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Speaker 2: You can only get so much golf and barbecue.

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Speaker 2: Krack and are a playoff team. They're a postseason contender.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I listen, Mike, everything that you said

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Speaker 6: You know, my third year with the team, I have

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Speaker 5: And I know the name.

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Speaker 6: Robert Thomas has been thrown around a lot. We've talked

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Speaker 2: Beat this drump for about a month. You know me.

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Speaker 6: You know he's a twenty six year old, proven elite center.

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Speaker 6: You know, you're not gonna send over a fruit basket

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Speaker 4: You have to ask.

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Speaker 6: Do you want to draft and pray or do you

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Speaker 6: that's the kind of swing of the changes a franchise,

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Speaker 6: And I think that's the way. That's the mindset set

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to last night and a two to

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Speaker 2: But this was a much, much, much bigger hill to climb.

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Speaker 5: You know my thoughts on advanced stats.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what your shot percentage per Wayanney Crescent

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Speaker 5: I don't care. Last night for me was I'll call

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Speaker 1: I don't need advanced stats to know that that was

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Speaker 5: I don't care. Last night was a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Last night was Game two, Right, that felt like the

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot more defensive hockey. There's gonna

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Speaker 5: They've got the superstars, they've got all that.

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Speaker 1: But for those teams that you would put in that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I you know, you say fits that you knew

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Speaker 5: Until Toby took the penalty. I was like, they got this.

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Speaker 2: That was me nuckles by the way in Tom's watch bar.

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Speaker 6: All right, Okay, That's what I'm talking about, is the

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Speaker 6: That last three minutes, to me, it was a test,

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Speaker 4: And then the Cracking passed that test.

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Speaker 1: That game reminded me of the Winnipeg game the Crack

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Speaker 2: Twitter and next to you think ninety points are enough

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Speaker 2: Colorado is in that Carolina category. If you're facing a

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Speaker 2: juggernaut and can you take down that juggernaut for two points?

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Speaker 2: But then the Canucks the Panthers, you get Florida again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you find a way to take care of

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Speaker 2: business here all of a sudden, ninety points with where

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Speaker 2: they're at right now and the standings playing just about

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Speaker 2: a shade over five hundred hockey, that's very, very attainable.

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Speaker 2: The cracket are already at sixty seven points here, they

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Speaker 2: need twenty three more in just twenty two games coming up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think ninety points is definitely attainable.

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Speaker 1: And coaches will break down the season in chunks, right,

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Speaker 1: you know Dave Hackstall, Dan Biosma, and they were more

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Speaker 1: of the five to seven game chunks.

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Speaker 5: I know, Dave Hackstall like to.

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Speaker 1: Break things down into kind of mini playoff series, right,

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Speaker 1: Every seven games is a playoff series, and you work

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Speaker 1: your way there. Cracking a struggled coming out of the break.

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Speaker 1: They're two and two in their last four, but if

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Speaker 1: you go over on their last ten games, Cracking are

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Speaker 1: seven and three. If you go seven and three over these.

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Speaker 1: You know, for every ten game segment, you go seven

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Speaker 1: and three over your last twenty one games, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean you're a playoff team, you know what I mean

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Speaker 1: that you're definitely in the playoffs. Or seven and three

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Speaker 1: seven three or seven three and one, seven to three,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. If you find ways to get thirteen

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Speaker 1: to fourteen points out of every ten or out every

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Speaker 1: twenty coming up in the next twenty games, for you,

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Speaker 1: you're going to hit ninety points. I said before, the

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Speaker 1: schedule looks maybe a lot easier than it is. You know,

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Speaker 1: the playoff teams, you talked about Colorado twice, Tampa twice,

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Speaker 1: Vegas twice, and then Buffalo, Edmonton, Utah, Minnesota. But then

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Speaker 1: the Kings, I mean, the Kings made a big move.

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Speaker 1: They just fired Jim Hiller and they replaced him with

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Speaker 1: DJ Smith. Which listen, if you're a Kraken fan, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you wanted Jim Hiller to stick around for maybe another week,

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Speaker 1: just to help you out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: At the first game. Though they went out and lost

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 5: They did not all they did.

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Speaker 1: But anytime you bring in a brand new coach, you're

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Speaker 1: going to get that immediate shot in the arm. And

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Speaker 1: obviously our Temi Paneren does a lot for them as well.

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Speaker 1: But they're four back of you, five back of you,

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Speaker 1: four back of the wildcard. You got a game in

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Speaker 1: Nashville coming up to kick off that six game road trip.

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Speaker 1: They're four back of the wildcard, which, depending on what

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Speaker 1: happens in the top three in the division, the wildcard

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Speaker 1: very much is a possibility for Seattle. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna come down to Edmonton, Seattle, you tall,

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Speaker 1: maybe Anaheim for that second. Those two wildcard spots, and

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Speaker 1: then out East, although they don't matter to you and

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Speaker 1: the standings, Ottawa's five back, you've got them coming up

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then Columbus is three back of a

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Speaker 1: wildcard spot.

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Speaker 5: You're there after Nashville later this month.

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Speaker 1: So those two teams in particular, they're trying to get

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Speaker 1: back in the playoffs, so they're not going to roll

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Speaker 1: over either. So the schedule provides some good opportunity for

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Speaker 1: Seattle to test themselves against some good teams, but also

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Speaker 1: it provides them with an opportunity to say, hey.

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Speaker 5: We've beaten Carolina, we beat.

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Speaker 1: Winnipeg earlier in the year before they have their falloff,

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Speaker 1: they beat Edmonton here at home the Colorado game next week.

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Speaker 5: That's going to be the big test for me.

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Speaker 1: I think if they can get by Colorado, if they

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Speaker 1: can get Colorado to overtime, if they lose four to

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Speaker 1: three in the last two minutes of the third period,

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Speaker 1: when they played a really good game throughout, that will

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Speaker 1: answer a lot of questions for me.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, going into that stretch on the road.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to David Paniota, I did want to

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Speaker 2: again bring up Ryan Lindren. He was seen in a

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Speaker 2: red non contact jersey at morning skate on Monday before

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Speaker 2: the Carolina game, so it leads us here to believe

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Speaker 2: he could be a few days away, maybe even this weekend.

