1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I forgot to do the goddamn Buffco round up again. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Well I'm doing now. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll switch the Bucco round up to four o'clock, 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: even though well I was kind of a waste of 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: time because I think the Bucco audience is probably watching 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: the Buckos. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I'll reprise the Billy Cook. 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: Thing, the Jabbroni outfielder he got sent to Triple A 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: when Griffin got called up. Cook was the guy who 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: hoisted the cone. It leaves the void. I guess bring 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: Beck cuts to do that. I'm repeating exactly something I. 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Said a while back. But that's the Bucko round up 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: for Friday. 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Again, just to get a little more pirate tuck in 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: before they actually throw the first pitch. I've been talking 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: about how the Bucks need to go all in for 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: the next three years, this year and three more. The 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: overlap of schemes in Griffin, which I never thought would 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: be as long. 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: As it now has the potential to be. 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: But the question I want to ask you pointedly is 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: why do you trust Nutting? Why do you believe in Sharrington? 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Now those are good questions. I mean, what's going on 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: the Griffin contract, the spending to get Lao, etc. 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: In the offseason. 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: The trade to get Lao, I should say, then you 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: sign o'harne and Ozuna. It could be temporary appeasement and 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: not real ambition. But the Pirates have moved the goalposts. 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Let's see if they keep driving down the field working 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: in the favor of actual ambition. Is there's going to 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: be an attendance spike this year, what with Griffin coming. 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Barna collapsed by the Pirates in April and May, which means. 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: A revenue spike. 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Revenue drives nuttings bus Griffin, cash Cow March tickets. He 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: will turn out to be a bargain at the price 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: of that long term deal that nine years, one hundred 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: and forty million. And even though Griffin's an expensive date 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: by Bucko standards, if he turns out to be like 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: I said, if he lives up to his billing, even 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: most of his billing, even some of his billing, especially 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: initially like I said at cash Cow. But I'm still skeptical. 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Not in his own the Pirates owns owns. He's owned 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the Pirates is two thousand and seven. 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Am I supposed to believe that he suddenly wants to 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: win now one motivation might be nothing, might be embarrassed 46 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: by wasting schemes because doing so to this point, these 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: last two years, wasting schemes has been something ridicule, considered 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: to be incredulous. Continuing it would be even more so. 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean the guys that once in a lifetime pitcher 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: and he went seventeen and fifteen in games he started 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: last year. 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Once in a lifetime. 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: But that's what they said about David Byrr. I do 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: think the Pirates are poised to win, but not as is, 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: and like I said said, the next big test will 56 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: be the trade deadline. 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: Do you add. 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: Or do you get rid of Brandon Lyle for prospects 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: because his contract's expiring, And that is the BUCO round up. 60 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: For Friday. 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: You're introducing Brian Giles. Looks like he's off the gas, 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: which he was back then. I guess Kendall's up next. 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Jiles was only here for like five years. They're introducing 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: him like a conquering hero. How long was Kendall here? 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Kendall gutt boy? Was Kendall a right place, right time 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: type of guy? And here he comes because Kendall, they 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: just opened the park and they had to keep somebody, 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: which means they had to pay somebody, and it was 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: Kendall and he got a big, big deal. 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: He was with the Pirates for eight years, a little 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: bit longer. 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: It's funny because those guys are being perceived now as 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: these old timey heroes. But I wouldn't say they were 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: the best guys in the clubhouse. Back then, they would 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: talk to new players by introduce themselves by saying, welcome 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: to Hell. 77 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: And that was a group that really hazed rookies. 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: Mike Williams, the relief pitcher, Ed Sprague, the third baseman 79 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: who was here briefly, and uh and uh Jack Wilson, boy, 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: he was a rook and he got mad and it 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: nearly came to blows. 82 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: And Jack was a good guy. I like Kendall too, 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: He's been on the show. It's just that was a. 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: Weird mix, those two Giles and Kendall as leaders back then. Okay, 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 2: now they haven't thrown out the first they haven't thrown 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: the first pitch yet. But the cruise shave off as dreadlocks. 87 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: When did he do that? That's something I missed, No 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: dreads on cruise. They just showed O'Hearn. I'm a big 89 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: o'hearne fan already. He is a professional hitter boy, just 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: a really he reminds me of a little of Sean Casey. 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: I should have said that when case was on earlier. 92 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: He is just a really technically proficient hitter who just 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: makes great decisions up there. That's my take on him 94 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: so far. And you know why he's so technically proficient. 95 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: The Pirates didn't develop him. Somebody else did. Okay, Penguins, 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: did you see the game last night? Six' three loss 97 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: To tampa once? Again too many goals Allot AND i 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: hate That i'm talking about the goaltending all the, time 99 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: BUT i think that's the biggest. 100 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: DEFICIENCY i think team defense could be. 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: BETTER i think they could be more, organized especially in 102 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: the neutral. Zone last, Night tampa scored a couple of 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: goals when they got extremely easy zone. Entries and that's 104 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: how you can tell a team doesn't have a good structure. 105 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: Defensively never mind what they do when the pucks across 106 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: the blue line for the other. Team pay attention to 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: what they do entering the. Zone how easy is it isn't? 108 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: Contested do they get repelled? There do they turn it? 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: Over? 110 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: There is the play turned around there often, enough and 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: last night the answers to those questions were. 112 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: No, no and. 