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Speaker 1: Big edition of the Dan O'Donnell Show, a huge exclusive

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Speaker 1: showing a deep, deep division between the men and women

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Speaker 1: of law enforcement in Milwaukee and the City Attorney's office.

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Speaker 1: You are not going to want to miss this coming

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Speaker 1: up in just a couple of minutes. But first I

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Speaker 1: have to announce what just may be one of the

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Speaker 1: single biggest professional risks that any radio host has ever taken. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about open line Friday, where the late

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Speaker 1: great Rush Limbaugh would open up the full lines to

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Speaker 1: rank amateurs. No, I'm not even talking about our version

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Speaker 1: talk radio Roulette, where I have no idea each Friday

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Speaker 1: evening what our callers are going to say. They just

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Speaker 1: get to say whatever it is and surprise me. No, today,

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Speaker 1: I am launching, for one hour only, what we are

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Speaker 1: calling the Epstein Challenge. Since July, I have heard leftists

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Speaker 1: and some conservatives say with absolute certainty that the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States is a pedophile, that he is

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Speaker 1: involved in an international child sex slavery ring, and all

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Speaker 1: manner of increasingly unhinged and positively deranged allegations. At four

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Speaker 1: o'clock PM, we are going to open up the phone

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Speaker 1: lines and I am going to put one thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: of my own money up for grabs if anyone can

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Speaker 1: provide any evidence that I am unable to refute that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a member of a child sex slavery ring,

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Speaker 1: or that he committed any sex crimes related to Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 1: That's right. All you need to do if you are

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Speaker 1: voice is eligible to win Dan o'donald's money. Remember when

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Speaker 1: Ben Stein's money. This is actually easier. You don't need

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Speaker 1: to answer a whole bunch of trivia questions. You just

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Speaker 1: need to prove what it is you have undoubtedly been

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Speaker 1: posting on Facebook for the last nine months. All you

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Speaker 1: need to do is find some evidence that I cannot

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Speaker 1: refute that proves Donald Trump is a pedophile. It's that easy.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, we are actually going to be taking

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Speaker 1: down all of our callers Venmo accounts so that we

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Speaker 1: can very easily pay Venmo or PayPal. I have both,

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Speaker 1: and this is not a corporate thing. Yes, we are

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Speaker 1: going to give out a thousand dollars in our cold

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Speaker 1: hard cash contest three times this hour. Believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: We actually had two winners back to back in the

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Speaker 1: four o'clock hour and the five o'clock hour yesterday evening

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Speaker 1: on this radio show, something that rarely happens. Today, we

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Speaker 1: are sweetening the deal. You don't just get three chances

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Speaker 1: at one thousand bucks from iHeartMedia. You get a chance

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Speaker 1: at one thousand dollars from Dan O'Donnell personally. If you

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Speaker 1: can simply provide some evidence tying President Trump to criminal

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Speaker 1: activity that I can't refute, it should be about as

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Speaker 1: easy a thing as possible. Right, Yes, we are going

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Speaker 1: to take the four o'clock hour and I am going

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Speaker 1: to systematically debunk pretty much everything there is to debunk

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Speaker 1: about this latest batch of Epstein file releases. We now

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Speaker 1: it is true. A whole lot of people are having

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Speaker 1: to be mentioned in these files. Case in point, Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: This is why these sort of document releases are are

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Speaker 1: But it does a great disservice to anyone who is

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Speaker 1: about Yes Reid Hoffman, who by the way, has far

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Speaker 1: the single biggest funder of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. Now

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Speaker 1: worst possible way. The fact that Democrats have not even

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Speaker 1: The President believes in the United States Constitution.

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Speaker 2: However, he believes there has obviously been a lot of

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Speaker 2: And again, voter ID is a highly popular and common

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Speaker 1: Much more on the Save America Act and Voter ID

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Speaker 1: the search for Nancy Guthrie, the eighty four year old

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Speaker 1: at the Dan O'Donnell show, because yesterday in the four

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Speaker 1: Trump is an international pedophile, then you win one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: And I am dead serious about this, Producer, Eric did

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Speaker 1: accounts so I can pay them out of my own pocket?

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Speaker 1: I did hear you say that? All right? All I needed?

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Speaker 1: It is real. It is a legitimate challenge one thousand

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it. It's a tour de force of truth,

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Speaker 1: I have obtained a letter from the head of the

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Speaker 1: do you remember the story of Kyshawan Thomas. This past November,

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Speaker 3: The Milwaukee Common Council today also approved paying two and

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Speaker 4: Right, so there's one rock, where's the other one?

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Speaker 5: You ate him?

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Speaker 6: I ate the smoke.

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Speaker 3: Twenty year old Kyshawn Thomas died in his holding sale

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Speaker 3: Thomas's family filed a lawsuit against the city, alleging three

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Speaker 1: What was not included in that report was the fact

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Speaker 1: He ingested those drugs because he knew they were on

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Speaker 1: This case figures very prominently in Iowa's letter, Dear City Attorney,

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Speaker 1: goiki on behalf of the Milwaukee Police Association, which represents

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Speaker 1: is absolutely no reasonable explanation to justify the city's failure

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Speaker 1: vigorously defended, as mister Thomas's own conduct of secreting dangerous

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Speaker 1: I don't think I need to explain that any further,

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Speaker 1: The city Attorney's role is to represent the City of

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Speaker 1: It is not to represent Cedric Smith. But the Police

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Speaker 1: It costs the taxpayers of the city who directly fund

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Speaker 1: firmly requests a transparent disclosure of current protocols for defending

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Speaker 1: Alexandra Ayala, President Milwaukee Police Association, and the letter was

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Speaker 1: wing hack and that doesn't count. Darn Then somebody please

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Speaker 1: tell this idiot. I have a communications degree, a law degree,

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Speaker 1: and have won probably three dozen state and regional journalism

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Speaker 1: awards and two national ones, big ones, the Edward R.

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Speaker 1: Moreau Award, one for investigative reporting Serious Journalism, the other

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Speaker 1: one for sports reporting many many years ago. Balls in

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Speaker 1: your court, Congressman, five thousand dollars for all of the

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Speaker 1: rest of you. Get me evidence that Trump is connected

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Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes that I cannot refute. Thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: in your pocket. Yes, this is absolutely a legitimate offer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are actually going to be asking for your Venmo

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Speaker 1: and pay palock house. No, we're not going to give

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Speaker 1: them out on the air, rather obviously, but just so

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Speaker 1: in the event that one of you can actually back

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Speaker 1: up the nonsense that has been spewing forth from your

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Speaker 1: mouths for the last nine months. I'll pay you one

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars of my own money. It's literally that easy.

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Speaker 1: All you gotta do is call up Congressman Pocane five

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Speaker 1: grand for you for your campaign reelection efforts. I know,

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Speaker 1: ironically enough, you probably don't need it, since your district

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Speaker 1: But the offer is on the table. Five grand. Huge,

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Speaker 1: huge story that we broke. A couple of minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Police Association is accusing the City Attorney's office

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Speaker 1: of not actually defending police officers. When the Milwaukee Police

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Speaker 1: Department gets sued in a very famous case of wrongful death,

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Speaker 1: the city, instead of actually mounting a defense, simply paid

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Speaker 1: out a two point five million dollar settlement to a

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Speaker 1: dude who shot somebody to death, swallowed all of the

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Speaker 1: drugs that he had quite literally in his person, and

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Speaker 1: yes it was in the hole that you are terrified

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Speaker 1: to imagine. The drugs were in the hole. He took

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Speaker 1: them out and swallowed them, probably dry heaving as he did,

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Speaker 1: and then he died of an overdose in Milwaukee police custody.

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Speaker 1: His family sued because they alleged that the office didn't

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Speaker 1: do enough to save him. You can actually see in

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Speaker 1: almost two dozen officers come rushing in to try to

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Speaker 1: save this guy. And in fact, in the video when

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Speaker 1: have known that he had drugs, he said, I swallowed

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Speaker 1: some of my weed. I don't know. I've never swallowed weed,

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Speaker 1: but I'm taking a wild guess. You are not going

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Speaker 1: to die from an overdose of swallowing weed that had

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Speaker 1: just been up your butt. You'd probably barf because the

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Speaker 1: taste and smell alone might get you, but you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna die. The letter alleges the City Attorney's office refused

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Speaker 1: even a judge when presented with utter incompetence by the

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Speaker 1: City Attorney's Office. In a different case in which there

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Speaker 1: was a believe it was alleged it was an improper

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars judgment that was issued because the

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Speaker 1: even though she was well aware until like a month later.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey, oh, by the way, that case, there

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Speaker 1: was another case that was cited, which made Alex Ayala,

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Speaker 1: the president of the Milwaukee Police Association, come to the

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Speaker 1: conclusion that either of the City Attorney's office is incompetent

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Speaker 1: and can't defend any of these cases, or it is

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Speaker 1: intentionally taking a dive. And I would love an answer

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Speaker 1: from the City Attorney's office because the evidence seems pretty overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: Evan Goik was a Remember this is a former Democrat politician.

