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Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm felling you easy.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Thanks very much, Dan Watkins. It

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Speaker 2: is a nine oh eight and we are delighted to

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Speaker 2: be joined again by the Massachusetts State Auditor, Diana Dezaglio,

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Speaker 2: Madam Auditor, welcome back to nightside. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me Dan, I've been better,

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Speaker 3: but thanks for rusking.

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Speaker 2: I do understand that. Okay, So you are in the

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Speaker 2: midst of a bit of a battle at the State

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. I've done my research on the story here.

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Speaker 2: You can tell it much better than I can. But

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Speaker 2: a single justice of the State Supreme Court has decided that,

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Speaker 2: in her opinion, you do not even deserve the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to argue the case on behalf of seventy two percent

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Speaker 2: of the voters in Massachusetts to allow you to audit

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Speaker 2: the state legislature. That to me seems like a miscarriage

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Speaker 2: of justice. And I believe that that you of being

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Speaker 2: denied due process as a statewide office holder, What do

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Speaker 2: you make of this?

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Speaker 3: I am being denied due process right now, and so

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Speaker 3: are seventy two percent of the general So is seventy

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Speaker 3: two percent of the general public out there. Look, Dan,

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Speaker 3: you're an attorney, you get this. But for folks at

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Speaker 3: home who are not attorneys like me, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: talk about it this way. Look, we have a right

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Speaker 3: It's actually our constitutional right to get that impartial hearing.

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Speaker 3: And what's happened is I've tried to audit the state legislature.

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Speaker 3: They have blocked us from being able to do so.

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Speaker 3: I begged the Attorney General to at least let us

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Speaker 3: in the Supreme Judicial Court here in Massachusetts, and the

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Speaker 3: is unacceptable. It actually makes it under law so that

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Speaker 3: I have what's called the ability to have conflict counsel.

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Speaker 3: Justice Justice Wendlet, she actually said that she doesn't you know,

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Speaker 3: and I'm paraphrasing here, but she doesn't believe we have

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Speaker 3: stated that we didn't cite any law, our statute to

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Speaker 3: what's called conflict council now, Dan, every time other state

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Speaker 3: agencies have had disagreements between state government, where one state

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Speaker 3: which is due process. That's a protected right. But what

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Speaker 3: which again is a constitutional right of ours. Now, let

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Speaker 3: that's what she chooses, and she did choose to do that,

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Speaker 3: she did file in court on their behalf. But now

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Speaker 3: that she's chosen, now that she's made the choice to

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Speaker 3: She was blocking us before, but she cannot block us anymore.

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Speaker 3: She does not have unfettered authority to block people from

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: It says that we are supposed to have what do

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Speaker 3: P perty and justice for all. But we have a

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Speaker 3: you're privileged. And that's the message that the Single Justice

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Speaker 3: I think it's setting a very dangerous present precedent, and

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think there's a lot of public

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Speaker 2: as the seventy two percent of the people of Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: and there is a dispute between the between your branch

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Speaker 2: to come in and resolve that. We've seen that over years.

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Speaker 2: You know, did Nixon have to give up information on

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Speaker 2: gets decided by the Supreme Court same way here. Now,

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Speaker 2: the fact that the Attorney General has not stood with you,

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Speaker 2: I am stunned that you have been put through all

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Speaker 2: And it's pretty clear to me that there's not a

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Speaker 2: I also have reason to believe I read an article

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Speaker 3: Justice Justice Quarity is incredibly well respected and rightly so.

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Speaker 3: And he did come out and side with our office

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Speaker 3: and this is what's happening, folks. Look when people say

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Speaker 2: Let me just let me if I can, Madam Monitor,

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Speaker 2: as somebody who's covered the political scene in Massachusetts for many,

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Speaker 2: it has to go to the court to be resolved satisfactorily.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. I'm going to invite people to call.

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Speaker 2: But the proviso is you have to understand that the

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Speaker 2: To be really honest with you, Diana, it's been I'm

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Speaker 2: it's it's amazing the work that you do and the

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Speaker 2: I work really hard five days a week, a little

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Speaker 2: seven full seven days a week, full time. We'll take

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back with the State of udor the

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Speaker 2: Corwealth of Massachusetts, who is merely asking the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: of the law to allow her to simply do her

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Speaker 2: My guess there's the state order of the car both

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Speaker 2: Well, President I just want to do two things. I

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Speaker 2: I will admend that that invitation and to do it,

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Speaker 3: You know what's happening in this situation with the power

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Speaker 2: And the people have voted on this issue. They have voted,

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Speaker 2: No, but before you go, let me just say that

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Speaker 3: Well, look at I appreciate you Dan, you know, taking

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Speaker 3: You can't do that. Yes, I can do that, and

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Speaker 2: Right or this and this matter should go to the

