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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Richard Skinner's with us because

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Speaker 1: it's Wednesday, Local twelve Local twelve dot com getting set

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Speaker 1: for tomorrow's Bengals Steelers still ty skinny, Hey Moe, how

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Speaker 1: are you? I have?

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Speaker 2: I've really never been better? How about yourself?

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Speaker 3: I think I'm the same.

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Speaker 1: It's Trey Hendrickson gonna play?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It was left very vague on Monday.

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Speaker 3: I kind of expect, honestly, the way he walked off,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you're ruled out at halftime of a game,

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Speaker 3: turn around playing on Thursday usually doesn't take place. Initially

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Speaker 3: it was his back today on the official report, it

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Speaker 3: was his hip, and so I'm gonna guess this will

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Speaker 3: be Let's see what he looks like in pregame. You know,

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Speaker 3: if you could get fifteen to twenty snaps out of

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Speaker 3: in situational, maybe it comes to that. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the fact they didn't rule him out certainly gives you

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Speaker 3: a chance to put him in some level of a role,

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Speaker 3: but nowhere near. You know, he only plays about seventy

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Speaker 3: five percent of sasandy, we probably not even close.

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Speaker 1: To that if you go at all, I'm not upset

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Speaker 1: that they're benching Logan Wilson in favor of Barrett Carter,

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Speaker 1: because you know what, this is a league where draft

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Speaker 1: picks have to give you something as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: Logan Wilson might not have been playing poorly, but it's

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Speaker 1: not like he was rewriting history at the linebacker position.

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Speaker 2: And it feels like he is handling this well, I'm

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Speaker 2: okay with this? Should I be?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And I'll be honest with you. You know, our friend

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Speaker 3: Paul Danner Junior does a preseason podcast. That did it

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Speaker 3: at Tom's watch bar, and he asked us all to

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Speaker 3: you know, buy and sell a player, and I said,

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Speaker 3: you know, Sadley, I'm selling Logan Wilson. It wouldn't shock

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Speaker 3: me by week six if he's not a starter any longer.

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Speaker 3: And it came into fruition. You know. The weird pro wasmo,

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Speaker 3: I thought I was eating my words. Is the way

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Speaker 3: he played in Week one in Cleveland. I thought he

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Speaker 3: played really well. You know that was even after he

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Speaker 3: went off with you. They have a concussion protocol to

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Speaker 3: be evaluated for one and it's just I mean, I

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Speaker 3: blurted down in the Denver press box on one run

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Speaker 3: I don't know why he yelled it so loud, but

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Speaker 3: I did. It was blank blank logan take a better angle,

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Speaker 3: and it's just not where. It just wasn't working any longer.

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Speaker 3: And I do think to that point that they needed

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Speaker 3: a spark. They needed something different. Now, something different also

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Speaker 3: looks like you look like on the Josh Jacobs touchdown

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Speaker 3: run where Demetrius Knight goes to one sea gap and

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Speaker 3: Comparett Carter goes to the other sea gap and nobody's

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Speaker 3: in the middle of field. You can let that happen

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Speaker 3: once or twice because they're rookies, but you can't have

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Speaker 3: that happen much more. But I'm with you. It gives

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Speaker 3: you more athleticism. It just gives you something different, and

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Speaker 3: I think they need anything different at this point on

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Speaker 3: that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I have spent his entire NFL career feeling nothing when

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Speaker 1: it came to Joe Flacco. Appreciate the longevity. Appreciate what

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Speaker 1: he's done. It's hard to play that long in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of bounced around. On Friday. I became a

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Speaker 1: fan because I just saw somebody who appreciated the absurdity

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Speaker 1: of the situation that he's in and you know, I

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Speaker 1: was gonna make the most of it, And as that

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Speaker 1: game went forward on Sunday, he did, I'm team Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 1: Skinny no Man.

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Speaker 3: After the game, I wrote a column of you know

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Speaker 3: the comp and it's a quarterback now has given you

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Speaker 3: some legitimate reason for hope in turning things around now.

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Speaker 3: I also cited the defense needing to step forward to

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Speaker 3: and that's a big step they have to take at

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Speaker 3: this point. I'm not fully confident in that, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what they did from the last drive of

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Speaker 3: the first half on was was him starting to feel,

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Speaker 3: all right, let me just take this easy completion here

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Speaker 3: for eight yards and let me start to trust where

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Speaker 3: Jamar is going to be in t's one. It's one

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Speaker 3: thing to know what they are. He knows what they are,

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Speaker 3: he knows how good they are. But he had twelve

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Speaker 3: practice reps of Jamar Chase before that game. So even

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Speaker 3: though you believe in trust, he's gonna be where I

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Speaker 3: need the ball to go. So you see it happen,

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Speaker 3: you really don't probably fully have that trust, and then

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Speaker 3: you see it happen and you go, huh. I mean

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Speaker 3: he even made a point of one coming to the

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Speaker 3: sideline one point. Tell Jake Brinning, I mean, like these

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Speaker 3: guys snatch the ball. They don't just catch it, they

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Speaker 3: snatch it. And he said, you know, I made a

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Speaker 3: bad throat at Jamal on one thing, and he just

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Speaker 3: pucked it out of the air. And so I think

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Speaker 3: that's the thing. You saw that report take place, you know,

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Speaker 3: eight and Jamar had twelve o or fifteen catches in

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Speaker 3: the second half. I don't think that's a coincidence. I

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Speaker 3: think it's Joe Flacco realizing all right, here's what I

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Speaker 3: got to work with, and then when the coverage dictated

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Speaker 3: go somewhere else. Oh, here's an eight yard checkdown to

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Speaker 3: this guy or a seven yard pass of this Titan.

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Speaker 3: And I think they found something there. They found some

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Speaker 3: of the things he does well. I'm sure they found

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Speaker 3: some things he didn't do so well. And now this week,

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Speaker 3: instead of having a game plan in before he even

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Speaker 3: showed up, you've got a game plan hopefully tailored more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there has been this like surge of optimism through

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Speaker 1: the fan base, and I don't want to temper it now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they're gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the offensive line play we saw

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Speaker 1: in the second half is gonna hold up, but they

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Speaker 1: at least planted some seeds for success. And now you know,

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Speaker 1: the difference between three and four and two and five

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Speaker 1: seems absolutely massive.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's just it. I mean to your point

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Speaker 3: that the seeds of hope are there, but you now

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Speaker 3: have to go pay that hope off with this win.

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Speaker 3: You know, we throw must win games around all the time,

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Speaker 3: like this is a must win game, but this is

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Speaker 3: it's really few. It is for this reason. Mo. Well,

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Speaker 3: you're not mathematically eliminated, you're not out of anything, but

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Speaker 3: you came off four losses, three of which were ugly,

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Speaker 3: and the last one where you got a glimmer of hope.

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Speaker 3: And you think, okay, come home and win these three

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Speaker 3: games at home, get the five and four to buy

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Speaker 3: an off. We go, well, you got to win to

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Speaker 3: do that, and so that's why I think this is

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Speaker 3: a must win game two and five. The math comes.

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Speaker 3: It's hard, man. You're now four games in the lost

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Speaker 3: column behind. You know, you're in a muddle group of

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Speaker 3: the rest of the AFC. And even at that point,

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Speaker 3: if you lose, to go to two and five, and

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Speaker 3: it's five straight losses. I think then you're just left

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Speaker 3: with this a bad football team, and I don't think that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any other conclusion you can make,

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Speaker 3: So this to me is a must win for all

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Speaker 3: of those reasons.

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Speaker 2: Awesome stuff has always enjoyed the game tomorrow. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks about