1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Mike homegrin Chris collins Worth yesterday. Check this out. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Chris is one of the great analysts and announcers in 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: the game. And I go back to my first my 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: first crack at broadcasting. Wow, we did a Super Bowl. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Chris was there, of course, doing the Super Bowl, and 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: I was a newbie, okay, and I sat next to 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: him and we did the Super Bowl in Tampa. Chris, 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: you remember that game? And then uh and then to 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: his credit, and I don't hold this against him, but 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: he said, Mike, you know you're doing a good job, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: but I think you should stick with coach. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: I promise you. I did not say it. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: I love it. 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: Hey listen, great to have you on and nice, nice 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: talking with you. How is are you surprised at all 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: that these are the two teams in the Super Bowl? 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: You've done a bunch of broadcasting all season long? Did 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: this surprise you at all? 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: It did? 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: But I will say about whenever. It was about mid season, 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 4: maybe a little. 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: Bit after that. 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 4: We had Seattle in Washington, and when I was doing 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: the tape that I always put together tapes to preview 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: the two teams, and I came in our meetings afterwards 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: and I said, I think Seattle's going to go to 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: the super Bowl, And everybody went berserk. Everybody's like, get 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: what are you talking? 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: You know, one of those kinds of things, And I said, no, 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: I go this defense has something going on. I mean, 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: they really do. 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: And even today as I'm studying getting ready for the game, 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: you can feel the intensity of that defense. 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: You can just feel it on every snap. 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: And I was trying to think if I were on 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: the other side of the ball, what would I try 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: to do to slow that. 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: Down a little bit? And maybe, you know, you. 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 4: Go some hurry up, Maybe you try and not let 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: them substitute in and out because in some ways maybe 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: you've got to go reverses or something to slow down 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: the pursuit to the ball. But that is a hungry defense. 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's how they coach. I 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: don't know if it's you know, the guys themselves, but 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: I mean, it's really a privilege to watch them play. 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: It really is. 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: I've seen a few over the years that play with 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: that kind of intensity, but it's pretty special stuff to watch. 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: You know. 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: The defense in twenty thirteen has talked about a lot 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: in this city. Some people comparing the defense now to 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: that defense with Sherman and those guys. Is there a 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: comparison or do you think this is a unique group. 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel the same to me. 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: I can't even I don't know that I can really 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: explain why. But it feels like a group that is 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: sort of taken a blood oath together, you know. Or 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: they're like, look, if you are not on the screen 59 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: when that ball is when we tackle that guy, then 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: you know we're throwing you out of the club. We're 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: finding you fifty bucks. We're doing something. The passion with 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: which they run to the ball and make plays, And Mike, 63 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 4: I think the other thing that it does is when 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: you do that, it allows you to really poke at 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: the ball and try to strip it out because you 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: know that if you miss, somebody else is going to 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: be there and mate the tackle. 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: And they remind me a little bit, Mike. 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: Of the San Francisco defenses, you know, when like they're 70 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: okay missing tackles. Which is a weird thing to say, 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: but I think that that this bunch is so confident 72 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: in the pursuit that is going to be at the 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: ball that the first guy can take a shot and 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: really try to blow it up or try to strip 75 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: the ball and not worry about that person escaping and 76 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: you know, making a big run because the cavalry is coming. 77 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: It's really a tribute I you know, to the to 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: the to the. 79 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: Aiden Dirty, to you know, Mike McDonald, to you know, 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: John Schneider, whoever it is that put this team together, 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: that they play with that. 82 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: Kind of passion. 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: And the guy that I thought, there's a couple of 84 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: guys that stuck out to me on the film. One, 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: Nick Evan Worry, I thought played one of the best 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: games I've seen the defensive back play all season. 87 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: He's everywhere. He just it was spectacular. 88 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: And when he had to be in man coverage against 89 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: slot receivers, and you're talking about a guy that can 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: play the edge, he can, he can set the edge 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: on the corner, he can be disruptive in the run game. 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: He can then go against your slot who probably is 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: you know, five ten and one hundred and seventy five 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: pounds and lightning quick and hold his own against that person. 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: I think he's really filled the gap. 96 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: And the other one that since the last time I 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: saw them drag Thomas and I don't know how he is. 98 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: I know he hurt his shoulder or something, but man, 99 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: he was making some plays and and the more I 100 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: watch sort of the entirety of that bunch, I feel 101 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 4: pretty good about him. 102 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I couldn't agree with you more the 103 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: as I watched them all season long. They're front four. 104 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: They don't need a bunch of guys to help them 105 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: rush the pass. No, they got four guys. But to 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: your point, Chris, their secondary You've watched a lot of 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 2: games where secondary guys are diving for knees and things 108 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: like that. These guys come in and ready to tackle somebody, 109 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: and I think that really helps the defense and they're aggressive. 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: You're right. 