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Speaker 1: Where do you suppose he was in twenty twenty with

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Speaker 1: the rest of him going defund the police, screaming about

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Speaker 1: police brutality, genuinely spewing anti police rhetoric. Ed, what do

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Speaker 1: you know, we're getting the exact same sort of rhetoric

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Speaker 1: against a specific law enforcement agency, not local police anymore,

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Speaker 1: but rather ice. It's the same thing at What's being

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Speaker 1: alleged is that the City Attorney's office, under the direction

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat city Attorney, is intentionally not defending police

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Speaker 1: officers and is quite literally costing taxpayers millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: because of his insane anti police bias. Coming up in

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Speaker 1: just a second, we'll name the unhinged liberal of the day,

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Speaker 1: and trust me, it's a funny one. Stay tuned Dan

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell show coming right back up in about ten minutes. Libs,

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Speaker 1: it is your big moment. You have been in my

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Speaker 1: Facebook mentions and direct messages for months calling me a

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Speaker 1: pedophile defender. Now I am putting up one thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: of my own money. If you can provide any evidence

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Speaker 1: that I am unable to refute that ties Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: to any Jeffrey Epstein related crime, it should be easy.

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Speaker 1: It's not as though every single Democrat has just been

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Speaker 1: completely making things up and relying on useful idiots in

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Speaker 1: both the traditional and social media to carry along a

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Speaker 1: message that they know to be false that couldn't possibly happen.

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Speaker 1: There's gotta be some evidence that some random right wing

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Speaker 1: radio host, just some random dude in Wisconsin is unable

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Speaker 1: to refute. I mean, according to Wisconsin Congressman Mark Pokanne,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even a journalist, so it should be easy.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm issuing an open challenge to Congressman Pocine

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Speaker 1: specifically five thousand dollars either to his campaign or I'll

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Speaker 1: go to the charity of his choice, plan parenthood. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Man Boy Love Association. Whatever it is that

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Speaker 1: Congressman Pocan wants me to donate to, I will donate

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Speaker 1: what is it called NAMBLA, whatever, whatever charity he wants.

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Speaker 1: He's made repeated allegations about Trump and the Epstein files.

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Speaker 1: Surely he'd want five thousand dollars of my money for

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Speaker 1: all the rest of you one thousand dollars. Time now

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Speaker 1: to name the unhinged liberal of the day Germany. Oh,

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Speaker 1: truff is dangerous because he's evil.

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Speaker 7: America.

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Speaker 1: Today's own hinge liberal of the day is this protester

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Speaker 1: who isn't quite sure what fascism is. Why are you

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Speaker 1: out here protesting?

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Speaker 4: My name is Michelle, and I'm out here protesting because

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Speaker 4: I'm against fascism.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is fascism?

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Speaker 4: Fascism is that it's words hard. Fascism is the authoritarian

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Speaker 4: uh where we're so hard right now?

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Speaker 3: Sorry?

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Speaker 4: Fascism is an authoritarianism that is about focusing on one

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Speaker 4: demographic right, So it's.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a breath now up, ah, Michelle. You know

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Speaker 1: you hate it. You just have no idea what it is.

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Speaker 1: You are our unhinged liberal of the day here. It

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Speaker 1: is the Epstein Challenge. If you believe that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: committed sex crimes related to the notorious international pedophile Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 1: provide me with your best evidence. If I am unable

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Speaker 1: to refute it, you get one thousand dollars. If, however,

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Speaker 1: you are unable to prove your claim, you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: forced to admit maybe there is no evidence tying Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump to any Jeffrey Epstein sex crimes and that Democrats

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Speaker 1: have been lying to you for months. Now. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to directly venmo you a one thousand dollars if you

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Speaker 1: to me in person over the phone it seems weird.

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Speaker 1: Right now we have a couple of people calling in,

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Speaker 1: but that the phones aren't ringing off the hook seems

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Speaker 1: rather odd. I mean, we've got what three and a

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Speaker 1: half million pages of documents just released last Friday. We've

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Speaker 1: had the ties between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein known

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Speaker 1: for years and years and years. There have been multiple

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Speaker 1: public allegations. You'd think something somebody would want to bring up. Well,

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Speaker 1: Just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration.

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Speaker 5: It's also a big win for the United States.

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Speaker 1: We have to keep winning. We have to win more.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna win Moore, Okay, I'm starting to see some

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Speaker 1: of these calls come in, and I don't think these

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Speaker 1: are libs who are calling in. I do appreciate it, Folks,

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Speaker 1: you think one is actually a legitimate call? I would

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Speaker 1: I I would be surprised. Producer, Eric, we will in

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Speaker 1: the event that you are able to provide some evidence

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Speaker 1: that I can refute live on the air. We are

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Speaker 1: going to put you back on hold, and you're going

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Speaker 1: to give your Venmo account information to Eric. Look, we

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Speaker 1: promise we're gonna keep it. How am I gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: giving you a thousand bucks? You know, like I'm not gonna,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, try to hack into your Venmo account. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you got it. There's got to be a certain level

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Speaker 1: of trust here, all right, Daily Trump date, the partial

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Speaker 1: government shutdown is just about at its end. Did President Trump?

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Speaker 1: Did I see this during the three o'clock hour? Did

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Speaker 1: he actually sign the legislation reopening the He did that?

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Speaker 1: That was the signing? All right, the federal government is

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Speaker 1: back open. I've been running around trying to verify some

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Speaker 1: other aspects of a story. We are still following that

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Speaker 1: big story that we broke to you about the Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Police Association basically accusing the city Attorney's office of intentionally

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Speaker 1: not defending cops against lawsuits. All right, So the federal

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Speaker 1: government shutdown is over, but the debate over ICE and

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Speaker 1: DHS funding is just punted for an additional ten days.

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Speaker 1: The big bone of contention in that shutdown was whether

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Speaker 1: or not one of the appropriations bills would go towards

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Speaker 1: funding the Department of Homeland Security. Now, it should be

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Speaker 1: noted that ICE, which of course is the controversial part

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Speaker 1: of DHS, is fully funded through twenty twenty nine. We

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Speaker 1: will get into more of that and why President Trump

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Speaker 1: is pushing for the passage of the Save Act, which

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Speaker 1: he's calling the Save America Act, voter ID and much

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Speaker 1: much more enhancements to protect America's elections coming up. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Caroline Levitt, White House Press Secretary, said President

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Speaker 1: Trump absolutely does want the Save Act passed, even though

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Speaker 1: he pushed House Republicans not to include it in their

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Speaker 1: appropriations bills. He wants it passed on a separate, standalone bill.

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Speaker 2: But the President was referring to is the say that

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Speaker 2: which is a huge common sense piece of legislation that

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Speaker 2: Republicans have supported that President Trump is committed to signing

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Speaker 2: into law during his term, and he spoke with the

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Speaker 2: Speaker directly about that yesterday about the need to get

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Speaker 2: that bill on the floor for a vote, because it

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Speaker 2: provides very common sense measures for voting in our country.

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Speaker 1: Such as voter ID.

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Speaker 2: I don't think any rational person who's being honest with

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Speaker 2: themselves would disagree with the idea of requiring citizens of

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Speaker 2: this country to present an id before casting a ballot

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Speaker 2: in a federal election or frankly, in any election. And

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Speaker 2: that's something the President wants to see happen.

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Speaker 1: And of course we will be discussing this in depth

651
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Speaker 1: in the five o'clock hour. Big news about border encounters

652
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Speaker 1: from the few Research Service, Migrant encounters at the southern

653
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Speaker 1: border at their lowest level in more than fifty years

654
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, just two hundred and thirty seven

655
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Speaker 1: thousand encounters and not a single person was released into

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Speaker 1: the interior of this country. Now compare that to twenty

657
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Speaker 1: twenty two two point two million, twenty twenty three also

658
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Speaker 1: under President Joe Biden two point oh four million, and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four one point five million, all the way

660
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Speaker 1: down to two hundred thirty seven thousand. That, ladies and gentlemen,

661
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Speaker 1: is your daily Trump date? All right? The Epstein challenge

662
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars if you can produce evidence tying Trump

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Speaker 1: to sex crimes connected to Jeffrey Epstein that I am

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Speaker 1: unable to refute. Let's start with Rich calling from walk Shaw. Rich,

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Speaker 1: you're on the Dan O'Donnell show. What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for taking my call. So basically what I the

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Speaker 6: way I would frame this is is just sort of

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Speaker 6: listing the nature. If you know a court of law,

671
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Speaker 6: many times people are convicted, for example, Charles Manson. Of

672
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Speaker 6: course they couldn't convict or, it couldn't prove that he

673
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Speaker 6: in fact committed murder, but they found him reliable for it.

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Speaker 1: So my point, no, he was convicted of murder. He

675
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Speaker 1: was convicted of directing his followers to commit murder.

676
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Speaker 6: But they didn't They didn't have evidence of him actually

677
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Speaker 6: pulling the trigger or being at the at the scene

678
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Speaker 6: of that ground. But anyway, my point being that you

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Speaker 6: have a relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein that

680
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Speaker 6: was well over a decade. Uh, You've seen videos of

681
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Speaker 6: these guys together. Basically, we don't know in the redaction

682
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Speaker 6: of the Epstein files, we don't know to what extent

683
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Speaker 6: personal information of course about Trump's relationship potential relationship with

684
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Speaker 6: anybody underage is in that document. Given what the FBI

685
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Speaker 6: and the Justice Farm has shown us. Basically if you

686
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Speaker 6: look at it, he Trump has of course been convicted

687
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Speaker 6: of assaulting. He had multiple accusations against him.

