1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: As part of our NonStop coverage of the NFL, Your 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks head 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Combgrin. Brought to you 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: by Toyota of Kirkland. The championship team at Toyota of 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Kirkland does all the little things that exceed your expectations 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: and that's what makes Toyota of Kirkland so special. And 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: by R and R Foundation specialist serving Western Washington for 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: over twenty years now from the five twenty Bar and 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Grail in Bellevue, Mike Holmgren went SOFTI and Dick No. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Softy today is winging his way to Mike Holmgren's old 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: stomping grounds the state of Wisconsin. 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh boy, he's gonna have He's gonna have a great 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: time at I will say this, aside from the game. 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 3: We used to play a preseason game there every year 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: at Camp Randle at Camp Randall. Yeah, and to see 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: that campus and at the stadium and how they did 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: things there. They're passionate about football and not only Wisconsin 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: but Packers and so he'd fill it and it was great. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: It was a great atmosphere. Barry Alvarez, who was the 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 3: head coach there, a very successful head coach later at 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: AD we became good friends and they're gonna have a 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: good time. Now it might be a little chilly. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's supposed to be thirty five and flouries. 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean that's some Wisconsin November. 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: Well, no, you get in there and it starts to 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 3: I've told you before, I was the coldest guy on 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: the field when I coached there, the coldest. Oh gee, 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: you know. 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: We played that Paul Pierce cut and you listen to that. 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: What do you think Kathy would say about Paul Pierce's 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: marital advice that the best way to find out if 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: a woman loves you is to cheat on her. 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: You know, I don't even want to think about it 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: because she really works very hard to keep her language 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: under control. She does, and it would ruin her image. 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: That would be she just got you know. 37 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, hey, you know, it's a good time 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: to be a Seattle sports fan right now. And it 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: is a good time. Dogs are rolling, the Seahawks are 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: roling you. Jackson Sounders are in the playoffs. Everything's going 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: pretty good right now. And you know, one of the 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: main reasons. The catalyst you know, yes, the defense is great, 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: but the offensive catalyst behind what's going on the Seahawks 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: is is Sam Darnold. And he is getting a lot 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: of national love, a lot of national love. And I 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: guess my question to you on Sam is you know 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: where where has he elevated himself in the in the 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: in the pantheon of quarterbacks in this league. I mean, 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: are we are we now starting to see him as 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: one of the elite guys in the NFL? Or do 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: you you still need to see more before he gets 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: to that point? 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: No? 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: I think you know, when I think people make uh 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: in all fairness, I think instead of looking at what 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: he did his first four years as a player, you 57 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: know what he did last year and now what he's 58 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: doing right now, That's who he is. That's who he is. 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: And unless he falls completely the part of the team 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: falls apart, he is going to He's going to take 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: this team, Dick. I think he's going to take this 62 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: team very, very far this year. And he's playing as 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: good as anybody in the league. And you watch him 64 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: play just from a quarterback the detail standpoint, his footwork, 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: his eyes and how he's moving people around, is delivery 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: of the ball on time, his accuracy, and I think 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: as I watch him talk to the players and different things, 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: his leadership, he's the real deal. And it's taken a while, 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: but okay, that's behind him now. And he's not that old, right, 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: twenty years old. 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: And there's two obviously components that go into his improvement. 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: One is the age, like you mentioned, he's not twenty 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: one anymore like he was with the Jets. And then 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: the second thing is just to go into a situation 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: like he had last year in Minnesota and this year. 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: So how much of each one of those buckets do 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: you give credit for his ascension to being one of 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: the top whatever you want to say, five six to 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: seven eight quarterbacks. 80 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: In the league. 