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Speaker 2: But did cale Flury's performance last night you think maybe

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Speaker 2: change course where this could be pushed maybe into next week,

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Speaker 2: to perhaps give lynd Gren more time if he needs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, Mike.

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Speaker 6: I think that again, we've talked a lot about the

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Speaker 6: benefits of a healthy roster right now, and other than Lingren,

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Speaker 6: a very mostly healthy or healthy roster. Murray still on

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Speaker 6: IR as well. But I think when you when you

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Speaker 6: have that luxury, you have the luxury of giving a

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Speaker 6: guy an extra day or two if he needs it.

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Speaker 6: And for a guy that plays to kind of game

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Speaker 6: lingerin plays, I think he's a guy that could use

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Speaker 6: that extra day or two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cal Fleury has proven to be a really good option,

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Speaker 1: you know, in that seventh eighth defenseman category. It's been

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Speaker 1: also nice to see Kale this season get some more

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Speaker 1: consistent shifts on the ice. I mean, I remember, you know, Al,

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Speaker 1: you and I were talking to Calee back during training

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Speaker 1: camp and he was saying to us kind of effect that, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've been in this league now for a handful of years.

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven years old, primarily an AHL guy. This

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Speaker 1: is a make or break year for me. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of paraphrasing his overall.

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Speaker 5: Comments, but you know, this is a big year.

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Speaker 1: I need to show that I belong in the NHL

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Speaker 1: and I'm a full time NHLer And I think he's

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Speaker 1: proven that. Even though he's only got eighteen games this season,

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Speaker 1: the games that he has played and he's been effective,

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Speaker 1: He's not been out of place. He's been up here

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Speaker 1: all year long for the crack. And I also respect

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Speaker 1: a guy like cal Fleury for maybe wanting to play more,

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Speaker 1: but he knows his role. He doesn't complain. He's out

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Speaker 1: there to help the team as much as he can.

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Speaker 1: And every time I see him, he's gonna smile on

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Speaker 1: his face like he's happy to be in the National

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Speaker 1: Hockey League and you need a lot of guys like

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Speaker 1: that on your team.

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Speaker 5: He's got a goal and an assist.

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Speaker 1: I remember when he scored that goal, his first goal

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Speaker 1: in over two thousand days, back against Vancouver on January second.

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Speaker 1: I like the way that he plays. He's been able

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Speaker 1: to come in. He can slide and play with anyone

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Speaker 1: on the defensive corps. And you're right, I think that

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Speaker 1: game against Carolina last night showed me that if Lyndren

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Speaker 1: needs another day, he needs another.

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Speaker 5: Couple of games.

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Speaker 1: I have zero issue putting Calle Flury in that spot.

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Speaker 5: You know, to more than fill in that role for

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Speaker 5: Ryan lingran.

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Speaker 2: Again Kale Flury last night. Eighteen shifts, fourteen to eight

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Speaker 2: of ice time, two hits, four block shots as well.

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Speaker 2: My goodness for coming off the ben, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: in a depth role. That is a lease that you

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Speaker 2: can ask for here until the crack and can finally

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Speaker 2: get Ryan lynd Grin back again. Lane Lambert confirming he

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Speaker 2: is day to day all right again, pull question of

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Speaker 2: the way. Do you think ninety points will be enough

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Speaker 2: to make the playoffs this season in the Western Conference?

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Speaker 2: Go and vote right now with Crack and audio net

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Speaker 2: at Twitter NX. The one and only day Panyota right

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Speaker 2: after this right here on Cracking Weekly on ninety three

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Speaker 2: three KJRFM. Let's just say we have our shovels ready

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Speaker 2: and set to dig in Day Panyoda coming up in

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Speaker 2: just a bit here from the fourth period and NHL

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Speaker 2: Network before that time. Now for a look at the Firebirds,

577
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Speaker 2: so hanging in right now in the playoff race again

578
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: top seven make it in the Pacific Division. The Firebirds

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Speaker 2: within twenty games left right now fifth place and their

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00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: record at twenty eight nineteen and five sixty one points,

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Speaker 2: six points clear of the cut line in the Pacific Division.

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Speaker 2: They got a one off stop coming up in Henderson tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: that going down at seven o'clock and then back at

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Speaker 2: home back to back home games against the Calgary Wranglers

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Speaker 2: beginning on Saturday. That's a six pm faceop than three

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Speaker 2: pm for the rematch coming up on Sunday at Atrissure Arena.

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Speaker 2: Logan Morrison, Jagger, Fergus by the way, your co leading

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Speaker 2: scorers for the Firebirds. They are right now ninth and

589
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Speaker 2: tenth in American Hockey League scoring. Morrison leaves the Firebirds

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Speaker 2: twenty four goals. Furcus not too far behind him with nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Tyson Jugnat continuing to build his case right now as

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Speaker 2: a crack and prospect on the back end, he is

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Speaker 2: fifth amongst all defensemen in scoring and fourth amongst all

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Speaker 2: American Hockey League rookies in scoring as well. Seven goals

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Speaker 2: twenty eight assists in a thirty five point effort all

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Speaker 2: across fifty two games. You better believe it this keeps up.

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Speaker 2: We might be seeing Tyson Jugnass sooner then later. But

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Speaker 2: of course, you know, defenseman take a little bit more

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Speaker 2: time here to blue him and blossom as compared to Ford's,

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Speaker 2: especially when it comes to the minor league ranks. Again.

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Speaker 2: More Firebirds information Cvfirebirds dot Com. All right, without further

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Speaker 2: NHL trade deadline coming up this Friday noon Pacific time.

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Speaker 2: We can basically say, as of this point, the crack

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Speaker 2: and looking to be buyers here in this market, how

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Speaker 2: deep do they have to go to dig up a

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Speaker 2: top line or a top six score for a scoring

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Speaker 2: bump for them who could be out there and maybe

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Speaker 2: who might be on the move still here from this roster.

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Speaker 2: A lot of questions and a great place right here

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Speaker 2: to go for answers. All right, that brings us to

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Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. A pleasure to have the one

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Speaker 2: and only David Paniota joining us here on Cracking Weekly.

