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Speaker 2: And that answer right there.

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Speaker 4: So with that and knowing Kyler Murray's a lot in life. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what do you think he means because you just said

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Speaker 4: something there too that and use that name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I've had some conversations with people about this.

439
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Speaker 1: They are very excited about his voice in the offense.

440
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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the run game stuff that

441
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Speaker 1: they did in Miami that Mike McDaniel did, you know

442
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Speaker 1: when it was kind of taking the lead by storm.

443
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Speaker 1: Frank Smith was very involved in that. I know there

444
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Speaker 1: was a lot of intrigue about him speaking into that

445
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Speaker 1: piece of the offense. So I think because of the

446
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Speaker 1: background that he brings to it, you are going to

447
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Speaker 1: see some different permutations of this offense this year. It's

448
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Speaker 1: not just great to get sneaky. Well, I think there's

449
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Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be more diverse. I think it's

450
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Speaker 1: gonna be more eclectic with the run game. I think

451
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of ideas about how to pair those

452
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Speaker 1: two things together. I mean, you hear about the marriage

453
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Speaker 1: of the run in the pass all the time, but

454
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Speaker 1: I think there is interest in bringing some of what

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Speaker 1: you saw in Miami to Minnesota. And I also thought

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Speaker 1: it was very interesting when Kevin O'Connell was talking about

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I asked something about how he fits in

458
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Speaker 1: the offense, and he brought up very quickly the process

459
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Speaker 1: of trying to solve the way teams cover Justin Jefferson

460
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Speaker 1: and are so focused on taking him away, and he

461
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Speaker 1: mentioned the running quarterback, and then I followed up on

462
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Speaker 1: it again a little bit later and he said, yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: it's something that teams have to consider. And I thought

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Speaker 1: it was really interesting because we have not known Kevin

465
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Speaker 1: O'Connell to be a guy that says, yeah, I want

466
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Speaker 1: a running quarterback to be a major component of my offense.

467
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Speaker 1: I think I think even when Josh Dobbs was here,

468
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Speaker 1: it was yeah, if the play breaks down, let's extend

469
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Speaker 1: it or pick up a start with the legs. But

470
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Speaker 1: I don't think they wanted to lean on that as

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Speaker 1: a primary part of the offense. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: that that's going to happen here either, But I just

473
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Speaker 1: think it was interesting to hear it because that comment

474
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Speaker 1: struck me as a guy who has been banging his

475
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Speaker 1: head against the wall for four years about everybody puts

476
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Speaker 1: so much attention on number eighteen and they're so focused

477
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Speaker 1: on taking him away. How do we make them pay

478
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Speaker 1: for that? And you add TJ. Hockinson, you add Jordan Edison,

479
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Speaker 1: and people still do it. So I think there's a

480
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Speaker 1: little bit of let's change the math. If you want

481
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Speaker 1: to keep two safeties back, that means you have one

482
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Speaker 1: less than the box. And Kyler now is somebody you

483
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Speaker 1: have to account for. If you decide you want to

484
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Speaker 1: play man cop. Nobody plays man coverage against them. But

485
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Speaker 1: if you tried to do that, then you've got your

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Speaker 1: back turn and the quarterback can get out and run.

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Speaker 2: That's okay.

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Speaker 4: So what you just said there, I think I mean

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Speaker 4: if Kyling is a JJ antidote, a little bit if wow,

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Speaker 4: well an anidote well explained. Yeah if And I don't

491
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Speaker 4: know if Kyler's good at recognizing matters zone, Yeah, if

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Speaker 4: he is and it's consistent, or say he's okay at

493
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Speaker 4: it and he puts more time into it and gets

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Speaker 4: good at it.

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Speaker 2: Here, I mean, you know what it looks like, man.

