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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: It's Skyline Time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Thursday. Welcome into the latest edition of

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Speaker 2: Cincy three sixty. You are listening on the Home of

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Speaker 2: talkback and we'll get to those talkbacks today. Midway through

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Speaker 2: our number two of the show. Our number three of

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Speaker 2: the show, we'll get started with our guy Keegan nickoson

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Speaker 2: covering the Bearcats for Bearcat Journal dot Com, and a

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Speaker 2: heck of a lot more along the way, including your

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Speaker 2: phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen. It

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Speaker 2: feels like back to a sense of normalcy here today.

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Speaker 2: MOA's back, which means Austin is back here on Sincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty.

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 4: What up?

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Speaker 3: Dough Man? What up?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 2: You could tell Austin that we are in the early

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Speaker 2: stages of red season, because the Reds are three and

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Speaker 2: three and already the talk sweeping the iHeart sales room

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Speaker 2: this morning and early afternoon has been college football win totals.

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Speaker 2: A lot of college football win totals. Is that what

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Speaker 2: you guys were talking about. It's what they were talking about.

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Speaker 2: UC's win total five and a half, Ohio State's win

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Speaker 2: total nine and a half. You could tell we're on

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Speaker 2: an early Reds off day after a disappointing series against

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates. When we're talking college football win totals on.

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Speaker 6: April second, somebody over there did say to me yesterday

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Speaker 6: or said to me earlier this morning, did the Reds

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Speaker 6: come crashing back down to Earth?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: And I said, did they ever leave? They scored six

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Speaker 6: runs in one game, and that's the most that they've scored.

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Speaker 6: It's not like they were the hottest team in baseball

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Speaker 6: by any stretch of the imagination. What about their defense,

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Speaker 6: though their defense is a little bit misleading, I think.

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Speaker 6: What about their pitching because you know, through the first

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Speaker 6: six games, they have zero errors, but they probably have two,

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Speaker 6: maybe three that they should have been considered errors. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's how I feel about them. That's how they've performed.

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Speaker 6: All right, Eh, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Now the Reds maybe coming back down to Earth. Artemis

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Speaker 2: two Austin is preparing for its final final major engine firing.

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Speaker 3: To put it on course for the Moon. That's right.

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Speaker 6: There's still what two hundred and thirty five thousand miles

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Speaker 6: away from the Moon, but they're forty thousand miles away

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Speaker 6: from us here on a planet Earth. Pretty crazy. And

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Speaker 6: you told me a great story that I would love

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Speaker 6: for you to tell our listeners about how you apparently

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Speaker 6: had no idea what was going on or that we

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Speaker 6: were sending people back to the Moon. And what I've

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Speaker 6: learned over the course of the last couple of days

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Speaker 6: is that you were not alone in this. Yeah, but

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Speaker 6: you had a moment of all I can describe it

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Speaker 6: is beautiful social interaction.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about that. Well, here's the thing. There are

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Speaker 2: times that I'm in a mood to conversate, and then

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Speaker 2: there are times where I'm just kind of ready.

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Speaker 3: To be done. Did you say conversation? Conversate? Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: what I just used. Now I write that one down.

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Speaker 2: I'm very focused on the task at hand on a

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Speaker 2: daily basis, which is talking about sports. So hand up yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know we were going to the moon.

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Speaker 2: I was leaving yesterday, and like it was one of

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Speaker 2: and there's a coworkers coming out as I hold the door.

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Speaker 3: Hold the door.

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Speaker 2: So then you hold the door, you open it back

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Speaker 2: up which floor And on the way down, this coworker says,

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Speaker 2: are you going to watch Artemis tonight? And now to me,

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Speaker 2: now I'm in a predicament because now I don't know

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Speaker 2: So I went to and often used tactic, and I

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Speaker 3: To me often used tactic.

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Speaker 2: Well, for me, for whatever reason, I would argue that

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Speaker 2: So I said, to the question of are you going

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Speaker 2: so we'll see how they're doing. And it was kind

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Speaker 2: because of how dumb I sounded. Yeah, And I got

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Speaker 2: privy to the idea that Artemis was actually the space

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Speaker 2: shuttle and the trip well, not a shuttle, well, the

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a rocket launch. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know what you would describe the capsule.

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Speaker 6: That's I thought in my mind. Yes, I said that.

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Speaker 6: This poor guy in the elevator with me, use I'm

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Speaker 6: which is probably the exact opposite of what you should

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Speaker 6: out in NASA gear. And he's asked, why are you

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Speaker 6: so excited about this? And he said, we're going to

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Speaker 6: the EF and Moon. And the kid was probably what

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Speaker 6: twelve years old something along those lines. Yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 6: I've watched it a thousand times. It's my favorite thing ever.

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Speaker 6: But this just goes to show I mean, sometimes it's

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Speaker 6: okay to just say, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: What's hard to miss?

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Speaker 6: Now, in your defense, I didn't find out until about

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Speaker 6: twenty four hours before the launch that it was happening.

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Speaker 3: Yep, had no idea, and that is a hand up.

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Speaker 3: Not my best moment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that. I just hope it's something you

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Speaker 6: Especially Here's why I don't mind it on an elevator.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to be on there that long. This

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Speaker 6: the opportunity if you don't want to converse, or you

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Speaker 6: of that pretty quickly. Yeah, I just I thought I

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Speaker 6: of my mind, you know what yesterday was was April first,

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Speaker 6: Do you was I kept it, I kept it on

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Speaker 6: the straight and narrow. Would you go to space?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm good.

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Speaker 6: I think I would do it. I have a hard

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Speaker 6: time going to the top of the hill on the beast.

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Speaker 6: I would hate everything about the process. I would hate

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Speaker 6: the whole load up in the capsule and the rockets, yeah,

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Speaker 6: and getting up there. But I think once I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's six to six be a great

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Speaker 6: I read that these guys are going to be coming

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Speaker 6: which is faster than any human has ever traveled before.

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Speaker 6: I'm good breaking records, man, I'm good. Speaking of April fools,

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Speaker 6: did you see what happened at the Wizards game last night?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: So the Washington Wizards, as of right now in the

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Speaker 3: Socially horrible team. They're awful.

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Speaker 2: There's like a week and a half left in the

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Speaker 2: bring him to half court and they blindfold him. And

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Speaker 2: the contest is, if you make the half court shot blindfolded,

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Speaker 2: you're walking away with ten grand. Okay, So they blindfold him,

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Speaker 2: he shoots it, and they all go nuts mascots.

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Speaker 3: On the court.

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Speaker 2: They tackle him. They present him with a ten thousand

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Speaker 2: you're still gonna walk away with a sign jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, listen, this guy's coming to watch your

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Speaker 6: I feel like you have to like you're trying to

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Speaker 3: It's a great April Fool's Day bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I did see that. Paul Papst who's the great producer

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Speaker 2: They said they're going to give him a sign jersey

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Speaker 2: instead and tickets to a game next year for his troubles.

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Speaker 6: The other thing though, like it is only ten thousand

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Speaker 2: Speaking of basketball, what about rapper J Cole? I thought

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Speaker 2: the Guangdong Tigers. He's playing with the Monkey Kings. Now

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Speaker 2: they're doubling down on this right now. Shams is on

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Speaker 2: the case. J Cole is going to be playing Chinese basketball.

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Speaker 2: So shout out to j Cole. Okay Cool just released

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Speaker 2: an album. Now he's like, all right, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: go hoop other hoop news. Uh, Bill Self is officially

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Speaker 2: coming back to Kansas, so Big twelve News, Jared Who

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Speaker 2: to Houston, obviously, there was speculation around Bill self. Bill

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Speaker 2: Self also coming back to Houston. We've got different rehab

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Speaker 3: He looks, here's the bitch. India Rockets is high in

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Speaker 8: Younger, wherever you are, it's time to party.

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Speaker 6: Twenty five biggins man? How about that twenty five racks?

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Speaker 6: have his best stuff yesterday, and to his to credit

436
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Speaker 6: his greatness, he found ways to overcome that. But still

437
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Speaker 6: the Reds need to be able to on a day

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Speaker 6: where he doesn't have his best stuff, be able to

439
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Speaker 6: pounce on that. You are going to face good pitchers

440
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Speaker 6: no matter what, and there are a lot of them

441
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Speaker 6: in this division and there are a lot of them

442
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Speaker 6: in the National League. There's got to be ways that

443
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Speaker 6: this team can overcome and find ways to scratch across

444
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Speaker 6: runs or forced pitchers out of the game more than

445
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Speaker 6: just five innings.

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Speaker 3: Paul Skin shut us down.

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Speaker 2: That was the thing, because there's a moment a couple

448
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Speaker 2: of years ago where the Reds were just in this

449
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Speaker 2: role of comebacks and the winning streak, and it felt

450
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Speaker 2: like in that run that a three or four run

451
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Speaker 2: deficit they could easily come back from that. The offense

452
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Speaker 2: that I watched a majority of last year and through

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Speaker 2: six games this year, That's my concern is I just

454
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Speaker 2: don't know if the way this offense is built against

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Speaker 2: the Paul Skins, can you put together three consecutive singles.

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Speaker 2: Because I watched one player yesterday in the batter's box

457
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Speaker 2: that I thought battled his tail off, and it was

458
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Speaker 2: South Stuart. Even on the about where he grounded out,

459
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Speaker 2: he was locked in. He's shaking his head, he's he's

460
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Speaker 2: essentially saying to himself, You're not gonna fool me. He

461
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Speaker 2: looked at some good pitches that were off out of

462
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Speaker 2: the zone. He fouled off pitches that he couldn't get

463
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Speaker 2: around to. But I thought, in that moment, I'm like, man,

464
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Speaker 2: South Stuart is battling his tailoff.

465
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Speaker 6: You could tell who could see the ball better than others.

466
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Speaker 6: I thought Friedo could see it. I drew two walks

467
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Speaker 6: from Skins and Freedol's not a thread at all, especially

468
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Speaker 6: the way he swung the bat. To this point, I

469
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Speaker 6: think Stuart's just a little bit more outgoing. I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of those conversations are happening internally for everybody,

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Speaker 6: but he's.

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Speaker 3: Just you can from him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But you know there are guys like Matt McClain

474
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Speaker 6: where it felt like he didn't see the fast ball once.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Skens just threw it right by him.

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Speaker 6: But like to go back to my point, like Andrew

477
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Speaker 6: Rabbits said after the game, he felt like he made

478
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Speaker 6: one bad pitch and that one bad pitch was thirteen

479
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Speaker 6: rows up in the right field seats and a three

480
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Speaker 6: run homer. The Red's got to be able to do that, yeah,

481
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Speaker 6: which yesterday Skeins made one bad pitch and Nathaniel low

482
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Speaker 6: hammered it in the gap for a double and scored

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Speaker 6: a run.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And yesterday they did get that one mistake when Montgomery

486
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Speaker 2: threw the pitch the curve ball to e Heniosuarez, and

487
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Speaker 2: Suarez made him pay. Do they have enough guys in

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Speaker 2: their lineup that can do that? And again it goes

489
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Speaker 2: back to the conversation of early returns, right we similar

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Speaker 2: to spring training conversation how much can you draw? How

491
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Speaker 2: much can you gather from six games for a lot

492
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Speaker 2: of these players, and where those concern levels sit with

493
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Speaker 2: what they were able to do last year, what they

494
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Speaker 2: did in spring training and gathering more information on who

495
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Speaker 2: the players are, I think is a conversation worth having

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Speaker 2: here in our number one the game itself, as we mentioned,

497
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Speaker 2: and we were on the air for yesterday Onil Cruz

498
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Speaker 2: hit a first inning, three run home run, his third

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Speaker 2: home run of the series against the Cincinnati Reds. After

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Speaker 2: that mentioned the Nathaniel Lowe doubled the center and then

501
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Speaker 2: in the sixth, unfortunately, as we've seen many times Austin

502
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Speaker 2: a pitcher come out of the bullpen and an inability

503
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Speaker 2: to throw strikes, Connor Phillips came in, threw eight of

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Speaker 2: nine pitches out of the zone and walked in a

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Speaker 2: batter that made it for to one. And then you

506
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Speaker 2: thought when you went into the bottom of the six

507
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Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, they only kept Paul Skins out there

508
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Speaker 2: for five innings yesterday, and as soon as Paul Skins

509
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Speaker 2: came out, Suarez hits the home run and it's four

510
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Speaker 2: to three, and you think, okay, one run deficit. Now

511
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Speaker 2: you're into the Pittsburgh Pirates bullpen. This might get interesting.

512
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately for the Reds that went in the other direction,

513
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Speaker 2: they only got one hit the rest of the way,

514
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Speaker 2: and Amelio Pagan was not able to fool anyone in

515
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Speaker 2: his appearance in the ninth yesterday, one inning, three hits,

516
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Speaker 2: four armed runs, for Emelio Pagan and the Pirates run

517
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Speaker 2: away with it eight to three. They also run away

518
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Speaker 2: with the series after the Reds took Game one. Pitching wise,

519
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: too early to have concerns with Amelio pagon No, too

520
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Speaker 2: early to have concerns with guys that can't throw strikes

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Speaker 2: out of the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Connor Phillips.

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Speaker 6: Two outings ago, you felt like this dude could maybe

524
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Speaker 6: take that job from Emilio Pagan, and then ever since then,

525
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Speaker 6: he's come in and walked the first two batters he's

526
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Speaker 6: faced on each of his outings. I think Graham Ashcraft

527
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Speaker 6: has turned around, bakes really good, looks nasty. His vlo

528
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Speaker 6: is coming up quite a bit, which is a good thing.

529
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Speaker 6: Tony Santien is starting to look more like himself and

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Speaker 6: scatter that fastball a little bit less. But I don't

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Speaker 6: feel confident in anybody in the bullpen. Pierce Johnson's been

532
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Speaker 6: tagged up a little bit to Gon's not fooling anybody.

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Speaker 6: I think Siam Mal has been okay. I think brock

534
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Speaker 6: Burk's been okay. But you don't really have an overwhelming

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Speaker 6: amount of confidence in that group right now, which is

536
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Speaker 6: a shame. Because that's where they spend a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Let's grab a break, let's come back, let's uh, let's

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Speaker 2: catch up with your phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, and let's talk about a couple of the

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Speaker 2: players and maybe some early decisions this season that the

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Speaker 2: Reds are going to have to make based on their

542
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Speaker 2: lineup and what they're able to do or not do.

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Speaker 2: It all happens here and No our number one since

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Speaker 2: he three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chile on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 11: When all right, welcome.

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Speaker 2: Back, Cincy three sixty thanks to Skyline Chili, ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We'll get back to the Reds

549
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Speaker 2: and in just a moment, Austin, but because we have

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Speaker 2: some Bengals news to get to.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Bengals have made two signings today to I don't

552
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Speaker 6: know that bolster is the word depth? Yes, depth, Depth

553
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Speaker 6: is the thing.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 6: Zach Taylor spoke at the NFL annual meetings the other

556
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Speaker 6: day and said, you know, our depth is it's never

557
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Speaker 6: going to be perfect. And that statement pissed me off

558
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Speaker 6: because who do you know that's been talking about depth

559
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Speaker 6: for a while. Your depth should be a priority for

560
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Speaker 6: this football team because injuries have bitten them. It's difficult

561
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Speaker 6: to withstand sure some stuff in the NFL for for

562
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Speaker 6: many many years. But anyways, I always thought Marvin Lewis

563
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Speaker 6: was really good at improving the bottom of the roster. Well,

564
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Speaker 6: the Bengals have done that. They've added a cornerback and

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Speaker 6: a safety today. Earlier this morning, they signed free agent

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Speaker 6: cornerback just Sir Taylor. Sir just Sir is a five

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Speaker 6: foot ten one and eighty five pound corner. I think

568
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Speaker 6: he'd played more of a nickel, but he didn't play

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Speaker 6: a lot of defensive snaps. More of a special teamer.