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Speaker 2: His handiwork at the fourth period also seen on NHL

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Speaker 2: Network here on SiriusXM, NHL Network Radio. And I would

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Speaker 2: bet the cell phone bill, the phone calls, the text

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Speaker 2: messages are enormous here for this week. David, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for joining us here. How is that cell phone by

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Speaker 2: the way this week?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: It's warm, trying to cool it down every now and

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Speaker 6: again when I can, but yeah, keeping a charge, keeping

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Speaker 6: the coffee pot full. And it's hopefully going to be

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Speaker 6: a pretty exciting week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for you and others in this capacity. It's the

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Speaker 2: most wonderful time of the year. As they say, trade

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Speaker 2: deadline coming up on Friday at noon Pacific time. I'll

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Speaker 2: first get into this here. It is so tight, especially

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Speaker 2: in the Western conference, how much, especially in how quiet

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Speaker 2: it was maybe this week to begin does the standings

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Speaker 2: that you think maybe having effect potentially on movement.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt it does.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking with a number of different gms and others

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Speaker 6: around the league. You know, a lot of teams are

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Speaker 6: a little bit hesitant to still do a little bit

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Speaker 6: of business early because they want to see how their

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Speaker 6: team performs, and it's also not only how their team performs,

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Speaker 6: but how others perform, to see how they can gauge

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Speaker 6: the seller's market for teams that are buying and vice versa.

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Speaker 6: So we may see, well, we did see a move

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Speaker 6: you know early between Chicago and Edmonton. We may see

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Speaker 6: a few more kind of trickle in, but it really

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Speaker 6: looks like Thursday and Friday day off the deadline seems

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Speaker 6: to be when a lot of business is expected to

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Speaker 6: get done league wide. You know, talks really started to

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Speaker 6: pick up about a week before the season resumed from

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Speaker 6: the Olympic break and everybody gauging the market, trying to

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Speaker 6: understand what the prices are, and then going back into

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Speaker 6: the start of the season, things just continue to escalate.

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Speaker 6: But everybody's still proceeding with a little bit of caution here,

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Speaker 6: or at least a good chunk of teams because they

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Speaker 6: still want to have a better understanding is where they're

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Speaker 6: where they're positioning, is going into Friday's deadline.

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Speaker 1: You know, David, a lot of folks know how aggressive

654
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: the Kraken probably should be. You know, this team for

655
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the last couple of years has been talking about wanting

656
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: and needing a bona fide.

657
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: Forward, how aggressive?

658
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: What types of move do you expect the Cracking to make,

659
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: because there's there's a difference there the Krack and need

660
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: to do X.

661
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: What do you expect them to.

662
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 6: Do right exactly? It takes two to tango. So they

663
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 6: can continue to search as much as they want. They've

664
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 6: got to find somebody else to dance with. And we

665
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 6: know that they've explored big names before. I put Seattle

666
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: into the category of big fish hunting. If they can

667
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 6: find that big fish at either end of the ice,

668
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 6: preferably upfront, then I think, you know, Jason Botterol and

669
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 6: Ron Francis and company are going to want to pull

670
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 6: the trigger on that. They've been exploring it going back

671
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: to last off season, going back to last season and

672
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 6: continue to We've seen them connected to guys like Jordan

673
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 6: Cayrou and of course they tried with respect to our

674
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 6: Tammy Panerin before he was traded to Los Angeles.

675
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: That just goes to show you.

676
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 6: The type of pool that they're fishing in, and that's

677
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 6: what they would like to do. There have been some

678
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 6: teams that have poked around on some of their pending

679
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 6: unrestricted free agents. Everything and every indication that I've been

680
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 6: given is that they want to.

681
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: Hold on to their guys.

682
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 6: They'll talk after the trade deadline and resume contract discussions

683
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 6: with a lot of those players.

684
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: After the deadline.

685
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 6: They want to focus on adding and again two to

686
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 6: pull this off. But from every indication I've been given

687
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 6: from people close to the organization and league wide, they

688
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 6: would like to make a splash. And if they can't

689
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 6: pull it off now, they're going to continue to look

690
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 6: to do that in the summer around draft time. But

691
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 6: that's the priority for this club right now. Make a

692
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 6: big splash. See if you can add a top six

693
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 6: preferably a first line type of player. And it wouldn't

694
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 6: shock me if they can actually do that between now

695
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 6: and the deadline. David, you know a lot of times

696
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 6: we talk to fans and the question we always get

697
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 6: asked is are the crack I'm going to make it,

698
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 6: make a move?

699
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: Are they going to make it?

700
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 6: And you know, we all know on this call that

701
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 6: it takes more than just answering that question. You've got

702
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 6: to find a team that's interested in something you have.

703
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 6: You've got to find a GM that you've got a

704
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 6: relationship with, You've got to find a player that wants

705
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 6: to play in Seattle. And so you know, you know

706
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 6: a lot of the names that are floating around out

707
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 6: there that might be candidates to be moved. Who do

708
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 6: you think are you know a couple of the favorites

709
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 6: that might be good fits in Seattle? Well, I think

710
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 6: they're going to continue if they haven't already, and I

711
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 6: suspect they have to circle back on guys like Cairo,

712
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 6: a player like Robert Thomas, his teammate in Saint Louis. Again,

713
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 6: those caliber of players that that are available that are

714
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: out there, there are others that are you know, you

715
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 6: have nosen Kadri and Vinnie Trochek and Braden Shan and

716
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 6: Ryan O'Reilly and so on that kind of you know,

717
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 6: have generated a ton of interest le league wide, But

718
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 6: it seems like the priority is top tier star to

719
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: add to this, to add to this lineup easier said

720
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 6: than done, clearly, because they would have done it already.

721
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 6: But you know, Bottlerel and everybody are trying to find

722
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 6: that one piece that they can add to to the group.

723
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: And it's not exclusive to a center or a winger.

724
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 6: If it is a winger, great they can add that

725
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: to the first line and immediately implement that. But that's

726
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 6: what they've been that's what they've been trying to do,

727
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 6: and it seems like they might be a little more

728
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 6: geared to the wing, but again, we'll see where that goes.

729
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 6: The other name that I'm a little bit curious about

730
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 6: is Elias Petterson not too far away in Vancouver. There

731
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 6: are teams that have interest in him. The Canucks have

732
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 6: made it clear they don't want to retain on that contract.

733
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 6: He's got eleven point six million dollars aav and they

734
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 6: are willing to listen. And a team like Seattle, with

735
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 6: a lot of cap space sitting around twenty twenty one

736
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 6: million right now, they have the financial flexibility to do it.