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Speaker 4: If quarterbacks who naturally can run like Kyler, Yeah, you

497
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Speaker 4: break the pocket and you catch them with their backs

498
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Speaker 4: turned to you. Well, that's twenty two yards for this guy,

499
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Speaker 4: I mean right out of the gate right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I think they're intrigued by the pick your

501
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Speaker 1: poison element of this, where it's like, fine, if you

502
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Speaker 1: want to keep all of these defenders on justin Jefferson,

503
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Speaker 1: we put him on one side, we roll Kyler out

504
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Speaker 1: to the other side, and there's all sorts of space

505
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Speaker 1: over here. They talk all the time about finding open grass,

506
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Speaker 1: attacking open grass, finding voids and vacancies. I think there's

507
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Speaker 1: intrigue about where Kyler Murray's athletic ability could create more

508
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Speaker 1: of those things. Again, I don't think this is going

509
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Speaker 1: to be all the time. I don't think they're going

510
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Speaker 1: to go start running zone reed stuff all the time

511
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Speaker 1: and have him with the ball in his hands constantly

512
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Speaker 1: because they have to keep him healthy too, and that's

513
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Speaker 1: been a big question with him. But you have I mean,

514
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has done a lot of readoption stuff in

515
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Speaker 1: his career. Two, not that that's going to be a

516
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Speaker 1: huge focus at this point. But McCarthy scored price last year. Yes,

517
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Speaker 1: the one where he graded it in the end zone.

518
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Speaker 1: They told him not to do it. That was on

519
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Speaker 1: a read option play the first game of the year

520
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Speaker 1: against the Bears. He won the game on a readoption.

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Speaker 1: You did, Yep, totally. So I think there's enough of

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Speaker 1: that They've They've brought enough people in with that skill

523
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Speaker 1: set that when you see them moving that way, it's like, Yeah,

524
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Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that you kind of

525
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Speaker 1: file in your the back of your mind that this

526
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Speaker 1: could be a little more of.

527
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Speaker 2: A prominent flavor in this offense this year. Fascinating.

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Speaker 5: APA, And this is brand from Corkoran with regards to

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Speaker 5: the Kyler Murray coming to the Vikings and the turn

540
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Speaker 5: of the uncertain future of JJ McCarthy. I think this

541
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Speaker 5: is quite the exact perfect opportunity we could hope for

542
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Speaker 5: for JJ to season behind the guy who is even

543
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Speaker 5: more undersund but plays bigger and learn to understand the

544
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Speaker 5: nuances of the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Give them time to season, all right, Benny g Ben

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Speaker 4: Gesling nine to noon, ten thirty five. Let's see I'm

547
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Speaker 4: gonna land the Kyler playing here because Ben had some

548
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Speaker 4: incredibly interesting things to say about the Minnesota Vikings offense.

549
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Speaker 4: Much of what you would get when he and the

550
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Speaker 4: cast do access Vikings the podcast or we have the

551
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Speaker 4: newsletter or at Ben Gestlin via x. And of course

552
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Speaker 4: there are the stories in the newspaper or Star Tribune

553
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Speaker 4: dot com. But before Ryan Vandamark and some other things

554
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Speaker 4: that are new. With everything you just laid out about

555
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Speaker 4: the Kyler Murray threat, the Frank Smith aside, reading man

556
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Speaker 4: compared to zone and running like the wind and or

557
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Speaker 4: chasing the wind. There was a lot with Jones and

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Speaker 4: Mason in the fold. Does it make sense to identify

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Speaker 4: running back in the draft Thursday or Friday during the draft,

560
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Speaker 4: so round one, two or three? Because I came into

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Speaker 4: this being like you know, I mean, Aaron's in and

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Speaker 4: out a little bit and Mason. You can win with

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Speaker 4: Mason consistently. I mean, I know he got hurt at

564
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Speaker 4: some point last year, but generally speaking, that's not part

565
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Speaker 4: of his calling card. But he also has limitations with

566
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Speaker 4: the way he plays. So now and Chandler Leaves went

567
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Speaker 4: to New Orleans? Right, yeah, all right, so Jones, Mason,

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Speaker 4: But this whole speed thing that you're laying out there

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Speaker 4: with Murray and break in the pocket and the Frank

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Speaker 4: Smith aside and next level Shanny concepts and things like that,

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love or fast running back, Emma Johnson just just whatever.

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Speaker 4: I mean, would you be surprised if they moved on

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Speaker 4: a running back quite high in the draft.