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Speaker 2: the Globe at a twenty auditor is ugly. Oh, thank

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, have a great night, everybody, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Stay wrong, very welcome.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know some of you are thinking, why

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Speaker 2: is Dan so concerned about this case. I'm so concerned

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Speaker 2: about this case because it is a question of power

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Speaker 2: corrupting and corrupting. Absolutely. This is the Camwealth of Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: where everybody talks about transparency and openness and democracy dies

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Speaker 2: in darkness. Well, if democracy dies in darkness, what dies

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Speaker 2: on Beacon Hill? When an effort by the state auditor

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Speaker 2: is being frustrated at every turn, not only by the

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House and the Senate President and I

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Speaker 2: guess they are leadership teams, but also by the Attorney

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Speaker 2: General for the Kalmwalth of Massachusetts. This is I got

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Speaker 2: to tell you, this is very, very serious. Can you

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Speaker 2: imagine if this was going on with this audacity in Washington,

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Speaker 2: the nation would be would be intermoil. But in Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: we kind of we just roll over and forget about it.

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Speaker 2: I thought today when I saw the story that Samantha

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Speaker 2: Guthrie was back at her the NBA SEE studios in

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Speaker 2: New York for the Today Show, although she was not

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Speaker 2: in the air. How soon we forget the attention span

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Speaker 2: of all of us on issues like this is so quick,

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Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie. The story dominated the news for three or

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Speaker 2: four days, maybe a week, and then we had it.

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Speaker 2: They still had live cruise there. But then the live

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Speaker 2: cruise disappeared, and now the story has world have vanished

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Speaker 2: into ether. This is a story that everyone in Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: who voted for this audit. And by the way, what

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Speaker 2: are they hiding if they are unwilling to be audited?

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Speaker 2: That is the question I have. First call is from

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire. Let's go to Steven Merrimack, New Hampshire, Steve, Welcome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks dam for taking my call. I couldn't let this

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Speaker 5: one go away because I grew up in mass as

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Speaker 5: you know, and like many other.

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Speaker 2: You now moved to New Hampshire. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: It's a travesty. You know, the way that the the legislature,

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Speaker 5: the attorney general and ultimately the governor who appoints all

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Speaker 5: these people, you know, the what which her Diana? She

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Speaker 5: is doing exactly the right thing as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 5: And basically it comes down to, you know, what is

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Speaker 5: the audit function, whether it's a company or a government,

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Speaker 5: is to keep everybody honest and also to make sure

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Speaker 5: what they're reporting is true and accurate. Yes, and and that.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think that they're I think they're morally corrupt,

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Speaker 5: and I think they might be running a criminal enterprise

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Speaker 5: down there. I'm not sure. But the more that they

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Speaker 5: do what they're doing, it just shows what their true

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Speaker 5: colors are. And I think that for her to persevere

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Speaker 5: like she has, I think you know that that's exactly

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Speaker 5: the right thing. And I think that your show where

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Speaker 5: you expose what they're doing, don't they do listen and

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Speaker 5: it does I don't know ask the local papers like

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Speaker 5: the Globe and others are reporting.

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Speaker 2: On it, but well, the Globe is taking the Globe

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Speaker 2: was taking an editorial position. You know, it was funny.

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Speaker 2: At some point the senior senator from Massachusetts, Elizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 2: basically there were some bumper strips in which she said

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Speaker 2: that she had persisted, and a lot of the progressives

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Speaker 2: were thrilled that Elizabeth Warren had persisted. Well, if Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: Warren had persisted, Diana Desauglio has set a new standard

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Speaker 2: for persistence, because it is Diana Desagnio against the entire

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Speaker 2: power structure of Beacon Hill. And if, as citizens of Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: we are not concerned about this case, there's something wrong

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Speaker 2: with us because it is our tax, it's our votes

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Speaker 2: that she wants to follow, which is now a Lauren Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: and it's being denied by the Senate President and the

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House, and the Supreme Judicial Court seems

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Speaker 2: to be unwilling to do much on it. The Attorney

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Speaker 2: General is doing nothing but throwing roadblocks in front of Zaglio,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to saying, of course, i'll represent you. Because

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Speaker 2: they're in the same branch of government, they're in the

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Speaker 2: executive branch of government. And this is an argument between

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Speaker 2: the executive, the functions of the executive, and the I

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Speaker 2: guess I would call it the the ways that the

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Speaker 2: ways and means of the legislative And I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about the Ways and Means Committee. I'm talking about the

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Speaker 2: ways and means and this is this is, this is

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Speaker 2: just unacceptable. Period.

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Speaker 5: They're well acquainted with how to tax you. Oh, come

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Speaker 5: to how they spend the money. That's the big question mark.

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Speaker 2: They don't want you to know. They don't want you.

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Speaker 5: To want money.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the serious go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Remember number four years ago when they had a three

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Speaker 5: billion dollar surplus and they had to give the money back.

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Speaker 5: There must have been a lot of tears on Beacon

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Speaker 5: Hill from that one.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're fighting now. They want to reduce the income tax.

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Speaker 2: In Massachusetts. There's a group that wants to reduced the

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Speaker 2: income tax from five to four percent. I guarantee you

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Speaker 2: that Beacon Hill, the powers that be up there are

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Speaker 2: going to fight against that. In New Hampshire, you don't

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Speaker 2: have a state income tax, no no so but but

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Speaker 2: we simply are looking to cut it. Uh, there are

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Speaker 2: people trying to cut it from five to four percent,

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Speaker 2: and they're they're screaming like wounded elephants. Anyway, Steve, I

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Speaker 2: love you, Paul.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad because the people are listening and a pitbull.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Steve, if you know it took me fifteen years

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Speaker 2: in the Salvati case, Okay, I didn't quit on that,

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Speaker 2: and I won't quit on this. We finally did get

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Speaker 2: an indictment on the Lens Joseph case, the little boy

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Speaker 2: in Hyde Park who was run over by the bus

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Speaker 2: that he had just gotten off of. Finally, I think

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Speaker 2: it's eleven months too late, but well, it's obviously it's

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Speaker 2: good that it came down, so I will stick with it. Steve.

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Speaker 2: I hope the callers will will support me, and I

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Speaker 2: appreciate your support. Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jim, talk.

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Speaker 2: To you soon. We'll take a very quick break. The

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Speaker 2: only lines open right now are six one, seven, nine, three, one,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. I'll try to get everybody in. I can't

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Speaker 2: guarantee it, but I will guarantee Frank, Kathy and David

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Speaker 2: you're all set. We're gonna get to you guys right

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Speaker 2: after this. If you'd like to join six one, seven, nine, three,

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Speaker 2: one ten thirty the only two lines that are open.

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Speaker 2: Diana Desauglio is fighting the fight on behalf of the

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Speaker 2: seventy two percent of the people who voted for this audit.

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Speaker 2: It is law in Massachusetts. It should be recognized and

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Speaker 2: followed by those who pass laws in Massachusetts, namely the

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Speaker 2: Senate President and the House Speaker. Coming back on night.

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Speaker 1: Side, You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ,

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Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna try to get everybody. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: the WBZ car guys coming up, Larry and Scott Rubinstein

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Speaker 2: after the ten o'clock news gonna go next. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I am just going to listen, see what you think,

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Speaker 2: agree to disagree. Frank in Wilmington. Next on Nightside, Frank are.

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Speaker 6: Right ahead, first time call, long time listener.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. Frank. You get a quick

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Speaker 2: round of reports and the digital audience love to know

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Speaker 2: what you think.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so I get I got a comment, and then

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Speaker 6: two quick questions that you can probably answer you smarter

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Speaker 6: than I am.

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Speaker 2: Not one.

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Speaker 6: My comment isn't something, it's I'm reluctant to comment this way. However,

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Speaker 6: we all go out and vote and those that vote.

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Speaker 6: Always tell the people to vote the ones that we

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Speaker 6: think that don't or we try to get everybody.

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Speaker 5: To vote your opinion out there.

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Speaker 7: Sure, so we vote.

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Speaker 6: Now this gets in.

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Speaker 7: This passes, and it's not followed through its ignoring.

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Speaker 2: What is the point of voting? It would make me

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Speaker 2: more anxious to vote and to vote the people out

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Speaker 2: of office who we cannot give up our franchise. Too

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Speaker 2: many people died and have sacrificed for the franchise that

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Speaker 2: you and I have, the sacred franchise. You have to

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Speaker 2: get more people to get out of vote and turn

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Speaker 2: turn the scoundrels out. We're in a one party state.

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Speaker 2: We have to make Massachusetts a competitive two party state

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Speaker 2: or this stuff is going to continue forever.

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Speaker 5: I agree, Thank you for that answer.

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Speaker 7: All right, number Here's here's my two quick questions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, quies, Well, we vote, we.

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Speaker 7: Vote, it gets in. It's a law.

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Speaker 6: So why why isn't these people arrested? Who's holding this up?

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Speaker 5: And how do we all.

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Speaker 2: The power brokers on Beacon Hill? That's the point. The

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Speaker 2: only person who's out there fighting for the right to

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Speaker 2: audit is the auditor. She has seventy two percent of

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Speaker 2: the people in Massachusetts. It's frustrating, Frank, but we got

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Speaker 2: to get out out there and we got to vote,

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Speaker 2: not less. We have to vote more and more often.