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: I think you got to give a lot of credit 82 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: to the Seahawks coaching staff, you know, and combining. I 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: always thought it was you have a player who's talented, 84 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: and then he goes with the right coach or the 85 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: right system or surrounded by some players, it has more 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: of a chance to work. You get really talented guys 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: physically talented that go into a tough situation, they get 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: banged around, some bad stuff happens all of a sudden, 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: there's negativity that comes in that changes a young guy. 90 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: It changes and I think he went through that early 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: in his career. But now I think he's in the 92 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: right spot. I think the world of Mike McDonald. He's 93 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: doing a great job. He's a defensive guy, and I 94 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: think he stays kind of lets Clint Kubiak and the 95 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: offensive guys do their thing. Of course, he's the head coach, 96 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: so he's going to make final decisions, but he's kind 97 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: of letting them do it, and they're doing a good 98 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: job of it. 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: You know, Safti and I, as you know very well, 100 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: have really silly topics that we talk about sometimes, and 101 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: we went silly. He's in on this topic surrounding Sam Donald, 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: and I think Jackson knows exactly where I'm going here. 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how we got on this conversation, but 104 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: we started talking about how many draft first round draft 105 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: picks would it take for you to be willing to 106 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: trade Sam Donald away? 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: Right? 108 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: And we got up to we we got up to 109 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: the conversation of would you if you were offered? Now, 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: you can't do this in the NFL because two's max, 111 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: but if you could, would you trade. Would you trade 112 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: Sam Donald away for four first round draft picks? And 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: he's asking people, and I want to ask you that 114 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: question if you were the if you were the general manager, 115 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: you're John Schneider right now, and somebody called you up 116 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: and it was legal to do. They said, listen, coach, 117 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna trade your first in twenty six, twenty seven, 118 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: twenty eight, and twenty nine for Sam Donald right now? 119 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: Would you do it? 120 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: I think I probably would. You know, as much as 121 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: I like Sam Donald, you take the draft picks? I 122 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: mean yeah, because what are you doing. You're you're setting 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: your team up for now. You have to make the 124 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: right picks. You have to do it because not every 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: first round pick you know, goes lights out, but that 126 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: would be unheard of it. I mean, you know, no 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: one's going to do you know you and so I 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: should have been there to stop that conversation. 129 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: You should have been well and that's n see. I'm 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: on your side. Softie's you know Softie? Yeah, thanks. 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: He always hits me with those things when he's here. 132 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: You know, of course, what if this happened? 133 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 4: You know, I we love it? Well, how much on 134 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 4: let's go to Monday night? 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: How much of what you saw from the Seahawks passing 136 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: game was Sam and how much of it was just 137 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: that dreadful Commander's d that's looking really old all of 138 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: a sudden after being really good last year. 139 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: I think that's a that's a good question and a 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: good point because this season, as I've watched, I want 141 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: to give credit to Sam and what's happening on offense, right, 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: but I have seen some very very poor defensive play 143 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: against them, you know, secondary people just not even close, 144 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: you know, just people wide open or no pass rush 145 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: or whatever it is they've played against the Washington Washington 146 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: looked really bad to me in that game. So but 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: having said that, you still got to get back there, 148 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: throw the ball, run your routes. Another puzzling thing to 149 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: me is why teams don't try and stop Jigma more. 150 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah he again, he's opened all the time. 151 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: Third and seventeen and they got it to Hijiga. 152 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, he's opened all the time. 153 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: Is that him? 154 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: I mean, is he just that good or well there's 155 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: got to be a way to bracket. 156 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: Him or no? No, no, you know, I you know, 157 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: I've had the privilege of being around great receivers and 158 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: if teams really want to stop that guy or at 159 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: least calm him down. They they do it, They try 160 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: real hard to do it. Now defensive coaches say, well, yeah, 161 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: but then we get we're giving up this, so we 162 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: can't do that. 163 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Right. 