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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised by that.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance that they do

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Speaker 1: that because very good you say, yeah, because I think

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Speaker 1: the concept of what they're trying to do and what

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Speaker 1: we just talked about with some of the Frank Smith stuff,

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Speaker 1: some of the McDaniel stuff that they I think have

580
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Speaker 1: been impressed by. I think it makes sense there. And

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Speaker 1: you also have to think about the future there where

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, you know, is going to be thirty one here,

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Speaker 1: I think they actually turns I want to say thirty Yeah,

584
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Speaker 1: that maybe even thirty two in December. So you got

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Speaker 1: to think about that going forward. And Jordan Mason is

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Speaker 1: a certain type of running back, but I think you

587
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Speaker 1: could use the move. I think we talked about it

588
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Speaker 1: a little bit, the thunder and lightning. You suddenly the

589
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Speaker 1: lightning part of this, and Aaron Jones still has some speed,

590
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Speaker 1: but we've seen it towards the end of seasons where

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Speaker 1: just the hits in the and the wear and tearor

592
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Speaker 1: slows him down a little bit. So I think it

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense for the continued investment in

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Speaker 1: that position. And I would not be surprised if one

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Speaker 1: of those top one hundred pick is on a running back.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, we'll deal with would they keep this guy

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Speaker 4: or would they keep that guy? Even though this guy's

599
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Speaker 4: here under this redone contract. All that that's for another time.

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Speaker 4: Offensive lineman Ryan van Demark, Yes, swing lineman from the Bills,

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Speaker 4: Ben wrote was attained quote with a savvy bit of

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Speaker 4: pricing from Rob Razinski and crew end quote.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this was an interesting one because the Bills,

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Speaker 1: from my understanding, wanted to keep him and obviously had

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Speaker 1: put the RFA tag on him. And you're kind of thinking, Okay,

607
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Speaker 1: are they going to let a guy go because he

608
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Speaker 1: is versatile, He's played both sides, both tackle positions, he's

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Speaker 1: so relatively young, and the Vikings, like a lot of teams, say,

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Speaker 1: if we have versatility at this position, somebody we can

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Speaker 1: plug in on either side if there's an injury. It's

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Speaker 1: important because those guys are really hard to find during

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Speaker 1: the season. We've seen them prioritize it, whether it was

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Speaker 1: just in school, even keeping oli Udo when they made

615
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Speaker 1: the trade for Cam Robinson, that was because they needed

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Speaker 1: a starter, but offensive line depth, it's part of the

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Speaker 1: reason Blake Brandell has been here. That is something that

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Speaker 1: it's an insurance policy that you need to have, because

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Speaker 1: if you lose a guy and you're starting five in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the season, it becomes a big problem.

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Speaker 1: As we saw with them just about in every spot

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Speaker 1: other than right guard last year. I think the Bills

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Speaker 1: wanted to keep them. The Vikings knew that the Bills

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Speaker 1: are also tight against the cap, so they're balling on

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Speaker 1: a budget. Yeah, the Bills are as well, but the

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Speaker 1: Vikings knew if we put this off for just a

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Speaker 1: little bit higher than they're willing to match, I mean

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Speaker 1: kind of understanding where the walkaway price was going to be.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of what went into this from

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Speaker 1: my understanding was, Yeah, it's Robertszinski, it's Matt Thomas, Emily Betis.

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Speaker 1: That is a department with I mean, two guys that

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Speaker 1: have done this for a long long time. And Emily

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Speaker 1: Betas is somebody in that building that her thought process,

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Speaker 1: her level of knowledge of all of these things is

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Speaker 1: very highly respected. So a lot of all of those

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Speaker 1: things came to bear on this one. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a couple hundred thousand dollars here and there.

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Speaker 1: But it's enough. It's knowing where the walkaway price is

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Speaker 1: if I if I priced.

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Speaker 2: This thing in the auction here.

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Speaker 1: We all do this in fantasy football drafts, and this

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Speaker 1: is not fantasy ball.

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Speaker 2: This is real people's money.

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Speaker 1: But it's the same thing of what's the pain point

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Speaker 1: for this person that's going to make them go you

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Speaker 1: know what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to, but it's too much. And I

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Speaker 2: think a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of what they did to get him in here was

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Speaker 1: just understanding that at a pretty nuanced level.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that maybe that's what the Saints did

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Speaker 4: with Ryan Wright?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think four years, eight million guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things where it's, you know,

655
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Speaker 1: a guy that I think they would.