111 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: Listen, hey, Sam Donald, you know what he came and 112 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: he's done a marvelous shop in my opinion. But my 113 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: opinion does it is not universal in this city. You know, 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: everyone's saying, well, he lost those games. He threw four 115 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: interceptions against the Rams. He hasn't won the big one yet. 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: I go, how many games you gotta win? 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 5: What do you? 118 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: What do you when you see Sam Donald? What do 119 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: you what's your takeaway? 120 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, when you play quarterback, it doesn't matter, right, 121 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: They'll say you know, he doesn't win the big game, 122 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: so he win. 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: He just won the biggest game of his career and 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: was brilliant. 125 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: Right, Well, he hasn't won the Super Bowl yet, and 126 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: guess what if he wins the Super Bowl. 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: Well, the really great. 128 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: Ones they they've won multiple super bowl It's the nature 129 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: of the beast. It's the same thing with head coaches, right, 130 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 4: it's the same thing. But when he's comfortable, and you know, 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: I know Kenneth Walker split a lot of time and 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: with Zach Sharbona, but Kenneth Walker made some plays in 133 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: that game that were really special. 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: I mean making people miss. 135 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: And I know he's not the receiver that Sharvion A is, 136 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: but when you get that young man in space, the 137 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: you know, the one we all talk about was the one. 138 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: You know, he had the linebacker lined up and made. 139 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: Him completely miss. 140 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: But some of those catches that he made in the 141 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: flat and then made four people miss to pick up 142 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: a first down, those are game changing plays in the 143 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. If he can do that kind of stuff 144 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: in the passing game and take a little pressure off 145 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: of Cup and JSN and you know, all those all 146 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: those different guys that they have. 147 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: That could be something really significant in this game. 148 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: I like, if I were the head coach or the 149 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, Clint or whatever. 150 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: And I saw some of those open field runs. 151 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: I would be like, all right, whether it's a screen, 152 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: whether it's a checkdown, whether it's a drawl, I just 153 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: want to get this guy the ball where there's a 154 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: little space on either side of him. 155 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: And I really think he could be the unsung hero 156 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: this time. 157 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: Well, we are privileged to have Chris Collinsworth on the 158 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: show with us today. He's going to be doing the 159 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: broadcast of the Super Bowl. And as I said, we're 160 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: still good friends. Even though he told me to stay 161 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: with coaching, get out of the you know, but listen, hey, 162 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: you like I know you liked DK metcalf, I mean 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: we all did. And then when the Seahawks traded him, 164 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: I well, I will admit, I'm going, okay, now, who's 165 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: going to fill the gap here? Then you have JSN 166 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: two different you look at put him standing next to 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: each other, two different, two different guys. What do you 168 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: see from that young man? 169 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: But he's a glider, you know, That's that's what I see. 170 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: It's just and Mike, you know, one of the other 171 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: things that I'd say is, uh, we've seen guys Justin Jefferson, 172 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup, JSN, guys that were known as slot players. 173 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: Right Justin Jefferson, I didn't even know he could play outside. 174 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: I studied him hard coming out of the draft. 175 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: He was a slot guy. He was like Keenan Allen. 176 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: He kind of came off the ball about three quarters 177 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: speed and make the little move and I'm like, okay, 178 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 4: there's a role for that, and he's a good player. 179 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: I never saw Justin Jefferson being what he is as 180 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: an outside receiver. 181 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: And I think maybe that those guys, if. 182 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: You learn the game inside out, right, if you learn 183 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: the game from the slot position, and you understand blocking 184 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: and hot reads and when your quarterback's in a hurry 185 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: and when he's going to have a little bit of 186 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: extra time and when you might have time to make 187 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: a little extra move on somebody, and you translate that 188 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: to the outside, all of a sudden, you've got this 189 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: slot mentality and the wiggles and the moves and like 190 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: like he just I don't know how to do it 191 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: like this, like a championship snow skier or something, you know, 192 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: going down and going in and out of the flags 193 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: and just and just like gliding. And when when he 194 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: does that, he gets deep and they're you know, everybody's 195 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: playing this too. 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: Deep stuff now. 197 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: And and he gets down the field and now he's 198 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: running those those multiple move gliding routes against safeties instead 199 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: of corners. 200 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: The rams couldn't stay with him. I mean, Cam Curl 201 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: had no chance on some of those plays. 202 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: And then the other thing that I appreciate about him 203 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: as incredibly humble, faithful kind of guy, which is cool, 204 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: but he really competes at the ball. You know, he 205 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: went up for that is a huge play. The forty 206 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: yard post that he that he caught, you know, right 207 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 4: before the half. And to go up and make that 208 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 4: catch and know you're going to take the shot right, No, 209 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: you're going to take that hit. 210 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: He's not that big a guy. 211 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: And to go up and make him play like that 212 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: in that kind of moment, he's you know, he's been 213 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 4: doing it all year now. 214 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a surprise, but it's you know, it's. 215 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 4: A rare guy that can do inside, outside, deep and 216 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 4: be willing to take those kind of hits. 217 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: That's when he did the big stars. 