WEBVTT - 10-22-25 Midweek Crisis with Dan Carroll 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:18.080 All right back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.680 nine oh seven damn herold till midnight tonight. We call 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:26.320 this the Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. Glad 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.160 to be here, Glad you are here as well. Phone 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:32.320 lines are open five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.920 eight hundred Big One. Joe Waddell running the Big board 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:40.080 in the seven hundred WLW Command Center, and so I'm 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.680 glad he's here, and always glad to have Joe hanging 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.960 around making sure your thing stays on track. You know 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.040 what we have right now going on in the City 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:55.760 of Cincinnati is is when we are seeing what happens 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:02.040 when when elitists are in charge. And I'm talking about 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:08.560 the mayor and I'm talking about the city manager, Cheryl Long. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:15.520 I turned on local news a few hours before I 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:20.720 came into the station today, turned on Fox nineteen. Saw 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:25.360 Tricia Mackie and Rob Williams, and they were talking about 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:29.440 what happened in city Hall today. And Cheryl Long had 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:35.840 a news conference today. She was getting some kind of award. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.679 Let's see if this says what she got an award. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:44.240 Hold on one second, let's see. Let's see I don't know. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.440 She was getting some kind of award for something. And 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.520 as she was walking through the halls of the City Hall, 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.560 there were several local reporters there from several different TV 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:01.520 stations trying to ask her some questions. She has just 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:07.680 told us a day or so ago that the police chief, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.480 at least she wanted the police chief, Teresa Thiji, to 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:17.600 be relieved of her duties, wanted her to resign. This 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:23.240 led to a lot of questions. But she feels as 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.240 the city manager, who is the under our system of 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.440 government here, We've got the city council, We've got the mayor, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.959 but it is the city manager who is the day 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:39.519 to day executive that makes a lot of decisions, decides 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.680 what is going to happen in the city of Cincinnati, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:49.000 presents ordinances to city council for their approval. A lot 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.240 of times works at the direction of the mayor or 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.600 the city council, But it's a city manager who's responsible 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.560 for a lot of what goes on in the City 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:06.320 of Cincinnati from a business perspective, from a personnel perspective. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.320 So that is why it is a city manager's job 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:14.280 to the police chief reports to the city manager. The 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.680 city used to have a safety director position and the 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.960 police chief reported to the safety director, and the safety 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.640 director was I thought it was a better way to 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.639 go than the city manager because the safety director was 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:34.160 able to focus more and specifically on what was going 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.240 on with the police department. We don't have a police commissioner, 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.200 but we have a police chief, and then we have 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:48.279 the city manager. But this city manager is an absolute 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:53.160 elitist and doesn't feel the need to respond to the 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.880 questions of the media, or the questions of other city 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.680 council members, or the questions of the people of the city. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:05.160 Is just doesn't feel the need to do it. And 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:09.800 that was a shameful and bush league and low budget 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:15.400 display that I saw on behalf of CHAA long at 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:21.680 City Hall earlier today, just plowing right by the supporters. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.320 Are not the supporters, but the reporters on our way 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.760 to another event. Had something much more important to do. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:34.760 Excuse me, excuse me, I have to get in front 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.839 of the cameras in the other room here because I 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.520 have an event to go. I don't have time to 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:46.720 answer your questions. Nothing wrong, you know, nothing going on here. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.920 And I said it yesterday when I was in for Cunningham. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.760 What we are seeing at City Hall right now is 0:04:54.839 --> 0:05:00.520 the inevitable result of failed leadership. Leadership that adheres to 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:05.880 the policies of serving the masters of political correctness, of 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:13.280 wokeism and DEI diversity, equity and inclusion. So it matters 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:19.160 not if you go along or believe in these ideas, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.520 or you oppose these ideas, as long as you have 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:27.160 those at the top who insist on incorporating these notions 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:33.039 into their policy decisions. Those who must live under those 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:37.040 policies and carry these policies out based on this nonsense, 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.559 they're going to be the ones who wind up paying 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:45.200 the price for the failure, because these policies always fail. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:52.960 And our brave Mayor, he answered a couple of questions today, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.880 he bravely stood in front of the microphones and said, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.680 this is being done through the city Manager's office. I 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.680 would refer you to her. Well, they tried to talk 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:11.200 to her and she had nothing to say. She didn't 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:18.760 have time. How dare these reporters from five, nine, twelve 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:24.280 and nineteen, and I would imagine the Inquirer was there. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:29.720 How dare they go to city Hall, seek out the 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.760 city manager and try to get some answers as to 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:38.560 what the hell is going on now? Be Cheryl Long, No, no, no, 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:46.360 she just blew right by him. So the ones who 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.720 paid the price for the And look, when it comes 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.280 to having elitis like I have to have purvol and 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:58.000 this city manager, they can never own up to their own. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.679 At some point they'll have to answer for their faures. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.960 But for as long as they're able to play the game, 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.680 they will put it off on others as long as 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.360 they're able to do that. So in the cases that 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.920 we have in front of us right now, what do 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:18.080 we have. We have the fire chief, Mike Washington. And 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.040 one of the first things that Cheryl Long did when 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.920 she became a city manager was fire Mike Washington. Why 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:29.120 because Mike Washington was an individual who the way he 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.520 wanted to run the fire department. He didn't want to 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:38.240 go along with all the wokeism and the political correctness 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.640 and the DEI stuff. Didn't want to play along with that. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.119 Guy's been around for a long long time. He knows 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:52.040 what works, he knows what doesn't work. He advised other 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:56.320 fire departments all across the country on the best practices 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.720 and the best ways to set up and run a 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.440 fire department. The guy knows what he's doing, but not 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:08.640 good enough for this city manager, so she fired him. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.520 And now it's going to wind up costing the city. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.240 And one of the first things Mike Washington did was 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.440 go to the Finny law firm, and he's got Steven 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:22.080 m representing him, and they've won every every stop along 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.520 the process of their lawsuit against the City of Cincinnati. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.760 And it's going to wind up costing the city somewhere. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.880 Who knows. It could be an excess to ten million dollars, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.360 but it's going to be a seven figure settlement. Now 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:44.400 you have the police chief, who, according to her attorney, 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:50.000 the same attorney, Stephen M said she was only carrying 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.840 out the wishes of those who were over her, the 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.600 city manager and the mayor, trying to walk that fine 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:03.920 line and run the police department as effectively as she could. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.400 And look, she didn't do herself any favors. After we 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:14.000 had the beatdown on, you know, on that hot July 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:18.440 night on the streets of Cincinnati, the video that made 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:23.040 national television with the people getting their heads kicked in 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.040 and the woman getting knocked out on the street, and 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:31.440 then she comes on a day or two later, and 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.559 chastises the media because they continually continually ran the video 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:41.319 that made national news, made Cincinnati look like a laughing stock, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.560 put a black eye on the city of Cincinnati all 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.880 across the country for that. That video ran for days 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:53.040 and weeks. Every time I sat in this chair, I 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.160 look to the monitor my left, there's a video planning 0:09:55.200 --> 0:10:00.080 again playing again. So Mike Washington, the fire chief, he 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.760 didn't want to go along with those policies. See you later. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:10.880 They smeared him, try to bring up some phony charges 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.800 against him that he wasn't doing. I even forget what 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.520 the charges were, but they're complete crap. And so all that, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.200 all that's been blown away. So he's in line for 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.720 a big settlement. Now you've got the police chief who 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.120 tried to do who tried to run the police department 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:34.960 and go along with their ideas and their policies. And 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:39.280 so when the failure comes, the people who put those 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:43.720 policies in place, they can't accept the responsibility. They've got 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.280 to pass it off there. Oh, but the mayor bravely 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:50.080 did say that the decision happening at this time has 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:56.160 nothing to do absolutely nothing to do with the election. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.480 That is only a couple of weeks away. Nothing to 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:09.120 as Cincinnatians, we can rest assured tonight that politics played 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:16.480 no part in this decision to put the police chief 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:22.280 on administrative leave and announce there's an investigation into her. No, no, no, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.080 no politics. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:23.320 No. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.600 I mean, and look, things just happen when they happen. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:33.280 Everybody knows that. But my point is, you got Mike Washington, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.439 the fire chief, who didn't want to go along with it, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.800 and now you've got the police chief who tried to 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.520 go along with it, and they wind up in the 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:48.160 same place because the people who put the elitists, who 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.480 put these policies in place, and say, you have to 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:55.440 serve these masters. You have to serve the wokeness, you 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.000 have to serve the dei, you have to serve the 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.560 political correctness. That's the way we do business here in 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.640 the city, saying go to the and look, don't believe me, 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.240 go to the City of Cincinnati website. Look at their 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.400 mission statement, look at the way they want to deal 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.000 with policing. So much mumbo jumbo, you can't believe it. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.800 And all through it it's peppered with this notion of diversity, 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:25.000 inequity and inclusion blah blah blah blah blah, and how 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.640 we look and how's that working out for us? What 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.400 an absolute mess we have on our hands at city Hall. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.880 Chuck is in Cleaves, Chuck seven hundred WLW. I just 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.000 got myself all worked up for no reason. I think, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:45.360 how are you checking that? Agreed? I gotta take a 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.960 breath ahead, I don't take take a little drink of 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:48.400 water here. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.920 I'll give you a little bit of insight here. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.640 You were talking about Jim and browling Jim, right, yeah, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:04.720 remember since he got arrested, they were all the SuDS. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.720 Beat up the other people, right yep. Now, well. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.560 They insisted on arresting a white guy. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:16.280 Gotta arrest a white. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.840 Guy because because I think he didn't sign that appidatus 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.000 is why I think all of this is going on. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.200 And I'd be willing to bet Rose has got something 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:28.679 to do with it. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.360 But think back to who. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.520 Did shine it? Henny? 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.720 Well, yeah, the guy who's the chief now. And look, 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.280 I'm not going I'm uh, look, I don't know a 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:46.840 lot about Henny. You know, I had on ken Kober 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:52.079 of the uh, the the FOP yesterday. Uh he tells 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.680 me Henny is a good guy. Uh, you know, he's 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.280 going to be a solid leader for the Cincinnati Police Department. 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.440 So I'm good on that. So I don't want to 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.240 And I know he signed. He's the guy that signed 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.800 off on it, and I choose to look at that 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.120 as him taking one for the team there because he 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.920 didn't want some street officers signing that. And he you know, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.840 he probably knew there was going to be some political 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.200 fallout from it down the road. So he's the guy 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:26.160 who's take ups. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:31.720 Do not sign that, do not sign yet, d Yeah, 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:32.160 I'm signing. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.240 Well, I mean that's there's yeah. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.080 Well you know, but but we had that, We had 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.760 the shooting on Fountain Square. We had running gun battles 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.680 in downtown Cincinnati, people getting killed, you know, down on 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.440 you know, getting shot down at Smell Park. Uh, dude 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.600 getting killed a couple of blocks away from Paul the 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.760 pay Horse Stadium. So I mean, it all build up 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.600 to a critical mass to where they had act like 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.240 they're doing something. But they but here here's the thing. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.760 They can't look look at what Look at this curfew 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.840 they put out. Now, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna take steps, 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.440 We're gonna put out a curfew. But the curfew has 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.200 got more holes in it than Swiss cheese. If you 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.600 got a kid who's walking, he said, you know who's 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.400 under eighteen, you're supposed to be You're not supposed to 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.200 be out here. Dude. He said, well, I'm exercising my 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.920 first Amendment, right. Ah, well, then we then we can't 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.680 touch it. I'm in the accompaniment of someone of an adult, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.160 someone who's over the age of eighteen. Doesn't say it 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.200 has to be a parent or a guardian, just someone 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.200 who's over the age of eighteen. Well, I'm on my 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.160 way to church, or I'm on my way to work 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.320 at eleven o'clock at night. So I mean, I mean, 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:50.160 the curfew is a joke. The mayor was told by 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:54.560 the governor, Hey, we've got resources. We can help you 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.680 get a handle on what's going on crime wise in 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.840 downtown Cincinnati. No, no, no, thanks, Goving another thanks, we 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.400 got under control. And then he finally acquiesces to what 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.760 two days a month, and then he builds it up 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.360 to four days a month. They're going to have the 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.280 resources of the Ohio State Control assisting Cincinnati police. What 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:19.160 an absolute joke. So they don't want to take responsibility 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.160 for their own decisions and their own policies. They've got 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.920 to put it off on someone else. So my point is, 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.840 you know Mike Washington, the fire chief, he wasn't going 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.960 to go along with it. See you later the chief 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.360 Fiji who tried to go along with it, who tried 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.400 to make it work for the police department, she winds 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:46.600 up in the exact same place. So then, and I 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.040 was really disgusted today when I saw the video Sharyl 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.240 Long blowing by the reporters at city Hall, and Fox 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.720 nineteen ran the video a couple of times. And she's 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.520 got no time, no time to answer your questions. I 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.560 got to go to my event. She's an absolute disgrace. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:12.879 The whole city clountains are just absolute disgrace. But Corey 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.560 Bowman's gotta win, Chuck, we got to run. Chuck. You 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:21.440 live in Cleeves, so you vote, yes, I do, and 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.199 I I look, I'm not telling you how to vote, 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.359 but can you tell me. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:32.080 For a reason? 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.880 Can can you? Can you see any reason why any 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.920 of these members of the city Council should be voted back 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:40.600 in office? 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.440 Absolutely now of you, Chuck. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:47.040 Thanks for the call tonight. I appreciate. Oh man, breathe 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.440 all right, I'm breathing. I'm breathing, brother, thank you. Man, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.080 Chuck is right, gotta breathe. We will do that. Now 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.080 we'll take a little break and then my buddy Jim 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.720 Fan from the Conservative Caucus is coming up. But you 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.840 you cannot have This is what happens when you have 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:09.840 elitists in office and they want to serve the masters 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:15.639 of WOKESM, political correctness and DEI. This is the result. 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.160 You get the absolute mess that we have going down 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.719 on in Plump Street right now. It's a Midweek Crisis 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:33.600 Wednesday Night Edition, seven hundred WLW back on the Big Ones, 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:38.760 seven hundred w LW. It is the Wednesday Night edition 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.480 of the Midweek Crisis as we roll on till midnight tonight. 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.080 I'm Dan Carroll, glad to be here, Glad you are 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.560 here as well. Also glad that my buddy from the 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.520 maid man at the Conservative Caucus is here, Jim Faff 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.760 and Jim. Great to have you on. Great to hear 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:54.840 from you. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.600 What's that that's good to hear from you? 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.439 Good to hear from you, and good good of you 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.120 to always answer the call whenever I there's so much 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.080 that goes on in Washington these days, and so I 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.920 just love your perspective on things. For those who may 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.400 not know. I've had you on as a guest, now 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.080 what a dozen times or more. It's been quite a 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:18.639 few times, oh, this. 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.040 Past every bit of a year or so. Yeah, that 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.440 we've been doing this, but it's. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.560 Been great for those who may not know. Tell people 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.639 a little bit of your background about the time you 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.639 spent in Washington and how you became to be the 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.879 main man there at the Conservative Cause. 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.560 Yeah, well it goes all the way back to the 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:38.560 nineteen nineties. 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.679 Interestingly, I had Mike Tens introduced me to my first 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.199 position in politics back in ninety two when he was 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:50.200 running Indiana Policy Review. I'm a native in Indianapolis, big 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.440 fan of WLW is people who have heard me say, 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:57.000 and I lived and breathed by everything on WLW. 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.280 I listened to it more than Indianapolis stations. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.520 But fast forward, I ended up at Folks on the 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.119 Family working for doctor Dobson for many years. I was 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.440 on the radio in Denver for four years at the 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.680 Daily Radio Show, and then I ended up on Capitol 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:16.160 Hill working for a former Congressman, Tim Jules Camp from Kansas. 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.080 I also was as his chief of staff. I was 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:23.000 also chief of staff for Thomas Masthey. For everyone across 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.800 the river there, they know Thomas really well. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.000 Excuse me, and you know. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.919 Just all the stuff I've done many things. I just 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.200 ended up here as president of the Conservative Caucus. 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.360 Came on board last February. And it's an. 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.240 Organization founded in nineteen seventy four by one of the 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.399 icons of the conservative movement, to Howard Phillips, and I'm 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.080 really proud to succeed him in this amazing organization. 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.240 Well, and I appreciate it all the time that you 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.920 give us here. I've had people ask me over the 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.199 last two or three days and they're starting to do 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.439 you know the over unders now. They say, give me 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.280 a date. Guy came up, he said, give me a 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.560 date when the when the government shutdown is going to 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.520 come to an end? And I said, you know, I said, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.600 I think I'm seeing a few cracks in there. I 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:13.880 think there's going to be some time when, maybe when 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.800 when the EBT card stop working. I've seen all these 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.160 videos of people. I can't believe all the people who 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.680 go out online and talk about how they're going to 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.159 walk into the Walmart and just walk out with all 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.880 the food they want and not pay for it. I'm 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.720 thinking get a job. But you know, when that when 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:35.160 that sort of pressure starts cranking up, I'm sure someone's 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.840 gonna cave. What do you think how you see this 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:38.520 thing playing out? 