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Speaker 2: Have wanted to keep.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Ryan Wright was a guy they

658
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Speaker 1: would have very much liked to keep on a new deal.

659
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Speaker 1: But the Saints knowing, yeah, it's going to be we

660
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Speaker 1: can see there's their cap space just like everybody else can.

661
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Speaker 1: We can project what they're going to need to do.

662
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Speaker 1: They're not going to spend this on a punter. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I think Brian Vandimar coming a little bit

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Speaker 1: later in free agency where you had some things settled

665
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Speaker 1: and you say, Okay, we know some of these positions

666
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Speaker 1: are going to be relatively cheap. We've done some restructures

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00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: for cap space purposes. That probably was an easier deal

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Speaker 1: to do, you know, a little later in a free

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Speaker 1: agency than.

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Speaker 2: Than it would have been right away.

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Speaker 4: So so swing lineman from the Bills, like, like, what

672
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Speaker 4: what's his best position? Any idea, like what does he play?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's played both tackle spots, I mean, and I

674
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Speaker 1: think that's something that you're going to want. Because we

675
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Speaker 1: saw what happened with Christian dearris l last year. I

676
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Speaker 1: think their expectation is that is in the review mirror.

677
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Speaker 1: But Brian O'Neill has played through things. Brian O'Neil has

678
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Speaker 1: missed time a little bit here and there, not a ton,

679
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Speaker 1: But you know, you're sitting there thinking about what will

680
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Speaker 1: it look like if we need somebody else to play

681
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Speaker 1: one of these tackle positions during the course of the season.

682
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Speaker 1: And those are not guys you want to be caught

683
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Speaker 1: in a bind trying to replace. I mean, they're both

684
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Speaker 1: highly compensated for a reason because they're foundational pieces of

685
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Speaker 1: that line. So yes, he is somebody that comes in

686
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Speaker 1: as a tackle and again has played both of these,

687
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Speaker 1: has been more on the left and the right. I

688
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: think some of that's been need but got it. I

689
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is just having the insurance

690
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Speaker 1: policy at either of those spots if you need him.

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Speaker 4: Maybe answered this earlier with the right to change the opinion,

692
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Speaker 4: because we still are. We're a month in change from

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Speaker 4: the NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: Yep. What do you think the head coach wants at

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Speaker 2: eighteen or in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think there's a lot of ways

697
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Speaker 1: you could do it, and there's a lot of approaches

698
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: you could take. I think adding help on the defensive

699
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Speaker 1: side of the ball is It's been a popular thought,

700
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Speaker 1: and I think Brian Flores will have things that he

701
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Speaker 1: wants to do too. If you get a defensive tackle

702
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Speaker 1: to replace Alan or Hargrave, that maybe is a little

703
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: more effective, a little more dynamic. I think that could

704
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Speaker 1: be a need, you know, whether that's guy like Caleb

705
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Speaker 1: Banks or Kid McDonald. I think those are possibilities. I mean,

706
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Speaker 1: corner is an interesting one too, because they could use

707
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Speaker 1: a young, lengthy corner. I think that's a big spot

708
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Speaker 1: that they've tried to fill in I mean Jaiah Rodgers

709
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Speaker 1: has helped, but.

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Speaker 2: Shoot, they tried that all the way back to a

711
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Speaker 2: Caleb Evans. Yeah. Yeah, I mean Caleb didn't work, but

712
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Speaker 2: it was long and range. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They've missed on a lot of corners in the draft.

714
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Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's Mike Hues, whether it's Andrew Booth,

715
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Speaker 1: the Caleb Evans, I mean, Makai Blackman's injuries. But they've

716
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Speaker 1: had a lot of these where they've tried it and

717
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Speaker 1: they have not solved that need. So some of those

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Speaker 1: corners Aviante Terrell in the first round would be one

719
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Speaker 1: that I would keep an eye on. Ajterrell's brother Londson.

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Speaker 1: So I think a corner, even a safety is a

721
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Speaker 1: possibility to to If you think Harrison Smith is not

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Speaker 1: going to be back last.

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Speaker 4: One minute, you get it. All was all the Jonathan

724
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Speaker 4: Grenard trade speculation. Hevill which is Hebrew for smoke or vapor.

725
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Speaker 4: We're reporters chasing after the wind on that one. Not necessarily.