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: NO i am concerned About, sid who doesn't look like 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: he's a hundred. Percent and a caller earlier made a 115 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: good point the minute they clinched the, Playoff sid shouldn't 116 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: play till the playoffs start the minute they clinched the. 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: Playoffs BUT i don't. Know it's the big thing is 118 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: you want to finish top three in the. Division and 119 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: The fires lost last. Night they're dropping. Back columbus has 120 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: lost five in a. Row they're dropping. Back so it 121 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: may turn out to be what we thought it would 122 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: be before the season, started which will be that both 123 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: wild cards come from The. Atlantic so all the pet 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: was best bet is to finish second or, third the 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: metro always has. Been and, now LIKE i, Said columbus 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: losing five in a, row and, boy it goes to 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: show The pens have been up and, down up. 128 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: And, down up and. 129 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: Down But, columbus it goes to show they looked like 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: the hottest team in. 131 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Hockey now they've lost five in a. 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: Row ain't nobody among any of The eastern teams Besides Tampa, 133 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: bay Maybe buffalo Maybe, carolina but below those three for, sure. 134 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody all that? 135 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: Good so your thoughts on The penguins game last, NIGHT 136 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: i played Some steelers song Before Chris sims talking about 137 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: how how nothing bad that happened Was tomlin's, fault AND 138 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 2: i actually SOUND i didn't play Rich eyes and talking 139 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: about The Kirk cousins. Thing we talked yesterday at length 140 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: about what a great Businessman Kirk cousins. Is nobody seems 141 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: worried That rogers might doublecross The. Steelers nobody seems worried 142 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: at all about. That Like cabali De, fabo De faba's 143 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: usually the voice of cynicism among The steelers beat, writers 144 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: he's not under the. Tent he don't seem. Worried then, 145 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: again Like i'm not worried BECAUSE i don't. Care But 146 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: rogers has made them wait so. LONG i remember last 147 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: year when he made him wait that, long and then 148 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: after this past, season everybody, said, well they'll never have 149 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: to wait that long this, year and here they are 150 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: waiting just as. 151 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: Long it just it makes The steelers look so. 152 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: Bad but LIKE i said, earlier you look at The 153 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: pirates with His griffin, signing and they have a decent team, 154 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: finally and might have a good three four years ahead 155 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: of them With skins And. Griffin you look at The, 156 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: penguins whose plan is very visibly. WORKING i challenge Any 157 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: steeler fan out there now eight three three four one 158 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: TWO wsx tell me what their plan. Is tell me 159 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: what The steelers' plan. Is, seriously you, can't cause they're. 160 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: Ain't all they care about is winning the next. Game 161 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: and that's Why Grandpa Game manager is just making the 162 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: logo into his bitch because they think he's the best bet. 163 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: To Win week. 164 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: One and that's all there is any hoodles eight three 165 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: three four one TWO. Wxdx we Got Seth rowerbau talking 166 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: hockey at the bottom of the. 167 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Hour you're listening to one oh. Five now Get. 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do alternate reality play by play when you, 169 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: know if we're on the air at the, time not 170 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: as a commercial or talking to a, guest alternate reality 171 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: PLAY i by play On Connor griffins first that, back 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: which technically may be violating copy, right But i'm sixty. 173 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: Five sue me And i'm, indemnified so sue. iHeart i'm 174 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: gonna call right. Now eight three three four one TWO 175 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: wxdx Seth rowaba will join me to talk hockey at 176 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: the bottom of the. Hour, yeah there's still empty seats AT. 177 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: Pnc in THE. Nfl what a bunch of. Douchebags they 178 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: got streets, closed they got parking lots, closed and it's 179 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: still how many weeks before the. Draft THE nfl has 180 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: too much. Power yeah, STILL i mean not a. Ton 181 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: but when they Honored mazarowski and some of the other 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: great pirates who had, passed Like Yelroy face And Dave, 183 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Justy Dave justy in my, wheelhouse just like maz WHEN 184 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: i was a, kid as the, closer him and him 185 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: And Ramon hernandez did a righty lefty Thing justy Righty 186 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: hernandez lefty with the seventy One world Champion pirates. TEAM 187 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: a lot of empty seats for, that and even some more. 188 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: Now but if you can't get, in you can't help. 189 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: It and obviously the game sold. Out, uh let's. 190 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: Go To Heidi hi to your own with DOUBLE M, Hi. 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: MARK i was just wondering if you were A turgles last. 192 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: Night so you think that's something interesting to talk. 193 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: About, NO i. Wasn't thanks for the. CALL i do 194 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: better eight, three, three four one two. Wxdx what was 195 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: it turgles last? Night MAYBE i should have, Gone uh, 196 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: yeah The penguins. Game let's talk some more about. That, 197 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: NO i shouldn't have gone BECAUSE i was At Pittsburgh 198 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: brewing for A penguin's watch. 199 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Party, boy was that a lot of. Fun you know? 200 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: What my biggest. 201 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: Accomplishment under the auspices Of awaken one eightying having. LOST 202 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: i didn't weigh myself, lately But i'm over sixty pounds 203 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: lost now is WHEN i go to those viewing parties 204 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: At Pittsburgh. 205 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Brewing they don't have. 206 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: Food on seale. There they have a few minor. Things 207 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: they have chips and popcorn and great. Popcorn BUT i 208 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: just people bring pizzas and, nachos they bring stuff. 209 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: In it's bring your own, food and everybody offers me. 210 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: Everything and last NIGHT i turned down everything at ate 211 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: a chicken SALAD i had picked up at my favorite 212 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: place in the, world The John Eagle express In. Harmerville but, 213 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: anyway there were just THINGS i didn't like about The penguin. 214 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: Game i'm not. 215 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: Panicking there's still four points safe in the playoff. Spot 216 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: there's still said to be ninety seven percent certain of making. 