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Speaker 6: Twenty one tackles on special teams. He's played for the

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Speaker 6: Chargers and the Jets. And during the commercial break, why

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Speaker 6: right as we were going to break, Adam Schefter of

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Speaker 6: ESPN reports that, according to agent Drew Rosenhouse, former Steelers

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Speaker 6: and Patriot safety Kyle Duggar has signed a one year

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Speaker 6: deal with the Cincinnati Bengals. This is a name that

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Speaker 6: we talked about last year as a potential fit to

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Speaker 6: come in and replace Geno Stone. Well, he ended up

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Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh. He had forty two tackles and two picks

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Speaker 6: last year. I think he was just okay, maybe slightly

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Speaker 6: below average, not the best. Yeah, I think moving forward,

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Speaker 6: by the way, just with everything that's going on with PFF,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that I'm ever going to reference them again. Sure,

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Speaker 6: but the stuff from last year is still accurate, I

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Speaker 6: would say. But yeah, so depth at that position. I

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Speaker 6: just talked to Paul Danner Junior on Most Show yesterday

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Speaker 6: about why did they let Tyson Anderson go? Well, just

587
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Speaker 6: sir Taylor might be the replacement to Tyson Anderson on

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Speaker 6: special team Eames and Kyle Duggar looks to provide good

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Speaker 6: safety depth for a room that definitely needs it.

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Speaker 2: Before he went to the Steelers, there was a moment

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Speaker 2: I believe the Patriots used a thirteen point eight million

592
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Speaker 2: dollar franchise tag on him in twenty twenty four, used

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Speaker 2: him as a strong safety also a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a hybrid linebacker that can come down in the box

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Speaker 2: as well. So keep that in mind for what Al

596
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Speaker 2: Golden could be looking to do and use again with depth.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this changes anything if Caleb Downs were

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Speaker 2: still to be there at number ten.

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Speaker 3: Well, but it does give you a little bit added depth.

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Speaker 2: And as a thirty year old, a player who has

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Speaker 2: seen a lot in the National Football League and a

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Speaker 2: veteran presence in that.

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Speaker 6: Room, I know we're going to talk a little bit

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Speaker 6: about this later. In the way that the Bengals operate.

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Speaker 6: To me, this and knowing how they do things, I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying this is right. This to me takes Caleb

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Speaker 6: Downs off their board. Oh and again I'm not saying

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Speaker 6: I agree with that, but this is what that signifies

609
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Speaker 6: to me. I still think the first two picks for

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Speaker 6: the Bengals are going to be edge rusher and corner

611
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Speaker 6: or corner cord corner and edge rusher, flip the order.

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Speaker 6: I think those two are going to be the guys.

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Speaker 6: But this to me kind of pulls up. And we

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Speaker 6: also talk a lot about force multipliers. It's easy to

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Speaker 6: make fun of, but that's what they're looking for. And

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Speaker 6: a lot of positional versatility as well. Sure, Brian Cook

617
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Speaker 6: can be a versatile player, Jordan Battle can be a

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Speaker 6: versatile player, Kyle Duggar can be a versatile player. I

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Speaker 6: think this is a depth signing that makes sense, if

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Speaker 6: nothing else for the versatility, force multipliers, yeah.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: Our first call today called in yesterday and talked about

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Speaker 2: Reese Hines and the potential to be a force multiplier.

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Speaker 3: He's got some force in that bat.

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Speaker 2: And then ree Hines in a Grand Slam and another

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Speaker 2: home run, and yesterday's game, it's our good friend Mark

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Speaker 2: calling in.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Mark.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, how's it going? Aside from the possion players, I

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Speaker 10: won't go even call in to say anything about resigns,

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Speaker 10: as I already said it. But I remember before the

632
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Speaker 10: season I mentioned for God that they should get another

633
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Speaker 10: guy to close games out. I worry about him when

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Speaker 10: he comes in the game and he's facing either the

635
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Speaker 10: top or the middle of the lineup, mainly the middle

636
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Speaker 10: of the lineup. I worry about him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's warranted at this point.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he's not one, two three when he faces the

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Speaker 10: middle of that lineup. So I would hope at some

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Speaker 10: point during the season they can get somebody else. I

641
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Speaker 10: always believe you need two guys can close games out.

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Speaker 10: I don't think you can really rely on one guy

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Speaker 10: because pitchers are just like hitters. They going slumps too, yep,

644
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Speaker 10: and a few bad they can cost you a few

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Speaker 10: bad games. And that makes a difference at the end

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Speaker 10: of the season. So I'll get off and listen to

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Speaker 10: the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that, Mark Austin, Are you again early

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Speaker 2: on in the season? Is there a And I think

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Speaker 2: part of it too would be well, who would you

651
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Speaker 2: put in that position? But I don't think by any

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Speaker 2: stretch Amelio Pagan has slayed it in as a starter

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Speaker 2: for the rest or the closer for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the year. But to me, it's who can push him

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Speaker 2: to take that rollover I mentioned I thought it would

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Speaker 2: be Connor Phillips.

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Speaker 3: He struggled a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Who is positioned best to take that spot from Emelio

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Speaker 2: Pagan if the struggles continue.

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Speaker 6: It's probably Tony Santian or Connor Phillips. I do think

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Speaker 6: it's We are at a point in the season through

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Speaker 6: six games and as of today exactly one week, where

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Speaker 6: it is way too early to make declarations about players.

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Speaker 6: But what you can do is start to see trends

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Speaker 6: that emerge. And you know, Amelio Pagan towards the end

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Speaker 6: of last year wasn't somebody that we felt a lot

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Speaker 6: of confidence in. He didn't pitch very much at all

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Speaker 6: in spring training, nor did Tony Santian because of their

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Speaker 6: extreme workload a year ago. So I'm willing to give

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Speaker 6: them a little bit grace that maybe it's going to

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Speaker 6: take them a little bit longer. But to Mark's point,

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Speaker 6: the games in March and April count the same as

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Speaker 6: the ones in September, and you've got to be able

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Speaker 6: to win them, and you can't be throwing those games away.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not like in.

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Speaker 6: Full blown panic mode at the way that the bullpenner's

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Speaker 6: performing right now and they are being asked to do

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Speaker 6: a lot with the state of the starting rotation and

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Speaker 6: all of that, I understand it, but it is just like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: this is a concerning trend. Through the first six games

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Speaker 6: of the season.

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Speaker 2: Since his debut in twenty seventeen, Emilio Pagan has allowed

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Speaker 2: eighty seven home runs. That is twenty one more than

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Speaker 2: any other relief pitcher in that time frame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and.

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Speaker 6: Okay, wait, I got an idea closer at home, Tony Santian,

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Speaker 6: closer on the road, Amelio Pagan. Ok He's maybe he's

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Speaker 6: just too much of a fly ball pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, twenty one more home run given up

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Speaker 2: than any other relief pitcher since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Is is a wide margin and it should be twenty two.

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Speaker 6: Noelvie March has saved disass last year against Brian Reynolds's right, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, we'll break, We'll come back. We'll grab a call

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Speaker 3: or two.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap up our number one, and let's get a

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Speaker 2: gauge on some temperatures around some players on this Reds

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Speaker 2: team early on in the season.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more Cincinnati Bengals, even maybe a little college

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Speaker 2: football today as well. We'll catch up with Keith and

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Speaker 2: Nickoson at two o'clock. It's ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 13: Thanks to Skyline Chile WCKWY Cincinnatike since he three sixty

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Speaker 13: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's sports station. By the way, Austin, we mentioned it

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Speaker 2: at the top of the show. The Washington Wizards have

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Speaker 2: issued an apology. We apologized for last night's April Fools

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Speaker 2: joke that left money Money wondering if we had misled

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Speaker 2: a fan. Yeah, the skit involving our mask got and

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Speaker 2: other members of the performance team was scripted and intended

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Speaker 2: to celebrate the day. All participants were in on the joke,

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Speaker 2: but we missed the mark. Our fans are our priority

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Speaker 2: and we continue to be committed to providing a positive

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Speaker 2: experience to all who attend our games.

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Speaker 3: I knew that had to be a bit.

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Speaker 2: We got a point where we got to apologize for April

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Speaker 2: Fool's jokes. Now, yes, where have you been?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 6: This is going on like ten years of this sort

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Speaker 6: of suffredible People are sensitive, man.

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Speaker 3: I get it, man, you gotta watch out everywhere you're

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Speaker 3: at now.

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Speaker 6: I used to love April Fool's Day and now I

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Speaker 6: hate it. I mean, I retweeted something yesterday that I

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Speaker 6: agree with that you know, in the uh, in the

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Speaker 6: midst of the misinformation epidemic. Oh, April Fools doesn't really

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Speaker 6: hit the same Nope, not anymore. A couple of phone

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Speaker 6: calls to finish up the hour, Brian, what's.

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Speaker 10: Up, Hey guys?

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Speaker 14: Up?

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Speaker 4: And again Hey guys.

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Speaker 14: I just want to say one thing man about you, guys,

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Speaker 14: is that Tony. I love your perspective a lot on

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Speaker 14: a lot of these issues, you know, especially that you

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Speaker 14: being a quarterback at you see, Uh, you seem to

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Speaker 14: draw a lot of your experiences from you know, your

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Speaker 14: expansions as a as a ball player. Here, Austin, I

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Speaker 14: love the way you are brutally honest. I think I

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Speaker 14: would put you in the category of Marty Brennanan. I

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Speaker 14: think you need to be in the room.

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Speaker 3: I think, huh, I like, that's that's very kind, thank you.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's that's I mean, I'm serious, man, because you

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Speaker 14: asked the tough question, man. I think you need to

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Speaker 14: be in the room, like in the press conferences after

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Speaker 14: the Bengals game, asking the court of the coaches the

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Speaker 14: real questions, man, because I think they throw a lot

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Speaker 14: of top balls up there and Zach Taylor is you know,

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Speaker 14: I don't know, man. But anyway, what I wanted to

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Speaker 14: talk about was the Cincinnati Reds. I think the problem

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Speaker 14: with the Reds is, man, they put their closers in

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Speaker 14: bad positions because it's a lot of pressure on them

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Speaker 14: because they're always trying to come back. It's it's very few.

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Speaker 14: It seems like it's very few games. I mean, it

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Speaker 14: may have been more last year where they came in

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Speaker 14: to close while the Reds were winning. The Reds are

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Speaker 14: usually it looks like here lately, it looks like, you know,

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Speaker 14: it's not coming in to shut down the game. It's

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Speaker 14: it's making sure that nobody scores any more runs. And

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Speaker 14: I think that it puts a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 14: the on these pitchers es definitely, as we see, you know,

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Speaker 14: Pegne shruggling right now. But the Rents problem is, man,

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Speaker 14: everybody is swinging.

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Speaker 4: For the fences that.

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Speaker 14: Sometimes you need to sharden up your swing. You need

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Speaker 14: to be able to hit in situational you know, situational hitting,

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Speaker 14: positional hitting, hitting the ball in certain places to give

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Speaker 14: your you know, give your team the advantage when you're

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Speaker 14: trying to come back. I think Ellie to every Ellie

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Speaker 14: gets up, Man, he's got this big, sweeping swing, brou

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Speaker 14: Sometimes you need to need to control that swing. I

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Speaker 14: think South South Stewart is a perfect example of that.

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Speaker 14: Sometimes you got to cut the swing down.

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Speaker 3: Put the ball in play.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, put the ball in play. Put the pressure on

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Speaker 14: the defense to make a play. No, I'm not saying

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Speaker 14: I hit a straight tool, but I'm saying, you know,

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Speaker 14: you need to hit the ball hard, of course, but

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Speaker 14: you need to put the ball in play, man. Put

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Speaker 14: the pressure on the defense to make the play to

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Speaker 14: stop you from scoring. Brough. Yeah, and that's all. I'll

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Speaker 14: just hang up and listen, man, Brian.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You know I mentioned this briefly yesterday Austin, because I

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Speaker 2: noticed it Monday from Will Bentson. Will Benson has the

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Speaker 2: same swing if it's a one zero count that he

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Speaker 2: would with an O two count. His swing doesn't change.

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Speaker 2: And you can say the same thing about a lot

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Speaker 2: of Red's players. I still remember the Joey Vado at

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Speaker 2: bats where he gets two strikes and all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden he's looking up so far on the bat it's

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Speaker 2: almost comical. But that was the way of hitters approach

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Speaker 2: for many years. Two strikes shorten the swing, choke up

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Speaker 2: on the bat, put the ball in play. And see

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Speaker 2: what happens today. And it's not just a Reds problem today.

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Speaker 3: There are.

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Speaker 2: Far too many, in my opinion, Austin hitters that their

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Speaker 2: swing doesn't change because everything is about hitting the ball

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Speaker 2: out of the ballpark.

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Speaker 3: And it worked for.

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Speaker 2: Suarez the other day over the weekend because of O

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Speaker 2: two count he put it four hundred and ten feet

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Speaker 2: into the stands. But you don't see many players in

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Speaker 2: today's game, that are going to choke up with two

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Speaker 2: strikes and just try to put the ball in play.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. I

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Speaker 6: think certainly you are right that there are those types

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Speaker 6: of people. And a guy like au Haanio Suarez, he's

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Speaker 6: always looking to pull the ball, He's always looking to

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Speaker 6: hit home runs. He's not going to change very much

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Speaker 6: with two strikes. But just the other day to two strikes,

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Speaker 6: he got bailed out on that check swing and he

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Speaker 6: went the other way and shot the ball over the

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Speaker 6: second basement.

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Speaker 3: I think TJ.

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Speaker 6: Friedel said swing like is he was that his intent?

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Speaker 6: You think no, he had the check swing. It should

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Speaker 6: have been strike three. He came back into the box

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Speaker 6: after they for some reason didn't call it a strike

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Speaker 6: three and then put a good opposite field swing.

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Speaker 3: On the ball.

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Speaker 6: So I I think you're right, like it happens more

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Speaker 6: than it should. I don't think that it's necessarily a

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Speaker 6: huge problem with this team right now. And and I

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Speaker 6: think Ellie's actually a good example, and South Stewart are

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Speaker 6: good examples. South Stewart, for sure, Ellie hasn't gotten the

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Speaker 6: production I think we would like, But I think Ellie's

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Speaker 6: done does a better job of adjusting his swing than

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Speaker 6: people give him credit for depending on the count. He's

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Speaker 6: just he can't figure out if he wants to hit

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Speaker 6: a fastball or a curveball like he pitch by pitch,

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Speaker 6: can't see if you're out what he's looking for, and

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Speaker 6: that drives me nuts.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I get where you're coming from. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that. I think I don't know that I'm that

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Speaker 3: worried about it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe let's talk about some other things we may be

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Speaker 2: worried about. To kick off our number two also his

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Speaker 2: Brian's first point, there is something to be We talk

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Speaker 2: a lot about high stress situations. I thought to me,

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Speaker 2: the game was there for the Reds in the eighth

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Speaker 2: because you cut.

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Speaker 3: It to one.

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Speaker 2: Santition pitched a clean eighth, and then you had Ellie,

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Speaker 2: Stewart and Suarez in the eighth. It felt like if

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Speaker 2: they were gonna win that yesterday, it was gonna be

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Speaker 2: in the bottom of the eighth or at least tie it.

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Speaker 2: And then you do bring Pegan on in the ninth

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Speaker 2: with the idea of getting you to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the ninth only down one, and that blows up on you.

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Speaker 2: A little bit with Amelia Pegan, but they are they're

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Speaker 2: high leverage situations early on. But in the role of

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Speaker 2: a setup man or a closer, you're you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: doing that more often than not. So that just has

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Speaker 2: to be your makeup. You've got to be able to

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Speaker 2: thrive in those situation and be honest more oftentimes than not.

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Speaker 2: It it feels like Pegan has struggled through those situations.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about some concerns or what we need to

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Speaker 2: brush off as just an early part of the season.