164 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: Well, then that guy kills you. Yeah, you know, I've 165 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: seen it, and that's what's happening now. I think part 166 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: of it is they're they're going against, don't I don't 167 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: like that some of the defenses they're going against. That's 168 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: the first thing. And then he is really a good player, 169 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: and so he has stepped up to the role of 170 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: being thene one guy. And shoot, he's over one hundred 171 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: yards every game, nine eight nine catches every game, you know, 172 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: and he's not a big strong he's not DK Metcalf 173 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: one of those guys. But then you got to give 174 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: credit also clinking Kubiak in the scheme. They figured out 175 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: some stuff to get him the ball. All they certainly did. 176 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: And then you know, obviously the from a commander's point 177 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: coming out of that game was the decision by Dan 178 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: Quinn to leave Jayden Daniels into the game in the 179 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. And I can just know from from where 180 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: I was watching the game. I was, you know, doing 181 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: some I was doing some stuff and the game was 182 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: out of reach, right, so I was still paying attention 183 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: to but I wasn't like watching it, watching it like 184 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: I was the first half of the game, and I 185 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: walked into the room and literally as Jaden was taking 186 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: the snap. 187 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: I was there at my folks house, and I go, 188 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: why is he still in? 189 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 190 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: And five seconds, five seconds later, his elbow points the 191 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: wrong way. 192 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 193 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: So how much criticism should a old friend Dan take 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 4: for that? 195 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: Uh? 196 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: I think you know he's he's regretting it right now. 197 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: Obviously I made that decision a couple of times with quarterbacks. 198 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: So we did with Joe Montana in a game, took 199 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: him out of the game because Denver was teeing off 200 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: on him and trying to really rack him around, and 201 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: so take him out. Now that was a preseason game. 202 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: But then I did it with Asslebeck when we're playing 203 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: the Steelers one year back there. 204 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, career getting skunked. 205 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: We're getting skunked, and we couldn't we couldn't protect, we couldn't, 206 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: didn't do anything. It was a high scoring game, but 207 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: I took him out and he didn't like it. You know, 208 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: he came over. You know what I said, No, just 209 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm doing this for you. We'll save you for another day. Okay, 210 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: they don't like it when you do that. 211 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: But Sames Harrison, that could kill you. 212 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah and so and you'd like to kill you. Yeah, 213 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: but no, I thought it's a tough decision. But if 214 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: he had to do it all over again, he'd do it. 215 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: Think him out. 216 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think I think you're exactly right. Well, 217 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: the Seahawks made a made a trade. I mean, I 218 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: don't know if it was too much of a surprise 219 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: that they did something. I mean, I know there's a 220 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: lot of talk about potentially the corner spot with three Quel, 221 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: and they decided to keep him. They made a trade 222 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: at the wide receiver position. How much do you think 223 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: the trade was due to maybe uncertain me with Cooper 224 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Cup or how much was it just the fact that, hey, 225 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: they liked this guy. There was compensation out there that 226 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: they felt willing to give up. 227 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: I think there's compensation out there, and I think they 228 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: they're they see something in making that receiver group a 229 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: little deeper, you know, because they have had some injuries, 230 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: and when you have a chance to do that and 231 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: feel the numbers right, you do it? 232 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 4: So what do you think I'm in rashichha heat. 233 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much you've you know, 234 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: you've gone and talked to and watched Rashid Shaheid play. 235 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: But this is a guy that's I mean, he's a 236 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: four three forty guy. He's a guy that'll stretch the field. 237 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: And and how do you think, how would you use 238 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: a guy like that? Knowing what you have in Cooper 239 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: Cup inside, Jackson Smith and Jigbaw outside, how would you 240 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: use a guy like Rashid Shaheed coming in? That is 241 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: just you know, he's one of the fastest receivers in football. 242 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's That's that's why they got him because 243 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: he can. They got four receivers. And listen, Horton is 244 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: playing very well. I liked what he's doing and so 245 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: they have to like it too. So but they bring 246 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: in the fourth receiver if they're going four wides, you know, 247 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: now he gives a good fourth, There's no question about it. Also, 248 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: if someone gets nicked up or he's a player or something, 249 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: you got another receiver to stick in the game. If 250 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: you're going with a three receiver set. So no, I 251 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: think it was a good It was a good pick. 252 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: What this trade deadline for a lot of teams, though, 253 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: it's it seems to me like the Jets as an example. Yeah, 254 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: they're not playing for this year's right. 