217 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: It it would take an utter collapse on their. Part 218 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: they're playing a team this, weekend two games in a 219 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: row at, home which is. Odd but they're Playing fourida 220 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: twice Defending Stanley cup CHAMP i, know but they're in last, 221 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: place they're beat, up and they're in the. 222 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Tank the games that worry me a. 223 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: LOT i hope there's nothing to play for by the 224 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: time they Play washington home and home one week from this, 225 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: weekend Because washington would love to spoil The penguins party 226 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: as the longtime, rival even though they're out of. 227 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: It BUT i didn't like the. 228 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: Goaltending i'm just not going to AND i bet when 229 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: they lose in the first round that the goaltender will 230 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: be at. Fault if they, DO i think they'd Be 231 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: columbus even with the goaltending because theirs is no. Better 232 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: and AGAIN i, EMPHASIZE i Know i'm harping on the 233 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: goaltending a lot BECAUSE i Think morishoff should be. 234 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: Here BUT i don't Think skinner And shiloff. 235 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: STINK i just don't think they're good enough to win playoff, 236 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: series not least playing in front of a team that 237 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: has shall we say inconsistent performance in front of. Them 238 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: SO i don't like the. Goaltending The stars aren't playing, 239 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: well SID i don't think it's one hundred. 240 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: Percent gino hasn't done much since he came. 241 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: Back and the thing that upset me the most last, 242 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: night The penguins played real good in the first, period 243 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: fell down one. Nil raquel scored to tie it, up 244 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: uh Carlom off freudian. Slip chinakov scored to make it 245 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: two to One, pittsburgh and then they took their foot 246 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: off the. Guest they visibly. Decelerated that was. Odd but 247 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: then maybe they're just. Tired they just they've won Three 248 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: they won the three games recently they had to, win 249 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: which Was, ottawa The, islanders And. Detroit they had to 250 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: win those, games and they, did including two of those 251 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: on the. Road maybe last night was a mental. BREAK 252 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: i don't. KNOW i just didn't see the INTENSITY i 253 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: would like to, see AND i didn't see the GOALTENDING 254 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: i would like to. See And i'm, sorry but there's 255 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: almost no WAY i can stop talking about. That LIKE i, 256 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: said we've Got Seth rooraba from the trip talking hockey 257 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: just around the corner right. 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Couple i'm in the next time 276 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: to talk Some. Penguins i'm joined now By Seth Rawa 277 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: ba who covers the team for the. Trip seth was 278 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: last night At, tampa that six to three. Loss was 279 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: it just a bad game or did The penguins kind 280 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: of take their foot off the. GAS i thought they 281 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: noticeably decelerated after the first. 282 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: Period probably a combination of. BOTH i, mean let's not 283 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 4: Forget tampa based probably one of the, deeper better teams 284 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: in THE, Nhl so that's probably the wrong opponent to, 285 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: ever you, know take take your foot off the gas. 286 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: Against and you, know let's not short change in and 287 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: there's a lot of talent. There they can exploit your, 288 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: mistakes and The penguins made plenty of mistakes that could be. 289 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: Exploded so also, too you, know as you've mentioned, repeatedly you, 290 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: know for several weeks here on the goaltending is maybe an. 291 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: Issue the reality is that probably most games The penguins 292 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: will play for the rest of the season and going 293 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: into the, postseason they're probably going to have the second 294 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: best goaltender on the. Ice i'm not Sure Stuart skinner 295 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: had his best game by any stretch the. Imagination and, 296 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: again you play a team Like tampa to, day they're 297 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: gonna exploit those. Weaknesses but, NO i think The penguins 298 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: that did more than enough to earn that. 299 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 5: Loss last, Night. 300 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: China koff scored a couple of. Goals he's just a. 301 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: Rocket do you like? Him On sid's? Line pros and? 302 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Cons did that switch? 303 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: ROOM i, mean the imagination goes in so many places 304 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: as to where he could he could what he could 305 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: do On Sidney crosby's. Line you, Know Sidney crosby, obviously 306 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: you know fantastic talent can set up any even the 307 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: pedestrian players over the years and be twenty goal. Scorers 308 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: what what someone Like Eve Gertina koff. 309 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 5: Can do with? 310 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: Him it's, it there's probably no. Limit the downside of that, 311 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: is do you disperse your death properly when you do? 312 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: That you, KNOW i know it hasn't been doing much, 313 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: lately but you, know you do you basically take away 314 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: your second, line which at the time was you Know, 315 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: Mulkan novak and chinakof do you basically make that second 316 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: line newton as maybe to a trickle down effect the 317 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: third line as? Well so h part of that's. 318 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: For telvit's center, too isn't it the necessity for? That 319 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: then again you move no back to the. Wings SO i, mean, 320 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean you've got a good, point like you've 321 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: eliminated a great. Line then, again how great line had 322 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: that line been playing given novak struggles. 323 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: Lately, yeah that line and as Well malkins seemed to 324 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: have tailed off here a little bit. HERE i, mean he's, 325 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: clearly you, know a diminished player really Since, december ever 326 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: since he suffered an initial, injury that the bluff shoulder. 327 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: Injury so there's not a good reason to keep that line. 328 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: TOGETHER i would say the main reason, though to maybe 329 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 4: Keep chinakov off the line With Sydney crosby is you want, 330 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: to you, know spread your your depths across you, know 331 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: as many lines as possible if you get into a 332 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: playoff series and when you're playing With coltennting THAT'S i 333 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 4: don't say it's, unreliable. 