726
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Speaker 4: I think there is certainly interest from Gernard and a

727
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Speaker 4: new deal. I think the Vikings are pretty comfortable paying

728
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Speaker 4: them what they're paying him, So I think that conversation is, hey,

729
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: we want a new deal. Okay, Well, we don't really

730
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Speaker 4: feel like we want to move off of where we're at,

731
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Speaker 4: but if you can find somebody that will give you that,

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Speaker 4: then you're welcome to go down that road. And that's

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Speaker 4: I think where that stuff starts coming from is agent

734
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Speaker 4: drives it. Speculation kind of comes from there.

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Speaker 1: If the offer came through and the Vikings were able

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Speaker 1: to get, say, a second round pick for him, yeah

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Speaker 1: I could see it happening. But a lot of that

738
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Speaker 1: I think is coming from Gernard wanting a new deal

739
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Speaker 1: and the Vikings saying if we're not in the place

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Speaker 1: to do it, you know, maybe there's somebody else that

741
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: you could get what you want and we get high

742
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: compensation for it, and everybody walks away feeling okay about

743
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Speaker 1: the deal.

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Speaker 4: We will try to call you in Palm Beach next week,

745
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 4: but if you're busy, completely understandable. Otherwise, God bless you

746
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: and your family. Always great seeing you and thanks for stopping.

747
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Speaker 4: Great to see you too. We'll walk next week. Ben Gasline,

748
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Speaker 4: Star Tribune, Star Tribune dot Com back after this, all right.

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Speaker 4: This portion of the radio show generally is mused ord

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Speaker 4: with young Maxwell here, it's about time to get easy

753
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Speaker 4: with it. We call it Max's musing. It's his version

754
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: of a sports update. And there they are.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Sir, the Wild drop the Punk on a three

756
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: game road trip tonight when they take on the Lightning

757
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. Carell Capriesov, juwel Ericson Eck and Marcus

758
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: Felino all practice yesterday and all traveled with the team.

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00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: It's up in the air when they play. All three

760
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Speaker 1: are expected to return at some point during this upcoming

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Speaker 1: road trip. Felino hasn't played since late February, while Capriesov

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Speaker 1: and k have missed the last few two for Capriceof

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Speaker 1: and three for K to be specific. The aforementioned road

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Speaker 1: trip includes tonight's game against Tampa, a duel with the

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Speaker 1: defending champion Panthers, and a battle with the Boston Bruins

766
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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, that's nothing but good news at this

767
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Speaker 1: stage of the season with like eleven to go. The

768
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: Dallas Stars were beaten here over the weekend and overtime,

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Speaker 1: but they still stole a point, so they're five clear

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Speaker 1: of US, and then they had a chance to do

771
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: some significant damage to the Minnesota Wild and their puncher's

772
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Speaker 1: chance quest to have home ice advantage against Dallas in

773
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Speaker 1: round one by going to Vegas and beating the times

774
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Speaker 1: beatable Golden Knights in regulation, but they lost in regulation.

775
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Speaker 1: So Dallas has been down of late players like Rupe

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Speaker 1: Hintz and Miko rantin him a couple of game changers,

777
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Speaker 1: So they're trying to get themselves right. Like Heinz, Heinsey

778
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: is gonna get some some significant firepower and some significant

779
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: intensity and strength with Folino back here relatively soon, maybe

780
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Speaker 1: even tonight, and John Hines joins nine to noon tomorrow

781
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: at nine forty five. The Twins a Spring of training

782
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: finale is going down in Florida this afternoon, about five

783
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: minutes after this show ends, when they take on the

784
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Speaker 1: Red Sox. The next time we see the Twins in action,

785
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Speaker 1: we'll be on Thursday afternoon against the Orioles in their

786
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Speaker 1: regular season opener. Joe Ryan will be the opening day

787
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Speaker 1: starter for you, our Minnesota Twins. A lot of sports

788
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Speaker 1: books are predicting the Twins will win about seventy.

789
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Speaker 2: Two games this season.

