: Second place in opening up some cushion. 184 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: Seems paramount, especially going into the Olympic break when you're 185 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: gonna get Malkin recuperating and resting, Latang healing that bum foot. 186 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: Ben Kendall eighteen years old, getting so much needed R 187 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: and R. So these next two games at the Islanders 188 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: tonight and at Buffalo on the Thursday are pretty big. 189 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm at Pittsburgh Brewing Company in Creighton tonight, at Carson's 190 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: in Scottdale on Thursday, and then for my Super Bowl 191 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: party at Celebrations in Imperial, Da, Da DA. So be 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: sure to check out the Mark Madden Trained as it 193 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: keeps rolling everywhere. I feel like like back in the 194 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: old day when a Blinken would take a train from 195 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 2: Ton to Ton and wave off the caboose at the stations. 196 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: I am as popular as Abe Lincoln, although I think 197 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: I've done mankind more good than him. We got to 198 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Tom Wilson hit to discuss took Stank COVID's head off 199 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: when Washington played Carolina, but he got no hearing, no suspension, 200 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: no fine, not even a penalty, and all the excuses 201 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: got made. He took the right angle unquote inadvert and 202 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: head contact unquote, and Brian Russ got three games for 203 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: that hit against Vancouver at the very end of the game. 204 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: And what Rust did just wasn't as bad. It's simple. 205 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: George Paros was a goon when he played. He runs 206 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: player safety, he protects goons. Ice might as well be 207 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: in charge of NHL player safety. Let's go to Denny. Denny, 208 00:11:59,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: you're all with up. 209 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, you just took my question away, But I 210 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: will say I didn't look up Dana Carvey's get some 211 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: and it is hilarious and I get it, and yeah, 212 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: it's a great. 213 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: Who's Dana Carvey? 214 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: Great? 215 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, Come and get some. 216 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Will Howard stuff, I mean, people are just 217 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: beating that to death down the dial. 218 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: He's not gonna play. He's certainly not gonna start. 219 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: It's McCarthy and rooney telling you what you want to hear, 220 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: paying lip service, and I'll tell you what is going 221 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: to happen. He's gonna play a ton of the preseason, 222 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: for sure. A ton of the preseason might do. Okay, 223 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, but people comparing the Mendoza because they 224 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: have similar stats and they both want to Natty. I 225 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: keep seeing that phrase. They both want to Natty. You 226 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: don't know about quarterbacks, fat ass? They both want to Natty. 227 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: You didn't know, Natty, fat ass? They both want to Natty. 228 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: He'll be the third string quarterback again this coming season. 229 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: In fact, I will bet anybody a noisy thousand bucks 230 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: the barring injury, he is the third quarterback on the 231 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: depth chart when camp breaks, no doubt on that. And 232 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: if you think that's wrong, well I guess you know 233 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: more about quarterback than the Steelers do too. Like I said, 234 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: this is all friggin lip service. Call Pierre McGuire joining 235 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: us in just a few minutes. The Robert Craft thing, 236 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: all he did was own a team. He just invested 237 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of money and his team happened to be good. 238 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: How much did he really have to do with it? 239 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: Not like Pittsburgh where Dan Rooney had everything to do 240 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: with it. How much did Craft really have to do 241 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: with it? To me, that's Belichick and Brady. Then again, 242 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: back when it was Dan and Art Junior. But it 243 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: was me and Joe Green, Terry Bradshaw. I just think 244 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: I'd feel more comfortable Halls of Fame if they were 245 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: just for players, maybe coaches, I don't know, But like 246 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: this owner stuff, it seems like lifetime achieved, and it 247 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: seems like cronyism. 248 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn of craft makes it or not. 249 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: I don't feel it's particularly insulting to him or to 250 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. 251 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: He's an old man. 252 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: If he dies before he gets in, well he's a billionaire. 253 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: He did okay anyway, got all those handies down the 254 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: massage parlor. He's led a good life. Frankly, how long 255 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: ago was that he got caught with that? I'm impressed. 256 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: Isn't the New York Giants owner on the Epstein List. 257 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, judicially, the safest place in the 258 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: world to be is in that Epstein list because our 259 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: ruling class doesn't govern itself anymore. Come and get some 260 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: Pierre Maguire next one oh five to nine. Hey, find 261 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: yourself needing a little post holiday cash infusion? Say no more? Yeah, 262 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: says you're shot at extra cap. 263 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Just big and it's soft, and I 264 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: use a bunch of Pillows and I saw the exit 265 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: one oh five nine. 266 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: Between the Penguins and the upcoming Olympics. We got a 267 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: ton to talk about joining me now. The best guy 268 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: to tak hockey anywhere, he's not at all in the 269 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: Great Game. 270 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: He is Pierre Maguire. Pierre. 