334 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 5: But it can be. 335 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: Leaky sometimes you can compensate for that some way and 336 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 4: by having depth spread out across your. 337 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 5: Lineup is sit. 338 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: On he doesn't look like it and certainly he's not 339 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: doing a. 340 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 4: Lot sure doesn't look like, it and he's been Very 341 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: he and the team have been pretty, uh you, Know 342 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: kurt in terms of any descriptions as far as what 343 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: he's been dealing with when he missed, that you, know 344 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 4: recent game last. Week you, KNOW i asked him if 345 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: it was related to the injury he stuff from The, olympics 346 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: and he just didn't want to answer. It, uh you, know, 347 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: again he doesn't look quite look like you, know what 348 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: he looked like even before The. 349 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 5: Olympics and, uh you know, AGAIN i don't know. 350 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: If maybe just the reality of him being thirty eight 351 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: and you, know going through a grinder of an eighty 352 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: two game season that can, compressed you, know because of 353 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 4: The olympics as, well you, know what he dealt with 354 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 4: in The olympics with his. Injury maybe there's just reality 355 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: of things. There but you, know it's certainly just based 356 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: on the eye. Test City crosby doesn't quite look like 357 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: the player he was saved the Sebag january going into The. 358 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: Olympics so if the peng was hard to have any 359 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: sort of success meaningful in the, postseason they'll need a 360 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: little bit more from, him at least in terms of. 361 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 4: Production and that's if it helps weighing him down a 362 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: little bit, there that could be a. 363 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: Problem, YEAH i think we'll. Know, oh if they clinch 364 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: and he keeps. Playing if they clinch and he keeps, 365 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: playing you, know in games that don't mean anything before the, 366 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: playoffs then we'll know he's he's not. 367 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Hurt but BUT i have a hunch that the minute they, 368 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: clinch he. 369 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: SITS i, MEAN i almost wonder if they would do 370 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 4: that have With malkin, too just give him what he's 371 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: gone through this. Season but The Sydney cris is a 372 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 4: guy that you, know he's somewhat notorious that if he's 373 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: not one hundred percent and if there's, nothing you, know 374 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: too important on the, line like let's, say you, know 375 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 4: game seven of a series or, whatever he'll pull himself 376 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 4: out and arrest, himself just get his body. Right but, 377 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: really if it pertains to his, skating if his he 378 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: doesn't think his skating's right. 379 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 5: And he can't keep up beflow of the, game he's. 380 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: Not afraid to kind of you, know pull the shoot 381 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: there and sit for the benefit of the greater. Goods so, 382 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: yeah if they get THAT x next to their name 383 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: and they're not too worried about the, seating whether they're 384 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: the two or the three seats in the, metro you, 385 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 4: know maybe we'll see that if they were to maybe 386 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: dip down to the wild, card if there's a risk 387 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: of dipping to the wild card or even missing the playoffs. 388 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 4: Totally Maybe sydney car you, know grinds or. Whatever he's 389 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 4: grinding through, there but they get that extra next to their, 390 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 4: name they may have to make a decision right. 391 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: THERE a lot of things. 392 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: To say about the. Goaltending it's frustrating me once again last. 393 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: Night too many goals and a few chintzy. Ones BUT 394 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: i Guess skinner's got to be the. Guy give, me 395 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: give me your front page on the, goaltending BECAUSE i 396 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: just don't think it could win playoff. 397 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: SERIES I i think it could Be. 398 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: COLUMBUS i don't Think skinner beats uh Say sorokan from 399 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: The islanders in a. 400 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: Series of the teams that are that are in a 401 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: playoff position right, NOW i, MEAN i would there say 402 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 4: The Blue jackets and The Buffalo savers the only two 403 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: teams In Eastern conference that might have lesser goaltending than 404 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh. 405 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 5: Penguins. Uh you, Know i'm not, saying you, Know skinner 406 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 5: and she lost aren't adequate in terms of getting to the. 407 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 5: Playoffs but if you can do a. 408 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 4: Seven game series and you know you're gonna get steal 409 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: your sorok and you're gonna make a clear. Deficit AND 410 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 4: i know The penguins pung seven on thro uh you 411 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 4: know a few games. Ago but that's that's a very 412 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: rare exception. There you, know goltending generally is the difference 413 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: in the play, offs and that's regardless of its aven't 414 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: a trophy winner or someone just kind of comes out 415 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 4: of nowhere and you, know gets hot for a series or. Two, 416 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: uh The penguins are gonna probably have to overcome you, 417 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: know what's going to be a clear deficit in any 418 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: series they. Play you, know, again with a few, exceptions 419 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: but if for the most part of the last tear 420 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: and full, weeks they've probably had the second best goalten 421 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: in any game they've. Played there's been good, moments you, 422 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: KNOW i, thought you, Know Stewart skinner played out standing 423 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: Against detroit and made some some really key saves there 424 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 4: that that kept them comfortably in the lead in that. 425 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 5: Game but. 426 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: Then you have games like last night where he just 427 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 4: looks very leaky against against the admittedly the poorest, defense 428 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 4: tons of. Efforts so that's just gonna be the reality 429 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: for what The penguins is. Go, uh the face going 430 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 4: into the postseason, here they're probably gonna have the second 431 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: best goaltender in that game that, series and they're gonna 432 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: need some efforts elsewhere in their lineup to overcome. 433 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: Them we're talking to Seth rawbo of The trip here 434 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: on The Mark Madden. Show. Set The penguins can still blow, 435 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: it can? 436 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: THEY i, mean when they Beat ottawa The islanders In, 437 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: DETROIT I i thought that prety much wrapped it. Up 438 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: somebody printed that they're ninety seven in but nonetheless they're 439 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: just four points safe with with six games. LEFT i, 440 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: mean it's very. 441 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: CAPABLE i, mean you, know they just played, tonight so 442 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: they can very easily make up two points out of 443 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: the three point deficit they have for second place in. 444 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 4: Division and AND i Know florida is coming in here 445 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 4: for these two games this, weekend and you know they're 446 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: out of. 447 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 5: It they have nothing to play for. 448 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: It BUT i mean, they you, know put some a 449 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: wrench into the plans of The senators in The Boston. 450 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 4: Bruins the past two games went against those. 