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Speaker 1: He's been convicted of assaulting who.

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Speaker 8: Gene Carroll.

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Speaker 1: He was convicted of assaulting her. Yes, no, he was not.

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Speaker 6: He was held liable for sexual assaulting.

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Speaker 1: He was held liable for defaming her by saying she

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Speaker 1: was a liar. And in fact, the Egen Carrol case

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Speaker 1: has absolutely nothing to do with Epstein and the fact

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Speaker 1: that Egen Carroll. Do you know what year the Egen

696
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Speaker 1: Carroll assault happens?

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Speaker 6: Do you happen to remember that in the nineteen nineties?

698
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Speaker 1: It was the nineteen nineties. But the correct answer is, actually,

699
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Speaker 1: we don't know. You know why, because neither it is

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Speaker 1: Egen Carol. She had no idea what year it took place.

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Speaker 1: She could even remember the season it took place. Like

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Speaker 1: for example, I'm forty four years old. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: if something happened twenty one years ago, twenty two years ago,

704
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Speaker 1: but I'd be able to remember. Okay, this happened in

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Speaker 1: the fall. This happened in the spring. There's no evidence

706
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Speaker 1: that anybody outside of eg and Carroll saw the two

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and her together. She claimed that Trump assaulted

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Speaker 1: her in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman, Right, do

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Speaker 1: you know the problem with that? In order to get

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Speaker 1: into the dressing room at Bergdorf. Goodman, you need a key,

711
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Speaker 1: and at the time you needed somebody to provide that

712
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Speaker 1: key to unlock the dressing room as an anti theft thing.

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Speaker 1: When she was presented with this, she said, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of Trump's attorneys said you needed a key to

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Speaker 1: get in there. How did you guys get in there

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Speaker 1: without any any employee? Okay, but here's the thing, she said,

717
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Speaker 1: she had no idea. So already you have got allegations

718
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Speaker 1: where the victim can't remember the year, can't remember the season,

719
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: only talked about this years later, only came forward after

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was elected president. Mind you, this happened in

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Speaker 1: the nineties, but it wasn't until she was very politically

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Speaker 1: opposed to him and actually backed in her lawsuit by

723
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Speaker 1: very prominent liberal wealthy activists. This also, this, also, Rich,

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Speaker 1: is not evidence of anything tied to Jeffrey Epstein. So

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Speaker 1: what you're trying to say is to connect Trump. Like

726
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Speaker 1: Charles Manson saying, don't you actually first hold on a second, Rich,

727
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Speaker 1: you admitted, we don't know anything in the Justice Department files,

728
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Speaker 1: but we know Trump's character. Just like Jeffrey Epstein, he

729
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Speaker 1: clearly was what directing people the relationship between Trump and

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Speaker 1: Epstein actually ended in either two thousand and four or

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five. That's been well documented. Now we

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly why it ended. Trump claims that it

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Speaker 1: was because he saw Epstein mistreating women. I think it's

734
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Speaker 1: more likely Epstein was stealing an employee that Trump liked,

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Speaker 1: and also that Epstein actually outbid Trump for a property

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Speaker 1: in mar Lago. But Epstein wasn't convicted until two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight, and there is actually no documented tie between

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Speaker 1: Trump and Epstein after two thousand and five. The notion

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Speaker 1: that their relationship goes back decades is in fact false.

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Speaker 1: They were friendly from about nineteen ninety two to about

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Speaker 1: nineteen or excuse me, two thousand and five, but everything

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Speaker 1: after that it isn't. And this notion that what Trump

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Speaker 1: was directing people to what commit sex crimes, I can

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Speaker 1: actually tell you exactly where that allegation comes from. The

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Speaker 1: idea here is that Trump in I think it was

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Speaker 1: nineteen yeah, it was nineteen ninety four, he forced an

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Speaker 1: underage girl to perform a sex act sometime in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Do you know the problem with that is that came

749
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Speaker 1: in in the tip line, that came in as an

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Speaker 1: anonymous complaint after the Epstein case had been massively overexposed critically.

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Speaker 1: It also came forth after Democrats began a narrative in

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Speaker 1: about early July of this past year of twenty twenty

753
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Speaker 1: five saying that Donald Trump was absolutely a pedophile, that

754
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Speaker 1: he was covering things up. That launched a flood of

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Speaker 1: anonymous and rather easily debunked claims against him. This is

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Speaker 1: actually the major problem with this release of the Epstein files.

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Speaker 1: That when you get the national FBI tip line, which

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Speaker 1: gets somewhere in the neighborhood of three to four thousand

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Speaker 1: tips per day, and you get a very high profile

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Speaker 1: case like this, for example, the Nancy Guthrie disappearance is

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Speaker 1: probably getting anywhere between five or six thousand tips. Do

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Speaker 1: you think all of them are Do you think all

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Speaker 1: of them are verifiable? Do you think all of these

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Speaker 1: are something that is going to result in actionable evidence?

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Speaker 7: It's not.

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Speaker 1: You get a lot of people calling in because the

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Speaker 1: case is in the news. Excellent try, but sorry, no

768
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Speaker 1: dice merely saying well, he had a relationship and here

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Speaker 1: in this other unrelated case he was not convicted but

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Speaker 1: actually found liable for defamation let's go to Tom where

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Speaker 1: you call him from. It's San Diego, Tom. Wow, all

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Speaker 1: the way out in San Diego. Welcome to the Dan

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell show. How's the weather out there? Much better than here?

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's very nice. Thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 5: How are you not too bad?

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Speaker 1: What is your evidence? Sir?

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Speaker 5: Okay? So first, Donald Trump claims and still claims to

779
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Speaker 5: this day, that he never was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. However,

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Speaker 5: the FBI says.

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Speaker 1: No, that's actually not accurate. He was. He was on

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's plane. He's never claimed he was not on

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Speaker 1: the plane. In fact, he said, yeah, I was on

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Speaker 1: the plane with Ivanka when Ivanka was like nine years old.

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Speaker 1: He said he was never on the island, which is

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Speaker 1: in fact corroborated. Flight lugs do place him on the plane.

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Speaker 1: But every single time he was on Epstein's plane, I

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Speaker 1: think it was like three or four times he was

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Speaker 1: with his family.

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Speaker 5: That is incorrect.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 5: Actually yes it is.

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Speaker 1: And I mean I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's not. I mean, we have the flight.

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Speaker 5: We have the flight on the plane seven times, not

796
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Speaker 5: three or more. I think they say seven to eight

797
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Speaker 5: times or more. And one time the FBI says he

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Speaker 5: on the plane by himself, with Epstein and an unnamed

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Speaker 5: woman in her twenties. And we can presume that she

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Speaker 5: is not named because they redacted her name because she

801
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Speaker 5: is a victim. Otherwise, why would she not be named

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Speaker 5: as they have her name?

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Speaker 1: Well, she was in her twenties. How could she be

804
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Speaker 1: a victim?

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Speaker 5: She could be raped, she could be trafficked.

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Speaker 1: What was what was the evidence that she was raped.

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Speaker 5: On this I didn't say she was I said she

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Speaker 5: could have been. Oh, her name was redacted. We can

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Speaker 5: assume Oh.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait, say what you just said a

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Speaker 1: split second ago. I'm not saying she was raped. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying say it again. I want you to say it again,

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Speaker 1: slowly and think about it, because no, no, no, not

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Speaker 1: that part, not that part I want you to say.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying she was raped. I'm saying what I suspect, Tommy,

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Speaker 1: you seem like you seem like a smart guy. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You just admitted that this is this.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: You're not good at this, because I suspect you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get you to say, you literally said,

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Speaker 1: you literally literally Trump, you literally you literally just said, Tom,

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Speaker 1: just you literally just said, she what I don't know

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Speaker 1: if she was raped, but she could have been. Is

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Speaker 1: that evidence, Tom? Is that evidence of a rape? She

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Speaker 1: might or might not have been raped, but she could

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Speaker 1: have been.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we maybe need to have an investigation

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Speaker 5: or trial.

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Speaker 1: So there's no evidence. So you don't have evidence that

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Speaker 1: there was a rape on the flight.

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Speaker 5: I don't work for the FBI, and I can't subpoena

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Speaker 5: the woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but here's here's the right, we don't

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Speaker 1: do it. In fact, there is no actual there is

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Speaker 1: no actual allegation that Trump has ever engaged in any

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Speaker 1: sexual assault on the plane? Tom, do you have evidence

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Speaker 1: that this woman was sexually assaulted? Tom? I see what

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Speaker 1: you're doing. It's a rhetorical trick that doesn't actually work

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Speaker 1: on me, because I suspect you already recognize that you've

840
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Speaker 1: been checkmated, because you undercut your entire argument by saying

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she was raped. I'm saying she

842
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Speaker 1: might have been. That is an actual admission that you

843
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Speaker 1: don't have any evidence they did not simply redact the

844
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Speaker 1: names of victims. Here's the problem, Tom, we gotta relax, Okay,

845
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: gotta relax. They did not just redact the names of victims.