218 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a special young man. I will tell 219 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: you that. And I like the fact you've talked about 220 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: his humility. Is he's he really is. He comes off 221 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: as being really a good guy that way. Now we 222 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: have this, we have the game, and you have two teams, 223 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: and it seems the talk, of course, I guess you 224 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: could say it's Seattle talk that is not even going 225 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: to be close, that one team such has such an advantage. 226 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: Do you see an advantage over the other each other 227 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: at all on either side of the ball, or do 228 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: you think it's gonna be kind of even or is 229 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: the underdog really the underdog? 230 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I told you before I picked Seattle for 231 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: a while back, So that's that was the team that 232 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 4: I thought coming into about halfway through the season. 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: I obviously think there's some advantages. 234 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: That go the other way too. This is a team 235 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: that has a good secondary, they really do. They're gonna 236 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: be able to match up a little bit. I'm anxious 237 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 4: to see who they're going to match or play against whom. 238 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: But Christian Gonzalez can play with anybody. This Marcus Jones 239 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: not only is he a tremendous maybe the best in 240 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: the league, kick returner, he's a very good slot. Small 241 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: could stay with Jasn. You know, he can hang with 242 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup. He can handle that. But the guy who's 243 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: probably been playing even better, at least that I've seen, 244 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 4: is Ben Carlton Davis on the other side. So they 245 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: can do what a lot of teams cannot do against Seattle, 246 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: and that's matchup I think fairly fairly well on the outside. 247 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: And then the other one that I think could kind 248 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: of level the playing field a little bit are Christian 249 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: Barmore and Corey Durden and Milton Williams, the inside guys 250 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: for the Patriots. 251 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: They are legit. 252 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: Milton Williams is not the biggest guy in the world, 253 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: but when he gets his little wiggle going, I think 254 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 4: there's a case to be made that maybe he even 255 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: plays too much because he can get. 256 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: Worn down a little bit. He can get a little 257 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: bit tired. 258 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: But man, if he just played on pass rush downs 259 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: and got inside against guards and centers. 260 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: He's a lot to deal with it. The other guy that. 261 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: Kind of stuck out to me for them is this 262 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: Christian Ellis, and uh. 263 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: He's their second leading tackler. Don't know what splain status 264 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: is going to be. 265 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 4: But uh, Christian Ellis is really a speedy linebacker. 266 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 6: Uh. 267 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: And he can he can make plays either as a 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: spy or he can make plays blitzing. 269 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: UH. And they do a lot of different things, you know. 270 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: They they'll stack those two inside linebackers, you know, right 271 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: over the center and make you make decisions. And if 272 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: he pops man, Ellis is on your quarterback so fast, 273 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: and of course you're you're still concerned about Sam. I 274 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: you know that if he if they could get that 275 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: kind of interior pressure, and I think that's where the 276 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: pressure will come. I feel pretty good about Seattle's two tackles, 277 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: but I do think that if you know, with with 278 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: the players that they've got inside, the speed they have 279 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: with Ellis at the linebacker position, that the protection is 280 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: going to have to come from inside out. 281 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 282 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: You know, the they've played games lately, particular the RAM games, 283 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: they're kind of shootouts. Guys are throwing for three hundred 284 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: and fifty yards and thirty to twenty seven. You know, 285 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: everyone's scoring points. I don't see the Super Bowl that way. 286 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: I see it a little bit more. I don't know, 287 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: a little bit lower scoring. 288 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: In my opinion, I agree with you and I think 289 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: The concern for the Patriots is that, you know, and 290 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: we know the stat that they really didn't play in 291 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: many top defenses in the league during the course of 292 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: the season, but they got in the playoffs and they 293 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: went bang bang bang. You know, they went to the Chargers, 294 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: they went to the Texans, and then of course last 295 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: week against Denver, and those are three of the best defenses. 296 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: And now they may be facing the best defense in 297 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: all of football. But Drake may has had a chance 298 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: to warm up to the task, right, So he's been 299 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: in the awful weather, he's been in a situation where 300 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: they couldn't get the edge blockers, edge rushers blocked on 301 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: the outside. They made adjustments to help Will Campbell, who's 302 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: their left tackle, to. 303 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: Help Jared Wilson, both of those. 304 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: Rookie offensive linemen on the on the left hand side. 305 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: You know, they brought Hunter Henry over and chipped off 306 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: all day, and they were much better. 307 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: In the game against Denver. 308 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: So they they've played, they've grown up, you know. So 309 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: I'm in the process of going back and trying to 310 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: watch every game that they played, but you can see 311 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: what I've seen, you know, at the end of the 312 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: year versus what we saw early in the year. This 313 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: is a team that's growing up and they're like Seattle, 314 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: they have a boss. 315 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 7: You know. 316 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: New England started out one and two. I mean that's it. 317 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: They have one loss. 318 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: Two losses something like that. After that, the whole game, 319 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: the whole season. So it's a proud bunch. Mike Brabel 320 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: is a tough son of a gun. They are passionate 321 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: about the way they play, They're passionate for each other. 