451 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 5: Teams that team's so full of. 452 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 4: Jerks and that's a very light LANGUAGE i would use 453 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: to describe The Florida panthers they're so full of. JERKS 454 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 4: i think you know we're ruining someone else's postseason plans 455 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: is something that gives them. Motivation so, NO i MEAN 456 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: i it would be, difficult maybe from a mathematical, standpoint 457 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: for them to blow it, here BUT i think it's 458 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 4: very easy just giving some of their. Limitations, AGAIN i 459 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 4: hate to keep harping on the, goaltending but just give 460 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 4: the some of their limitations in various areas for them 461 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: to maybe lose two or three in a row here 462 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: and really maybe put their postseason hopes that legitimate. 463 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: Risk, YEAH i don't see them blowing, it BUT i 464 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: agree with you about the challenge That florida might offer 465 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: because they're. Dinks they do have a lot of guy, 466 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: hurt a lot of guys, hurt AND i think they're 467 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: tanking for a draft picking. Boy what if they Got 468 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: gavin mckenni, Somehow Because florida is going to be real 469 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: good again next year when they heal up and rest. 470 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: Up but even if they get two points this, weekend 471 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: LIKE i, SAID i it's tough to imagine them not 472 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: making it Set and you mentioned The, islanders But columbus is. 473 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: Collapsing they were the hottest team for how long and 474 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: now they've lost five in a. 475 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: Row, yeah they really seem to it gets a boost 476 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 4: out of the coaching change there When Rick bonus love 477 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 4: over and you. 478 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 5: THINK i talkto what it might be last a month or. 479 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 4: So maybe it would dissipate when The olympics came around 480 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: and kind of reset everything for. Everyone but they kept on, 481 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: going at least until. Recently SO i don't. KNOW i 482 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 4: just a matter of you, know the limitations of their 483 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: roster have maybe kind of caught up to. 484 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 5: Them you, know maybe. 485 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: INJURIES i FRANKLY i don't that's the one THING i 486 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: think might have inferior goaltending to The penguin out of 487 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: The Eastern conference would be hopefuls. Here so the combo Of, 488 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: Elvisners leakins And Jack greeves it doesn't, exactly you, know 489 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 4: steal much fear in terms of the closing. Shooters but 490 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: that's a team THAT i, again even regards to the coaching, 491 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: Change i'm not quite sure that there they were a 492 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: team that everyone looked at soh' at the playoff. CONTENDER i, 493 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 4: mean they still had some some players. THERE i think 494 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: they were still. Developing maybe maybe there was a team 495 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 4: for whatever plan they had in place was maybe a 496 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: year away from from really getting. 497 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 5: THERE i plought them for. 498 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: Going out in the trade deadline and adding a few 499 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: pieces here and, there but, AGAIN i just don't know 500 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: that they necessarily had the talent that really make a 501 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: legitimate push over the course of an compacted eighty two game. 502 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 4: Schedule and, AGAIN i think their goaltending really is maybe 503 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: kind of done them in here a little bit of 504 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: here as of, late and that's why they're maybe fading 505 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 4: a bit here in the final week of the. 506 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: Season, see that's the, team AND i don't think it'll. 507 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: Happen i'd love to Play columbus in the first round 508 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think that's the one team The penguins might 509 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: play in the first round where they at least be 510 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: even with, goaltending or maybe you even have a slight. 511 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: Edge, yeah LIKE i, said you, Know Mrs leakings And Grease. 512 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: MERSELEAKENS i mean he's been the would be franchise goalie 513 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: for however many years there that was only that they 514 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 4: claimed it was gave them comfort and allowing. Start Gave 515 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: Bob roski to walk a few ways a few years 516 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: ago as a cre, agent and you, know whatever he's 517 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: supposed to, be he's still not. It And Jack graves 518 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: a kind of a mid level draft, pick a guy 519 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 4: has shown some some flashes here and. There uh just 520 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: but you, Know i'm sorry he was actually. Undrafted pardon, 521 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: me but he's guy that you, know shown some flashes 522 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: year and he's. 523 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: Made the most of what he. 524 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: Has BUT i, AGAIN i don't see a franchise, goalie 525 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: a number one goalie out of that mix. There and 526 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: you say what you will about the limitations Of skinner 527 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 4: and and And Archer sea, lost but you, know each 528 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: of them at least one playoff series in THE. Nhl you, 529 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 4: Know swart skinnersman in the last Two Stanley cup, finals 530 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 4: she lost a kind of somewhat, famously you, know took 531 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: The Vancouver connect to the second round a few years, 532 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 4: back won The Calder cup last. 533 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: Year forever that. 534 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 4: Sport so, no if you're going to get a match 535 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 4: up in the first round, Here columbus might be, optimal 536 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 4: just based on how the goaltending depth shakes out for both. 537 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: Organizations what's your take on Solder Bloom at six foot, 538 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: eight he's a unique challenge for other teams and he's 539 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: come up as unexpectedly physically physical and, tough not least 540 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: because he beat the crap out of That mayfield guy 541 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: in The islanders. 