255 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: I loved what they did. To be honest with you, Yeah, 256 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: I loved what they did. They're not going anywhere this year. 257 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: Why don't you get rid of your high priced guys. 258 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: You're not a Super Bowl contender a minimum for two years, 259 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: so why even have these guys? 260 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 3: But people, you can be critical of that. People taking 261 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: a dive tanking the season. You get the high draft picks. 262 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: That's that's a story, and it will come up, believe me, 263 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 3: before the season is over on some of these games. 264 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna talk about some of those, and we're 265 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: gonna talk about what your old friend Jerry Jones did 266 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: and down the stretch of this hour as well. But 267 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: let's get back to the receiver situation. When Cup comes, 268 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: Let's say Cup's healthy. Now, I don't know if he's 269 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: going to play this week. He's you know, he's definitely 270 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: not hundred percent. But when he is one hundred percent, 271 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: if he gets to one hundred percent this year, what 272 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: should be his role going forward? Now that you have 273 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: three other guys that you know can play versus just 274 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: two other guys that you know can play. 275 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, I think teams now, I would 276 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: assume that you're gonna see more directed towards Jigma. You're 277 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: gonna see that, so that will open up some areas 278 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 3: for the other receivers. You take a guy like Cup 279 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: who's very smart, knows how to play the game, and 280 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: is dependable as a quarterback. You can trust him. You 281 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: know he's gonna be there. He makes the plays and 282 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: he also blocks well, you know, so I see the 283 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: other guys and the tight ends, throw them in there. 284 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: The other guys are are part of this thing now, 285 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: and I like what they're doing and spreading the ball around. 286 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: That's when you see that offense really function properly. 287 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: And what's impressive to me is the way the offense 288 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: is a functioning right off the bat. I mean it 289 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: seems like Seahawks fans really for much of the Pete 290 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: Carroll era wasn't fortunately it wasn't this way under you, 291 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: but under Pete Carroll and then last year it just 292 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: seems like this offense is just stuck in the mud 293 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: until the third and the fourth quartern' all, how many 294 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: times we've gone into the locker. 295 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 4: Room and it's ten to seven and seven to six. 296 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, they're scoring touchdowns on the 297 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 2: first drive of the game this year, many many times. 298 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: What do you think the reasoning for that isn't what 299 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: do you see him from from koobiak that's impressing you? 300 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: And the reason he can score right away in these games? 301 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: Well, I think coming into this season, you know, Clinton 302 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: was new, uh, Donald was new. They had some we thought, okay, 303 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: it's it's gonna this is gonna work. We like it, 304 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: but we don't. We haven't seen it yet. Now as 305 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: the season has gone along, I just see them opening 306 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: it up more, you know. For for the verbiage that 307 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: you're all the time, we're gonna run the ball, we're 308 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: gonna slimb it down, we're gonna do all this stuff. Okay, 309 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: And you know we've talked, we've joked about it on 310 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: the show before. Everyone wants to do that. But every 311 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: once in a while, it's okay on first time to 312 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: do playoffs and pass and throw it. It's okay, you know, 313 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: and you and they've they're just already if you watch him, 314 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: they're starting to do that more now. And I think 315 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: it helps the offense, and not only helps the offense, 316 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: it helps the running game. Yep, you know so. 317 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: And you've got a situation in McDonald now where he 318 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: has tied George Seaford, the old guy that you worked with, 319 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: and Sean McVay as the only two coaches ever to 320 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: win eleven of their first twelve road games eleven and one. 321 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so in his NFL career. 322 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you got any thoughts behind why that's working, 323 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: because we're not seeing it in this stadium at least yet, 324 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: but we have certainly seen it on the ras. 325 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: It just happenstance or is it? Is it something there? 326 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's uh, it's really something. It's difficult. 