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Speaker 2: We'll also add some phone calls as well. To kick

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Speaker 2: off our number two. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: for joining us. We'll grab some more phone calls along

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Speaker 2: the way, and I want to get to more of

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Speaker 2: a Reds conversation. We also have a little bit of

871
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: a City Connect announcement here, Austin.

872
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if you saw early this week

873
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 6: what is believed to be the Reds' new City Connect

874
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 6: uniforms was leaked. And I think every single new edition

875
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 6: of the City Connect uniforms across baseball has been leaked

876
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 6: by somebody other than the actual teams. The Reds are

877
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 6: due for an update on their City Connect and they

878
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 6: just posted a video on their social media that says

879
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 6: on April ninth, so a week from today today they

880
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 6: will announce or unveil whatever is next in their City

881
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 6: Connect series. Now, if you remember, the Reds on Friday

882
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 6: nights typically where their City Connect uniforms, So a week

883
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 6: from today would obviously be a Thursday night prior to

884
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 6: a home Friday night game against the Los Angeles Angels

885
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 6: next week. So I would assume this is an assumption

886
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 6: that the Reds will unveil these uniforms a week from

887
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 6: now and wear them eight days from now at Great

888
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 6: American Ballpark.

889
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: Now, if you have seen the leak and Austin, you've

890
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: seen this, are you in favor of the red with

891
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: the pinstripe.

892
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 6: Look, I need to see the entire ensem. Do they

893
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 6: go red pants as well? I would like that. I

894
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 6: think it would look best if they went with the

895
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 6: red pants. However, there is a splash of white on

896
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 6: the front with that sea, so it's the same City

897
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 6: Connects sea, but it's basically a white colorway of that sea,

898
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 6: and the name on the back is white. So it

899
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 6: makes me wonder where's the rest of the white in

900
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 6: the uniform. Is it going to come from the pants?

901
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 6: Is it going to be a part of the hat.

902
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 6: I need to see the rest of it before I

903
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 6: make up my entire decision. I've always been kind of

904
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 6: indifferent on the City Connects. I didn't love the black ones.

905
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 6: I thought they're cool, but they're fine. I didn't love them.

906
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 6: This is basically the same font and style, the same branding,

907
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 6: all the same logo, but I'm assuming it's a different

908
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 6: colorway with the red jersey and maybe red pants. I

909
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 6: don't think the Reds have ever had a full red uniform, right.

910
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 6: I think there was a period of time where they

911
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 6: did have a red pant that they wore with white jerseys,

912
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 6: but I don't think they ever had red on Red Yeah. Uh,

913
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 6: let me ask you a couple other I'd be open

914
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 6: to that. I would too, they see a couple of

915
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 6: the Reds related questions. Okay, last year, over the course

916
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 6: of the season, Matt McLean batted two twenty. Matt McLean

917
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 6: got the goodyear this year and by all accounts looked

918
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 6: like a completely different person. He has since started a

919
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 6: little bit slow again this year. We mentioned yesterday it

920
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 6: didn't look like he had any sense of understanding what

921
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: Paul Skenes was throwing out him struck out three times

922
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 6: at the dish yesterday.

923
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 3: Is it too early for you?

924
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: Because I'm looking bigger picture and I know what he

925
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: did in spring training, also know what he did for

926
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: the extent of all last year. When you look at

927
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: big picture, small six game sample size, do you have

928
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: much concern right now around Matt McLean.

929
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 10: No.

930
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 6: I think it's unfair to all these players to make

931
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 6: sweeping statements about them and who they are.

932
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: What about all last year? Sure, I think it's fair too. Well,

933
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: then that wouldn't be sweeping. That would be one hundred

934
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: and sixty two games of him being terrible last year.

935
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 6: I think it's fair to question Matt McLean. I don't

936
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 6: think it's fair to say, Okay, well, twenty twenty six

937
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 6: is going to be exactly the way twenty twenty five was.

938
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 6: The thing I look for is like, what how do

939
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 6: you look in the box? And I think yesterday was

940
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 6: the first time where it was like, man, Matt looks

941
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 6: like he's really struggling to pick up the baseball. And

942
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: again that's against Paul schemes. That's not an easy task

943
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 6: by any stretch the imagination. He's still putting together what

944
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 6: I believe are competitive at bats yesterday. Notwithstanding, I think

945
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 6: he still looks comfortable in the plate. At the plate,

946
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 6: I don't see signs of major issues for Matt McClain

947
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 6: through the first six games.

948
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: What I think is a little troublesome is four of

949
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: your five top hitters in the lineup are the top

950
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: four team are tied for first and second in strikeouts.

951
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: Ellie and Gino at ten. We knew that was going

952
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: to be the case. Friedel and McLain have already struck

953
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: out eight times. You don't want that swing and misrate

954
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 2: with your leadoff hitter in TJ.

955
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 3: Friedel.

956
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 2: Let me throw another name at you, because I think

957
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: it's pretty known at this point he doesn't hit Key

958
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: Brian Hayes because the conversation around Key Brian Hayes is

959
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: he very well could be the best fielding player in baseball,

960
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 2: especially at third base. You could also make the case

961
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: that he is one of, if not the worst hitters

962
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: in baseball that plays on a regular basis. Not a

963
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: situational hitter, but a guy who plays on a regular basis.

964
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: We know this about Key Brian Hayes. I don't think

965
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: anyone here is thinking, Okay, can Key Brian Hayes hit

966
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: two eighty for this team? But there is a threshold

967
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: that you've got to reach if you're Key Brian Hayes.

968
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: Where are you at right now? Again, six games in,

969
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: he's hitting point zero eight three on the year. And

970
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: this to me, with where the lineup is and potentially

971
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: where the lineup is going, I feel like this is

972
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: one of the players you circle and say, Okay, how

973
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: is this going to be addressed if it doesn't get better?

974
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, Key Brian Hayes is exactly who we all thought

975
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 6: he was. What's interesting about him is he hasn't struck

976
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: out once he's making contact, and he has driven the

977
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: ball hard at times, but it's not resulting in anything,

978
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 6: so it doesn't really matter. He has drawn a couple

979
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 6: of walks. He hasn't been completely useless. I mean, he's

980
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 6: not been very much use, but he hasn't been completely useless.

981
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 6: He's exactly what I've expected him to be. I like

982
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 6: that he makes contact. I like that he's not just

983
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 6: a strikeout every single time. But this is the issue

984
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 6: with the way that they've built the roster, and it

985
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 6: was our issue throughout spring training. It's our issue now.

986
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 6: I think the Reds have it ass backwards right now.

987
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 6: I think key Brian Hayes should be coming in in

988
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 6: the sixth, seventh, and eighth like Dane Myers does. I

989
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 6: don't think he should be starting games at third base.

990
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 6: And if you are a continually offensively challenged team like

991
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 6: this club has been through the first six games and

992
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 6: was for one hundred and sixty four games last year,

993
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 6: you need to do something to spark that offense a

994
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 6: little bit. And if that means taking a chance defensively,

995
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 6: and I understand defense matters, I'm not saying it doesn't,

996
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 6: but if that means you're gonna risk it a little

997
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 6: bit more defensively, I think there's something to that that

998
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 6: can help you.

999
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 3: Get a lead and bring him in late. Right.

1000
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I know, that's simple. I just don't understand

1001
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: why that's not more the case. Let me ask you

1002
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: about the outfield, because we talk about shifting guys and

1003
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: where guys are gonna play, and you're just constantly seeing

1004
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: guys in different positions are playing and not playing. I

1005
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: look at a guy in Jove Marte and Will Benson

1006
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: who are seemingly splitting time in the outfield right now.

1007
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: Can you be successful over the course of one sixty

1008
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: two by platooning as much as the Reds seemingly are

1009
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: going to platoon? Noelde Marte is still looking for his

1010
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: first hit on the year in only eight at bats.

1011
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: But is Marte the type of player that deserves or

1012
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: needs consistent at bats in the same way we talk

1013
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: about ree Hines or do you go the length of

1014
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: a season trying to platoon guys in the outfield as

1015
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: much as this Reds team does.

1016
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: Can you be successful platooning? Yes?

1017
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 6: I think you can. Can he be successful platooning with

1018
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 6: these guys?

1019
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 11: No?

1020
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 3: I don't think you can.

1021
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 6: Because Newelvie Marte his career reverse splits, like he's got

1022
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: reverse splits. He can't hit left handers. Okay, well Will

1023
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 6: Benson can't hit left handers either. He's not going to

1024
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 6: be in the lineup against lefties. So then you revert

1025
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 6: to noelvi Marte. Meanwhile, Benson's in the lineup against right right.

1026
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 6: It doesn't really make sense.

1027
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: And if you go to Reese Hines, what's that look like?

1028
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: Because he's a guy who needs consistent at bats. That's

1029
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 2: why he's down in Triple A according to Terry Francona,

1030
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: because he needs consistent at bouts.

1031
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 6: And I think you could very much make the argument

1032
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 6: that right now, Reese Hines provides the most complete player

1033
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 6: option out there. He's probably the best defensive outfielder they

1034
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 6: have in the system, I would think, and has the

1035
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 6: hottest bat in the entire organization. Correct, So I think

1036
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 6: there's a path to that. I wonder how long the

1037
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 6: Reds are willing to wait on the offense for that

1038
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 6: position or those outfield guys to come around before they

1039
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 6: look around and say, all right, screw it, we're gonna

1040
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 6: give re Signs a chance to play every single day.

1041
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of coming around, at some point, it's got a

1042
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: shift for some of these players. Spencer Steeer is one

1043
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: for seventeen with seven strikeouts, Tyler Stevenson one for thirteen,

1044
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: and TJ. Friedl is two for twenty two. Out of

1045
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: those three players, who gets it turned around the quickest.

1046
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say Spencer Steer just because I think he's

1047
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 6: the best hitter out of all of them.

1048
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: Okay, had some weird at bats, I feel like, because

1049
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: I feel like there's some competitive at bats, and then

1050
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: I feel like there's times where he just looks lost.

1051
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 3: At the plate.

1052
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 6: He's had two long fly balls that in July might

1053
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 6: be homers in that ballpark and could be the difference

1054
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 6: between the Reds being three and three and five and one.

1055
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 6: And he might just be one of those guys who's

1056
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 6: a notoriously slow starter, you know. That could be what

1057
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 6: it is with Spencer Steer. He is moving around a lot.

1058
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 6: I don't think that plays a role in it. I

1059
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 6: just think he's the best hitter, and I agree with

1060
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 6: I stand by what I said earlier that it's too

1061
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 6: early to make these statements, but when we look at

1062
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 6: trends that are beginning to emerge, that you earmark that

1063
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 6: you pay close attention to. For me, it would be

1064
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 6: TJ Friedel, a guy who, from a defensive standpoint, is

1065
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 6: not a very good center fielder. All the defensive metrics

1066
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: will tell you that he's below average. He doesn't have

1067
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 6: the elite speed, he doesn't have a great arm. Like

1068
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 6: the Reds like have these moments where they care deeply

1069
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 6: about defense in third base, but they don't at center field,

1070
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 6: and they don't in the corner outfield spots where there

1071
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 6: are liabilities at those positions. So I'm curious to see

1072
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 6: what the future holds for TJ. Friedel, because just as

1073
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 6: concerning as his start has been, Dane Meyer's start has

1074
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 6: been very impressive. Four hits in nine at bats, and

1075
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 6: it's obviously an insane clip, but he's also done it

1076
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 6: against right handers. He's got two big hits against right handers,

1077
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 6: and that was the knock on him that he can't

1078
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 6: hit right handed pitching. So I wonder, I just I

1079
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 6: want to know what the threshold is before the Reds

1080
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: start deciding it's time to tinker correct And.

1081
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: Because of your comment of slow starts have plagued this

1082
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: team and the importance of the month of April, with

1083
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: what the schedule is, you don't have the benefit of

1084
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: the doubt and say, well, let's just wait another week

1085
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: and let him hit himself out of it.

1086
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: You gotta win in April. Yep, you do.

1087
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 6: And so that's that's my conc These are the things

1088
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 6: that I'm paying attention to that I'm kind of concerned about.

1089
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 6: I'm not ready to, you know, give up on these

1090
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 6: dudes yet. I think that would be foolish. But I

1091
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 6: do think of that month of September against San Diego

1092
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 6: Milwaukee and the Dodgers and the Braves and the Blue

1093
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 6: Jays and the Cubs and think, Ahi, it's this team

1094
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 6: going to be able to even make it that far

1095
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 6: with games to play the matter.

1096
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get to talk backs, we'll grab a

1097
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: phone call Mike.

1098
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1099
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: Hey? Thanks? You guys appreciate it. On that point, you're

1100
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: just making I think when you have as far as

1101
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: flow starts, I think when you have veter improving players

1102
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: possibly all starts that are off to slow starts, you

1103
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: don't worry about it as much unless they're having terrible

1104
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: injury issues as much as you do younger guys who

1105
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: haven't proven themselves yet. So I think there is a good,

1106
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: good reason to have a little bit of concern. It

1107
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: is early, but I typically you're going to see veteran

1108
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 4: hitters come around quicker than you're going to see maybe

1109
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: the young guys who haven't truly proven themselves yet. So

1110
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 4: we just we just got to hope that's what goes down.

1111
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: I got a quick football question for you. Who was

1112
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: the first left handed quarterback to win a Super Bowl?

1113
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 6: I've heard this, I've heard this before. I know it's

1114
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 6: like a trick question.

1115
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's not tricky, Austin, it's not.

1116
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: It's not.

1117
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: It really is. But you guys, you know it's just

1118
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: way before your time.

1119
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: But it's not like was it.

1120
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 6: It's not Steve Young it was was correct.

1121
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't know.

1122
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: Kenny Stables for the Raiders. The snake Snake from Alabama

1123
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: played for Bear Bryant and uh yeah, they beat the

1124
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: They beat the Minnesota Vika with their butt super bow

1125
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: and then Stabler took them the Raiders five straight AFC

1126
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 4: Championship game. So he's a guy you don't hear about

1127
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: much because he passed well, they gave him this Hall

1128
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 4: of Fame thing posthumously. But I just thought i'd run

1129
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: that y because the guy was really good. Yeah, it's

1130
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 4: really good. Did you hear what Sandy Alcantara did last

1131
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 4: night after his complete game?

1132
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: No, not after not after all?

1133
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because he did in front of what about

1134
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: five thousand fans in Miami.

1135
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is, he's had it. He said, look, you

1136
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: know he's been a frocking fans. Yeah, you can't blame

1137
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: the guy. And he spent his whole career in Miami.

1138
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: You can imagine the amount of frustration that guy's looked

1139
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 4: with and he's been cool about it. But finally he said,

1140
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: you people aren't aren't even grateful, you know, you're we

1141
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: probably shouldn't even be here anymore. A should be in

1142
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: another city.

1143
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 6: In defense of the fans, it was a twelve forty

1144
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 6: game on a Wednesday. There's not a lot not a

1145
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 6: lot of those games across baseball are getting sold out.

1146
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: I tell you're not going to get a lot anymore.

1147
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: As a complete game with ninety three pitches like Alcantara

1148
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: did yesterday.

1149
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: A maddox they call him maddox.

1150
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: But he has had many of those in his career

1151
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 4: because he's been a stud for a long time. But

1152
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: the problem is the problem is they never could draw

1153
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: people ever.

1154
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 3: No, he's miamis he.

1155
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: Never Now his starts have come against the Rockies in

1156
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: the White Sox, but so far he's gone sixteen innings

1157
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: and not allowed to earn run. He has struck out

1158
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: twelve and only walked two. His next start will come

1159
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: against the Cincinnati Reds.