542 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: Game, yeah when The Red wings were in town here 543 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: a few nights, AGO i was talking to some of 544 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: the media there and they were, like who is this? 545 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 5: Guy they, said what he was doing in that, game 546 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: and what they the highlights they saw. 547 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: From The islander game was really nothing that he ever 548 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: really displayed consistently In. Detroit AND i don't know if 549 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 4: that's just based on How detroit has traditionally played or 550 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: been coached to be more of a skillfulness, team and 551 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: maybe at a six foot eight t hundred and fifty 552 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 4: two pound guy maybe doesn't sit in there quite as, 553 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 4: well even if He's swedish and there's been so Many 554 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: swedes that's come Through. Detroit but really what he's done 555 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: in the short sample size here with The Pittsburgh penguins 556 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: has really been different from what he ever offered In. 557 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: Detroit so and you, know be being put on that 558 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 4: fourth line there in place Of blake was lot essentially you, 559 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 4: know playing that style that The connor door and No 560 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: old chari have. Employed maybe just kind of drug him 561 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: into the. Fight you, know you see some of the 562 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: goals he's helped. GENERATE i, mean just goes to the 563 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: net and creates havoc by being such a large human 564 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: and not necessarily just overly, aggressive but he's a problem 565 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 4: for opposing defenseman to to kind of clear out or 566 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 4: move or the. Gate AND i think that, allows you, 567 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 4: know create some space or just opportunities for guys like 568 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: door in a try to clean up some of those, 569 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 4: chunky little garbage rebound, goals and then you had the physical. Element, 570 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 4: obviously he Rattled Scott mayfield quite a bit in that, 571 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: fight and that was his first career of. Fight so 572 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 4: maybe it's just a classic case of him given an 573 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: opportunity here that he can Get detroit and being used 574 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: a way that he wasn't Using. Detroit and that's kind 575 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: of been a common theme here with a lot of 576 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: the guys that the thing was put in the line 577 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: up this, year whether it's Justin brazil Or Parker. Wotherspoon you, 578 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: know maybe is just the most recent case of. 579 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: THAT i think, though when everyone's, healthy like When lazat comes, 580 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: Back solder bloms of don't you, FIGURE i know they're 581 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: not happy With Tommy, Novak BUT i look At Solder, Bloom, 582 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: Lazotte doer and A chari all the fourth line, guys 583 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: and that's all they are is fourth line. GUYS i 584 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: couldn't elevate one of them to the top, nine let 585 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: alone the top. 586 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 5: Six and then those three guys there's a lot of Charity. 587 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 5: DOER i, mean they're they're kind of a package deal. 588 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: TOGETHER i don't necessarily see them developing the same chemistry 589 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 4: if you, know if you stuck them on the third 590 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: line with With Ben kenda Or Ricard raquel's the center 591 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: or what have. You SO i think you have to 592 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 4: kind of keep that trio together to get. 593 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 5: The most out of. Them and If Elmer soderblum's a. 594 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: Healthy, scratch so be. It that's a wonderful luxury to. 595 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: Have that was kind of what they maybe were hoping 596 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: for when they brought them in, here just to add 597 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: some depth to their. Organization AND i, mean if you 598 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: want to have a lengthy playoff, running And i'm not 599 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: certainly not prognosticating anything was going all over this thing 600 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 4: like the, final but if you want a like toy playoff, 601 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: run you have to, go you, know pretty deep in 602 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 4: your roster channel to deal with injuries and other, absences 603 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: And Elmer, soderblums you're thirteenth. Forward that's a pretty good 604 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 4: that at least the scene and be a pretty good 605 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: option to turn to if you need to go into that. 606 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: Depth so uh, NO i, mean that's what it's a 607 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: wonderful problem to. HAVE i, mean you're already seeing with 608 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: guys Like Avery hayeses offered. Something he went down to 609 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: the Wolks bear spranting today because they just don't have 610 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: a room right. Now you, Know rutger McGorty and real 611 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: equivalent for their limitations and you, know maybe some of 612 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: their shortcomings this, year they went down to Wolks bear 613 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 4: to get some playing time because they're, not you, know 614 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: frankly among the team's top twelve fowards right. Now so 615 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: The pengleins have some depth at a wonderful luxury they 616 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: probably haven't had for a few years right. 617 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: Now we talked earlier About Cheeah coff currently playing with 618 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: sid don't you feel when push comes to shove And lazatt's, 619 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: healthy they they Reunite, Raquel rust And crosby and go 620 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: pretty much back the way it was when everybody was. 621 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: AVAILABLE i, mean if was eight years where he's going 622 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: to be back on that. 623 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: Line just you, Know Sydney crosby has his preferences and 624 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: right Now ricard tells his. Preference and who, knows maybe 625 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: if if they generate a few more goals here with 626 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 4: Eager China coff the next game or, two that might. 627 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: Change BUT i, mean if everyone's healthy and you have 628 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: your cenator that's back to where you want it to. 629 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 4: Be you, know maybe you move Rick Hard roquel back 630 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: to the left wing there on that top. Line BUT 631 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: i think right now it's the worthwhile. Experiment particularly Is 632 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: Tommy novak's dealing with some you, know diminished play right, 633 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: now and you maybe Give Ben kendall a few more 634 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: reps and a slightly more elevated. Role and you, KNOW i, 635 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: think you, know for one thing that's maybe been a 636 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: hallmark of this. Season you, know dam he hasn't been 637 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: afraid to do some r AND, d some research and, 638 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: development AND i think you're seeing some of that right 639 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 4: now with Using raquel at center in that role right. 640 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: Now and that was something he was doing back in the. 641 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 4: Preseason that was something was done out in the sethity 642 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 4: When Sidney crossey came out of The olympics with an. 643 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 4: Injury So rick Hard raquel's brown in a little bit 644 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: more comfortable into that. 645 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 5: Role he did it earlier in his career At. 646 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 4: Anaheim you, know it was kind of the third line 647 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: center behind guys Like Ryan getzoff And Ryan. Kessler BUT 648 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 4: i think clearly he's he's better a better fit as 649 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: a wing Per Sidney crossey's. Wing but he's shown some 650 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 4: more than enough competency playing center when the occasion has been. 651 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Required s that's great. 