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Speaker 1: Those were not the only people's names who were redacted. Okay,

847
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Speaker 1: let's establish that. Let's also establish that you don't have

848
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Speaker 1: actual evidence. And what, unfortunately I need for the Epstein

849
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Speaker 1: challenge is actual evidence. December of twenty twenty, there is

850
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: a letter from a US attorney, an assistant US attorney,

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Speaker 1: that said Trump is listed on a passenger as a

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Speaker 1: passenger on I believe it was seven flights between nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three and nineteen ninety six. Julaine Maxwell was on

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Speaker 1: three or four of these flights. That doesn't prove anything.

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Speaker 1: May nineteen ninety four, Trump's then wife, Maria Maples, I

856
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: was wrong. It wasn't Ivanko as Actually Tiffany Trump, his

857
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Speaker 1: infant daughter, as well as a nanny. His son Eric

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Speaker 1: was on another flight in August of nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 1: There's actually no evidence that there's some unnamed woman who

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Speaker 1: was alleging anything that's completely made up. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the flight looks right now. I'm sorry, Gotta

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Speaker 1: do a little bit better. That was a good attempt.

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Speaker 1: It was a good attempt. Unfortunately, when you say no,

864
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Speaker 1: I don't have evidence that she was raped, but she

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Speaker 1: could have been. Sort of the death knell for your argument.

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Speaker 1: If you think you can do better than Tom, call

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Speaker 1: me up. I can already tell this hour is going

868
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Speaker 1: to be fun. It's the Epstein challenge. Thousand dollars in

869
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: your pocket. Gotta do better than saying well, the twenty

870
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Speaker 1: year old. I knew. I remembered that allegation from somewhere.

871
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, it was a nineteen ninety three flight.

872
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: There was in fact one flight where it was just

873
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: Trump and Epstein and they were go going from New

874
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: York to It was not an international flight. It was

875
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: a short flight, and it was like nineteen ninety three,

876
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. The nineteen ninety three allegation is it's Trump,

877
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: Epstein and a twenty year old who I don't even

878
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: think the gender was specified, and they're the only people

879
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: on the flight. According to a January twenty twenty, this

880
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: was not just a flight log. This was a special

881
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: prosecutor or an assistant district attorney in the Southern District

882
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: of New York. In some unrelated matter. Now, one of

883
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: the reasons that people's names have been redacted in the

884
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: Epstein files is not, as our last caller suggested, solely

885
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: because they're victims. It's to protect any identifying information, So

886
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: anything that would draw somebody into this and identify who

887
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: they are. They don't need to be a victim. And

888
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: this is I can't stress this enough. One of the

889
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: big issues I have had with this release and how sloppy,

890
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: quite frankly, it's been, is it's not just people who

891
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: you think might have been trafficked, it's people who are

892
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: unfairly being lumped into this merely because like one of

893
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: the worst arguments I've heard is Trump is mentioned in

894
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: the Epstein files five thousand times. Yeah, he was the

895
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: president of the United States during a lot of this.

896
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: And did you know that both Steve Bannon and Michael

897
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: Wolfe quote unquote journalist very anti Trump journalists. We're actually

898
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: basically giving pr advice to Epstein. And one thing both

899
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: of them said. Wolf said actually pretty explicitly in twenty seventeen, Hey, Jeffrey,

900
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: if you come out and go super anti Trump, I

901
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: think we can turn the pr tie in your favor.

902
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: So already. When Trump is first inaugurated, there appears to

903
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: be an effort spearheaded by Wolf to not only rehab

904
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's image, but to do so by trying to

905
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: make up some sort of connection between Trump and Epstein's crime, saying, Hey,

906
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: if you come out against Donald Trump, that the media

907
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: is going to love you, interesting, isn't it. Let's go

908
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: to Steve in Beaver. Dam is that Steve? You're on

909
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald show. What's going on? Sir?

910
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 7: Hey damn? Thanks for taking my call?

911
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, sir.

912
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 7: Yeah. So, I mean the Democrats say that it's true.

913
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 5: So how can you refute that?

914
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 1: See, Steve, I feel like you've called this show before,

915
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't think Steve is actually going

916
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: I can't, sir. Democrats say it clearly. You win the

917
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. That's a surfect. You need that money. You

918
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: get his Venmo, Steve, we love you, buddy, we do.

919
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: That's essentially what it comes down to. And this is ultimately, folks,

920
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: what I want to accomplish with this hour is to

921
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: illustrate that so much of what has been said about

922
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: the Epstein file, not just with respect to Trump, but

923
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: also with respect to Bill Gates, also with respect to

924
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: the only two guys who look to be in really

925
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and compromising positions where there's photographic evidence is Prince Andrew,

926
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: who was named by Virginia Giuffrey, who, by the way,

927
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: by the way, has repeatedly said she unfortunately took her

928
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: own life last spring. She repeatedly said she never saw

929
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: Trump do anything untoward. In fact, there was one allegation

930
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: in which Trump was alleged to have done inappropriate things

931
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: with a woman whose name was redacted. Democrats released this

932
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: in one of the dirtiest political tricks that I think

933
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. The redacted name was Virginia Giuffray. It

934
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Speaker 1: was an unverified tip. It was one that rather was

935
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: obviously dismissed as having no merit whatsoever. Because Giuffrey routinely said,

936
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: she repeatedly said Trump did nothing untoward, now she can

937
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: be said she actually accused the now former prince he's

938
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: been deprinted, Andrew Mountbotten or whatever his name is now.

939
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: And Bill Clinton, who is also in picture evidence photograph

940
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: at evidence getting a massage. Now again, does that prove

941
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: that Bill Clinton was engaged in in sexual misconduct. No,

942
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't, but it does show he's getting massages from girls.

943
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: And that was sort of the pretext that Epstein would

944
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: use to get these dudes in bed with these women.

945
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: He would say, Okay, why don't you get a massage? Hey, Virginia,

946
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: why don't you give the prints over here a massage.

947
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to Derek in fox Lake. You're up next

948
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: on the Dan O'Donnell show. Derek you Hey, what's going on? Sir?

949
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 9: Hey, damn, thanks for taking my call.

950
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 8: I've got irrefutable evidence.

951
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so my evidence is Joe Biden's entire reelection campaign

952
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: with jail Trump.

953
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 5: And if there was any evidence of.

954
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 6: Trump's rongdoing it all, he would already be in.

955
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 7: Jail for it.

956
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: That's I mean, well, you're you're you're sort of arguing

957
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: the same thing. I am uh, That's that's it. That's

958
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: kind of the that's that's not absolute proof of Trump's innocence.

959
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: That's not a completed but it is pretty logical that

960
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: let's see, you have Biden saying, according to Jake Tapper's book,

961
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: that he didn't think that he would need the whole

962
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: reason Biden actually ran for reelection was because he thought, well,

963
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: Trump's going to be in jail, I'm just gonna win

964
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: by default. The whole strategy was jail Trump instead of

965
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,479
Speaker 1: the DOJ. You would think four years Merrick Garland, Joe

966
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: Biden in charge of the DOJ, right, instead of making

967
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: up crimes, instead of constitutionally dubious prosecutions from the DOJ.

968
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: They have concrete evidence that's just sitting in some files

969
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump galevanting around the world with the most

970
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: notorious pedophile in American history, and they have evidence that

971
01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: he committed sex crimes, but they didn't use it. That

972
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: seems to me to be the biggest, the biggest question

973
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: that needs to be answered, the biggest hurdle that needs

974
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: to be overcome. And this is something that should actually

975
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: make all of you think if you believe that, Let's

976
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: say Bill Gates, for example, a lot of us hate

977
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: Bill Gates, right because of all the you know, you

978
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: should eat the worms and take the vaccine and all

979
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I personally hate Bill Gates solely because

980
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: of Microsoft Internet Explorer. Still boggles my mind that the

981
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: most popular web operating system or computer operating system in

982
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: the history of the world couldn't manage to get an

983
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: internet browser right, God bless you. Google Chrome by far

984
01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: the best browser ever. There's no evidence that actually ties

985
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: Bill Gates to any of this, and in fact, in fact,

986
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: a very similar argument could be made for Gates's innocence.

987
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: There was actually an attempt that Jeffrey Epstein had to

988
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: potentially blackmail Bill Gates. He emailed him never once mentioned

989
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: any underage girls. In fact, Epstein emailed himself, according to

990
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: this latest tranche of documents that was released on Friday,

991
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: he emailed himself not once but twice. I guess to

992
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: reference an incident where Gates got an STI, an infection

993
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: from a Russian prostitute who was not alleged to be underage,

994
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: and Epstein memorialized that in an email in which he

995
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: was trying to put pressure on Bill Gates, saying things

996
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: like he's going to This is the allegation that not

997
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 1: only did Bill get the STI, he passed it along

998
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: to Melinda and was trying he was trying to surreptitiously

999
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: sneak antibiotics into her food or something like that. This

1000
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: is all Epstein. Epstein is a liar. There's no evidence

1001
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: that this happened, and when Epstein actually was years later

1002
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: trying to get some money from Bill Gates, he doesn't

1003
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: mention any of this seems kind of odd, doesn't It

1004
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Almost as if it's not actually true. I think we've

1005
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: got to step aside for a break. Is this is

1006
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: our second break of the hour, is it not? Producer Eric, Yeah,

1007
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: we are way late for a break. We'll get to

1008
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: some more calls. The Jeffrey Epstein challenge is actually more

1009
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: of a roar shack test, I think for who actually

1010
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: follows the evidence. You know, who would probably know if

1011
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was implicated in the Epstein files. Jeffrey Epstein, right,

1012
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: And who do you think Jeffrey Epstein would be talking

1013
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: to right after he was arrested in twenty nineteen his attorney, Right,

1014
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: would you believe that Donald Trump was actually brought up?