737
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 6: You know, whether they have the assets, the pieces in

738
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 6: the drive to pull that off, we you know, obviously

739
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 6: we'll have to wait and see. But again, these are

740
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 6: you know, top tier names across the National Hockey League,

741
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 6: and these are the caliber of players that Seattle is

742
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 6: trying to add over these next few days.

743
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: David Paniota joining us here on Cracking Weekly. I'll get

744
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: here to the Elias Peterson and Jake Debrust thing that

745
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: name also surfacing in just a bit here, But going

746
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: back here to Thomas and Jordan Kiro, David, as far

747
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: as what they're commanding here in the marketplace, what's the

748
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: realistic asking price right now where you see a lot

749
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: of teams, you know, pooning up the best offer here

750
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: for them.

751
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's substantials. Certainly Thomas is higher than that of

752
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 6: Cayrou's by all indications. Thomas is the package and the

753
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 6: cost that it would take. You're looking at a top

754
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 6: tier prospect, a first round pick and at least one

755
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 6: other asset to bring him out of Saint Louis, and

756
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 6: I think Kyros is a little bit less. You're probably

757
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 6: looking at a first round pick in a top prospect,

758
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 6: whereas for Thomas, you've got to add at least one

759
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 6: other piece as part of that. Now, the crack can

760
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 6: do have a pretty solid base. They've got some assets

761
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 6: that you know, some teams are certainly interested in. And

762
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: we've heard, you know, Shane Wright's name floating around. He's

763
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 6: been one carrot that the team seems to be willing

764
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 6: to dangle and and that other teams have expressed interest in.

765
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 6: That might be a centerpiece of a potential return depending

766
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 6: on the type of deal that comes into play here

767
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 6: for either of those guys or somebody else. But it's

768
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 6: going to be hefty, and it's one thing to take

769
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 6: on big dollars because both of those guys have eight

770
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: point one twenty five million dollars cap hits. Again, they

771
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 6: have the flexibility to add those caliber players and those

772
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 6: players with high prices, but you've got to give up

773
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 6: a certain package in order to achieve that. And that's

774
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 6: what clearly they seem to be evaluating when it.

775
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Comes to these names, the prospects or the players the

776
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: Kraken could potentially be getting.

777
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 5: Does term matter?

778
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, are the Kraken looking for a rental or

779
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: are they looking for someone who has a year two

780
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: three left on their deal that if we're going to

781
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: give up, say a Shane Wright, we want to have

782
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: another piece that we can at least build upon for

783
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: the next couple of years and hopefully re sign long term.

784
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, if we're talking about players of you know, Shane

785
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 6: writes Elk, you're you're looking at somebody with term. You're

786
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 6: looking at somebody who's not just going to help this

787
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 6: team now, not just going to help this team next season,

788
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 6: but for the foreseeable future, presumably a piece that's going

789
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 6: to build with this group and grow, which I should

790
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 6: say with this group as they continue to build into

791
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 6: into legitimate, you know, year after year and tenders. The

792
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 6: Panerian thing was a little bit different. Those caliber players

793
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 6: don't come around too often, and given the age, a

794
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 6: three year extension kind of tied to it made sense.

795
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: But for some of the others that are out there, Yeah.

796
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 6: They're primarily looking for controllable assets that either have full

797
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 6: term or are controllabile still of RFA status on the

798
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 6: restricted side, so you can still control their their future

799
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 6: and their fate moving forward. So if they do make

800
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 6: that type of impact move by moving out some of

801
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: their key young pieces or prospects slash draft picks, they

802
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 6: want to make sure that they're bringing in somebody who's

803
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 6: going to work with this team and the longevity of

804
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 6: that career is going to build with the Kraken. Put

805
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 6: your your biggest odds had on for a second, David,

806
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 6: then give us a few names who you think are

807
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 6: high likely not to be on their teams here in

808
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 6: a week. I suspect Blake Coleman is one player out

809
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 6: of Calgary that's going to be moved out over these

810
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 6: next few days. He's certainly at the top of my list.

811
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 6: I think we've got a few plays on Saint Louis.

812
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 6: You know, Cayrou and Thomas are so tough because of

813
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 6: how good they are and how those packages are. It's

814
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 6: hard to handicap you know kind of where that's that's

815
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 6: going to go. But I think Justin Falk is a

816
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 6: prime candidate to be moved. He has another him like Coleman,

817
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 6: both with one year left on their contracts.

818
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: What we've what we've been seeing lately is guys.

819
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 6: With term that have that aren't necessarily pure rentals on

820
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 6: expiring deals becoming more attractive because of how the salary

821
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 6: cap has increased, and everybody can kind of map out

822
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 6: their game plan rather than just have to figure it

823
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 6: out in the summer and move on. You can forecast

824
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 6: a little bit how your roster is going to look.

825
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 6: So teams are looking at players like Fulk with one

826
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: year left with Coleman, like Coleman, excuse me, with with

827
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 6: one year left as well. It seems like Coleman's teammate

828
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 6: nozem Kadri, there's a growing an increased chance that he

829
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 6: is going to be moved ahead of the deadline as well.

830
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 6: Also another name, Patrick lion A in Montreal. The Canadians

831
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 6: are looking to free up a little bit of cap space.

832
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: They've been talking to a number of teams about line eight.

833
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 6: It sounds like they'll retain on that deal. He's on

834
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 6: an expiring contract, but the expectation surrounding him is that

835
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 6: he will be moved ahead of the deadline. So the

836
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 6: odds a little bit more favorable on that front as well.

837
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: Andrew Manngrepani, who just cleared waivers in Edmonton. They've been

838
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 6: trying to move him. They're going to continue to do that.

839
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 6: A good chance and again expectation on that front that

840
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 6: he will find a new home over these next few days.

841
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: And Vinnie Trochek is.

842
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 6: Another one that by all indications, will be moved ahead

843
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 6: of the deadline. Big price as well for him, lower

844
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 6: cap hit at five point six two five million.

845
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: He's got three years left on that contract.

846
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 6: He's indicated and told everybody that he wants to stay

847
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 6: East or as close to East as possible.

848
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: So not a fit here, but you know, certainly.