652 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: Stuff we'll talk again, soon see at the rink this 653 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: weekend any, Time, mark we. 654 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Will that's seth rowaball from the. 655 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: Trip Connor griffin with a double to drive in a 656 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: run in his first at. Bat so The bucco revolution 657 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: is upon. Us las Cal churist does one oh five 658 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: nine THE x time to Ask mark anything forgot to plug, 659 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 2: it so call, now better late than. 660 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: Never eight three three four one TWO. 661 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: Wxdx call in eight three three four one two wxdx 662 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: and Ask mark. Anything or you could leave a talk 663 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: back via the microphone icon at The iHeart media app 664 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 2: pirates are blowing Out. 665 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore it's four. Nil in the uh. 666 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: Bottom of the, Second Connor griffin got his first big league, 667 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: hitting his first big league get, bat A rbi, double 668 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: came around to. 669 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: Score trillo And davis have hits in this, rally and 670 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: that's what they. 671 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Need they need guys you don't expect to do good 672 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: to more than occasionally do. 673 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Good but it's a long, season long. Season they look 674 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: good long. 675 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: Season it's a big sample, game not a small sample, 676 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: game but the small sample right this, second this, game 677 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: in those last two games At cincinnati is very. Good 678 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: and the adrenaline Signing griffin, provides just a talent like 679 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: that in the locker room and on the field. 680 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Is huge as. 681 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: WELL i like they're showing The griffin family is in 682 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: a box AT. PNC i wonder If bob nottting charged. 683 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: Him they're in a box AT, pnc and his younger, 684 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: brother looks like about sixteen fifteen or. 685 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: So is filming everything on his. 686 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: Phone even though getting video of everything that happens won't 687 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: be a, problem this is going to be extremely. 688 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: Documented he's doing it. Himself HE'S diy and that's. 689 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Cool that's, cool that's, family that's want something that's special to. 690 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: HIM i like. 691 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: It uh eight three three four one two wxdxter number to. 692 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: Call we've been talking a lot Of, penguins you know 693 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: WHAT i will. SAY I i get stuck talking about 694 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: certain things again and again because that's the kind of 695 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: PERSONALITY i. Have and The penguins goaltending, Thing i'm actually 696 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: tired of talking about it because it won't be. 697 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: Fixed skinner is what he, is so a. Shilloffs they're 698 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: not gonna come. More shove. 699 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: Up The penguins goaltending is just what it is. Now 700 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: the rest of this season and getting into the. Playoffs 701 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: and it's kind of funny that anybody that's A penguins, 702 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: fan including, myself would have been happy just. 703 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: To make the. Playoffs but, now, boy wouldn't it be 704 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: great to win a playoff. SERIES i don't. 705 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: Know if they lost in the first, round, WELL i 706 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: gotta tell, you if they lost To columbus in the. 707 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: First, round the Way coombas is playing, Now i'd be. 708 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: Disappointed and if they lost to The Eye, islanders it'd 709 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: be frustrating because it's always The. Islanders But i'm telling you, 710 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: now if The penguins play The islanders in the first. 711 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: Round if The penguins have home, ice that would be 712 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 2: a really tough, choice tough. Prediction if The islanders had home, 713 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: Ice i'd picked The islanders because of the goaltending, matchup 714 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: which would be a. Mismatch soarrocans asn't a trophy, guy 715 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: AND i know he as the trophy, contender AND i 716 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: know he allots seven goals The penguins the other, night 717 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: but can't count on that over a best of. Seven in, 718 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 2: FACT i think we wouldn't see that again even once 719 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: in the best of. Seven i'd be surprised if Sobrokn 720 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: a looted more than three goals more than once in 721 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: the best of, seven Whereas skinner And shilloffs are allowing 722 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: three goals or more every. Game As mark anything, eight 723 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: three to, three four to, one TWO. Wxd because let's 724 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: go To George George rome With, Mark, Hey, mark. 725 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 5: How are you? 726 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: Good? 727 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 5: GOOD i hear you've been lying To vegas your entire. 728 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 5: Life you've never. Been And George clooney. 729 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: That is this a takeoff on a? Movie is this Like? Oceans? 730 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: Whatever the? 731 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: Freak i've been To vegas too. OFTEN i didn't get. 732 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: That even THOUGH i didn't get. It it was kind of, 733 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: funny BUT i just didn't get. It, uh we've been 734 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: talking about who played bad last night in The penguins. 735 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: GAME i, Mean i'm not down On sid And. GINO 736 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: i just know they need more AND i think they're 737 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: playing hurt and that's not. Good if you wanted to 738 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: look at The penguins, problems it's, goaltending stars are, cold 739 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: poor defensive. STRUCTURE i thought they took their foot off 740 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: the accelerator last. NIGHT i, mean none of that is 741 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: impossible to, fix except to be, honest to, goaltending and 742 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: probably the defensive structure because they just play how they 743 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 2: play at this. Point at one, point, THOUGH i thought 744 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: one of the strong points of the team. 745 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: Was the defensive. 746 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: Structure AND i wondered at the last commercial break if 747 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: maybe the fourth line scoring so much had taking them 748 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 2: out of that defensive, structure because the fourth line got 749 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: to have, that you, know because Uh doer has fourteen 750 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: goals At charia as. Eleven but if you look at 751 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: the plus, minus which doesn't mean everything but doesn't mean, 752 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: nothing that's not the case because A charian do or 753 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: both among the team leaders and plus. MINUS i think 754 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: getting rid Of qulac has upset the apple. Cart gerard's 755 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: not as, good certainly not. DEFENSIVELY i Think tanger's been 756 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: up and down the whole. YEAR i Think carlson, LATELY 757 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: i mean he's so involved in quarterbacking the team and 758 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 2: and you, know administering the. Puck maybe his defense hasn't 759 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 2: been quite as good, lately but that's always been his. 760 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 2: Game SO i CAN'T i can't speak out against. 761 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: THAT i don't. 762 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: KNOW i, mean like The penguins have have been a 763 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 2: weird team all, year losing all those. SHOOTOUTS i, mean 764 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: The devils have more home more more wins rather not, 765 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: home but more wins than The, penguins and they're like 766 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: way behind them because the loser. 