322 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: They're completely unselfish. You saw the offense basically just turned 323 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: the game over to the defense in Denver and go, look, guys, 324 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: you know, go win it. We're not we are not 325 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: turning it over. I'm throwing this ball out of bounds. 326 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: I'm running it every down the fourth quarter. And they 327 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: did it. So it's a as confident as Seattle is 328 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: on defense right now, the Patriots are that confident as well. 329 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. I think you know 331 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: you you've been in Super Bowls and you've covered Super 332 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: Bowls and the just the atmosphere. It's the biggest stage 333 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: and in football, and it's different. It is different. If 334 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: you're coaching the you got two weeks to you've got 335 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: other things going on. There are not many young quarterbacks 336 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: that get to be starters in the Super Bowl, you know, 337 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: And in fact, I can't even think of too many, 338 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: going back to maybe Dan Marino, but you mentioned Drake 339 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: Maine now, just watching him conduct himself, I haven't seen 340 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: as many games as you have, and I don't study 341 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: it like you do, but he's an impressive young guy. 342 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: But he is a young guy. Do you think you'll 343 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: be able to handle this well this week? 344 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody knows how anybody is going to 345 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: handle it until you get in the Super Bowl, right, 346 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 4: I mean, when you walk out on that field. I 347 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 4: still remember being out there and lining. 348 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: Up for the national anthem. 349 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 4: And down our sideline came Diana Ross. And that was 350 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: when Diana Ross was Diana Ross, you know what I mean, 351 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 4: and beautiful lady, and she walked in front of our 352 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: entire team, and I know, for at least the next 353 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: four minutes of that game, we were not focused on football. 354 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: Wow, we came out and. 355 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 4: We lost the first half by twenty to nothing. And 356 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: I still blame Diana Ross. I think if she'da warded 357 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: down San Francisco's sideline. 358 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: We'd end up winning that game. It's just my opinion, 359 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: but that's where I'm going. 360 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: So it sounds Chris, Chris, it's softy back here, and 361 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: Mike would never say this, so I will. It sounds 362 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: like the key for the Hawks maybe to bring Sidney 363 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: Sweetey down to the sideline before the game and get 364 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots maybe a little bit distracted for this one. 365 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: Uh But Chris, I'm just curious your take on this. 366 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: And Mike would never say this about himself because he's 367 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: a humble guy, so I'll say it for him. The fact, Chris, 368 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: that I'm sitting next to Mike Homgrin here at this 369 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: bar in Bellevue and this guy's not in the Hall 370 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: of Fame yet is an absolute joke. And it's been 371 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: a joke for a long time. And now we have 372 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: this controversy with Bill Belichick. Writers are revealing their votes 373 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, putting statements out. It's unlike anything we've 374 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: ever seen from the Hall of Right. So what's your reaction. 375 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: What was your take to not just the story leaking, 376 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: but also Bill not making the Hall of Fame in 377 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: your one? 378 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think my first thought was, why do we 379 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 4: have a Hall of fame, right, I mean, And the 380 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: hard part is that I think that the people who 381 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 4: lived it, who's been around it their whole life, who 382 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: played it, who coached it, they. 383 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: Know, I mean, anything Mike or Bill. 384 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: Belichick needs somebody to tell them they're Hall of Fame coach. 385 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: You know. I don't. 386 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: Maybe, I'm sure it's nice, and I wouldn't begrudge that 387 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: of anybody, But I mean, we know everybody, everybody who 388 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 4: was inside out. 389 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: On the game. 390 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 4: They know who were the innovators who created the stuff 391 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 4: that nobody could figure out, who once they did figure 392 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: it out, they changed to something else. 393 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: That they couldn't figure out. So it's I don't know. 394 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: I try not to get too worked up about it 395 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: because then somebody will ask me this question and I'll 396 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: say something stupid and. 397 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: I'll end up in the headlines. 398 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 4: And I would really like to avoid that at least 399 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: for a little while till Sunday anyway, But it is, 400 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: it's a it's a silly process. 401 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna stop there, gotcha. 402 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: Well, Hey, listen, this is this is fun for me 403 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 2: because I enjoy watching you on TV and we do 404 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: have some good memories together. So I just thank Chris 405 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: Collinsworth are coming on the show and have a great 406 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: game on Sunday, and uh, really you're you're the best man. 407 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: You're the best. 408 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: Bave, Derick, Mike, everybody, thank you very much. It was 409 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: a great talking to you guys as always. 410 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth man, great stuff out of him and 411 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: Mike home Grin yesterday on the radio show. 412 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 6: Does not get better than that. 413 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: He's calling the game on Sunday for Mike with Mike 414 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: Turrico for NBC, and he was on the call with 415 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: NBC without Michaels during forty nine in Glendale. So hopefully 416 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: we'll have a little bit of a different ending after 417 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks this time around. It's my favorite crew, yeah, 418 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: no question, outs Ik awesome. They are the best man, 419 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: no doubt. All Right, we're gonna break a little fun 420 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: with Audio and then Greg Gigagabel is here for his 421 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: twelfth Man show at seven o'clock. You're gonna visit at 422 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: six forty five with us on ninety three three KJARFM. 423 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 8: It's now time for Someday in Digg's Fun with Audio, 424 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 8: Jimmy g pawn. 425 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 6: Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio. 426 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: We gotta get a little excited for this show to end, 427 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: by the way, never looking forward to a show. 428 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 6: Ending more than this one. 429 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: You know why because the next time we go on 430 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: the year, it'll be game week for Super Bowl sixty. 