849
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 6: A player that other teams are going to look at,

850
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 6: and the expectation on that end as well is that

851
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 6: he'll be moved by Friday's deadline.

852
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 5: Back to the comment that is son.

853
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: I love the comment that Trochek's sun had the other day, right, Yeah,

854
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: he was preparing his kid for the opportunity that he

855
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: could be traded, and his son is seven, and he goes, well, Dad,

856
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm staying here because I've not been traded from my

857
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: hockey team.

858
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 6: So I thought that was that was awesome. I like

859
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 6: that quote of the year already. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

860
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: Kids are real, Families are real. This trade deadline is real, David.

861
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: I want to get back here to the situation with

862
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: the LEAs Peterson and the Canucks where it just seems

863
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 2: like anything goes right now with their roster and time

864
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: is ticking. Jake Debrusk's name is in there. I kind

865
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: of got the sense maybe he would have been a

866
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: fit when he was originally available about a couple of

867
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: summers ago. Here on the crack inside Brock Besser's name

868
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: is out there. But between Besser Debrusk Petterson, what difference

869
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: is there to you, I think, for the fit in

870
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: this process and what it would take to get them

871
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: either one of them here and maybe what kind of

872
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: difference of a timeline are we looking at as well

873
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: now than say versus a summer when they could maybe

874
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Speaker 2: be on the move next.

875
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: Right, I'll throw kind of Garland in that mix as well.

876
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 6: He's very much available in Vancouver. And you know, these

877
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 6: types of players, and I think the Brusk actually acknowledged

878
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 6: this the other day that with the shift in direction

879
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: for the Canucks now going into a full rebuild, that's

880
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 6: not desirable for a lot of these players, especially those

881
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 6: who have been in the league for a while and

882
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 6: want to chase a championship, want to compete and win

883
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 6: on a regular basis. It's not exactly what the Brust

884
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 6: signed up for when he signed there as a free

885
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 6: agent a couple summers ago. You know, he wanted to

886
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 6: be in a position where he was going to be

887
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 6: on a contender and that's just not the case, there's

888
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 6: a willingness. He has a full no move, there is

889
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 6: a willingness for him to waive for the right for

890
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 6: what he feels is the right environment. So the Canucks

891
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 6: will continue those talks. They haven't been overly vast lately.

892
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: I think those conversations are going to start to pick

893
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: up on that front. Garland certainly a lot of interest there.

894
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 6: The price tags for those players certainly different than that

895
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: of Eleaz Petterson. But Petterson's case is fairly unique because

896
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 6: of his cap hit, where he's at and the struggles

897
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: that he's had over the last few seasons.

898
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 4: And he acknowledged this on Monday.

899
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 6: That he has not lived up to those expectationtions of

900
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 6: that contract and he's trying to get back in it.

901
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 6: A lot of people that have inter a lot of

902
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 6: teams excuse me, that have interest in him, believe he

903
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 6: can go back to that eighty ninety point player that

904
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 6: he was a few seasons ago.

905
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: But you're not paying for an eighty ninety point player.

906
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 6: You're paying, excuse me, for the player that he effectively is.

907
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 6: Plus with that salary cap hit of eleven point six million,

908
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 6: you're not going to be paying a premium for this player.

909
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 6: And I think the Canucks understand because they're not willing

910
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 6: to retain and how the player has been the last

911
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 6: few years, that they're not.

912
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 4: Going to get maximum value for him.

913
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 6: They're looking for a key piece, a centerpiece of that deal,

914
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 6: to be a top level prospect or young NHL caliber

915
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 6: player already that has first second line potential and then

916
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 6: other pieces added to it. That's kind of the price

917
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: tag there for guys like Connor, Garland and Debrusque, similar

918
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 6: type of mindset, first round pick in an additional last

919
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 6: set or equivalent value to a first round pick, and

920
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 6: another prospect added to it. So we'll see whether it's

921
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 6: a Crack or another team stepping up Vancouver listing on

922
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Speaker 6: a variety of different players, including their top tier guys.

923
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Speaker 1: I got one more for you here, David, and I've

924
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: always I've always want to ask someone in the know

925
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: this question.

926
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 5: You look at the NBA trade deadline.

927
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: They make this back early February with thirty some odd

928
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: games left, thirty five games after the season. When you're

929
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: looking at the NHL deadline and it's coming down after

930
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: the deadline, the Crack and will have twenty games left

931
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: in the regular season. Would you advocate or do Do you

932
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: think the timing of the deadline for the NHL is

933
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: one that works. Do you want to see it earlier

934
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: to maybe have if I'm giving up a first round pick,

935
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Speaker 1: or if I'm giving up all these top prospects, I'd

936
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: like more than twenty games to have this player. Where

937
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: do you stand on the timing overall of the deadline?

938
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind it personally.

939
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 6: It keeps it around the twenty five percent mark of

940
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: the regular season. It does add additional excitement. It does

941
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 6: provide a bit of a gap in the schedule in

942
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 6: terms of where we're at in the beginning.

943
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 4: Typically you've got All Star weekend.

944
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 6: This this year we had, you know, obviously the Olympics

945
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 6: last year was four Nations All Star returns next season,

946
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 6: so there's still a bit of a buffer after that,

947
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 6: and then you get into the home stretch after the deadline,

948
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 6: into into playoff mode. I kind of maybe it's because

949
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 6: I'm so acclimated to it and accustomed to it just

950
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 6: kind of flows. But I don't mind that flow. I

951
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 6: like I kind of like where things are at. You've

952
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 6: got that twenty game stretch before the playoffs where you know,

953
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 6: effectively for all the playoff bound teams, it's a full,

954
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 6: you know, steam ahead race and the hockey kind of intensifies.

955
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 6: It's kind of like mini playoffs before you get to

956
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 6: the actual playoff, which is which is why the NHL

957
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 6: has been such an advocate against expanding the playoff format

958
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 6: and going towards like a play in tournament. They feel that,

959
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 6: especially that stretch with the intensity for a lot of

960
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 6: those games, that's that's basically their playing tournament, and then

961
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 6: you get the playoffs itself. If lee continues to grow,

962
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 6: maybe that changes, but that's where they're at now, and honestly,

963
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 6: I don't mind it.

964
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: I like this scheduling of it.