1015
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: David Schowen represented Epstein in the weeks leading up to

1016
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: his death in twenty nineteen. He did also previously represent Trump.

1017
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: He was asked this past I think it was June

1018
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: by TMZ. About a month later CNN Laura Coates, did

1019
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein ever implicate Donald Trump? Showan's answer was remarkably consistent.

1020
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, he said. He even asked that exact question. Trump,

1021
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: of course, at the time, was president of the United States.

1022
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: It would be very relevant. It would behoove Epstein to

1023
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: talk about famous people who were involved, to try to

1024
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: save his own skin, to try to get some immunity.

1025
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: Nothing showing exact words direct quote. He made clear that

1026
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: Donald Trump did nothing wrong and that he had no

1027
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: damaging information against him. He added that if Epstein had

1028
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: anything quote, he would have used it. Let's go out

1029
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: to the phones again, talk with Jack. Jack, you are

1030
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: on the Dan O'donnald show.

1031
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 9: It's going on, sir, Well, thank you very much for

1032
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 9: taking my call.

1033
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 8: I first of all want to say that I.

1034
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 9: Did vote for Trump on both elections. However, it is

1035
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 9: becoming very obvious that Donald Trump was never or this

1036
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 9: mega guy. He was courted into running for office when

1037
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 9: he got caught on that island many years ago, because

1038
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 9: he's an actor, and so one.

1039
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: Of the what's your evidence of that that he only

1040
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: ran for president, because that's a pretty bold claim, and

1041
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: bold claims require bold evidence. Sensational claims require sensational evidence.

1042
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: So clearly he was in some grand plot coerced into

1043
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: running for president of the United States because he was

1044
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: being blackmailed by pedophiles. What is the evidence of.

1045
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 9: That, Well, I don't have any written evidence obviously. However, okayously,

1046
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 9: I wonever. He was always friends with the Clintons, He

1047
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 9: was friends with Oprah Winfrey, and back in the nineteen

1048
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 9: eighty eight presidential life.

1049
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: Fan of Michael Jordan by any chance.

1050
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 8: Uh no, Michael, Mike, No, no, no.

1051
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: Because I was gonna say Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was

1052
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: a fan of Oprah Winfrey too. Did he retire from basketball?

1053
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: People because he.

1054
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 9: Was running in the Rainbow Coalition?

1055
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 8: Hear me out, He opened.

1056
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: Up all of his off trying.

1057
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,480
Speaker 8: For him to actually run for president.

1058
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:35,440
Speaker 9: That is a far cry from a mega white supremacist type.

1059
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 8: Image that he is portrayed as nowadays. He was always

1060
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 8: a very extreme liberal.

1061
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: I'll be totally honest with you, Jack, What you just

1062
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: said made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

1063
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Speaker 9: So, how well, we don't we look at the Why

1064
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 9: don't we look at the Epstein files and find out

1065
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 9: where George Bush had observed interracial sex with Okay, I mean,

1066
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 9: we never hear balt this anymore.

1067
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 6: So.

1068
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: George Bush Senior observed interracial sex. And this is proof

1069
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump was forced to run for president because

1070
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: he was being blackmailed by Oprah Winfrey. Why I asked

1071
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: you about Michael Jordan, Jack, that's not literally what you said.

1072
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 8: That's that's a two different topics.

1073
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 5: You also has nothing to do with it.

1074
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: Okay, then he was being blackmailed by by Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 1: I let you go on a bit longer than I

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: should have. Jack, I should have just hung up when

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01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: you said when I asked, you have any evidence of this,

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: and you said, no, Uh, this is sort of the problem,

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Speaker 1: and Jack, I mean no real disrespect by this. It

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: allows people who are not particularly bright and I that

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01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: that sounds bad, who are not totally able to put

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01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: together a logical train of thought. You noticed how he

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: was kind of We got from Oprah Winfrey to Jesse

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01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: Jackson to I don't know, after a sensational claim that's

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: not logical, that that's that's barely coherent. I think we've

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: got time for let's go to David. We've got time

1087
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: for one or two more calls. David, you're on the

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01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell show. Hello, Dan, Hey, what's going on?

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01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 7: Hey? I want to let you know right away, I

1090
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 7: only take cashiers chata.

1091
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I can.

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 7: Prove to you exactly everything that they're insinuating on the left. Sure,

1093
01:15:54,479 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 7: and that is this my own psychopathy. Wanted to believe

1094
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 7: this so hard. Yes, yes, and therefore it is true.

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: That is, there is no.

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01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 7: Convincing me otherwise. And you will have to take the

1097
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 7: evidence of my psychopathy to prove that Donald Trump is

1098
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 7: the dredge that he's not.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but.

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01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 7: Let's remember, let's not forget his daughter's diary about how

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01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 7: she talked about how she used to have to take

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01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 7: showers with him. Oh wait, I aggress that's somebody else.

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: So, David, I am very, very very tempted to give

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: you the thousand dollars because that is exactly what. Thank

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01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: you very much for the phone. He's obviously being facetious there,

1106
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: and I hate to say it, he kind of encapsulated

1107
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: the previous caller that what happens, And folks, I'll say

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01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people say what I go against my

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: better judgment. I will take more calls on this. I

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01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: am going to get into the Save Act and the

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01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: necessity of voter ID in the five o'clock hour as well.

1112
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: But this goes well deeper than Trump and Epstein and everything.

1113
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: This goes to like the very nature of how we

1114
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: think about things and when we're presented with fantastical ideas,

1115
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: how our brain wraps itself around the We're gonna take

1116
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: a break. I'm gonna have my producer line up some

1117
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: more calls. We are going to move on, but I

1118
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: will take some more Jeffrey Epstein related stuff as well.

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01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Dan o'donald show coming right back after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Dan o'donald Show. Just got this

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01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: text a second ago, very entertaining, referring to our last hour,

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01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: the Epstein challenge. Thank you. Your segment proves the point

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: that you can talk until you are blue in the

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: face with facts, but facts don't matter. Just a random

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: picture from who knows how where to the Trump haters

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: are proof enough that he is guilty. I think there

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01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: was some typos in there, but the point is well taken,

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: dear listener, that this is as another listener put it,

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01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: it's sort of like Plato is the Cave, which is

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01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: actually a fantastic analogy. Another listener said, it is proof

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01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: positive of my wife's theory that actual discourse between conservatives

1132
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: and liberals is largely impossible because the algorithms that liberals

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: consume actively hide the truth from them and only serve

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01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: to boost their prior convictions. They're previously held beliefs. It's

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01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: sort of like Clay Travis. Clay Travis was big college

1136
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 1: sports guy, right, big college football guys from SEC Country.

1137
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: At a couple of years ago, I think almost going

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01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: on three years ago now, I hosted an event with

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01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: him as a book tour stop, and we had a

1140
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 1: great talk, and he said that the traditional news media

1141
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: now is sort of like the old recruiting guides that

1142
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: he used to read in the days before the Internet.

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01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: Those recruiting guides were put out four fans of a

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01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: particular school, so they would be ra rah Alabama, they

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: would be raw rah lsu and they would never ever

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01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: ever contradict the prevailing narrative because they were designed to

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01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: be read by fans. He said, this is exactly how

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: the mainstream media is now. It is designed to be

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01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: consumed by fans of the Democrat Party, so they don't

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: dare to go against the prevailing wisdom. They don't dare

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 1: to go against the prevailing narrative, and they certainly don't

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01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: do anything that might elevate a competing point of view.

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: It's always is that LSU is going to win the

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01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: national championship. It's always that Alabama is and just had

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: the greatest college recruiting class of all time. My wife

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: made the point that because the algorithms literally select for

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01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: you in large measure based on who you're following, based

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: on what posts you interact with, what version of reality

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01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: you see, and because there's such a vested interest in

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 1: keeping liberals from actual reality, how else do you explain

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01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: the fact that in the days leading up to the

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01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty presidential election, we were being told that the

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: very real laptop, the Hunter Biden laptop, was Russian disinformation.

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01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: Would you believe there are still, six years later, people

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01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: on the left who think that the laptop was Russian

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 1: disinformation as a deliberate attempt because it was so devastating

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01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: for the candidate, Joe Biden, it was proof positive, it

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01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: was undeniable proof of pay to play corruption with a

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01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: Ukrainian energy company named Barisma Holdings, that they needed to

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01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: do something, and what they what they chose to do

1171
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 1: is just say well, it's not real. It's not a

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01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: real thing. Liberals dutifully regurgitated the it's not a real thing.

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01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: I think we can put a bow on the Epstein

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01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: challenge by taking one or two more calls. Let's go

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01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: to Arlin up next on the Dan O'Donnell show. It's

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: up Arlin.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, can you hear me? Okay?

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01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: I sure can alrighty.