767 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: POINT i hate the loser. Point it's saving The. 768 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: Penguins it's just an odd season and odd, team an 769 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: early arriving. TEAM i like, that but but again the 770 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: word is. Odd let's go To. Phil fill your all 771 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: with DOUBLE m. 772 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 6: Mark the goaltending. SITUATION i, mean to your, point you're 773 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 6: not gonna win many four to three games in the. 774 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 6: Playoffs AND i feel like every Time Stewart skinner gets 775 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 6: a chance to like take the number one and, run 776 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 6: he crafts the bed the next. 777 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: Game oh that that that's. 778 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: TRUE i mean he's gotten four of the last five 779 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: starts and has played not very well in two of 780 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 2: those four. 781 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: Games wouldn't you? Agree? 782 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, Absolutely and you, Know showoff will look great tomorrow 783 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 6: and then we're going to be back talking who's goalie 784 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 6: in next. 785 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: Week well you know why that, Is, phil because there's 786 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: not a good. 787 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: Answer you, know whenever you whenever you debate, something it 788 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: can't come to a conclusion over the long. Haul it's 789 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: because there is no right answer to that. DEBATE i 790 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: think that's the case with The penguin's. Goaltending, yeah for. 791 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 6: SURE i don't understand not calling Up. 792 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: MORRISHOFF i don't understand not giving him a bigger look 793 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: than they. Have they only had him play five games 794 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 2: in the, league and that was due to injury Before 795 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 2: New YEAR'S i can't believe he hasn't gotten even a 796 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: look since The. 797 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 6: New, year and he's doing phenomenal in THE ahl, right 798 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 6: like his stats are popping the league down. 799 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: There well, No i've been told point blank it's because 800 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: that was the plan to keep him down there the whole. 801 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: Year but at the risk of repeating. 802 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: Myself the plan was also to finish bottom five and 803 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: get a top five draft. Pick so if that part 804 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 2: of the plan was, corrupted however, happily then you Can't 805 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: you should be able to corrupt another part of the plan. 806 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: To take it a step. 807 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 3: Further, yeah we can't wait for the. 808 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 6: Future if the future is kind of now by mistake 809 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 6: or you, know happens to the. 810 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: Futures the future is not the future is not. 811 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: Now this isn't the team designed to even win a 812 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: playoff series, now and if they, did it would, be 813 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: LIKE i, said a happy. Accident but but, YEAH i, 814 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: mean and now it's too late to bring him up. 815 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: Now you're literally too close to the end of the 816 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 2: season to give that a. 817 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: Try, yeah for, sure you're the, latest the lightest you 818 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: could have. 819 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 2: Done it possibly was like a week or ten days, 820 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: ago that's The but then you would have been putting 821 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: him right in games Like, ottawa Uh islanders In detroit 822 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: that really. Matter and that's not to say he wouldn't 823 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 2: have won. THOSE i think he would. 824 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: Have but if he doesn't win, those then the heat's 825 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: really on. Management you see What i'm. 826 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 4: Saying, yes, sir that's why you're a super. 827 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: Genius let's go To Lou. Lou you're on with DOUBLE. M. 828 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 3: MARK i feel LIKE i know you're saying they arrive 829 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 3: early and. Whatnot AND i feel like The penguins think 830 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 3: making the playoffs this year management that is is kind 831 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: of like gravy and then Next. 832 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: No, no they they. Don't they don't feel it's. 833 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: GRAVY i know there's a part of them that which 834 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: is they could have stuck to just the rebuilding plan 835 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: and played more young guys and gotten a better draft. 836 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 2: Pick but one thing this will do if they make the, 837 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: playoffs and especially if they went, around we won't hear 838 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 2: From sid's agent about How sid should be in the 839 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: playoffs every year if they make the. Playoffs and LIKE i, 840 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: said let alone went, Around sid's, agent pap person has no, complaint. 841 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: Although he might. 842 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 7: Anyway, OKAY i want to say about Miroshof Real, QUICK 843 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 7: i feel like they can wait till next year to 844 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 7: give him his. Turn but my, Feeling mark is there's 845 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 7: gonna be a void of prospects coming up for one 846 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 7: year because the next good wave is too young to 847 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 7: help next. Year there's nothing In wilkesbury that's gonna draftically 848 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 7: help this. 849 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: Team that's probably. True there aren't any top sixes In. 850 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: Wilkes i'm not sure there are any top six is 851 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: in the. System but the top sixes can be replenished 852 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: through aid and free. Agency you can't build everything from, within. 853 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: That's, true but this is a lean free, Agent, Mark 854 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: and if you Lose manth And malcolm. Whatever my point, 855 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 3: is why not see if mirror shop gives you the 856 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 3: best shot to win this, year which he, well they're. 857 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Just they're just not gonna do, that. 858 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 7: Sir OBVIOUSLY i, understand BUT i just want to back 859 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 7: up your. Point you say you talk about it too. 860 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 7: MUCH i don't think you talk about it, enough because 861 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 7: if they lose in the first round of bad, goaltending 862 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 7: it's really gonna. Sting thank, You. 863 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: Mark, yeah you're right about. 864 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: That just LIKE i, said they couldn't call it morishoff right, 865 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 2: before like say The ottawa, game because if he loses those, 866 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 2: games then there's heat on. MANAGEMENT i think if the 867 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 2: goaltending is the reason they lose in the first round 868 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: or blow it down the, stretch then, yeah there's heat 869 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 2: on management for that as. 870 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: WELL a three three four one. 871 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: Two wsdx power it's up four to nothing in the, 872 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: third we're gonna talk a Little, steelers, no a little, Football, 873 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: WELL i mean not. 874 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: Really, Perversely i'm talking about. 875 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: Football i'm going to talk about HOW i hate to 876 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: talk about football even AS i talk about. 877 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: Football that's up, next one oh five. 878 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 2: Nine