271 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: The Penguins were awful in that lost last night to Ottawa. 272 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Made a ton of mistakes that they hadn't been making. 273 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: What happened. 274 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: They ran into a team that's really desperate and urging 275 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: for points too. I didn't like the third period of 276 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: the Ranger game. Obviously, it was a lot closer than 277 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: what it should have been, and I think that's when 278 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: they kind of let their guard down a little bit. 279 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: They're a young team. They'll bounce back from it. I'm 280 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: sure they'll play at bet m Gine tonight with the Odors. 281 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: But Ottawa's urging for points. Timmy Stitzeler was really good 282 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: in that game. Jake Sanderson was phenomenal in that game. 283 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: Drake Bacterson had one of his best games in a 284 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: long time for Ottawa, and Arvin Zoom and Jake Sanderson 285 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: as a Tan and frustrated the heck out of most 286 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: of the attacking forwards for Pittsburgh. So it was a 287 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: tough night. Anytime you have less than twenty shots in 288 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: an NHL game, and Pittsburgh only had sixteen, that's not 289 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: a very good night to your group. 290 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: Did Ottawa do anything in particular tactically to stifle the 291 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: Penguins attack. 292 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: They tried to get Puckston behind their defense, for sure, 293 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: and you can see that was kind of frustrating. Pittsburgh 294 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: had forced him to go two hundred feet. He didn't 295 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: see them play into the counter attack game that Pittsburgh 296 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: likes to play. And I thought the biggest thing is 297 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: they found a way to get through the neutral zone. 298 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: And I think part of that was is Pittsburgh didn't 299 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: have a great night. Ottawa found a way to get 300 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: through the neutral zone, which usually doesn't happen against Pittsburgh. 301 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Even Sid played just awful. 302 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: That's always an outliar with Sid Pierre, but it shows 303 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: how bad the night went for the Penguins. 304 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: I really thought it was a disappointing night. And again 305 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: I used to broader their shots on goal. You can 306 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: have bad knights and get to twenty, but if you're 307 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: below twenty, you're having a real bad night. They had 308 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: sixteen last night, and I think one of the biggest 309 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: things when you look at it, you know, power play opportunities. 310 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: You know, they only had one power play opportunity. That 311 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: means they weren't moving their feet, they weren't trying to 312 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: get under the skin of the Ottawa Center, the Ottawa Senators. 313 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: So again, it happens over eighty two games. Not every 314 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: game is going to be a Rembrandt. Last night certainly wasn't. 315 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: How about are the Islanders tonight's opponent? 316 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: Because this game at Queens seems like a pretty big game, 317 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: and that Shafer kids unreal. 318 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: Matthew Shafer should be on the Canadian Olympic team. He's not. 319 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: I have no idea why, but he's not. Probably because 320 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: he's eighteen years old. But nonetheless, I think you should 321 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: still be on there. There's a lot there. Now, I'm 322 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: not going to pretend there's a lot there. That the 323 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: Islanders are really well. Coach Patrick's done a really good job. 324 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: S Oaken's been great and go. They're big on defense, 325 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: they're mobile and defense shapers obviously one of their go 326 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: to guys. They're getting better played from Barzel than what 327 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: they've had in the last couple of years. They're getting 328 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: really good played by boor Hope. Bowls over ideed for 329 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: me to say, and Patty's pushed a lot of good buttons. 330 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 3: They've they're much more delevant than what a lot of 331 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: Punans thought they would be. And Mark at the start 332 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: of the year, if you will look back, most people 333 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: had Patrick Wawsby in the first coach fired this season 334 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 3: and he is definitely not. 335 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: Back trailing the Honors and Penguins. How big of a 336 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: threat are Washington and Columbus right now? 337 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: Columbus is a threat and Columbus is a threat because 338 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: they're hot. They've believe in their coach, Rick Bonas, who 339 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: just came in obviously to replace Teen Edison, And they've 340 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: got one of the best scoring defenseman in the league, 341 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: if not the best, in Zach Lrensky. And they've got 342 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: an arsenal young forwards led by Fantilly Adam Fantilly, who 