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Speaker 2: We got to get our neighbors and friends out there

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Speaker 2: to vote and turn some of these people out of office. Frank,

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Speaker 2: I love your call. But I got three other people

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Speaker 2: who I promised I'll get them a minute or two

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Speaker 2: as well. Okay, please call again. I love your call,

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Speaker 2: Love your call. Thank you you too, Kathy. You got

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Speaker 2: to be quick for me, Kathy and Lunenburg.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, Kathy, Hi, Dan, you actually just throve home

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Speaker 8: the point that I was going to make. We have

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Speaker 8: to get balance on Deacon Hill. There is no balance none.

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Speaker 8: You remember I ran six years ago, yep. I was

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Speaker 8: up against someone who is now still in office, which

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Speaker 8: still kind of boggles the mind.

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Speaker 2: And well, if we don't vote, if we don't vote

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Speaker 2: for change, nothing will change. And you have Diana de Zauglio,

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Speaker 2: who is a Democrat fighting against the Democratic power brokers

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Speaker 2: who were in it simply for power. Just ash a

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Speaker 2: boy act and said power corrupts, absolute, power corrupts.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely this and this is why simple bills like COMMUNI

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Speaker 8: choice bills from long ago that still lingers somewhere in

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Speaker 8: outer space doesn't pass. It would seem so common sense.

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Speaker 8: Back when I was naive fifteen years ago and a

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Speaker 8: Democrat by the way, before I ran as a Republican.

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Speaker 2: From you, you were no longer naive. I learned, Thanks Kathy,

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Speaker 2: I gotta keep rolling. Thank you so much. Yeah, David

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Speaker 2: in Jamaica plane, David got to be quick for me.

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Speaker 2: I want to get Andrew and Paved in as well.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, David, Dan you once told me that radio

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Speaker 4: is the theater of the mind, and I want to

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Speaker 4: know that this kind of betrayal. It's like in the

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Speaker 4: movies when the and it's not like for but when

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Speaker 4: they're running from the bad guys. They're running from people

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Speaker 4: that are trying to get rid of your civil rights.

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Speaker 4: They're running from the bad guys and they get to

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Speaker 4: the police office and they say, oh my god, I'm

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Speaker 4: at the police office. I found what I need. And

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Speaker 4: the cop says on the radio, I got him. You

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Speaker 4: gets a portrayal of all portrayals, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just it's horrible, horrible, but it's horrible.

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Speaker 2: And it's the state. It is the state in which

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Speaker 2: we are forced to live. And that's why people are

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Speaker 2: leaving this state. And that's why we we need we

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Speaker 2: need competition. We need a two party system in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 4: Simplest a dollar out of every hour. If not well,

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Speaker 4: come out of my check to go to go to

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Speaker 4: the state. You know, a dollar. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: even want to talk about it, but thank you.

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Speaker 2: Dead, thank David, Thank you much, Andrew and Peevety Andrew

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Speaker 2: you next time nights. I'm going to get you in

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Speaker 2: under the wire. Go right ahead, Andrew, h R.

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Speaker 7: Dan Ray, thanks so much, first time caller. Listen to

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Speaker 7: you all the time. I agree with everything you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Got another first time caller here, go ahead, Andrew.

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Speaker 7: I gotta tell you, I really it confounds me that

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Speaker 7: we have, you know, our Beacon Hill, you know, representative senators, everybody,

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Speaker 7: they forget who they are working for. The voters have

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Speaker 7: spoken loud and clear, and it's about time that everybody

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Speaker 7: who works if Beacon Hill listens to every caller and

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Speaker 7: listens to you when they when when they hear us

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Speaker 7: saying it's time to open the books. We need accountability,

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Speaker 7: and that's exactly what the state auditor is there for

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Speaker 7: and a law was passed. The voters have spoken.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that should be the slogan. Maybe that should be

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Speaker 2: the slogan in this election. Here open the books.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, open the books.

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Speaker 2: And if and the people who have not been willing

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Speaker 2: to open the books, they gotta.

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Speaker 7: Go absolutely after This is a polarizing issue and I

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Speaker 7: think the voters feel very slighted right now. And if

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Speaker 7: I if I held office on Beacon Hill, I'd be

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Speaker 7: I'd be listening to my constituency and I'd be very

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Speaker 7: paying very close attention. And I want the Attorney General

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Speaker 7: to listen very carefully. You have a responsibility to the

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Speaker 7: people of the Commonwealth Massachusetts to get those books opened

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Speaker 7: and support the state order.

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Speaker 2: No excuses, Well said Andrew. You couldn't have You couldn't

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Speaker 2: have said it better your first time caller. I want

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Speaker 2: you as a regular caller, Okay, I'm telling.

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Speaker 7: You, well, I we'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew. We're gonna get people activated between now and November.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, have a great night. When we come back.

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