965
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind NHL GM's being as bold and aggressive

966
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 6: as the NBA gms because those are some some pretty

967
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 6: wild and exciting trades.

968
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 5: Trading six first picks for one.

969
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Content Thunderland here for radio.

970
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 6: I'll tell you that, yeah, yeah, exactly, add so much

971
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 6: more to the conversation.

972
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe we'll see some more fireworks.

973
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 6: Of maybe not of that ad magnitude, but some fun

974
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 6: ones here later this week.

975
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: Is again, it looks like we're.

976
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 6: Going to see a lot of activity, maybe Thursday and

977
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 6: definitely Friday. But yeah, if they want to go to

978
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 6: the NBA route in terms of the explosive nature of

979
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 6: those deals, I'm all for it.

980
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: David, Hey, one more before we wrap this up here

981
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: and get the fireworks maybe ready here for you and

982
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: everybody else. You mentioned the l E. Tobn in situation

983
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: where an extension could be maybe on the table and

984
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: he's not going to get moved really unless there's a

985
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: big wow offer. But I mean, when you look at

986
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: the context of the remaining UFAs and their scenarios here,

987
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: is this still an open door where someone is moved

988
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: off the off or is there like a hockey trade

989
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: or the krack and don't want them move period, or

990
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: where this is kind of like an own rental maybe

991
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: until extensions are basically reached.

992
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, my understanding with with tolven and the other three

993
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: key you know, Penning, Ufa, Schwartz, every and Alexiak Excuse me,

994
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 6: it sounds like the messaging to them was Hank tight,

995
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 6: we have no plans to move you. Someone's going to

996
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 6: have to really convince us, uh for us to even

997
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 6: consider that possibility right now, because they're they're mindset's on

998
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 6: the playoffs and they're trying to add to this group.

999
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 6: So unless they're completely you know, blown away by by

1000
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 6: an offer, it sounds like those guys are going to

1001
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: stay for the time being. And I was told that

1002
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 6: extension conversations will get back to it after the deadline,

1003
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 6: So perhaps next week is when things will start to

1004
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 6: pick up on tolven In's front, and uh some of

1005
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 6: the other some of the other guys as well, So effectively,

1006
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 6: I guess, technically, because they're not going to be locked

1007
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 6: in early utilized as their own rentals for the time being.

1008
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 6: But the plan is to have those conversations or at

1009
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 6: least pick up those conversations contract wise after the deadline

1010
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 6: as they look to as they look to add. So

1011
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 6: I'd be a little bit surprised, but as I if

1012
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 6: any of those guys removed, but as I said, unless

1013
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 6: their socks are blown off, you know, it's a possibility,

1014
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 6: but more likely that they stick around and that the

1015
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 6: cracking ads in this group in the next few days.

1016
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: Great stuff here, David Panyota, Busiest time of the year,

1017
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: most wonderful time of the year, joining us here from

1018
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: the fourth period and NHL Network and David, I I

1019
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: bid you I do for now by saying, may your

1020
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: cell phone battery be high and the Twitter and x

1021
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: make accounts below. Thank you very much.

1022
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: Thank that would be lovely. Thank you, thanks for having.

1023
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: Me, guys, fantastic once again, appreciate the info, David, Thank

1024
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: you very much. As David pan Yota. By the way,

1025
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 2: find him at Twitter and x at the fourth period.

1026
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: His handiwork also seen via NHL Network and heard via

1027
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 2: Sirius XM, NHL Network Radio. NHL insider David Panyoda joining

1028
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: us here on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. All right, more

1029
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: reaction plus our three stars coming up after this right

1030
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,560
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1031
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: Cracking Audio Net the place to votes for our whole

1032
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: question of the week. Do you see ninety points being

1033
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: enough here to make the Stanley Cup playoffs? As of

1034
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: right now, A staggering seventy two percent of you say

1035
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: the answer is yes. Seventy two percent of you say

1036
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: ninety points will be enough to make the Stanley Cup playoffs.

1037
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: Go and vote right now at Twitter and XS at

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00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: Cracking Audio nets again to reach that mark for the Kraken,

1039
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Speaker 2: it will require twenty three points only in the final

1040
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: twenty two games of the regular season. All right, trade

1041
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: deadline once again coming up noon Pacific time this Friday.

1042
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Speaker 5: Eight.

1043
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: My goodness, David Panota, thank you very much. That was

1044
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: a treasure trove of information. Oh my god, that.

1045
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 5: Might have been one of our best conversations.

1046
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: Because of anything we said.

1047
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 5: His answers, Oh yeah, no.

1048
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: No, we yeah, we If anything, we brought it down

1049
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, he made he made us sound like

1050
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: we knew what we're talking about.

1051
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: He is, he has called an insider for certainly a

1052
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: very particular reason. That's a big tip of the cap

1053
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: here to David Paniota joining us.

1054
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: These guys, like, I want to ask a David Paniota,

1055
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: Elliott Freeman, you know, on the on the NFL side,

1056
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, how do you become an insider?

1057
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1058
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 5: Like, because a lot of these guys aren't former players,

1059
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: they're not coaches, they're not you.

1060
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: Know, as far as we know, they're not in the

1061
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: in crowd.

1062
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: How do they get in the in crowd?

1063
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, I've always been curious, and I don't think

1064
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: that's something you can ever ask an insider publicly that

1065
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: maybe one of those things where you open up a

1066
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: bottle of line and you swear to secrecy.

1067
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: But I'm always curious how these guys build.

1068
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: And forage these relationships to become insiders. It's always been

1069
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: fascinating to me that.

1070
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: That always, to me goes back to the old rule

1071
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: of journalism, where I know, ever reveal my inside sources?

1072
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 5: Oh no, never.

1073
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: But I'm curious how thick that rollodex is. That's a

1074
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: big thing for me, and how big.

1075
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: The big for the big guys too right, for the

1076
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: for the Shefters, for the Elliott Friedman's, Bob McKenzie before

1077
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: he retired. You know, you look at Sham's in the NBA,

1078
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: you know Jeff Passing in Major League Baseball. These guys

1079
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: have been doing it for fifteen, twenty thirty plus years.

1080
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: I mean they how much info can you store in

1081
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: a phone? And that again, it was it was. It's

1082
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: always been something that I love a thirty for thirty

1083
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: on how to become an insider or behind the scenes

1084
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: and becoming an insider, And that's something that I've always

1085
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: always been curious about.