343 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: are really good, way under value, so they're tough, and 344 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: anybody that goes into Columbus, no, that's a very hard 345 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: building to play in. 346 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: Pierre, I want to talk Olympics. The tournament starts one 347 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: week from tomorrow. Who is your favorite, and why give 348 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: me one? 349 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: Well, right now, I have Canada as my favorite, but 350 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: I'll tell you how close I think it will be. 351 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: If the Americans can get some production from their wingers, Mark, 352 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 3: I think that will make a massive difference because if 353 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: you look at the American team down the middle, Austin Matthews, 354 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 3: Jack Michael Tates, Thompson, Dyl Markins, I'm moving Brock Nelson 355 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: over to the wing, Vinnie Trotec's gonna be a winger 356 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: who will take face off. If you look at their 357 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: defense with Zach Brensky, Jacob Slave and Jake Sanderson, Charlie mcway, 358 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: quinn used, Jackson McComb, Noah Henderson, and Brock favorite without 359 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: a doubt in the tournament, the US has the best defense. 360 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: Their goaltending is as good as most, but not the best. 361 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: They're probably in the top two. The reason why I 362 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: have Canada winning right now quick straight offensive capability from McKinnon, 363 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: from McDavid, from Crosby, from all these different guys. They 364 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: just added Sam Bennett, so I'm looking at it. Okay, 365 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: what's track Canada's downfall? Nobody really knows what they're going 366 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 3: to get in goal, and nobody knows how their defense 367 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: is going to hold up against aggressive quart check teams. 368 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: So my only record recourse is play heads to Canada. 369 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: But I think they'll play the United States in the final, 370 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: and if the US gets off there gets started as 371 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: the US win. 372 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: Will Canada stick with Bennington and goal the whole way? 373 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: Or will John Cooper the coach, will he have an 374 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: open mind about his netminer. 375 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: I was gonna have a mind. 376 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 5: How could you not? 377 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean, Jordan Dinnington has been very good this year. 378 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: Saint Louis has been one of the bigger disappointments. Saint 379 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: Louis Blues and the New York Rangers have clearly been 380 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: two of the end of New Jersey Devils, three of 381 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: the biggest disappointments this NFL season. But Saint Louis is 382 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: right in that group of New Jersey and New York Rangers. 383 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: Did the US pick the wrong kind of team? Pierre? 384 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like you think so, but I do. 385 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: I think it's heavy at the expensive speed and skill. 386 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: And I say that because I look at who got 387 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: left off. 388 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: Well, I listened, Jason Robertson was there, and I really 389 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: wished to col Koffie was there, and I watched Montreal 390 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: every single game because they do all their post games, 391 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 3: and I would love to see Lane Hudson on there, 392 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: but I understand where they went with their defense. Quinn 393 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: Hughes is as good as Lane Hudson, he really is. 394 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: So there's really not a need for another small guy 395 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: in the back end. But you can't tell me you 396 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: can't have Coole Coffee on your team. Pull Coffee is 397 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: one of the biggest game breakers in the game today. 398 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: Jason Robertson's a leading scorer for US foreign players goalscorer 399 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 3: for usborn players so far this season. I mean, so, 400 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: I think that you're right, they've left some guys off 401 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 3: the board. I hope they don't regret it. 402 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: Will the refereeing allow the game to be played like 403 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: was it the Four Nations? 404 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: Because I don't think so. 405 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: No, And part of that is because the Four Nations 406 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: wasn't international rules. He was a NHL rules right, This 407 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 3: is going to be international rules, and they're subtle differences. 408 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: One of the differences is you can't win faceoffs with 409 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: your feet. That's number one, and that's a big thing 410 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: for North American players. Number two, and this is a 411 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: big one. Any shot to the head, whether it's incidental 412 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: or not, that's a penalty, so you've got to be 413 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: mindful of that. Three. They really pay attention to all 414 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: stick violations, so even a little pap on the risk 415 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: can be given a penalty. So I don't think the 416 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 3: officiating will be the same because the rule book's not 417 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: the same. 418 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Where does Sweden and Finland fit in. I just wish 419 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: Finland had Barkoff. I think that would make obviously a 420 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: huge difference and maybe even propel them to having a 421 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: shot at the gold medal. 