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01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 7: I listened to you a lot, and I don't want

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01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 7: to get your thousand dollars because nobody's gonna be able

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01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 7: to get your thousand dollars. Because your ultimate answer is

1182
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 7: you can say to him, if there was anything at

1183
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 7: all there, Biden and his DOJ would have brought it

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01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 7: out when they had it for four years and never

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01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 7: did nothing with it.

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: And that's there was ultimately.

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Speaker 7: Trump, it would have been brought out right before the

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 7: election to crucify that he wouldn't have gotten reelected.

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Speaker 5: That's that's the logical going to get your thousand dollars.

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01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: And that's you know, there there is, Arlen. That's that's

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01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 1: ultimately what. That's the thing that that people who believe

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: that Trump is part of some pedophile ring have to

1193
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: get around. You're you're telling me. The people in charge

1194
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: of the DOJ for four years, whose entire election strategy

1195
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: ahead of twenty twenty four was to put Trump in prison,

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01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 1: had evidence, hard evidence that Trump was engaged in child

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01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: sex crimes, arguably the worst thing in human society that

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01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: that you can do, and they just said, ah, now,

1199
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: not going to do that, because what other people might

1200
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: be implicated. Give me a break. They wanted Trump, and

1201
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: they wanted Trump badly. The other thing, and you make

1202
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: a very very good point about this, Arlin, is that

1203
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: what this sort of is is and I've called this

1204
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: a something of a political and logical thinking Roarshack test.

1205
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 1: You can tell who's actually thinking logically about this stuff

1206
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: by the people who just don't regurgitate the talking points

1207
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: and who don't regurgitate well, I mean, he could have

1208
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: there was yeah, okay, two, you know, elements of potential crime, motive,

1209
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity, who has motive an opportunity. There also has

1210
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: to be some evidence in there that the crime was

1211
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: actually committed. For example, we had one very very self

1212
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,799
Speaker 1: assured liberal caller from all the way in San Diego

1213
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: who admitted, within the first five seconds, no, I don't

1214
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: have any evidence that Trump and Epstein raped this girl.

1215
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: But they could have. They could have, Okay, I mean

1216
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: you could have been, you know, sticking your thumb in

1217
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: your own rear end while you were talking about I

1218
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: don't have any proof of that, but you could have

1219
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: been doing it. That's not proof. He was convinced that, Okay,

1220
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: there was opportunity there. And because Trump clearly is a pedophile,

1221
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: then clearly this happened. So the main reason I wanted

1222
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: to do this, folks, I knew I was never going

1223
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: to give away one thousand dollars. Do you know why?

1224
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: Because there's no evidence that I can't refute none, not

1225
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: a single shred of evidence has ever tied Trump to

1226
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: any single Jeffrey Epstein crime, every accuser, even ones who

1227
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: were named in lawsuits. Do you know that the biggest

1228
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: accusation of Trump actually comes from not the Epstein files

1229
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: that were just released, but actually from a lawsuit. And

1230
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 1: one of the major allegations is from a Jane Doe

1231
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: who was later identified as Katie Johnson. Now, she foiled

1232
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: a lawsuit in twenty sixteen. Now what was going on

1233
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen Trump was running for president. She alleged

1234
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: Trump raped her at a party hosted by Epstein when

1235
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: she was thirteen. She said Epstein orchestrated this as part

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01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: of his sexual deviation and woman trafficking. The lawsuit was

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01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: filed twice. It was dropped both times. Plaintiff never provided

1238
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: any supporting evidence, never actually appeared in court. It was

1239
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: immediately dismissed as rather obviously politically motivated. How about this

1240
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 1: the Epstein Files. Underage girl said she was forced to

1241
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: perform a sex act with Trump about thirty five years

1242
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: ago in New Jersey. She's not exactly sure. Sometime around

1243
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, the DOJ explicitly stated that

1244
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: this claim was quote untrue and sensationalist, submitted anonymously to

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01:26:55,720 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 1: the FBI right before the twenty twenty four election without

1246
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:06,879
Speaker 1: any verification. How about this nineteen ninety three, Trump groped

1247
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: and sexually assaulted a woman, a model by the name

1248
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: of Stacy Williams. She claimed Trump was introduced to her

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01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: by Epstein and Trump groped her. She said it was

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01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: some twisted game between Trump and Epstein. There's no corroboration

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01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:34,919
Speaker 1: of that whatsoever. Stacey Williams said nothing about it until again,

1252
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: right before an election DJ reviews it found no credible

1253
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: link to anything. Twenty twenty five. How about another allegation

1254
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 1: Trump and Epstein both raped a woman DJ once again untrue, unsubstantiated,

1255
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: anonymous tip, no evidence came out when right before the

1256
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: election absolutely unreal. Epstein did say at one point Trump

1257
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: quote knew about the girls that were recruited by Julane

1258
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: Maxwell from marl Lago. One email from apparently the same

1259
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: person said Trump spent hours and hours with Virginia Giuffrey

1260
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 1: at Epstein's house. Giuffrey said repeatedly, while under oath, Trump

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: was not involved in any wrongdoing, never participated in any abuse.

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01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 1: I I there's no evidence, there is none. People believe

1263
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: this stuff any way, though, because they want to believe in.

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01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: What I always say about about conspiracy theories is that

1265
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: it is comforting for the believer because a if there

1266
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: is a shadowy cabal of people who secretly control the

1267
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: entire world, the real terrifying thing about the world is

1268
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: somewhat alleviated its randomness, The idea that there's there's no coincidences, that,

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01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: going all the way back to the granddaddy of all

1270
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, that there was some global network or maybe

1271
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: it was the all powerful FBI or CIA that killed

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01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy. That provides some level of order that

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01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 1: the truth some random dude with a male order rifle

1274
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: and some training in marksmanship from the military was able

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01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 1: to kill the president bring the nation to its neees.

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01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: Or how about this that it was it's actually George W. Bush,

1277
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: acting at the behest of Dick Cheney and global elites

1278
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 1: that brought down the Twin Towers. It wasn't just twenty

1279
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Saudi radicals led by a psychopathic terrorist armed with box

1280
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: cutters that again brought the country to its knees on

1281
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. It's somewhat more comforting. Not only that,

1282
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: not only that, what does the conspiracy theory do to

1283
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: the believer? It gives them a sense of superiority, that

1284
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: they know the secret knowledge that nobody else does. They

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Speaker 1: are special and they can look down on everybody else

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Speaker 1: because everybody else is just they're just sheep. They don't

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Speaker 1: know the truth. Only they know the truth. Well, that's weird,

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Speaker 1: random person who spends all his time online. How is

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Speaker 1: it that everybody else who investigates this stuff for a

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Speaker 1: living is not privy to this? But you happen to

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Speaker 1: recognize all of the patterns in songs released by Jay

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Speaker 1: Z as breadcrumbs, as little pieces of evidence that there

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Speaker 1: is a global conspiracy ring, or the fact that there

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Speaker 1: is the recurring number four in a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: significant dates, or something like that. That that is evidence.

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Speaker 1: That's not that's borderline schizophrenic. But when it confirms your worldview,

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Speaker 1: it puts you on a pedestal of knowledge and in

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Speaker 1: your own mind respect that you know something the rest

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Speaker 1: of the world doesn't. The Epstein case is a perfect

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Speaker 1: Rarshack test for this, for all of it politically motivated

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Speaker 1: prior beliefs. Of course, people are going to believe that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's a pedophile if they don't like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Same goes for Reid Hoffman, biggest single donor to the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party of Wisconsin. Is there any evidence that he

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Speaker 1: did anything illegal with Jeffrey Epstein? Nope, Using the Democrat's

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Speaker 1: own standard, as I am so glad our good friends

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Speaker 1: at Wisconsin right now, did they're calling for him? Tom Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: the candidate for governor Republican candidate for governor, saying returned

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Speaker 1: the fifteen million dollars Wisconsin Dems Reid Hoffman went to

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Speaker 1: Epstein Island. He was having sleepover parties in New York

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Speaker 1: and New Mexico with Jeffrey Epstein. After Epstein's conviction, there

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Speaker 1: is Do you realize there's no evidence that Trump and

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein had any tie to each other after Epstein's

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Speaker 1: first arrest in two thousand and five none or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. The relationships supposedly ended in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five, and there's no documentation of anything afterwards.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter to people because they believe that

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Speaker 1: Trump must be a criminal. They believe that there must

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Speaker 1: be some shadowy kbal that's secretly running everything, and oh,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you know it? Do you know who that secret cabal?

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Speaker 1: Invariably is the Jews? It always, no matter what, it

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Speaker 1: always comes back to some version of anti Semitism. Epstein

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Speaker 1: was Jewish, and yes, he repeatedly uses what essentially amounts

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Speaker 1: to a slur for gentiles, goyam. It's a Yiddish word.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what it translates to, but it's

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Speaker 1: sort of like it's kind of like honkey for Jewish people.

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Speaker 1: Is that evidence that there's some secret Jewish cabal. My

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Speaker 1: favorite is well, he's secretly spying for Israel. Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: there is actually some evidence that there was some international

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Speaker 1: Julane Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, is a very very well

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Speaker 1: known covert op somewhat paradoxically well known. He was working

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Speaker 1: with British intelligence. Could he have recruited Jeffrey? Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: I'm open to that possibility. In fact, one of the prosecutors,

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Speaker 1: when Epstein got just this insane sweetheart plea deal in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, said, look, we didn't go after

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Speaker 1: him because we were told he's above our pay grade.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that Epstein is trying to blackmail public figure?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Sure, I'd love to see some evidence, though there isn't.