431 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: Right from San Francisco, CALLI four and I A on 432 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: Monday at six am with Chuck and Buck. All right, 433 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Greg Bell is gonna be here pop in six forty 434 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: five talking about what he's got planned at seven o'clock tonight. 435 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: Big news with the Seahawks sales story that came out today. 436 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: We'll explain that coming up to next segment. Right now, 437 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: little on with audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, 438 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: did you happen to hear that? What's the different? 439 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 6: What's that? 440 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: Dick? 441 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan joining Jason and Travis Kelsey his new Heights podcast. 442 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: That's weak as the guy's talked about how they're all 443 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: rooting for Sam Donald because of his difficult journey. 444 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm happy for Sam Donald. Oh yeah, so happy for that. Dude. 445 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: Man I played in New York. 446 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: It's hard man, he comes here. 447 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 5: The third overall pick doesn't go well, goes to the Jets, 448 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 5: gets beat down mentally physically, and then five teams in 449 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 5: eight years and everyone thinks he's washed. And then he 450 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 5: goes to Minnesota, plays well last year, but then they 451 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: get beat battling, they get beaten the playoffs, and they're like, 452 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 5: he's done. 453 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: This guy can't play wat Seattle pay him all this money. Well, 454 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: now you see why. 455 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 6: You're always rooted for the guys that have been down out. 456 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 5: That's the thing, his ability to take that heat from 457 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 5: everybody and still be the calm, cool, collected cant that 458 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 5: he is. 459 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: I've always been a big fan of his. Man. 460 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's very nice for those guys to say that 461 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: the average starting quarterback is making about what Sam Donald's making, 462 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: by the way, right, thirty five million dollars a year, 463 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. It's like guys, teach your kids to 464 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: throw football, they'll be ga jillionaires. But it's one of 465 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: the reasons why the Hawks are where they're at right 466 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: now because of his salary. But look, man, the last 467 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: two games, the guy has been unbelievable. Like we said yesterday, 468 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: they don't win those last two Rams games, Dick without him. 469 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 6: You're exactly right. 470 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 7: I don't think this Super Bowl necessarily because of the 471 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 7: defense they're facing is gonna have You're gonna have to 472 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 7: put a lot of load on Sam Donald's shoulders. But 473 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 7: it can't be the game plan that we saw against 474 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 7: San Francisco. You're not gonna win this thing thirteen to 475 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 7: three by seventeen correctly. Hey Dick, did you happen to 476 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 7: hear that? 477 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 9: What's that? 478 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 3: Dick? 479 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 6: Today? 480 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: On a wake up barstool on Fox Sports won, the 481 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: crew full of Patriot fans shared their continued doubts in 482 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: Sam Donald despite his performance in the NFC Championship game. 483 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 10: If Sam Donald shows up, which he has been doing, 484 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 10: they're gonna have a lot better of a chance to 485 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 10: win this game. But you never know with him. I'm 486 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 10: still not sold. I'm still not sold on the old 487 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 10: Sammy de with you. 488 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 11: It's weird to say that with him going to the 489 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 11: super Bowl. 490 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 12: But I know sol putting together the I'm telling you, 491 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 12: I still think ultimate. Here goes OK, here's my problem, 492 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 12: DoD If Sam Donald doesn't play well in the super. 493 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 6: Bowl, he's still really good. I know, is awesome. God, 494 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 6: who's the guy? I'm so with you? 495 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: I can't believe that I'm with you. I mean that 496 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: is part of the deal. I'm glad those guys said 497 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: that that. Hey look man, I mean it's possible the 498 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: Patriots win this game and Sam Donald still plays pretty well. 499 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 7: Right, Oh, that's a great question. I think win this 500 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 7: game with Sam Donald playing. 501 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Drake May just beat Houston and the Chargers 502 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: in Denver. Albeit the Denver game was in the snow 503 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: and the Houston game was in the ring. 504 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 6: Yes, but C J. 505 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 7: Stroud gave the Patriots the ball four times. You're taking 506 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 7: that scenario out because you're saying Sam Donald plays well. 507 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question. 508 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: Did Sam Donald play well in the Buccaneers game they 509 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: lost thirty seven to thirty four. 510 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 9: Yes, So there you go. 511 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: That's one example of where Sam Donald played well. In 512 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: the Hawk's low watch. 513 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 11: Drake May just go off like twenty eight of thirty 514 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 11: two for four touchdowns and four hundred yards. 515 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford just did it. I know, I know, Drake 516 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: May is not not Matt Stafford a dick. To be honest. 517 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: If Sam Donald plays whatever we think is well. I 518 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: feel very good about the Hawks champions Increble winning this 519 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: football game. But I don't think it's It's ridiculous that 520 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: Sam Donald can go out there and have a pretty 521 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: good game and find himself on the wrong end of 522 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: this thing on side. 523 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 7: Has there been another game the one that you cited 524 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: we had four starters down on de rights? Well, has 525 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 7: there been another game where you would say Sam Donald 526 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 7: played well, right and we lost? 527 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 6: Well, they've only lost three games? Okay, I mean that's again, 528 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 6: I'm asking again. 529 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: I mean there's been games where they've he's played poorly 530 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: and they've won, right, Yeah, no doubt. 