422 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: I agree. I feel terrible for Finland no Barkoff, and 423 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: I feel awful for the Swedes in particular. The Swedes 424 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: aren't going to have Leo Carlson, who's just a fantastic player. 425 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: Not enough people see him play because he plays an Anaheim. 426 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: They're not going to have Jonas Burdeen. Jonas Burdeen is 427 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 3: the king of shutdowns on Connor McDavid. I think if 428 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 3: the Swedes would have had the entire Arsenal player, and 429 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: I think if they would have had, you know, obviously 430 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: Leo Carlson and had a chance to manufacture an upset 431 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: in the quarter finals, I think the Swedes could have 432 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: potentially had a chance to win the world medal. I 433 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: don't think they have that anymore. Too many losses to 434 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: injury for their team. 435 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: We're talking to Pierre Maguire. 436 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: Pierre broadc was by always say flagging in traffic control, Pierre, 437 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: who's your sleeper? 438 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: Maybe not to get gold, but to get a medal. 439 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: I think Finland, and I'll tell you why. I've been 440 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: doing this for a long time in international hockey, and 441 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: I played over there too. The Fins are the most industrious, 442 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: hard working country when it comes to really preparing for 443 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: bronze medal games. And people would laugh at that. And 444 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: here's my response to the people that laughed. You lose 445 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: to get silver, you win to get bronze. The Fins 446 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: are a country of seven and a half to eight 447 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: million people, depending on which did is in the census. 448 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: It's not a very large country and so prevent that 449 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: you can be able to compete against in the day, 450 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: Russia against czech against Slovakia against you know, the United States, 451 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: Canada and Sweden. They will always the underdog because they 452 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: didn't have the population base. But they take so much 453 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: pride in playing to those kinds of medals because it's 454 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: almost like their goal. I think the Finns have a 455 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: legitimate chance to be the bronze medal ringing team. 456 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: My sleeper to maybe get to the bronze medal game, 457 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: which is a different thing, might be the Czechs and 458 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: they open against Canada. 459 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: I think that game will tell the tale for both teams. 460 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: It will pass and that's going to have to be 461 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: really good in terms of manufacturing offense. That's going to 462 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 3: be one of the potential knocks on their team. And 463 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: you know that Canada will do. They will get their 464 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: town to flesh off of David Posmac. They will mean 465 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: on him. They will pulverizing Sam Ben players like that, 466 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: Tommy Wilson against people in Pittsburgh. No, they'll go right 467 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: after him and they will try to take care of 468 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: him early. So that's kind of what you look or. 469 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: It's not going to be easy for the Techs. I 470 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: don't know how much offense are going to be able 471 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 3: to manufacture, but they aren't. Historically they played extremely well. 472 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: I don't think they had the goal pending like they 473 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 3: had the Domino cash that was there and they had 474 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: so much success in nineteen ninety. 475 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: Eight, Pierre, eight out of twelve make the playoff run 476 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: is there are almost too much wiggle room in the 477 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: in the preliminary games. 478 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: Now, the NFL has to do that to keep everybody relevant, 479 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: and so does the IOC. So I understand why they 480 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 3: do that. They don't want to have a major embarrassment 481 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: where somebody gets knocked out even before the preliminary rounds, 482 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: whether Decanner in the US. They don't want to see 483 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: the gates block. So I'll give you a case in point. 484 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: Mark in Vancouver, the most successful international hockey tournament ever, 485 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: and it was they were They pulled one hundred the 486 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: IOC and the host committee pulled one hundred and fifty 487 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: million dollars out of the building in Vancouver from hockey. 488 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty million dollars. Or the United States 489 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: had lost early on, There's no way they would pull 490 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: them that kind of money out of there. And that's 491 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 3: why they keep everybody relevant right to the end. 492 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: Pierre, I root for Canada even though I'm American because 493 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: I like Sydney Crosby. 494 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Does that make me a bad American? 