1086
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: I can't wait for the wildest stories for that thirty

1087
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: for thirty because we hear of a court we at

1088
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: least see Elliott Freeman literally texting as he's doing a

1089
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: live TV hit at the same time. Then we hear

1090
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: about stories of guys like Adam Schefter. He literally has

1091
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: a car service for him where he is working in

1092
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: the car in the passenger seat, on the phone on

1093
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: Twitter and X and someone else is driving for him.

1094
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: This is a very, very fascinating industry that we're a

1095
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: part of, the Fear. Big thank you today, Paniota once again,

1096
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: all right to our Mailbak segment. Once again, find us

1097
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: at Twitter and X at Kraken Audio Net, and we

1098
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: get to one here from Claude saying, is Jamie Alexiak

1099
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: showing up as the trade deadline approaches and need more

1100
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: shots on goal, especially in the third but otherwise good

1101
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: energy here from last evening, I'll revert back to what

1102
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: David Panyota told us and where we're learning that the

1103
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: Kraken aren't actively shopping their UF phase. And I think

1104
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: if you're able to find what you got from Alexiak

1105
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: last night on a consistent basis the physicality of his nature.

1106
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: He's a six foot seven behemoth that is a serious

1107
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: what we call quote unquote own rental coming up here

1108
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: for the trade deadline. So what really got the juices

1109
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: flowing for him? We may not know whether it was

1110
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: a conversation or something else here, but I mean it

1111
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: was certainly fascinating as far as the optics us being

1112
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: four days out here from the trade deadline to see

1113
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: an eleven hit game and the block shots that he had.

1114
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: But I mean, assuming that they're gonna stay course, so

1115
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: all the UFAs, that was some serious, serious light at

1116
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: the end of the tunnel we saw for what they

1117
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: could be building up here ahead of trade deadline time.

1118
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna look at this from from

1119
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: a personal introspective.

1120
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 5: Lens.

1121
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: I think for Jamie Alexiak, it's no secret that he's

1122
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: been the subject of trade rumors for the last couple

1123
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: of seasons, and that can be very hard to always

1124
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: have in the back of your mind that you know,

1125
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: am I staying?

1126
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 5: Am I going? Where am I going?

1127
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: You know that we forget that players are more than

1128
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: just numbers and assets, you know what I mean. These

1129
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: people have These people have people, They have families and

1130
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: why and kids and all that stuff. So I think,

1131
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 1: you know, listening to David Panota and saying that, hey,

1132
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, we're not gonna get rid of you, We're

1133
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: going to keep you here. To me, that says, you know,

1134
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: and again I'm going to speculate, which is the one

1135
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: thing you're never.

1136
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 5: Supposed to do.

1137
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: But to me, that says that Laine Lamberton or Ron

1138
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: or Bots or whoever had a conversation I said, listen,

1139
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: you helped us get here.

1140
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 5: You're part of this.

1141
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: We want you part of this, and that type of

1142
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: buy in even though he's an unexpiring deal. You never

1143
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in the summertime. But even

1144
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: though you know you don't have any clarity on your

1145
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: future past this season, that type of belief, I think

1146
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: it goes a long way. So you saw last night

1147
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: again a guy that was given the vote of confidence.

1148
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: You helped us get here, We want you a part

1149
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: of this. And you know, Jamie Lexiaks has never been

1150
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: a guy who will shirk his defensive responsibilities. I think

1151
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: his size is reached the way that he plays the game.

1152
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: Never known for being overly physical, but I don't think

1153
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: he's ever really needed to be, just because of how

1154
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: well he plays that position. But last night I think

1155
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: was a really good breath of fresh air. And I

1156
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: think if Alexi I can play that way throughout the

1157
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: stretch and in the playoffs, that's the type of player

1158
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: that can change your fortunes and can change the direction

1159
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: of a playoff series.

1160
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw a guy that clearly you know, had

1161
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 6: been given a spark. Well you know what that spark was.

1162
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 6: Where it came from is anybody's guest. That's the speculation part.

1163
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 6: But that's a game where Alexi I had more physical

1164
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 6: play than I've seen in three years. And my question

1165
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 6: is are you going to see it tomorrow night? Are

1166
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 6: you going to see it in the game after that?

1167
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 6: He doesn't have to be eleven hits, but if he's

1168
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 6: getting four to seven hits every game going forward, that's

1169
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 6: a different level to his game.

1170
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: And I hope he does.

1171
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 6: I really hope he does, because he's a bigger threat,

1172
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 6: no pun intended, when he's playing that way.

1173
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: It would not surprise me to see, you know, just

1174
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: like for the Crack and other teams kind of go

1175
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: through this whole process of having their own rentals, meeting

1176
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: UFAs about the contracts dry up and we'll see how

1177
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: long it takes until which ones are extended here. But

1178
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, my goodness, if you can maybe split the

1179
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: difference with what Alexiak gave and dial it back to

1180
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three playoff Jamie Alexiak, that is a serious

1181
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: physical upgrade for the blue line that you need to

1182
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: really put a scare into teams coming up here for

1183
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: playoff time. Time to get to our three stars, zeal Kiniski,

1184
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: why don't you take it away here? Go ahead?

1185
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, First of all, I gotta start with the defensive

1186
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 6: side of the line. I thought Adam Larson has had

1187
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 6: a good couple of games, and I'm basing this off

1188
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 6: of the two wins, not the two losses coming out

1189
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 6: of the break. He's had two assists and two hits

1190
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 6: in that time, and he's always consistently a backstop for

1191
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 6: this team. So he's my third star, my second star.

1192
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 6: You know, we've talked a little bit on this about

1193
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 6: Chandler Stevenson. He had a goal and two assists in

1194
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 6: those games. He was plus due. But I want to

1195
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 6: point out a couple of stats that Fitz and I

1196
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 6: talked about on the broadcast last night going into the

1197
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 6: game last night, he was second on the team and

1198
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 6: shooting percentage. After the game, he's taking the number one spot.

1199
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 6: So he is the sharpest shooter on the team right

1200
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 6: now at eighteen point nine percent. That's better than Jared McCann.

1201
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 6: That's better than Jordan Eberley. So when we're talking about

1202
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 6: Chandler Stevenson, keep that in mind.