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Speaker 1: go to Jason up next on the Dan o'donald show.

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Speaker 1: I promised I was going to get into I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get into voter idea. And it's important, folks. This

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Speaker 1: is such important stuff because it's not even about Epstein,

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Speaker 1: it's not even about Trump. It is about how information

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Speaker 1: is presented to us, how we process it in an

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01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: age of information just non stop being being blasted at

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Speaker 1: us out of a bazooka, and how our brains filter it,

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Speaker 1: and how we remain sane and how we keep our

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Speaker 1: critical thinking in the era of NonStop information. All right, Jason,

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Speaker 1: you're up next on the Dan o'donald Show.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Dan, afternoon. I know Trump is guilty because Bill

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01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 10: from Kanawak is busy running through those million plus pages

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01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 10: of the documents finding something and he's too busy to

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Speaker 10: call into you.

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Speaker 1: He actually did. Did we have a verified call from Bill?

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Speaker 1: And okay, he did try calling in. He gave up

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Speaker 1: after I went to a couple of others. I always

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Speaker 1: welcome Bill's calls. Uh, but again he's he's another one,

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Speaker 1: God bless him, who is so like Okay, he is

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Speaker 1: so and and and you know for me to sit here, well, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he is. He's so invested in proving

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Speaker 1: himself right. And look, I'm not going to sit here

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Speaker 1: on some tower and claim that, oh my gosh, I'm

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Speaker 1: the the ultimate and critical thinking and all this. I

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Speaker 1: have to constantly fight against my own preconceived biases.

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Speaker 3: We all do.

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Speaker 1: If do you have any idea, Jason, how many tips

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Speaker 1: I get, how many news stories I get that I

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Speaker 1: have to filter through, and it's like, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: evidence of extreme corruption in this community. I want that

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Speaker 1: to be true. Not that I want, you know, your

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Speaker 1: local community to be corrupt, but it would be a

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Speaker 1: great store. I'd love to break it open. It would

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Speaker 1: be beneficial to me. So I constantly have to fight

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Speaker 1: that and say, Okay, what are the facts here? How

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Speaker 1: do I dig through, sift through what is or is

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Speaker 1: not true, and only glom onto the things that are.

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Speaker 1: I realize that, And this is why.

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Speaker 7: It's so.

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Speaker 1: It's so important to be cognizant of what information you're

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Speaker 1: consuming and from whom, because it just I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at and I hate to use this example because I

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Speaker 1: like both of them, but both of them have gone

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Speaker 1: truly off the defense. Look at what's happened to Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson and Candice Owens just in the last year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's downright sad. Like Candice Owans, I am truly

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Speaker 1: concerned might be illusional the stuff about Charlie Kirk being

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Speaker 1: a time traveler. For goodness sakes, she genuinely is positing

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Speaker 1: that on her podcast that Charlie Kirk had special abilities

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Speaker 1: that the government was monitoring from the time he was

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Speaker 1: like seven years old. That's not rational. Tucker Carlson appears

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Speaker 1: to have gone full blown anti semi It breaks my heart.

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Speaker 1: I was the biggest Tucker Carlson fan when he was

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Speaker 1: on Fox News, but he needed the editorial guard rails

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01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: because left to his own devices in an independent media platform,

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Speaker 1: he falls back on baseless conspiracy theorizing, even like Alex Jones.

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones, I think is actually, in terms of technical skill,

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Speaker 1: one of the single greatest broadcasters of the last fifty years.

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Speaker 1: He's incredibly funny, he's engaging, he's passionate. He draws you in.

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Speaker 1: You can't stop watching him. And what he does is

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Speaker 1: what I'm noticing a lot more people on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the political divide using. He's taking a grain of truth,

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Speaker 1: but then he's concocting something using that grain, using that

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Speaker 1: true thing as a seed to plant not a tree,

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Speaker 1: but in an entire forest of increasingly impossible logical leaps.

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Speaker 1: That because he's such a charismatic broadcaster, his audience follows

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Speaker 1: him on and abandons critical thought, abandons critical reasoning. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, let's take it back to the Epstein example.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane eight times air go.

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Speaker 1: That is a fact. That is that is that is

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Speaker 1: co operated by flight logs. That is a fact. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump raped a woman on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane. That's

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Speaker 1: literally what a caller tried to claim, even while saying no,

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Speaker 1: I don't have any evidence of that. But because Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump was on Epstein's plane years before, and it should

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Speaker 1: be noted, years before anybody knew about his sex trafficking.

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Speaker 1: Because of that, my prior belief that Trump must be

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Speaker 1: a pedophile, Trump must be a criminal is confirmed. That's

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Speaker 1: not critical thinking. That is you getting half of the

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Speaker 1: story and planting your own forest of misinformation. You know,

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Speaker 1: And folks, that's the thing, misinformation. It's it is out there,

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Speaker 1: and I I do my damnedst for three hours a

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Speaker 1: day plus pretty much old day on social media to

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Speaker 1: combat it and to try to say, look, we are

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Speaker 1: only focused on the facts here. All right, we will

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Speaker 1: get into this save act. I promise stay tuned. Dan

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Speaker 1: o'donald's show coming back in just a second, folks. I'm

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Speaker 1: just as shocked as anybody that the Libs were not

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Speaker 1: able to prove in the hour I gave them that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a pedophile. They've only repeated that for

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Speaker 1: what eight straight months, Let's see, it was about seven

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Speaker 1: straight months July, six straight months, little more July. It's

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Speaker 1: remarkable how this Epstein narrative played out for literal years.

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Speaker 1: For six years, Democrats were telling conservatives that they were

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Speaker 1: conspiracy mongers for saying Epstein didn't kill himself, which was

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Speaker 1: really more of a meme, I think than anything else

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Speaker 1: than a genuine belief in the Epstein conspiracy theories. But

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Speaker 1: then as soon as Pam Bondi completely botched the rollout

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Speaker 1: of Epstein file releases after the fourth of July holiday

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Speaker 1: weekend and Elon Musk frankly did nobody any favors by

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Speaker 1: saying Trump is in the Epstein files, that's why they

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Speaker 1: haven't been released, Democrats went into overdrive. Clearly, the talking

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Speaker 1: points went out, Trump is a pedophile. All Republicans are

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Speaker 1: pedophile defenders. He's hiding something. There's never any proof of this,

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Speaker 1: of course, and that's why I wanted to do the

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Speaker 1: Epstein challenge. Today Democrats can't ever provide any proof because

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Speaker 1: they don't think deeply enough about the talking points that

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Speaker 1: they're spoon fed to be able.

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Speaker 7: To do so.

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Speaker 1: I can debate anything and be almost guaranteed that whomever

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01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 1: my opponent is is simply not going to have the

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Speaker 1: baseline of knowledge because they don't. They aren't presented with

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Speaker 1: the truth. They're presented only with It's like Pravda. It

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Speaker 1: is literally like the Soviet Union after the easing of

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Speaker 1: tensions and after Yeltsin or I guess it was Gorbachev said,

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Speaker 1: was it parastryker or Glassnhost. I always get those two confused.

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Speaker 1: I was way too young when the Berlin Wall fell.

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Speaker 1: Whichever one was the opening up and the telling the

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Speaker 1: truth to the people, Is that perastroika? They yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was parastrika. Okay, that's what I thought. Glass notes, Glass notes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're even worse than I. If you're like ten years

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Speaker 1: older than me, Producer Eric, you should remember this. You're

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Speaker 1: like a team. Okay, yeah you were, and you were

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Speaker 1: caring more in high school about girls and parties than

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Speaker 1: you were about Glassnost and Perestroika. Well, when when the

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Speaker 1: policy of glass Gnost was adopted, the school children sort

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Speaker 1: of revolted and they had to cancel their final exaster

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Speaker 1: because the kids were like, so everything we were taught

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Speaker 1: is not true. How are we supposed to have history exams?

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Speaker 1: That's sort of how I feel right now with Democrats,

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Speaker 1: they just are It's not even their fault. They're never

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Speaker 1: presented with the truth because it contradicts the party's official line.

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Speaker 1: So why that line? In nineteen eighty four, the party

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Speaker 1: told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.

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Speaker 1: It was their final, most essential command. It is so

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Speaker 1: prescient of where we are, and let's not forget folks.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four absolutely was a cautionary tale about socialism. Well,

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Speaker 1: the socialists that we have in power in the United

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Speaker 1: States here in twenty twenty six do the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: They tell you to reject the evidence of your eyes

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Speaker 1: and ears. Joe Biden was clearly mentally enfeebled in the

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Speaker 1: days leading up to the debate, performance that cost him

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Speaker 1: his run for the presidency. He was wandering off, and

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Speaker 1: the media and the White House Press secretary at the time,

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Speaker 1: Karee and John Pierre were saying, no, no, those are

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Speaker 1: cheap fake videos. You can't believe that that's Republicans. They're no.

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Speaker 1: We can see him wandering off like there's there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: This is unedited video. The president is walking away looking confused.