495 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: Not at all, not at all. You know, unfortunate I 496 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: was born in the United States, but I grew up 497 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: in Canada. I had two passports, so I can pick 498 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: you side. But I will tell you this is that 499 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: Sydney near the end now in terms of international play, 500 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: and I just want great things for him. I want 501 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: the tournament to be awesome. I want the two best 502 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: teams to play in the gold medal game and for 503 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 3: us to have a real big launch moment. You know, Mark, 504 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: one of the great treats of my life is being 505 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: able to do the gold medal game in Canada in 506 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: twenty ten. This will be my eighth Olympics that I work, 507 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: six of them in the winter and two in the summer, London, 508 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: the Barcelona in the summer. And one of the things 509 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: I can tell you about twenty ten, there were thirty 510 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: three million Canadians that lived in the country at that time. 511 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: It's the most watched television event in Canadian history. Twenty 512 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: six million people of thirty three million watch that game 513 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: on our network in Canada. 514 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: Well, how many are gonna watch this year, Pierre, because 515 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: not just in Canada, but in North America, because the 516 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: times are early, because of the time difference with Italy, 517 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: and and you know, it's just a lot of off hours. 518 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: The hardcorees are gonna watch it, but I wonder about 519 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: the mass viewership, except of course for the medal games. 520 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: Well, the gold medal games at eight ten start am 521 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: Eastern time. I don't think that that's that big a deal. 522 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but that's that's Sunday. That's okay on Sunday. 523 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. So that's 524 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: the gold medal game, and that's the one you worry 525 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 3: about the most. But I understand your point. Mostly viewing 526 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: that I'm seeing is either at three ten in the afternoon. 527 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: And the reason I know this is because I've got 528 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 5: to do hits for NBC Sports from my home own 529 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 5: office here. But you know, there's gonna be the ten 530 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 5: forty games, there's gonna be eight ten games, and there's 531 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 5: gonna be three ten games in the afternoon. So I 532 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 5: don't think that's that bad. Actually, I think people would 533 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 5: rather watch it in the daytime. They'll watch it at night, 534 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 5: late at night, So I don't I don't have that 535 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 5: big a problem with it. I think we played you 536 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: have to look it up, mark, if I remember correctly. 537 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 5: I think we played the gold medal game Canada US 538 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 5: in twenty ten. I think that was at one o'clock start, 539 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 5: that's correct. I think it was a one o'clock start, 540 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: so at one o'clock in Vancouver. Yeah, yeah, that's what 541 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: I think it was, if I remember correctly. 542 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: Why is it that after the Olympics the NHL TV 543 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: ratings go back to where they were. They don't really increase. 544 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: They they don't decrease, but they don't increase. Why do 545 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: people seem to look at Olympic clocky as a standalone. 546 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 5: Just because they're proud of their country. I think more 547 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 5: than anything else, I just it's an amazing event, it 548 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 5: really is. I I'm just so grateful to have had 549 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 5: opportunity to do so many Olympics. And you know, as 550 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: a little kid growing up, there a thing called the 551 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 5: Summit Series between Canada and the United Canada and oh, 552 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 5: I remember, I know yesterday, I know you did, I 553 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 5: knew you would, and that was so huge. And I 554 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 5: was in grade three at the time, and I had 555 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 5: a teacher named Missus Parsons, Alice Parsons, and Missus Parsons 556 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 5: actually brought in a black and white TV with with 557 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 5: bunny ears and put it in our classroom. And let 558 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: us watch it and it. What I'll always remember is 559 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: missus Parsons grabbed me after one because she saw how 560 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 5: I was just grabbing hold of watching it, and she said, Pierrett, 561 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: You're you're probably gonna make your living in sports, so 562 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 5: just enjoy this. I did this because I really want 563 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 5: you to use this as an educational vehicle. I blew 564 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 5: me away. I would always remember it. And I grew 565 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: up in a town where she might have lived two 566 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: blocks away from me. And when I was older and 567 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: had some success in my career, she sent me the 568 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 5: most beautiful handwritten note and what she saw in me 569 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: when I was in grade three and why she had 570 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 5: told me that, and it blew me away. I still 571 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 5: have the note, so I that's my grasp of international hockey. 572 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: I will always remember that and cherish that moment because 573 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: of missus Parsons and what she taught me. 574 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: That's a great story. Pire. 575 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 576 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: You you pick the US and Canadon in the final. 