531 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 6: Has he played well and they lost. 532 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: There's only three examples of a loss. Two of them 533 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: he played well. One he played okay, second one he 534 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: was terrible. That's the Rams game when he threw four 535 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: picks in the third game he was twenty eight to 536 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: thirty four, were for three forty one and four touchdowns. 537 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 9: Did fumble at the end of the game. People people 538 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 9: blamed him for that. 539 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 11: I would just say this, how many times do we 540 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 11: come on the air and say, boy, if I had 541 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 11: told you XYZ's gonna happen and then ABC happened. 542 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 9: We say that so many times. 543 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: He had a game last year with the Vikings, he 544 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: was twenty two at twenty seven two fifty nine touchdown 545 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: pick they lost. Had a game with the Vikings, he 546 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: was eighteen to twenty five, two forty two touchdowns they 547 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: lost last year. He's only lost six games in two years. Like, 548 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: three of them he played okay and they lost, and 549 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: the other three he played portal and they lost. So 550 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: if we're just looking at the last six losses for 551 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, yes, three of them he played well and 552 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: they lost the game. But he's only lost six freaking 553 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: times in two years, the guy who's thirty and seven. 554 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 7: For God's sakes, I'm trying to imagine a scenario after 555 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 7: the game where we're doing the postgame show and I'm like, 556 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 7: you know, Sam really played well tonight, right, but we lost. 557 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 6: I have a hard time wrapping my arm around that. 558 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: Time, wrapping my arms around the Hawks, even being in 559 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: this damn game. When they fired Pete Carroll two years 560 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: ago and then went out and got Sam Darnold. Now 561 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: they're in the freaking Super Bowl. Dreams come true? 562 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 6: Boys. 563 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: All Right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? 564 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 6: What's that? Dick? 565 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: Bill Pollyan, former NFL executive and current Pro Football Hall 566 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: of Famer, went on Serious XMNFL radio Wednesday to read 567 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: a written statement combating a report that his efforts kept 568 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick from making the Hall of Fame in his 569 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: first year on the ballot. 570 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 9: I wrote this out. 571 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 13: So I'm reading from the statement I voted for Coach 572 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 13: Belichick in the Hall of Fame selection meeting. The Pro 573 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 13: Football Hall of Fame has confirmed that fact through the 574 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 13: auditors of the selection process. Again, I'll state that I 575 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 13: never said that I believe that Coach Belichick should quote 576 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 13: wait a year, a close quote for enshrinement. This has 577 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 13: been confirmed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame, numerous 578 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 13: selectors who were in the room, and my vote for 579 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 13: Coach Belichick. As a Hall of Fame member and selector, 580 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 13: I realized the import of what we do. I've always 581 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 13: tried as a selector to make these difficult choices with 582 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 13: the utmost but objectivity. I've said on Serious XM Radio 583 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 13: and numerous other media outlets that I believe Coach Belichick 584 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 13: to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. My vote 585 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 13: confirms that. 586 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so two things. I know a lot of people 587 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: have criticized him for reading a written statement. He's eighty 588 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: three years old, all right, So I don't want to 589 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: have a problem with that, nor do. All I want 590 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: is the truth. Did he vote for Bill Belichick? He 591 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: says yes, he's claiming the auditors confirm it that he 592 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: voted for Bill Belichick. 593 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 6: Here's the problem with this man. 594 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame just had a statement 595 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: two days ago where they literally said anybody who reveals 596 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: their vote could lose their spot on the committee. 597 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 6: He just revealed his vote, Like you said, he's eight three. 598 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 9: I don't think he cares. 599 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: He's got to be done, don't He's finished. So here's 600 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 6: the good news. 601 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: This one will eave to maybe a widespread change because 602 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: all these guys will be gone, all these voters that 603 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: are going on the internet and revealing their votes. If 604 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame has any spine, they 605 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: wouldhere to their own statement they put out two days ago, or. 606 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 7: The Pro Football Hall of Fame will do the right thing. 607 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 7: And that's what the Baseball Hall of Fame does and 608 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 7: not care whether you reveal your votes or not, right, 609 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 7: which is I think is what they should do. Yes, 610 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 7: I like the transparency. 611 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 6: In baseball, right. 612 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't like it when you don't find out who 613 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: the one jackass was that didn't vote for Griffy. That 614 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: kept them from being unanimous. But I think there's way 615 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: more transparency is they're not in cooperbsolutely and there isn't Canton. 616 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's get one more ad, Dick. Did you 617 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: happen to hear that? What's that? 618 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 6: Dick? 619 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Legendary broadcaster Al Michael has joined the Dan Lebattard Show 620 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: this week and delivered a diagnosis of what's wrong in 621 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: sports media these days. 622 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 10: What pisses you off the most about the way sports 623 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 10: media coverage has changed? 624 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 14: I think right now, Dan, a lot of it is 625 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 14: just how can I make noise? How can I be? 626 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 14: You know, how can I yell? How can I scream? 627 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 14: How can I get into an argument with people? And 628 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 14: you know, you see enough of these shows where to 629 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 14: me to sum it up? I guess basically, I always 630 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 14: say it's more heat than light, and sometimes it's old 631 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 14: heat and no light. And I think that's the one 632 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 14: thing that is so disturbing through the end of question, 633 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 14: with the with the the internet now and social media 634 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 14: or anti social media, it's like everybody hates everybody. 