790
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Speaker 4: Here comes MLB, which means I don't know how long

791
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Speaker 4: it'll take for hardcore seamts to start complaining about no

792
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Speaker 4: salarycap and the LA Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Can you know what, We're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna go out and get Mookie, and we're gonna go

795
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Speaker 4: out and get show Hey, and yeah, you know what,

796
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Speaker 4: Kyle Tucker is a really good I think we'll bring

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Speaker 4: Kyle Tucker in and the halves and the have nots

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Speaker 4: in the world of the salary kapaliss Major League Baseball scene.

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Speaker 2: For me, given the opening day is Thursday, then I'm.

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Speaker 4: Probably gonna get with my Comcast Covenant start looking for

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Speaker 4: the Twins channel right now.

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Speaker 2: I always love that.

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Speaker 4: Well started zero zero zero one and add up to

804
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Speaker 4: the three thousands I didn't know I had, and we're

805
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Speaker 4: gonna win Twins.

806
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna score. They're in there somewhere.

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Speaker 1: We are officially thirty days out from day one of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, PA that's going down in Pittsburgh Pencil

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Speaker 1: Alvani on April twenty third is when things get started.

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Speaker 1: Your Minnesota Vikings and mine pick eighteenth overall in round one.

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Speaker 1: In a recent mock draft from earlier today from Esteemed

812
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Speaker 1: ESPN reporter field to Yates as the Vikings select in

813
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Speaker 1: safety Dylan Tianeman.

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Speaker 2: Out of Oregon. It's Tinam and Dana and Tinaman. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I got touted on him when I was at the Combine,

816
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Speaker 4: and I think you were in Turkey trying to get

817
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Speaker 4: back by way of Cutter. So therefore, you know, trying

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Speaker 4: to hit the listen line or the iHeart app. It

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Speaker 4: might not have worked there at that time. But I'll

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Speaker 4: tell this quickly because I've heard it before. When God

821
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Speaker 4: decides to provide steam on things, it can come from anywhere.

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Speaker 4: It's unpredictable. So I'm flying to the Combine to do

823
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: a couple of radio shows. I got this. You know,

824
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Speaker 4: guy's kind of a beefeeder. It's a bigger guy sitting

825
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 4: next to me wearing Oregon garb. Well, so we get

826
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Speaker 4: to know each other a little bit, and and his

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Speaker 4: name is Atticus Sappington. Wow, he was a kicker for Oregon.

828
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Speaker 4: He's going to be probably a drafted kicker. So I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I told him, you know what I do

830
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Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and we talked the whole flight

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Speaker 4: and then he's like, you know, Atlanta, this with your

832
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Speaker 4: guy young Wayku, But I think they signed a kicker.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean Atticus can't go there. Could be with Green Bay,

834
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Speaker 4: could be with a Chicago. You know, those are the

835
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Speaker 4: teams that were kind of feeling them out a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Atticus Happington though, cool name, a great name.

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Speaker 2: So but then you know that the the.

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Speaker 4: Hyperactive cartoon character announcer immediately is like, Hey, don't take

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Speaker 4: this personally or anything, but like, I don't watch a

840
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Speaker 4: lot of college football. I got a lot of things

841
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: going on that time of the year, Like who are

842
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: some ballers on your squad? He went right to that

843
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 4: guy the safety. Wow, how great he is off the field,

844
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Speaker 4: things that go into his practice habits. So I mean,

845
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Speaker 4: of course I get to the combine, I'm like, don't

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Speaker 4: tell anybody, but I.

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Speaker 2: Got an opinion. I came in here with an opinion.

848
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Speaker 2: I just got to figure out how to pronounce his name.

849
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Speaker 2: So I've been calling him tum and Theeneman.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I was talented on him as a fit

851
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: for this team before the combine. But we have a

852
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: metaphorical fly in the proverbia a oointment. And here's what

853
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Speaker 4: I mean. I mean we we had a retirement ceremony

854
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Speaker 4: last week, right with thelan and CJ.

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Speaker 2: Ham Right where was hit Man? Hit Man was nowhere

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Speaker 2: to be found.