1160
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so hopefully we can catch him and him to

1161
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 4: him a little bit. Hey, I got a quickie on

1162
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 4: the NBA. Oh no, Mark was talking earlier about closures

1163
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 4: going to stumps too. But when you really look at

1164
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 4: the all time studs like Rivera oh yeah, and Raleys

1165
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 4: and Goose Gossage and Bruce Souter and Trevor Hoffman and

1166
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: Randy Myers and Rob Dibvil and even Diez and Chapman,

1167
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 4: these guys rarely going to any kind of swamp.

1168
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: Sure the consistency is there, yep.

1169
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 4: And then with the NBA, I don't see how Joker

1170
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: is not in the in the in the MV and

1171
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 4: in the MVP thing. He's got thirty one triple, he's

1172
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 4: in triple double.

1173
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's almost like they don't value triple doubles like

1174
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: they used to.

1175
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 4: No, and Sta gets away with not on fouls. It's bad.

1176
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: They got to do.

1177
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 4: Something about that. So anyway, I know you've got to

1178
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: go guys.

1179
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, Thanks Mike.

1180
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. To wrap aust to the Reds and

1181
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: the Pirates. I saw an interview with with Paul skeins.

1182
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: Did you see after they're hitting home runs they had

1183
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: the traffic cone?

1184
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know. Did you see the story

1185
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: behind this? No?

1186
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: So he was asked about it on a on an appearance.

1187
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: He did because they're saying, hoist the cone now in

1188
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and uh. Paul Skeen says, well, we found a

1189
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: traffic cone before the Tuesday game in Cincinnati. They just

1190
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: found it and they brought it into the dugout and

1191
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: they hoisted now on on home runs.

1192
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 6: Okay, so we should press against these they stole from

1193
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 6: the city of Cincinnati.

1194
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, the cone's been getting a lot of use.

1195
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: No one knows what hoisted code means.

1196
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 3: Okay, but they found it.

1197
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 6: He also said something weird after the game. Paul said

1198
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 6: that he has spent more time in Cincinnati the last

1199
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 6: six months than he has in Pittsburgh.

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01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1201
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's just because like they ended

1202
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 6: the season in Cincinnati and they're back here early on.

1203
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1204
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 6: I don't know if him and Livy have been hanging

1205
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 6: out with Joe Burrow. I know they're all friends from

1206
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 6: LSU about that, but I mean Paul Skan's future red Wow.

1207
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 6: All right, I'll give up Lodolo, Abbott and Green for

1208
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 6: Paul Skeens, would you yes? Yeah, Skeen's Burns Louder singer.

1209
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, Williamson, could you imagine talk back? Happy birthday,

1210
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 6: Brandon Williams since he three six, ESPN fifteen plate next time,

1211
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 6: Cincinnati Sports Station.

1212
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 16: Hey Alexa, who's out for ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1213
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

1214
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 11: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin and tone,

1215
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 11: please keep.

1216
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: It clean and don't be mean.

1217
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 11: And sprinkle, sprinkle, drip, drip.

1218
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

1219
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 11: It's our favorite part of SINCY three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

1220
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 11: play those bookbacks on your screen and.

1221
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: Please try not to sabotage.

1222
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: Real quick before we get into talkbacks. I had one

1223
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: question I didn't get to you yet. Okay, I had

1224
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: one for you too, you know. I saw earlier today

1225
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: that ESPN is set to reportedly move on from their

1226
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: number two Monday Night football team with Lewis Riddick and

1227
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: Dan Rolofsky and Chris Fowler in early steps. That is

1228
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: believed that that will go to Kurt Warner and Jason Kelsey.

1229
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

1230
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: I also saw that Jason Kelsey is going to be

1231
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: sent to the Masters to do the Part three Challenge

1232
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 2: on Wednesday of the Masters week. I'm a big Jason

1233
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: Kelcey fan. Are they doing too much with Jason Kelsey?

1234
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: Yes?

1235
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,479
Speaker 6: This is what does too much. This is what ESPN does.

1236
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 6: They force people down your throat when you don't want

1237
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 6: to see him. They put Steven A on everything, They

1238
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 6: bring Kelsey on everything, like he's everywhere.

1239
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: What Like, I just want to see him, like on

1240
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: a board, breaking down online play.

1241
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 6: I think you take away, Well, that's because his personality

1242
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 6: is so eclectic that like, they don't do that stuff

1243
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 6: with him. And also they're not interested in teaching people football.

1244
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 6: They just don't. And that's why I'm concerned about the

1245
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 6: merger with NFL Network. In ESPN, I could do three

1246
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 6: hours on this alone. That's also the reason why those

1247
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 6: guys aren't going to be doing those games anymore. There's

1248
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 6: also not going to be two Monday night games at

1249
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 6: the same time anymore. That's being changed. But yeah, I

1250
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 6: mean now they have access to all the NFL network

1251
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 6: talent and so they're probably going to change those booths.

1252
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 6: But I don't I really don't want Jason Kelsey at

1253
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 6: the Masters. I don't want him doing stuff that's not football. Yeah,

1254
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 6: I think that's fair. It's almost like they're almost kind

1255
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 6: of treating him like a Marshawn Lynch and Marshawn Okay,

1256
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 6: I could see that, but even then, you don't see

1257
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 6: Marshawn all the time.

1258
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1259
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 6: Anyways, I was thinking, you know, the last time the

1260
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 6: Reds did the City Connect Jerseys, Oh, there was a

1261
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 6: whole bunch of them sent out a lot of people

1262
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 6: around the city, a lot of them. We were not

1263
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 6: on that list. No, do you think we make the

1264
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,959
Speaker 6: list this time if they do it? Gosh, I hope.

1265
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: So. So are you betting yes or no?

1266
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: I would still bet no, okay, And it's kind of

1267
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: like hedging a bet in sports, like for the team

1268
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: you like I'm I'm hoping by saying no, I'm wrong.

1269
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 3: Okay, and that we do. I'd sure like one.

1270
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 17: Who in Kentucky. I've seen video of Burrow in LA

1271
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 17: with his girlfriend going to a pool party. I like

1272
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 17: the fact that he's carrying the football with him. I

1273
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 17: don't like, you know, the narrative's out there that he

1274
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 17: wants to be in LA, He's going to replace Stafford

1275
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 17: and this and that.

1276
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 3: Then why are you adding to the narrative.

1277
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 17: You're always in Los Angeles, You're never in Cincinnati.

1278
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: Why are you not here working out?

1279
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 17: It's one thing if you're winning here, but you haven't

1280
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 17: won in three years. It's a make or break year

1281
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 17: because if you don't win this year, I say, go

1282
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 17: to LA.

1283
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: But why are you always out there or not here?

1284
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 17: Chador's in the facility grinding in Cleveland.

1285
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 3: They say, well, Schador's got a lot more to prove

1286
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: than Joe Burrow. Other I.

1287
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't like, and it was obviously a much different level.

1288
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: When the season ended, I wanted to get out of Carolina.

1289
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: I loved living in Carolina. I liked being on the team.

1290
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: There's just something about the grind of the season that

1291
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: you need to get away, in my opinion, in the offseason.

1292
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 6: Every year that Joe Burrow has been the quarterback of

1293
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals, he goes to California in the offseason.

1294
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: It's not new.

1295
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 6: It's different because he's done events in California and because

1296
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 6: of who he's dating, allegedly he gets pictures taken off of

1297
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 6: them all the time. Yeah, but that is he for

1298
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 6: He used to go out there and train with Jordan Palmer.

1299
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 6: He goes and hangs out with Nick and Joey Bosa.

1300
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 6: They're best friends from Ohio State. Like, this is not new, correct.

1301
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 18: Well, what happened Fellas, I mean, no reason to red

1302
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 18: shitt it took That series from the Pirates is just

1303
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 18: absolutely bullok sent me dropping two straight to a division

1304
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 18: arrival and losing that. It's going to come down and

1305
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 18: bite you later on at some point and hopefully they

1306
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 18: get fixed. Austin. He did a great job filling in

1307
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 18: for Tony and for mo. I still think you to

1308
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 18: need your own show maybe from ten to noon and

1309
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 18: you'm joined totally there for an hour or two afterwards

1310
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 18: or something.

1311
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: Take care of everybody today. Making a lot of sense there.

1312
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 5: Kevin real Man thank you, Tony, shouting from healthy here.

1313
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 3: Sorry, I haven't been calling in much more.

1314
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 5: Just you know, when I get up at five point

1315
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 5: thirty in the morning, I should just record a song

1316
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 5: about my wife cheating on me, like multi personality might.

1317
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 11: Let's get that done with.

1318
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 5: Look, future bets are a big discussion right now. You

1319
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 5: know World Series odds for the Reds, Bengals, Nancy nor thoughts,

1320
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 5: But I really want to know what are the current

1321
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 5: odds for the Memorial Day basketball Tournament's bawling eighty easy

1322
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 5: plus or minus.

1323
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: What are we looking after that?

1324
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: He's about plus nine hundred at this point. Well, he

1325
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,520
Speaker 2: would probably have the longest odds.

1326
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 6: If he lands Billups. I think that would flip to

1327
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 6: minus two fifty. Chauncey no Jalen. I thought Chauncey's busy.

1328
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 5: Also, like, I know how you guys operate, Tony. You know,

1329
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 5: you're in your little room, Austin, You're in your little

1330
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 5: room and you're not really next to each other, but like,

1331
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 5: I'm sure you still piss each other off or you know,

1332
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 5: either not sticking to time the script or just saying

1333
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 5: something that irks the other. So like, how do you

1334
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 5: cope with that like annoyance of each other. Do you

1335
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 5: have like a stress ball that you like squeeze? Do

1336
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 5: you have pictures of each other you throw darts at?

1337
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 5: Like what do you do when you're really mad at

1338
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 5: the other but you're obviously not the same room and

1339
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 5: you're live on the air.

1340
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, normally Austin would just get in my ear and say, hey,

1341
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: we got to get to a break now.

1342
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I've ever been like outside

1343
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: of that, I think we keep to the clock pretty well.

1344
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 6: Yeah I don't, but I'm saying I don't think we've

1345
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 6: ever been like really mad at each other on the

1346
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 6: air to slam anything down. We definitely have irked each

1347
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 6: other in the past. I think we do a good

1348
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 6: job of just giving each other space and then the

1349
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 6: other one will cool off or whatever it is. Yeah,

1350
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 6: that happens, but I don't think it's professional. Yeah, I

1351
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 6: don't think on the air we've ever really been mad

1352
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 6: at each other.

1353
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: Like there are times, So there's been times where I've

1354
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,520
Speaker 2: taken a call or two actually might be like, dude,

1355
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: we've got to go and the call. That's the only

1356
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: time that like a two minutes later, I'm still on.

1357
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 6: I'm running hot. Is when you will take a call

1358
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 6: when we have to get to a break.

1359
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 10: But you're.

1360
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 6: When you will just let a caller take over the show.

1361
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 6: That drives me nuts. But I don't say.

1362
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 19: Anything talkback so I can hear my voice on the radio.

1363
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 19: Start bench cut. What did the Reds usually score during

1364
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 19: the game? Zero, one or two?

1365
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: Just let's just hear his voice from the grove.

1366
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 20: I'm not pressing the panic button on the season six

1367
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 20: games in, but I will say though that I am

1368
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 20: very concerned about Amelia Pagon at this point. I don't

1369
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 20: see how you continue to throw him out in the

1370
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 20: ninth inning. Steer and Freedom need to figure it out quick,

1371
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 20: because I'm starting the question for Lake just like I.

1372
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 21: Did last year.

1373
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 22: And it's kind of weird that for a football.

1374
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 20: Season, the Bengals struggle against Cleveland, the worst team in

1375
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 20: the division, and the red struggle against Pittsburgh, the worst

1376
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 20: team at the division.

1377
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't think about this, but the Pirates a

1378
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 3: bad matchup.

1379
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you know Red's early early returns second last

1380
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: in baseball in total run score.

1381
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 6: I have some runner runners in scoring positions stats we

1382
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 6: can get to.

1383
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 21: Oh, wouldn't it be nice if we could trade back.

1384
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 21: We could get some extra pig and then turn around

1385
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 21: and be like they're rams who won the Super Bowl

1386
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 21: by saying f then pics. Nope, we just trade them

1387
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 21: for some bed or players. Yeah, the Bengals brass has

1388
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 21: never been draft slayers.

1389
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be nice?

1390
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: Nope, no effort, Nope, nope. I'm trading up this year.

1391
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 3: Oh yep, oh boy, yep. I haven't heard your reasoning

1392
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: yet on this. I look forward to that.

1393
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 23: So Hobbs has Mike North and we're back on track

1394
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 23: for possibly playing for London and Madrid in the fall.

1395
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 23: If the Madrid mayor says the Bengals are coming in Madrid,

1396
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 23: don't believe him. But at some point in time, the

1397
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 23: Bengals would have to have advanced notice of that and

1398
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 23: we would hear about it, right, I would think.

1399
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 13: So.

1400
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

1401
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 6: I'm sure if it's happening, the Bengals know by now,

1402
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 6: because we're a month and a half away from the schedule.

1403
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 6: So I'm sure if it is happened, the Bengals.

1404
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: Know by now. Yeah.

1405
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 11: Hello, this is former President Ronald Regan and well, this

1406
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 11: morning I was conversating with Nancy and She told me

1407
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 11: that we were going back to the moon, that Tops

1408
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 11: is going back to the NFL, and that C. B.

1409
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 11: Buckner is now going by his new nickname of blind Spot.

1410
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's the old blind Spot.

1411
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: Ouch. Dude, CB got cracked yesterday. Did you see that? Yep?

1412
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 3: Like one oh four. Yeah.

1413
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 6: I felt bad for him, I really did. Like he's

1414
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 6: been taking a lot of heat and then he took

1415
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 6: some heat.

1416
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1417
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 21: Puka Nakua bites like a junkyard dog.

1418
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: Next up for rehab, Dan Hurley.

1419
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, physically assaulting someone.

1420
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit different.

1421
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 11: On the Playboy Shadow Artemis four Astronauts on a journey.

1422
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 6: Stop stop stop, tone, Audie, what's going on?

1423
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 10: Boy?

1424
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 24: It's may so glad to see the.

1425
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: Band back together.

1426
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 24: Hey, Mason, I heard you guys talking about if you

1427
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 24: would go up in space or not earlier.

1428
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 3: Tone.

1429
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 24: I know you're a definite no. Addie said he'd do it.

1430
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 24: So I had another question for you guys. Would you

1431
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 24: rather do a hot air balloon?

1432
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 14: Oh?

1433
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 24: I hate heights both ways, but I think a hot

1434
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 24: air balloon would be pretty damn cool.

1435
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely not.

1436
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: If I was in a hot air balloon, I would

1437
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: have to sit the whole time. I would have a

1438
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: panic attack. I can't walk across like a tall bridge

1439
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: without losing it.

1440
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 6: I can promise you, for as long as I live,

1441
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 6: I will never ever do either one of those things,

1442
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 6: because they are both very stupid.

1443
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: I'll say this as I get older. If you if

1444
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: you made me choose, I would skydive.

1445
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 6: I have more faith in my ability to pull a

1446
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 6: parachute than I do some hot air balloon.

1447
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 14: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

1448
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 25: Is it just me or did we see like we

1449
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 25: had bats early in spring training and then as the

1450
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 25: coaching improved, the bats went away. I don't know, do

1451
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 25: we need a coaching.

1452
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 6: The coaches were the same. Oh boy, how did the

1453
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 6: coaching improve?

1454
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh boy?

1455
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 6: I'll say this, early in spring training you're facing dudes

1456
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 6: that are pitching in Dayton right now. Also true, you're

1457
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 6: also in Arizona and the breaking balls don't move as much.

1458
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 6: And also once you get to the big leagues there's

1459
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 6: advanced scouting departments that you know come up with ways

1460
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 6: to attack you more than you see in spring training.

1461
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, the Reds have a lot to improve on

1462
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 6: for sure. But just a reminder, it's spring training.