635 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I agree with them on the 636 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: yelling thing, you know that, But I also think there's 637 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: a happy medium, Like, you know, you don't have to scream, 638 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: but can you maybe raise it up a. 639 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 6: Couple of notches when we're on the broadcast. 640 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 7: I mean, do you think he's trying to defend himself 641 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 7: for being so quiet and monotone on these bronckets? 642 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, last player of the game, Darnald back to bash, 643 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: He's got a wide open Jackson Smith and Jig Bay 644 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: eighty yards touchdown. 645 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 6: The Seahawks have won the Super Bowl? 646 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 14: Right? 647 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 6: Can you meet me halfway? That's all I want? 648 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 7: Just he is, he's probably the goat, but yeah, I mean, 649 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 7: if you're going to be the goat, you got to 650 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 7: continue to have energy, if you're going to continue. 651 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 6: To do the games. 652 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's never been very boisterous right now, No, but 653 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: now he seems like he's getting worse. I think he's 654 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: doing that on purpose. He's like, you think I was boring, 655 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: then watch this, which doesn't do whatever the hell I 656 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: damn well want. I don't like the accommodation of him 657 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: in herb Street by the way, on Amazon, what do 658 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: you think I think Herbie is? College football bugs me? 659 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind. 660 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 11: I don't mind Herb Street at all, Okay, Michaels, I'm 661 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 11: getting used to it. At first, it was at first 662 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 11: it was weird having Herb Street on the Pro Game 663 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 11: Pro Games, but I'm kind of used to it now. 664 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: I wish Harlan would do more national TV like Super Bowls. 665 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: And I know he does radio obviously, right, and he's phenomenal. 666 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to see Kevin Harlan call the Super Bowl 667 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: for TV because he is. 668 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 6: Does TV. 669 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: He does CBS for the regular season for NFL Sundays, 670 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: you know that, and it is tournament and he does 671 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: NBA and Amazon. But when the playoffs start, he goes 672 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: exclusively radio. 673 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 11: So the Post Sands and Romo do the CBS Super Bowl, right, correct? 674 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 11: So Jim Nance called it quits for the for golf, 675 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 11: right right, the Masters? 676 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: So how not till like two thousand and eight? 677 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 6: Not forever? 678 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, he said deadline. 679 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 6: I wanted to That's I. 680 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 11: Was trying to, like, you know, pick and say, Okay, well, 681 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 11: if he's retiring from golf here, how he retires from 682 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 11: the NFL here and then Harlan can take over for 683 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 11: CBS here. 684 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: Jim Nance has not retired from the Masters, and plans 685 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: to continue as the lead broadcaster for CBS through two 686 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: thousand and thirty six. 687 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 11: What why would you even do that? 688 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: Correct, Pal's gonna join twelve Man Show at seven next 689 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: on ninety three to three kJ r FM. 690 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 8: Now back, just Sufi ended on your home for the 691 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 8: Twelfth Man. 692 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 6: To twelve Best Man in the World and. 693 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 8: The Super Bowl super Bowl brought to you by Seattle's 694 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 8: closest sports books, No Call Me Casino and Hotel on 695 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 8: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r FL. 696 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, this is segment I've been 697 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: waiting for. Really, we had Hugh Mallon on the show today. 698 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: We had John Canzano on the show today. We heard 699 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth with Mike Holmgrin on the show today. 700 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: Dick talked to Kenny Walker, Dick talked to Derek Hall, 701 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: we had fun with audio, we had some texts, and 702 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto was on the ear today. All of that 703 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: pales in comparison to our next guest, who is here 704 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: now getting ready for his big show. Tonight's the final 705 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,479 Speaker 1: local show of the week before Game Week starts next 706 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Monday at six am from San Francisco. 707 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 6: Greg Bell, how are you man. 708 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 9: Good guys, it's welcome. Good to see in person. Are 709 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 9: you sure gonna do this a Friday night thing? We're 710 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 9: doing night Friday night? And that's right. 711 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: Well you better be ready because next Friday night in 712 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: San Francisco, we're gonna part. 713 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 6: We're gonna get after a baby. 714 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: But how about this sale report that came out today 715 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: from Seth Whippersnapper and Brady Henderson that when the Super 716 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: Bowl is over, the Seahawks will be up for sale. 717 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: The estate is denying it, as if to say, no, 718 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. They are saying some point 719 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: the team will be sold, but they're not ready to 720 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: admit it's going to happen starting Monday. 721 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 9: What do you know, Well, I wouldn't go saying that. 722 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 9: The statement from Paul Allen Trust spokesperson spokesman was a denial. 723 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: He just said it's not true. No, he didn't say 724 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: that either. That's not that's not the text I got. 725 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 9: No, he said the team is not for sale, right 726 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 9: and forbade him by the letter of the law, but 727 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 9: by the by the by the definition of the word 728 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 9: is present not sale for today. 729 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 6: The team is not for sale tomorrow, Okay, so you're. 730 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: Saying that it might be for sale nine days but 731 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: not for. 732 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 9: Sec And that's exactly what I took out of that, 733 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 9: because not only did ESPN, here's what happened. So that's 734 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 9: let's go for the context seth Wickersham wrote the book 735 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 9: on Bill Belichick and Robert Craft's Patriots. I'm sure you 736 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 9: talked about this, Oh, yeah, for sure. So he has 737 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 9: channels into the Patriots and around the league ownership circles. 