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Speaker 1: I don't know how you found us, but I'm so

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Speaker 1: thankful that you did. It's John Jay and Rich.

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Speaker 2: So Valentine's Day. What a beautiful, beautiful day, What a

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Speaker 2: wonderful time, Angelena. We want to get into Valentine's Day

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Speaker 2: horror stories. I believe you have one.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have a nightmare one. That's true. So

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Speaker 3: we go to dinner and I had been with this

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Speaker 3: guy for a little over two years and he proposes,

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Speaker 3: and it's beautiful. It's like a really you know, gorgeous setting.

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Speaker 3: We get champagne, everybody's like cheering. It's a very sweet

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Speaker 3: Hallmark movie level moment. Obviously, I said yes, and I

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Speaker 3: start looking at my ring as he goes to put

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Speaker 3: it on my finger, and I'm like, oh, this does

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Speaker 3: not only looks familiar because we had looked at rings together, right,

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Speaker 3: like he knew what shape, I liked, what color band,

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Speaker 3: all of that, And I kind of wait for the

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Speaker 3: waiter to leave and making sure that it's just where

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Speaker 3: he and I could hear this conversation because I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to hurt his feelings, but I'm like, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: maybe like this ring doesn't really look familiar.

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Speaker 4: Where did you.

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Speaker 3: Get it because it doesn't look like any of the

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Speaker 3: places or the rings that we tried on, and that's

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Speaker 3: where things for her to go downhill quickly. The ring

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Speaker 3: was what he picked out for his ex that he

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Speaker 3: never proposed how yeah, And I genuinely was like, wow,

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Speaker 3: how do I get out of this restaurant before I

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Speaker 3: have a meltdown? Uh? So we had a conversation about

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Speaker 3: it afterwards, and unfortunately broke up because he did not see.

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Speaker 5: What was wrong.

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Speaker 3: Wow, broke understand why. He didn't understand why I was

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Speaker 3: upset that he re used a ring from another woman,

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Speaker 3: even though.

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Speaker 6: We went and looked it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we know what your side is, what's his side?

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Speaker 7: Just that I'm saving money, uh, kind of.

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Speaker 3: Saving money, but also like in his mind he had

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Speaker 3: picked out the ring already for the person who was

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Speaker 3: going to be his future wife, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you picked that out when you were with another woman,

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Speaker 3: And he was like, well, but I never actually proposed

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Speaker 3: to her. And I'm like, I wouldn't be okay with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, And I feel like you have to

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Speaker 2: give guys a little bit of like dumb credit, like

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Speaker 2: they're dumb, Like he's probably not looking at it through

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Speaker 2: that point.

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Speaker 1: Like, if you.

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Speaker 2: Truly truly love him and he truly truly loves you,

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Speaker 2: this is a bump you can get over.

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Speaker 1: Because guys are.

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Speaker 6: Seeing it, and he still doesn't get it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, yeah, a bag of rocks over here.

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Speaker 2: But if you truly truly love him, and you love

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Speaker 2: him and he's the guy for you and she's the

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Speaker 2: girl for you, this is a simple bump to get over.

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Speaker 1: I'm so stupid. I bought this ring a long time

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Speaker 1: of guy.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was a perfect there's just a guy

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't give me a ring he bought for another woman.

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Speaker 8: At the very least, go get the don't reset, you know.

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Speaker 8: And and I get not wanting to buy a whole

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Speaker 8: new rink because they're expensive, right, But somehow he could

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Speaker 8: try to put in some effort to make it just

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Speaker 7: And none of that was offered.

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying there's stuff that's obvious, but guys are stupid. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I feel bad for him. Like,

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Speaker 2: if you guys haven't spoken since then and it's been over,

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Speaker 2: then you clearly weren't meant for each other. Like if this,

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Speaker 2: if you guys were truly meant for each other, both

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Speaker 2: of you would fight to get over this time. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot bigger issues in marriage than this. So to me,

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Speaker 2: I think you guys would buy you know, maybe we

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Speaker 2: could debate over it. Eight seven seven ninety three seven

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Speaker 2: one four seven What do you guys? I'm sure all

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Speaker 8: To the reaction that I can get, Like, what was

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Speaker 3: It just was not responsive. Oh, you just haven't get it,

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Speaker 3: did not even understand why I was upset. And we'd

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Speaker 3: already looked at other rings together, like whole other rings.