1463
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 22: Hey, Phy, let's have be Friday Eve.

1464
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: It's DJ prum One speak of Friday.

1465
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 4: Audie.

1466
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 5: You ever seen the movie Friday?

1467
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 3: Would love to know what you think?

1468
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 26: And you thought this was firstly my.

1469
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 8: Favorite movie ever.

1470
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,879
Speaker 24: Okay, TV, I thought.

1471
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 12: That we were on the Hornets fanwaggon together.

1472
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 5: You gotta get back in the hive man playoff push

1473
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 5: Drible dribble, dribble paka nibble for triple have a great day,

1474
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 5: good vibe zone.

1475
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 3: Listen.

1476
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 6: I'm correctly Tony's not allowed back in Charlotte.

1477
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm in on the hive. I just don't think that

1478
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: teams are actively either tanking or trying not to win

1479
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: games in order to not play Charlotte in the first

1480
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: round of the playoffs.

1481
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 3: Tony stole some money from the Panthers, so they stole

1482
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: from me.

1483
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 14: Not a lot of time, but a lot to say.

1484
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 8: Marte should have never made the team out of camp

1485
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 8: if they wanted him to figure out how to hit

1486
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 8: left handed pitching. You don't do that in the majors.

1487
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 8: And then they're not even pinch hitting him against lefties,

1488
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 8: so it really makes no sense of why he's up here.

1489
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 8: I move him down, I put resigns up here for

1490
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 8: immediate offensive impact, crossing our fiend. But that's the move

1491
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 8: I'm making. Then I'm getting Chafing up here immediately. How

1492
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 8: quick can we get him up here?

1493
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 6: It's been pretty good so far in his early appearances.

1494
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 6: You do have two lefties up right now. I don't

1495
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 6: know if you want that many lefties in the bullpen,

1496
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 6: but it's possible. Also, I'm not saying this is true.

1497
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 6: I'm not saying the Reds are thinking about this. But

1498
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 6: Noelvi Marte. Bobblehead Day next Saturday. Oh boy, maybe we

1499
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 6: get through that and then we Yeah, do you remember

1500
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 6: the bobblehead last year? That was a tough one. He

1501
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 6: comes in and hits a walk off homer and then

1502
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 6: they do a fan vote on the bibblehead and he wins.

1503
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: Ye, that was a tough one. That one where to

1504
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 3: be found.

1505
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 16: Del Spencer to play games. It's okay to be silly.

1506
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 16: I will Hunter to listen to his trainer, who always

1507
01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 16: take care of him.

1508
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 3: I will.

1509
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 16: And when there's two strikes and you have to protect

1510
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 16: the plate, tell Ellie to swing away, swing away.

1511
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what signs the movie signs swing away.

1512
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 6: Meryl, well done to go back. Well done to DJ.

1513
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 6: I have never seen the movie Friday. I was given

1514
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 6: a DVD copy of it to watch it, and I

1515
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 6: never did.

1516
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 15: Hey, Tony, Hey, Austin just wanted to comment on all

1517
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 15: the mic hate that he's getting. I'll take a mic

1518
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 15: segment all day long over any FC Cincinnati talked any

1519
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 15: day of the week.

1520
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: Hey see, we all have different preferences. That's what makes

1521
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 3: this show great. A lot of hate on FC. We

1522
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: cover it all. We are equal opportunity offenders. Look forward

1523
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 3: to talking to Tom glad to tomorrow. Yeah, this is Ryan.

1524
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,839
Speaker 27: You guys get a chance to see San Francisco Giant

1525
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 27: Matt Chapman caw is first base. I'm gonna tell him

1526
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 27: to catch the freaking ball. He ain't say freaking he

1527
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 27: called him to catch the freaking ball.

1528
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 6: Uh, I didn't, But good for Matchack. Yeah, one of

1529
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 6: my favorite players in the league.

1530
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 28: It's the Lord Lord. I hope everybody's back in their

1531
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 28: regular time slot, Tony and Austin. I hope he gets

1532
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 28: back to his regular time slot.

1533
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 22: He is really great.

1534
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 28: Hearing the chickster slash snap bubbles the other day. You know,

1535
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 28: he banks so much energy, so much passion to the radio.

1536
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 28: I wish maybe he could be in the filling host

1537
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 28: for when Mos gone. Is there any way you could

1538
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 28: talk to him about that?

1539
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 21: Uh?

1540
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 3: Nope, ain't my job.

1541
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 26: I got nothing high Austin Hi, Tony, it's bag Ree Hines.

1542
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 26: Over the weekend in nineteen to bats in five games,

1543
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 26: six runs, twelve RBIs batting five sixty five with a

1544
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 26: six hundred on base percentage and a seventeen o five

1545
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 26: ops plus.

1546
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing well. Time to bring him up. By

1547
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 3: the way, have I just gone un rock Mo? Was

1548
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 3: it the final four? Yeah? When when I didn't know

1549
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 3: get skipped for everything? I didn't know that was happening.

1550
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 14: A couple of things real fast.

1551
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 29: If the ideal situation for key Brian Hayes is to

1552
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 29: come in in the sixth seventh day thinking then he

1553
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 29: doesn't need to be on the team. Emilio Pegan is

1554
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 29: a higher risk than he is reward type guy. Maybe

1555
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 29: package those two together, go out and try to find

1556
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 29: a legitimate closer that Tito can feel confident and throwing

1557
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 29: out there.

1558
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: Lastly, resigns.

1559
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 29: If the guy's just gonna sit there in triple A

1560
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 29: and not do anything, then go ahead and trade him

1561
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 29: get another arm, maybe leave the guy sign something has

1562
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 29: to be done in late and he's.

1563
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: He's ready to start trading six facts six games in.

1564
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: Didn't have that On the Bengo Car.

1565
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 30: Updated odds for you on the Memorial Day three on three.

1566
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 30: The favorite once again is Devin and Company d a

1567
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 30: shocking second place team currently is the team of the

1568
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 30: Bemis Twins with Chris Powers. That would put tone look

1569
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 30: as the third will not repeat, will not make the

1570
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 30: finals call with questions, Bye bye, bye bye Johnny.

1571
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: That is disrespectful as well.

1572
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 31: If you want a fun drinking game where you can

1573
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 31: pass out and like no time, listen to the Reds

1574
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 31: broadcast on the station down below and drink every time

1575
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 31: they say Paul schemes, Let's see, I don't know.

1576
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 3: Sounds like he's been drinking.

1577
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 12: Oh you guys are back together again, together again?

1578
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 3: Hand up.

1579
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 12: I am a beaten down, jaded, cynical Cincinnati Reds fan.

1580
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 12: Thirty years of losing will do that to a guy.

1581
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,480
Speaker 12: I'm not very likable. Hey, I have a question, who

1582
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 12: on this Reds team in the lineup would strike fear

1583
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 12: in opposing pictures. I can think of two guys right now.

1584
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: South Stewart because of how he's locked in, he's playing well.

1585
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: Other than that, I don't know.

1586
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 6: I think there are still some pictures that are going

1587
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 6: to challenge South Stuart and like prove that he can

1588
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 6: beat them before they're afraid of him. So I'm still

1589
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 6: going to say Ellie and swore As just because of

1590
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 6: their power. But I feel like those guys have there's

1591
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 6: more of a book on how to beat them, so

1592
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 6: maybe there's not as much fear.

1593
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good question.

1594
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 19: I have to leave a talk back because you guys

1595
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 19: never take my call. One time, my dad and I

1596
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 19: were in a hot air balloon and there was no

1597
01:21:55,479 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 19: wind whatsoever. The pilot took us up three thousand feet

1598
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 19: and I thought I was going to pass out because

1599
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 19: you could look, you could see light through the bottom

1600
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 19: of the basket. I was literally had tunnel vision. I

1601
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 19: was so panicked.

1602
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm out. I could never ever do it. I'm out. Never.

1603
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 25: Well, Austin dipping back in here again. I guess you're

1604
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 25: trying to tell us that we've got a double a

1605
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 25: game here playing Major League fall, got it, thanks, budd?

1606
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 3: Huh when did I say that?

1607
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 11: Huh?

1608
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: I never said that what.

1609
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 32: I'm trying to sneak this one in see no yeah

1610
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 32: from NKY.

1611
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 3: All right, Audie Tony, if.

1612
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 32: You're going into a hot air balloon, then you should

1613
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 32: be wearing a parachute with it, all right?

1614
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: Is that a thing? Come on, man? Do people in

1615
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: hot air balloons wear parachutes? I don't. I don't care

1616
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 3: if it's a thing or not. I'm not. I'm not

1617
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 3: trusting that. Good Mike.

1618
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 8: Segment's gotta be the worst, but I tend to listen

1619
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 8: to it on the podcast a.

1620
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 27: Little more nowadays, so I can just go ahead and

1621
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 27: fast forward through that.

1622
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: So, dear thing, Mike, that is the beauty of the podcast, yep.

1623
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 6: Is that you really can I mean, if there's something

1624
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 6: you don't like, yep, just do what you need to do.

1625
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 30: Hey, one final thing between the hot air balloon and skydiving,

1626
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 30: just remember, if at first you don't succeed, skydiving.

1627
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 3: Is not for you.

1628
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good joke, Johnny. It's a good joke.

1629
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 6: Glad to hear Johnny's listening today. Plummeting to your death.

1630
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 6: That's it, that's it, all right, Well we are done.

1631
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: That's good because I'm gonna head out in the hallway,

1632
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get answers as to why we're not

1633
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: on radio rowing into Johnny.

1634
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 6: If you want to know what it's like for Tony

1635
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 6: to be mad, this is it right here, it's about

1636
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 6: to be it. I've given up. I don't think it's

1637
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 6: about I don't care anymore, but Tony start this sort

1638
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 6: of stuff.

1639
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: I want to know why why we can't get included. Uh,

1640
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 3: we'll take a break. I'm happy for mo.

1641
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 2: I am too. It's not against mullets. Why can't we

1642
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: do noon to three? There radio row. I'm gonna go

1643
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: find out. One second, two we get back. I can't

1644
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: wait to get out of this room.

1645
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: Right now, we're doing one. Sorry, since he three sixty.

1646
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1647
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 3: How about this.

1648
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 6: This is a weird situation that happened in Los Angeles

1649
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 6: over the weekend.

1650
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: What happened or earlier this week? What happened?

1651
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 6: So the Calves went out to La for a road trip.

1652
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 6: Guardians were out there to play the Dodgers, and they

1653
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 6: stayed at the same hotel. Really, the Calves and the

1654
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 6: Guardians at the same time, staying at the same hotel.

1655
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 3: Wow.

1656
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 6: Apparently the Guardian's rookie phenom chased the latter, who's been

1657
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 6: awesome to start the season, was took it upon himself,

1658
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 6: according to a story in The Athletic, to go over

1659
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 6: and introduce him to the Calves. Okay, saying I'm from

1660
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 6: Cleveland too. How about that? That's a neat little story.

1661
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 6: How about this doesn't happen very often. Today's O'Connor a

1662
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 6: Chani and Levy injury Report. Okay, that happens every day.

1663
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,000
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1664
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,000
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1665
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 6: Tony's been put on the three day I l he's

1666
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 6: sick of this.

1667
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 3: Yep.

1668
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 20: You know.

1669
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 2: Let's not go to cover some bearcats and begles at

1670
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: the combine. Let's not go to the final four either.

1671
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 6: People are saying, now Jeremiah Love is going to be

1672
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 6: the pick now that Kyle Duggar is here. Could you imagine?

1673
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, the I gotta finish the injury report.

1674
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry, Nicol Doolo Dolo rehab start for the

1675
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: Tortugas tonight. Duges sixty to sixty five pitches. If all

1676
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: goes well, he could rejoin the team for the Miami

1677
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: Marlin series. That's your injury report, thanks to O'Connor.

1678
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 3: A choni anyway, Jeremiah Love, I.

1679
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 6: Was trying to think of, like what I could say

1680
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 6: or a bet that I could place if the Bengals

1681
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 6: took Jeremiah Love. What I would do? Trying to think

1682
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 6: because that ain't gonna happen. Careful, I know, careful. Just

1683
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 6: maybe a friendly wager with James Rapine.

1684
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Well, he is the one that threw it out there.

1685
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 3: He is the one that threw it out.

1686
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 6: I also keep wanting to call him Jeremiah Love. Hewitt

1687
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 6: works too, because I'm a cornball.

1688
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: That's why. How about this story? What else you got?

1689
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 10: Oh?

1690
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 2: This this one hits close to home. Oh, dinosaur chicken nuggets.

1691
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: New report out they could contain lead lead lead lee

1692
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: lead in the dinosaur chicken nuggets, which if you followed

1693
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: along this show for a long enough period of time,

1694
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: you know that is part of my diet, dino chicken nuggets.

1695
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was dino nugget, so I knew

1696
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: it was nuggets.

1697
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 2: I've grown out of the dino nuggets since then, but

1698
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: dinosaur chicken nuggets sold at Walmart could have been contaminated

1699
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: with lead not according to the US Department of Agriculture,

1700
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Food Safety and Inspection Service.

1701
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 6: I saw something a week or so ago that Trader Joe's,

1702
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 6: like fried rice, frozen fried rice, whatever it was, could

1703
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 6: contain shards of glass.

1704
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 3: How does that happen? You know? A big thing? Now?

1705
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 6: Who can we trust any more? Speaking of chicken, Like,

1706
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 6: do you put those nuggets when you make them? Do

1707
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 6: you put them in the air fryer?

1708
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 16: Uh?

1709
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 3: Used to? You don't anymore.

1710
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 6: I don't really make nuggets anymore since when, oh, since

1711
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 6: three minutes ago, about three minutes ago, maybe four. Well,

1712
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 6: there's like really healthy variations now of that sort of

1713
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 6: like they're breaded, they're like strips and nuggets, but they're healthy.

1714
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 6: The macros, as they say, are good. And if you

1715
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 6: look at me, I mean clearly I'm the picture of health.

1716
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 6: The macros. I've been eating those pretty good, eating them up, yeah,

1717
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 6: throw them in the air frar Okay.

1718
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 3: They get a little crispy. I don't mind that. And

1719
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 3: they're like actually insanely healthy. I don't mind.

1720
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: From a Calaic Stan, micros, micros, whatever you want to have.

1721
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 3: So did you during the break, did you go conversate

1722
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: with anyone?

1723
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 5: Uh?

1724
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 2: The conversation, Uh, Tarn Bland and I conversated.

1725
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

1726
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: He was the only one out there right now. I'm

1727
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 2: sure everyone else is listening and understanding the frustration.

1728
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 3: Here.

1729
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 6: We gotta go, man, we gotta go. We go make

1730
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Speaker 6: way for Keegan Nicholson. They'll probably be at the Final

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01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 6: four as well. We'll talk to Kegan Nigas.

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Speaker 3: He has no reason to be there there.

1733
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 2: None of we are, any of our teams there. So

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01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, okay, there's no reason for all right and

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01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: of us to be there?

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Speaker 3: Can us next?

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01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: With Keegan Nickoson on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 3: Station, Matt Rogers, Bowen Yang Here, this.

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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati.

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01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Here we go our number three since e three sixty.

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01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: It is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Momentarily ideally

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01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 2: getting to Keegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot com. Unless Keegan is,

1744
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, somewhere at the Final four and maybe he

1745
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have service right now, maybe radio rows busy.

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01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 3: I don't know our number three. We'll check in with Moager.

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01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: We'll talk some Bengals, we'll talk some draft strategy as

1748
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 2: as well. And a question that I have and it

1749
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 2: came up a little bit earlier today before the show.

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01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 2: Some early college football futures are out, and we've talked

1751
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: about this when they initially came out with UC's posted

1752
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 2: total at five and a half. The Ohio State Buckeyes

1753
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: posted total is nine and a half. We'll go through

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01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 2: some of those futures and I re number three as well.