1203
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: His best.

1204
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 6: He's also your best face off man at fifty two

1205
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 6: point two percent as well. That continues game in and

1206
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 6: game out. So he's my second star. My first star

1207
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 6: is going to go to the captain, Jordan Eberley. Almost

1208
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 6: a hat trick, a sort of hat trick, a two goals,

1209
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 6: one assists. You know, that was against Vancouver. I felt

1210
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 6: bad for him because you know, those those opportunities don't

1211
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 6: come around very often. And let's be honest, he's in

1212
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 6: the latter half of his career. You don't know when

1213
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 6: your next hat trick's going to come. That might have

1214
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: been the last one. Who knows.

1215
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: I hope it's not. But he's my number one star.

1216
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: Ever, go ahead, and those are all great.

1217
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, I wrestled with this because you had two

1218
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: clunkers and you had two really good games. I think

1219
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go my third star overall this week. I'm

1220
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: gonna go Copocaco. I think you get the goal for

1221
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: him in Saint Louis. He scores again last night, and

1222
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: I the way that he's played out of this Olympic break,

1223
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't skipped a beat. It can be

1224
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: easy for a guy who's played extra hockey, didn't have

1225
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: any time off to need that break, and he did

1226
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: sit in that first game out against Dallas. But you

1227
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: know when he comes back in St. Louis, immediately gets

1228
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: the crack and almost scoreboard. He had a really good

1229
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: game I thought against Vancouver last night although he was left.

1230
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: He had a goal last night as well, plus one.

1231
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: So I think the way that that he's played out

1232
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: of the break overall has been good. I think Number

1233
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: two for me is Jordan Eberlee for what Al said,

1234
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, the hat trick that wasn't but he's continuing here.

1235
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, second best offensive start to his season of

1236
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: his career. This is now the second fastest he's ever

1237
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: gotten to this goal mark through fifty games for him,

1238
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: so you know, fifty plus games, he's got more goals

1239
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: now than he's ever had except for one season, and

1240
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: he's continuing to find that fountain of youth and leading

1241
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: this team by example. And I'm gonna give my number

1242
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: one started Chandler Stevenson. I think I said it before

1243
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: in the beginning. He gets I think way too much

1244
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: flack for the the underlying numbers, And anyone who watches

1245
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: this team on a consistent basis will tell you there's

1246
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: a reason why he takes most, if not all, of

1247
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: your defensive draws. There's a reason why he is one

1248
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: of your best skaters. It looks so effortless that people

1249
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: want to call him lazy. He's not lazy. He's just

1250
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: that good of a skater that it looks so effortless.

1251
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: And sure, his shot quality volume per whatever is it

1252
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: as high as you'll want it to be. But he's

1253
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: got the second highest shooting percentage on this team. He

1254
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: had a two point three point night the other night,

1255
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 1: and even though he snapped an eight game goals rout

1256
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: or eleven game goal drout the other day, he still

1257
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: has got ten points his last twelve game. So I

1258
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: think Chandler Stevenson for me, has been one of the

1259
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: best players for the crack in this season. Watch him play.

1260
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: Look at the eye test, you'll see it there. That's

1261
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 1: my number one star for the week.

1262
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: For my three stars, it begins with a couple of

1263
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: names here that and fit into this picture where it

1264
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: takes a lot to end a team like the Carolina

1265
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: Hurricanes has run of ten to zero and two finally

1266
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: snapped in last night's game. My third star goes to

1267
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: Jamie Alexiak, who had the obvious numbers eleven hits well

1268
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: last night in the game, putting his body on the

1269
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: line three block shots. I said this earlier quintessential vintage

1270
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three playoffs, Jamie Alexiak, if they can get

1271
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: that kind of presence out of him, may be a

1272
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: little bit I think split in the difference, they're going

1273
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: to be in really good shape. In my goodness, what

1274
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: a formidable deep pair you've got now between him and

1275
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: Brandon Montour as well. Plus also you think the value

1276
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: that he's got for the penalty kill or we mentioned

1277
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: last night in finding a way to shut it down

1278
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: against Carolina. Look at the top guys that were deployed

1279
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: by Lane Lambert to close out that two to one win,

1280
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: among them Stevenson Goodreau, Larsen, ben Myers, and Jamie Alexiak,

1281
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: who was on the ice to close out Game seven

1282
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: against Colorado Beck in twenty twenty three. Jamie Alexiak, he

1283
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: showed the kind of game that you'd need from a

1284
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: run good and physical approach to win games at this

1285
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: time of year. He's my third star. My second star

1286
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: goes to Jordan Everly for what he did back this

1287
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: last weekend against Vancouver. Nearly had a hat trick, but

1288
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: his play with Maddy Beneer's electrifying and depending upon if

1289
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: they add somebody here by trade deadline time, the attention

1290
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: will focus I think on him Veniers as well, Jared McCann.

1291
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: Can that line show up in key moments and in

1292
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: key games as well against the Canucks. Yes, I know,

1293
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: worst team in the NHL, You're not going to find

1294
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: someone I think that consistently who's a lop set of

1295
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: bet here to beat in this tretch drive. But I

1296
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: think just for the fact where they had to get

1297
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: a win to get back on the tracks, that top

1298
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: line came through. One of these days, Emily's going to

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01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: have a hat trick and Jordan every Yet is my

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01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: second star of this past week. My first Star goes

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: to Joey Decord showing up in big games. Had to

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: get a win against vancou and against Carolina, a big

1303
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: hill to climb, thirty six save effort. He was phenomenal

1304
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: turning in key saved down the stretch as well. Him

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01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: plus Philip Grewbauer. If you can find again that consistent

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: or that a consistency between them in these games coming

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: up in March and April, that is a big, big

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01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: piece of the sauce for the Laine Lambert recipe that

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01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: you need to win games and get into the Stanley

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01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: Cup playoffs. The Cords showed up when it mattered big

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Speaker 2: time last night against Carolina. He's my first star, all right,

1312
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: gotta run big. Thank you once again to David Paniota.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you once again very soon tomorrow night,

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01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: by the way, against Saint Louis on air six point thirty,

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01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: face up, little past seven o'clock. Big thanks to Everett

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01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: Now and a David Panyota and for cracking weekly. I

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Speaker 2: might bet and see it