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Speaker 1: There was one where he literally finishes his speech, turns

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Speaker 1: around and walks off into the jungle. Actually made me

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Speaker 1: did we find him? Is he okay? They told you

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Speaker 1: to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears, just

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Speaker 1: like you are told to accept the idea that voter

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Speaker 1: ID is. Ray Harry Enton of CNN, their data guru,

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Speaker 1: one of the few relatively honest brokers in traditional media,

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Speaker 1: through cold water all over that nonsense this morning on

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Speaker 1: CNN this morning, responding to a tweet by who else,

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Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj, the newest MAGA superstar, saying we need to

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Speaker 1: have voter ID. This as President Trump is trying to

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Speaker 1: pass enhanced voter protection and a billy's calling the Save

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Speaker 1: America Act, which would, among other things, mandate voter ID

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Speaker 1: at all federal elections across the country. Enton cited polling

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Speaker 1: data that shows people of every race overwhelmingly want voter ID.

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Speaker 11: Take a look your favorite photo ID to vote. Eighty

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Speaker 11: five percent of white people favorite, eighty two percent of Latino,

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Speaker 11: seventy six percent of black American's favorite. So the bottom

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Speaker 11: line is this, voter ID is not controversial in this country.

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Speaker 11: A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country.

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Speaker 11: It is not controversial by party, and it is not

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Speaker 11: controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with

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Speaker 11: Nicki Minaj that, in fact, you should have a photo

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Speaker 11: ID to be able to vote.

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Speaker 1: What have Democrats been telling us it's racist to expect,

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Speaker 1: especially black people to have a photo ID. That belief

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Speaker 1: is actually remarkably racist. How about by party? Would you

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Speaker 1: believe that seventy one percent of Democrats believe you should

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Speaker 1: have to show a photo ID.

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Speaker 11: Normally you might expect, hey, there'd be a big divide

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Speaker 11: by party, but Republicans really fording Democrats really against it.

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Speaker 11: But not really here, I mean, just take a look here,

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Speaker 11: favorite photo IDA vot You got ninety five percent of Republicans,

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Speaker 11: pretty much all of them, but even seventy one percent

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Speaker 11: of Democrats favorite photo ID to vote.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible? There is a tiny minority twenty

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Speaker 1: nine percent of Democrats that equates to maybe fourteen percent

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Speaker 1: of the country believes that somehow voter ID is racist

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Speaker 1: and they oppose it. Why do we not have voter

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Speaker 1: ID Because they have been able to get the rest

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Speaker 1: of us, or at least those of us in positions

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Speaker 1: to change this sort of thing, to reject the evidence

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Speaker 1: of our eyes and ears, and get even other Democrats

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Speaker 1: to go along with the patently untrue talking point that

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Speaker 1: voter ID is somehow racist and would disenfranchise, especially minority voters.

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Speaker 1: Big news surrounding the NBA trade market. What does it

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Speaker 1: mean for the Bucks and Giannis. We'll get into that next.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I don't think Gianni Santa Decumpo

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Speaker 1: is going to be moved before the trade deadline, which

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Speaker 1: is what Thursday afternoon two o'clock pm Central Time. A

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Speaker 1: lot of teams made trades today, and the belief a

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Speaker 1: lot of them were going to be waiting for the

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Speaker 1: Yannis Domino to fall, meaning teams like the Golden State Warriors,

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Miami Heat that they were going

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Speaker 1: to make the aggressive move for a Yannis. Look, folks,

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Speaker 1: right now, nobody knows anything. My guess is that eventually

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Speaker 1: he is traded. I thought a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: the way things were going, I mean, I guess I

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Speaker 1: would have thought that the Bucks were getting very good

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Speaker 1: offers for Yannis. Supposedly they've been underwhelmed and the only

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Speaker 1: team that Yannis will commit to potentially signing a long

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Speaker 1: term deal to there are two teams, one the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Timberwolves and two the Miami Heat. And I'm also told

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Speaker 1: he does not want to play in another Superstars shadow

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Speaker 1: like Steph Curry and Golden State or presumably Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: in Minneso Soda. So that pretty much leaves the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 1: who probably have the best package to offer, centered around

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Speaker 1: yes Tyler Hero and an expiring contract for Terry Rozier

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Speaker 1: and kelll Ware, who's a good center. But they've just

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Speaker 1: got a ton of draft picks, and that would seem

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Speaker 1: to be the most tempting offer, but it apparently isn't enough.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam, who is the newest Bucks owner. He bought

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Speaker 1: the shares that were sold by Mark Lazry. He's also

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Speaker 1: the principal owner of the NFL's Cleveland Browns, and like

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Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL, he is in the Bay

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Speaker 1: Area for Super Bowl Week. Today was media day and

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Speaker 1: a number of Milwaukee reporters caught up with him and

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Speaker 1: asked him about Joannis. I don't know, top three, top

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Speaker 1: four player in the world.

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Speaker 5: He brock Milwaukee it's first championship in fifty years several

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Speaker 5: years ago.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And he's a really good person too.

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Speaker 1: He's no problem. He's a great leader, tries hard. And

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Speaker 1: I think Giannis and the Bucks and this goes back

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Speaker 1: before we're involved.

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Speaker 7: Have always worked closely to see what's best for Giannis

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Speaker 7: and what's best for the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: And will continue to do is okay, So what what

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Speaker 1: are the Bucks care? What's best for you? They've tried.

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Speaker 1: This team has tried to do what's best for Yannis

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Speaker 1: for like six years now, since they won that championship

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Speaker 1: in twenty one. What have they done? How many antetakoumpos

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Speaker 1: are currently on the Bucks roster? Well beyond that, Jannis

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Speaker 1: was the one who apparently pushed for the disastrous trade

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Speaker 1: for Damian Lillard. In hindsight, who would have guessed that

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Speaker 1: a guy who is ball dominant and doesn't play any defense,

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Speaker 1: is not go. Look, the reality is that trade could

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Speaker 1: have worked, but both Yannis and Dame dalla or just

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Speaker 1: too injured. They just did not ever play on the

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Speaker 1: court together, never even got a playoff series together, one

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Speaker 1: of the ultimate what might have been scenarios in Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Bucks history. But look, I think the Bucks need to

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Speaker 1: do what's best for the Bucks organization. Giannis is a

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Speaker 1: free agent after next season. He can sign wherever he

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Speaker 1: damn well pleases. Wouldn't that be something I got to

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Speaker 1: give credit where credits due, but I can't remember where

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Speaker 1: I saw this on X Could you imagine if he

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Speaker 1: extorts the Miami Heat for all of their draft picks

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Speaker 1: Tyler Hero and then just signs right back with the

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Speaker 1: Bucks in twenty twenty seven. I don't think that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. I think ultimately he wants to get to Miami,

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Speaker 1: he wants to get to the Knicks. He wants to

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Speaker 1: get to a team that's going to win, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks are not a team that's going to win.

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Speaker 1: And also, very quickly, can we talk about the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: I know I'm biased, and my heart was broken yet

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Speaker 1: again by the Green Bay Packers in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Can you remember a super Bowl where there is less buzz,

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Speaker 1: where there is less excitement, where there's less anticipation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm going to a super Bowl party. It'll

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Speaker 1: be fun. I can't remember ever being less jazzed for

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Maybe it's the halftime show. Bad Bunny

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Speaker 1: is apparently going to be an address. You know, damn well,

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Speaker 1: he's going to use the opportunity to rail against ice

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Speaker 1: in front of a global audience. And of course I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have to talk about it the next day,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not especially looking forward to that. I guess.

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell today during his media appearance, said that the

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Speaker 1: NFL is so proud of Bad Bunny because he recognizes

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Speaker 1: the moment that we're in right now, and he met

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Speaker 1: that moment at the Grammys, and this is one of

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Speaker 1: the big reasons that we chose him as our halftime entertainment.

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Speaker 1: And oh, rog know your audience, buddy, Please know your audience.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Dan O'Donnell show. Easily my favorite

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Speaker 1: story of the day. Two days after Billy Eilish, the

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Speaker 1: Grammy winning singer, in one of our acceptance speeches said

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Speaker 1: that no one is illegal on stolen land. The Tongva

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Speaker 1: tribe of the Los Angeles area confirms that Billy Eilish's

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Speaker 1: house is in fact on ancestral land belonging to the Tongva.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't bad enough. A dude from England has taken

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Speaker 1: up a collection and he is flying to America and

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Speaker 1: he is going to live in a tent on Billy

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Speaker 1: Eilish's property. Naturally, it's going to have to be right

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Speaker 1: outside her gate. She lives in a gated community and

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Speaker 1: it has a gated property. But he is going to

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Speaker 1: do so. And if he is ever called for trespassing

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Speaker 1: on her land, if the police are ever called, he

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Speaker 1: is going to say, how can I possibly be trespassing?

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Speaker 1: This is stolen land. No one is illegal on stolen land.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens, ladies and gentlemen. Just like with

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Speaker 1: the Epstein challenge, when you actually force liberals to logically

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01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: defend their points of view, doesn't make a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. Does it have a lot of fun? Today?

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Speaker 1: We're back again to do it tomorrow three h six.

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Speaker 1: Right here on the Dan O'Donnell Show,