1755
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: But what I did find interesting is along with the futures,

1756
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: you can get some early betting lines into the early

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01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 2: season action for college football. In some of the marquee games.

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01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 2: For instance, August twenty ninth, North Carolina and TCU have

1759
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 2: a game TCUs a seven and a half point favorite.

1760
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 2: What about the fall of Clemson Austin The Clemson Tigers

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01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: play against LSU on September fifth, early line on that

1762
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: LSU minus eleven and a half. Is that more about

1763
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: how good Lane Kiff and LSU can be or is

1764
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 2: that more about how far the ACC and Clemson has

1765
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 2: fallen Louisville and Old Miss an early season game, Louisville

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01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 2: getting eight and a half against Old Miss Baylor Auburn

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Speaker 2: early in the year. How about Wisconsin at Notre Dame

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01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: on September sixth, Right now, if you wanted to bet that,

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01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 2: you'd have to lay eighteen and a half points for

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01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame fighting Irish eighteen and a half. Notre

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01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: Dame is favored over the Wisconsin Badgers. September twelfth, some

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01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: good football on the schedule. Michigan host Oklahoma right now.

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01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: Michigan's a two and a half point favorite and returning

1774
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 2: to Texas after their trip to Ohio State last year,

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01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes will travel to take on Arch Manning and

1776
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 2: the Texas Longhorns. Right now, Texas is a two and

1777
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: a half point favorite at home against Ohio State.

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01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 3: And I believe a lot.

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01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,759
Speaker 2: Of that has to do with the amount of players

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01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: that Ohio States is looking to replace. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in just a little bit. We have found our

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01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,719
Speaker 2: friend from Bearcat Journal dot com, Keegan Nicholson, is joining

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01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: us right now.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Keagan, how are you?

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Speaker 22: I'm doing great?

1786
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 3: Tony, how are you doing great? Are you at the

1787
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: final four.

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01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

1789
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 22: I'm on my way to the beautiful indoor practice facility

1790
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 22: at Cincinnati to watch some spring practice.

1791
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 2: How has spring ball gone? Because I talk about this often,

1792
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 2: it just spring football feels different. You don't lead up

1793
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 2: to a spring game anymore. It's more of a showcase.

1794
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: There's so much shuffling of the roster. Any big takeaways

1795
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 2: that at this point in spring ball for you.

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Speaker 22: I think this team's gonna run the crap out of

1797
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 22: the ball and play better defense. Watching Zion Johnson and

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01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 22: Jabron Pain run the ball behind this offensive line. They've

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01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 22: done it with a ton of six s Ion Johnson's

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01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 22: for the eight six yeard touchdowns, and then they're bringing

1801
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 22: tons of pressure which wasn't normal in the three three five,

1802
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 22: kind of disrupting the TV. So I think the turnovers

1803
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 22: are going to be up and they're going to really

1804
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 22: lean on the running game.

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01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: How how different is it going to be? Because I

1806
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: know we talk about Scott Saderfield's offense a lot, but

1807
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 2: when you don't have a quarterback returning, it just adds

1808
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 2: another wrinkle, another layer of what you've got to get done.

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01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: How does the quarterback position look? I know it's only

1810
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 2: April second, but how does that position look right now

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01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: for the Bearcats.

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01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think JC French looks like the most seasoned

1813
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 22: and most ready guy samaas Jones has had a few

1814
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 22: good practices. But I just think if you're going to

1815
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 22: bring in a guy like Jasey French and pay him

1816
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 22: decent money compared to the rest of the quarterback market,

1817
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 22: it's decent money. I think that's the guy that you're

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01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 22: gonna but under center. And you know, he hasn't looked

1819
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 22: at as flashy as explosive as brinnonce Rosby looked at times.

1820
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 22: But he's an accurate passer who hits a lot of

1821
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 22: underneath routes and goes sideline the sideline and then you

1822
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 22: see him a little bit kind of try to stretch

1823
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 22: the field. But you know, I think there's a really

1824
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 22: high floor with JC French. It's tough to make judgments

1825
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 22: on spring, but I'm more ready for Fall to see

1826
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 22: exactly how far he's come along. Mints transition.

1827
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 3: Let's switch gears.

1828
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk basketball, because we have seen this media

1829
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 2: tour from Jared Calhoun. He has He's been everywhere and

1830
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 2: seemingly during an extremely busy time right now, including an

1831
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 2: appearance on this show. He was on with New Heights

1832
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 2: with Jason and Travis Kelsey. How impressed are you early

1833
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 2: on with just I guess more so than anything the

1834
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 2: reception that Jared Calhoun has received by the fan base

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01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: and by those around the program here.

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01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, it's it's not surprising, and I think

1837
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 22: I am really really impressed. I've been told that they

1838
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 22: think a lot of people think this is the best

1839
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 22: fit and a higher that you see he's like ever

1840
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 22: had And I wouldn't really disagree with the people saying

1841
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 22: that he's staying all the right things. I especially love

1842
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 22: how he's just coming out and admitting how good his

1843
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 22: offense is. And you shouldn't really expect a bunch of

1844
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 22: rock fights at Fifth Third Arena anymore, like saying, no

1845
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 22: one talks about defense in the portal and kids don't

1846
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 22: want to play for us because the ball, because the

1847
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 22: ball goes in the hoop. And it's definitely different for

1848
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 22: a lot of Cincinnati fans, but it's probably refreshing, knowing

1849
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 22: the brand of basketball they've watched over the past ten

1850
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 22: to fifteen years. Seeing some eighty point games will be fun.

1851
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 22: But I think he's doing a great job. He seems

1852
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 22: like an extremely likable guy, and good on him getting

1853
01:35:58,160 --> 01:35:59,440
Speaker 22: on the Kelsey podcast.

1854
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 4: And I know that's not.

1855
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 22: As big as uh nifty three sixty, but you know,

1856
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 22: he's just got to he's gotta get forward where he

1857
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 22: can the roster.

1858
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 2: I know April seventh is the date everyone has circled

1859
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 2: and we've not heard anything from any players on UC currently.

1860
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 2: How do you envision the roster right now? I think

1861
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 2: the names that a lot of people, or at least

1862
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 2: I've talked about, Jalen Haynes, keischan Tillery, Gisel James, Mustapha

1863
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 2: Cham what's the odds of any or potentially all of

1864
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 2: them being back to the Bearcats.

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01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think the most likely player from last year's

1866
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 22: roster to come back would be keischan Tillery. I'm not

1867
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 22: saying that I expect him to come back or that

1868
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 22: he will come back, but I think if there's going

1869
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,839
Speaker 22: to be anybody, I think it would probably be keischan Tillery.

1870
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 22: And then I think you should expect a decent amount

1871
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 22: of guys from Utah State to come and then they

1872
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 22: back throw the roster through the portal. But yeah, I'm

1873
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 22: not expecting a bunch of guys to you know, change

1874
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 22: their mind to wouldn't even show up to his press conference.

1875
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 22: But then you see like Mason false Live and Carson

1876
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 22: Templin and I think it's been Jacobson's press conference at

1877
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 22: Utah State when he was introduced. So there's a lot

1878
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 22: of stuff that's probably gonna change over the next week

1879
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 22: and a lot of movement that's gonna happen, and I'm

1880
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 22: really really.

1881
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 8: Excited for it.

1882
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 2: What is happening right now? Because the portal opens on

1883
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 2: April seventh, that doesn't mean that there's not conversations being had.

1884
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 2: What does that timeframe look like between now and the seventh?

1885
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean I'm surprised we're not seeing a bunch

1886
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 22: of Cincinnati guys kind of announced their intention to go

1887
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 22: to the portal. I'm not exactly sure what the.

1888
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 3: Hold up is.

1889
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 22: Maybe they're already having conversations with coaches.

1890
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 13: Of course we know that.

1891
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:55,440
Speaker 22: They probably are having conversations with coaches in this college landscape.

1892
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 22: But yeah, I think you should expect it to happen

1893
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 22: pretty fast. When you have such a big roster to

1894
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 22: phill like, you need to get on the stick pretty quickly,

1895
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 22: so like that that Tuesday after the National championship game,

1896
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 22: that Tuesday through Friday, I think stuff's going to be

1897
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 22: very very fast and it should be really fun week.

1898
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: What will the early expectations for Jared Calhoun be? Because

1899
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 2: you mentioned the resounding positivity around this hire, and even

1900
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 2: in talking to Jared Calhoun, he's he's made it evident

1901
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 2: that getting back to the tournament is attainable and that's

1902
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 2: where the goals start. What does what does it look

1903
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,600
Speaker 2: like for for him next year? Where you when you

1904
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 2: set expectations, is it NCAA tournament in year one?

1905
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 3: In your opinion, I think it should be.

1906
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 22: I'm not saying that that's going to happen. And we

1907
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 22: actually had an argument on the Barica General YouTube network

1908
01:38:54,960 --> 01:39:00,839
Speaker 22: about this on multiple shows, But I I don't understand

1909
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 22: how you can call yourself a quote unquote basketball school

1910
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 22: and give a coach ten million dollars in nil and

1911
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,600
Speaker 22: not have the expectation that you at least make the

1912
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 22: NCAA tournament every year. And people say, well, you don't

1913
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 22: know what the roster looks like yet, Like you.

1914
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 4: Can't say that.

1915
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 22: I'm like, well, Kansas and North Carolina and Duke and

1916
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 22: Villanova and all those kinds of schools. They aren't waiting

1917
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 22: for what the roster looks like to know that they

1918
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 22: should be in the NCAA tournament. And then on the

1919
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 22: flip side, like if that's not the expectation to give

1920
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 22: that extra money to the football team and compete in football.

1921
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 22: So I also think we're over complicating how hard it

1922
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 22: is to make it to the tournament. Like you look

1923
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 22: at wes Miller's last three years. He goes on the

1924
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 22: bubble all three years because he had horrible losses and

1925
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 22: blown games late, And part of me is thinking, like

1926
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 22: Jared Calhoun, he seems like a good enough coach that

1927
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 22: he should be able to manage those games and not

1928
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 22: lose to an Eastern Michigan, not start like a a

1929
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 22: thirty to three game against Clemson and then lose by

1930
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 22: a point, not blow a fifteen point lead at home

1931
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 22: to West Virginia. So I think wes Miller made it very,

1932
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 22: very difficult on himself to make it to the tournament,

1933
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 22: and like at a school like Cincinnati, it should not

1934
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 22: be that hard. And I think the standards should be

1935
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 22: the tournament every single year, regardless of what the roster

1936
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 22: looks like.

1937
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,719
Speaker 2: I know that Corey Evans that the GM is remaining.

1938
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 2: Do we have the staff that Jared Calhoun is bringing together?

1939
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Obviously a lot is going on. What does the staff

1940
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 2: in that construction look like.

1941
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 22: Yeah, there's been some rumors that hasn't been anything officially

1942
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 22: confirmed yet. There were a few guys from the East

1943
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 22: of State staff at the presser, and part of you

1944
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 22: is like, Okay, well, it's pretty safe to assume that

1945
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 22: those guys are going to be there. Paul Mulinari was

1946
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 22: the name. Mantorith Robinson was another name. Also like, don't

1947
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 22: be surprised if how him tries to go and get

1948
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 22: a former Bearcat to join his staff, because he has

1949
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 22: some some positions to fill with Eric Howe taking the

1950
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 22: Charletan State job. But that was actually a really important

1951
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 22: position of kind of like a defensive coordinator that he had,

1952
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 22: so I don't I think that's more of a specific

1953
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 22: niche position that he'd fell. But yeah, there hasn't been

1954
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,839
Speaker 22: anything officially confirmed by the university, and I would expect

1955
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 22: that in the in the next couple of days as

1956
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 22: the portal gets going and you kind of want these

1957
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 22: players to have some.

1958
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 2: Clarity Final four Wise, who do you think cuts down

1959
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 2: the nets? After Monday with the teams and the makeups,

1960
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 2: And what I think is interesting is how the rosters

1961
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 2: are assembled. Illinois has gone for it overseas roster Jerry

1962
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 2: Calhoun talked about Yukon and how they're so deep into

1963
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 2: the sets that they run, and then you think of

1964
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: size when you think of Arizona and Michigan, who do

1965
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 2: you think has the advantage this weekend?

1966
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 27: Yeah?

1967
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 22: I was all over at Michigan. The Elliott Cadeau thing

1968
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 22: is kind of worrying me about having an allergic reaction

1969
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 22: to practice and like he's joining the team in Indy soon.

1970
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 22: I still think Yaxel Lundenberg is one of the better

1971
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 22: players left in the tournament. And I think that Michigan

1972
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 22: is going to reign supreme and cut down the nets.

1973
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 22: I think that they're they're big, and they're really really

1974
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 22: good at that size, like a Day Mara and Yaxel

1975
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 22: Lundenberg and then they have good guard play. And you

1976
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 22: know it's Arizona. They got a lot of stuff going

1977
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 22: on right now. Is their coach going to leave and

1978
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 22: take the North Carolina job? How is that a distraction?

1979
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 22: But still I think that they would have to beat Yukon,

1980
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 22: who is like some ridiculous record in the NCAA tournament

1981
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 22: over the past like ten years, something like seventeen and three,

1982
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 22: and Dan Hurley hasn't lost after the Sweet sixteen, so

1983
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 22: they also have Team of Destiny Bibstone.

1984
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 2: I had one other question on the football side of things,

1985
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 2: because it was something that I was actually asking before

1986
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: the show today. Was looking at at futures or win

1987
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 2: totals in the upcoming college football season and knowing what

1988
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 2: the UC schedule looks like, They're posted total is five

1989
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:15,879
Speaker 2: and a half. I know that with the coaching change

1990
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 2: with Wes Miller, it obviously puts now the microscope on

1991
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 2: Scott's sadderfield. What does the term success look like for

1992
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 2: you for UC football going into this season.

1993
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 22: I think success is seven wins. I think Scott sadeco

1994
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 22: keeps his job at six wins, and I think five

1995
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 22: wins is when you start to maybe wonder if they

1996
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 22: might make a change the West situation. If you would

1997
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 22: have told me, like, hey, they're going to fire Wes Miller,

1998
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 22: I would be like, Okay, well, no matter what happens,

1999
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 22: they're not firing Scott's sadderfield after the twenty twenty sixth season.

2000
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 22: But they got a very very favorable buyout at three

2001
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 22: million dollars compared to what he was originally a which

2002
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 22: is ten and it is even way lower than what

2003
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 22: I thought the negotiated by might come to. So they

2004
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 22: are in a position where if it's bad enough and

2005
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 22: they want to make a change, I do think that

2006
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 22: they would be financially able to without having access to

2007
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 22: the exactly.

2008
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 14: What the books look like.

2009
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 22: But I think seven wins is a good year because

2010
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 22: they have a really tough schedule. Six wins keeps his

2011
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 22: job and then anything worse than that, maybe you think

2012
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 22: about making change. Maybe it gets a.

2013
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 3: Little hairy kicking.

2014
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I gotta ask you. Quentin

2015
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 2: coach it his twentieth of the year the other night.

2016
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 2: He's on fire. This baseball team is in a very

2017
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 2: good way. Describe a little bit for those that haven't

2018
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 2: got to follow along yet, just how good of a

2019
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 2: start this Bearcat baseball team is off to and what

2020
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 2: their big twelve hopes look like.