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Speaker 4: He was in California playing in the flag football bit,

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Speaker 4: replacing Derwin James. He wasn't supposed to play in it,

859
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Speaker 4: but then Derwin James like he got messed up or something,

860
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Speaker 4: so Hitman had to play there. So Ben Gesling was

861
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: so thoughtful and vain opening about so many Kyler Murray

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Speaker 4: offensive related things. Today they're like eight questions I have

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Speaker 4: for him I didn't get to and and one of

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Speaker 4: them was was going to involve like that, and like

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Speaker 4: Harrison Smith, and I mean, I'm starting I'm guessing here,

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Speaker 4: so we're riding discernment. But I'm starting to feel like

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Speaker 4: Hitman is going to play next year, Like, well, we

868
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Speaker 4: don't have an official retirement. You are not out until

869
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Speaker 4: you're officially out, and he ain't out. So and then

870
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: he played in that flag football game. So I don't know, Man,

871
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't bet on it. But the closer we get

872
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: to the season, then we get to the draft, and

873
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Speaker 4: if they don't like identify a safety high not that

874
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: they have to have one. After talking to Gestling, man

875
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Speaker 4: about all the speed on offense, and you and I

876
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Speaker 4: chopping it up a little bit about Kyler Murray and

877
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if Kyler is good at

878
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Speaker 4: immediately identifying manner zone. That is such a major key

879
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Speaker 4: to Minnesota Vikings offensive football this year because if he's

880
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: good at it, and O'Connell, we already know, is good

881
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: at putting people, they'll right people in good places to

882
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 4: move the ball. I mean, if Kyler can tell when

883
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 4: they're trying to play man or some form of defense

884
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Speaker 4: where he can run, he can scoot for fifteen to

885
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Speaker 4: twenty and then we move on for another first down.

886
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Speaker 4: If they're able to crap that and concoct that with

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Speaker 4: Jefferson speed, with Addison speed, with Hockinson who's one of

888
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Speaker 4: the speedier tight ends, and you find a fast running back,

889
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Speaker 4: the young, fast, bruising running back that you like with

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Speaker 4: showtime and or Mason Man and Darris Astay's healthy, I

891
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Speaker 4: mean that offense could be in business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and possibly d hop though, who still got some

893
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: juice left in the tank as well. He had some

894
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: highlight catches last year for Baltimore.

895
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Speaker 2: He was awesome.

896
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Speaker 1: While we're on the subject of the NFL, some other

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Speaker 1: little headlines from the NFL over the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: as Steelers head coach Mike McCarthy says he said on

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Speaker 1: a recent interview that Aaron Rodgers reunion would be a

900
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Speaker 1: great story.

901
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Speaker 2: Rogers remains a.

902
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Speaker 1: Free agent for now, but the Steelers don't seem super

903
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Speaker 1: urgent to sign a quarterback. He's not going to be

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Speaker 1: super urgent to sign with them, but the Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: higher appears to point towards a possible Rogers reunion. And

906
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelce signed a three year deal with the Chiefs

907
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: of three year extension yesterday with a maximum value of

908
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Speaker 1: fifty seven million dollars.

909
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Speaker 2: And change golden golf for hockey fans.

910
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Speaker 4: The University of Minnesota has named Brett Larson as new

911
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Speaker 4: men's hockey coach, replacing Bob Moscow. Larson comes from Saint

912
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: Cloud State University, so Moscow and the team mutually agreed

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Speaker 4: to part ways and Brett Larson is the new coach

914
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Speaker 4: of the Golden Gophers hockey team and guardsy squad guards

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Speaker 4: of the Box. He'll be heading to Sacramento. I think

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Speaker 4: it is six thirty Central on Friday. The Golden Gophers

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Speaker 4: the women's team is in the Sweet sixteen for the

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Speaker 4: first time in a couple of decades, and I mean

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Speaker 4: they hook a monster. I mean I'll watch four minutes

920
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Speaker 4: of that thing. Last night, Ucla, Holy cow. Is that

921
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Speaker 4: a good basketball team? They get the one seed of

922
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Speaker 4: all one seeds ever to one seed they get UCLA

923
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Speaker 4: in Sacramento.

924
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Speaker 2: U CLA dusted Oklahoma State last night.

925
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Speaker 4: So the Sweet sixteen Friday with Guardsy on lead vocals

926
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Speaker 4: on radio slash Audio, that's going to be against UCLA

927
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Speaker 4: and that'll take place in Sacramento. Max Fuller led Max's

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Speaker 4: Musin's courtesy of Canterbury Park and Canterbury Park dot Com.

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Speaker 4: It's eleven o'clock in the neighborhood, the neighborhood being the

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