327 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: I always thought it was more difficult to win on 328 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: the road than it is at home, you know. I like, 329 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: I didn't like to travel if we can stay home 330 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: and play. I liked our crowd, you know, at home, 331 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: and but their record on the road, it's something I 332 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: don't I don't have a real good answer for you 333 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: than the fact that obviously they have they have a 334 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: feeling that there. Now, when you put together a string 335 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: like this, they start feeling really good about how they prepare, 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: how they do things, the meals they eat, when they 337 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: go to bed, all these things. It's and we don't 338 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: change it. Let's just keep going. And I think that's 339 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: with the new coach. I think that Mike has that 340 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: kind of discipline anyway, and. 341 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: The confidence they get when they walk on that road, 342 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: feel like we always win on the road. 343 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: Sure, it doesn't matter who we're playing, bring it on, 344 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: win on the road. 345 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: The one Achilles heel thus far for this football team 346 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: has still been the running game and just getting a 347 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: consistent running game going. In one stat that jumped out 348 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: to me that I was surprised to see. You know, 349 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: ken Walker had forty six catches last year in twelve games. 350 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: He only has ten in eight games this year. So 351 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean that's obviously. I mean, can't you help the 352 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: running game by maybe getting ken Walker involved in other ways, 353 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: because that's that's one thing that we have seen in 354 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: the past with ken we haven't seen this season. 355 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you yes to answer your question, But 356 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: I would say, then what are you taking away from 357 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: what they're doing good to do that Oh, I see, 358 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it seems to me 359 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: you might know the stats on this more than I would. 360 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: But the backs are kind of splitting time right now. 361 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: Walker's not in there all the time. 362 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: Oh, and it's much closer than it has been the past, 363 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: because it's been more seventy five twenty five years, but 364 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: this year's like sixty forty. 365 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's one thing. The second thing is and 366 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: I think they've got a pretty good group there, but 367 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: your offensive line is one area. That's one area where 368 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: I thought they might trade and get somebody in there. 369 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: You know. I think certain positions on the offensive line 370 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: are pretty steady and independable, and then there are others 371 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: that are really they're still working. 372 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: Do you see three steady or do you see four steady? 373 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: Now on that offensive line? 374 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: Which one? 375 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: Do you see three steady positions on the liner? Do 376 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: you see four steady positions? Because there's a debate about 377 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: right tackle, yeah, and there's certainly a debate about right guard. 378 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and really I think center to a certain extent too. 379 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I think so maybe you only 380 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: see two? 381 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see, I see three, you know, And I 382 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: don't worry too much about the right tackle, but there 383 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: is you know, that's that's an area that sometimes those 384 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: guys aren't the flash and dash guys, the stats guys 385 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: catching them as many passes and scoring touchdowns and everything, 386 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: but you gotta have those guys to be really to 387 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: match out what you want to do on offense. 388 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: A lot going on in the trade deadline. We'll go 389 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: away from the Seahawks and talk about what else is 390 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: going on in the NFL, including coach Holmgren's old friend 391 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. 392 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: What the heck is this guy doing? We'll talk about 393 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: it next. 394 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: Mike Homberg continues here until five o'clock on ninety three 395 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: point three kJ FM from the R. 396 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: And R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softy 397 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: and Dick on your for the Huskies, Kraken and the 398 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R. 399 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: FL ah second number two Mike Congran is here from 400 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: the five twenty deep Bar and Grill and coach. Lots 401 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: and lots and lots going on here as we're in 402 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: the heat of the NFL season and the Marquee match 403 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: up this last Sunday Bills and Chiefs, and I'm wondering 404 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 2: does it mean anything at all that the Bills were 405 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: able to beat Andy Reid and the Chiefs because it 406 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: hasn't in the past, because the Bills seemingly always beat 407 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: the Chiefs in the middle of the season and then 408 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: they meet again in the AFC Championship game or a 409 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: divisional rown, and you know who wins those games. 410 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that they they're own four h Allen 411 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: versus Mahomes in the playoffs. Yeah, and then they're five 412 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: and zero or something during the regular season. But I 413 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 3: think some of that has to do with where you 414 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: play the playoff game. 415 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 416 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: And Dick, you know, maybe more than any other year, 417 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: I thought about this and looked at it. Injuries. Injuries 418 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: play such an important role in how your team eventually 419 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: plays and who gets hurt. You know. We've talked about 420 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers earlier. What they've done is really 421 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: pretty good because they've been merely banged up and they're 422 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: still winning close games things like that. Washington, Now if 423 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: they lose their quarterback, it's pretty much done, you know, 424 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: And you could point to a lot of people like. 425 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 4: That, and on the flip side, like a team like Baltimore. 