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Speaker 7: That's weird too, because so here's what you think what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I've already got one picked out.

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Speaker 1: So if you that's how dummy is? You said said that?

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Speaker 1: So did you break up with him?

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Speaker 7: Or did he say I'm not buying a new ring?

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Speaker 1: This is it? Take it or leave it?

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Speaker 7: Who broke up with you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, the conversation went on for like two

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Speaker 5: At that point.

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Speaker 3: We were like, Okay, clearly, if you're not understanding why

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Speaker 3: I'm upset about this, what happens when something else, you know, bigger,

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Speaker 1: I agree, all right?

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you Angelina. That is a horror story on

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day for sure that he didn't expect. Well, thank

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Speaker 2: you for calling in Kenn. Thanks guys eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: nine three seven one oh four seven, Just you know,

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Speaker 2: what would you do? What are your thoughts on this whole?

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Speaker 2: Sinar So Brian, Hey, guys, have it going good?

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Speaker 1: What happened to you?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 5: I was seeing this girl for like a month or two,

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Speaker 5: and you know, Valentine's Day rolls around and I wake

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Speaker 5: up that morning to a really sweet Valentine's Day text

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Speaker 5: from her. You know, it's like the paragraph it's really sweet,

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Speaker 5: and I, you know, open up the text to respond

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Speaker 5: people start, a couple of other numbers are responding, like

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Speaker 5: what's this what's going on? And it's two other guys

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Speaker 5: she sent us all the same texts. So yeah, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: how do you do that?

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Speaker 1: Did she purposely do it? Was she like hey, guys,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just like can't believe she like

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Speaker 8: Maybe she was trying to introduce a quadruple, you know,

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Speaker 7: It's all means so much to me individually, but you

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Speaker 5: I mean, we haven't had the conversation, but like putting

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Speaker 2: Not well, she like, Okay, Brian, I'll see you from

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Speaker 2: six to eight and then Dave, I'll see you from

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Speaker 2: a thirty to nine thirty in carl.

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Speaker 1: Tonight's the big night.

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Speaker 2: I'm spending the night with you hafter Valentine's Day, all

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Speaker 2: three of you.

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Speaker 1: That's bad.

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Speaker 5: You know, looking back, it probably was like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, brother, thanks for calling it man, have

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Speaker 2: a great day, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: More from you next, John Jay and Rich Rich John

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Speaker 1: Jay Rich.

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Speaker 2: So Angelie gets proposed to, which is a great moment,

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Speaker 2: but the ring belonged to his x.

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Speaker 1: Sabrina, good morning. What are your thoughts of this ring situation?

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Speaker 4: Okay, good morning, good morning. So yeah, so my thoughts

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Speaker 4: on this is I just think it's dodgy you all

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Speaker 4: the way. I don't think it was very considerate of

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Speaker 4: him at all. I think what he should have done

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Speaker 4: was so his ex wife or his ex fiance wore

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Speaker 4: that ring and picked it out together with him at

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Speaker 4: a jewelry store. Right, There's probably something that she really

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Speaker 4: now he has a new beyance and he expects her

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Speaker 4: to wear the same exact ring even though she didn't

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Speaker 4: pick it out. It's the concept of it, Like he

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Speaker 4: her an old ring that he had purchased for a

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Speaker 4: different woman.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying, guys make super Guys are stupid, they

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Speaker 2: make mistakes. They're like, it's the meaning behind the ring

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Speaker 2: that who was for. I'm not excusing it.

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Speaker 8: But the meaning behind the ring was for someone else.

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Speaker 1: But guys are stupid. They don't know exactly.

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Speaker 8: Shouldn't be that he put up the brick wall.

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Speaker 7: At the very least when she said this is not

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Speaker 7: what I want, he could consider taking it back to

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Speaker 7: the jewelry store. Get in your you're going to get

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Speaker 7: most of your money back for the diamond. Then you

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Speaker 7: go pick out something else together.