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.800 Well, I really think we should go forty. 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.000 To sixty days with this thing. 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.520 One of the things that's happening here is that the 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:53.439 Democrats really have no place to go in backing down 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.720 on what they've been pushing for. And they really, I mean, honestly, 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:03.159 they're They're losing the every argument that they're making for why. 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:04.000 We need to continue. 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.440 This is not going to be a long term winner 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.240 with the American people because of things like what you 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.919 just shared. You know, people are seeing these videos and 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.760 they are kind of propagating out there in social media, 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.199 people saying that they want to steal food if they 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:22.040 can't use their EBT card. But why would they even 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.560 say that, Like, you would not have heard anything like 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:28.840 that under a similar circumstance twenty thirty years ago, because 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.320 no one would think to even say such a thing. 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.960 Well why would they? It's because Democrats have. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.560 Made it almost a. 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:44.040 Moral imperative that people steal money from grocery stores and 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.000 from the CBS's and the Walgreens and all this kind 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.280 of stuff because they do nothing about it. Because Democrats 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.160 are all about crime. They are the criminal party. They're 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.960 the pro criminal party in every way, whether it's illegal 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.840 criminal aliens, or whether it's people here in the United 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:06.080 States that because of these weird police policies, they just 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:10.720 allow folks to go half crazy just running in the 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:12.720 stores and grabbing everything they can. 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:14.359 With no consequence. 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:19.320 And they've married and wedded themselves to this way of thinking, 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.119 and it's hard to back out of it because what 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.240 they have to do is admit that they were wrong. 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.480 And that's the big deal here. 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:30.639 So right now you're seeing Democrat polls that really are 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:35.920 push poles trying to make it some sort of orthodoxy. 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.600 The American people are not standing behind Donald Trump. 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.919 Now it's an iffy prop of course when you have 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.080 a government shut down, But the reality is these push 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.480 poles are just saying nothing. The American people are not 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.720 gravely concerned about all this. There are some concerns. It's uncomfortable, 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.320 but it's nothing like what Democrats are trying to make 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.560 it out to be, but they have wetted themselves to 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:04.680 this way of thinking. They are convinced that illegal criminal 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:10.919 aliens and illegal aliens should receive Medicaid benefits and then Obamacare. 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.760 You know, they're standing up for the continuing the Obamacare, 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:19.399 the continuation of the Obamacare subsidies that they passed and 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:24.919 pushed for, because Obamacare is failing, and it's just putting 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.120 a light as well on that they're wedded to Obamacare, 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:32.639 a failing program that's harming the health and the insurance 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:37.560 capabilities of American citizens. But it's their program. They have 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:41.160 to stand up for it. So they're in a real 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.680 problem right now. It is possible that they try to 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.840 get out of this soon. They had to get past 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.560 the no Things protests over the weekend. 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.480 Which you know, at a short bump, but are really not. 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.360 There's no staying power with what happened. Yeah, I think 0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.560 that's why I think it's going to be a while. Yeah. 0:24:56.560 --> 0:25:01.240 I think the failure and the exposure of the failure 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:05.720 of Obamacare is really an interesting subtext here. And you know, 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.560 I read a piece earlier today, why is it that 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.760 Barack Obama is always working behind the scenes Daniel Greenfield, 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.480 who's a great writer over at front Page Magazine, wrote 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.879 that piece, and he laid out all these different examples 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.560 of how you always hear about Obama working behind the scenes, 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.399 working behind the scenes, and then every once in a 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.600 while he's got to come out with, you know, with 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.200 the way he likes to explain things. But he's I mean, 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.800 if you want to be involved, be involved and stop 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.960 doing all this stuff behind the scenes, and look at 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.320 Obamacare is your signature has got your name on it, 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.320 for God's sake. And now he's you know, where is 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:50.159 Obama coming out and trying to speak on behalf of 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:54.120 Obamacare because everyone knows that it was we were sold 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.960