426 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Baltimore was one in five and they 427 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: were still the Vegas favorites to win their division at 428 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: one in five. 429 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, because Vegas. 430 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Knew, well, Lamar's coming back, all their defensive players are 431 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: coming back. Yeah, they're going to rattle off some wins. 432 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: And they've rattled off too in a row. And I 433 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: think they'd probably get their third this week against Minnesota. 434 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a team to reckon with, even though 435 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: they're three and five. 436 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you look at the division they're in. You 437 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 3: know Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, you know Cleveland. Okay, then you look 438 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: in our division you get the Rams Arizona. We'll see 439 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: what happens this week. They won a big game last week, 440 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: but we'll see what happens. They didn't look very good 441 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: to me in the first game, but it's a pretty 442 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: good division. But then it's close to in the NFC 443 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: North Minnesota. You thought Green Bay was just gonna smoke everybody. 444 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: They're having some issues, you know, so, but that's what 445 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: makes it fun. That's what makes the NFL fun for 446 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: the season. 447 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: I don't remember as much parody when you were coaching 448 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 2: as there is now. There were the halves, there were 449 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: the have nots, there was you know, there was some middle, 450 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: middle grounds. 451 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: But I counted fourteen. 452 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: I just went through the standings and I said, all right, 453 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: how many of these teams in the league. Wouldn't I 454 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: be shocked if they ended up in the super Bowl. 455 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: Obviously there's favorites and not favorites. But I counted fourteen 456 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: teams right now, right that. I that if any one 457 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: of those fourteen made the Super Bowl, I'd be like, 458 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: I could see that, sure, you know, even teams like 459 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: the Patriots, teams like that. I mean, I could see 460 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: that happening. Why do you think there's so much parody 461 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: now when I don't think we've seen that very much. 462 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: No, I think the league is different now. It really is. 463 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: And in New England you brought up to the Patriots. Yea, 464 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: their young quarterback is doing he's three ordeal and then not. 465 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: You can't say that about every young quarterback that comes 466 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 3: in into the league, right you know. But no, I 467 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: was looking at the Seahawks schedule and I never did 468 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: this when I was coaching. I can do it now, yeah, 469 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: you know, and I lost lost, Yeah I did. I 470 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 3: think you taught me that, see all the time. That 471 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: so I'm looking at I'm saying they got ten wins 472 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: in their pocket. They got ten wins in their pocket. Yes, 473 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 3: Now you got the forty nine ers two games against 474 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: the Rams Indianapolis. That's four other games. So if they 475 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: split it, they're twelve, you know, I mean, you know 476 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 3: they should be. If knock on wood, they stay healthy, 477 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: excuse me, knock on wood, they stay healthy, then they 478 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: should they should be right in there. 479 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: Well, the trade deadline was fascinating. 480 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: We talked about, you know, we talked a little bit 481 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: of the Jets and what they did, and a little 482 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: about what the Seahawks did. But you know, there were 483 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: twenty two deadline trades in season or deadline trades, not 484 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: on deadline day, but twenty two trades leading up to 485 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: the trade deadline. That is an all time NFL record. Sure, 486 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: you know we didn't used to see tides like that. 487 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: Why do you think everybody's making deals now? And they 488 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: weren't calling you? Your phone wasn't ringing off the hook 489 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: twenty years ago when you were GM. 490 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: No, the Seahawks, and I wasn't phoning them doing a 491 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: lot of phone from my end either. No, I don't 492 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: know it's I don't know if it's because of salaries 493 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: and they're trying to get out from underneath some money 494 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: things they're looking at. You know, we talked about it earlier. 495 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: You'd get a team that all of a sudden they're 496 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: sending trading away good players for draft choices. Okay, so 497 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: you know what they're doing there this season, they're kind 498 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: of writing it off, yes, and now they're gonna go 499 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: and build. Now, the guys make the mistakes in the draft. 