738 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 9: This has been going on for months that the Seahawks 739 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 9: was going to come down eventually. What they've been waiting 740 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 9: on is the Blazer sale. And the Blazer sale is 741 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 9: now almost done, a couple months from being done, but 742 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 9: they have a buyer and a group for four point 743 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 9: twenty five billion dollars. The owner of the Carolina Panthers 744 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 9: and the NFL has been waiting on the valuation of 745 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 9: that sale and the estate has been waiting on the 746 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 9: settlement of that sale. Meanwhile, the league and the NFL 747 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 9: owners have been getting win that the next sale is 748 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 9: going to probably be the Seahawks. The Wall Street Journal 749 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 9: was going to come out with the report when the 750 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 9: ESPN guys got word of it, and when Seth Wickersham 751 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 9: got got a tip that the Wall Street Journal was 752 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 9: about to break the story. He got his Patriots people 753 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 9: and I, I wasn't told this, but we can put 754 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 9: the dots together. He got his Patriots channels fired up 755 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 9: and they break the story. When I wrote the statement, 756 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 9: I could go back on my show here in about 757 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 9: fifteen minutes with Jackson. I'm going to go into the 758 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 9: backstore and how this came about today because I got 759 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 9: a call for New York from a business reporter from 760 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 9: some outlet i'll remain nameless, asking me about the ownership 761 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 9: issue and saying I should look into something. And I 762 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 9: tried to and was told the same thing I got 763 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 9: in my statement. The team is not for sale. Nothing 764 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 9: has changed. That does not mean it won't change after 765 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 9: the season, and the Seahawks and the ownership group in 766 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 9: the estate don't want anything to be distraction between now 767 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 9: and then. So that's where it stands for me. I 768 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 9: actually had to call my editors and say, no, this 769 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 9: statement does because they put a headline on it that 770 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 9: said the statement was refuting or denying. No, they aren't. 771 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 9: The statement is just saying that the status quo is 772 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 9: status quo. And that today to see the team is 773 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 9: not for sale, but I have every reason to believe 774 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 9: it will be after this. 775 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 6: Okay, that's fair. Why was this released this one? 776 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 7: Well, that just to get clicks because it's Super Bowl 777 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 7: and the Seahawks are on the spotlight for everybody. 778 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 9: Well that's yes, But that's here's the interesting thing about 779 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 9: what's the tangible effect of the timing of this. The players, 780 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 9: the coaches don't care. The players contracts will the new 781 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 9: owner will take the contracts as they are, and the 782 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 9: players don't change one bit. The coaching staff, i'm sure 783 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 9: will be assured. General manager John Schneider, I'm sure will 784 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 9: be assured that they will keep their especially coming off 785 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 9: of a Super Bowl season. Of course, no owner coming 786 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 9: in with no experience and owning an NFL team is 787 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 9: going to clean house on the GM and the coach 788 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 9: that just went to the Super Bowl. So the tangible 789 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 9: actual effect of this is negligible. It's more of I 790 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 9: would think what you just said, the attention is on 791 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 9: the Seahawks more. 792 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but they would have broken that story if 793 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: this was Week four of the NFL. 794 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 7: If Yorks aren't in the Super Bowl. I'm wondering if 795 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 7: they break it now or they break it clear they'll. 796 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 6: Break it when they find the news. 797 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: Well, if you're a reporter and you're being told the 798 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: Seahawks are about to be put up for sale, you're 799 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: going to report it. 800 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 9: They're not going to tell you that as a report. 801 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: Right, But how do these guys find out? 802 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 6: I mean, just. 803 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 9: Because it is it is starting to gain. 804 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: But the insinuation is that Brady and Whippersnap put this 805 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: out now because it's Super Bowl. We know they think 806 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: they put it out when they put it out, when 807 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: they find the news they put it out. 808 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 9: Well the Wall Street Journal, Yes, yes, but suffice to 809 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 9: say that the timing of this it is not a coincidence. 810 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 9: The super Bowl is next week in the Seahawks are 811 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 9: playing it, Let's put it that way. Yes, but this 812 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 9: could have come out two weeks from now, of course 813 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 9: after the super Bowl, and in fact, the league would 814 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 9: rather have come out because they hate this, right, They 815 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 9: hate coaching changes, they hate ownership issues, they hate anything 816 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 9: that has to do away from the Super Bowl between 817 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 9: the conference championship game and this. So, uh, the upshot 818 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 9: is the timing, because we all knew this was happening 819 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 9: right right, Yeah, there's nothing right. 820 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: Now, It's just it's an inevitable conversation, right correct, All right, 821 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: So what. 822 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 6: Are you doing tonight? 823 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 3: Man? 824 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, we're doing a lot. I'm going to go into 825 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 9: more of this. We're going to break down DeMarcus Lawrence. 826 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 9: I don't know how much you guys have talked about 827 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 9: this the last couple of days. He made what might 828 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 9: have been the smartest play, certainly the most smartest impactful 829 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 9: play on fourth and four against the Rams. We're gonna 830 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 9: replay what I learned yesterday from John Schneider. You're gonna 831 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 9: hear from him, including the Kenneth Walker contracts. 832 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 3: Love it. 833 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 9: We're tsn VNCOU Canada based fact perfect. 834 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 6: We know him very well on the phone lines. Am 835 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 6: I like to do that? 836 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 3: Yes? 837 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 6: You can do whatever you want. 838 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: You can do it, all right, man? Yeah you got it? 839 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: Greg bells up. Next next time we talked to you, Monday, 840 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: three o'clock will be from Radio Row in San Francisco. 841 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you then next time we talk. It's game 842 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: week for Super Bowl sixty right here on ninety three 843 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: three kJ RSS