577 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: I think you're probably right. For some reason, I see 578 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: Sweden as a possibility to get there despite their injuries, 579 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: but I just can't. I would never you know, my my, my, 580 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: my respect for Sid and having known him for years aside, 581 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: I can't bet against him in international hockey. There's something 582 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: about him in this environment that takes one of the 583 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: greatest players ever and somehow makes him even greater. 584 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: The golden goal, as called by my broadcast partner that 585 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 5: day in Canada, Chris Cuppert, when Sidney Crosby was yelling iggy, iggy, iggy, 586 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 5: I was right there and I'm telling you it was loud, 587 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 5: and it was boisterous, and it was crazily frenetic in 588 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: the building in Vancouver. And then sid scores off the 589 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: again the feed past Ryan Miller and what I remember, 590 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 5: it's like something went off in the building. Mark. The 591 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: floor was shaking where I was doing my broadcasting from 592 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 5: between the benches and you could see the glass was vibrating. 593 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: It was I've never heard anything that loud. And you know, Mark, 594 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 5: I guess coaching Stanley Cup finals and broadcast I think 595 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 5: seventeen Stanley Cup finals. It was unbelievable. It's six six 596 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 5: gold medal games in the Olympics for hockey, and you 597 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 5: know women's hockey as well, so lots of different experiences. 598 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 5: I've never heard anything that loud. Is when Sidney Crosby 599 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 5: scored in Vancouver. 600 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: Before we wrap here. I don't know if you've seen 601 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: the Netflix documentary about the night. Yeah, it wasn't it 602 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: great to see all those guys all these years later 603 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: reliving that and falling into the same old camaraderie. And 604 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: I maintained that's the biggest moment in sports history. Like 605 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: when Mark Cuban, who's a bit of adult, said that 606 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: Indiana winning the NCAA football championship was comparable. I'm like, 607 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: no way that the Indiana team would have had to 608 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: beat the Steelers of the seventies for it to be comparable. 609 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: Oh, you're so spot on. Good for you. Good for 610 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: you for saying that, because I completely agree. Here's what 611 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 5: I'll tell you. And I'd like to tell too many 612 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 5: people this, but I'm going to share it with our audience. 613 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 5: I had a chance to watch it over the weekend 614 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: and I called Ralph Cox. Ralph Cox was the last 615 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 5: player cut by Team USA, and I have no problem 616 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 5: sharing this story because it was pretty emotional. And I 617 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 5: called Ralph to tell him how great I thought he 618 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 5: came across and how beautiful I thought. The entire documentary was. 619 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: Great job by the filmmakers and obviously the researchers and 620 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 5: all the players that were gathering in Lake Placid. And 621 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: I said to Ralph, I got to ask you, like 622 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 5: I knew Herbie really well and I had coached against Turby, 623 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 5: and I said, what was he like when you like 624 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 5: went in the room to see him, and he goes pair. 625 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 5: I kind of had to talk him off the ledge. 626 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 5: He was emotional, he was crying, and at the end 627 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 5: of it, then about twenty minutes together, at the end 628 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 5: of it, I told him, Herb, when this is over, 629 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 5: you're gonna be okay. I'm gonna be okay, and I 630 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 5: think you got a really good team, and I think 631 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 5: you're gonna win. And Ralph lives in Raleigh, North Carolina 632 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 5: right now. But I thought that his presentation showed you 633 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 5: how much that tournament meant to everybody in hockey, but 634 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 5: in particular American born players. Ralph has never said a 635 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 5: negative word. I used to work with him, and by 636 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 5: the way, Mark, there's a Pittsburgh Penguin die in. He 637 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 5: used to be a scout for the Pittsburgh Penguins in 638 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 5: the Massachusetts area back in the day. The way he 639 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 5: handled that was unbelievable, and I want to give a 640 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 5: shameless plug my new podcast. It starts at One Team Medium, Pittsburgh. 641 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: It's called Inside the Game with Peer maguire. Our first 642 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: guest is Mike h Ruzioni. We put it in the 643 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 5: can yesterday and Mike with Mark I can tell you 644 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 5: right now it was an amazingly emotional discussion about leadership 645 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 5: relationships on a team, and more than anything else, great 646 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 5: Herb Brooks and the relationship that Mike had with her. 647 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 5: It's really fantastic. I was really proud to be part 648 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 5: of that. 649 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: That sounds like great stuff. Pierre can't wait to listen 650 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: to it. Pierre, great input. As always, we'll do it 651 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: again next week. 652 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: You are the man. Thank you so much, sir. Take 653 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 3: care of everybody and enjoy the game tonight. 654 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: That's the great Pierre McGuire brought to list. But always 655 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 2: say flagging and traffic control.