500 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: You're not guaranteed anything. If you get pick up two 501 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: number one picks, you know, I mean, it should help you, 502 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: but you're not guaranteed anything. And so I just think, 503 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I it is different. And when I 504 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: think of how much fun I had doing it and 505 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: how blessed I was to be around Rond Wolf and 506 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: Ted Thompson and those guys that really knew what they 507 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: were doing personnel wise, you know, it's a different It's 508 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 3: a little different now, that's all it is. 509 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: But usually we know if you're a buyer a seller, 510 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: like you look at the Jets, they're definitely a seller. 511 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: You look at the Colts, they're definitely a buyer. What 512 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: are the Cowboys because Jerry Jones just traded away Micah 513 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: Parsons for two first round draft picks, and then he 514 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: gave one of the draft picks and a second round 515 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: pick away for Quinn Williams. 516 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: Like, what's he trying to do? 517 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Jerry is an interesting guy and 518 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: I consider him a friend. We were very we did 519 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: things together. But he also he runs the Cowboys. Okay, 520 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: he runs the Cowboys, and he Michaeh Parsons. No one 521 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: thought that was a particularly good thing. I don't think. 522 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 4: I didn't mind it. I really didn't mind it. 523 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: Well, he yeah, for two first round picks, but then 524 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: like you said, then he takes that. Okay, So it's 525 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 3: like this one something he felt, he felt. I think 526 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: that he had to do something after that. He couldn't 527 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: wait for the next year's draft, or you couldn't wait. 528 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: We got to do something now. And if he believes 529 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: his team and a year and talk, he believes that 530 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: team is a good football team. Now they're not. They're 531 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: three and five, they're not looking like they're particularly on defense. 532 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: They're not looking like a good football team. So if 533 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: this young man, I don't know much about him, but 534 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: they say, he's pretty good. He comes in and helps him, 535 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: but they still have some areas that have to they 536 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: have to fix. So it's some rises me. But he 537 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: does that. I remember Bill Bartell's telling me on the 538 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: field when when we played them when he was a 539 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 3: coach at Dallas and they and they had that Riot 540 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: wide receiver. You know, I didn't like that much. But 541 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: he went to the Hall of Fame. Michael No, not 542 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: Michael Irving. Uh you know, well, what was he? Here's one. 543 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: He's the one that signed the ball. 544 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: Bryant. 545 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 3: No, he signed the ball in the end. Thank you, Jackson, 546 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I'm older forgive me. So it 547 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: was it was Terrell Lewins. And Bill goes, because he 548 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: asked me about it at the combine, we got a 549 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 3: chance to get Terrell Owens. I said, oh boy, maybe 550 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: you can handle him. You know, good luck with that. 551 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: If anyone couldn't, you can. And so he goes, I 552 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: don't want to do it. We come out for the 553 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: preseason game, there's Terrell Owens. Barcells comes up to me 554 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: and goes, there's Terrell waants. He told me not to 555 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: do it, and I should have listened to you. He goes, 556 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: but he goes. You know, Jerry Jones wants to dance 557 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: with the prettiest girl in the room. 558 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 559 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: Well, he also admitted on on you know he does 560 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: a radio show every week as the owner of the Colbys, 561 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: the owner in GM. He does a radio show every 562 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: week in Dallas, and he admitted, he said, I don't 563 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: have I don't know how much time I got left. 564 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: I got to make sure these guys are good. 565 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: But I'm like, is that the way you should be 566 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: running an organization based upon your mortality? 567 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 568 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: I mean, or should you should? 569 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 2: You'd be running an organization based upon what's best for 570 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: the organization. 571 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. But as long as they are raking in the dough, 572 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: and they are, they do. I think that was granted. 573 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: I think they I read where that's the number one franchise. 574 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 575 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: Sports Frans master his value. Uh, then he's some of 576 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: that hurt that he's not making the playoffs gets kind 577 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: of pushed aside a little bit because he's making zillions 578 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: of dollars. You know, that's right, because he always That's 579 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: the other thing. I'd be watching him in meetings. He 580 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: wouldn't be writing stuff down that we were talking about 581 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: football you'd be dollar signs and numbers. You know, that's 582 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: what he did. 583 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: Coach, it's a pleasure. We're gonna let you go and 584 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: brave the weather. Sure you're okay, we can handle it. 585 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: I know you can't, got it, Jackson, Thank you. 586 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: Good stuff. We'll talk to you next week, all right, 587 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 4: but take care.