2021
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think they're twenty one wins. I think they

2022
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 22: were the fastest team in you see baseball history to

2023
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 22: reach twenty wins and Quentin coach is a big reason

2024
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 22: for that, and having twenty home runs leading the country,

2025
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 22: and I I think that I'm not going to say

2026
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 22: he's gonna finish for forty five homers, which is what

2027
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,600
Speaker 22: he's like on pace to hit right now. But his

2028
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 22: swing is so repeatable and it's so effortless that it

2029
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 22: wouldn't shock me if he got to like thirty fives

2030
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 22: something like that and just continues that crazy power. And

2031
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 22: then you have Jack and Teely hitting behind him and

2032
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 22: other guys who are just absolutely killing the ball, and

2033
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 22: then they have a lot of depth at pitching. They

2034
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 22: kind of struggled last week a little bit and the

2035
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 22: bats kind of quieted down, but I think that they

2036
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 22: have the right guy head coach to kind of weather

2037
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 22: those storms. So don't be surprised if they end up

2038
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 22: getting a two seed at whatever regional they get at,

2039
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 22: or you know, maybe they go crazy in the Big

2040
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 22: twelve and end up actually hosting the regional, which we

2041
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 22: all know would just be a crazy atmosphere at the

2042
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 22: UC Baseball Stadium.

2043
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 2: Kiging Man, thanks so much for joining us enjoy a

2044
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 2: little taste of spring football practice.

2045
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 3: Man, we appreciate you give our best to coach sack Cubes.

2046
01:45:58,439 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 22: Absolutely I will.

2047
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:05,759
Speaker 2: That is Keegan Niggison, Bearcat Journal dot com follow along

2048
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 2: with everything Keegan has and the rest of Bearcat Journal

2049
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 2: to keep up with all things with the Cincinnati Bearcats.

2050
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 2: Let's add on to that conversation when we get back.

2051
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: I want to finish the thought leading into Keegan of

2052
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 2: some early college football spreads and those win totals and

2053
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 2: the term success for UC football this year. We'll also

2054
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 2: talk some Cincinnati Bengals as well along the way, since

2055
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 2: he three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

2056
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 2: Welcome back, ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. As we

2057
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 2: roll along, I want to talk some Cincinnati Bengals in

2058
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 2: just a few minutes before we get to that Austin.

2059
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 2: I have to disagree with Keegan a little bit. I

2060
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:59,719
Speaker 2: don't think seven wins is a success for the Bearcats

2061
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 2: this year. I think getting to where they ultimately want

2062
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 2: to get to. I think that number starts at eight.

2063
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 2: I just I have a hard time buying back in

2064
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 2: to what was a collapse two years ago, what was

2065
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: a collapse down the stretch last year. I don't think

2066
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 2: six or seven does enough for the UC Bearcats. I

2067
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,520
Speaker 2: think they have to get to that eight win plateau.

2068
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 2: And I think if you just look around their schedule

2069
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 2: and you mix that in with the win totals that

2070
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 2: some of the other Big Twelve teams have. You look

2071
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 2: at the Big Twelve, it's a slew of teams that

2072
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 2: are scheduled right around six and a half seven and

2073
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 2: a half wins. They opened the season with Boston College,

2074
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: who didn't win a football game last year. They take

2075
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 2: on the Catamounts from Western Carolina in game two. Game

2076
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 2: three is the neutral site, the TQL Stadium game with

2077
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio, which I think is going to be

2078
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 2: a dogfight oddly enough, Austin. If you look at current

2079
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 2: ticket prices, the get in price for Miami UC is

2080
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: the second highest get in price of any game the

2081
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 2: Bearcats will play this year, BYU is currently the most

2082
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 2: expensive ticket price that's on the road. After that, when

2083
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 2: you look at win totals, I look at Kansas State.

2084
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 2: That's a home game for the Cincinnati Bearcats. Kansas State's

2085
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 2: win total this year seven and a half. After Kansas State,

2086
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 2: this team goes to Arizona Arizona's win total this year

2087
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve seven and a half. After that game,

2088
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 2: it's a road trip to West Virginia. Their win total

2089
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 2: five and a half, the exact same as the Cincinnati Bearcats.

2090
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Now after that, I think Texas Tech and homecoming is

2091
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: going to be a tough game for u SE. We've

2092
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 2: talked about that. We obviously know the Brendan Sowarsby side

2093
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 2: of things. They have U tah at home. Utah as

2094
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 2: a team projected at eight and a half wins right now,

2095
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 2: but after that Iowa State on the road again, not

2096
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 2: going to be an easy game, but Iowa States projected

2097
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:13,799
Speaker 2: five and a half wins. Colorado at home to finish

2098
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 2: off the home slate. Colorado's a team right now that

2099
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:18,559
Speaker 2: has projected four and a half wins, and then they

2100
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: finish on the road at BYU. So there's not a

2101
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:28,799
Speaker 2: team on the Bearcats schedule outside of Texas Tech projected

2102
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 2: with a win total higher of eight and a half.

2103
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 2: At some point under Scott Saderfield, this team has to

2104
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 2: make the lead. They've got to make a jump. And

2105
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 2: just saying six or seven wins is the threshold, I

2106
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 2: don't think that's enough. I think it's got to get

2107
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 2: to the eight and even more after that. That's where

2108
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 2: I sit with the Cincinnati Bearcats. I thought another interesting

2109
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 2: win total lostin was the Ohio State buck Guys. There

2110
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 2: over under is set at nine and a half. What

2111
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 2: do you think of the total of nine and a

2112
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 2: half for Ohio State?

2113
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds right to me.

2114
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 6: I mean, you lose your offensive coordinator. They just lose

2115
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 6: a ton, right, and they were an entirely different offense

2116
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 6: without him. And you know Arthur Smith, It's not like

2117
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 6: his offenses have really lit it up in the NFL,

2118
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 6: So there's some doubt about the offense and Ryan Day

2119
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 6: having his grubby paws all over it. And on top

2120
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 6: of that, I think there were foot close to fifty

2121
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 6: new players on the roster this year. They lost I

2122
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 6: think thirty one players in the transfer portal alone and

2123
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 6: went and had to replace those players, and then they

2124
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 6: lost a bunch of guys to the NFL. So that

2125
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 6: in and of itself is a lot to overcome. Sure,

2126
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 6: then you look at the schedule and you have a

2127
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 6: trip to Texas, who still has arch manning and is

2128
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 6: still going to be one of the top ten teams.

2129
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 6: In the country. You do have have a cross country

2130
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 6: trip to USC, which, even though USC is not that good,

2131
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 6: you still got to go all the way out there.

2132
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 6: And that's not something Ohio State has done very much

2133
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 6: because they've been pretty pretty much been the beneficiaries of

2134
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 6: the way the seasons have started in the Big Ten.

2135
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 6: With that expansion. They did go up to Oregon and

2136
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 6: they didn't play their cleanest game up there.

2137
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 3: Let's just put it that way.

2138
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 6: You have to go to Indiana, which is going to

2139
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 6: be just a complete madhouse for that game, and you

2140
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 6: also have Oregon coming to the shoe, Michigan coming Nebraska

2141
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 6: is no slouch like it. It's a difficult schedule for

2142
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 6: Ohio State this year, and I think because of the

2143
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 6: amount of turnover I think there's some and the players

2144
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 6: the teams on the schedule, nine and a half I

2145
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 6: think is a fair number.

2146
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 2: It's also you know obviously that right now the expectation

2147
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 2: in Columbus is different than here in Cincinnati. What is

2148
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 2: the expectation going into this year? Because you mention you

2149
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 2: lose a lot, you're filling a lot of holes. I

2150
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 2: mean sunny styles, RVL Reees, Caleb Downs not walking through

2151
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,680
Speaker 2: that door for the Ohio State defense, which was historically

2152
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: good last year, the other teams in the Big Ten

2153
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:17,360
Speaker 2: again Whittingham now at Michigan. What is what does Indiana

2154
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 2: have for the year right after the national title? What

2155
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 2: constitutes as a successful season for Ryan Day this year?

2156
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 6: Win the national championship. I mean, it doesn't change the expectation,

2157
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Speaker 6: and it doesn't it never changes. It's win the national championship.

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Speaker 6: Anything less is a disappointment. He needs to beat Michigan.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you can go ten and two, but if

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Speaker 6: in as long as you beat Michigan, that'll make people

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Speaker 6: feel good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I.

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Speaker 6: Think that at the very bare minimum, it's get back

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Speaker 6: to the College FOOTBA playoffs.

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Speaker 2: To say how much does the twelve team playoff aid

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Speaker 2: or maybe add more pressure because you probably don't have

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Speaker 2: to play in the Big Ten title game to even

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Speaker 2: make the college football playoff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know that that's really applicable.

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Speaker 6: I mean Ryan has said that in the past, whether

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01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 6: there's four teams, six teams, eighteen, sixteen teams, like, that's

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Speaker 6: the expectation regardless is to get there.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break when we come back, Let's switch gears.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Bengals if you missed it earlier.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals have made a couple moves to boost the

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Speaker 2: depth they've just secondary. Just made one of those signings official.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss that in the case to trade up on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station with.

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Speaker 3: iHeart everything you hear is guaranteed.

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Speaker 5: Hugh.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since e three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station, the official Bengals move Awtome. We mentioned

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Speaker 2: the depth that has been added today to the Cincinnati

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01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 2: Bengals secondary that has been made official with Hill.

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Speaker 6: Well, they've made two moves today. Tony j Justsir Taylor.

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Speaker 6: He has a corner that they signed earlier this morning,

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01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 6: previously with the Chargers and Jets more of a special

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01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 6: teams type of player. And then earlier today they signed

2189
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Speaker 6: unrestricted free agent safety Kyle Duggart to a one year contract.

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01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 6: He's six foot two, two hundred and sixteen pounds. A

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Speaker 6: seventh year player out of Lenore Rhyin. He was a

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Speaker 6: second round pick of the Patriots in twenty twenty. Played

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Speaker 6: eighty one games for the Pats. Was traded in October

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Speaker 6: of twenty five to Pittsburgh. He saw action in nine contests.

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Speaker 6: Ninety career regular season games, He's started seventy eight of them.

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Speaker 6: He has four hundred and fifty four tackles, two hundred

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Speaker 6: and seven or excuse me, twenty seven TFLs, four and

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Speaker 6: a half sacks, twenty nine passes defense to eleven picks,

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Speaker 6: three forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries, along with twenty nine tackles.

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Speaker 6: On special teams, He's made a couple of big plays

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Speaker 6: against the Bengals in recent years, most notably a pick

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Speaker 6: six against Joe Flacco last year.

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Speaker 3: How about that now?

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Speaker 2: The question that I have with the upcoming draft, and

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Speaker 2: we've done a lot of mock drafts here each Monday

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01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 2: on since he three sixty, the question I have kind

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01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: of falls into the term that I hear too often,

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01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 2: and you can relate to this with the Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 2: I think you can relate to it with a lot

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01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 2: of sports here locally. The term that gets thrown around

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01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 2: of that's just not what they do, and we hear

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01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 2: this all the time when talked about the Reds and

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01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 2: adding an outfield or adding a power batter, or that's

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01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:36,839
Speaker 2: just not what they do, and oftentimes if the idea

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Speaker 2: is ever brought up to move up in the draft,

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 2: it is met with immediately, well, that's just not what

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01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 2: the Bengals do. What would it take to do away

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01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 2: with that term for the Cincinnati Bengals. If Joe Burrow

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01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: saying this offseason is paramount, if that doesn't change the

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01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 2: thinking to say, you know what, I know it's not

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01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 2: we do, but screw it, it's something we need to do.

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Speaker 2: If not now, then when would that ever be applicable?

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Speaker 2: Because what I get to in the draft is we've

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01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 2: already talked ourselves into a corner from the time the

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01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 2: offseason started to now, it was a linebacker, interior defensive line,

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01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 2: edge rusher, And I feel like we just get so

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01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 2: caught up in the fact that where mock drafts fall

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01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 2: and how they're doing in reps, and in what the

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01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: situation on the roster looks like that now it's so

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01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 2: I think corner is their viable option at ten when

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01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 2: this team still needs an extreme boost at linebacker, they

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01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 2: need a boost at edge rusher, they need a boost

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01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 2: on the interior part of the defensive line. And I

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01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 2: know that you have to find the trade partner as well.

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01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 2: Tony Pauline has recently reported that the Browns are open

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01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 2: to trading down from pick number six. Now, it'd be

2237
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 2: very difficult to trade with the Browns because the Browns

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01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 2: aren't going to want to let an AFC North team

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01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 2: move up. But can you find a different team in

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Speaker 2: the top ten? Can you find the Tennessee Titans, the

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01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints, the Washington Commanders. Can you find a

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01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 2: team that would be willing to swap you picks and

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01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 2: you throw in a sixth or seventh rounder in order

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01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 2: to go get one of the dudes in the draft.

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Speaker 2: And by dudes, I think of Bailey Styles, Bain, Downs, Reese,

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01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 2: and I would even say Jeremiah Love, as crazy as

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01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 2: that sounds. And I know we're just feeding into what

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01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 2: James R. Pinot often talks about, but it feels like

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01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 2: the more mock drafts we see, the combination of those

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Speaker 2: players Bailey Styles, Bane Downs, Love, Reese are off the

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Speaker 2: board by the time number ten comes around, and so

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01:57:55,760 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 2: the next plausible ideas well you a corner or maybe

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01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 2: even opportunity to trade back. But I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: way this draft is lined up. I'm looking at who's

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Speaker 2: picking number nine, that's the Kansas City Chiefs. That's a team,

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Speaker 2: regardless of what they did last year. It's a team

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Speaker 2: that you're going to be competing with in the AFC.

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01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 2: It's still Patrick Mahomes, it's still Andy Reid. If the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are there at nine, and let's say Bane Styles

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Speaker 2: or maybe even RVL Reese are still on the board,

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Speaker 2: one of them at number eight, would this prompt the

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Speaker 2: Bengals to swap that pick at seven or eight with

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Speaker 2: whatever team it may be throwing a late round draft

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Speaker 2: pick and go get one of the premier players at

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Speaker 2: a premier position of need for the Bengals. I get

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Speaker 2: that the depth at corner is in question, but I

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Speaker 2: also think corner at least the starters is in better

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 2: shape right now than the linebacking unit and the defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Could anything prompt this team Austin regardless of the It's

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Speaker 2: just not what they do to go get one of

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Speaker 2: those players that can be a game changing player on

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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: I don't see them doing that. I think one of

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01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 6: the reasons for it is you would have to find

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Speaker 6: a partner that would agree to do it. All those

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01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 6: players are good and all those positions are premier positions.

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Speaker 6: Offensive tackle, defensive end. Like, the Commanders need to get

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01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 6: young and cheap, and they need playmakers. You're not gonna

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01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 6: the Browns aren't gonna trade with you. The Raiders aren't

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Speaker 6: gonna trade with you. What about the Saint The Chiefs

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01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 6: probably aren't gonna trade with you. Maybe the Saints will,

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Speaker 6: but that's a team that needs a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just looked at like seven and eight

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Speaker 2: with Washington and the Saints because can they move back

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Speaker 2: and can they move back through with three spots and

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Speaker 2: maybe fill their need of what they have while the

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Speaker 2: Bengals can fulfill theirs.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think a team like the Cardinals and

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Speaker 6: Titans might be more apt to do it just because

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Speaker 6: of the sheer amount of pieces that they need. And

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Speaker 6: they need more picks, but that's gonna cost you a

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Speaker 6: lot more. I think it would be, like right now,

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Speaker 6: harder than we think to move up.

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Speaker 3: Like right now. I'm not saying they shouldn't, but some of.

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Speaker 2: Them I'm looking up right now. The biggest team needs

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Speaker 2: as of today for New Orleans wide receiver, corner guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they could get a wide receiver at number ten. Probably

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Speaker 2: could get a corner at number ten, or they could

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Speaker 2: reach for one at number eight.

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Speaker 6: Maybe, but what if the Browns go with an offensive

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Speaker 6: lineman at number six? Sure, then they are the Saints

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Speaker 6: gonna move out from taking Carneal tape.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, I think one of the more interesting

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Speaker 2: dynamics and something that I've not and we've not seen

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Speaker 2: up to this point. They did a three round mock

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Speaker 2: draft with with Kuiper and and Matt Miller and Jordan

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Speaker 2: Reid with Field Yates, and they just took turns alternating picks.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how this unfolded. Mendoza Rhese Maui, nooah Bailey

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Speaker 2: love mackay Lemon to the Browns, and then the Commanders

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Speaker 2: take Caleb Downs, Saints take Sunny Styles and then in

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Speaker 2: this rendition, how about this, they have the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs taking Kenyon Sadik the tight end out of Oregon.