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Speaker 4: But they broke out exactly he could have went to

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Speaker 4: a jewelry store, gotten the value of the ring, and

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Speaker 4: meant something to her. He didn't listen to what his

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Speaker 4: new fiance wanted at all. In fact, I bet she

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Speaker 4: showed him pictures and was excited about something that she

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Speaker 4: really liked, and then she ends up finding out that

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Speaker 4: he gave it to another woman previously. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was very suspicious, very it was just

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Speaker 4: it's not good. I think that what he should have done.

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Speaker 4: I don't know he should First of all, how did

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Speaker 4: she find out that he was engaged with another woman with.

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Speaker 5: That same ring?

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Speaker 7: He admitted to it because he didn't exactly, That's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: didn't thin geting was wrong.

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Speaker 2: He was stupid, hy Sabrina. I appreciate your comments, thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem, he's a good date.

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Speaker 1: By Sophie, your thoughts on this ring thing.

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Speaker 6: So you know, I think that she should really sit

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Speaker 6: Even though yes, the ring is just the ring, it's

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Speaker 6: the thought behind it. So she tells him, like a

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Speaker 6: when we look at this ring together, he thinks of

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Speaker 6: his ex. He thinks of his ex. You know they should.

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Speaker 6: He should really take her feelings into account and fail

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Speaker 6: that one and go buy a new one.

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Speaker 7: I even know, why did they go ring shopping together?

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Speaker 7: If he was playing on waste time?

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Speaker 1: That's the things.

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Speaker 8: That's where it's like, it's not that he was stupid,

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Speaker 8: it was he was.

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Speaker 1: Lazy, right, he was lazy.

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Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, we did, I took her shopping, but

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Speaker 8: I still have this ring, so I don't need to

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Speaker 8: go need to do anything.

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Speaker 5: We have.

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Speaker 1: Guys are stupid.

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Speaker 6: That's but she also really shouldn't make a big fuss

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Speaker 6: to just blow it off, like he doesn't want to

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Speaker 6: take responsibility for Yeah, I had this ring in the drawer.

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Speaker 6: I'm just going to give it to you because I

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Speaker 6: want to marry you. So it's the thought behind it.

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Speaker 6: He should really understand it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Here here's the taxa says. It says, get over it.

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Speaker 2: After you, guys break up, you both will pick other people,

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Speaker 2: do it again, and do it again.

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Speaker 1: So who cares? Go with him?

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Speaker 2: Traded in, Go with him when you do it, and

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Speaker 2: pick pick the ring you want. Most jewelers will take this.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that.

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Speaker 6: Yep, that's what they should do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let him know that it means maybe nothing to him,

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Speaker 2: but to you it does. Then together, sell the ring,

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Speaker 2: use that money towards when you both pick. These are

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Speaker 2: all good options.

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Speaker 1: They're good.

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Speaker 7: But he has to be open to that too, and

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Speaker 7: he just wasn't. He was like that guy was like, no, no,

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Speaker 7: I already got a ring. I paid for it. What's

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Speaker 7: the difference? And then he shut it down new ring?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I have a great day. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: calling in, Sophie.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Here's what Hannah says. My husband had an engagement ring

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Speaker 2: from his ex. He traded it in and bought the

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Speaker 2: perfect ring for when he proposed to me. Your fiance

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Speaker 2: definitely should not have given you the same ring. It's

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Speaker 2: not about the actual ring, it's the effort put forth

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Speaker 2: the love of my life proposed to me with a

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Speaker 2: wet sock. If the love of my life were opposed

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Speaker 2: to be with the wet sock, I'd be happy. The

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Speaker 2: ring is not that important. So many different points of

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Speaker 2: view on this thing.

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Speaker 3: I bet you if she was proposed to with a

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Speaker 3: wet sock, I bet you she would.

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Speaker 2: Have loved that.

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Speaker 1: But it's the fact that it's the exes ring.

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Speaker 8: What if it was the ex's wet sock, then that

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Speaker 8: would not be Okay, you'll put a.

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Speaker 1: Bow on this. There you go, all right, Happy Valentine today,

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Speaker 1: John Day Rich