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Speaker 2: So then the Bengals get there at number ten, Matt

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Speaker 2: Miller makes the pick. Ruben Bain is on the board,

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Speaker 2: and he still goes mansor Delaney. That's where I would

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Speaker 2: have a a That's where I would draw the line

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Speaker 2: if ruben Bain's on the board, and they go corner,

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Speaker 2: then I would question what the idea would be. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I think I think moving up to number eight

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Speaker 2: should I think it should at least be in the

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Speaker 2: conversation and not just the it's not what they do category.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I agree that you should all always be in

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Speaker 6: the business of making your team better and be willing

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Speaker 6: to take risks in order to do that. I just

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Speaker 6: look at it through the lens of how they've operated

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Speaker 6: in the past and what that might tell us about

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Speaker 6: what they're thinking. There have been many times where we

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Speaker 6: have seen their evaluations of players and wondered, why is

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Speaker 6: that guy ranked so high. I think there's a world

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Speaker 6: where they have Mansor Delaine as the number one player

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Speaker 6: on their board, and I mean that and so if

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Speaker 6: that's the case, if that's the guy you want, if

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Speaker 6: you're the Bengals, and these are the conversations being had

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Speaker 6: the number one ranked player on your board is Mansord Delane,

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Speaker 6: they probably aren't gonna want to move right. If it's

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Speaker 6: you know, Spencer Fanu, or if it's Jermad McCoy, or

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Speaker 6: if it's but Ken Dylan Theedeman, they may not want

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Speaker 6: to move up because they feel like they don't have

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Speaker 6: to to get it. I'm not saying that's all right.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying I think that's the way they look

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Speaker 6: at it.

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Speaker 2: But do you view that and say, Okay, DJ Turner

2343
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Speaker 2: and Dax Hill are talented players. They have a slew

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Speaker 2: of issues at linebacker in the defensive line. Can you

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02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 2: can you justify a corner when you have holes all

2346
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Speaker 2: over the rest of the defense in front of that?

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Speaker 6: It's a different question asking me or asking you than

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Speaker 6: it is asking them, right, because in their minds, they're

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Speaker 6: drafting to replace one of those guys in the event

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Speaker 6: that they don't get them signed long term. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: they've done that with tackle, They've done that with wide receivers,

2352
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Speaker 6: they've done that with safeties. Like that is a trend. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: So to me, it makes it a much more realistic possibility.

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Speaker 6: We will take our final break of the afternoon. Mowegger

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Speaker 6: still help Ron Bins. Their highest rated guy would not

2356
02:03:55,800 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 6: be And I hope Al Golden is pounding the table saying, hey, yeah,

2357
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 6: this can change our defense.

2358
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Speaker 3: How about that?

2359
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Speaker 6: So let's move up to number seven. Yep, let's move

2360
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Speaker 6: up to number eight. I would just like that conversation

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Speaker 6: to be on the board.

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Speaker 3: I bet it, I bet it will be Yeah, who's

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Speaker 3: the one to make the decision? Bump bump bom.

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Speaker 2: Might be Moegar. He's in Indy for the Final Four.

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Speaker 2: I would trust Mo. Let's talk to him next on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's time for a quick hits on. Tony

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Speaker 1: Tykes Sincy three sixteen was looking for Mo.

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Speaker 3: We got Mo.

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Speaker 2: He's not in studio today, but we do have Mo

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Speaker 2: for the Moegar Show ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Mo, what's going on?

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Speaker 33: I'm sitting in a ballroom at a convention center in

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Speaker 33: Indianapolis and we're getting ready to broadcast from Radio Row

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Speaker 33: at the Final Four. Before we talk about that, could

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Speaker 33: I address something that was brought up during talkbacks please.

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Speaker 33: You were a talkbacker who asked would you rather skydive

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Speaker 33: or right on a air balloon?

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Speaker 3: And I'm never skydiving. No. I have ridden in a

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Speaker 3: hot air boro.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 33: My dad for I think his fiftieth birthday, fiftyeth fifty.

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Speaker 33: First he wanted to be in a hot air balloon

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Speaker 33: and we got him more and.

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Speaker 3: I said, you know, we got you.

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Speaker 33: I'm sorry there's a dude here asking me if I

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Speaker 33: want to interview the coach at Liberty, and I'm trying

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Speaker 33: to shoot him away. So my dad for his birthday,

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Speaker 33: we got him a hot air balloon because for years

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Speaker 33: that's all he talked about, I want to ride in

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Speaker 33: a hot air balloon. Like all right, man, fine, sure,

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Speaker 33: It never occurred to me he would want someone to

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Speaker 33: go with him. I became the person who had to

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Speaker 33: go with him. It is the most terrifying experience of

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Speaker 33: my life. You're just in this little basket thousands of

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Speaker 33: feet above the surface of the earth, and I literally

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Speaker 33: like duck down and hid because I couldn't look down.

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Speaker 3: Literally the most terrified. So no to the hot air balloon.

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Speaker 3: Is it like too? Is it is windy? You think

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Speaker 3: it would be there?

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Speaker 33: Yeah, it's it's and you're amazingly balanced, because I thought, like,

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Speaker 33: I'm just you're gonna have a hard time, Like, no,

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Speaker 33: you could. You could if you want to walk from

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Speaker 33: one end of the basket to the other. It's not

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Speaker 33: that long. This has been fourteen fifteen years. Actually it's

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Speaker 33: been more on that because my dad's been dead for

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Speaker 33: seventeen years, so this is like two thousand, I don't know,

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Speaker 33: two thousand and two, two thousand and three, somewhere in there.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it was awful.

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Speaker 33: And so I thought, like, the way that I could

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Speaker 33: end the freight is I could jump out of this thing.

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Speaker 3: That won't end well.

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Speaker 33: But no, with experience, no to the hot air balloon

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Speaker 33: comes out like in Bloomington, Indiana or something.

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Speaker 3: It was awful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're on radio row. You're not gonna be

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Speaker 2: talking to an assistant coach from Liberty. What are you

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Speaker 2: gonna be talking about today?

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Speaker 33: Well, I do have a special trade for Xavier fans.

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Speaker 33: Oh and this is probably gonna hurt me to do this. Oh,

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Speaker 33: but I'm gonna do it anyway because I believe in

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Speaker 33: serving the Trey Carroll is here.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and I'm going to talk with him, Okay, And I've.

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Speaker 33: Already made it known Trey. Make sure Trey knows he's

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Speaker 33: talking to a Bearcat fan.

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Speaker 3: That's right. But he's competing in the.

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Speaker 33: NABC All Star Game here this weekend, and so I'll

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Speaker 33: spend some time chatting with Trey. And uh, you know

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Speaker 33: this experience. What they do is they they bring you

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Speaker 33: like I at some point, I have an obligation to

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Speaker 33: interview somebody from Warner Ladder, which is the official ladder okay,

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Speaker 33: of the Final four and literally about twelve feet from

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Speaker 33: where I am is the ladder they will use to

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Speaker 33: have the winning team cut down the nets.

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Speaker 3: So that's going to be really exciting.

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Speaker 6: Do you want me to have up the ladder safety

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Speaker 6: PSA for you and play it for him and see

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Speaker 6: what he thinks that.

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Speaker 3: We could do that.

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Speaker 33: So they're they're wheeling some of these coaches through and

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Speaker 33: I've I've already said wheeling, looked yes to.

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Speaker 3: The coach at Yale. We'll see, so we'll see who

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Speaker 3: they give us. Who's the coaching Yale.

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Speaker 33: His name is James Jones. He's been there for twenty

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Speaker 33: six years. They won the IVY League title this year.

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Speaker 3: Not the James Jones that played for the Heat.

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Speaker 33: No, I don't think it's the same guy. Okay, I

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Speaker 33: don't think so, So we might talk with him. We

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Speaker 33: obviously have the Reds at three and three, and I

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02:08:13,960 --> 02:08:16,280
Speaker 33: think the difference between the Reds at four and two

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Speaker 33: versus three and three feels like more than one game.

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Speaker 3: It's a very top heavy lineup, which we have to

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Speaker 3: talk about.

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Speaker 33: I've heard you guys already we're already doing the well

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Speaker 33: Reese Hines and save it up, man, We're really we're

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Speaker 33: already right.

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Speaker 3: That stage of the season.

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Speaker 33: Ye, Austin is taking it and I'm sure an extreme

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Speaker 33: amount of perverse delight in Amelia Pegan struggles.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not true.

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Speaker 33: But more than anything, I am in love with the

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Speaker 33: ABS system. Jason Williams of The Inquirer doesn't like the

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Speaker 33: ABS system his column today. It's because it's apparently going

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Speaker 33: to be bad news for little league umpires.

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Speaker 6: Oh oh wow, okay, Jay, I get the honor of

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Speaker 6: working with him in about ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: I like, Jason.

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Speaker 33: I just I read that and I'm like, whoo, your

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Speaker 33: big takeaway is this is going to be bad for

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Speaker 33: umpires of nine and under baseball.

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Speaker 3: I love the ABS system.

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Speaker 33: We'll discuss and I am going to give the Bengals

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Speaker 33: the benefit of the doubt that they probably don't deserve

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Speaker 33: that and so much more.

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Speaker 6: Between now and six o'clock. Had you ever heard of

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Speaker 6: just Seer Taylor until today?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 33: No, but I want to call him just sir first

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Speaker 33: time he gets a pick, just sir, sir.

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Speaker 3: I could hear a horde already. Oh yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, would you rather have your your picture taken in

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Speaker 2: front of the clock at GABP or climbing the rung

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Speaker 2: of that ladder to cut down a net?

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Speaker 3: Well, that would be kind of cool to climb the ladder. Uh.

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Speaker 33: I've already had my picture taken in front of the

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Speaker 33: clock at GABP and that experience was fine. But the

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Speaker 33: experience of going up that ladder to cut down the net,

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Speaker 33: I think would be that would be better.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's definitely more dangerous than that. It is most

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Speaker 3: definitely more more dangerous. It is remarkable.

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Speaker 33: I went to the game yesterday with my kid, and

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Speaker 33: I went to the game Tuesday night with buddies, and

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Speaker 33: both nights, like walking in, there's a lot of people posing.

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Speaker 33: It has become a photo centerpiece, like families getting their

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Speaker 33: photo in front of the clock.

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Speaker 2: Yes, are you fully on board and trying to get

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Speaker 2: something done sooner rather than later? With South Stuart seeing

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Speaker 2: the trend around Major League Baseball, it's time to get

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Speaker 2: this done, correct.

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Speaker 3: I'm on board with it. Yeah.

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Speaker 33: I don't know why sal would be, but yeah I

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Speaker 33: would be. I would be more than on board with

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Speaker 33: doing with him what they did with Hunter Green and

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Speaker 33: then listening to people talk about how sal Stewart's overpaid

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Speaker 33: the first time he goes through like a one for

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Speaker 33: twelve stretch. But yeah, like it's happened throughout the sport,

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Speaker 33: and I think it's a smart thing, for smart thing

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Speaker 33: for teams to do. But you do you kind of

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Speaker 33: assume some risk with it, right, But I think sal

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Speaker 33: Stewart is a That's a risky bet that I would make.

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Speaker 33: I would love to lock him in under some sort

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Speaker 33: of cost control deal that basically guarantees that he's not

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Speaker 33: going to get massive pay raises even if his production

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Speaker 33: you know, goes up every single year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 33: Agents, Yes, without a doubt, but agents don't want their

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Speaker 33: players to do that for the most part. Would sal

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Speaker 33: Stewart's agent advise him against it? Would the Reds be

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Speaker 33: able to compel him to do it? You have to

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Speaker 33: do these things at times before the players really prove

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Speaker 33: and establish themselves, and again that comes with some risk.

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Speaker 33: But I think with sal Stewart, you want the three

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Speaker 33: of us have talked about this, Everything they've asked him

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Speaker 33: to do, he's done, so I would absolutely take that

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Speaker 33: risk on it.

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Speaker 6: The way I think about it, is, with Ellie being

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Speaker 6: the exception, because Ellie might get more money than just

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Speaker 6: about anybody we'll see. But if you ask Tyler Stevenson,

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Speaker 6: if you asked maybe Matt McClain, there were rumors of

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Speaker 6: negotiations with Nicolodolo as well. If you asked all those

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Speaker 6: guys if they could go back and take that deal

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Speaker 6: based off what's happened over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 6: I wonder if they're kicking.

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Speaker 3: Themselves at all.

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Speaker 33: I think with Matt McClain it's a very fair question

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Speaker 33: because that was the one where I think it was

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Speaker 33: talked about most them doing something with him long term.

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Speaker 33: Tyler Stevenson's interesting. He's almost unless you're getting into the

2539
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Speaker 33: April fools Tom foolery between him and Terry Francona. Yes,

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Speaker 33: kind of a forgotten guy and like not a bad player,

2541
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Speaker 33: but I just I thought at this stage in his.

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Speaker 3: Career he would be a little bit better.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, but yeah, he was a guy that was talked

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Speaker 33: about as somebody that you might lock in, you know,

2545
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Speaker 33: for another year or two post free agency, and you

2546
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,320
Speaker 33: do wonder from his perspective if he's thinking, man, I

2547
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Speaker 33: should have done something like that already.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go. Keegan Nickoson joined the show.

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Speaker 2: At the top of our number three, he said that

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Speaker 2: six wins would suffice to keep Scott Sadderfield around after

2551
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 2: this year. They're posted totals five and a half, so

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Speaker 2: that would be the over I disagree with that. Does

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Speaker 2: it take more than six for you to call this

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Speaker 2: upcoming football season to success?

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Speaker 33: Really interesting because last year he did what everybody said

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Speaker 33: he had to do and it didn't feel like enough.

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Speaker 33: So can he really go backwards from the standpoint of

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Speaker 33: public perception. I don't think the answer is yes, But

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Speaker 33: I think everybody within, meaning the folks at the school,

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Speaker 33: view this season as this is the start of the rebuild,

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Speaker 33: and uh, we don't really have a program identity right now,

2562
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:32,080
Speaker 33: there's no team identity right now, and so can we

2563
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Speaker 33: hold him to more than six victories? I'm going to

2564
02:13:35,560 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 33: guess if they get to six wins, he's probably the

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Speaker 33: head coach in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's going to be a really hard

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Speaker 3: sell on people.

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Speaker 33: And I heard you going through the games and it

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02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 33: was a pretty optimistic approach based on the schedule, But like,

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Speaker 33: what do we know they're going to be good at sure,

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Speaker 33: and you could say that about yes. I mean, what

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Speaker 33: do we know that they're going to be good at

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Speaker 33: And even if they get off to a fast start,

2574
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Speaker 33: what looms over?

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Speaker 3: I think he's what one in twelve in November.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, like that's not going away until it does, and

2577
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:08,120
Speaker 33: that's not going to go away until we get to November.

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Speaker 33: I think it's really interesting because he's not a very

2579
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 33: popular coach, but he did this past season what everybody

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Speaker 33: back in July said he had to do. Does that

2581
02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:20,640
Speaker 33: buy him more time from the school's perspective, I'm going

2582
02:14:20,680 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 33: to guess the answer is yes, unless this season is

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Speaker 33: a total disaster.

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Speaker 3: But you can't rule that out.

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Speaker 33: Because I don't think any of us know how good

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Speaker 33: or bad they're supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: Moe, have a great show, Man. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: You will thank you. Thanks Mo. The Mulager Show.

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Speaker 2: Is next right here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back again tomorrow, same time, same place. Have

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Speaker 2: a great rest of your Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Man, Trouble